[05:56] <Xethron> Good morning guys
[05:56] <Xethron> hello superfly
[06:33] <Kilos> morning nlsthzn  and others
[06:42] <Xethron> Morning Kilos
[06:42] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[06:42] <Xethron> Just installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[06:43] <Xethron> So I'm back on Ubuntu......
[06:43] <Kilos> great news
[06:43] <Xethron> I hope so, will try it out, and if I don't like it, I'll see
[06:44] <Kilos> dont you like unity?
[06:44] <Xethron> will see
[06:44] <Kilos> there are some things to do to on it
[06:45] <Kilos> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04
[06:47] <Trixar_za> #1 Pray to your puny gods
[06:47] <Kilos> haha hi Trixar_za what are you on about
[06:48] <Trixar_za> Well, that's the first thing you should do after installing Ubuntu 14.04
[06:48] <Trixar_za> Also I always wanted to say that
[06:48] <Kilos> no man it works lekker
[06:48] <Kilos> ah now the truth comes out
[07:17] <Xethron> ihaha
[07:17] <Xethron> I forgot to backup my fstab and mysql databases :'(
[07:17]  * Xethron hits head against the wall
[07:25] <nlsthzn> morning all
[07:28] <Xethron> morning nlsthzn
[07:28] <nlsthzn> *yawn* :p
[07:29]  * Xethron gets his first cup of coffee! :D
[07:29] <Xethron> This should help heat me up
[07:29] <Xethron> Damn its cold :(
[07:29] <nlsthzn> ah yes winter :p
[07:29] <Kilos> yeah winter gonna be bad this years methinks
[07:29]  * nlsthzn doesn't have that problem
[07:29] <Xethron> Winter is coming
[07:30] <Xethron> nlsthzn: where you from?
[07:30] <Kilos> we hitting 8°c at night already
[07:30] <nlsthzn> brrr
[07:30] <nlsthzn> I am from SA, but not there now ;)
[07:30] <Xethron> ah
[07:30] <Kilos> haha neil is in camel land
[07:31] <Xethron> I was thinking maybe you're from the top parts of SA, like Musina... Its like a cold summer there in Winter.
[07:31] <nlsthzn> yes the north is good
[07:31] <nlsthzn> will be there in June so not so bad... then down to Durbs :)
[07:31] <Xethron> But the summer is.......... Excrutiating* heat
[07:32] <Xethron> *I have no idea how to spell that word
[07:32] <nlsthzn> not so bad :p
[07:33] <Xethron> lol
[07:33] <Kilos> Maaz, spell excrusiating
[07:33] <Maaz> Kilos: Suggestions: Excruciating or excruciating
[07:33] <Xethron> ah
[07:33] <Xethron> Nice
[07:34] <Xethron> My bot also had a spell checker
[07:34] <Kilos> cleevr bot
[07:34] <nlsthzn> I see Thursday will be the hottest this week, 42 degC
[07:34] <Xethron> Where?
[07:34]  * Xethron gets his plane tickets ready
[07:34] <nlsthzn> uae
[07:34] <Xethron> Ok, I'm going there right now!
[07:34] <Kilos> nlsthzn, you on windows?
[07:34] <nlsthzn> nope
[07:35] <nlsthzn> Linux sputnix 3.13.0-24-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:11:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:35] <Xethron> Kilos: I believe the channel name: #ubuntu-za, would mean he is not
[07:35] <Kilos> make a compose key then hit o twice for the °
[07:35] <nlsthzn> was on windows three days ago ;)
[07:35]  * nlsthzn is to lazy
[07:35] <Xethron> Shame! Why? What happened?
[07:35] <Kilos> haha Xethron you were here often on windows
[07:36] <Xethron> Nope
[07:36] <Kilos> and he works on win machines at work
[07:36] <Xethron> Well, I think I was here once on my GF's PC coz mine was f**ked
[07:36] <nlsthzn> if Windows didn't expect me to phone to activate it again I would still be on it... windows 7 is solid
[07:36] <Xethron> Haven't used Windows since 2010 :)
[07:37] <Kilos> ah
[07:37] <nlsthzn> pity DRM 
[07:37] <Xethron> Actually, thats a lie, I used it for studies at University :(
[07:38] <Xethron> nlsthzn: Yeah, I have no problem with Windows 7 being a gamer PC... But working on it......
[07:38] <Kilos> im sure we chatted when you were on a win machine but np
[07:38] <Kilos> hi Golynx 
[07:38] <nlsthzn> it does what you need from as OS..
[07:38] <Golynx> hi Kilos
[07:38] <Xethron> If I can't hit a shortcut key to open a terminal, that is pretty decent...
[07:38] <Kilos> everyone starts the journey to freedom from windows
[07:39] <Xethron> nlsthzn: It doesn't have a decent command line, which is what I NEED from an OS
[07:39] <Golynx> o/ nlsthzn & Xethron
[07:39] <Xethron> hello Golynx
[07:39] <nlsthzn> use what works for you
[07:39] <nlsthzn> hi Golynx 
[07:39] <Xethron> true
[07:40] <Xethron> Kilos, nlsthzn: Whats these Online Accounts things in Ubuntu?
[07:40] <Kilos> wow my old bug from 12.04 has carried over to 14.04
[07:40] <nlsthzn> set up twitter, IM etc.
[07:40] <Kilos> i think its twitter facebook etc 
[07:41] <nlsthzn> also photo sharing to the cloud and all such things
[07:41] <Kilos> and google
[07:41] <Kilos> must be a shortcut to your accounts
[07:41] <Xethron> But once setup, what can I do on Twitter via Ubuntu that I can't do normally?
[07:41] <Kilos> nothing
[07:41] <nlsthzn> if you have a twitter client it will be automatically set up in the app, also the scopes can show tweets and you can search for them in dash etc
[07:42] <Kilos> they trying to make it like smarphones and tablets where they all show without have to go there via browser
[07:42] <Xethron> Oh, that sounds interesting...
[07:44] <Kilos> actually i should look at the twitter one because twitter stopped pidgin working there
[07:44] <Kilos> the swines
[07:45] <Golynx> that must be so that ubuntu when ubuntu is plugged into a pc from the ubuntu phone, it will work on both
[07:45] <Kilos> ?
[07:46] <Golynx> nevermind :-/
[07:49] <nlsthzn> :)
[08:15] <Kilos> ai! cant find a twitter app. choqok will install lots of kde stuff here
[08:16] <Xethron> I see Ubuntu One has been discontinued?
[08:31] <Kilos> yeah
[08:42] <Golynx> Kilos did you try this game yet http://jarrydx86.byethost22.com/ubuza/index.php
[08:42] <Kilos> lemme see
[08:43] <Golynx> use the arrow keys to move the orange ubuntu snake
[08:43] <Kilos> ok
[08:44] <Kilos> what must it do?
[08:44] <Kilos> ai! these games using keys
[08:45] <Golynx> click the help button on lower right
[08:45] <Kilos> haha
[08:46] <Golynx> lol
[08:47] <Kilos> im too slow it gets away from me
[08:47] <Kilos> hehe
[08:51] <Golynx> :) , i made it for fun 2 months ago . 
[08:51] <Kilos> lol
[08:52] <Kilos> have you been ubuntuized so long already
[08:54] <Golynx> lol, not really
[08:59] <Golynx> ubuntu isn't an all in one OS yet, i still need windows for 50% of my workings. But with time ubuntu will get there
[08:59] <Kilos> what cant you do on buntu
[09:00] <Kilos> there are web designers that dont touch windows im sure
[09:01] <Golynx> sure with wine i can use windows stuff, but lack of ram i have to use windows seperatly. 
[09:01] <Kilos> ai! the ram issue
[09:02] <Golynx> sure when you design for web you can get away with using one OS
[09:02] <Golynx> but for me its mostly the mobile scene of things that are mostly supported for windows at the moment
[09:03] <Kilos> oh not android
[09:04] <Golynx> android, blackberry, symbian, j2me, tizen, ios etc.
[09:04] <Kilos> eish
[09:05] <Golynx> its much easier to get those dev environments setup in windows atm
[09:06] <Xethron> Meh, I haven't used Windows in years
[09:06] <Golynx> linux have alot of twists and turns before getting them to work 
[09:06] <Xethron> Oh hell no. I had to Install GIT the other day on Windows
[09:07] <Xethron> I spent an entire day and I still couldn't get it to work
[09:07] <Xethron> And don't get me started on C libraries
[09:08] <Xethron> Golynx: The only thing I do lately on Windows is test on IE
[09:08] <Golynx> Xethron: i dont use that, the github gui works nice on windows
[09:08] <Xethron> And for that I have a VM
[09:08] <Golynx> i never compiled a single C program before lol
[09:08] <Xethron> lol
[09:08] <Xethron> Golynx: what do you do?
[09:10] <Xethron> Oh, and you should cache your game images
[09:10] <Xethron> It tries to re-download them every time
[09:10] <Golynx> web dev/ web design/ graphic design, smartphone app dev. I mostly stick to javascript/css/html plus python, java and php for server side
[09:11] <Xethron> ah
[09:11] <Golynx> hehe i just made that game for fun really , was  going to delete it afterwards
[09:12] <Xethron> Well, if you do some serious Graphic designing, and can't live without your Adobe products, I'd recommend a Mac, otherwise, JS/CSS/HTML/PHP/Java/Python is really easier on Linux
[09:12] <Kilos> can you make it usable from pc?
[09:13] <Kilos> like download the game not play it there
[09:13] <Xethron> I mostly just use GIMP for my graphics needs, as I usually have a graphics designer to do all the designing, and I just do some minor editing
[09:14] <Kilos> and make the ok button work from enter key
[09:14] <Xethron> Cool, you converted 25 windows users to Ubuntu !
[09:15] <Golynx> Kilos i can zip it for you if you want it
[09:15] <Xethron> :D
[09:15] <Kilos> weird using keys then need mouse to say ok
[09:15] <Xethron> Golynx: make an Ubuntu Webapp :P
[09:15] <Kilos> yes please Golynx 
[09:15] <Xethron> haa
[09:15] <Kilos> might help me get used to using arrow keys
[09:15] <Xethron> haha*
[09:15] <Golynx> Xethron , yeah i use gimp too, will have to wait till i have enough cash to buy a mac though
[09:16] <Xethron> Golynx: well, if you use GIMP, then what do you need Windows for?
[09:16] <Kilos> eish macs are too expensive man
[09:16] <Golynx> lol, what do you mean Xethron Ubuntu webApp ?
[09:16] <Kilos> and they have microsoft moments according to the fly
[09:17] <Xethron> Golynx: its the new hype in Ubuntu. Its an app that opens a website, but has support for some native stuff...
[09:17] <Xethron> Golynx: like, Gmail, opens in its own "browser" window, so it feels like its a native app, and it shows your unread message count in your launcher tray
[09:18] <Golynx> Xethron: i think if i can get more ram i will use wine , that i think will solve my issues :)
[09:18] <Xethron> Pfft, wine is useless and too much of a struggle. Setup Windows 7 in a VM
[09:18] <Xethron> and share your folders
[09:19] <Xethron> Map your documents in windows to your documents in Linux
[09:19] <Golynx> Xethron: yeah, like phonegap apps. The ubuntu phone i read is very supportive of webapps html5
[09:19] <Xethron> And then, except for 3D hardware excelerated Games, everything works on it, unlike Wine that has glitches everywhere
[09:20] <Xethron> However, Wine can run some Direct 3D Hardware Accellerated apps and games...
[09:20] <Golynx> Xethron: i will double cross those bridges when i get there , thanks :)
[09:20] <Xethron> Anyway, brb
[09:23] <Kilos> haha that game is hard work
[09:38] <Golynx> Kilos i mailed it to you
[09:39] <Kilos> ty Golynx 
[09:39] <Golynx> if you open the snakey.html file in there it should open up in the browser
[09:40] <Golynx> np
[09:40] <Kilos> ok ty
[09:44] <Kilos> it opens but shows lotsa black blocks with white kinda envelopes in them
[09:45] <Golynx> does images load on that browser tab
[09:46] <Kilos> i see the main window yes only the bombs and stuff dont show
[09:47] <Golynx> if your in opera make sure the "Show Images" option is on and javascript is enabled
[09:47] <Kilos> it opened with firefox
[09:48] <Kilos> dunno why, opera opens on everything else
[09:52] <Golynx> it most likely your images setting in opera is set to Cached images, so it wont show new images on that new tab. 
[09:52] <Kilos> lemme look
[09:54] <Kilos> nope its set to show images
[09:54] <Kilos> but opera dont wanna open it
[09:55] <Golynx> hmm, and when you refresh the page
[09:56] <Kilos> i still see the online game in opera but it wont open the game from the desktop
[09:56] <Kilos> nm ill play it online
[09:57] <Kilos> head too sore to have to think much'
[09:57] <Kilos> oh mustnt i extract anything first
[09:59] <Golynx> yes, extract first on desktop or somewhere, then open the file from the extracted folder
[09:59] <Kilos> ok lemme see 
[10:00] <Kilos> there we go all sorted ty
[10:01] <Kilos> haha
[10:03] <Golynx> if you open it before extracting then opera wont know the paths to the images.
[10:03] <Golynx> Glad it works :)
[10:03] <Kilos> ty
[10:04] <Golynx> np
[11:36] <Golynx> Kilos sorry i saw your message now. Made a fix for the enter key to close popup and you can press H for help
[11:36] <Golynx> hi smile
[11:36] <smile> hi :D
[11:36] <Golynx> Kilos i mailed it 
[11:37] <Kilos> hi smile ty Golynx its working fine here ty
[11:38] <Golynx> ya its kinda weird to use mouse and keys for such a simple game hehe
[11:38] <Golynx> np
[11:59] <smile> :)
[14:04] <nlsthzn> o/
[14:12] <Kilos> yo nlsthzn 
[14:13] <nlsthzn> how are you uncle Kilos?
[14:13] <Golynx> wb nlsthzn
[14:15] <Kilos> ok ty nlsthzn and you?
[14:15] <Kilos> just woke 
[14:17] <nlsthzn> hi Golynx
[14:17] <nlsthzn> nap?
[14:18] <Kilos> ya
[14:18] <nlsthzn> lekker
[16:18]  * Kilos installing kubuntu 14.04 on old pc
[16:35] <Xethron> Well, my Ubuntu is still running
[16:35] <Xethron> Quite nice
[16:35] <Kilos> it wont crash, very stable
[16:35] <Xethron> Previous version did
[16:35] <Kilos> once you get used to unity it actually is very lekker
[16:35] <Xethron> I think it was a problem with my Graphics Drivers or something...
[16:36] <Kilos> what error did you see then
[16:36] <Kilos> graphics is a pain in ubuntu. dunno why them cards give such probs
[16:38] <Kilos> but lately the additional drivers thing works well
[16:39] <Kilos> Xethron, what graphics card you got?
[16:40] <Kilos> the nvidia-current also seems fine lately
[16:41] <Xethron> Kilos: that was the problem. Never got any output. The entire Laptop would just crash solid. Can't fall to TTY's, can't even do System Requests... And I mean, System Requests ALWAYS work. So yeah... And it never logged anything
[16:41] <Xethron> I have an AMD Radeon HD 6470M
[16:41] <Kilos> blank screen or hang?
[16:41] <Xethron> Hang
[16:41] <Kilos> eish
[16:41] <Xethron> Everything looks exactly as it did
[16:42] <Xethron> but nothing moves
[16:42] <Kilos> that sucks
[16:42] <Xethron> But
[16:42] <Xethron> Lets hope thats in the past
[16:42] <Kilos> but no hassles with 14.04
[16:42] <Kilos> so thats good
[16:42] <Xethron> Its been going nicely so far
[16:42] <Xethron> Jup
[16:42] <Xethron> Oh, and I had problems with my BT
[16:42] <Xethron> which seems better now
[16:42] <Xethron> So thats good too
[16:42] <Kilos> whats BT
[16:43] <Xethron> BlueTooth
[16:43] <Xethron> I have a BT Mouse
[16:43] <Kilos> oh my i have never had BT probs
[16:43] <Kilos> just work
[16:43] <Kilos> ah
[16:43] <Xethron> Jup, well, seems perfect now :)
[16:43] <Kilos> yay
[16:43] <Xethron> yay
[16:44] <Kilos> only prob i have is with new telkom d-link modem
[16:45] <Kilos> need to do funny things to make it seen by nm
[16:56] <Kilos> im scared to take the modem to other pc now then its lost here again
[16:56] <Kilos> sigh
[17:16] <Kilos> inetpro, werk weer more?
[17:16] <Kilos> jy het genoeg gerus nou
[17:16] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[17:16] <superfly> hi Kilos
[17:19] <Golynx> hi superfly
[17:19] <Golynx> are you a ios dev too
[17:19] <superfly> hi Golynx
[17:19] <superfly> no. I don't really do Android either, I'm just playing around with something to see how Android stuff works
[17:20] <superfly> I prefer getting my hands dirty on lower level stuff
[17:21] <Golynx> oh okay, good stuff
[17:29] <Kilos> eish kans van sneeu in die lesotho berge
[17:42] <inetpro> nou al sneeu? Eish!
[17:42] <inetpro> hello everyone
[17:42] <Kilos> jip ons kan hierdie winter baie koud kry
[17:44] <Golynx> hmm, the cold front dont like the Western Cape anymore 
[17:44] <Golynx> hi inetpro
[17:44] <Kilos> the cape nearly always has yucky weather
[17:45] <Golynx> it did a limbo under the W-Cape then went straight up to Lesotho lol
[17:45] <Kilos> lol
[17:46] <Kilos> weird how the weather works
[17:46] <Kilos> they cant predict accurately
[17:47] <Golynx> its actually the high pressure system inland that is more pushed to the west of SA that caused the cold front to come more inland on the east side of SA
[17:48] <Golynx> ya it gets harder to predict the weather patterns these days
[17:48] <Golynx> with global warming and all
[17:49] <Kilos> global warming isnt doing much warming here by us
[17:51] <Golynx> its mostly the pollution that traps the heat from the sun in the atmosphere that is slowly messing up global weather patterns. But we wont feel it until something big happens, like a flood or drought that lasts very long time
[17:52] <Kilos> drought coming
[17:54] <Golynx> i think Bloemfontein only got enough water left till September or November, not sure if its related to global warming or the ANC :D
[17:54] <Kilos> lol
[17:55] <Kilos> poor maintenance on everything helps
[17:56] <Golynx> haha ya
[18:28] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight