[00:00] <playx> ok wait a few weeks then back to mint... every release I give ubuntu a cahcne but every time all is crap ;-)
[00:00] <Bashing-om> jpalmer: Not that I know of ! see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades .
[00:00] <kman> Guys this is the screenshot, I have ubuntu installed in windows without partitions, i access it with wubi when I run my pc, later I have tried to do some partitions from windows but I don't know exactly what's happened. This is the screenshot:  http://imgur.com/C2sXups
[00:01] <kman> please let me know how to proceed
[00:01] <MathCubes> Me Me Me wants https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Software
[00:01] <OerHeks> MathCubes, he is running a private project, ask him to build .deb for you ?
[00:01] <Bashing-om> kman: I will look, be advised 'wubi' is no longer supported.
[00:01] <jpalmer> Bashing-om: yeah,  I've been looking at that.  it really only seems to cover every version to the next.   so,  if I were to follow that,  it'd be like 11ty uprades to the next LTS.  (which, I CAN do, but was hoping there was an easier less intensive way)
[00:02] <Bashing-om> jpalmer: The better option is to back up your data, and do a clean install (14.04 ) .
[00:03] <moli_> hello, is ubuntu-sso affected by heartbleed?
[00:03] <kman> now i wanna do 2 or 3 partitions to intall ubuntu 14.04 in a normal partition and to access to it with a good loader
[00:03] <jpalmer> one mans better, is another mans nightmare :)  I inherited this box,  and don't have a full audit of everything it's doing..   and there are some..  insane settings it's got.
[00:04] <gabriel> hi
[00:04] <kman> eventualy even another partition to install another linux distro
[00:04] <gabriel> someone can help me troubleshooting efi boot?
[00:05] <Bashing-om> kman: Yep wubi, Virtial file system installed within Windows -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1625371&highlight=resize2fs%20wubi, see if that helps.
[00:05] <anuraag_> GabrieleV_, yea could give it a shot
[00:05] <haaithere> hello, hope someone can help me with this easy thing. https://pay.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/23jm9l/how_to_correctly_set_a_new_macaddress_and_get_a/
[00:06] <tytan> Does anyone have experience with gnome-session-flashback?
[00:06] <Bashing-om> jpalmer: I feel for ya, I do, but there are, so far as I know, only the two options.
[00:07] <Bashing-om> kman: Migrating the wubi is doable .
[00:08] <OerHeks> kman, you made some free space, make an Extended partition from that space, and let ubuntu do the partitioning.
[00:09] <jpalmer> Bashing-om: I've made a full backup. I'll do the million upgrades to get to the next LTS.   then from there, as near as I can tell..  is upgrade LTS to LTS skipping all the smaller ones in between.
[00:09] <OerHeks> migrate wubi ... never done this > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[00:10] <kman> No, i don't need to save my ubuntu datas because they r stored all in a drivepen. I instead would delete this virtual file system of Ubuntu 13.10 completely holding just Windows. then I wanna do other 2 partitions and install a normal ubuntu 14.04
[00:11] <Bashing-om> jpalmer: Yep, once ya get to 10.04 -> 12.04 -> 14.04 one may .
[00:12] <quem> just installed 14.04 server.. and upon boot, it seemingly freezes saying "scanning for btrfs filesystems".
[00:12] <jpalmer> I just got to 9.04
[00:12] <Bashing-om> kman: Me too -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi . or maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubiManually .
[00:13] <kman> ok, then I should try to to one or more extended partion with a dvd live cd
[00:14] <Bashing-om> jpalmer: It is real real risky to move that far, but it can be done. So much has changed since those early days, there are those many time that all these changes do not propogate well. Good Luck !
[00:15] <kman> are you sure they have to do extended partition and not a primary partition?
[00:15] <OerHeks> Extended you need, because you can have 4 primairy partitions only ..
[00:16] <OerHeks> kman can you change somehow that d: ntfs partition? delete it and recreate it next to your windows partition?
[00:16] <jpalmer> Bashing-om: yeah, I hear you.   I think it woulda been safer to just upgrade from hardy to the next LTS (since that is supported, even though it's EOL) but I goofed up,  and upgraded to a non-LTS version.
[00:16] <Bashing-om> kman: When working in Windows, use Windows' tools to set up for the ubuntu partition. Depoending on your partitioning scheme (GPT or the legacy msdos) will determine the next step.
[00:17] <STiK> amazing how linux operating systems still strugle with intensive multitasking..
[00:17] <jpalmer> STiK: struggle in what regard?
[00:18] <Beldar> must be why 90% of the fastest computers run linux
[00:19] <kman> so your advice is to try to do partitions with windows and later install a brand new ubuntu?
[00:19] <kman> on the extended partition
[00:20] <Bashing-om> kman: Not necessarily a clean install,,, mind ya I have never run Wubi, and it has been years since I touched Windows. What relase of ubuntu are you running presently ?
[00:20] <qin> 90% humans have problem with talking while eating, Beldar ;)
[00:20] <STiK> copying lots of files can bring them to a crawl.. running a vm can do the same thing... Basic stuff windows handles fairly well..
[00:21] <SKELETR0N> i'm trying to look at my log files for mysql and nginx but when i try to cd /var/logs/mysql it says permission denied, sudo cd doesnt work, how do you get to these directories?
[00:21] <jpalmer> STiK: so you equate disk I/O with.. multitasking?
[00:21] <STiK> I wouldn't consider an idle vm as an issue with I/O
[00:22] <kman> now it is a virtual 13.10   32bit, i wanna install a normal partition of 14.04   64bit
[00:22] <jpalmer> interestingly,  I have a machine right now with 16 active VM's,  and don't see this "crawling" or "multitasking" issue you speak of.
[00:23] <qin> STiK: What vm are you running?
[00:23] <STiK> Figured you would say that ;)
[00:24] <STiK> right now I have Win8 updating in vmware..
[00:24] <chokesmaster> Anyone know if this bug will be checked? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openvpn/+bug/1294899
[00:25] <zg> I am trying to use Ubuntu Desktop on this laptop as a kind of server, but I'm having issues with the network being turned off when the lid is closed. Someone suggested 'acpi=off apm=off' in /etc/default/grub, which worked for what I needed to do. I'm wondering if this has any severe effects in the long term (i.e. what would be bad with acpi being off)
[00:26] <Bashing-om> kman: Well, we know that there will have to be upfront provisions made for a partition to install ubuntu onto. To show us what the present situation , do you have a liveDVD of ubuntu still around ?
[00:26] <kman> let me check
[00:28] <Bashing-om> kman: Like advised, I do not work with Windows, will want to work with ubuntu tools. - must do the set ups in Windows however, to keep Windows happy.
[00:28] <kman> i see
[00:28] <qin> zg: I thinks in power setting you should have maked "turn display off" and not maked suspend etc
[00:28] <hexacode> hey you guys...i had a 3 tb external usb drive connected and i accidentally ran "dd if=kali.iso of=/dev/sdb"   and it pretty much i think ruined my external drive...but i unplugged it quickly...now when i go lsusb, the device shows, but it wont mount. anything i can do? also, what exactly did i do to the drive?
[00:32] <Cub2> he.llo
[00:32] <Cub2> hello
[00:32] <netwrkmstr> :-)
[00:32] <quem> what's the name of that clever autocomplete thingie package? i want to install it on ubuntu server. :)
[00:32] <quem> and delight with it.
[00:32] <Cub2> does anyone know how to get whois info to show up on the active window with xchat?
[00:32] <haaithere> I changed my MAC address, then I changed it back to the original state, but now I can't get the correct IP, in order to browse the web. help? details: https://pay.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/23jm9l/how_to_correctly_set_a_new_macaddress_and_get_a/
[00:33] <OerHeks> hexacode, you should let it finish, that is the worst thing to do, unplugging
[00:33] <netwrkmstr> right click on name and you'll everything you need
[00:33] <Beldar> hexacode, If it shows as unallocated now, my guess is you broke the partition table   sdb is the HD, get other opinions, recovery is where you're at now I think.
[00:33] <netwrkmstr> you should be able to restart the network service
[00:34] <kman> No, I can't find it right now, anyway I will try to find it and will return here again in few days
[00:34] <kman> thamks, guys have a good day or night, depend where u are. Cheers
[00:35] <netwrkmstr> if youre running network manager, click on enable network, that should disable the network,click on your network connection then click on enable networking again...see if that fixes it.
[00:35] <Bashing-om> kman: OK, We will be here in the event of need. Study twice, apply once.
[00:35] <kman> yes.. thanks again
[00:36] <netwrkmstr> good eal
[00:36] <netwrkmstr> deal*
[00:36] <hexacode> i just murdered my superblock sector of my external hd...how can i fix this? im sure my data is still there.
[00:36] <qin> hexacode: shoud not dd ask to sudo?
[00:36] <Bashing-om> hexacode: Only as a thought, recon maybe all that dd over wrote is the partition table, maybe think about sparring the table off from a bck up ?
[00:37] <hexacode> qin it did
[00:37] <netwrkmstr> see if you access the other superblock on the drive, there's is a dd command for that.
[00:37] <rww> !recover
[00:37] <OerHeks> 3 gb sounds like GPT, so you will need special tools
[00:38] <OerHeks> err 3 Tb
[00:38] <Beldar> that was just my thought, OerHeks
[00:39] <OerHeks> and it depends on what the filesystem 'was'
[00:42] <davidrsmorris> You might want to look at Forensics Wiki to get ideas on data recovery.
[00:45] <Bashing-om> hexacode: what returns ? -> sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sdb1 | grep superblock <- .
[00:50] <dusf123_> okay, so i have lvm set up with /, /home, and swap encrypted and windows 8.1 is dual booting fine. unfortunately when i boot ubuntu i have to enter my crypt password three times, and then once to login - is there a more efficienct way to encrypt securely?
[00:56] <rodicio> Hi. Anybody knows about to install Greasemonkey and if them could to execute dangerous scripts?
[00:57] <dusf123_> i have lvm set up with /, /home, and swap encrypted and windows 8.1 is dual booting fine. unfortunately when i boot ubuntu i have to enter my crypt password three times, and then once to login - is there a more efficienct way to encrypt securely?
[00:57] <dusf123_> rodicio: i use greasemonkey, but i am not sure what you are asking exactly
[00:59] <gilll69> man am i having a hard time with unrealircd
[00:59] <rodicio>  dusf123_   I am afraid for new scripts in Firefox that could be dangerous that before couldn't be executed
[01:00] <dusf123_> rodicio: scripts can be dangerous
[01:00] <jamesd> i know a script that blew away a full windows install, and replaced it with a new operating system...
[01:01] <rodicio> jamesd,  :D
[01:02] <gilll69> how can i make my server niticable without the 192.168
[01:02] <mrg2014> hi im stuck on the ubuntu installation, i blanked a hard drive to use as the ubuntu drive, but when i choose to install alongside windows it trys
[01:02] <mrg2014> to only use windows hard drive
[01:03] <mrg2014> figured i need to go to "something else" but its rather confusing
[01:03] <Slart> gilll69: can you explain what you're trying to do? start a webserver visible to the internet?
[01:03] <FourFire> Hello
[01:03] <rodicio> some scripts (javascript) in Firefox, make on the CPU at 98%
[01:03] <mrg2014> managed to format the drive as ext4 and set it as / but now its asking for a swap drive lol ....help
[01:04] <FourFire> So, I just learned about "Drive-by Downloads"
[01:04] <FourFire> is Ubuntu vulnerable to them at all?
[01:04] <dusf123_> i have lvm set up with /, /home, and swap encrypted and windows 8.1 is dual booting fine. unfortunately when i boot ubuntu i have to enter my crypt password three times, and then once to login - is there a more efficienct way to encrypt securely?
[01:05] <mrg2014> anyone?
[01:06] <dusf123_> FourFire: block all that stuff with ad-block in firefox, you will never see the popup telling you to click to fix your computer etc
[01:06] <mrg2014> do i need to blank another hard drive to use as this swap drive?
[01:06] <mrg2014> really rather not do that
[01:07] <mrg2014> cant have it along side windows as my windows drive is the smallest one
[01:07] <mrg2014> though i want it dual booting lol damn ubuntu is not user friendly
[01:08] <FourFire> dusf123_, yes I do
[01:08] <mrg2014> managed to get it onto my laptop with out agro
[01:08] <FourFire> I also have noscript
[01:08] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: In order to assist, show us what we are working with; pastebinit -> sudo fdisk -lu , sudo parted -l .
[01:08] <FourFire> dusf123_, but, you haven't answered my question
[01:08] <mrg2014> this is on a different computer
[01:09] <mrg2014> bashing-om at the moment the ubuntu install is at the install type screen on my main pc
[01:10] <mrg2014> bashing-om the drive i want to use is /dev/sdb1 its a 500mb drive
[01:10] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: Absolutely positive that Windows alone is on the 1st hard drive that ubuntu would see as device sda ? and there is a 2nd hard drive that ubuntu will see as device sdb ?
[01:11] <mrg2014> bashing-om /dev/sda1 is the windows 8(loader) drive
[01:11] <mrg2014> when i choose " along side windows" it wanted to share that drive
[01:12] <mrg2014> but i really need it to use sdb1 and yet still dual boot
[01:12] <tank> how would a non competitve person thrive in business?
[01:12] <mrg2014> is that possible?
[01:12] <tank> wrong window
[01:13] <mrg2014> bashing-om is what i want to do possible ?
[01:14] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: I would have expected then that the optoion "install along side" does not apply. In the installer if you had of pointed the installer to sdb, would have installed ubuntu onto that drive ( taking up the whole drive), ekse one can choose something else and carefully set up the partitions. Or one may have preset the partitions that ubuntu will install onto.
[01:14] <dusf123_> FourFire: i don't think ubuntu has activex
[01:14] <dusf123_> i have lvm set up with /, /home, and swap encrypted and windows 8.1 is dual booting fine. unfortunately when i boot ubuntu i have to enter my crypt password three times, and then once to login - is there a more efficienct way to encrypt securely?
[01:15] <mrg2014> bashing-om i got as far as to format sdb1 as ext4 and set mount point to / (the root it asked for) but when i clicked install now it wanted a "swap" partition
[01:15] <mrg2014> bashing-om this is where im now confused
[01:15] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: Yes I see it done a dazen times a day. 1st hard drive is Windows, 2nd hard drive is ubuntu, set the boot priority to boot the 2nd hard drive, ubuntu's grub picks up Windows and chainloads windows onto ubuntu's boot loader. Never even touch Windows.
[01:16] <FourFire> dusf123_, I'll take that as a maybe, thanks
[01:17] <mrg2014> bashing-om so just go into bios set the other hard drive to boot before the windows one and all should be good?
[01:17] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: Ubuntu wants a swap partition, but IF you have enough ram and do not hibernate, not needed. else one can go back with GParted and set up the swap partition.
[01:17] <Slart> mrg2014: swap doesn't need another drive.. you can even setup a swap file once the install is finished.. or a separate swap partition on the same drive
[01:18] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: All will be good boot wise After ubuntu is fully installed.
[01:19] <mrg2014> bashing-om now trying
[01:19] <mrg2014> bashing-om also thank you for taking the time to help its appreciated
[01:20] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: Open source, we are all in this together. Your time will come to help others.
[01:21] <dusf123_> i have lvm set up with /, /home, and swap encrypted and windows 8.1 is dual booting fine. unfortunately when i boot ubuntu i have to enter my crypt password three times, and then once to login - is there a more efficienct way to encrypt securely?
[01:21] <mrg2014> bashing-om well my bios didnt detect the other hard drive im thinking maybe just install ubuntu over windows 8 and then reinstall windows to the other drive ...not ideal though
[01:22] <mrg2014> bashing-om scratch that, no idea where my windows disc is at mo
[01:23] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: UMMhmm.. not good, I bet you installed the boot loader to the Windows' hard drive. Will need to fix Window boot with Windows' tools. We can fix ubuntu booting !
[01:25] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: No Windows disk to fix windows ? OK, let's see what results when you boot from that 1st hard drive. maybe yeas maybe not so yes.
[01:25] <mrg2014> bashing-om nope just a cheap bios, i have selected "something else" and im telling it to make sdb1 ext4 and / etc will ignore it when it says about swap drive
[01:25] <mrg2014> so far it hasnt touched the windows drive so windows is still ok
[01:26] <MKCoin> Hm, chromium is crashing on me, what command do I use when running it from a terminal to get a dump of whatever errors it's getting?
[01:26] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: Watch for where grub is to be installed to .. we want the boot lader (Grub) installed to 'sdb' !
[01:26] <mrg2014> bashing-om that swap space message is a scary one, you sure ill be ok with out it?
[01:27] <mrg2014> bashing-om that would be "device for boot loader" yes?
[01:27] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: We will live over it. is fixable later ( or now if ya want to RE-install ).
[01:27] <IotaSpencer> I got additional IP's on my server, how would I go about making them available for apache and znc etc
[01:28] <Bashing-om> device for boot loader is 'sdb' !
[01:28] <mrg2014> bashing-om havnt clicked install yet, looking at it i thing if i resize sdb1 i can make another partition for the swap, just need to know how big?
[01:29] <mrg2014> bashing-om the drive is 500gb so 10gb for swap too small or too big?
[01:29] <mrg2014> also i have set the boot to sdb
[01:29] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: Great ! .. make swap a tad bit bigger than the amount of ram you have onboard, max now a days for 'swap' is 4 Gigs , on a Desk top machine.
[01:30] <mrg2014> bashing-om i have 8gb ram so 10gb is right ?
[01:31] <mrg2014> bashing-om sorry didnt see 4 as max
[01:31] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: You will not use it ! // unless you are doing some real heavy number crunching.. I run with 4 gigs swap and have never touched it.
[01:32] <Strav> He. Small audio question: it seems pulseaudio has problems in recognizing my usb headset upon plugging it. It sometimes work during a session but most of the time, I have to reboot to make it show in my audio devices list. Any suggestion on how I can improve on that?
[01:33] <deserteagle> hello lal
[01:33] <deserteagle> *all
[01:33] <mrg2014> bashing-om ....yay it got past that screen with out a warning :)
[01:33] <deserteagle> anyone know why my xscreen is bigger than the monitor size?
[01:33] <Bashing-om> deserteagle: All of us are here, what's up ? How may we assist ?
[01:34] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: Looking good !
[01:34] <deserteagle> the xorg.conf file has the same rez as it's always had (1920x1080)
[01:35] <mrg2014> bashing-om do you know anything about steam? it was the other question thats in my mind, i know theres a native one and i know theres playonlinux to use the windows one, but can you have both installed?
[01:35] <IotaSpencer> I got additional IP's on my server, how would I go about making them available for apache and znc etc (reposting since out of view)
[01:36] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: I do not run steam, but this advise, do not try and install both as with out "sand boxing" one of them you will have serious conflicts in libraries and other supporting files.
[01:37] <mrg2014> bashing-om have no idea what sand boxing is but im assuming if i google it (once everything is sorted) it will be easy to find?
[01:39] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: Google the term sure. But setting up to iso;ate a program is not for the un-initiated .
[01:39] <Bashing-om> isolate*
[01:39] <mrg2014> bashing-om ah got to go, this laptop was installed with 13.04 disk so its been updating to 13.10 (i think from there i can update to 14.10) its now needing to restart
[01:40] <mrg2014> bashing-om the main pc im dealing with however is going straight to 14.10 :) seemed easier
[01:40] <mrg2014> bashing-om thanks again for the help
[01:41] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: release 14.04 ... 14.10 is staill a bit far away. (October ) .
[01:41] <mrg2014> bashing-om ah yes 14.04 not 14.10
[01:42] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: will be here when ya get back.
[01:42] <mrg2014> bashing-om been a long day, my windows died on my laptop at work and i have had 13.04 disc in my bag for emergencys like that
[01:43] <Bashing-om> mrg2014: Nothing else like it > fix-a-flat aint't got nothing on us !
[01:43] <IotaSpencer> Does anyone know a way to bind IP's on a vps
[01:45] <dusf123_> i have lvm set up with /, /home, and swap encrypted and windows 8.1 is dual booting fine. unfortunately when i boot ubuntu i have to enter my crypt password three times, and then once to login - is there a more efficienct way to encrypt securely?
[01:45] <feitingen> IotaSpencer: pay your provider?
[01:47] <IotaSpencer> feitingen: the IP's are already on my account, znc and apache just don't want to pick them up
[01:48] <feitingen> IotaSpencer: did you edit your /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:48] <ml74>  Anyone got any in depth knowledge of Apache? Keep getting this error: [Sun Apr 20 21:47:17.495848 2014] [core:notice] [pid 1700] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2' and a white page where the site should be
[01:48] <IotaSpencer> no i haven't, I found a page how to do it, but I wanted to know if there was an easier way
[01:49] <IotaSpencer> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[01:50] <feitingen> IotaSpencer: maybe, but that way is the safest and most correct way and won't come back to bite you in the ass
[01:50] <feitingen> pardon my language, no offense meant
[01:52] <IotaSpencer> feitingen: well do you mind if I pm you to see if I'm doing it right, since you probably know more
[01:52] <IotaSpencer> and don't worry about language with me at least
[01:53] <feitingen> sure, pm me
[01:54] <andrew> hi
[01:54] <feitingen> use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ if you have a lot to paste
[01:54] <andrew> on ubuntu but html  wont open
[02:03] <deserteagle> anyone know about xserver settings that could help me with a screen size/resolution problem?
[02:04] <tony2014> I have an iMac2007, hate Maverick OSX.  Want to install Ubuntu.  However, when I burn the 64 bit Ubuntu ISO, Mac complains the disc is UNREADABLE!    Is there a MAC Ubuntu ISO I should be using?
[02:05] <tony2014> interestingly, when I burn a 32bit ISO Mac says it's READABLE and has no problems!   Anyone shed some light on this?
[02:05] <tony2014> bluezone, any ideas? :)
[02:05] <bluezone> why me? :O
[02:06] <Ayonae> tony2014: There is something you have to do, I can't remember what it is. One sec.
[02:06] <tony2014> Ayonae, ok :)
[02:06] <sta7ic> tony, maybe your mac is 32 bit? heh
[02:07] <Ayonae> tony2014: Ubuntu uses hybrid ISO now, mac has trouble mounting them
[02:07] <Blue1> I am having a problem updating xubuntu 14.04.  I did an apt-get update, and it is stuck at 58% -- known issue or...?
[02:07] <Greylocks> Ayonae: you can get the iso for mac here: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/14.04/release/
[02:07] <sta7ic> dus, i thought i saw something where u could place keys on one partition to unlock the others so u only had to unlock lets say /
[02:08] <Ayonae> tony2014: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[02:08] <tony2014> Ayonae, so I can't create a bootable Ubuntu to install now? :(    I tried USB before but it keeps complaining about a fallback error or something :(  what can I do?
[02:10] <Blue1> tony2014: are you trying to install ubuntu to a usb stick?
[02:10] <Ayonae> Blue1: I htink he is using optical as he said burn, but I have never got it working from optical.
[02:11] <Ayonae> Ayonae: Anyway I'll leave it with you. I can't remember what I had to do.
[02:11] <Blue1> ok
[02:11] <tony2014> Blue1, When I tried these steps, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx  , it keeps failing to boot, it complains about some FALLBACK FILE issue not found or something like that.   And Ubuntu DVD boot won't work? But why?  Mint works but I can't use Mint as WIRELESS internet doesn't appear to work in it
[02:11] <Ayonae> Blue1: tony2014 I know I had to something to get the mac to mount the image, but i dont remember what.
[02:12] <Ayonae> tony2014: yry the dvd , maybe it's fixed
[02:12] <tony2014> Ayonae, what 32 bit Ubuntu ISO should I use?
[02:12] <Blue1> I do not know mac - so I am of limited assistance sorry
[02:13] <tony2014> Mac and OSX is no good imo, so I want Ubuntu on my Mac.  But 64 bit ISOS don't work or read by my mac!  I tried the 32 bit Mint and it worked but NO wireless.   What 32 bit Ubuntu ISO shall I try as I want ti use Ubuntu
[02:14] <Blue1> it depends on whether you want gnome, xface, unity....
[02:14] <tony2014> Interesting why 64bit ISO doesn't READ after burning, but 32 bit ISO does.  Why?
[02:15] <Blue1> tony2014: could be a bios issue -- you may not have a 64 bit machine
[02:15] <rww> that wouldn't stop it from being read
[02:15] <rww> it'd just give an error on boot
[02:15] <Blue1> tony2014: try this:  if grep -q ' lm ' /proc/cpuinfo; then echo "is 64 bits"; else "No luck :("; fi
[02:15] <tony2014> Blue1 but my iMac is classified as 64 bit.  and why would that stop it reading a 64bit burned ISO?
[02:16] <tony2014> Blue1 how can I when I can't install Ubuntu yet :P
[02:16] <tony2014> Blue1, whats the command in mac?
[02:16] <darkangel> Any Ubuntu user need a free open_SSH server?
[02:16] <Blue1> tony2014: i thought you said you could boot 32 bit iso
[02:16] <tony2014> Blue1, Mint yes, haven't tried Ubuntu yet, download the 32 but 14 now
[02:17] <Blue1> just because mac says it is 64 bit....what does linux say it is?  that's the question...
[02:17] <tony2014> Blue1, When I burn the 64 bit Mint or Ubuntu, burn process says SUCCESSFUL!  But then Mac says the dvd is UNREADABLE!   But when I tried the 32bit Mint it READS IT!   Why?
[02:17] <tony2014> Blue1, I will tell you IF I get ubuntu installed :P
[02:17] <Blue1> tony2014: could be a bios issue
[02:18] <tony2014> Blue1, downloading 32bit Ubuntu ISO now.  Will try that and let you know
[02:18] <Blue1> k
[02:18] <codepython777> I need to translate a text/pdf file from English to another language (180 pages). Are there any good solutions on ubuntu for this?
[02:18] <tony2014> Blue1, will 32bit Ubuntu use all my 4GB RAM?
[02:19] <Blue1> tony2014: i don't know mac hardware - but on a pee cee environment it would.
[02:19] <tony2014> Blue1, when I load ubuntu dvd and install will Ubuntu auto detect my wireless router?  Mint failed at that
[02:19] <Randy_O> any Ubuntu phone SDK folks around? I'm getting an error now when trying to run an app on a Nexus 4 from the SDK: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[02:20] <Blue1> tony2014: well I dont know of any linux software to detect wireless routers.  wireless lan cards yes - but not routers.
[02:20] <tony2014> may I ask... why would the ubuntu developers now begin using hybrid ISO, seeing mac has trouble mounting them?
[02:20] <edisto> I am trying to use gconf to make the trash, dekstop, and home icons visible on my desktop but I don't see nautilus.... what is the desktop icon visibility under now in gconf?
[02:20] <Blue1> edisto: try gnome-tweak-tool
[02:20] <tony2014> Maybe I could use an older NON HYBRID ISO and install and upgrade from within Ubuntu?
[02:21] <minimec> edisto: gconf is not used anymore. It would be dconf and dconf-editor.
[02:21] <Blue1> edisto: there is an option in gnome-tweak-tool to show desktop icons
[02:21] <tony2014> Blue1, I meant pan cards.... will ubuntu do this so I can easily connect to my router?  Mint failed to detect my pan card:(
[02:21] <tony2014> lan
[02:21] <ml74> I'm having some issues... I keep getting this error: [Sun Apr 20 21:47:17.495848 2014] [core:notice] [pid 1700] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2' and a white page where the site should be. Can anyone point me in the right direction to fixing this?
[02:22] <Blue1> tony2014: It depends on what type of wireless lan card -- I have had problems with atheros but they may have fixed that by now.
[02:22] <hankbillings> test
[02:22] <hankbillings> exit
[02:22] <Blue1> atheros=qualcomm for all intents and purposes
[02:24] <tony2014> any developers here?
[02:24] <Blue1> tony2014: sometimes the network manager (mangler) may not work with certain interfaces.  I can point you to what I did -- YMMV always applies:  http://pkill-9.com/stabilizing-atheros-ar9485-ath9k-connection-linux-wheezy/
[02:26] <Randy_O> any Ubuntu phone SDK folks around? I'm getting an error now when trying to run an app on a Nexus 4 from the SDK: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[02:26] <feitingen> codepython777: as far as i know, there is no (good?) translators for ubuntu that doesn't use a web service, but i'd be extremely happy if someone proved me wrong
[02:27] <rww> Randy_O: more of them hang out in #ubuntu-touch, you might want to try there as well :)
[02:27] <codepython777> feitingen: i cant find a good web service either to do what i want to do. I needto translate a 180 page engish document
[02:27] <codepython777> bing/google cuts me off at page 20.
[02:28] <edisto> thx much gnome-tweak seems a little buggy but it has my dekstop icons =D
[02:28] <Randy_O> rww: been and tried, seems a bit quite on that channel. thanks
[02:28] <Blue1> edisto: YAY
[02:28] <Blue1> edisto: yes I ran into similiar issues
[02:31] <edisto> Blue1: gnome-teak-tools has no computer icon eh? just home, network servers, and mounts?
[02:32] <tony2014> message for developers: Why oh why, are you now using hybrid ISO which I think is the culprit my Mac can't read the burned ISO file :(
[02:32] <rww> tony2014: are you using the amd64+mac ISO?
[02:32] <tony2014> rww, where is the link for that?
[02:32] <rww> also: they're using hybrid ISO because it makes various things on sane systems immesurably easier
[02:32] <holstein> !mini
[02:33] <tony2014> rww,  fair enough hehe
[02:33] <holstein> ^ might not be hybrid
[02:33] <Guest7905> New at ubuntu, any help with commands to irc channle to join?
[02:33] <Guest7905> or* not to
[02:33] <holstein> Guest7905:  /join is the command to join channels
[02:33] <rww> tony2014: oh, hrm, can't find it on the download page. maybe they dropped it, sec
[02:33] <tony2014> rww,  i didn't know a MAC ISO version existed. where can I find the 64 bit ISO?
[02:33] <tony2014> rww,  ok ty :)
[02:34] <tony2014> rww,  are you calling my iMac insane? hehe ;)
[02:34] <rww> tony2014: i'm calling the EFI firmware macs use insane, yes :P
[02:34] <tony2014> rww,  ok lol
[02:34] <rww> tony2014: look up mjg59's blogs on the subject if you get interested
[02:34] <rww> anyways
[02:34] <tony2014> rww,  only reason I have a MAC is it was a gift lol.. would never buy one :P
[02:34] <Guest7905> holstein: I know that, that's how I got here, I'm just looking for a help channel for linux all together
[02:35] <Guest7905> who is the_ant
[02:35] <Guest7905> exit
[02:36] <rww> tony2014: oh, there we go. there's one on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/trusty/release/
[02:37] <tony2014> rww, i get the file called "ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso " ?
[02:40] <basketball> will ms office ever come out for ubuntu
[02:40] <rww> basketball: ask Microsoft
[02:41] <lrcaballero> basketball: if u are serious, NO...but there is a suite that looks just like MS Office, google it...or use libre office
[02:41] <jonbr_000> any reason as to why im getting mysql error 1114 on 64 bit 12.04 LAMP this doesnt not occur in 32 bit
[02:41] <lrcaballero> for linux
[02:42] <jellow> basketball,  You can run 2007 word through wine / virtualbox alternatively libreoffice or even kingsoft which is proprietary
[02:43] <basketball> http://www.eteknix.com/microsoft-to-launch-office-for-linux-in-2014/
[02:44] <assef> #ubuntu-br
[02:44] <holstein> basketball: nothing is preventing anyone from releasing any software for linux. let them know you would like it for linux, and the reason its not for linux is not a technical reason. please use the #ubuntu-offtopic for discussion.. thanks!
[02:46] <jonbr_000> anyone on that run 12.04 x64 LAMP
[02:46] <holstein> jonbr_000: i have..
[02:46] <jonbr_000> hi holstein
[02:46] <tony2014> raw is that the file I need?
[02:46] <tony2014> rww,
[02:47] <tony2014> did someone say Microsoft, eeek? :(
[02:47] <tony2014> bad word, bad.
[02:47] <jonbr_000> i was running 12.04 x32 and have swaped to x64 but when i reimport my tables i keep getting error 1114 even in console
[02:47] <holstein> !ot | tony2014
[02:48] <holstein> jonbr_000: i doubt its the 32 64bit swap
[02:49] <holstein> jonbr_000: i think you would have the same issue importing into a new 32bit... this is a data base import?
[02:49] <jonbr_000> thats the only change made to system. php.ini my.cf all the same
[02:49] <jonbr_000> actuly i tested that. i did a clean install tasksel lamp and installed phpmyadmin and import goes fine. but x64 error 1114
[02:49] <abc123___> hello, can anyone here triage a bug?
[02:50] <holstein> jonbr_000: you can try that, if you like.. http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ and import into a 32bit, just for troubleshooting purposes
[02:50] <abc123___> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1289977 has been confirmed by numerous users
[02:50] <abc123___> one user (Phillip Susi) came up with an "explanation" which is not correct for almost every case
[02:51] <abc123___> however, he insists on marking the bug invalid
[02:51] <holstein> jonbr_000: maybe im misunderstanding what you are "importing".. the package names are different
[02:51] <rww> tony2014: the desktop mac+amd64 ISO on there, yeah
[02:51] <rww> tony2014: I think so, anyway. Can't hurt to try I guess.
[02:51] <abc123___> after extensive research on my own and following the workarounds discussed, the bug has not been fixed on my end (a sentiment confirmed by many others)
[02:51] <neko> Hi everyone. Quick question about 14.04: how do you switch desktops now? I installed XFCE but the menu to select it no longer appears at the login screen like it did in 12.04.
[02:51] <abc123___> hopefully if it is triaged this will prevent arbitrarily marking the bug as invalid
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[02:52] <xangua> neko: clic on the ubuntu logo icon next to your username
[02:53] <abc123___> also, Phillip has removed the bug from the release upgrader; I am not sure if this is the right call or not, so I hope someone more experienced than me will investigate whether it applies
[02:53] <neko> xangua: I figured it was right in front of me. Sorry to ask. Thank you!
[02:53] <abc123___> anyone here with triaging rights for grub2?
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> im looking to hide usernames and disabled fast userswitching in right corner on trusty, any hints?
[02:54] <tony2014> rww, downloading and will let you know as soon as I burn it in next 15 minutes
[02:55] <Guest40068> Hi there! So I've just upgraded to lastest ubuntu and found out it deletes /etc/X11/xorg.conf every time system reboots... is that a new feature? -.-
[02:55] <jonbr_000> holstein let me try and clean up my problem. I was running 12.04 x32 LAMP, my needs have changed and i have upgrade to 12.04 x64 LAMP. The Problem is that when i take my exported mysql dbase from x32; either gzip or raw; and import it to the x64 mysql, its error 1114 in both console or phpmyadmin,, to troubleshoot i setup a clean install on 12.04 x32 LAMP in VM and import my dbase with out...
[02:55] <jonbr_000> ...any problems
[02:55] <holstein> Guest40068: xorg.conf has been deprecated.. you shoud backup and just put it in place again
[02:55] <holstein> !xorgconf
[02:57] <holstein> jonbr_000: im not sure that thats supported. have you asked mysql support?
[02:57] <jonbr_000> yes
[02:57] <Guest40068> holstein: deprecated? O_o I put it back in place after every reboot... but it's a pain. What I am supposed to do to fix the situation?
[02:57] <holstein> jonbr_000: and?
[02:57] <holstein> Guest40068: im not clear on what is "broken"..
[02:57] <jonbr_000> they say it a problem with my system configuration
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> holstein: im letting you know, ive been able to install the new ubuntu-touch on my nexus7 tnx to the dev guys, it runs very smooth already!
[02:57] <holstein> Guest40068: you lose the xorg.conf after everyboot?
[02:58] <jonbr_000> but everything is exactly like my x32 php.ini my.cf etc
[02:58] <holstein> jonbr_000: maybe not *exactly*
[02:58] <syntroPi> Is it normal that gnome-terminal crashes Xorg in Trusty?
[02:58] <jonbr_000> only difference is the os being x64
[02:58] <holstein> jonbr_000: i would go to a server mailing list.. see if anyone has done exactly what yo are doing
[02:58] <redstar636> Hey I am trying to install Virtualbox on 14.04, but I am getting a 404 upon running apt-get update.  The error is:  Failed to fetch http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists/trusty/contrib/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not found
[02:58] <brainyron> jonbr_000:  What method are you using to export/import?  Are you taking a proper mysqldump and then importing or are you trying to move the binary files in place?
[02:59] <jonbr_000> brainyron im using phpmyadmin to export/import
[03:00] <holstein> jonbr_000: might want to take that out of the euqation as well
[03:00] <rypervenche> redstar636: They apparently don't have trusty yet.
[03:00] <jonbr_000> i just did using the console via ssh same issue
[03:00] <redstar636> rpyervenche: So that means I can't install it?
[03:00] <brainyron> jonbr_000: For what you're doing, I would  try using the commandline tools.  They handle whole-db operations like you're doing a bit better
[03:01] <rypervenche> redstar636: You can, just not from that repository.
[03:01] <Bashing-om> redstar636: -> http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists : no trusty listed. Has not made it to the PPA yet.
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox
[03:01] <redstar636> So I have to install using a method that doesn't involve apt-get?
[03:02] <rypervenche> redstar636: You can install it from the normal repositories. They have version 4.3.10.
[03:02] <jonbr_000> dumped through ssh, moved to new server ssh mysql import error 1114
[03:02] <rypervenche> redstar636: And that way you still use apt-get to install it. You simply need to comment out or remove the virtualbox repository from your sources.list.
[03:02] <tgm4883> Bashing-om, symantics I know, but it's the oracle repo, not a PPA. PPA (Personal Package Archive) is just canonical's branding of their service
[03:03] <brainyron> jonbr_000:  what does the mysql server error log show?
[03:03] <lotuspsychje> someone knows howto hide usernames in the right corner in trusty? ubuntu-tweak doesnt wanna hide them
[03:03] <Bashing-om> tgm4883: I do stand corrected, wrong terminology .. thanks.
[03:04] <rypervenche> tgm4883: High five for semantics!
[03:04] <redstar636> rypervenche:  I still get that 404 message when running apt-get update, even after commenting virtualbox line in sources.list.
[03:04] <jonbr_000> [ERROR] /usr/sbin/mysqld: The table 'catalog_product_index_eav_tmp' is full
[03:05] <rypervenche> redstar636: Check your /etc/apt/sources.list file and also the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory for any files that may have it in it.
[03:05] <tgm4883> redstar636, if you commented it out, you shouldn't get that error message because it shouldn't even be looking at that repo
[03:05] <asdofindia> lotuspsychje, funny mine doesn't show my name in the right corner
[03:05] <tgm4883> redstar636, as rypervenche said, I bet it's in that other directory
[03:05] <redstar636> Yeah it was
[03:05] <brainyron> jonbr_000: are you still working with the backup you took via phpmyadmin or are you taking a new backup?
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> asdofindia: are you single user in trusty? i have 2 users
[03:05] <jonbr_000> new
[03:06] <dooglus> I have a laptop running "Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS".  I run "do-release-upgrade" and it tells me "No new release found".  Why?
[03:06] <redstar636> Ah I didn't realize you could just apt-get install virtualbox without any other repositories.  Why doesn't Oracle make that clear in the docs?
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> asdofindia: maybe it enables after creating the 2nd user
[03:06] <asdofindia> lotuspsychje, yes I am a single user.
[03:06] <syntroPi> is it recommended to wait for the point release until trusty gets useable stable?
[03:06] <brainyron> jonbr_000: how big is this database?
[03:06] <rypervenche> redstar636: Because they want you to use their version.
[03:06] <jonbr_000> 288M
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> syntroPi: its stable here for me already
[03:06] <asdofindia> ah!! lotuspsychje, go to user accounts. you see an option "show my login name in the menu bar"
[03:06] <Guest40068> I'm sorry to ask again, but i didn't comprend the answer. At every reboot ubuntu deletes /etc/X11/xorg.cong. Is there a way I can stop my OS to self-vandalize?
[03:07] <brainyron> Did you use mysqldump or some other method?
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> asdofindia: let me take a look!
[03:07] <redstar636> rypervenche:  What's the difference?
[03:07] <brainyron> Also are they myisam or innodb tables?
[03:07] <jonbr_000> mysqldump
[03:07] <rypervenche> redstar636: One is created by Oracle, the other is created by Ubuntu/Canonical.
[03:07] <tony2014> rww, you there?
[03:07] <syntroPi> lotuspsychje, gnome is very unstable for me, it crashes every few mouseclicks the whole Xorg on my box
[03:07] <syntroPi> expecially with gnome-terminal
[03:07] <tgm4883> rypervenche, *packaged* by ubuntu/canonical
[03:08] <dooglus> when I run apt-get update I see lines like "Hit http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release.gpg" - so it's using an OK repository
[03:08] <gshmu> in my dash Recent Documents Repeated show
[03:08] <rypervenche> tgm4883: Sorry, semantics. It's late here.
[03:08] <jonbr_000> inno
[03:08] <tony2014> rww, the mac 64 bit ISO has same problems, one burning is complete it says UNREADABLE DVD.   So it looks like I can't using 64bit Ubuntu :(
[03:08] <tgm4883> rypervenche, there are some other differences as well. The ones in the repo are all the open source stuff. If you need support for some of the closed source stuff you have to have the oracle one
[03:09] <Bashing-om> dooglus: Try -> sudo do-release-upgrade -d <- .
[03:09] <dooglus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases tells me Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS isn't end-of-lifed until 2017
[03:09] <rypervenche> redstar636: You will get the latest versions from Oracle when they come out. From Ubuntu, you will get a "stable" version and like tgm4883 said, it might be a more "open" version and not have closed-source parts to it.
[03:09] <dooglus> so why won't it upgrade?
[03:09] <dooglus> I don't want the development version
[03:09] <tgm4883> rypervenche, actually, it appears that isn't even the case anymore (what I just said that is)  https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Editions
[03:09] <brainyron> jonbr_000: you said you copied the config over from the old server, have you tried using the stock my.cnf as well?
[03:09] <tgm4883> redstar636, yea, what rypervenche said
[03:09] <marlo> found a problem with 14.04 lock screen, google says little about it, should i post it on a bug report somewhere?
[03:09] <dooglus>        -d, --devel-release
[03:09] <dooglus>               Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is possible
[03:10] <dooglus> that's what -d does I think
[03:10] <redstar636> Should I go with oracle or openjdk?
[03:10] <jonbr_000> no not copied. i cp then edited; also tried stock and edited
[03:10] <marlo> i can actually reproduce the problem
[03:10] <rypervenche> redstar636: For java? I prefer openJDK for open-source reasons. I've never had a problem with it. I'm not a fan of Oracle.
[03:10] <syntroPi> lotuspsychje, are you on unity or gnome?
[03:11] <Bashing-om> dooglus: The point release for 14.04.1 is July 24. till then to get 14.04 the '-d' option applies.
[03:11] <dooglus> weird.  I upgraded my other machines without having to -d
[03:11] <dooglus> they weren't LTS though - is that significant?
[03:11] <tgm4883> dooglus, they weren't on LTS then
[03:11] <tgm4883> dooglus, LTS upgrades get offered at the .1 release
[03:11] <tgm4883> not sooner
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> asdofindia: tnx, but that not what im looking for, i want to hide users pressing the gear
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> asdofindia: and disable the list of users, to prevent fast userswitching
[03:12] <dooglus> nice
[03:12] <dooglus> didn't know that
[03:12] <dooglus> also didn't know the non-LTS releases geg support for less than a year now - found I was running an unsupported release in production!
[03:12] <dooglus> get*
[03:12] <gshmu> i want same file show once in dash!!!
[03:13] <tgm4883> dooglus, yep. I run LTS only in production
[03:13] <dooglus> didn't notice until heartbleed wasn't patched
[03:13] <dooglus> no heartbleed fix for the version that was released a yar ago
[03:13] <dooglus> year*
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> !heartbleed
[03:14] <tgm4883> dooglus, yep, 9 months only
[03:14] <Snowie> Hi all. I have written a bash script that tests the size of my ~/Videos folder, and then Trashes(trash-cli) the oldest file by access time until its under a limit. It then opens the Trash folder for the user, but i would like a notification that needs clicking when done to make sure i know it just trashed a bunch of stuff. Xmessage is ugly, notifyosd doesnt hang around enough, and appindicator doesnt appear to be callable from bas
[03:16] <tony2014> well this is a real shame :(  I can't install any 64 bit version on my Mac, not the MAC ISO either :(  Oh well, guess the Ubuntu developers don't want to help MAC users install ubuntu :(
[03:16] <tgm4883> tony2014, well first, MAC is Media Access Control
[03:16] <folkie> i'm having trouble installing the mint display manager and lightdm-gtk-greeter in xubuntu 14.04. is it possible?
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> asdofindia: think i found an url with a dconf trick to hide them
[03:16] <tgm4883> tony2014, second, Apple doesn't make that sort of thing easy
[03:17] <tony2014> tgm4883, either way, its a shame thats all I'm saying.  Cant install Ubuntu on my Mac
[03:17] <tgm4883> tony2014, what Mac?
[03:17] <Vcoder> hi
[03:17] <brainyron> tony2014: have you tried installing from USB instead of a DVD?
[03:17] <tony2014> tgm4883, iMac 2007
[03:17] <BuenGenio> hello
[03:17] <BuenGenio> is there any way to get Gnome 3 on stock Ubuntu 14.04?
[03:17] <DarkSector> Hi, just installed Ubuntu 14.04. First, auto eth0 wasn't working so I switched to manual, gave my machine an ip through the the router and now I am connected to LAN but I am not able to connect to the internet.
[03:17] <BuenGenio> as a desktop choice when loggingin
[03:17] <tony2014> brainyron, yes, but the USB won't load either... complains about fallback errors etc or something
[03:17] <folkie> basically all i want to do is use this: http://zagortenay333.deviantart.com/art/MDM-Numix-427299252 in xubuntu 14.04. not having anyluck installing mdm. i added a ppa but it was for 12.04 and i think because of that i cant get it to work.
[03:18] <tgm4883> tony2014, I'm pretty sure I have one of those at work with Ubuntu installed on it
[03:18] <DarkSector> I have the AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet from Qualcomm
[03:18] <tony2014> brainyron, but the 32bit MINT works.... but I wanted 64bit Ubuntu
[03:18] <Snowie> DarkSector: If it didnt get an IP automatically, that's the issue, in my experience "forcing" it wont fix anything
[03:18] <tony2014> tgm4883, what version ubuntu and is it 32 or 64bit?
[03:18] <tony2014> tgm4883, 32bit works but not 64bit
[03:18] <tgm4883> tony2014, I'd have to check when I get into work tomorrow. I only installed it on there as a test
[03:19] <brainyron> tony2014:  A lot of macs around that era actually can't use a 64 bit OS because they have  a 32 bit EFI.  I have a late-2006 model macbook with the same problem
[03:19] <tony2014> tgm4883, okidoki
[03:19] <tgm4883> tony2014, is 32-bit ubuntu on there now?
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> brb reboot
[03:19] <tony2014> brainyron, ok well that explains it :)
[03:19] <tony2014> tgm4883, no I tried 32bit Mint and it worked.  Now trying Fedora 64 bit...if that fails I will try 32bit Ubuntu
[03:20] <brainyron> tony2014:  Thats actually why Apple abandoned them  for OS updates-- they build 64 bit only kernels now
[03:20] <tony2014> brainyron, so you think I'm wasting my time trying any 64 bit Linux ISO?
[03:20] <DarkSector> Snowie yeah, that was it, fixed. Thanks.
[03:20] <Snowie> DarkSector: np :)
[03:20] <tgm4883> tony2014, does it not even boot in live mode?
[03:20] <DarkSector> later.
[03:20] <brainyron> tony2014:  It's probably not impossible but it's not gonna be an easy thing to pull off.  I was able to get Gentoo 64 bit on my mac at one point but thats obviously a lot more involved than installing ubuntu
[03:21] <tony2014> brainyron, I'm trying the 64bit Fedora now... if it fails I will try 32bit Ubuntu!   Mint 32 bit works but it doesn't detect my lan card, hence NO ability to connect to my router wireless :(
[03:21] <tgm4883> tony2014, if you ping me tomorrow I can check (that is if I go in tomorrow, my neck's been hurting pretty bad all weekend)
[03:21] <brainyron> tony2014: let me know if it works, I'd be curious to hear the result
[03:21] <tony2014> brainyron, I'm worried that seeing that no wireless ability to get onto the internet was in mint 32, that it may also be problem in Ubuntu 32 bit?
[03:21] <tony2014> brainyron, ok brb :)
[03:22] <Joufflu> some lan drivers are not open source and you have to search for them
[03:22] <Snowie> So any suggestions on a clickable popup notification in 14.04 from bash script that at least looks semi-professional?
[03:28] <Snowie> Wow, the more i read, the more i see the answer is no. are there any cli tools for appindicator?
[03:28] <tony2014> brainyron, Fedora 64bit burned and is READABLE
[03:29] <killuminatidotme> it's sudo rm /
[03:29] <killuminatidotme> it fixes everything just type it
[03:29] <tony2014> brainyron, So i guess the 64bit Ubuntu is UNREADABLE on mac due to hybrid ISO, and Fedora ISO 64bit is different, hence it works?
[03:29] <Snowie> killuminatidotme: really... really dude. what that tells me is you have been a linux user for about 5 seconds
[03:29] <killuminatidotme> hahaahahaaa
[03:30] <killuminatidotme> oh try sudo apt-get purge a*
[03:30] <rww> killuminatidotme: Something we can help you with?
[03:30] <tgm4883> that.... doesn't even work?
[03:30] <tgm4883> !danger
[03:30] <tgm4883> !mods
[03:30] <rww> tgm4883: hi, op here.
[03:30] <tgm4883> rww, killuminatidotme is..... danger
[03:30] <killuminatidotme> lol...
[03:30] <rww> tgm4883: I noticed.
[03:31] <rww> killuminatidotme: So yeah. Ubuntu support question, or...?
[03:31] <brainyron> tony2014:  macs are a bit cranky with bootable media.  Have you tried the alternate installer image?
[03:31] <tgm4883> tony2014, have you tried ubuntu server 64-bit? That is probably what I installed on there
[03:31] <tgm4883> tony2014, then you can just install the rest from there
[03:31] <tony2014> brainyron, not yet :)
[03:31] <folkie> i'm having trouble installing the mint display manager and lightdm-gtk-greeter in xubuntu 14.04. is it possible?
[03:32] <tony2014> tgm4883, i don't want server edition though... and 64bit Ubuntu ISO aren't working for me at all.  I just burned a Fedora 64bit ISO and it's READABLE so I will try installing that now
[03:33] <tgm4883> tony2014, server edition is basically command line only. then just install ubuntu-desktop
[03:33] <brainyron> tony2014:  you can pretty easily convert server edition to desktop edition by installing the ubuntu-desktop metapkg
[03:33] <tgm4883> yep, that's how I install my kiosks
[03:34] <killuminatidotme> i've also had some success with sudo apt-get install a*
[03:34] <killuminatidotme> you should try it
[03:34] <brainyron> thank you rww
[03:34] <tgm4883> idiot
[03:34] <tgm4883> thanks rww
[03:34] <rww> I live in eternal hope that these people will wise up before I have to do that :\
[03:35] <brainyron> They don't though do they?
[03:35] <kevin> hah
[03:35] <rww> lotuspsychje: dunno if you found this out by yourself by now, but no, they don't have decent tablet mode yet
[03:35] <rww> lotuspsychje: (I flashed it onto my Nexus last night because I need it for a release party)
[03:35] <ForSpareParts> I've got an apparently corrupt Ubuntu installation I'd like to reinstall over, but the installation is unberably slow as soon as it gets to a point where it's reading my hard drive and checking out my existing partitions. Any suggestions?
[03:36] <brainyron> how sure are you that your hard drive is healthy?
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> rww: what line did you use to install it?
[03:36] <rww> lotuspsychje: the one on the wiki, but replacing devel with trusty there should work fine too
[03:36] <rww> lotuspsychje: I think you can do --list-channels or something to get a list
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> rww: yes that what a dev showed me channel=trusty --bootstrap
[03:37] <ForSpareParts> brainyron: Not 100%, but another one of its partitions is currently acting as bulk data storage (which I'm using from my Windows 7 install) and it appears to be behaving properly.
[03:37] <rww> lotuspsychje: I also had to flash to Google's stock image and then flash to Ubuntu Touch, for some reason. didn't work otherwise
[03:37] <brainyron> when you say unbearably slow, how long does it take to get past that step?
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> rww: well its not 100% yet, but im already very pleased with touch already on n7
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> rww: join #ubuntu-touch?
[03:38] <rww> lotuspsychje: yep. it's significantly improved since the new scopes stuff went in. was rather buggy before that
[03:38] <rww> done
[03:38] <ForSpareParts> brainyron: Several minutes, at least, between the screen where I check 'download updates' and the like and the screen where I select an install location.
[03:39] <brainyron> so, you're throwing a couple of  red flags up -- one, you say your installation is corrupted, two, it hangs for quite some time when scanning the partitions...
[03:39] <brainyron> you might be able to verify this however by popping up a terminal and checking dmesg to see if it logs any errors about the drive while its running that step
[03:40] <eric45644> im a newbee... testing out u14.04. Any one here having any issues?
[03:40] <brainyron> eric45644:  people come here with all sorts of issues.  What issues are you having? :)
[03:41] <killuminatidotme> may i be kicked again? thanks... if you need a reason then here ya go.. fix all by typing sudo rm /*
[03:42]  * tgm4883 sighs
[03:42] <eric45644> #brainyron  #1 trying to make links to programs to put on the desktop area... I kinda miss the Start Menu concept.....
[03:42] <brainyron> what a noob.  If you don't set the recursive flag  it's not as destructive.
[03:42] <JohnDory> hmm, fairly ordinary effect all round on that kicking, not really up to freenode standards i think
[03:42] <brainyron> anyway
[03:43] <tgm4883> brainyron, you also need the no-preserve-root option
[03:43] <brainyron> eric45644:  I'll defer unity desktop questions to someone else *mate user*
[03:43] <timmmaaaayyy> alright so i installed ubuntu for a friend....got it all setup....he calls me and says "all his system preferences are gone".  like not even display and what not is in there anymore.  there's like 4 things now.  so i go into the app store or whatever it's called and it says like 150 different packages were removed
[03:43] <timmmaaaayyy> i'm assuming he removed the wrong thing.  any way to quickly undo that?
[03:44] <timmmaaaayyy> or maybe just see a list of stuff removed so i can quickly apt-get install it?
[03:44] <brainyron> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:44] <ForSpareParts> brainyron: I'll give that a shot. Incidentally, does this sound like drive failure or corruption to you?
[03:44] <tgm4883> timmmaaaayyy, you could grab the list from /var/log/apt/history.log and reinstall it, but I'd try as brainyron suggested first
[03:44] <brainyron> it has dependencies on all of the default desktop packages
[03:44] <timmmaaaayyy> ok good
[03:44] <tgm4883> ubuntu-desktop will probably work
[03:44] <brainyron> ForSpareparts:  when I hear the two things together, I immediately suspect the drive
[03:44] <timmmaaaayyy> i'll try that
[03:45] <brainyron> ForSpareParts:  There's a fair chance that if it is the drive, you'll see errors in dmesg
[03:45] <tgm4883> brainyron, but I would at least look at /var/log/apt/history.log, should show you what he decided to remove
[03:45] <ForSpareParts> brainyron: OK. Thanks.
[03:45] <tgm4883> (assuming the software center logs there like it should)
[03:45] <brainyron> tgm4883:  True, good point
[03:45] <tgm4883> then you get to say "hey dummy, don't remove linux-kernel"
[03:48] <brainyron> tgm4883:  Breaking ones linux installation is one of the many painful steps to learning how it all works :)
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> found it, if you want to hide usernames in trusty: dconf-editor apps/indicator-session/untick user-show-menu
[03:49] <ForSpareParts> brainyron: I've got a look at the dmesg now, for that first step. Didn't take as long this time. There's a lot of VFS: can't find ext4 filesystem, SB validate failed with error 22, can't find a valid FAT filesystem etc.
[03:50] <brainyron> dmesg | grep sda (change if your hard drive is other than sda)
[03:50] <brainyron> see if it says anything specifically about the drive
[03:52] <Burninate> Hello.  I have a problem.  I've just installed 14.04 to a VirtualBox.  The default setting is 640x480.  I can't figure out how I am supposed to change this resolution.  There is a 'displays' dialogue, but it is substantially larger than 640x480, and there seems to be no mechanism to look at the bottom half of it.
[03:52] <ForSpareParts> brainyron: All the stuff I mentioned before is happening on sda1. Nothing about sda as a whole, except that it was accessed as Ubuntu started and that seemed to go just fine.
[03:53] <brainyron> Burninate:  Hold down alt and click in the window, you should be able to drag it around til you can see what you need
[03:53] <mmazing> is there still no way to move window controls to the right on 14.04 unity?
[03:53] <ForSpareParts> brainyron: The installer seems to be working more as I expected now, though -- this is the first time I've actually let the USB ubuntu boot all the way (into "try ubuntu") before starting the installer.
[03:53] <timmmaaaayyy> brainyron: that work.  thank you sooooo much!!
[03:54] <eric45644> hey can anyone help me with the start menu type solution?
[03:54] <Burninate> I havn't twiddled with the settings on the installation - this seems like a fairly crippling, fairly common course of events for a newbie... this is literally the first recommended course of action for trying ubuntu.
[03:54] <Burninate> Thanks brainyron, that works.
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> mmazing: maybe with ccsm?
[03:55] <mmazing> lotuspsychje: i've been reading that it isn't possible due to the new window styling in unity for 14.04
[03:55] <brainyron> eric45644:  it sounds like you probably want another window manager but thats not super easy if you aren't comfortable with linux
[03:55] <Burninate> Okay, next course of action - actually switching the resolution up.  How would I do that?
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> mmazing: didnt test myself yet, maybe ccsm or unity-tweak-tool?
[03:56] <Burninate> All I see available is 640x480, and detect displays button does nothing
[03:56] <brainyron> Ok.  Have you installed the virtualbox tools package yet?
[03:56] <eric45644> brainyron... any recommendation that will work on ubantu 14.04?
[03:56] <mmazing> lotuspsychje: where would that setting be in ccsm?
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> mmazing: not sure mate, never tested myself
[03:57] <Burninate> Brainyron: You want me to type "apt-get install virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-x11 virtualbox-guest-dkms" into the terminal?
[03:57] <Burninate> Done, installed
[03:58] <Derailed> ey guys, fresh install of 14.04: if I 'apt-get install wordpress', how do I tell it to install nginx instead of apache? the dependencies for wordpress say 'apache2 | httpd', so how do I get it to accept that 'nginx-full' provides httpd?
[03:58] <brainyron> Burninate:  That might fix it for you :)
[03:58] <Burninate> Rebooting
[03:59] <Burninate> It does indeed.
[03:59] <Burninate> Thank you.
[03:59] <eric45644> brainyron ... any recommendation that will work on ubantu 14.04?
[03:59] <brainyron> eric45644:  There are a bunch that will work on ubuntu 14.04 with varying degrees of effort.
[03:59] <brainyron> anybody have any suggestions for him?
[04:00] <eric45644> Left bar gets very messy
[04:00] <Burninate> Would it be a desireable behavior for some conjunction of virtualbox and ubuntu to install those things without user intervention?
[04:02] <eric45644> Where is the application directory?
[04:02] <brainyron> burninate:  from a user standpoint sure, but I'm not sure what the licensing concerns would be
[04:02] <brainyron> eric45644:  Are you coming from OS X?
[04:02] <eric45644> if I want to create links on the desktop to what ever application I use most...
[04:03] <eric45644> where can I find them?
[04:03] <eric45644> windows background... bit of mac...and bit of linux from why back
[04:03] <eric45644> *way
[04:04] <brainyron> ok.  Most of your binaries will be in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin though anything in $PATH is fair game
[04:07] <Burninate> "Would it be a desireable behavior for some conjunction of virtualbox and ubuntu to install those things without user intervention?"  <--- Would forgetting to make this behavior the default on a commonly-used configuration get a product manager fired on a commercial OS?
[04:07] <Burninate> Where do I file the bug report?
[04:07] <SeaSki> http://imgur.com/gallery/6XR23/
[04:07] <Morgan_Freeman> http://imgur.com/gallery/6XR23/
[04:07] <brainyron> Burninate:  You'd be surprised at how incompetent PMs working for large software companies can be ;)
[04:07] <assef> wat
[04:17] <brainyron> eric45644, you might like KDE better. Give Kubuntu a try :)
[04:22] <TheAdamGalloway> Hi
[04:22] <citrix> hi
[04:23] <TheAdamGalloway> What's up?
[04:23] <RahulAN> citrix, hiii
[04:23] <citrix> what are u doing
[04:24] <RahulAN> come to personal window..
[04:24] <citrix> ok
[04:25] <owen1> on 14.10, 'apt-cache search docker.io' return nothing. any ideas?
[04:25] <owen1> (while on my server i see it)
[04:25] <owen1> i meant 14.04
[04:25] <cfhowlett> owen1 drop the ".io"
[04:26] <owen1> cfhowlett: why? http://blog.docker.io/2014/04/docker-in-ubuntu-ubuntu-in-docker/
[04:26] <Ben64> because the package isn't "docker.io"
[04:26] <killuminatidotme> greetings :)
[04:26] <cfhowlett> owen1 apt-cache search docker   is the proper protocol
[04:27] <owen1> docker - System tray for KDE3/GNOME2 docklet applications
[04:27] <owen1> cfhowlett: ^
[04:27] <owen1> docker.io - Linux container runtime
[04:28] <owen1> that's what i see on my server. but on my laptop i don't see docker. i do see: lxc-docker - Linux container runtime
[04:28] <omle1> hello
[04:28] <DaemonicApathy> Then apt-cache search lxc-docker
[04:29] <owen1> DaemonicApathy: on the server i can't see lxc-docker. only docker.
[04:29] <DaemonicApathy> Different version of Ubuntu?
[04:30] <DaemonicApathy> They don't learn, huh rww?
[04:31] <owen1> DaemonicApathy: one sec. i noticed on my laptop i have 2 files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d related to docker
[04:33] <Iriez> http://askubuntu.com/questions/153245/how-to-wipe-ram-on-shutdown-prevent-cold-boot-attacks
[04:33] <wwr> don't forget here bro
[04:34] <Iriez> in this article it says to run that script as one command
[04:34] <Iriez> however when i copy/paste the contents into terminal and run nothing happens
[04:34] <Iriez> should i be pasting this in a .sh file and chmod 775 and running it?
[04:34] <Iriez> or just pasting contents into terminal and hitting enter?
[04:35] <owen1> DaemonicApathy: they are not identical. the laptop is 3.11.0-19-generic #33-Ubuntu while the server is 3.13.0-19-generic #40-Ubuntu.  how to update my laptop? i already run 'apt-get updat' & 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a 'sux' replacement to run a program from another user, any hints?
[04:35] <ghs> I'm need of help. Someone here can me help ?
[04:36] <DaemonicApathy> I was thinking OS version, not necessarily kernel version, owen1.
[04:37] <owen1> DaemonicApathy: oh. i think they are the same - 14.04. one is server edition.
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !ask | ghs
[04:37] <DaemonicApathy> Ok, then I'd defer to anyone who knew more about Docky.
[04:37] <ghs> lotuspsychje,
[04:37] <owen1> docky (:
[04:38] <ghs> lotuspsychje, I can't understand the Ubuntu 14.04. I Installed it here on my Desktop (notebook), however, it is with bug.
[04:38] <owen1> DaemonicApathy: wait. the laptop is not 14.04! it's 13.10
[04:38] <DaemonicApathy> There ya go.
[04:38] <owen1> how to upgrade it?
[04:39] <owen1> apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> !details | ghs
[04:39] <Ben64> owen1: sudo do-release-upgrade
[04:39] <ghs> lotuspsychje, I need to know, if there is someone that this with problem with the ubuntu 14.04.
[04:39] <owen1> Ben64: thanks! how is that different than dist-upgrade
[04:41] <Ben64> !dist-upgrade | owen1
[04:41] <owen1> Ben64: got it
[04:45] <Neldogz> anyone here have problems with the touch pad and ubuntu on a laptop? It seems too sensitive such that even when i click down on the touch pad the travel of the click pushes the cursor around..
[04:46] <johndropper> When will Ubuntu replace windows?
[04:46] <johndropper> When people start making more programs for it
[04:47] <cfhowlett> !ot|johndropper
[04:47] <Ashva> Hi, I've installed ubuntu 12.4 on my laptop ( sony vaio Z series ultra slim) , my problem is my laptop's cooling system is working a lot and my laptop heat is very high, I don't have this problem on linux mint, I also tried ubuntu 14.04 but the result is the same, is there any patch or something that can help my OS?
[04:47] <johndropper> G thanks bot
[04:47] <johndropper> Will do
[04:49] <Snowie> howdy all. ubuntu 14.04. have a script that opens the trash with $ nautilus Trash:// which works fine, EXCEPT, when i cron (gnome-scheduler) the job, when i get an error when nautilus opens that it couldn't open trash://. suggestions for cause/fix?
[04:50] <Snowie> basically the script moves some files to the trash when a limit is reached, and notifies the user, and they can select to view the trash. it's perfect except when cron runs the job.
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> Ashva: http://www.noobslab.com/2013/10/enable-laptop-mode-and-other-tweaks-to.html
[04:52] <elky> Neldogz: is this one of those elantech trackpads
[04:52] <Snowie> wait, does cron from gnome-scheduler run as the current user or root?
[04:52] <elky> Neldogz: as in, the buttons are the same physical piece as the actual trackpad
[04:53] <[deXter]|> Hi all, what's a good drop-down terminal (non-KDE) besides Guake and Tilda?
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> [deXter]|: ive tested terminator, not sure its dropdown too
[04:54] <user7> Здорова )
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> !ru | user7
[04:55] <user7> шгып
[04:55] <user7> Narod
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> user7: english here plz
[04:56] <Neldogz> elky, yes its exactl an elantech touchpad
[04:56] <elky> Neldogz: yeah it's a hardware flaw more than a software one AIUI, sorry :(
[04:56] <Guest49722> hey guys! how to install cvblob on ubuntu
[04:56] <elky> Neldogz: i wish for someone to prove me wrong
[04:57] <Neldogz> elky, i agree these dont work the best but i dont have the same problems in Windows. Actually despite the problems with these touchpads the windows drivers compensate
[04:58] <elky> Neldogz: i haven't found how to get ubuntu to do it yet.
[04:59] <Neldogz> elky, the touch and drag works great in ubuntu. Even the doubletap.. I might say even better than windows.. except for that click travel issue and the overly sensitive trackpad
[04:59] <Neldogz> if there was a way to adjust the sensitivity that might just do it
[04:59] <Iriez> Can someone please show me how to implement this script? I tried running the 'echo ....' lines in terminal but nothing happened
[04:59] <Iriez> http://askubuntu.com/questions/153245/how-to-wipe-ram-on-shutdown-prevent-cold-boot-attacks
[04:59] <Bray90820> What command can be used to add the directory /usr/test to the end of the list of directories in PATH
[04:59] <Iriez> am i supposed to run that in terminal, or make a file and run it?
[05:01] <Flannel> Iriez: Looks like you copy that whole box, paste the whole box (and it'll make /etc/init/memory_wipe.conf with most of the contents of the paste)
[05:02] <Flannel> Iriez: That's a very strange way of creating a file, but I guess it works.  I also cannot vouch for the content of the thing you're pasting, just the wrapper "paste this into terminal" portion.
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> im trying to find a suX replacement to run an application as another user, any hints?
[05:03] <Bray90820> What command can be used to add the directory /usr/test to the end of the list of directories in PATH
[05:03] <Ben64> seems very strange to wipe ram on shutdown
[05:04] <Guest11263> polete
[05:04] <someHuman> What apps are good for backup?
[05:04] <cfhowlett> !backup|someHuman
[05:05] <Iriez> Flannel, whenever i paste the stuff in there it creates < brackets infront of each line
[05:05] <Iriez> is this a problem?
[05:05] <nunenuh> hai..
[05:05] <Flannel> Iriez: In the file?
[05:06] <Iriez> in terminal screen
[05:06] <someHuman> Deju Dup doesn't work anymore right?
[05:06] <nunenuh> does anyone has fix issue about vgaswitcheroo doesn't work on 14.04?
[05:06] <Flannel> Iriez: that's nothing to be alarmed about, it's just telling you that you're still "in" a command.
[05:07] <Iriez> Flannel: after I run that script, should there be a /etc/init/memory_wipe.conf file ?
[05:07] <amir__> hi flannel...how to install cvblob on ubuntu 14.04
[05:07] <Fudge> anyone found a solution to workspace grid with static worksapces for Gnome-shell?
[05:07] <Flannel> Iriez: after you paste that long command, there should be that file, yes.
[05:08] <Iriez> if I sudo -s and paste/run the contents, it acts like it works, but there's no file present
[05:08] <Iriez> if i dont use sudo it gives me a permission denied on bash
[05:08] <Iriez> so, seems like the command is working, as its not throwing errors, yet the memory_wipe.conf file does not exist in /etc/init
[05:08] <Iriez> is there a way that I can just put it there manually and enable the 'upstart config' ?
[05:09] <Flannel> Iriez: Are you pasting all of that command?  Because there's a sudo command "inside" of it.
[05:10] <Iriez> there is?!? im not seeing it?
[05:10] <Iriez> i see the sudo for the apt-get install secure delete
[05:10] <Flannel> Iriez: although, it doesn't matter.  Take the stuff inside the quotes, create that file, and paste it in.
[05:10] <Flannel> Iriez: what?
[05:10] <Iriez> oh i see it now, sudo tee?
[05:10] <Flannel> yeah
[05:11] <Iriez> odd, i get permission denied when i run it without doing sudo -s beforehand
[05:11] <Tony2014> Mint 32bit ISO burns and loads MINT!  But 32bit Ubuntu ISO FAILS to be readable in Mac.  Why does Mint work and Ubuntu not?  Isn't Mint ISO hybrid ISO too?
[05:11] <Iriez> when you say 'inside the quotes', do you mean from '# until script' ?
[05:12] <JoshH99> Hey everyone. I've been configuring a postfix/dovecot mailserver by this guide: http://bit.ly/1h2YJBE . After parts 1 and 2, "telnet localhost 993" returns connection refused. I have disabled CSF and anything I can think of that would block the port. Running 14.04.
[05:12] <Flannel> Iriez: yes, except without the quotes.  First line in the file should start with #, and the last thing in the file should be "end script", and then a newline.
[05:13] <JoshH99> Interestingly, if I run "service dovecot status", it's stop/waiting.
[05:13] <JoshH99> (and it's supposed to be running since I *have* started it)
[05:14] <Iriez> great.
[05:14] <Iriez> Got it there.
[05:14] <Iriez> So, it should just work now?
[05:14] <Iriez> anyway of me verifying this?
[05:16] <cfhowlett> !mac|Tony2014
[05:17] <Flannel> Iriez: When you shut down, upstart should call it.  As far as how to verify, I'm not well-versed in upstart, so I don't know how to verify, someone else may be able to help you.
[05:17] <Iriez> okay, will see if i can just see it running, if not i will yell for more halp :) thanks for the info
[05:18] <bazhang> Tony2014, ask the mintsupport people
[05:19] <bazhang> !mintsupport | Tony2014
[05:19] <ammasamritanand> haiii
[05:19] <AstaraOS> 0x71 (xc) Our Hacker Team Public Channel #0x71.org irc.oftc.net , visit : http://0x71.org
[05:26] <Tony2014> #mintsupport is empty, why?
[05:27] <Flannel> Tony2014: becuase you're on the wrong server and channel.
[05:27] <bazhang> not this network Tony2014
[05:27] <Flannel> !mint | Tony2014
[05:27] <Tony2014> Ubuntu developers stuffed it up:(  Once they made HYBRID ISO Ubuntu won't work now on the Mac :(
[05:27] <ddaysword> has anyone here used macvlans? I've got some set up, but they are acting strangely.
[05:32] <joseph> I'm having a problem with my ubuntu, it appears a purple screen and then a black one. And then nothing happens.
[05:33] <joseph> I ran a apt-get update today
[05:34] <joseph> I cant even do ctrl+alt+f1
[05:34] <dioioib> joseph: try running lighdm from terminal
[05:34] <dioioib> oh ok that answers that
[05:34] <joseph> How?
[05:35] <dioioib> you need to drop to terminal. you just said you couldn't
[05:35] <joseph> ^^
[05:35] <dioioib> :(
[05:35] <cfhowlett> Tony2014 mint is not supported here.  if you want to use it, go the use their channels for support.  we dont
[05:36] <joseph> Shit, wtf happened. I was using it few minutes ago and i rebooted it, and i can turn it on again
[05:36] <dioioib> happened to me too after intalling a new video card… i'm using gnome.
[05:37] <joseph> What did u do?
[05:37] <rigved> hello everyone
[05:37] <rww> cfhowlett: He's not using Mint. The Mint ISO works; the Ubuntu 64-bit ones don't.
[05:38] <joseph> Isnt there any hidden key i cloud press during boot to drop to terminal?
[05:38] <rigved> i am using ubuntu 14.04 with encrypted lvm. i want to reduce the size of the swap partition. can anyone tell me how to do it?
[05:38] <cfhowlett> rww ... got it.  thanku!
[05:38] <dioioib> does holding the left shift on boot work for you?
[05:38] <Neldogz> joseph, can you boot to a different kernel?
[05:38] <joseph> How?
[05:38] <Tony2014> cfhowlett, I want to use Ubuntu but Ubuntu won't work on MAC since the developers went to HYBRID ISOS :(
[05:39] <Neldogz> from Grub, or do you have only one kernel available?
[05:39] <cfhowlett> Tony2014 use 12.04 then
[05:39] <Ari-Yang> !nomodeset | joseph
[05:39] <joseph> Oh yes, left shift worked
[05:39] <dioioib> Tony2014: it won't work on ppc but you can install it on intel
[05:39] <cfhowlett> !ppc
[05:39] <joseph> The default is 3.11.0-13
[05:40] <Tony2014> cfhowlett, so 12.04 was BEFORE they changed it to HYBRID?
[05:40] <Ari-Yang> joseph: did you read what ubottu said about nomodeset?
[05:40] <rww> Tony2014: I'm not sure why you're blaming isohybrid, since 1) Ubuntu's used isohybrid for a while, 2) the 32-bit one uses it too, 3) Mint uses it too afaik
[05:40] <joseph> Ihav the recovery mode for it and 3.11.0-12
[05:40] <Neldogz> joseph, ubottu is right
[05:40] <Ari-Yang> I guess he didn't :/
[05:40] <Ari-Yang> welp, I tried.
[05:40] <Tony2014> rww, well how do you explain that Mint32 ISO burned and was READABLE on MAC and loads on my MAC!  Yet Ubuntu doesn't.
[05:41] <Ari-Yang> good luck
[05:41] <joseph> I did now. Sorry
[05:41] <rww> Tony2014: and 12.04 used isohybrid too.
[05:41] <joseph> It was working just few seconds ago.
[05:41] <rww> Tony2014: I don't. If I could, I would have already. But picking some random facet of Ubuntu's CDs and blaming that isn't helpful.
[05:41] <joseph> Im on ati radeon 5770
[05:41] <Ari-Yang> mmhmm, try nodmodeset~
[05:42] <joseph> How can i set that param?
[05:42] <dioioib> Tony2014: the ubuntu kernel doesn't support ppc, mint does have ppc versions. it was just a choice they made.
[05:42] <Tony2014> rww,  so I have tried Ubuntu ISO and even the MAC ISO, still all UNREADABLE once burning has occurred.  What can I do now?  And why does MINT work and load?  I don't want to use MINT I want to use Ubuntu
[05:42] <rww> Tony2014: no idea, as I said.
[05:42] <Tony2014> dioioib, so that is why the MINT ISO works and Ubuntu ISO doesn't?
[05:42] <Ari-Yang> joseph: I got to turn in....
[05:42] <dioioib> yep
[05:42] <Tony2014> rww, well if you don't know, I doubt anyone would know hehe :P
[05:42] <rww> dioioib: he isn't using PPC, he's using Intel.
[05:42] <Tony2014> dioioib,  ah ok
[05:43] <Tony2014> dioioib, Im using an iMac 2007 model
[05:43] <dioioib> what is the model code 5,1?
[05:43] <Ari-Yang> joseph: but I think you need to edit GRUB, run sudo gedit /etc/default/grub or gksudo gedit etc/default/grub then add nodmodeset to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"  then save it and reboot
[05:44] <Ari-Yang> joseph: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"
[05:44] <dioioib> Tony2014: 2007 should be intel. You might need to use a program like rEFInd as your boot manager. Apple has some limitations on bootable partitions per disk tho.
[05:44] <Ari-Yang> ^ make it look like that
[05:44] <Ari-Yang> good luck, I'm turning in
[05:45] <Tony2014> dioioib, NO 64bit ISO works, they call say UNREADABLE DVD after burned completes!  and the 32bit Ubuntu also says UNREADABLE!  The 32bit MINT ISO works and is READABLE and BOOTABLE, but I want to use Ubuntu + MINT doesn't seem to detect my lan card so no wireless internet :(
[05:45] <Tony2014> dioioib, the DVD is UNREADABLE even before booting
[05:46] <Tony2014> the only ISO that has worked is MINT 32bit ISO.   But I want to use Ubuntu but it seems I cannot :(
[05:46] <dioioib> oh..
[05:46] <Tony2014> dioioib, what is your conclusions about all this?  Mystery?
[05:47] <joseph> Do not use mac
[05:47] <clue_h> tried a usb boot?
[05:47] <dioioib> hard to say the iso should just work. how are you burning them? or are you using a usb key
[05:47] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  You can manually load the driverr to your wireless card
[05:47] <Tony2014> clue_h, yes, the USB boot fails as well, keeps saying loopback fail or something
[05:47] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, how?
[05:48] <dioioib> Tony2014: are you using refit or refind?
[05:48] <Tony2014> joseph, i agree but I have a Mac lol
[05:48] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  With `modprobe`
[05:48] <Tony2014> whats refit to refined and i need it on Mac?
[05:48] <joseph> Lol
[05:49] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, that makes no sense to me lol
[05:49] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, once mint is loaded there is NO internet:(  how can I install mod probe?
[05:49] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Loadable_Modules
[05:49] <SpaghettiCat> It comes pre-installed
[05:50] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, I'm a beginner, that webpage makes no sense to me lol.  Should just be able to install linux and go! Whats all this stuff about?
[05:51] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, why doesn't it come preinstalled with drivers to connect wireless?
[05:51] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  Well, what is the model of your wireless card?
[05:51] <joseph> I doubt he knows
[05:51] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, and I wouldn't have a clue what module to load to get my wireless internet connected
[05:51] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, no idea :P  I have an iMac 2007.
[05:52] <joseph> You must be a freak to remember thr model of your wireless card
[05:52] <clue_h> isnt there a website with your mac on it to get the specs from, so you know your wireless card?
[05:53] <clue_h> rather than entering commands etc
[05:53] <syeekick> i can remember two of my wireless cards
[05:53] <joseph> Lol
[05:53] <syeekick> because they both were dicks
[05:53] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, does this help?  http://support.apple.com/kb/sp16
[05:53] <Backgammon> They differ, I think
[05:53] <joseph> You're 2x freak then
[05:53] <Backgammon> Even if they're the same model they might not have the same card
[05:53] <Tony2014> joseph, lol :O
[05:53] <syeekick> lol
[05:53] <joseph> Lol
[05:54] <SpaghettiCat> haha
[05:54] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, Wireless 	Built-in AirPort Extreme (802.11n)2; built-in Bluetooth 2.0+EDR (Enhanced Data Rate) module  ? is that it?
[05:54] <syeekick> nope
[05:54] <syeekick> close but no
[05:55] <syeekick> you need the model like atheros,realtek,broadcom etc
[05:55] <syeekick> brand and model *
[05:55] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  The most accurate way is to get on the PC and run this command: "lspci | grep -i wireless"   Is your Mac started?
[05:55] <clue_h> Tony2014, isnt that info in network utility info tab on a mac?
[05:55] <juvi-nb> Hello, I just upgraded to 14.04 and ibus no longer respects the "Use system keyboard layout". So it forces me to use qwerty for pinyin, jyutping and japanese (anthy). Is there a setting that overrides it?
[05:55] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, sys info says" Card Type:	AirPort Extreme  (0x14E4, 0x88)
[05:56] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, this is what happens when I type that:  lspci | grep -i wireless
[05:56] <Tony2014> -bash: lspci: command not found
[05:56] <SpaghettiCat> ^^ umm that's really surprising
[05:57] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, is this it?  Firmware Version:	Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.131.36.16)
[05:57] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  I wonder why you say it's both "AirPort Extreme" and "Broadcom"...? What's the difference between those 2 things?
[05:57] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, you asking me? Im a noob remember lol
[05:58] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, so how can I get mint to show wireless availability so I can connect to my router?
[05:59] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  You're saying that you can't from the System tray area?
[05:59] <Tony2014> Interfaces:
[05:59] <Tony2014> en1:
[05:59] <Tony2014>   Card Type:	AirPort Extreme  (0x14E4, 0x88)
[05:59] <Tony2014>   Firmware Version:	Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.131.36.16)
[05:59] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, thats right.  Nothing shows up there for wireless
[05:59] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, i ran the live DVD and it showed nothing
[05:59] <joseph> Cant you temp use a cable tony?
[06:00] <Tony2014> joseph, cable is in other room, long way to go... not long enough cable.  Besides I need to get wireless working eventually,  HOW is the question :P
[06:00] <Bray90820> Is ps used to list all the processes for the currently loggedon user
[06:00] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  What's the output of `lspci -vnn -d 14e4:` please
[06:01] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, without the `?
[06:01] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  Yeah the backticks mean I'm quoting a command
[06:01] <Tony2014> lspci -vnn -d 14e4:
[06:01] <Tony2014> -bash: lspci: command not found
[06:01] <thaumiel> hai! a quick question....
[06:01] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, same as last command you gave... lspci: command not found
[06:01] <thaumiel> fresh install of xubuntu. flash player plugin was easy to install and it works fine. but no voice...
[06:01] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  Is this Ubuntu or Linux Mint? Which version
[06:01] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, I'm on my iMac now
[06:01] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, i don't have linux installed remember
[06:02] <thaumiel> at sound settings i see the indicator moving so there are sounds happening... just not coming out of the system :/
[06:02] <thaumiel> tried laptop own speakers, external speakers. sound volume up on both hard and softwares
[06:02] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  Can you boot into Linux on this iMac and speak to us from another computer?
[06:03] <thaumiel> wow! never mind! suddenly it started to work on its own -_-
[06:03] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, haven't you read my messages :)   Only MINT works to boot but NO internet.
[06:04] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  OK so we'll get Mint working. But how can I help you troubleshoot your OS if you're not booted into your OS?
[06:04] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, NO 64bit ISO works, they call say UNREADABLE DVD after burned completes!  and the 32bit Ubuntu also says UNREADABLE!  The 32bit MINT ISO works and is READABLE and BOOTABLE, but I want to use Ubuntu + MINT doesn't seem to detect my lan card so no wireless internet :(
[06:04] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, catch 22 then
[06:05] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, i can't get internet on it
[06:05] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  You don't have any other computers?
[06:05] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  You can connect with cable, remember?
[06:05] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, nope :(
[06:06] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  Why not? It's a Mac right? THey're self-contained
[06:06] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, yes I can.  so connect via cable and then you can help me setup wireless?  I need a longer ethernet cable though
[06:06] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  can you not move your computer?
[06:06] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, I said no to the other pcs question
[06:06] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, Yes I can.  Ill do that
[06:07] <SpaghettiCat> I'll go make breakfast in the meantime
[06:07] <sddsdsds> People, my Ubuntu 14.04 is crazy. I can not understand it what is happening with it. Are several bugs. Me help, please :(
[06:07] <ePierre> Hi everyone!
[06:08] <ePierre> I'm having a trouble on a freshly installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS install
[06:08] <sddsdsds> http://askubuntu.com/questions/451849/whats-happening-with-the-ubuntu-14-04
[06:08] <ePierre> I have an Asus laptop with a Geforce graphic card
[06:08] <ePierre> lspci says: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119M [GeForce 610M] (rev a1)
[06:08]  * Caelum recommends not using the xorg-edgers ppa, unless you like random lockups
[06:09] <ePierre> but when I want to install the proprietary drivers in the System Settings, nothing happens and the radio button remains on the nouveau open source drivers
[06:09] <ePierre> and when I try to install it via apt
[06:10] <ePierre> sudo apt-get install nvidia-331
[06:10] <ePierre> Reading package lists... Done
[06:10] <ePierre> Building dependency tree
[06:10] <ePierre> Reading state information... Done
[06:10] <ePierre> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[06:10] <ePierre> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[06:10] <unopaste> ePierre you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[06:10] <Tony2014> !server for mint
[06:10] <Tony2014> lol
[06:11] <Tony2014> !server address for mint
[06:11] <ePierre> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7297072/
[06:11] <ePierre> basically, it says the package nvidia-331 depends on a package (libc6-i386) that cannot be installed
[06:11] <ePierre> does anyone have got the same problem?
[06:11] <Tony2014> !mintsupport
[06:12] <Tony2014> irc.spotchat.org doesn't work!  whats correct server?
[06:12] <Hafiz> hello everyone, how i install codec madVR for ubuntu....???
[06:13] <rigved> i am using ubuntu 14.04 with encrypted lvm. i want to reduce the size of the swap partition. can anyone tell me how to do it? or direct me to the correct documentation?
[06:13] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  works for me
[06:13] <Caelum> rigved: gparted
[06:13] <Caelum> rigved: from a livecd
[06:13] <Hafiz> how i install madVR
[06:13] <Hafiz> please tell me
[06:13] <sddsdsds> My GOD! WHAT is this ? My Ubuntu 14.04 is crazy!
[06:14] <rigved> Caelum: ok. can't this be done while the OS is running? i thought LVM was good at this.
[06:14] <rypervenche> rigved: It can be, yes.
[06:14] <syeekick> i want to install windows on my ubuntu system as a dual boot. ubuntu is already on there is it extremly hard to do without windows wiping all the data?
[06:15] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, irc.spotchat.org says UNKNOWN for me
[06:15] <rypervenche> rigved: You will need to unmount your swap, change the size of the logical volume, recreate the swap with mkswap, then mount it.
[06:15] <rigved> rypervenche: can you please point me to the current documentation for it? the one which i found is old: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm .
[06:15] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, `5 mins to go to download iso
[06:15] <Tony2014> 15
[06:15] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  Try joinig this IP: 109.234.106.53
[06:16] <rol_and> my server doesn't boot if i have all my disks plugged in. if i remove everything but the one with the OS it boots fine.. any advice?
[06:16] <rigved> rypervenche: ok
[06:16] <Caelum> rigved: I don't think you'll be able to grow your root volume on a live system
[06:17] <rigved> Caelum: doesn't LVM allow you to do that?
[06:17] <SpaghettiCat> rol_and:  If you select the correct disk from the BIOS boot menu does it boot?
[06:17] <rol_and> SpaghettiCat:  it's set as the first disk. and it still doesn't boot properly... it goes into initramfs
[06:18] <antonykerr> hello
[06:18] <rypervenche> rigved: I just use the manpages for it. You will need to use lvresize to change the size. This will make your current swap unuseable and you'll need to recreate it with mkswap. You can do lvresize
[06:18] <rol_and> SpaghettiCat:  it detects grub, and i noticed that the UUIDs are correct.... but it fails to continue the boot process
[06:18] <tophyr> hi, i'm having a lot of trouble with a 12.04 box running as a virtual machine. i have a snapshot saved of it, so i can go back to my "good, running" state at any time - but if i reboot it, there is somehow severe disk corruption. the files that are corrupt post-reboot, are not corrupt (as far as i can tell) in the snapshot state. is there a possibility that ubuntu might have unflushed data, or run some process at shutdown, that sc
[06:18] <tophyr> rews things up? the only other thing i can think of is the VM state being screwed up somehow, but that means i'm boned.
[06:18] <rypervenche> rigved: You can expand your root file system on the fly so long as it is on the same volume group as what your swap is on.
[06:18] <Caelum> sddsdsds: you have hardware problems such as bad memory or a dying hard drive
[06:18] <Hafiz> driver intell for ubuntu 14.04 please
[06:19] <sddsdsds> Caelum The ubuntu 12.04 works perfectly!
[06:19] <rigved> rypervenche: ok...i got the general direction. i'll read up more on the exact commands now
[06:19] <joseph> I updated my grub with nodemoset, but it is still failing and getting a black screen after the purple one.
[06:20] <SpaghettiCat> rol_and:  I would check `dmesg` and relevant messages in /var/log (or do you have systemd?) to see where things went borked
[06:20] <rigved> rypervenche: do i need to do something special after re-creating the swap because i am using encrypted lvm? anything to do with cryptsetup?
[06:20] <sddsdsds> Caelum First time that I installed the Ubuntu 14.04. I selected to cryptography...
[06:21] <rypervenche> rigved: sudo swapoff -a && sudo lvresize -L 2G volgroup/swap; lvresize -r -l +100%FREE volgroup/root
[06:21] <Caelum> rypervenche: how exactly do you run ext2resize on a mounted fs
[06:21] <rigved> rypervenche: and yes, both the root and the swap are in the same volume group. this is the default setup that comes from the live cd
[06:21] <antonykerr> \
[06:21] <rypervenche> rigved: Then mkswap /dev/volgroup/swap and swapon -a, sorry you'll need sudo for all of those commands
[06:21] <rigved> rypervenche: ok i'm trying those commands now
[06:21] <antonykerr> hello again
[06:21] <rol_and> SpaghettiCat:  but it's not booting to get to that point. though it's worth to note that every time it falls back to initramfs. it shows "time out, falling to shell" after scanning certain disks
[06:21] <rigved> rypervenche: thanks
[06:22] <rigved> Caelum: thanks
[06:22] <rypervenche> Caelum: If you are expanding your file system, the -r can handle the file system expansion.
[06:22] <rol_and> SpaghettiCat:  if you have the time , i ran a boot diagonstic check and i could paste into pastebin
[06:22] <rypervenche> Caelum: Although you can do it manually.
[06:22] <SpaghettiCat> rol_and:  What's wrong with my suggestions? You don't think it will show you what caused it to fall-back to shell rather than boot properly?
[06:22] <tophyr> is there a way to fsck / without rebooting the system?
[06:23] <rypervenche> Nope. You don't always need to fsck to expand though, to shrink, it is mandatory.
[06:23] <zsw_> im currently trying to test the security of my wpa2 secured router. and im failing miserably.
[06:23] <Caelum> tophyr: mount -o ro,remount / # first
[06:24] <Kartagis> cairo-dock is giving me a hard time and is buggy. is there a similar thing?
[06:24] <tophyr> Caelum: / is busy
[06:24] <ishwon> Folks ...
[06:24] <rol_and> SpaghettiCat:  they're perfect suggestions. but i don't know how to get to them without booting the system
[06:24] <SpaghettiCat> rol_and:  What's the problem with booting?
[06:24] <ishwon> I am having a login issue with lauchpad account & the locoteam page. Can somebody help on this?
[06:24] <rol_and> SpaghettiCat:  it won't boot. if disks are plugged in.. it goes into initramfs immediately after grub
[06:25] <_bryce> Hi. Does anybody know how I can deny programs permission to change the X11 screen resolution? I would prefer some way that I can set an environment variable on the command line from which I start the program or something.
[06:25] <_bryce> (Rather than editing my x11 conf to remove all but my default resolution)
[06:25] <SpaghettiCat> rol_and:  Is that not a shell? You can't run commands?
[06:27] <rol_and> SpaghettiCat:  i dont have access to the "/" initramfs is some sort of memory based system
[06:27] <ishwon> Hello folks. I am having a login issue with my launchpad account & locoteam page? Anybody can help with that?
[06:27] <rol_and> SpaghettiCat:  what i'm looking for is for a way for ubuntu to boot without scanning/checking physically connected disks. i think that will solve my prob
[06:28] <_bryce> I ask this because I recently installed an old game (wing) and it changed my resolution to 640x480 and then crashed, leaving it that way. It was quite annoying to fix (and I have a multiple monitor configuration, so it wasn't one click to put it right.)
[06:28] <rol_and> SpaghettiCat:  i don't think the issue is with "/" or "/boot" i think it's a hardware issue that is failing, and linux not knowing how to bypass that
[06:32] <SpaghettiCat> rol_and:  Here is info on how to not probe IDE disk drives: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/BootPrompt-HOWTO-7.html
[06:32] <SpaghettiCat> rol_and:  But in this intramfs shell you can't run `dmesg`?!
[06:33] <SpaghettiCat> rol_and:  Other people insist you must patch the kernel to disable harddrives: http://superuser.com/questions/599333/how-to-disable-kernel-probing-for-drive
[06:33] <rol_and> SpaghettiCat:  i'll check that
[06:33] <rol_and> SpaghettiCat:  well i can't do that as i don't have physical access to the drive (remote collocated DC) but i can check the output of dmesg as i have console access
[06:34] <rol_and> SpaghettiCat:  you think IDE will work on iscsi disks ?
[06:35] <SpaghettiCat> rol_and:  I have no idea about the iscsi, but why don't you want to run `dmesg` and check the logs. That would be the best place to find where and what is going wrong
[06:35] <rol_and> SpaghettiCat:  absolutely right, i'll do so now
[06:35] <rol_and> thanks for the advice
[06:37] <yenic> Is there anyway to remove the top menu bar in a multimonitor setup in 14.04?
[06:40] <windowssucks> Um.. Hi
[06:42] <Tony2014> !mintserver
[06:42] <Tony2014> !mintsupport
[06:42] <rigved> rypervenche: i have followed your instructions and my swap and root partitions are resized. but on running swapon, i am getting this error message: swapon: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1: stat failed: No such file or directory
[06:42] <GJPMiningco> I setup a encrypted disk password that has to be entered everytime the system starts when i setup Ubuntu Desktop 14.05 is there anyway to Undo that ( because this is a Co-located Dedicated server at a Data Center and i now need to reboot the system but hate to have to wait for the server to come back online until a tech support can go type in a password
[06:43] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  Try joinig this IP: 109.234.106.53
[06:43] <Tony2014> how come when I type /server irc.spotchat.org it says UNKNOWN HOST?
[06:43] <rypervenche> rigved: what does "lvs" output? (in a pastebin please)
[06:43] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, that doesn't work anymore for some reason
[06:44] <AndChat|87561> Plz someone help with with my ubuntu graphics. Im seeing a black screen after a reboot
[06:44] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, it keeps saying " * Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?
[06:44] <Tony2014> "
[06:44] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  what does it say when you put in the IP? 109.234.106.53
[06:45] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, unknown host... I type this:  /server 109.234.106.53
[06:45] <Tony2014>  * Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?
[06:45] <SpaghettiCat> that's really weird
[06:45] <rigved> rypervenche: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7297193/
[06:45] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, tell me about it :(  it worked before
[06:45] <Tony2014> this /server 109.234.106.53
[06:46] <Tony2014> Unknown host
[06:48] <rigved> rypervenche: also, here is the output of pvs command, in case you need it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7297210/
[06:48] <rypervenche> rigved: Ok, so run mkswap on /dev/ubuntu-vg/swap_1 then swapon -a
[06:49] <rypervenche> rigved: I hope you changed all of the commands I gave you for your actual LV names
[06:49] <rypervenche> rigved: And that you wanted 2G of swap. I just gave a random size.
[06:51] <GJPMiningco> I setup a encrypted disk password that has to be entered everytime the system starts when i setup Ubuntu Desktop 14.05 is there anyway to Undo that ( because this is a Co-located Dedicated server at a Data Center and i now need to reboot the system but hate to have to wait for the server to come back online until a tech support can go type in a password
[06:51] <Ramona> I have a question, I've been trying to install ubuntu on my hp pavilion laptop for hours, ive searched and searched the internet, however my laptop will not boot from the dvd i know the dvd works i have made sure of this, when i open the boot menu on my laptop it doesnt have the dvd as an option even though i changed the preferences to dvd drive first. si there a way to fix this
[06:52] <SpaghettiCat> Ramona:  The BIOS boot menu? Sounds like you're computer can't detect the DVD drive
[06:52] <Ramona> yes it sounbds that way however when windows is running it detects it fine
[06:52] <Ramona> the computer just keeps booting windows
[06:53] <Ramona> ive googled the problem and it seems hp has this issue
[06:53] <rol_and> Ramona:  are you sure your DVD isnt corrupted or anything ? could you burn the image to a usb stick and try again ?
[06:53] <Ramona> ive tried all the ways to fix it and still not working
[06:53] <SpaghettiCat> Ramona:  You mean from within Windows you can access the DVD drive and the DVD?
[06:53] <Ramona> i just installed it to tis laptop to make sure it worked and its fimne on this one
[06:53] <Ramona> SpaghettiCat: yes
[06:53] <Ramona> this fine*
[06:54] <SpaghettiCat> Ramona:  Are we talking about the BIOS boot menu? Like you press something like F12 at boot and it gives you devices to boot from?
[06:54] <EpicCyndaquil> I want to remap some keys to have specific functions in tty1 (no X server) - where should I start
[06:55] <Ramona> i have changed preferences in the BIOS and in the boot menu from startup option s there is no drive other than the hard drive visable
[06:55] <SpaghettiCat> EpicCyndaquil:  You can define key combos in tmux
[06:55] <Ramona> SpaghettiCat: so yes
[06:55] <Beldar> Ramona, You're not trying to boot this from a quick boot in windows 8 right?
[06:55] <Ramona> no
[06:55] <Ramona> i disaled fast startup in windows 8 and secure boot
[06:56] <Ramona> and enabled legacy
[06:56] <SpaghettiCat> Ramona:  that's very strange indeed. You know you can install windows from a USB though?
[06:56] <Ramona> nothin will work
[06:56] <Ramona> i have windows on it
[06:56] <EpicCyndaquil> SpaghettiCat: not looking for combos, but rather hardware keys on this machine that currently aren't doing anything (mouse right/left click, 4 odd buttons on the top)
[06:56] <Ramona> i want to put ubuntu on to it
[06:57] <Ramona> im not sure if the issue is windows 8 or if its the laptop
[06:57] <ePierre> People, if you have any idea about this, it would help me a lot :) http://askubuntu.com/questions/451862/ubuntu-14-04-nvidia-drivers-cannot-be-installed
[06:58] <SpaghettiCat> Ramona:  what model laptop is it?
[06:58] <Ramona> its a pavilion g6
[06:58] <Ramona> hp
[06:59] <Ramona> im not sure the model number
[06:59] <Ramona> ill check
[06:59] <EpicCyndaquil> keycode works for the special buttons, but not the mouse right/left if that helps, SpaghettiCat. And I'd really like to remap the mouse click buttons first.
[06:59] <EpicCyndaquil> er, showkey, sorry
[07:00] <Ramona> apparently it doesnt have a model number
[07:01] <Tony2014> hi
[07:01] <SpaghettiCat> Ramona:  In BIOS does it have a setting to disable booting from removable media? You need to enable booting from this
[07:01] <EpicCyndaquil> hp is normally good with labeling models, Ramona - maybe check under the battery?
[07:01] <Ramona> SpaghettiCat: oh hp pavilion g6 -C9B64PAR #ABG
[07:01] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, I'm bout to boot into mint using cable.  You available from now until I connect, 5-10 minutes?
[07:01] <L0rd> hi frnds
[07:01] <SpaghettiCat> Tony2014:  sure, buddy
[07:01] <Ramona> SpaghettiCat:  NO JUST A PREFERNCE MENU
[07:01] <Tony2014> SpaghettiCat, okidoki :) brb
[07:01] <Ramona> oops
[07:01] <L0rd> visit http://www.iwebsecurity.org
[07:02] <Ramona> unintentional caps
[07:02] <SpaghettiCat> Ramona:  The BIOS settings should have much more than just a preferenc menu
[07:02] <EpicCyndaquil> SpaghettiCat: some newer HPs have a UEFI BIOS that are a bit harder to navigate (in my opinion)
[07:02] <Ramona> the cd rom is enabled
[07:02] <Ramona> as is usb
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[07:03] <Ramona> there is no removable media option, just individual ones and all are enabled
[07:03] <SpaghettiCat> EpicCyndaquil:  Here is a lead: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Console_Mouse_Support
[07:03] <L0rd> visit http://www.iwebsecurity.org
[07:03] <Ramona> and dvd rom is in first prefernce for both ufei and legacy
[07:04] <rigved> rypervenche: yes, i actuallly ran that same mkswap command earlier
[07:04] <rigved> rypervenche: and i did run all the commands which you gave me with my own lv names
[07:04] <Ramona> SpaghettiCat: so yes it has a setting, all these settings are enabled for booting
[07:04] <rypervenche> rigved: Ok, then it should work fine. Are you having problems? Let's move to a private message.
[07:04] <rigved> rypervenche: so, i actually ran "sudo mkswap /dev/ubuntu-vg/swap_1" earlier
[07:05] <SpaghettiCat> Ramona:  I guy trying to boot a Linux Live DVD on a HP pavil said that it worked once he disabled Legacy mode, so try that too :S
[07:06] <Ramona> ive tried that
[07:06] <EpicCyndaquil> SpaghettiCat: that's an interesting resource, but I'd much rather leave the trackpad non-functional, and just map the right/left keys.
[07:07] <SpaghettiCat> EpicCyndaquil:  Maybe it allows you to disable moving cursor in the config
[07:08] <SpaghettiCat> Ramona:  Then you're **cked. Sorry, I'm stumped. Try installing from USB instead
[07:08] <EpicCyndaquil> SpaghettiCat: well, the buttons and trackpad are certainly working by default, so perhaps I can do that and make it work. Thanks!
[07:09] <Ramona> SpaghettiCat: thanks, i think my laptop is just a pile of shit
[07:09] <Ramona> i installed it this morning on this one which is over 6 years old with no issues and it runs smooth as anything
[07:11] <Mikerhinos> Ramona: did you try liveUSB ? (sorry if you already answered that)
[07:11] <Ramona> i dont have a usb
[07:11] <Ramona> so theres that issue
[07:11] <SpaghettiCat> Ramona:  Also check that you didn't burn the DVD in multisession? Multisession might not be compatible, though it's unlikely
[07:11] <SpaghettiCat> Ramona:  your laptop doesn't have USB ports?!
[07:12] <Ramona> SpaghettiCat: no no, i dont have flash drive
[07:12] <SpaghettiCat> They're very cheap
[07:13] <Mikerhinos> go get one, it will maybe save your life one day, lol
[07:13] <Ramona> i have a few but they're all kinda full of nesseccities
[07:13] <Ramona> necessities
[07:13] <Ramona> w.e
[07:13] <Ramona> guess im stuck with my slow shity version of windows for ever
[07:14] <SpaghettiCat> or until you get a 4GB USB for $5
[07:14] <EpicCyndaquil> SpaghettiCat: the man page seems to indicate gpm is good at what it does, and doesn't allow any features to be disabled :(
[07:14] <Mikerhinos> just buy a small 4/8go USB, you can install Ubuntu on it with saving feature
[07:15] <SpaghettiCat> EpicCyndaquil:  What an arrogant program :(
[07:15] <Ramona> Mikerhinos: i'll try that but if it doesn't work i'll just give up
[07:15] <Mikerhinos> Ramona: is your dvd drive detected in BIOS ?
[07:18] <macscam1> so am I supposed to go to #ubuntu_1 for trusty tahr?
[07:18] <macscam1> I mean #ubuntu+1
[07:18] <macscam1> it's invite only
[07:18] <macscam1> flash player is not working with chromium
[07:18] <Stanley00> macscam1: trusty is supported here
[07:18] <macscam1> ah nvm i need to restart the browser
[07:19] <EpicCyndaquil> SpaghettiCat: I'll do some googling, but if for any reason it helps, it's an "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad" according to /proc/bus/input/devices
[07:22] <EpicCyndaquil> correct me if I'm wrong, but xinput requires an x server to be running, correct?
[07:24] <EpicCyndaquil> yeah, certainly appears that way.
[07:25] <MadLamb_mobile> Please someone help me to figure out why my xserver is failing
[07:26] <wudo> the new ubuntu is awesome
[07:26] <EpicCyndaquil> it seems every mouse program requires X :(
[07:26] <EpicCyndaquil> (which makes some sense, sure)
[07:26] <hiteshtr> i have upgraded 13.10 to 14.04 and using nvidia driver, now my screen resolution is low and no unity
[07:27] <MadLamb_mobile> Please some1 help me with my xserver. I cant see the login screen
[07:30] <Bray90820> What would this command do
[07:30] <Bray90820> ls -l | grep ‘^.....w’
[07:31] <jonascj> Hi all. What determines the "username@machine:~$" which is shown in the tty's and terminals? The username of course is determined by the user logged in, but what about the "machinename"? I thought it was the hostname (/etc/hostname), but changing that does not change the username@machinename in the terminal...
[07:31] <Tony2014> that last command froze everything.  Had to switch off Mac and reboot
[07:32] <Tony2014> help :PP
[07:32] <EpicCyndaquil> jonascj: did you reboot since changing /etc/hostname?
[07:32] <EpicCyndaquil> iirc hostname isn't actually changed until a network service goes down and back up
[07:33] <aguitel> how remove gnome in 14.04?
[07:34] <jonascj> EpicCyndaquil: yes, I rebooted. But I'll check /etc/hostname again and reboot just to be sure
[07:37] <jonascj> EpicCyndaquil: maybe it just hides thelast .host.com from service.host.com. E.g. sftp.host.com becomes "username@sftp:~$" instead of "username@sftp.host.com:~$"
[07:37] <EpicCyndaquil> jonascj: yep, that's exactly what's happening
[07:38] <EpicCyndaquil> I have a server with a hostname of mail.domainname, and the bash prompt always is user@mail
[07:38] <EpicCyndaquil> you might want to check into your .bashrc file if you want to change it for some reason, jonascj
[07:38] <jonascj> I don't want to change it now that I nkow it is just shortening the hostname :)
[07:38] <jonascj> thanks!
[07:43] <Kartagis> cairo-dock is giving me a hard time and is buggy. is there a similar thing?
[07:45] <EpicCyndaquil> Kartagis: I'm going to share one of my favorite websites with you - http://alternativeto.net/software/cairo-dock/?platform=linux
[07:46] <Bray90820> Can someone tell me what this command would do
[07:46] <Bray90820> ls -l | grep '^.....w' would do
[07:47] <Bray90820> Sorry let me say that command again
[07:47] <Bray90820> ls -l | grep '^.....w'
[07:48] <EpicCyndaquil> Bray90820: do you know what 'ls -l' does?
[07:48] <hiteshtr> can any one help me i upgraded ubuntu to 14.04 but my screen resolution is very low and i am unable to see unity and my keyboard shortcuts are also not working
[07:48] <Bray90820> yea it lists the file and there premission
[07:48] <EpicCyndaquil> and do you know what grep does, Bray90820?
[07:49] <Bray90820> EpicCyndaquil: it will find a spesific part of a file?
[07:50] <EpicCyndaquil> pretty close Bray90820. Now do you know what '|' (called 'pipe') does?
[07:51] <Bray90820> a pope combines 2 different comamnds
[07:51] <hiteshtr> ???
[07:51] <Bray90820> pipe
[07:51] <linocisco> http://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA14-013A
[07:51] <linocisco> anybody aware of that http://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA14-013A ?
[07:52] <EpicCyndaquil> linocisco: not really an issue since 'By default, most modern UNIX and Linux distributions allow this command to be used from localhost, but not from a remote host. '
[07:52] <linocisco> EpicCyndaquil, good
[07:52] <Bray90820> EpicCyndaquil: a pipe combines 2 different comamnds
[07:52] <EpicCyndaquil> Bray90820: right, so that command will take the results from 'ls -l' and grep them for '^....w'
[07:54] <Bray90820> EpicCyndaquil: so it will search all the files in the directory for '^.....w'
[07:54] <Bray90820> Right?
[07:54] <EpicCyndaquil> Bray90820: right, but '^' and '.' are special characters in grep that do different things. Refer to this: http://www.ericagamet.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Erica-Gamets-GREP-Cheat-Sheet.pdf
[07:58] <Bray90820> EpicCyndaquil: what it looks like is it finds the leter W at the beginning of a paragraph and ignoring case but what i fale to understand is why they have more then one period
[07:58] <EpicCyndaquil> what does that cheat sheet say a period stands for?
[07:59] <Bray90820> oops my bad i wads looking at the wrong side
[07:59] <aguitel> how remove gnome in 14.04?
[08:00] <EpicCyndaquil> aguitel: can I ask why you want to?
[08:00] <aguitel> EpicCyndaquil, coz i want to install only mate desktop
[08:01] <aguitel> EpicCyndaquil, no gnome ,no unity
[08:01] <aguitel> EpicCyndaquil,  like 10.04 i need
[08:01] <EpicCyndaquil> aguitel: you can install mate and still have gnome installed. If you want to use banshee or one of the many other gnome applications, you're going to need gnome installed anyhow.
[08:02] <aguitel> EpicCyndaquil,  no need gnome app
[08:03] <james0r2> aguitel, you're still going to want to install the new desktop first. if you want to remove parts of the gnome desktop later you can do that.
[08:03] <EpicCyndaquil> james0r2: does Ubuntu still have issues when you apt-get remove gnome? I've heard from a few people it removes some deps it shouldn't.
[08:03] <aguitel> james0r2, i know ,but how remove whole gnome?
[08:04] <Bray90820> EpicCyndaquil: to be honest it looks like the period searches for any charicter
[08:04] <james0r2> EpicCyndaquil, not sure exactly. have only dabbled with gnome as a desktop.
[08:05] <EpicCyndaquil> Bray90820: correct. '.' matches any 1 character, '*' matches 0 or more characters. So, they use . 5 times to show that there are 5 characters between the beginning of the paragraph and 'w'
[08:05] <james0r2> aguitel, i would suggest installing Mate and then trying it out. You may need to do some tweaking and cleaning up of stuff left over from gnome. You always at the least want 1 working desktop
[08:05] <EpicCyndaquil> Bray90820: do you know what the order of those permissions means?
[08:06] <aguitel> james0r2, ok
[08:07] <james0r2> aguitel, http://askubuntu.com/questions/244654/remove-ubuntu-gnome-desktop has some useful info about removing gnome desktop
[08:07] <EpicCyndaquil> aguitel: supposedly this is how you do it, but keep in mind that you will want mate installed and set to default first: http://blogs.operationaldynamics.com/paul/opensource/not-unified-removing-unity-from-ubuntu-12-04-lts#the-actual-juice https://web.archive.org/web/20120428220249/http://supportlife.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/tutorial-how-to-removeuninstall-gnome-3-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal
[08:07] <EpicCyndaquil> (some of that may be outdated, do so at your own risk)
[08:08] <aguitel> james0r2, ok EpicCyndaquil
[08:08] <Aeo> hi guys
[08:08] <Aeo> anyone here?
[08:08] <EpicCyndaquil> Aeo, don't ask to ask :)
[08:08] <Aeo> im gettingkernel panics on bootup
[08:09] <Aeo> any ideas?
[08:09] <james0r2> aguitel, if this is your first time installing a desktop on top of one be aware there will be some "kinks". You often always get a clean fresh desktop like you would on a fresh install from usb/dvd media.
[08:09] <EpicCyndaquil> that's extremely vague, Aeo. What happened before this?
[08:09] <james0r2> aguitel, You don't* often
[08:09] <Aeo> ...one of my scripts ran an fsck -C EpicCyndaquil
[08:09] <Aeo> yeah
[08:09] <Aeo> any way to fix it?
[08:10] <Aeo> Q_Q, im an idiot
[08:10] <Bray90820> EpicCyndaquil: owner group other
[08:10] <EpicCyndaquil> aguitel: easiest way would be to just install one of these distros: http://distrowatch.org/search.php?desktop=MATE
[08:11] <EpicCyndaquil> Bray90820: yep, so that command ultimately searches for files and directories with group write permissions.
[08:11] <Aeo> EpicCyndaquil, any ideas how to remedy that?
[08:11] <Yu-Yu> Hello there. After updating to Trusty my laptop's touchpad fails to work. What should I check?
[08:12] <Aeo> EpicCyndaquil, the exact error ans strace i get http://imgur.com/S2KplKr
[08:12] <Aeo> *and
[08:12] <Bray90820> EpicCyndaquil: i am very confused
[08:12] <EpicCyndaquil> Bray90820: what confuses you about that?
[08:13] <aguitel> james0r2, ok EpicCyndaquil
[08:13] <Bray90820> EpicCyndaquil: I am confused about what the periods do
[08:15] <EpicCyndaquil> Aeo: I don't have a solution off the top of my head, not too familiar with fsck. Doing a bit of looking around for you, but hopefully someone else has an answer
[08:16] <EpicCyndaquil> Bray90820: if I wanted to search for your name in a text file, I could do this: "grep 'Bray.....'"
[08:16] <Bray90820> EpicCyndaquil: yes but why 5 periods
[08:16] <Mrokii> Hello. I'm unable to update from 13.10 to 14.04. I only updated a few days ago from 13.04 to 13.10, which worked without problems. I had found a link on askubuntu about it which didn't help. "apt.log" shows several packages as broken though. Not sure what to do about it.
[08:16] <EpicCyndaquil> Bray90820: because each period represents a character. It would also match BrayXXXXX
[08:17] <Bray90820> EpicCyndaquil: Wouldn't 5 periods only seach for something that is 5 charicters long
[08:17] <Yu-Yu> No-one knows, okay.
[08:17] <inawarminister> Hi everyone!
[08:17] <inawarminister> Err, where's the ubuntu-support channel? Sorry, I got the wrong room...
[08:18] <inawarminister> hi?
[08:18] <EpicCyndaquil> Bray90820: in that case, it searches for anything starting with 'Bray' and ending in 5 characters.
[08:18] <inawarminister> Well, I'll ask here instead
[08:18] <EpicCyndaquil> inawarminister: you can get ubuntu support here.
[08:18] <inawarminister> Ok, thanks Cyndaquil.
[08:18] <Yu-Yu> inawarminister: Topic says it's here.
[08:19] <inawarminister> Right, so I'm now in an Arch/Manjaro-KDE install, but I want to migrate back to Ubuntu 14.04 (was using 12.04, got lured by Arch way, but I'm not good enough to do this)
[08:20] <inawarminister> So I already downloaded the .iso for Xubuntu 14.04, but all my USB disks are... non-working
[08:20] <inawarminister> The question is, can I create a partition in my HDD to emulate a live USB and install Ubuntu from there?
[08:20] <inawarminister> Thank you.
[08:20] <inawarminister> (I distinctly remember that option being mentioned last year or so, but I can't search google due to my firefox being borked, sadly)
[08:20] <EpicCyndaquil> inawarminister: are you mounting your drives?
[08:20] <SpaghettiCat> inawarminister:  what you mean USB not working?
[08:20] <Bray90820> so if i were to type in '^.....w' search for anything that has 5 charicters after a w at the beginning of a paragraph
[08:21] <inawarminister> Not working as in dead
[08:21] <inawarminister> Not not mounting, no.
[08:21] <Bray90820> EpicCyndaquil: pso if i were to type in '^.....w' search for anything that has 5 charicters after a w at the beginning of a paragraph
[08:21] <detach> he wants to use a hard drive to make a liveusb installer
[08:21] <EpicCyndaquil> SpaghettiCat: since you're still here - I'm thinking about trying to write a udev rule. ugh.
[08:21] <Yu-Yu> inawarminister: There's generally no difference which device you are gonna use this way. Some time ago I made it work exactly the way you're describing.
[08:21] <inawarminister> detach: yeah, that's exactly what I failed to describe elegantly.
[08:22] <inawarminister> Yu-Yu: no tuts though? So I just make a 2GB fat32 partition, put netbootin to there?
[08:22] <SpaghettiCat> EpicCyndaquil:  I don't know exactly what layer handles mouse-button events
[08:22] <inawarminister> I mean, use netbootin to burn the .iso to that partition?
[08:22] <EpicCyndaquil> Bray90820: it will search only at the beginning of a paragraph for strings with 5 characters and then a 'w'.
[08:23] <SpaghettiCat> inawarminister:  You mean even in Windows if you plug anything into USB the USB doesn't work?
[08:23] <BlackWeb> Is there a console based file manager that also displays memory/processes
[08:23] <BlackWeb> kinda like midnight commander
[08:23] <Bray90820> ok but then what would the  ls -l do?
[08:24] <EpicCyndaquil> BlackWeb: you can install midnight commander :)
[08:24] <SpaghettiCat> BlackWeb:  Run mc inside tmux. Tmux can show status info
[08:24] <Bray90820> EpicCyndaquil: then what would the  ls -l do?
[08:25] <EpicCyndaquil> Bray90820: let's take this to /msg
[08:25] <detach> inawarminister: are you using Windows to create the liveusb/livehdd?
[08:25] <Bray90820> Thanks
[08:25] <detach> inawarminister: stick the hard drive into a USB enclosure, plug it into windows and run the liveusb creator on it. It should work right a way, no?
[08:25] <inawarminister> SpaghettiCat: yeah
[08:25] <Yu-Yu> inawarminister: I worked with generic liveUSB casper.
[08:26] <inawarminister> detach: Nah, I'm in Arch/Manjaro, as said earlier
[08:26] <detach> oh
[08:26] <inawarminister> Err, it's an internal hdd, not external
[08:26] <inawarminister> in fact, my ext. HDD is also borked. Goodbye all my files heh
[08:26] <Yu-Yu> detach, inawarminister: they say, dd-ing the mage will work aswell.
[08:26] <detach> dd if=iso_file.iso of=/dev/hdX
[08:27] <detach> ?
[08:27] <detach> i don't think so
[08:27] <inawarminister> Yu-Yu: aaah, dd doesn't care about partition I guess?
[08:27] <detach> needs partition tables
[08:27] <detach> for bootin
[08:27] <Yu-Yu> Sure.
[08:27] <Yu-Yu> Yeah, cool…
[08:27] <inawarminister> wait, isn't dd catascrophic to the whole disk, not a single partitions?
[08:28] <inawarminister> Welp im more fucked
[08:28] <inawarminister> So this manjaro instlalation actually ENCRYPT the whole disk, so no way for me to resize the partition
[08:28] <wrenny> is Ubuntu 14 32 or 64 bit
[08:28] <detach> well inawarminister i think the first thing is to wipe your hard drive, so just zero the first 512 bytes dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdX bs=512 count=1
[08:28] <inawarminister> OH well, going to try finding/borrowing/buying a 2GB flash disk, thanks
[08:28] <Yu-Yu> Great!
[08:28] <EpicCyndaquil> wrenny: you should be able to choose when you download
[08:29] <Yu-Yu> Wise choice.
[08:29] <wrenny> i just upgraded 12 to 14
[08:29] <wrenny> where can I see
[08:29] <wrenny> i did the console update
[08:29] <detach> wrenny: ... what did you install? LOL
[08:29] <detach> wrenny: uname -a
[08:29] <bekks> wrenny: 12 what to 14 what?
[08:29] <Yu-Yu> [2] Hello there. After updating to Trusty my laptop's touchpad fails to work. What should I check?
[08:29] <inawarminister> Yeah, again, I reiterate, thank you. I guess as a non-power user it really isn't recommended to use Arch without virtualisation haha. Too hard.
[08:30] <detach> inawarminister: just grab some beer you will be fine
[08:31] <wrenny> 3.13.0-24-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:11:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:31] <inawarminister> detach: shame im not a germanic, im a satay huehue
[08:31] <inawarminister> going to keep this window open for any last-minute questions, I guess. AFK though
[08:31] <EpicCyndaquil> inawarminister: I'd recommend truecrypt for your sensitive files, not full disk encryption
[08:31] <detach> wrenny: you got your answer there
[08:31] <wrenny> k
[08:32] <wrenny> what install files I need for truecrypt
[08:32] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[08:32]  * Yu-Yu guesses Ubuntu still does not allow upgrading from N.XX to (N+2).YY via do-release-upgrade.
[08:32] <inawarminister> EpicCyndaquil: What's the difference between truecrypt and EncFS anyway
[08:32] <wrenny> standard or console
[08:33] <yellabs-r2> the menu on the top right ( with the on/off sign ) what is it called in canonical terms ? i would like to hide switch user ( gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.session )
[08:33] <inawarminister> Huh, truecrypt is noice
[08:33] <yellabs-r2> in 14.04
[08:33] <EpicCyndaquil> inawarminister: well, truecrypt allows you to create files that you can mount as filesystems, and encrypt with a password or keyfile
[08:34] <EpicCyndaquil> which is usually what most users want anyway
[08:34] <jluc> truecrypt is more easy to manage ? or more easy to recover in case or issue ? or more secure ?
[08:34] <Yu-Yu> Does anyone ever know?
[08:35] <EpicCyndaquil> jluc: encrypting your entire file system is typically not something most people need to do
[08:35] <wrenny> I downloaded the file for Ubuntu but no idea how to install it
[08:35] <wrenny> stupid compared to Windows
[08:35] <bekks> wrenny: what is "the file"?
[08:35] <EpicCyndaquil> jluc: so instead you can just encrypt your bank documents, etc.
[08:35] <inawarminister> EpicCyndaquil: yeah, it's awesome. EncFS is much more obscure
[08:35] <jluc> true
[08:35] <wrenny> truecrypt ....tar.gz
[08:35] <Kaco> you can use encfs to encrypt just your documents folder
[08:36] <jluc> i guess its easyer to create backups then too
[08:36] <Yu-Yu> After do-release-upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 my bt does not work, touchpad does not work and numpad lock diode blinks. What's wrong?
[08:36] <BlackWeb> Thanks :) Spaghitticat ... Just need to get familiar with commands of Tmux
[08:36] <inawarminister> Kaco: can I ask you what's the differences between EncFS and truecrypt? I'm reading https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/EncFS and only got more confused
[08:36] <EpicCyndaquil> inawarminister: there's nothing wrong with EncFS, but it simply isn't useful to most people
[08:36] <BlackWeb> but its doing pretty much what I wanted
[08:36] <rchavik> just upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 desktop, using gdm but gnome-shell not started.  i need to login via tty, set DISPLAY and manually start gnome-shell. any idea why it's not started automatically?
[08:36] <SpaghettiCat> inawarminister:  I think EncFS is meant to be simpler to use. I use it and really like it
[08:36] <bekks> wrenny: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrueCrypt
[08:36] <EpicCyndaquil> oh wow, did I really just get everyone to try truecrypt? (What did I get myself into?)
[08:37] <wrenny> k thnx
[08:37] <Yu-Yu> wrenny: Yes, stupid to compare. To compare different things.
[08:37] <Kaco> truecrypt encrypts whole disk right? encfs will only encrypt a folder using your existing filesystem
[08:37] <Kaco> to other users they will just appear as garbage with gibberish filenames
[08:37] <inawarminister> EpicCyndaquil, SpaghettiCat: Right, I see the main difference between them is that EncFS doesn't need an elevated privilege to make and mount the encrypted disks?
[08:38] <detach> No, truecrypt makes a file which contains encrypted data that you mount as a volume.
[08:38] <Kaco> and yes encfs works in user space
[08:38] <detach> so whatever you throw in that encrypted volume will get encrypted
[08:38] <detach> an the rest of your system remains as-is (unencrypted)
[08:38] <detach> and you can move that file around and mount it on another computer
[08:38] <Kaco> ah ok, but then truecrypt creates it's own filesystem, while encfs will use your current one
[08:38] <inawarminister> While we
[08:38] <hiteshtr> i have upgraded my ubuntu to 14.04 and now i am unable to see unity and my keyboard shortcut are also not working
[08:38] <SpaghettiCat> inawarminister:  Yeh it doesn't need root
[08:38] <Kaco> in case that something breaks down it's more easy to recover encfs files
[08:38] <hiteshtr> any suggestions
[08:38] <inawarminister> While we're talking about encryption, can I ask a bit about virtualisation?
[08:39] <hiteshtr> what should i do to recover my ubuntu
[08:39] <detach> what? just backup your truecrypt image
[08:39] <Kaco> and encfs could be used on remote disks really easy using sshfs
[08:39] <inawarminister> I've heard that there's a new virtualisation method that runs at near native-speed, but it needs certain Intel processors?
[08:39] <EpicCyndaquil> inawarminister: hyper-v?
[08:39] <inawarminister> Is there a list on this? I think the method is called Kvim?
[08:39] <detach> inawarminister: that's not new. it's been around for years
[08:39] <EpicCyndaquil> er
[08:40] <wrenny> no idea how to install this file
[08:40] <EpicCyndaquil> I'm clearly too tired
[08:40] <Kaco> for example i have a source code dir on a server encrypted using encfs, i just map that dir using sshfs and then use encfs to encrypt/decrypt it locally
[08:40] <inawarminister> EpicCyndaquil, detach: ah
[08:40] <detach> Kaco: why that trouble? just have it encrypted on the server and transport it over ssh which by itself is already encrypted
[08:41] <piko`> Hello, it seems that usb modeswitching does not work on my new box equipped with USB 3.0 ... is that usual?
[08:41] <linocisco> is ubuntu cloud free of charge?
[08:41] <inawarminister> EpicCyndaquil, detach: no, HyperV needs Windows Server as host, the method I'm searching about don't, they can use Linux OS as host, but needs certain hw combos
[08:41] <Kaco> it's quite complicated over ssh since it's a Mercurial repo :)
[08:41] <EpicCyndaquil> inawarminister: I believe it's called I-VT or similar
[08:41] <Kaco> and i work with it locally as if it was local
[08:41] <EpicCyndaquil> inawarminister: VT-x
[08:42] <Kaco> you can't do that with truecrypt image if it's too big
[08:42] <detach> inawarminister: it depends on what you are talking about, even VMware ESX does that as long as the CPU supports it
[08:42] <inawarminister> EpicCyndaquil: yeah, that one!
[08:43] <bekks> inawarminister: that works with vbox, kvm, xen, esx.
[08:43] <EpicCyndaquil> detach: he was asking about VT-x and AMD-V
[08:43] <detach> Kaco: GIT
[08:43] <inawarminister> detach: Yeah, I just want to know wheter my proc. support those methods
[08:43] <Kaco> i switched to mercurial because git and svn were throwing random errors on me over sshfs
[08:43] <inawarminister> bekks: vt-x?
[08:43] <detach> Kaco:  you are clearly using them wrong
[08:43] <inawarminister> Anyway yes, it does: http://ark.intel.com/products/33910/intel-core2-duo-processor-e8400-6m-cache-3_00-ghz-1333-mhz-fsb (VT-X YES)
[08:44] <Kaco> and it needs to be encrypted/unreadabe on server otherwise somebody could read the sources
[08:44] <bekks> inawarminister: Yes.
[08:44] <detach> Kaco: you aren't supposed to be mounting a filesystem
[08:44] <inawarminister> Is there any tut for using it in Ubuntu? Can VirtualBox use the VT-X support?
[08:44] <Kaco> detach: explain how :)
[08:44] <bekks> inawarminister: Just look at the virtualbox documentation.
[08:44] <EpicCyndaquil> inawarminister: should use it automatically
[08:44] <bekks> inawarminister: And vbox supports vtx for years.
[08:44] <detach> Kaco: check the files in and out. if you're worried about people reading your stuff on the server then you need your own server
[08:44] <inawarminister> :)
[08:45] <Kaco> detach: ok how do you store encrypted git repo on a server and access it?
[08:45] <CADBOT> I have a question on creating a user with a password via useradd
[08:45] <CADBOT> this is my understanding
[08:45] <inawarminister> Right, time to make a win7/classic/cleaned image for virtualisation then. Thank you everyone!
[08:45] <CADBOT> but something isn't working right
[08:45] <Kaco> detach: it's my own server, but there are few other guys having stuff there ...
[08:45] <CADBOT> if I run:
[08:45] <CADBOT> openssl passwd -1 "theplaintextpassword"
[08:45] <CADBOT> and get the output from that command
[08:45] <CADBOT> let's call it x
[08:45] <CADBOT> then if i do
[08:45] <bekks> !enter | CADBOT
[08:46] <detach> Kaco: well then i would secure my server...
[08:46] <CADBOT> useradd -g groupName -p x userName
[08:46] <bekks> CADBOT: Stop pressing enter every few words please, but keep your question on one line
[08:46] <Kaco> detach: i tried everything, but thit is the only solution to have sources backed up on server or on dropbox
[08:46] <bekks> CADBOT: useradd does not accept the password as option. You cannot pass it like that.
[08:46] <CADBOT> Sure, sorry about that. That's the whole thing anyway.
[08:46] <detach> Kaco: well your application is a pretty unusual i must say
[08:47] <detach> Kaco: i wouldn't have people with root access poking around my server for sure
[08:47] <CADBOT> What would be the proper way to do what I was trying to do? I thought that's what the -p option is for.
[08:47] <Kaco> detach: well ok, basically the sources are not open source, and server is shared ... this was the only way to keep them secure
[08:48] <Kaco> detach: they manage the stuff like DNS and so on, it's perfectly ok, i just don't want them to get my sources :)
[08:48] <detach> Kaco: yea I understand that part, but why are the guys sharing your server able to get to YOUR code that's a very general security concern
[08:48] <[deXter]> Hi folks, anyone have any experience installing Ubuntu on an Intel soft raid (fakeraid) system?
[08:48] <detach> Kaco: if i had a shared file server i wouldn't want my Sales staff to be pulling out the HR documents
[08:48] <Kaco> detach: i was using similar approach and saved sources on dropbox, but i feel this is safer
[08:49] <detach> Kaco: yeikes you should break the DNS parts out of that box. that's what virtualization is for
[08:49] <detach> [deXter]: you are better off with software raid
[08:49] <Kaco> detach: and I move between my office/home office with 3 different computers, so I need the sources to stay in sync
[08:49] <detach> [deXter]: you will have better control. don't bother with softraid
[08:50] <bekks> [deXter]: Yes. You cant use a fakeraid. Either you use a hw raid, or you setup a software raid using linux. These fakeraid stuff requires Windows drivers which cant be used in Linux.
[08:50] <[deXter]> detach, I know, but I'm dual-booting
[08:50] <detach> [deXter]: sorry i mean fakeraid
[08:50] <bekks> dextrey: you cant dualboot using a fakeraid.
[08:50] <[deXter]> detach, I'm on fakeraid
[08:51] <detach> [deXter]: i mean don't bother with fakeraid. but if you are dual booting then i guess you'll need to look for drivers from intel or your motherboard manufacturer
[08:51] <[deXter]> bekks, I've no problem accessing the partitions when I'm booting from the Live CD
[08:51] <bekks> [deXter]: that doesnt affect the above.
[08:51] <detach> [deXter]: yeah you'll see your partitions for sure, but you'll see two drives, am i correct?
[08:51] <[deXter]> it just shows up as a weird /dev/mapper/something
[08:51] <[deXter]> yeah I see two drives as well
[08:52] <detach> yes then there's no raid. if you install on either drive the other one won't get the data. the reason why is b/c fakeraid is actually software raid, i.e. it needs the O/S to perform the RAID
[08:52] <detach> once you're out of Windows = no driver = no RAID.
[08:52] <[deXter]> Yeah but this is by Intel, it's got nothing to do with Windows
[08:53] <detach> intel provides the drivers
[08:53] <detach> windows runs the drivers
[08:53] <detach> and then gives you RAID
[08:53] <detach> it's essentially software RAID
[08:53] <detach> the motherboard/intel does NOT do RAID
[08:53] <[deXter]> I *know* that
[08:53] <detach> otherwise it would be called hardware RAID
[08:53] <bekks> [deXter]: it only works with windows.
[08:53] <detach> right, so you need to find the drivers ... if there's any at all
[08:54] <[deXter]> bekks, I'm pretty sure Linux has a driver for it
[08:54] <detach> aptitude search fakeraid ?
[08:54] <bekks> [deXter]: NOT for WINDOWS fakeraid.
[08:54] <[deXter]> bekks, It's NOT windows, it's Intel
[08:54] <[deXter]> Windows has nothing to do with it
[08:54] <bekks> [deXter]: It is ONLY Windows.
[08:54] <detach> *facepalm*
[08:54] <detach> ROFL
[08:55] <bekks> [deXter]: Otherwise it would be a HARDWARE raid.
[08:55] <detach> [deXter]: $11.99... be done with it http://www.ebay.com/itm/HighPoint-RocketRAID-620-A-2CH-SATA-III-PCI-e-RAID-Controller-Host-Adapter-Card-/151283477927
[08:57] <detach> [deXter]: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto ?
[08:57] <[deXter]> detach, Everything I've read and heard about RAID so far is to NOT go for such cheap so called "hardware" RAID cards
[08:57] <[deXter]> detach, Yes, but the instructions aren't current
[08:57] <detach> [deXter]: well that's because software raid can do so much more than cheap HW RAID heh
[08:57] <[deXter]> exactly
[08:57] <detach> [deXter]: the RAID cards are supposed to help offload CPU but if they don't do a good job it can be worse
[08:58] <[deXter]> I know,
[08:58] <detach> [deXter]: which version of Ubuntu are you on?
[08:58] <[deXter]> detach, 14.04
[08:58] <bekks> [deXter]: then get yourself a more expensive controller, like 3ware or Areca.
[08:58] <detach> [deXter]: do you see /dev/mapper/something ?
[08:58] <Kaco> anyway guys I'm having a trouble with sd card reader "O2 Micro", some mmc0 error about timeoutes
[08:59] <red234324> win7 install overwrote ubuntu mbr + grub so i used live cd to get grub back + ubuntu fine except - grub not detecting new win7 install, what is the command to reset grub?
[08:59] <[deXter]> detach, yes
[08:59] <detach> [deXter]: is dmraid installed?
[09:00] <[deXter]> detach, hold on, lemme reboot back into the live environment
[09:00] <detach> [deXter]: so you see /dev/mapper/something *after* instaling, that means dmraid sees it. you'll need to boot off the dmraid device by updating grub. be sure to make a backup of your grub config.
[09:00] <Yu-Yu> Anyone?
[09:00] <detach> brb I need to get back to work [deXter]
[09:01] <seatsea_> I just installed ubuntuu14.04. Grub is not listing Windows 7 and selecting ubuntu brings up a blank screen with no hdd activity
[09:01] <[deXter]> detach, the problem is I'm stuck at GRUB right now
[09:01] <detach> try searching up on getting dmraid to work
[09:01] <detach> stuck?
[09:01] <detach> how you mean stuck
[09:01] <[deXter]> Yeah, GRUB can't find /dev/mapper/isw-something
[09:02] <trijntje> red234324: sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub
[09:02] <[deXter]> "ALERT! /dev/mapper/isw_...p5 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[09:03] <detach> [deXter]: try reading here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2090554
[09:03] <detach> [deXter]: I need to get back to work, brb
[09:03] <[deXter]> ok thanks detach
[09:03] <red234324> trijntje, thanks
[09:04] <Fanthomas90> hi!
[09:05] <Fanthomas90> is there a way to tell my ubuntu which ruby version to use without using rvm (gitlab doesn't recommend usind rvm)?
[09:05] <Yu-Yu> [   20.929486] input: AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint as /devices/platform/i8042/serio4/input/input18 — it's there but not working. What should I do?
[09:05] <Fanthomas90> I have install ruby2.0 from the packages on my 14.04 maschine, but ruby --version says 19.1
[09:05] <Fanthomas90> 1.9
[09:06] <bekks> Fanthomas90: from which packages?
[09:06] <Fanthomas90> default repo
[09:07] <bekks> Fanthomas90: The default ruby installation (/usr/bin/ruby) has the version: 1.9.3p484 (2013-11-22 revision 43786)
[09:09] <Yu-Yu> Eh…
[09:10] <bekks> Fanthomas90: ruby2.0 is available as /usr/bin/ruby2.0
[09:14] <BlkSabb> Would Evolution be the most similar to KOrganizer in a task organizer/calendar program?
[09:15] <BlkSabb> I don't think KOrganizer plays well with Ubuntu
[09:16] <bekks> BlkSabb: I do know it plays well.
[09:17] <Yu-Yu> Bye.
[09:17] <Fanthomas90> bekks: I see... Then I just have to tell gitlab which ruby version to use i guess...
[09:18] <BlkSabb> All of this KDE software has been buggy lately. I'm switching to something more stable. I guess Evolution is what I want.
[09:18] <wrenny> I actually installed Truecrypt and opened one of my containers on an NTFS drives which is cool
[09:18] <wrenny> where can I see installed software to open it
[09:19] <bekks> BlkSabb: LOL - no. Evolution is definitely nothing you want or even would wish on a snake.
[09:19] <bekks> BlkSabb: At least not if you compare it to korganizer, etc.
[09:22] <unem> i'm getting "unmet dependencies" when trying to install wine or wine1.6, could someone help please?
[09:23] <aeon-ltd> unem: get the dependencies?
[09:23] <logicuk> hello everyone im new to linux, how do i setup preboot authentication for ubuntu
[09:23] <unem> aeon-ltd: the unmet dependency is wine1.6-i386
[09:23] <unem> but it's the same problem
[09:24] <BlkSabb> Maybe Osmo would be a good KOrganizer replacement
[09:24] <bekks> logicuk: what is "preboot authentication"?
[09:24] <logicuk> bekks: i have to enter a usb stick before linux will boot
[09:24] <Ramona> Mikerhinos: no it doesn't show up in BIOS
[09:25] <bekks> logicuk: you could encrypt your entire system and put thee decryption key on a usb stick. that not a newbie setup, to be honest.
[09:26] <clovis818> im having issues getting dovecot working on ubuntu 14.04, /etc/init.d/dovecot was not created
[09:26] <logicuk> bekks: how can i do this
[09:26] <clovis818> any ideas?
[09:27] <Mikerhinos> Ramona: so if your drive is well plugged in, I think that it may have died
[09:28] <bekks> logicuk: you have to get deep into how encryption works first.
[09:28] <BlkSabb> I think I've got to stick with KOrganizer
[09:28] <BlkSabb> these others aren't as good
[09:29] <bekks> logicuk: Keep it in the channel please, not in my query. If you want to pay a consultant to set that up for you - hire a consultant. I strongly doubt "a few" bitcoin will be enough at that point.
[09:30] <BlitzHere> logicuk, I don't know what the "correct" method is, really. But I used the mini iso copied on to a USB flash drive to install Ubuntu, and it decided that my usb flash drive was sda and istalled the bootloader to it. So, my computer doesn't boot without hte pen drive plugged in
[09:31] <d1rkp1tt> Hi all, my VNC has died on 14.04 after upgrading.. just wondering if anyone else has experienced this?
[09:31] <bekks> BlitzHere: And every other bootable medium will get it booting :)
[09:31] <d1rkp1tt> Can no longer vnc into this machine
[09:34] <detach> [deXter]: how did it go
[09:35] <Bzy> How do reset password
[09:35] <bekks> !password | Bzy
[09:36] <detach> bekks: nice ;)
[09:37] <Bzy> It says authentication token manipulation error though
[09:38] <Bzy> I'm stuck friend gave comp and no password
[09:38] <bekks> Bzy: then ask your friend for the password.
[09:38] <[twisti]> hello, i use a line such as this to mount a webdav file system:
[09:38] <[twisti]> mount.davfs http://mediacenter.gmx.net /mnt/gmx/ -o username=XYZ@gmx.de,password=XYZ,uid=100,gid=100
[09:39] <[twisti]> how can i make it so that happens automatically after i reboot ?
[09:39] <[twisti]> headless lts 12.04 if it matters
[09:39] <Bzy> No luck
[09:39] <detach> [twisti]: put that into /etc/rc.local
[09:39] <Ramona> Mikerhinos: however when windows is running the disk drive shows in the mypc window and can be "explored" so that can't be it
[09:39] <bekks> Bzy: If he doesnt want to tell you the password, you are not supposed to use his computer.
[09:39] <[twisti]> thanks
[09:40] <Encoding> hi all, i need help about how to make my laptop be wireless access point
[09:41] <dusf123_> at install i elected to encrypt my /home, root, and swap partitions which now means i have to enter my passphrase 3 times before entering my login password at boot, is there a more efficient way to do this? is it necessary to encrypt swap and root? i hae also encrypted a storage partition i can access by entering the passphrase once logged in but i cannot create any files or folders there?
[09:41] <d1rkp1tt> anyone have any ideas how to troubleshoot remote sharing in ubuntu 14.04 then? firewall is off...
[09:42] <d1rkp1tt> lucky I saved an image before I upgraded. ;) rollback time
[09:45] <Bzy> ?
[09:46] <bekks> Bzy: No chance. If your friend denies the password to you, he/she does not want you to use his computer.
[09:46] <detach> dusf123_: i'd suggest not encrypting anything
[09:46] <bekks> Bzy: Thats nothing we can help you with.
[09:46] <Bzy> What does authentication  token manipulation error mean?
[09:47] <bekks> Bzy: "wrong password".
[09:47] <daedeloth> why is it I alwyas have issues after every single ubuntu release...
[09:47] <bekks> Bzy: you should stop trying to break into your friends computer.
[09:47] <bekks> daedeloth: How are we supposed to know without knowing which problems you have after the update? :)
[09:47] <detach> daedeloth: switch to a Mac? ;)
[09:48] <dusf123_> detach: do you not value the security of your passwords and documents?
[09:48] <dusf123_> at install i elected to encrypt my /home, root, and swap partitions which now means i have to enter my passphrase 3 times before entering my login password at boot, is there a more efficient way to do this? is it necessary to encrypt swap and root? i hae also encrypted a storage partition i can access by entering the passphrase once logged in but i cannot create any files or folders there?
[09:48] <daedeloth> well, bekks,at least it's different problems every time :)
[09:48] <detach> dusf123_: I do, but there are other ways to encrypt stuff and keep your data secure
[09:48] <detach> dusf123_: and not EVERYTHING needs to be encrypted. you can have the color of my underwear for all i care
[09:49] <Mikerhinos> Ramona: if it won't show in BIOS windows shouldn't be able to see it too
[09:49] <Bzy> Wow no reason to be catty ... He just can't be reached right now ... And I don't care if I have to reset the whole thing I would just like to get online with my kids
[09:50] <detach> Bzy: then make a USB livecd and boot off that and run the computer off the USB
[09:50] <dusf123_> detach: please suggest your alternative method?
[09:51] <detach> dusf123_: depends on what you want to encrypt? truecrypt is a good way to keep some encrypted files
[09:51] <Bzy> He left me with a tp link ? Is that it
[09:52] <detach> dusf123_: http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/tutorial
[09:52] <d1rkp1tt> so annoying that vino-server is crapped out. every upgrade it gives me grief
[09:54] <trijntje> I just installed 14.04 on my laptop but now I have to manually switch on the touchpad after every boot. How can I fix this?
[09:55] <dusf123_> detach: i would like to encrypt everything personal without having to select individual files or directories. is there anything personal stored on root partition? i was planning to look at truecrypt later on to encrypt Windows 8.1 as i do not have a tpm module for bitlocker.
[09:55] <majod> hi. anyone can tell me how to enable hw acceleration in vlc in trusty on ati gpu?
[09:57] <[deXter]> majod, install from ppa
[09:57] <trijntje> dusf123_: you never know what gets into certain log files, so you're probably best of encrypting everything if you want to be sure
[09:57] <majod> [deXter]: install what?
[09:57] <[deXter]> vlc
[09:58] <majod> [deXter]: vlc 2.2 ?
[09:58] <[twisti]> detach: that wont work, /etc/rc.local is apparently readable by everyone
[09:59] <detach> dusf123_: root is your whole drive. you don't have to encrypt swap
[09:59] <[deXter]> majod, 2.1.5
[09:59] <[deXter]> majod, the ppa is ppa:videolan/stable-daily
[10:00] <detach> [twisti]: put an executable file in /root/bin/ with only root perms and use /etc/rc.local to run that
[10:00] <trijntje> I just installed 14.04 on my laptop but now I have to manually switch on the touchpad after every boot. How can I fix this?
[10:01] <majod> [deXter]: thanks, ill try it
[10:01] <[twisti]> ah, good idea
[10:01] <[twisti]> so rc.local is executed with root permissions ?
[10:02] <[twisti]> do i need to worry about dismounting ?
[10:02] <Guest14113> Hello, i am getting a desktop full freeze on ubuntu 14 : When i leave a youtube video paused and let it go to sleep, when i come back t the laptop it is completely unresponsive.
[10:02] <Guest14113> the youtube video is maximized
[10:02] <bekks> [twisti]: Yes.
[10:03] <majod> [deXter]: it installs 2.1.2 from that ppa
[10:03] <majod> [deXter]: oh ok. says 2.1.5 in vlc
[10:03] <[deXter]> :)
[10:03] <[twisti]> bekks: to which question ?
[10:04] <bekks> [twisti]: /etc/rc.local is executed as root.
[10:04] <majod> [deXter]: well. now my videos are green. and acceleration doesnt work at all :/ i set it to "automatic"
[10:05] <dusf123_> trijntje: thanks, do you know how i can do this without having  to enter my passphrase on boot up three times, one for each partition, root, /home, and swap, all before entering my password to login?
[10:05] <dusf123_> detach: for me root is just the / partition, for security it is recommended to encrypt swap as data stored there can be pulled from it
[10:05] <[deXter]> majod, which drivers are you using?
[10:06] <detach> dusf123_: seems you are paranoid, then there's some things you have to give up for that and entering your password 3 times isn't a lot to give
[10:06] <detach> dusf123_: most people put all their crap on /
[10:06] <majod> [deXter]: gallium 0.4...fglrx doesnt work, i dont know why. i guess theres not compatible version for trusty yet
[10:06] <detach> dusf123_: and of course /home
[10:06] <Ramona> Mikerhinos: that's why i don't understand it, my laptop just wont show drivers other than the hardrive in the BIOS i googled it and apparently HP has that problem, HP should take their heads out their a**es and employ some people who actaully know how to program computers.
[10:06] <trijntje> dusf123_: just encrypt root, use a swapfile instead of a swap partition, and set automatic login for the user ;)
[10:06] <[deXter]> detach, And which graphics card?
[10:07] <[deXter]> Sorry, *majod - which graphics card?
[10:07] <majod> [deXter]: 7850
[10:07] <dusf123_> detach: i'm not paranoid, the swap area can contain passwords and personal data, if you would protect it on your home partition why not protect it there also? not doing so is an oversight
[10:08] <[deXter]> majod, Ah then you'd be using the radeonsi driver.. in which case you'd get better performance with kernel 3.14 and mesa 10.2
[10:08] <majod> [deXter]: can i somehow upgrade kernel to 3.14?
[10:09] <[deXter]> majod, yeah, from the mainline PPA
[10:09] <dusf123_> trijntje: cool, that makes sense, but what about my /home partition? i like to keep it separate for upgrades and reinstalls etc. there must be some way to enter a passphrase once and have it decrypt all drives
[10:09] <majod> [deXter]: is it safe? :) never done it
[10:09] <d1rkp1tt> anyone know why vino-server is broke?
[10:10] <[deXter]> majod, Yes, you can always go back to an older kernel from GRUB if this one doesn't work for you. http://www.yourownlinux.com/2014/04/install-upgrade-to-linux-kernel-3-14-1-in-linux.html
[10:10] <majod> [deXter]: ok. ill try.
[10:11] <[deXter]> majod, after installing the new kernel, you need to add this ppa and follow the instructions on the page to update your mesa and xorg https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/
[10:11] <dror> hi. i moved from a computer running 12.10 to a new computer running 13.10. i have a backup of my home directory, and i would like to run Shotwell with all the tagging i did in the old computer.
[10:11] <dror> can i simply copy the images & ~/.shotwell/data/photo.db to my new computer, or are there db changes in the version included in 12.10 compared to 13.10?
[10:12] <trijntje> dusf123_: I'm sure thats possible, but I've never done that, so I cant help you there
[10:12] <majod> [deXter]: the link for the kernel and this ppa...those are stable builds? not some dailys
[10:12] <[deXter]> majod, yeah they're stable, I'm running them myself.
[10:13] <Mikerhinos> speaking of radeon, my son has an old comp running with a cr*ppy radeon x1950pro that had a lot of problems with ubuntu back in the days (it was mine lol), is it safe to install ubuntu on it ? (or xubuntu or mint whatever)
[10:13] <Rajvi> Hi, Is there any differnce between installing Third Party Packages Media Codec etc duringg the installation screen & after installation ie Can i do it latter.
[10:13] <trijntje> dusf123_: altough, if you use the graphical installer to create a physical volume for encryption, you could put both / and /home on there and it would decrypt with a single password I think. Try it out ;)
[10:13] <trijntje> Rajvi: no difference
[10:13] <trijntje> I just installed 14.04 on my laptop but now I have to manually switch on the touchpad after every boot. How can I fix this?
[10:13] <majod> [deXter]: so after upgrading the kernel. i have to install those drivers from ppa? or those drivers are just optional upgrade
[10:14] <Ramona> hey hey mithay
[10:14] <[deXter]> majod, sort of optional but they go hand-in-hand
[10:14] <Rajvi> So, u mean i can simply install Resticted Extras Packages latter on ..Is it the same source?
[10:15] <trijntje> Rajvi: sure
[10:15] <majod> [deXter]: ok. i hope its going to work. wish luck.
[10:15] <[deXter]> gl. :)
[10:15] <redus> !list
[10:16] <Rajvi> I have noticed several times.. previously. that the restrcted extra packages shows NOT installed in Software Center..even hough i thought of installating them on the installation wizard
[10:16] <[deXter]> Mikerhinos, It should work fine with the open-source drivers
[10:17] <Rajvi> @Trijntje
[10:17] <trijntje> Rajvi: the restricted package contains more stuf than what you can install during installation
[10:17] <[deXter]> majod, oh and after you add the ppa you need to do a dist-upgrade
[10:17] <Rajvi> Hmm, that makes sense..
[10:17] <Rajvi> Thanks Guys
[10:18] <trijntje> how can I report touchpad-related bugs?
[10:18] <trijntje> what package should I report against?
[10:21] <dusf123_> trijntje: interesting. i already did install using lvm, root, /home, swap, and my shared partition are logical volumes on the same physical volume, is that what you are talking about?
[10:22] <sandergb> Can anyone help with 'no sound' in Ubuntu 12.04?
[10:22] <Mikerhinos> processus is limited to 4gb of memory use even in 64b edition ?
[10:22] <Mikerhinos> *x64
[10:22] <bekks> Mikerhinos: No.
[10:22] <bekks> Mikerhinos: That limit applies to 32Bit only.
[10:24] <trijntje> dusf123_: I don't know to be honest, like I said I dont have experience with seperate /home. But it might be worth to try it out and see if it works, install should take less than 30 minutes ;)
[10:25] <ichat> anyone here who can help me with a sound issue on my newly installed  14.04  my logitec ls150 (usb speakers) worked fine on   10.10 ... but after i finally installed a fresh 14.04  the usb speakers dont work, i dont get a volume mixer  in the menu nor in hte aplet bar...
[10:25] <sandergb> Tried everything to get sound. Installed then reinstalled Lubuntu, Xubuntu and Ubuntu. No sound. Soundcard is HDA Intel. Chip is Realtek ALC880. Unmuted alsamixer. aplay -l does not list any devices. Dummy output only. Can't see a way forward after reading a lot of forum posts.
[10:25] <dusf123_> trijntje: thanks for the suggestion :) i will try it, but what would you think about later installing debian/fedora on different lvs on the same physical volume, could this cause a problem if encrypted by ubuntu?
[10:26] <dusf123_> i intend to install mulitple operating systems on the physical volume, in logical volumes
[10:27] <trijntje> dusf123_: I really don't know, sorry. I dont want to guess and have you mess up your system because of me. Maybe try asking in this chanel later when there are more/other people around
[10:31] <Aki-Thinkpad> is ubuntu desktop 14.04 supported for 3 or 5 years?
[10:32] <Aki-Thinkpad> !lts
[10:34] <dw1> Aki-Thinkpad: ubottu may be inaccurate.  The web site says "Starting with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, both versions will receive 5 years support."  which presumably includes Trusty as well. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[10:35] <k1l> since 12.04 LTS have 5 years for server and desktop
[10:35] <thepunisher> hello
[10:36] <dw1> k1l:  ubottu should probably be updated, as it states 12.04 is an axception to the 3 year rule and makes no mention of future releases
[10:36] <k1l> dw1: yep
[10:36] <Li_o> http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=373058
[10:36] <thepunisher> im new in ubuntu
[10:36] <Li_o> wget -O fglrx.patch http://ubuntuone.com/5gNgEmVfzs3ytD5QZ2YGCi
[10:36] <Li_o> patch -p1 < fglrx.patch
[10:37] <Li_o> what's this web link?
[10:37] <k1l> Li_o: that is the patch (whatever patch that is...)
[10:38] <Ubuntu-ceo> 0x71 (xc) Our Hacker Team Public Channel irc.oftc.net #0x71 #0x71.org , visit : http://0x71.org , channel rule : Please dont said #channel and paste url , you will be kick by bot, msg skraito-0x71 if you been ban. For #ubuntu you'r ceo is one of 0x71 (xc) Our Hacker Team Core Member see this : http://0x71.org/0x71-xc-our-list-of-our-team/ , come to irc.oftc.net and use AstaraOS
[10:40] <k1l> !away > g00fy
[10:40] <g00fy> o.O
[10:40] <g00fy> is there once again an auto away messave??
[10:41] <g00fy> f**k!!!   >_<
[10:41] <Li_o> what's this patch for?
[10:41] <g00fy> sorry, will be deactivated any moment
[10:42] <SoWhat_> hello guys! I am trying to share my mobile broadband internet through Ethernet port without success. Is here anybody who can help me? I tried to use this tutorial here, but it doesn't work for me https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SharingMobileBroadband
[10:43] <SoWhat_> I am also not able to share Broadband connection using Network Manager, there is no such option
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[10:44] <g00fy> ummmmm...... k1l
[10:44] <Mark_Shuttlewort> i am ceo
[10:44] <Mark_Shuttlewort> u ban me asshole
[10:44] <Mark_Shuttlewort> ubuntu is bankrupt
[10:45] <g00fy> there shouldn't be any message to the channel
[10:45] <bekks> !ops | Mark_Shuttlewort
[10:45] <Mark_Shuttlewort> i am 0x71 (xc) Our now
[10:45] <majod> [deXter]: man, that was so f.ed up
[10:45] <majod> [deXter]: i almost had to reset my bios
[10:46] <k1l> g00fy: thanks, works now
[10:46] <g00fy> ???
[10:46] <g00fy> sorry, didn't change anything yet
[10:47] <spanner3003> hi im having problems booting ubuntu 14.04 with kernels 3.13 and 3.14 but it boots with 3.11, i'm on a hp530 laptop runner ubuntu thrugh wubi on windows 8 ubuntu 13.10 upgrade
[10:47] <k1l> g00fy: * g00fy|BNC ist jetzt bekannt als g00fy
[10:47] <[deXter]> majod, ?
[10:47] <g00fy> waaaaaaaaaah?
[10:47] <g00fy> a GERMAN message????
[10:48] <k1l> g00fy: that is my client …
[10:48] <majod> [deXter]: anyway. i upgraded the kernel succesfully, no problem at all. but after i added the drivers ppa and did  sudo apt-get install mesa-vdpau-drivers, i couldnt boot the OS...had only black screen. then i rebooted and only grub showed up, but my keyboard didnt work at all in it.
[10:48] <jhelbling> !!
[10:48] <gry> ubuntu-inetd "This package provides a program used by other packages to automatically update /etc/inetd.conf, the configuration file shared by all implementations of the Internet super-server." do I need this package? I'm not a router or an isp
[10:48] <g00fy> ummm ... is it forbidden to change my nick on this channel???
[10:48] <gry> err, update-inetd even
[10:49] <bekks> spanner3003: you shouldnt use wubi - it is not intended for productive usage.
[10:49] <[deXter]> majod, did you try a dist-upgrade first, before you installed mesa?
[10:49] <genius> hi, i have a problem with gedit, when i'm editing a file over sftp, it overwrite the owner and group of file, how to manage with that ? :(
[10:49] <k1l> g00fy: see the message from the bot and the !guidelines again
[10:49] <majod> [deXter]: nope. it didnt say so in instructions...
[10:49] <bekks> genius: set the mount options accordingly, for uid and gid.
[10:50] <majod> [deXter]: can i somehow check which drivers are in use currently? acceleration in vlc is still not working...
[10:50] <spanner3003> but i'm not using it in productive usage i want to play with unity8 and mir
[10:51] <[deXter]> majod, the ppa updates core packages of your OS to newer versions.. for any ppa which does that requires you to run a dist-upgrade first
[10:51] <[deXter]> majod, do you have inxi?
[10:51] <bekks> spanner3003: Then you're better off using a dualbot instead of wubi.
[10:51] <k1l> spanner3003: first make a real install and dont use wubi
[10:51] <majod> [deXter]: i didnt know that...do you think i should do dist-upgrade now? and no, i dont know what inxi is
[10:51] <[deXter]> majod, install inxi first.. sudo apt-get install inxi  ; then type inxi -Gx and it'll tell you all the details of your gfx
[10:51] <g00fy> okay, guidelines read... so it's not about the away status. it is my nick change when going offline  -_-
[10:51] <[deXter]> majod, yeah, run the dist-upgrade right now
[10:52] <majod> [deXter]: i guess after dist upgrade i dont have to install that mesa package again
[10:53] <[deXter]> majod, If its still installed then no you won't need it
[10:53] <majod> [deXter]: ok im going to reboot now......
[10:54] <spanner3003> but installing ubuntu in an partition is hard work wubi is much easier
[10:55] <jhelbling> eichelchääs
[10:55] <spanner3003> been using wubi for 6 years with no prblems
[10:55] <majod> [deXter]: ok all should be working...just like it did before...except hw acceleration :)
[10:55] <spanner3003> *problems
[10:56] <[deXter]> majod, type inxi -Gx
[10:56] <k1l> spanner3003: wubi got a lot of problems. its for testing purposes
[10:57] <majod> [deXter]: http://pastebin.com/Sss1FMfK
[10:58] <spanner3003> well help me with testting wubi, unity8 and mir then please
[10:58] <[deXter]> majod, That's good, you're running the current drivers and DRI is on. Have you installed the mesa-vdpau-drivers ?
[10:59] <bekks> spanner3003: Install a dualboot first. Dont use wubi.
[11:00] <g00fy> k1l: going offline now for some minutes .. just to ckeck if all is fine by now.... would you tell me if it worked? kthxbye  ;-)
[11:00] <someHuman> The default backup for Ubuntu no longer work lol.
[11:01] <bekks> someHuman: Works fine for me.
[11:02] <spanner3003> i sorry but i don't like dualboot it has caused me problems in the past like corrupting the windows partition
[11:02] <dllcache> what is equivalent of win32 subsystem in linux?
[11:02] <majod> [deXter]: ill check in synaptic
[11:02] <someHuman> bekks: Mine doesn't lol. It even shows from time to time telling me that it no longer work.
[11:02] <majod> [deXter]: mesa-vdpau-drivers 10.2 is installed
[11:02] <bekks> dllcache: There is no such equivalent.
[11:03] <spanner3003> lol only have one in my testing laptop
[11:04] <[deXter]> majod, okay can you check with smplayer? I think it's just VLC that's having the issue
[11:04] <dllcache>  then binaries can directly make sysrem call to the kernel?
[11:04] <majod> [deXter]: in VLC wiki it says that vdpau will be enabled since 2.2.0...i have 2.1.5...ok ill check smplayer...btw thank you very much so far for your help, i appreaciate it
[11:04] <bekks> dllcache: What is the actual _ubuntu_ related support question you're having?
[11:04] <spanner3003> i like to play with new software and my laptop is what i use
[11:05] <someHuman> bekks: Tells me that Ubuntu One has shut down, choose another location.
[11:05] <spanner3003> im also playing with ubuntu touch on my nexus 4
[11:05] <bekks> someHuman: Yes. So dont use Ubuntu One anymore.
[11:05] <someHuman> So deja dup is a tool? I can still use that but just choose another location?
[11:05] <[deXter]> majod, Ah. That could be it then. BTW, in smplayer, you need to go to Options > Preferences > General > Video > Output driver > and choose vdpau from the drop-down list.
[11:05] <someHuman> bekks: Could you suggest where I could choose another location?
[11:05] <someHuman> What happened with Ubuntu One?
[11:06] <dllcache> i am trying to find out structure of the ubuntu can you give me picture?
[11:06] <bekks> someHuman: it discontinued.
[11:06] <someHuman> bekks: Ah ok
[11:06] <majod> [deXter]: working!
[11:06] <[deXter]> sweet :)
[11:06] <someHuman> bekks: Where's a good location to backup?
[11:06] <bekks> someHuman: if you want anouther cloud file storage service - use another.
[11:06] <majod> yay, sick
[11:06] <majod> [deXter]: thank you very much! really, amazing help :)
[11:07] <[twisti]> i wish there was an open source cloud system that was as decent as dropbox
[11:07] <majod> [deXter]: in the end, it could be working in smplayer even without kernel and drivers upgrade :) maybe
[11:07] <[twisti]> i must have tried like five different things now
[11:07] <someHuman> bekks: Like what?
[11:07] <someHuman> Dropbox?
[11:07] <someHuman> Google drive?
[11:07] <bekks> someHuman: Like "choose the service you want".
[11:07] <[deXter]> majod, yes it will but 3.14 and mesa 10.2 added a lot of improvements in the radeonsi drivers
[11:07] <someHuman> bekks: I actually don't have any idea to make matters worst haha!
[11:08] <[twisti]> google drive is open source ? what ?
[11:08] <someHuman> bekks: I just used Google Drive haha!
[11:08] <[deXter]> majod, you should check phoronix.com - they usually keep an eye on the kernel and mesa updates and tell you what's changed or what's coming up, it's quite handy to keep a track of the improvements. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=search&q=Radeon
[11:08] <[twisti]> oh sorry, you were talking to bekks, my bad
[11:09] <majod> [deXter]: yeah i read some news on phoronix about it...i didnt payed too much attention to it as i always wanted to use fglrx...but after i installed ubuntu, i found out that fglrx is not working at all in trusty...
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a suX replacement, as they removed it from trusty repos any hints?
[11:09] <someHuman> Google spawned from Open-Source. ;)
[11:09] <[deXter]> majod, with newer kernels and mesa there's actually no need for fglrx any more. Infact in some games radeon performs much better than fglrx
[11:11] <majod> [deXter]: i think so too...i hope so :) im dota2 player and it works very well with open source drivers...btw can you give me some TLDR whats the difference between gallium, radeonSI, vdpau and mesa? i found wiki articles but im not very good in this terminology :/
[11:12] <dllcache>  i want to find the complete architecture like this for ubuntu http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5"d/Windows_2000_architecture.svg/663px-Windows_2000_architecture.svg.png
[11:12] <[deXter]> majod, radeonsi, r300, r600 refers to the graphics card classes
[11:13] <[deXter]> majod, Basically they have a set of features such that a single driver can work for a whole range of cards. r600 refers to the older cards like HD3xxx, 4xxx, 5xxx, whereas radeonsi refers to the newer ones
[11:14] <majod> [deXter]: oh okay
[11:14] <[deXter]> majod, and mesa is the actual driver package
[11:14] <majod> [deXter]: and gallium is?
[11:15] <[deXter]> Gallium3D was originally a separate project similar to mesa
[11:15] <majod> hmm so why does it say "gallium 0.4" in my gpu?
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> dllcache: google architecture ubuntu and browse pictures
[11:15] <[deXter]> which was the key to the recent improvements in open-source graphics
[11:16] <ballz> hi
[11:16] <gry> hi
[11:16] <[deXter]> majod, It was later integrated into the mesa package.. its used internally by the radeon and other gfx card drivers
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> dllcache: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21347/is-there-a-schematic-overview-of-ubuntus-architecture
[11:16] <d1rkp1tt> Hi all, if anyone at all has got any sort of remote desktop/vnc to work on 14.04 I need some help. Have logged a bug for vino, have posted on the forum several times, and just again. Seems since unity that most third party VNC;s dont work anymore and the default is hopeless.
[11:17] <ballz> when i try to download from ubuntu website the x64 version of ubuntu desktop, it downloads the amd64 bit version, and theres no x64 version anywhere.. is the amd64 version, similar to privious x64(intel) version?
[11:17] <[deXter]> majod, easiest way is . .think of it like DirectX in Windows.. DirectX is the unified interface used by many graphics drivers, similarly Gallium3D is sort of a universal interface for all open-source drivers
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | d1rkp1tt
[11:18] <d1rkp1tt> lotuspsychje, ?
[11:18] <majod> [deXter]: i see. so i can say mesa<->fglrx, gallium<->directx?
[11:18] <d1rkp1tt> lotuspsychje, what use is that?
[11:19] <[deXter]> majod, yep
[11:19] <ballz> when i try to download from ubuntu website the x64 version of ubuntu desktop, it downloads the amd64 bit version, and theres no x64 version anywhere.. is the amd64 version, similar to privious x64(intel) version?
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> d1rkp1tt: most vnc are dangerous to use, so try vnc over ssh tunnel
[11:19] <indieguy87> yes
[11:19] <bekks> ballz: the amd64 is the x64 version.
[11:19] <d1rkp1tt> lotuspsychje, whats that got to do with anything at all? I do use it over ssh tunnel..
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> d1rkp1tt: or for short remote control, try teamviewer
[11:20] <ballz> bekks : you sure about it?
[11:20] <bekks> ballz: Yes, I am.
[11:20] <ballz> seems reasonable.
[11:20] <rts27> t
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> !info vino
[11:20] <d1rkp1tt> really? teamviewer? pay for remote access to something that should work on any OS.... ?
[11:21] <ballz> ok.. ty
[11:21] <d1rkp1tt> lotuspsychje, how about NOT pay for some third party solution and change distros :p
[11:22] <Andy80> hi!
[11:22] <d1rkp1tt> lotuspsychje, I run ununtu as a dev box which is a VM in another host. I access it from everywhere BUT right in front of the machine. Common enough scenario
[11:23] <Andy80> for some reason I don't know, it looks like all my TTYs are disabled: if I press CTRL+ALT+F1 I only see a black screen and a bliking cursor, no login at all. I've checked this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/357039/disable-the-ability-to-switch-to-ttys-ctrlaltf1-f6 that shows some methods to disable it, but it looks all fine in my config. How can I enable my TTYs again? and who disabled it?
[11:23] <JenniferB2> hi folks... where can i execute a script ONLY ONCE, on system start?
[11:23] <jacksparrow_> hello
[11:23] <jacksparrow_> can a server be run from virtualbox
[11:25] <bekks> jacksparrow_: Yes.
[11:25] <jacksparrow_> @bekks entirely
[11:25] <bekks> jacksparrow_: Yes.
[11:25] <jacksparrow_> and it will function as norma
[11:25] <jacksparrow_> normal
[11:26] <Aki-Thinkpad> Andy80, that is a strange happening...
[11:26] <Andy80> Aki-Thinkpad, I've tried to reboot also, but nothing changes...
[11:27] <k1l> !away > alnkpa_off
[11:27] <Andy80> xorg.conf looks fine
[11:27] <Aki-Thinkpad> Andy80, Very strange. You do not think this is a bug, do you?
[11:27] <jacksparrow_> @bekks for how long
[11:27] <bekks> jacksparrow_: For as long as you want.
[11:27] <jacksparrow_> ok thanks
[11:27] <Andy80> Aki-Thinkpad, I don't know what to think to be honest :) Ijust remember that it used to work. Surely before upgrading to 14.04
[11:27] <Aki-Thinkpad> Andy80, which distro are you using?
[11:28] <Aki-Thinkpad> ah
[11:28] <Andy80> Aki-Thinkpad, Ubuntu 14.04
[11:28] <Aki-Thinkpad> you upgrade from 13.10?
[11:28] <Andy80> upgraded from 13.10
[11:28] <Aki-Thinkpad> or 12.04?
[11:28] <Andy80> yes
[11:29] <Aki-Thinkpad> Well fresh install is always on the table; it usually is faster in the long run.
[11:29] <Aki-Thinkpad> I would not know how to go about reporting this as a bug either.
[11:29] <Aki-Thinkpad> if you want to fix your system, considering I really do not know linux at that level, I think #linux would be a great channel to ask in.
[11:30] <Aki-Thinkpad> this more of a "Under the hood issue"
[11:30] <indieguy87> anyone got acestream working on 14.04 yet?
[11:30] <Aki-Thinkpad> Andy80, if you do find out an answer as to how to fix it, could you come back and tell me what you did? I would like to know
[11:31] <Andy80> Aki-Thinkpad, I will do (telling you how I fixed it) but I really don't want to waste my time reinstalling just for a bug.
[11:31] <Aki-Thinkpad> Andy80, I know the feels :)
[11:31] <dw1> JenniferB2: look for the "Startup Applications" program in the dashboard
[11:32] <dw1> Andy80: http://askubuntu.com/questions/43386/how-do-i-get-my-blacked-out-ttys-back ?
[11:32] <Aki-Thinkpad> dw1 < pro support user :P
[11:33] <dw1> im pro googler :P
[11:33] <Andy80> dw1, thanks! let me see :)
[11:34] <Aki-Thinkpad> heh. I find it ironic that the question as marked as not being useful
[11:34] <Aki-Thinkpad> :P
[11:34] <toyo|work> hello
[11:34] <Aki-Thinkpad> !hello
[11:34] <dw1> Andy80: "I found out that it had to do with the VGA on my motherboard which I wasn't using. When I connected a monitor to the mobo VGA and hit CTRL-ALT-F1 the tty displayed on that monitor instead." ?
[11:35] <toyo|work> is there a way to force a package to install if it requires older deps than your system is providing?
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> !pinning | toyo|work
[11:35] <bekks> toyo|work: No, that would break the package.
[11:35] <dw1> answers are all over the place but might come up with something. :)
[11:36] <bekks> toyo|work: you have to "pin" the "old version" and it will be kept when updating.
[11:36] <Aki-Thinkpad> dw1, well how do you start a new tty?
[11:36] <Aki-Thinkpad> say for f8 or something?
[11:36] <dw1> dont know bout that
[11:37] <dw1> never needed it
[11:37] <toyo|work> hmm I see so I would need to hold the dep that it requires back?
[11:37] <Andy80> dw1, uhmm... I'm reading but I don't know if I should trust those answers. First of all the post is very very old: 3 years. Many things changed in the mean time. I could risk to do even more damages than benefits.
[11:37] <dw1> Andy80: yep
[11:37] <toyo|work> seems it may break my system
[11:37] <toyo|work> :/
[11:37] <dw1> Andy80: but try the other VGA port, im curious, and that one wont hurt :)
[11:37] <nullbyte_> !skype
[11:38] <dusf123_> !encryption
[11:38] <Andy80> dw1, I'm using DVI for PC and HDMI for my Xbox on the same monitor. I'm not using VGA.
[11:38] <nullbyte_> canonical.com/partner uses older version of skype archive for 14 version
[11:39] <dw1> Andy80: right but if you have a VGA port the tty might be showing up there like the one guy reported
[11:41] <Andy80> dw1, I think this is a bug and a weird one also.... changing back to F7 I got a black screen too.
[11:41] <Andy80> this never happened with 13.04 or 13.10
[11:41] <Andy80> if I don't change my configuration, things are supposed to keep working
[11:41] <Andy80> call it a bug in the graphic driver or whatever... but it's a bug imho
[11:42] <leonvv> Has anyone had any luck switching the control and caps lock key?
[11:44] <dw1> Andy80: after i upgraded to 14.04 i had to run apt-get install nvidia-current to get things working properly
[11:44] <Pa^2> I have 14.04 Unity running on a 2x2 monitor array.  Any way to have just one status bar instead of one on each monitor?
[11:44] <dw1> Andy80: could also add --reinstall
[11:44] <dw1> Andy80: i had been using an experimental driver
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | Pa^2
[11:45] <ice9> I tried apt-get update and it downloads a lot of changes and it happen everytime I run it,  anybody facing this?
[11:45] <Pa^2> Thanks
[11:46] <dllcache> com hardware <---> linuxkernel <-----> application service framework  <----->  ui service framework <----> binaries
[11:47] <leonvv> ice9: I believe 'update' just checks if there is a newer version available, therefore it has to query the servers where the packages live. If you want to install newer packages, you should run 'apt-get upgrade'
[11:48] <k1l> dllcache: do you have a specific technical ubuntu support question? or do you want to talk about something? for talking we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:49] <dw1> ice9: update just updates the repositories not the packages
[11:49] <ice9> leonvv: I don't mean query the servers to check that's fine, but during query each server it downloads a lot of things so after it finishes the total download is about 27MB
[11:49] <ice9> dw1: so why every time I run it, it downloads about 27MB of repo info?
[11:49] <kleman> Hello there !
[11:50] <dw1> ice9: mine says 86kB ;-/
[11:50] <k1l> ice9: apt-get update just updates the packages lists
[11:50] <kleman> I'd like to have some informations about 14.04 update, anyone ?
[11:50] <k1l> ice9: if you got a lot of PPAs that amount can differ from the ~100kb that should be on the regular repos
[11:51] <k1l> kleman: just ask
[11:51] <dw1> ice9: the B/s is the speed not the amount downloaded if thats what youre looking at
[11:51] <ice9> dw1:  k1l leonvv:   your download is 86B is correct since it's already downloaded that previously but in my case it seems it doesn't save the repo info so everytime it redownload it
[11:51] <ice9> dw1 k1l Fetched 22.4 MB in 7min 37s
[11:52] <k1l> ice9: please put the full command and output into a pastebin "sudo apt-get update"
[11:52] <k1l> !paste | ice9
[11:52] <hmamouchi> PLease How install Flash adobe On xUbuntu 14.04
[11:52] <kleman> okay, so i'm doing the update right now, it's seem to be very slow .. maybe the server are busy ? Nevermind, if i shutdown, the download will be resume at the same point ?
[11:52] <k1l> kleman: dont shutdown
[11:53] <kleman> it will stop and reset the update ?
[11:54] <ice9> k1l dw1 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7298702/
[11:55] <hmamouchi> PLease How install Flash adobe On xUbuntu 14.04
[11:56] <ice9> hmamouchi: sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[11:57] <k1l> ice9: you got some 3rd party sources in there. that can cause that bigger list
 thanks :)
[11:57] <ice9> k1l: that was the default options for 14.04
[11:58] <k1l> ice9: i dont think so. first the ip is not a standard. then the torproject repo is in no way a standard
[11:58] <ice9> k1l: it's not downloading from tor repo and the IP just selected it from the available sources
[11:59] <ice9> k1l:  in 14.04 I see "Independent" software source, what's is that?
[11:59] <Andy80> dw1, uhm... let mi try with a reinstall
[11:59] <k1l> ice9: you asked a question i answered it. if you dont like the answer it is not my fault
[12:02] <dw1> ice9, k1l: if you look you see the large downloads are from trust standard repos
[12:02] <dw1> ice9, k1l: seems similar to http://askubuntu.com/questions/135818/the-size-of-apt-get-update-lists-is-too-big/
[12:04] <dw1> ice9, k1l: maybe a problem with that ip-based mirror.. mirrordenver.fdcservers.net
[12:06] <_Rocky_> Hi I am testing Ubuntu 14.04 + gnome-shell. I have installed gnome-shell from gnome3-team ppa. I have replaced lightdm with gdm. But, I dont know where the settings are to change the desktop shell. In 12.04 + gnome-shell + gdm, we usually find GNOME, GNOME fallback and Unity as choices for the shell in the gdm login screen. In the current 14.04 setup I see only a settings(gear) icon, which when clicked gives me only 2 options "System
[12:06] <_Rocky_> Default" and "Ubuntu"
[12:06] <goneeuro> Hi guys. I am setting up an xubuntu laptop and noticed when I transfer files from the laptop to my NAS over gigabit it is extreamly slow. Currently at 8MB/sec.
[12:07] <goneeuro> I mounted to network share in fstab with cifs.
[12:07] <_Rocky_> The problem is, choosing Ubuntu logs me into unity shell and choosing System Default options gives me a blank desktop with just the wallpaper
[12:07] <_Rocky_> Thanks in advance for your help and insights.
[12:08] <goneeuro> cifs  guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8  0  0  <--- thats the settings I used.
[12:08] <goneeuro> any ideas how to speed this up?
[12:09] <dw1> _Rocky_: try installing gnome-session-flashback and/or gnome-session-fallback
[12:09] <Guest20139> dwl::how to install cvblob on ubuntu
[12:09] <dw1> _Rocky_: also I had a weird issue where choosing Gnome @ login screen brought me into unity until I reinstalled nvidia-current
[12:09] <_Rocky_> dw1: Thank you for your reply. I will. But wont this give me the older gnome2 interface?
[12:10] <Guest20139> goneeuro:how to install cvblob on ubuntu
[12:10] <Guest20139> _Rocky:how to install cvblob on ubuntu
[12:10] <_Rocky_> dw1: I see. Maybe its a driver issue. Though I dont have nvidia. I have an intel driver
[12:10] <Guest20139> k1l:how to install cvblob on ubuntu
[12:10] <Guest20139> ice9:how to install cvblob on ubuntu
[12:10] <k1l> Guest20139: dont spam users.
[12:11] <Guest20139> hmamouchi:how to install cvblob on ubuntu
[12:11] <_flood> anyone successfully get xrdp working on 14.04?
[12:11] <k1l> !info cvblob
[12:11] <_Rocky_> dw1: Also, 14.04 + GDM interface looks SO much different from th 12.04 + GDM setup
[12:11] <_flood> i get a grey screen when i connect
[12:12] <_Rocky_> do you get an option called "GNOME"?
[12:12] <hmamouchi> What is <Guest20139>
[12:12] <mmo|> Hello, when trying to install the new Ubuntu 14.04 from a bootable USB that I have created using Starup Disk Creator, it simply reboots a few minutes after showing the desktop (before the installer pops up). Anyone know how I can get some log or some info as to what goes wrong?
[12:13] <vl4kn0> Hi, I want to install unity-scope-openweathermap but it wants to remove unity. Why?
[12:13] <albi> Hey guys, I'm having this incredibly annoying problem where if I unmute my speakers there a horrible droning noise.. It's not coming from any app I can see :/
[12:14] <Guest96009> -ChanServ:how to install cvblob on ubuntu?
[12:14] <ira_> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19085047/how-to-install-cvblob-on-ubuntu-12-04
[12:15] <k1l> Guest96009: amir: stop it.  dont ask people directly ask the channel. and for cvblob ask cvblob  for support it is not in the ubuntu repos
[12:15] <thomson21> how do i know if java is installed?
[12:15] <_Rocky_> ira_: lol, I was just going to paste that link :)
[12:15] <ira_> heh
[12:15] <_Rocky_> first result ;)
[12:15] <kostkon> thomson21, sudo update-java-alternatives -l   to list all the installed jvms
[12:16] <DJ_Unibob> I see 14.04 is out. :)
[12:16] <thomson21> kostkon, thanks
[12:16] <dw1> _Rocky_: I havent tried running without gnome-session-fallback or flashback, and am not certain what version of gnome is running, but i think its 3.  and my interface looks pretty similar between 12.04, 13.10 and 14.04
[12:16] <ice9> dw1: yeah it's the same bug that apt-get doesn't update the repo file timestamp
[12:17] <DJ_Unibob> Has anyone had any issues upgrading from 13.10 to 14.04?
[12:17] <dw1> _Rocky_: I dont even have gnome-shell installed :/
[12:17] <_Rocky_> dw1: Okay. I am installing flashback right now. Lets see if it solves the issue
[12:18] <_Rocky_> dw1: Just curious. Do you have the gnome 2 style interface? with the top bar and the bottom bar. Or the newer one with only a black top bar
[12:18] <thomson21> kostkon, that results in this java-1.7.0-openjdk-amd64 1071 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-amd64
[12:18] <thomson21> kostkon, i assume that means it's installed
[12:18] <_Rocky_> okay. gonna restart. will be back in a jiffy
[12:18] <kostkon> thomson21, openjdk7 yes
[12:19] <thomson21> kostkon, that wouldn't be the one required to load java applets in firefox?
[12:20] <_Rocky_> And I am back
[12:20] <dw1> _Rocky_: i have taskbar....
[12:20] <_Rocky_> dw1: Gotcha
[12:22] <kostkon> thomson21, no, you'll need icedtea-plugin for that
[12:23] <_Rocky_> dw1: Success. Thank you very much
[12:23] <dw1> _Rocky_: cool
[12:23] <_Rocky_> I am confused though. Installing gnome session fallback gets me gnome-shell!!
[12:24] <dw1> my understanding is fallback and flashback are essentially the same.. not sure of relation to gnome-shell.. i dont have gnome-shell. :)
[12:24] <_Rocky_> I see
[12:25] <linu1> hi i have used the alsamixer for changing the sound,i had put 100 % volume,and i saved using "alsactrl store" command,but after every reboot it automatically set default 80 speaker volume,the previously set volume  didnot saved, what is that issues?
[12:25] <thomson21> kostkon, ok, would it be better to just install java from the official site?
[12:26] <kostkon> thomson21, install it,  sudo apt-get install icedtea-plugin  and then test it.  if your applets don't work well with it, then you can consider installing the version from oracle
[12:26] <mackwerk> Goodmorning, I have this script which modifies my prompt, but it seems that the regex part on line #72 isn't working after i upgraded to 14.04 (clean install) https://dpaste.de/JbNr#L72 does anyone know why?
[12:26] <_Rocky_> thomson21: I belive that java would be the oracle version. Not the open version.
[12:26] <kostkon> thomson21, don't forget to restart your browser
[12:26] <mackwerk> The output is just "k@k ~/git/dot-laptop () $" instead of "k@k ~/git/dot-laptop (master) $"
[12:29] <thomson21> kostkon, ok thanks
[12:31] <dw1> mackwerk: lines 70-78 arent getting the branch apparently.  why? who knows. not relaly supported. :)
[12:31] <toyo|work> is there samba4 in 14.04?
[12:31] <dw1> mackwerk: ask the script author
[12:31] <toyo|work> Package 'samba4' has no installation candidate
[12:31] <toyo|work> I just get that when trying to install it
[12:32] <mackwerk> dw1: Yep I know, thought I'd ask in here first. Thanks
[12:33] <Toaster_Strudel> I'm getting a linux header files missing error. I think I wiped them out with a drive cleanup program
[12:33] <dw1> toyo|work: seems no http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=samba4
[12:33] <Toaster_Strudel> easy way to get them back?
[12:33] <toyo|work> hmm maybe samba is really samba4
[12:33] <mmo|> Hello, when trying to install the new Ubuntu 14.04 from a bootable USB that I have created using Starup Disk Creator, it simply reboots a few minutes after showing the desktop (before the installer pops up). Anyone know how I can get some log or some info as to what goes wrong?
[12:34] <Toaster_Strudel> linux-headers-generic-lts-raring: Depends: linux-headers-3.8.0-38-generic but it is not installed
[12:34] <dw1> toyo|work: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+package/samba4
[12:35] <dw1> toyo|work: perhaps in the "proposed" repository
[12:35] <toyo|work> Status: Superseded
[12:35] <dw1> toyo|work: enable that
[12:35] <toyo|work> maybe there is samba5 now
[12:35] <DJ_Unibob> and...installing upgrades, bbl.
[12:35] <toyo|work> XD
[12:36] <dw1> toyo|work: dont push luck :P
[12:36] <toyo|work> dw1: I see what has happened
[12:36] <toyo|work> samba now provides samba4
[12:37] <thomson21> kostkon, works perfect, thanks :-)
[12:37] <kostkon> thomson21, np
[12:38] <raalex> which alternative to Ubuntu One is decent
[12:38] <toyo|work> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/samba
[12:38] <raalex> I am trying Dropbox right now but it seems that it's very limited
[12:38] <toyo|work> seems they are providing 4.1.6
[12:38] <raalex> in that I can only sync stuff that is in my Dropbox folder
[12:38] <StrangeNoises> Ah ffs linux. i needed to print something (an ebay shipping label). i had done this before, and it had worked. so i hadn't changed any settings. because it worked. but this time, it didn't work. jobs just sat "Held" in the queue with some unspecified printer error.
[12:38] <rypervenche> raalex: SpiderOak isn't bad otherwise you could set up your own service like that on a personal server.
[12:38] <raalex> I would be fine with payout for the Google Drive Client, if it works well
[12:38] <StrangeNoises> status bar message in print queue dialog suggested printer drivers needed installing. (remember, this has worked before.) so as suggested I ran hp-plugin, which seemed to complete normally. but still no success
[12:39] <Semor> my vmware has 2 nic ,which is eth0 and eth1 ,working at bridge mode , do they use the same mac ?in the term of other pysical host in the same local network ?
[12:39] <raalex> payout=paying
[12:39] <StrangeNoises> reboot, just in case. nope. although trying to print stuff now i just get a status "Stopped" with no explanation at all
[12:39] <dw1> toyo|work: oh i saw the 2 and thought v2
[12:39] <raalex> thanks StrangeNoises, I'll look into that
[12:39] <StrangeNoises> resolved by saving it to PDF and printing it from a mac. Yeah the printer's working just fine.
[12:39] <dw1> toyo|work: yeah i have 2:4.1.6
[12:39] <toyo|work> cool
[12:39] <toyo|work> all is well then
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[12:39] <toyo|work> trying to get sogo setup on my server
[12:39] <toyo|work> :D
[12:40] <toyo|work> got openvpn setup so my home and 2 servers are connected
[12:40] <toyo|work> time to start getting services up
[12:40] <toyo|work> :D
[12:40] <StrangeNoises> moral of the story: if you need to print, keep a mac around, because linux will let. you. down.
[12:40] <Guest96009> how to install cvblob on ubuntu? anyone help me please?
[12:41] <dw1> toyo|work: good times
[12:41] <toyo|work> StrangeNoises: might be a dumb question...but is cups running?
[12:41] <StrangeNoises> yes
[12:42] <StrangeNoises> (this is ubuntu trusty btw, printer entirely set up via dialogues; had been impressed how easy it was
[12:42] <StrangeNoises> ... until it spontaneously decided it wasn't going to work any more
[12:42] <dw1> ubuntu 'just works' with my printer.
[12:42] <toyo|work> ah
[12:42] <toyo|work> I had issues with my printer on WIFI so I moved it to ethernet
[12:42] <toyo|work> works great there
[12:43] <toyo|work> :D
[12:43] <toyo|work> suspect there was something wrong with my wifi though
[12:43] <StrangeNoises> ethernet isn't an option; besides, i don't think that's the problem, given when i fell back to using the mac (which goes via the same wifi base station) it all instantly worked
[12:43] <amirtharaj> help me: how to install cvblob on ubuntu
[12:43] <_ramok> hi
[12:43] <StrangeNoises> also the linux computer could easily *see* that the network printer was there
[12:43] <toyo|work> hmm
[12:43] <StrangeNoises> just decided it didn't want to print to it any more
[12:44] <k1l> amirtharaj: whats with the link you were given?
[12:44] <StrangeNoises> it's the "any more" bit that really gets me. It was working. i was happy. i changed nothing. it stopped working.
[12:44] <toyo|work> sounds like an issue with the print spooler
[12:44] <amirtharaj> https://github.com/oostendo/cvblob-python/blob/master/README.markdown#license
[12:45] <amirtharaj> this is used link for cvblob
[12:45] <toyo|work> StrangeNoises: http://127.0.0.1:631/jobs/
[12:45] <toyo|work> anything in there?
[12:45] <k1l> amirtharaj: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19085047/how-to-install-cvblob-on-ubuntu-12-04
[12:45] <StrangeNoises> State: stopped <em>"Filter failed"</em>
[12:45] <amirtharaj> i am using ubuntu 14.04? its will support?
[12:46] <StrangeNoises> the two jobs there now are just attempts to print the test page
[12:46] <k1l> amirtharaj: see cvblobs howto: https://code.google.com/p/cvblob/wiki/HowToInstall
[12:47] <amirtharaj> i tried a lots of lot...but i having the following error
[12:47] <toyo|work> StrangeNoises: http://askubuntu.com/questions/378873/cant-print-any-more-stopped-filter-failed
[12:47] <toyo|work> see if that helps
[12:48] <amirtharaj> >>> import cv
[12:48] <amirtharaj> >>> import cvblob
[12:48] <amirtharaj> Traceback (most recent call last):
[12:48] <amirtharaj>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
[12:48] <amirtharaj> ImportError: No module named cvblob
[12:48] <toyo|work> StrangeNoises: what brand of printer is it?
[12:48] <k1l> amirtharaj: you need to compile it first. see the installation howto form cvblob
[12:49] <qinglan> 有没有Chinese？
[12:49] <kostkon> !cn | qinglan
[12:49] <StrangeNoises> toyo|work, HP Laserjet Professional 1102w
[12:50] <toyo|work> hmm ok
[12:50] <amirtharaj> i am used your link and everything...but here no compilation process! then what to do..please help me sir
[12:51] <toyo|work> StrangeNoises: /var/log/cups/error_log <----that may be useful
[12:51] <StrangeNoises> already looking
[12:51] <StrangeNoises> prnt/hpcups/HPCupsFilter.cpp 456: m_Job initialization failed with error = 48
[12:51] <toyo|work> should say what filter is broken
[12:52] <StrangeNoises> PID 3809 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups) stopped with status 1.
[12:53] <amirtharaj> Sir!!compilation method is cmake-> make->  make install...i was successfully completed ..but not working
[12:53] <Bluewolf> When burning an Ubuntu Operating system to DVD confirm it is safer to burn at - 4,0x (DVD)  ?
[12:53] <toyo|work> hmm
[12:54] <StrangeNoises> i'm running hp-setup on the offchance
[12:54] <StrangeNoises> as per that page you linked
[12:54] <toyo|work> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/77139/filter-failed-from-hplip
[12:54] <StrangeNoises> not forgetting that it used to work just fine without me having to do all that
[12:54] <StrangeNoises> (i think using foomatic)
[12:54] <toyo|work> StrangeNoises: yeah I am well aware of that
[12:54] <thomson21> kostkon, ok, maybe it doesn't. it's runescape that i am trying to get to work. i loaded then said this is the first time playing and wanted to auto configure my graphics settings then it just stops working there
[12:55] <toyo|work> only thing I could think is that something got updated having to do with cups or your printer drivers
[12:55] <StrangeNoises> ok hp-setup's test page printed
[12:56] <StrangeNoises> toyo|work, it's possible; ironically: I have been running trusty for several weeks, but it only recently went into release; maybe there was some recent update to cups just before, and after the last time i printed
[12:57] <toyo|work> yeah
[12:57] <StrangeNoises> though i printed ok from a different trusty machine only yesterday and i keep 'em all up to date
[12:57] <toyo|work> thats what I am thinking
[12:57] <StrangeNoises> and there wasn't any updates since then
[12:57] <toyo|work> hmm
[12:57] <kostkon> thomson21, hmm, yeah, then try installing the latest version of oracle java https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_Java_7  to might need to set it as the default jvm afterwards using the update-java-alternatives command
[12:57] <toyo|work> magic
[12:57] <kostkon> you*
[12:58] <Bluewolf> When burning an Ubuntu Operating system to DVD confirm it is safer to burn at a low speed such as? - 4,0x (DVD)
[12:59] <thomson21> kostkon, do i need to remove iced tea and openjdk7?
[12:59] <kostkon> thomson21, no
[12:59] <thomson21> kostkon, ok
[12:59] <StrangeNoises> hm. i now have two printers showing; which was the one that worked? :-)
[12:59] <b1001> Hi guys. Im playing a game where I need to use alt q, alt w etc.. but some of the keybinding doesn't work. I disabled the alt hud.
[12:59] <kostkon> thomson21, not necessary since you can easily set a default jvm
[12:59] <thomson21> kostkon, k
[13:00] <StrangeNoises> they both work now
[13:00] <StrangeNoises> the one i just set up, and the one i already had
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[13:00] <StrangeNoises> printers!
[13:00] <StrangeNoises> thanks for your time anyway toyo|work :-)
[13:01] <StrangeNoises> probably running hp-setup triggered a reset of something
[13:02] <toyo|work> hahaha
[13:02] <toyo|work> yes
[13:02] <toyo|work> it likely installed a missing filter
[13:02] <toyo|work> er reinstalled it
[13:03] <dw1> Bluewolf: i doubt its much of a concern
[13:03] <dw1> Bluewolf: but rumours about these types of things abound :)
[13:03] <dw1> Bluewolf: i mostly use USB drives not CDs these days
[13:04] <clue_h> i use zip drives
[13:04] <dw1> clue_h: joking?  i had one of those......
[13:05] <clue_h> dw1, yes, just messing
[13:05] <dw1> clue_h: thought there might be new ones or something...... lol
[13:05] <dw1> clue_h: such a pain they were
[13:05] <Guest82758> o o
[13:05] <clue_h> dw1, if new ones work in ubuntu, i'll try
[13:06] <Guest82758> what about it?
[13:07] <_ramok> hey
[13:07] <Bluewolf> dw1: It does appear to be a more logical way, one which I am starting to look into as it does save me a CD or DVD. I have done it once and this will be my last time with DVD, its convenient at the moment.
[13:07] <Roberta18>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://j.mp/1gAh6Jy
[13:07] <dw1> Bluewolf: :D
[13:08] <_ramok> i've wrote an upstart script. if i look into my process list with ps aux |grep rad:fetch-buying i don't see a process running, but when i try to start the upstart script with "start my_script" i get the message: start: Job is already running: rad_fetch_buying
[13:08] <_ramok> any ideas how i can kill everything what is related to this?
[13:08] <Bluewolf> dw1: Thanks, just making sure my intelligence is not dropping :D
[13:08] <dw1> _ramok: is your grep correct
[13:09] <_ramok> dw1: i take the parts from the grep out of the upstart script
[13:09] <_ramok> so it should be, yes
[13:09] <dw1> _ramok: i mean when you look manually
[13:09] <opengyan> Hello , Running 13.10. I  was leaning (!!) dd command and accidentely created  huge file on my /home .... df shows /home 100% . and it is not mounting
[13:09] <opengyan> *learning
[13:09] <dw1> _ramok: or yeah
[13:09] <_ramok> dw1: you mean just look to ps aux ?
[13:10] <dw1> _ramok: first have to determine if its script error or something to actually be killed :)
[13:10] <dw1> _ramok: something running should show in ps auxw
[13:11] <_ramok> dw1: it's an php process, so if i search for ps aux |grep php i see some php processes , but not this one
[13:11] <_ramok> dw1: do you have another idea?
[13:12] <dw1> _ramok: debug the script
[13:12] <dw1> _ramok: not really #ubuntu stuff :(
[13:12] <_ramok> hm
[13:12] <opengyan> how do I recover /home ?
[13:13] <amirtharaj> how to install cvblob on ubuntu?
[13:13] <dw1> from where, and is it encrypted?
[13:13] <dw1> amirtharaj: google should tell you
[13:13] <dw1> amirtharaj: put what you asked as a query :)
[13:14] <dw1> opengyan: what happened to your home
[13:15] <amirtharaj> it wont give the proper solution
[13:15] <opengyan> dw1, I used dd command which appearently created huge file and with that /home is 100% as per df command
[13:16] <dw1> opengyan: what dd command did you run exactly /
[13:16] <opengyan> now on reboot... it shows /home not mounted.... running ubuntu 13.10
[13:16] <opengyan> dw1, I need to recollect...please wait
[13:18] <georgerock88> Estou com problema no Driver da AMD 8670M, não funciona nas versões 13.10 e 14.04.  ALGUÉM TEM A SOLUÇÃO?
[13:18] <bad63r> Does anyone here playing HoN on Ubuntu 14.04 Unity and no lags? pls help me
[13:18] <dw1> !es | georgerock88
[13:20] <georgerock88> #ubuntu-es
[13:21] <opengyan> dw1, it was      dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=2M count=1000 conv=fdatasync
[13:22] <opengyan> sorry i forgot the of=/dev/sda9
[13:22] <raalex> just fyi
[13:22] <dw1> georgerock88: ou "/join # ubuntu-pt", mas não há muitas pessoas lá ...
[13:22] <raalex> he is/was not speaking spanish
[13:22] <raalex> but portuguese
[13:22] <dw1> opengyan: oh :(
[13:23] <dw1> opengyan: so of=/dev/sda9 not test ?
[13:23] <opengyan> yes ..which is my /home unfortunatly...
[13:23] <opengyan> dw1,yes...
[13:23] <dw1> opengyan: yeah home is gone for good i think :(
[13:24] <dw1> opengyan: to recover... hmm
[13:24] <opengyan> dw1,ok...thankfuly not much data..I belive I can delete that partition if not recoverble ..?
[13:24] <dw1> opengyan: yeah
[13:25] <dw1> opengyan: reformat it... and maybe even recreate the user
[13:25] <opengyan> dw1, thanks..it saved my time to do any r&d....will do thanks again...
[13:26] <thomson21> a new version of ubuntu?
[13:26] <opengyan> dw1, so of should have been not a real device ?
[13:26] <thomson21> just popped up then
[13:26] <dw1> opengyan: what did you hope to accomplish
[13:26] <dw1> opengyan: yeah with of as the partition it overwrites everything
[13:27] <dw1> opengyan: or at least, the beginning
[13:27] <dw1> opengyan: depending how much you write
[13:27] <opengyan> I was learing file system performance testing....and dd as util to know how fast things are ,,,
[13:27] <opengyan> dw1,I was learing file system performance testing....and dd as util to know how fast things are ,,,
[13:27] <dw1> opengyan: of=test would have been better :)
[13:27] <dw1> opengyan: that just writes a file
[13:28] <dw1> opengyan: /dev/sdaX is the file handler for a whole partition
[13:28] <opengyan> dw1, oh ok....but good lesson ....playing with fs not a joke...
[13:28] <dw1> opengyan: yep.
[13:29] <opengyan> dw1, thanks !
[13:29] <dw1> opengyan: np
[13:30] <gmansilla> how do I list all versions available to install using apt-get?
[13:30] <terrasapien> gmansilla, apt-cache policy package
[13:31] <gmansilla> terrasapien: well, I am trying to install an old version of php
[13:32] <gmansilla> and I remember a command that lists all versions available in the repo
[13:34] <stef1a> I upgraded to 14.04 yesterday, but my installation stopped mid-way when it failed to install redmine. I just purged redmine from my system. How can I resume the 14.04 upgrade from where it left off?
[13:35] <georgerock88_> Hello I need help, my video card AMD 8670M does not work in version 13:10 and 14:04. Does anyone have solution to this problem?
[13:36] <dw1> stef1a: do-release-upgrade will resume, provided all the initial repository changes took place, i think
[13:37] <koniect> is there a way I can list all the hosts in my .ssh/config? trying to copy a config over to all of them quickly
[13:37] <babyswizz> I can't seem to find the /etc/inittab file in my ubuntu 13.04
[13:38] <babyswizz> just trying to findout if am working on the graphical or text mode
[13:39] <bigred15> Hi, I accidentally unselected existing tasks using 'tasksel' - how do I fix this?
[13:39] <babyswizz> the tutorial am working on says I should open the file and I can find out the defualt mode of my computer
[13:40] <qinglan> hi~,I find conky has some bug in Ubuntu 14.04
[13:42] <chris__> Does anyone know why I keep getting this error with autofs?  mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.178.251:/Volume_1
[13:42] <qinglan> http://imagebin.org/306759
[13:42] <qinglan> this is picture
[13:42] <qinglan> who can tell me how to fix it?
[13:43] <qinglan> nobody?
[13:43] <_Trullo> fix what?
[13:44] <dw1> babyswizz: i dont have that file.  btw 13.04 is no longer supported so keep that on the down-low :P
[13:44] <Daghdha> Hi, i booted a USB with ubuntu 14.04 on it and the gfx speed is acceptable for me. I wonder if this is exactly how it will be in desktop mode installed on the HDD. OR that maybe the ISO 'burned' to an usb key uses different graphics?
[13:45] <bigred15> Anybody know how I can fix my mistake that I made using tasksel? :|
[13:45] <dw1> bigred15: tasksel again and enable them?  not sure
[13:46] <bigred15> dw1: Yeah, I could try that but I fear it may break further :(
[13:47] <dw1> bigred15: all i have selected is these https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ssg1dp02ixkoj5/screen1.png
[13:47] <dw1> bigred15: you could use apt-get install --reinstall
[13:48] <dw1> bigred15: not sure what package(s) for the print driver  tho
[13:48] <dw1> bigred15: LAMP is for web development you might not need that
[13:48] <raalex> Google Chrome has taken over my system, and even though Firefox is set up as default browser
[13:48] <raalex> ever link that I open somewhere outside of firefox
[13:48] <raalex> is opened in chrome
[13:48] <bigred15> dw1: Yeah i was trying to install LAMP at the time; however, I misunderstood the usage of tasksel.
[13:48] <Swarnava> can anyone help to recover my grub? i successfully tried with bootrepair disk but didnt recover yet
[13:48] <raalex> anyone know how to fix this without uninstalling chrome?
[13:48] <Swarnava> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7299301/
[13:48] <pheelbert> that sounds terrible
[13:49] <Swarnava> i got this pastebin log
[13:49] <Swarnava> can anyone help me?
[13:49] <dw1> bigred15: instead of that 'lamp stack' tutorial i might simply do apt-get install apache2 php mysql
[13:49] <bigred15> yeah I should have done that.
[13:49] <thomson21> i get a permission denied when i use this command ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so /usr/lib/firefox/browser/plugins/
[13:49] <bigred15> --reinstall option didnt work
[13:49] <bigred15> box is fairly broken it seems
[13:50] <ePierre> hi people!
[13:50] <ePierre> do you know how to force the creation/installation of the man pages of a given package?
[13:50] <ePierre> I installed the package zsh, but it didn't install the man pages
[13:51] <ePierre> so when I type man zsh it tells me
[13:51] <ePierre> No manual entry for zsh
[13:51] <ePierre> See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available.
[13:52] <Swarnava> anybody there?
[13:52] <pheelbert> does anyone know where apt-add-repository downloads the files?
[13:52] <thomson21> do i need sudo in front of that command?
[13:57] <oomsyspython_> how to block the websites as locally on ubuntu
[13:57] <oomsyspython_> anybody help me
[13:58] <Swarnava> sorry for disconnection, can anyone help me?
[13:59] <chris__> Does anyone know why I keep getting this error with autofs?  mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.178.251:/Volume_1
[14:01] <bumbar> is there some tool available to save/restore terminal sessions?
[14:02] <penguin42> chris__: Probably because you've not configured the exports correctly on the server
[14:02] <qinglan_> 有没有会中文的？
[14:02] <k1l_> !cn | qinglan
[14:03] <chris__> penguin42: It is a D-Link NAS. I used this guide to try to set it up.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountNFSSharesWithoutAutofsHowto
[14:03] <chris__> I checked and the NAS says that NFS is enabled.
[14:03] <penguin42> chris__: Try running showmount -e 192.168.178.251
[14:04] <penguin42> chris__: That should show the list of filesystems that the server is exporting
[14:04] <chris__> I had cifs working with fstab but the trasfer speed was topping out at 8MB/sec.
[14:04] <penguin42> speedy
[14:05] <chris__> penguin42: mnt/HD/HD_a2/P2P *
[14:05] <chris__> /mnt/HD/HD_a2     192.168.178.251
[14:05] <chris__> over gigabit by the way.
[14:05] <penguin42> chris__: OK, that suggests it's not /Volume1 that you need to mount, (assuming 251 is the client you're coming from)
[14:08] <marlo> how do i report a bug regarding 14.04
[14:09] <penguin42> run ubuntu-bug
[14:09] <marlo> sudo or user-space ?
[14:09] <penguin42> just normal user
[14:10] <goneeuro> Sorry. Got disconnected.
[14:10] <goneeuro> old user was chris_
[14:10] <marlo> i think this is an X.org bug... it's regarding the lock-screen.  if I'm running virtual-box windows and the screen locks, and virtualbox windows is the 'active and full screen' window, the keyboard doesn't work to unlock the machine
[14:10] <marlo> am i correct that's an X.org bug, penguin42
[14:11] <marlo> or is that security ?
[14:11] <OerHeks> marlo, looks like a virtualbox issue, or windows
[14:11] <Pici> marlo: I think there was a possibly related bug mentioned in the release notes.
[14:11] <penguin42> marlo: Yeh I'd say that's a virtualbox problem
[14:11] <marlo> but, this wasn't a problem on 13.10
[14:12] <goneeuro> penguin42: I had to reconnect. did you say anything to me after I said I was trying to connect over gigabit?
[14:12] <goneeuro> old nickname was chris_
[14:12] <Pici> marlo: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes#Desktop and https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1305586
[14:12] <penguin42> goneeuro: Oh, please keep the same nick, it's confusing
[14:13] <penguin42> goneeuro: OK, that suggests it's not /Volume1 that you need to mount, (assuming 251 is the client you're coming from)
[14:13] <goneeuro> 251 is my NAS.
[14:13] <goneeuro> my computer is 20.
[14:14] <goneeuro> penguin42: The share on my nas is called Volume_1
[14:14] <alket> is urbanterror game alive ?
[14:15] <FoolsRun> Hey all, anyone ever seen a 14.04 install (upgraded from 12.04) that doesn't deliver HDMI audio to the monitor?  Here's the thing: I can "see" in volume control that sound is happening, but it's not playing through the TV's speakers. It worked in 12.04.
[14:15] <goneeuro> penguin42: this is the line I put in fstab to get a working cifs connection.  //KCHNA001/Volume_1  /media/NAS  cifs  guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8  0  0
[14:17] <ali__> to every body:i want to get all processes that they are running in foreground
[14:17] <linux2> Perhaps someone can help me out with this odd icmp redirect issue I'm having. I've configured sysctl.conf to allow icmp redirect, but when running a ping it only seems to follow the redirect on the first attempt. Then subsequent pings it just says "destination host unreachable". What more interesting is that it sometimes works after fiddling with /etc/sysctl.conf. It also works perfectly fine on windows. Any ideas?
[14:18] <xfce> hi, did any1 have try to run lineage or any other game with gameguard under 14.04 ?
[14:23] <goneeuro> penguin42: You still there?
[14:24] <penguin42> nod
[14:24] <goneeuro> ha. ok
[14:24] <penguin42> goneeuro: But see the output of showmount -e    - it shows you the paths that the fileserver is exporting
[14:25] <goneeuro> ok. should I try that in the fstab?
[14:25] <jhutchins> Is there a way to display how much disk space is available to users vs. reserved for system/root?
[14:25] <Mrokii> Hello. It seems that Window shade (clicking on a window titlebar to "roll up" the window) doesn't work anymore in 14.04. All it does is to leave some strange frame where the window was (the window itself is made invisible). Looks like a bug to me.
[14:25] <penguin42> goneeuro: Yes I would, although I don't know anything about the fileserver you're using  - the other possibility is you need to tell it to export another path
[14:26] <goneeuro> I tried this line in fstab and it did not work. 192.168.178.251:/mnt/HD/HD_a2  /media/NAS  nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,nosuid,soft 0 0
[14:26] <Toaster_Strudel> linux-headers-generic-lts-raring: Depends: linux-headers-3.8.0-38-generic but it is not installed
[14:26] <hay> hi all.. I am getting "dpkg-statoverride: error: an override for '/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-24-generic' already exists; aborting" when doing "apt-get install linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic".. I am unable to find any information on how to move further with the issue... tia
[14:26] <OerHeks> jhutchins, only if the users /home/ is seperate
[14:26] <thomson21> i'm assuming java did not work because i installed java 64bit and tried to use it in firefox which is 32bit?
[14:26] <Toaster_Strudel> can I just apt-get install the headers?
[14:27] <Trieste> Hi! I've got a laptop which definitely has a wi-fi adapter, but ifconfig nor iwconfig have an interface corresponding to it (no "wlan0") - what to do?
[14:27] <Trieste> Also, I've got the drivers loaded, according to the output of lspci -k
[14:28] <sanjud> Hello Team, please address me how can I configure displaylink in xubuntu 14.04
[14:28] <goneeuro> penguin42: I tried this line in fstab and it did not work. 192.168.178.251:/mnt/HD/HD_a2  /media/NAS  nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,nosuid,soft 0 0
[14:29] <goneeuro> penguin42: sorry. Im new to these irc chat rooms so I keep making mistakes like forgetting to tag your name in the post.
[14:30] <penguin42> goneeuro: same error or a different one?
[14:31] <pheelbert> I can't build sfml to save my life
[14:31] <goneeuro> penguin42: same error. acsess denied by server.
[14:31] <thomson21> hmm, i do have 64bit firefox Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:28.0)
[14:32] <penguin42> goneeuro: Hmm if it was a linux server I'd go look in /etc/exports to see how the exports was setup, but I don't know anything about your NAS
[14:33] <eduhat> I had a client ask me a wierd question, they need to allow more socket connections to his VPS. He has made changes in sysctl.conf but he is getting timeouts still.
[14:36] <Trieste> Hi! I've got a laptop which definitely has a wi-fi adapter, gnome's network-manager sees it and works with it, but ifconfig nor iwconfig have an interface corresponding to it (no "wlan0") - what to do?
[14:37] <pentatonic> hello everyone, could you maybe recommend me a tool to download multiple links on a web page? I'd like to download a book that is presented with each chapter having its own download link.
[14:38] <Trieste> pentatonic: wget, with some command line options and magic :)
[14:38] <pentatonic> Trieste, just searched for it, and found a tool named download.sh..you mean this one?
[14:38] <Trieste> pentatonic: no, I mean wget
[14:39] <Trieste> it's a command-line tool, probably a bit advanced if you're not used to working with the command line
[14:39] <pentatonic> Trieste, I might not be that advanced for wizardry over command line :)
[14:40] <kang_> ABC
[14:45] <abc> Hi I have lost the default folders (pictures, documents, downloads etc ) of my home folder. How can I get them back?
[14:46] <cappe> et
[14:47] <cappe> where is the pipelight.conrf located in Ubuntu?
[14:48] <bitnumus> pentatonic, you'll have to write some kind of script
[14:48] <bitnumus> or use wget with some switches if all the links are actually present on the page
[14:48] <DJ_Unibob> It seems upgrading to 14.04 broke my system.
[14:48] <bitnumus> 'man wget'
[14:48] <cappe> pls
[14:48] <pentatonic> bitnumus, it might take me shorter to download chapters one by one :)
[14:49] <bitnumus> maybe
[14:49] <bitnumus> read the manual, wget is pretty powerful
[14:49] <pentatonic> bitnumus, or do you have such a code readily at hand for me?
[14:49] <pentatonic> :)
[14:49] <DJ_Unibob> Can log in to KDE, but with what appears to be 1024 x 768 and only one display working.
[14:50] <bitnumus> pentatonic, whats the filetype ?
[14:50] <cappe> I wanna enable hardware accceleration
[14:50] <DJ_Unibob> cannot load the unity desktop, which just hangs at the loading screen.
[14:50] <pentatonic> bitnumus, they're all pdf
[14:50] <cappe> nobody knows where the conf file is located?
[14:51] <brothersome> DJ_Unibob, I installed lxde and can start from that
[14:51] <bitnumus> pentatonic, try something like  'wget -A pdf -nc -np <url>'
[14:52] <pentatonic> bitnumus, should I replace "url" with the page's url?
[14:52] <thomson21> why would openjdk still be taking preference when i have told it not to using sudo update-alternatives --config java
[14:52] <bitnumus> yes, pentatonic PM me it and i'll give it a try
[14:52] <monkeynaut> in unity, is there a way to have all new launchers open after my locked launchers instead of alphabetically?   i have firefox and thunderbird locked, but when i open Gimp it slides in between Firefox and Thunderbird
[14:53] <highrise2357> Hello everyone; I just recently upgraded to Ubuntu 14.04 and I'm having some problems with the GUI: when I boot, I start on a tty screen and switching to the GUI results in a black screen. This isn't the first time I've booted into 14.04 though.
[14:54] <highrise2357> I ran jockey-text and nothing showed up
[14:54] <tijsi> hi. After the distribution upgrade, which did not complete, my computer wont boot at all. just shows a blank screen. any help?
[14:54] <KEEE> 14.04 is good?
[14:54] <highrise2357> However, I have the latest version nvidia-current installed.
[14:54] <highrise2357> Any help would be greatly appreciated, and thanks in advance.
[14:55] <ylolek> @KEEE: trusty is pretty cool. ive just install after 12.04, and it is also faster.
[14:55] <Xaft> I am currently running Ubuntu 14.04. Currently to lock the computer I use <super>+l. I want to make so only <super>+l unlocks the computer. Anyone got an idea how to do this?
[14:55] <DJ_Unibob> gah, can't use the software center either.
[14:55] <lblume> Iḿ confused, isn't 14.04 an LTS version? The update manager in Saucy does not display it if it is set to display only LTS upgrade options
[14:55] <stork91> looking for proper channel to discuss how Onboard touchscreen keyboard looks better and is more customizable than anything else in Ubuntu.
[14:55] <brothersome> DJ_Unibob, sudo apt-get install lxde
[14:56] <DJ_Unibob> "New software can't be installed, because there is a problem with the software currently installed, do you want to repair this problem now?"
[14:56] <OerHeks> stork91, join #ubuntu-touch
[14:56] <Konata_> Hi all, attempting to run apt-get update on 13.10 x64, receiving the following error: "W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy-security_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch"
[14:57] <highrise2357> Can the gui be started with sudo startx?
[14:57] <stork91> OerHeks: nono, I am looking to change Ubuntu 14.04's theme
[14:57] <DJ_Unibob> after i hit repair, the app crashed, trying that command in the terminal now brothersome
[14:57] <ylolek> also had problems with my ati card. i had to do lots of tricks to get it work properly. on 14.04 it just works fine, after install
[14:57] <highrise2357> DJ_Unibob: this is just a guess, but I would try sudo apt-get install -f
[14:57] <stork91> specifically I am trying to change the icon selection color, as previous methods seem to not work.
[14:58] <DJ_Unibob> I will attempt that if the current grabbing of lxde fails.
[14:58] <peterpacz1> Question - How can I find saved windows wireless passwords from ubuntu? Currently I have located the directory that the saved wifi passwords are stored in, but they are encrypted in some sort of alphanumeric string. How can I access those passwords on Ubuntu?
[14:58] <brothersome> DJ_Unibob, lxde  is a light environment and looks like Windows
[14:58] <highrise2357> I'll add that booting into a previous kernel version does not resolve my issue
[14:59] <keevitaja> hi, can somebody speculate something for me... i've been using linux about two weaks now and some things are just so much faster compared to windows 7. for example thunderbird checks gmail like 5 times faster then my outlooked did. what is the magic behind it? and gmail has allways been slow as long as i have used it
[14:59] <highrise2357> it would appear it has something to do with packages
[14:59] <DJ_Unibob> nothing on that highrise2357 0 upgraded, 0 removed, 0 to remove, and 0 to be upgraded
[14:59] <DJ_Unibob> err, 0 not upgraded
[15:00] <tijsi> keevitaja: are u using imap or pop with thunderbird
[15:00] <tijsi> imap should be faster
[15:00] <keevitaja> imap both
[15:00] <keevitaja> and gmail was slow with xp as well
[15:00] <tijsi> never used outlook, always thunderbird. its generally fast
[15:00] <highrise2357> Basically, when I run jockey-text, I get nothing
[15:00] <highrise2357> no drivers are listed
[15:01] <highrise2357> even though nvidia-current is installed
[15:02] <DJ_Unibob> Neither of those commands did anything.
[15:02] <highrise2357> okay, just realized that jockey-text isn't a command
[15:03] <highrise2357> which jockey-text returns nothing
[15:03] <highrise2357> strage though, not getting any error when I run it
[15:03] <stork91> Looking for where i need to go still...
[15:03] <stefg> highrise2357: There are several log files in /var/log which could give you information (dmesg, Xorg.0.log, syslog)
[15:03] <ph88> im trying to install ubuntu gnome on my laptop but it doesn't allow me to format the partition of fedora and use that for ubuntu
[15:04] <highrise2357> stefg: alright, I'll take a look
[15:05] <Konata_> Anyone know why I'd be getting the "W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy-security_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch" error when running apt-get update?
[15:05] <stork91> Still looking for proper help/info on how to properly edit colors/themes
[15:05] <Dureiken> Hi there, I juste would like to launch a .sh file with alias (bashrc)  but I don't achieve to do this, could someone help me ? Thanks a lot
[15:06] <highrise2357> stefg: is it a problem that there is no Xorg.0.log?
[15:06] <stefg> highrise2357: that probably means that there either is x-server installed, or it doesnt get started
[15:06] <wkharold> Upgrade to 14.04 was flawless, well done! Noticed that the docker.io package is back level, version 0.9.1 latest is 0.10.x, any planes to update the repo soon?
[15:07] <stefg> highrise2357: try 'sudo service lightdm restart' (assuming ubuntu, not kubuntu)
[15:07] <stork91> I would really hate to start copypasting my request for info...
[15:07] <Guest49044> Can I do a dual boot between Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit and Ubuntu Studio 14.04 64 bit?  If so, can anyone tell me how?  I imagine that I'll have the choice during installation of Ubuntu Studio to dual boot with Ubuntu.
[15:07] <Guest49044> But I'm a newbie
[15:08] <highrise2357> stefg: stop: unknown instance start: failed start
[15:08] <brothersome> Guest49044, Grub is the answer
[15:08] <stefg> highrise2357: ... so there seems no x installed...
[15:08] <highrise2357> stefg: I did dpkg -s xorg and it said install ok installed
[15:09] <highrise2357> stefg: is it another package that I need to install?
[15:10] <stefg> highrise2357:  tons of them... you need lightdm, fonts, probably some other stuff. most of it gets drawn as dependency.
[15:10] <stork91> Still looking for proper help/info on how to properly edit colors/themes
[15:10] <elblancel> hol
[15:10] <elblancel> a:D
[15:10] <tado> hey folks. just fresh installed and need to share some folders between me and another user of this same system. right click on folder in nautilus doesn't show all groups, but only a few. how can i give read permissions to the other user?
[15:10] <Guest49044> brothersome: I imagine that I should understand what that sentence says, but ... I mean, I will boot from the Ubuntu Studio DVD I made from the ISO and install U . Studio with the choice of how to install it ... on a seperate partition and all that
[15:11] <highrise2357> stefg: is there a way to get dependencies other than apt-get install -f? that command seems to think everything's fine
[15:11] <Guest49044> brothersome: Do I understand it correctly?
[15:11] <stefg> highrise2357: i didn't get your original question. Are you trying to custom-install starting with a gui-less server
[15:11] <highrise2357> stefg: no, I'm running 14.04 on a home computer
[15:12] <highrise2357> stefg: I had the gui, now it's gone
[15:12] <stork91> tado, could you be a lil more specific?
[15:12] <stefg> highrise2357: and what happened in the meantime? :-)
[15:13] <ki7rw> anyone know why only one of my pc's alerted me to the release of 14.04 and prompted me to upgrade to it? also, i tried apt-get dist-upgrade on another pc and nothing happened
[15:13] <yellabs-r2> hello there
[15:13] <tado> stork91: just want to give one of my roomies access to video and music folders. i've done this before, but can't find out how to do it anymore :S
[15:13] <Guest49044> ki7rw: Try "update-manager -d"
[15:14] <stork91> tado, is his computer also Ubuntu?
[15:14] <stork91> Still looking for proper help/info on how to properly edit colors/themes
[15:14] <qzio> what is the trick to get initramfs to be able to mapp my luks disk, using lvm
[15:14] <tado> stork91: two users on the same machine
[15:14] <belgianguy> why do system bar icons that are in color switch to a gray outline when the Dash is open?
[15:14] <belgianguy> (eg Spotify and SpiderOak)
[15:14] <yellabs-r2> i like to find a way to hide "switch user" in unity menu , i know its somehow set with , gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.session , and then a command, any tips aer more then welcome
[15:14] <stefg> highrise2357: if this is a fresh desktop install and not much work was already put in customisation i'd simply  start over. an installer run is done in 15-20 mins on a half-recent box... troubleshooting van take hours
[15:15] <highrise2357> stefg: two things:
[15:15] <yellabs-r2> its the top right corner dialog menu ..
[15:15] <_ramok> hi
[15:15] <kang_> hi
[15:15] <highrise2357> stefg: I may have accidentally deleted something by purging removed packages
[15:16] <_ramok> how can i find out which chrome version i'm running? i have a headless server here
[15:16] <highrise2357> stefg: if better to fresh install, how
[15:16] <stork91> tado, should just be under right click and permissions tab. What is not there?
[15:16] <stork91> Still looking for proper help/info on how to properly edit colors/themes
[15:16] <stefg> highrise2357: so you broke your toy... excellent, you learned something. But better return to a 'known good' state by reinstalling
[15:17] <kang_> how can I find program in xubuntu like dash-board in ubuntu?
[15:18] <stefg> highrise2357: you can still try to 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'... that's a metapackage which will pull in everything as dependency
[15:18] <tado> stork91: groups listed are: adm, cdrom, dip, lpadmin, plugdev, sambashare, sudo, tado. shouldn't i see the other user's name listed as a group?
[15:18] <belgianguy> is there a way for Ubuntu Dash to look for uninstalled apps?
[15:18] <stork91> tado, http://askubuntu.com/questions/66718/how-to-manage-users-and-groups
[15:18] <stork91> add him to your user group
[15:18] <stork91> then set that as the share
[15:18] <belgianguy> I was searching if I still had 0ad installed, but instead of suggesting it as a potential download, I only got to open xpad :/
[15:19] <highrise2357> stefg: that didn't work--so how do I reinstall?
[15:19] <highrise2357> stefg: live boot to cd?
[15:20] <kerry> cherry tree is a good tree app
[15:20] <stefg> highrise2357: you'll need a usb drive... although the images are ISOs they are to large for CDs now
[15:20] <stefg> !install
[15:20] <tado> stork91: i've looked at that. the other user is called mie, and when i look at "Main group" from users and groups it says "Mie". can i just assign a new group to this user, choosing among those that are listed in nautilus?
[15:20] <gianmarco> guys when i connect my 32" tv with HDMI the resolution is lower and the borders are cut is there a way to fix this?
[15:20] <highrise2357> stefg: this is system image? So I should backup data right?
[15:20] <stork91> tado, sounds right
[15:21] <stefg> highrise2357: yup... backups are never a bad idea.
[15:21] <stork91> tado, you should be able to just add her to the tado group
[15:21] <stork91> tado, since your username and group are =
[15:21] <gianmarco> guys when i connect my 32" tv with HDMI the resolution is lower and the borders are cut is there a way to fix this?
[15:21] <tado> stork91: but this would give her all the same rights, wouldn't it?
[15:21] <highrise2357> stefg: so I should be able to get this off of the website? Do I just download the standard thing or go somewhere else?
[15:21] <tado> stork91: i want to grant access only to selected folders
[15:22] <stork91> no. Just what is shared afaik. You could just test it.
[15:22] <_ramok> is there a way to install an older version of chrome to my ubuntu server? currently i have version 32 running. i would like to have version 31
[15:22] <stork91> tado, no. Just what is shared afaik. You could just test it.
[15:22] <tado> stork91: so i add her to begin with, and then i add through nautilus?
[15:22] <stefg> highrise2357: website.... choose 64-bit desktop installer if you know reason for something else
[15:22] <tado> stork91: folder by folder
[15:22] <highrise2357> stefg: also, I may have uninstalled the problematic package pretty recently, so if there's a way to view a log of uninstallations I might be able to fix the issue
[15:23] <stork91> tado, aye, should be right. You set the share in that folder
[15:23] <highrise2357> stefg: otherwise I'll reinstall and thanks for your help
[15:23] <gothaggis> I just upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 and now I can't login to my machine using my windows domain account.  any ideas?  i used samba/kerberos to join it to the domain before...i notice that after i restart the computer and log in with the local account, there is no kerberos ticket.  So I kinit to get one, then log out and try to login with my windows domain account, and it still won't let me.  worked fine in 12.04.
[15:23] <tado> stork91: ok, let me check :)
[15:23] <stork91> tado, you should also be able to handle this in Samba iirc
[15:23] <stork91> Still looking for proper help/info on how to properly edit colors/themes
[15:23] <tado> stork91: what is samba irc?
[15:24] <stefg> highrise2357: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso is the latest daily build
[15:24] <stork91> tado, if I recall correctly, Samba (a program for sharing with windows machines on the network) also works for this
[15:24] <tado> stork91: ok thanks. i'll test adding her to the group first
[15:26] <stefg> highrise2357: i suspect that you have a lot of questionable package sources enabled, and you might have dependency conflicts. How about a nice and tidy fresh install of the latestet LTS release?
[15:27] <asarch> I am following this documento in order to dispatch pydev -p 8080 service, however, no matter where I put the *nat line, I simply get a syntax error at ufw start command: http://thorsen.pm/perl/2014/03/09/mojolicious-on-digitalocean.html#step_4_listen_to_port_80_instead_of_8080
[15:28] <asarch> "Bad argument `*nat'.Error occurred at line: 19"
[15:29] <asarch> What's wrong with that line?
[15:29] <stork91> tado, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1406506
[15:30] <Konata_> Anyone know why I'd be getting the "W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy-security_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch" error when running apt-get update?
[15:30] <stork91> Tado, azertyh's post, the first few lines are right on what you need to add a group and users to said group.
[15:30] <Ascavasaion> I have an Avi file, but each time I try to move it off my laptop onto my external HDD I get an error.  How does one check file integrity?  Or any other ideas?
[15:31] <highrise2357> stefg: alright, I'll give reinstallation a shot, and thanks again for your help
[15:32] <stefg> gothaggis: you are aware that the LTS-to-LTS upgrade path is officially to the .1 release? So 12.04.4 users are not prompted for upgrade until 14.04.1 arrives in july... The devs will be happy to revćeive your bug-report
[15:33] <tbw> Anyone know if 12.04.4's openssl is good to go as long as it's been compiled on 04.07 ?
[15:33] <Zooklubba> Right. do-release-update returns command not found. I've googled like crazy but havent founda nything
[15:33] <tbw> It's not reporting 1.0.1e or anything
[15:34] <stefg> !heartbleed | tbw
[15:34] <genii> Zooklubba: Try with do-release-upgrade instead of do-release-update
[15:34] <silv3r_m00n> i upgraded from ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04 and now installing flashplugin-nonfree does not play flash in browsers
[15:34] <silv3r_m00n> how to fix this ?
[15:35] <stefg> silv3r_m00n: backup your browser-profile and try if it works with a fresh one
[15:35] <stork91> Still looking for proper help/info on how to properly edit colors/themes
[15:36] <stork91> Still looking for proper help/info on how to properly edit colors/themes in 14.04
[15:36] <ki7rw> is 14.04 lts a stable release?
[15:37] <bekks> ki7rw: Yes.
[15:37] <stork91> sure
[15:37] <[twisti]> whats the difference between .04 and .10 ?
[15:37] <ki7rw> ok. when i run the upgrade it says it's a development release
[15:37] <stefg> stork91: ... very sad story.... the gnomes keep on breaking gtk with every new release, so most of the info out there might be outdated
[15:37] <stork91> Still looking for proper help/info on how to properly edit colors/themes in 14.04
[15:37] <bekks> twisted`: .04 was released in April, .10 will be released in October.
[15:38] <bekks> [twisti]: ^
[15:38] <stefg> stork91: blame the gnome interface nazis that it's currently close to impossible
[15:38] <[twisti]> ah, and theres always releases in april and october ? or how come so many versions have a .04 and .10 ?
[15:39] <darkelfjuggalo> I just completed the latest dist-upgrade and since the restart I get to the log ib screen and it fails ti start session
[15:39] <stork91> stefg, Sad story, I was in here about 6 months ago and I was assured by several people that stability was coming in this release.
[15:39] <Luyin> switching the keyboard language doesn't work properly in Ubuntu 14.04 (unity). "same setting for all windows" is set, but even switching between hexchat tabs seems to alter the behaviour: the indicator shows "en" but the setting is German actually. is that a known bug?
[15:40] <stork91> stefg, also sad, this is dealing with the desktop icon selection color, which seems to have been broken in update. Could you point me in the general direction of who I can yell at about ubuntu's lack of customization. Or at least who I can ask about the gnomes proper settings?
[15:41] <stefg> stork91: http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/ outdated, but still true
[15:41] <stork91> Luyin, confirmed, I just checked my keyboard and it is bonkers as well
[15:41] <sakang> stork91: maybe demand a refund
[15:42] <thomson21> meh, i give up, libnpjp2.so is in /usr/lib/firefox/browser/plugins/ but the java plugin is still not showing up in firefox :-|
[15:42] <Ascavasaion> I have an Avi file, but each time I try to move it off my laptop onto my external HDD I get an error.  How does one check file integrity?  Or any other ideas?
[15:42] <stork91> sakang, go look at the onboard keyboard for touchscreen. Whoever designed that knows just what they are doing in terms of design.
[15:42] <ki7rw> if 14.04 works fine on my clients i'll upgrade my server box
[15:42] <darkelfjuggalo> urgh my connection reset did anyone respond to the log in issue if the latest dist-upgrade
[15:43] <stefg> stork91: it took me three days to get a halfway decent looking desktop. The Crunchy-themes seem to work with 14.04, except nautilus, which i immediatly nuked for nemo... Grrr, i hate these gnome-guy constantly breaking my desktop and removing features
[15:43] <Iriez> Is there a google authenticator application for ubuntu? Im talking about the app that connects to google and gives you the code based on your secret. Not the implementation of F2A within ubuntu
[15:43] <decci> Do we have a solution whereby the ubuntu machine is backed up onto a cloud machine that I can then access as a remote desktop?
[15:43] <stork91> sakang, whoever is in charge of Ubuntu's settings and customization needs to be sacked, by a donkey's preferably.
[15:44] <Ascavasaion> Error splicing file: Input/output error
[15:44] <Luyin> stork91: ok, I'm gonna check if a report exists and otherwise file a bug. thanks for your support
[15:44] <stork91> stefg,  understandable, but something so built into the OS should be more relatively easy to change.
[15:44] <stefg> stork91: At the time being ubuntu is still dependent on gtk3, which is the responsibility of the gnome-idiots... this is going to change for qt in the future, but no there yet
[15:45] <ki7rw> Ascavasaion: i'd like to know why some file names get on the other box during a file transfer but they end up being 0 byte files
[15:45] <stork91> stefg, I was told the same line 6 months ago, and 6mo before that.
[15:45] <stefg> stork91: And im confident that the modders will put out stuff for 14.04. Just give them time
[15:45] <Ascavasaion> ki7rw: We have so much we would like to know :)
[15:45] <ki7rw> hehe
[15:45] <stork91> stefg, I would like to get started on that, but documentation is lacking.
[15:47] <tado> stork91: thanks. i ended up giving read access to the home folder and to the selected folders, and fully denying access to the other folders. this should work i guess
[15:47] <stefg> http://worldofgnome.org/making-gtk3-themes-part-1-basics/ would be a start. But watch out, maybe outdated. GTK3 is a fast moving target
[15:48] <stork91> tado, was that the aim?
[15:48] <stork91> tado, if so, congrats!
[15:48] <Zooklubba> Not found genii
[15:48] <tado> stork91: yes :)
[15:48] <Zooklubba> update upgrade. tomato paotato. not found
[15:48] <stork91> tado, yw
[15:48] <tado> stork91: thanks for helping out
[15:48] <genii> Zooklubba: What version of Ubuntu are you currently using?
[15:48] <bekks> Zooklubba: So you are using Debian?
[15:49] <stork91> Man, this is turning into a weird day... I was a source on a Linux article, I have helped in a chat channel, and I am actively seeking to mod themes. I have only been on Ubuntu for about 15 months. WTH?!?!
[15:49] <genii> bekks: Ah, "potato", nice catch
[15:50] <stork91> genii, boilem mashem stickem in a stew
[15:50] <stefg> stork91: that's what 'open' in open source implies...
[15:50] <genii> Zooklubba: If you're running an earlier Ubuntu, may need package ubuntu-release-upgrader-core to get that command available
[15:52] <stork91> stefg, aye, but to be involved at the level so fast was not expected
[15:52] <Zooklubba> I was pretty sure I ran 12.04 lts. not really sure
[15:52] <bekks> Zooklubba: Whats the output of "cat /etc/issue"?
[15:53] <stork91> I have also been looking over kubuntu, which seems to not have these issues.
[15:53] <stefg> Zooklubba: lsb-release -r will tell you
[15:53]  * stork91 doesn't like to resort to that.
[15:54] <Ascavasaion> Iguess nobody here knows how to check files, etc. Nighty night night.
[15:54] <stefg> Zooklubba: lsb_release -r  (underscore) taht is
[15:54] <darkelfjuggalo> I am on my login screen on my ubuntu laptop; when I type In my password or click guest session *failed to start session* comes up
[15:54] <Guest48649> hi all, I should like to be able to install applications for only some users. Is that possible ?
[15:54] <Konata_> Anyone know why I'd be getting the "W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy-security_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch" error when running apt-get update?
[15:55] <Zooklubba> Release:7.4
[15:55] <bekks> Zooklubba: Then please ask the debian support.
[15:55] <Zooklubba> cat issue Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l
[15:55] <Zooklubba> ah
[15:55] <Zooklubba> Ok.
[15:55] <stefg> darkelfjuggalo: seems there is trouble writing to the respective /home directory. is you file-system mounted read/write? Separate home-partition?
[15:55] <Zooklubba> sowwy.
[15:55] <Zooklubba> Thanks bekks and stefg. lol
[15:56]  * genii slides bekks a fresh beverage of their choice
[15:56] <bekks> genii: Thanks :D
[15:56] <LMJ> hello the chan
[15:57] <Guest48649> or actually a better description is that I want to be able to reset my machine to exactly how it was set up now then I have a fresh install, how can I do that ?
[15:57] <Luyin> !bug
[15:58] <Bluewolf> When installing a dual boot between Ubuntu and Windows 7, does windows drive need to be on sata drive 0 and Ubuntu on sata drive 1 and the boot loader installed on the windows drive. Or could Ubuntu be installed on Sata drive 0?
[15:58] <darkelfjuggalo> idk I just did a dist upgrade
[15:58] <abckb__> which plugin to install to enable voice chat in pidgin?(for xmpp)
[15:58] <stefg> Bluewolf: you can have both partitions on one drive.
[15:58] <SchrodingersScat> Bluewolf: windows and ubuntu can be on the same drive, yes.
[15:59] <Yu-Yu> abckb__: Ain't it enabled out of the box?
[15:59] <LMJ> I've messed up with LVM and software RAID5. I've rebuilt the RAID5 and restore LVM vg settings. I can see now my logical volume, but I've corrupted my EXT4 fs : once mounted, the partition is empty but "df" show used at 93% (previous value before the crash). since the ext4 partition is on top of LVM, I create a LV R/W snapshot and run a fsck on it : 30% of my data disappeared and all the remaining files are in lost+found/ named like this #xxxxx. A
[15:59] <LMJ> ny ideas to help me recover data ?
[16:00] <abckb__> Yu-Yu: I can't see any "audio call" option in right click menu
[16:00] <stefg> Bluewolf: But be aware that the windows boot-manager gets repalced by grub. So if you simply wipe your linux partition you won't be able to boot windows anymore without doing a windows bootsector restore
[16:00] <Yu-Yu> Bluewolf: You can even use them both on the same partition. If using WUBI.
[16:01] <Yu-Yu> abckb__: This can happen if your buddies don't support V/V.
[16:01] <darkelfjuggalo> stefg how do I check the partition?
[16:01] <Bluewolf> Schnabeltierchen: stefg: Yeah I know they can be on the same drive but I want them on separate drives as I have two, so that being said can I set Ubuntu as the primary drive and Windows as the secondary or does Windows have to be the Primary as in the past?
[16:02] <Yu-Yu> Bluewolf: Try defining which boot loader to use and move on.
[16:03] <abckb__> Yu-Yu: yeah, but I am able to voice-call them from a different laptop running Archlinux.
[16:03] <Bluewolf> Yu-Yu: Grub?
[16:04] <penth> Does anyone else have a blue 'a' on their menu button in chromium after upgrading to 14.04? Seems to be https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/9peJTNsc2iw but there doesn't really appear to be ash support. Just a graphics oops?
[16:05] <Pricey> penth: heh, so i'm not the only one.
[16:06] <trism> penth: they switched on aura, which isn't quite ready yet, one sec I'll find the bug
[16:06] <verodeb> hi
[16:06] <Yu-Yu> abckb__: Actually, no idea.
[16:07] <stefg> darkelfjuggalo: you could check the output of 'dmesg' for errors, or simply give 'mount' on a conole to see if everything is mounted r/w
[16:08] <Yu-Yu> Bluewolf: If using grub, you only need to point your BIOS to the device having that grub installed.
[16:08] <stefg> Bluewolf: UEFI and GPT changed things a bit.... there is no 'primary' any more (thank god the DOS days are now overr for good)
[16:08] <trism> penth: bug 1308310
[16:09] <Yu-Yu> Can anyone explain why after upgrading from saucy tp trusty in Ubuntu breaks touchpad?
[16:10] <Bluewolf> Yu-Yu: Yeah I know there is no Primary and Slave, I meant Sata Port 0 and 1. In the past there was a complication with Windows being the on the second Port and was only resolved by placing it on the first while Linux remained on the second one.
[16:10] <darkelfjuggalo> I keep disconnecting
[16:10] <Pici> Yu-Yu: re: touchpad issue: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes#Kernel for a brief explanation and workaround.
[16:11] <verodeb> if i add a line to the sshd_config --> AllowUsers someuser@90.120.87.4, does this guarantees "someuser" to access ONLY BY 90.120.87.4 and NOT from another ip??
[16:11] <stefg> Bluewolf: you still need you 100MB fat32 UEFI partition somewhere...
[16:11] <penth> Thanks, Trism.  I see the icon change here too: www.omgchrome.com/google-chrome-for-linux-adds-aura-developer-channel/
[16:11] <stefg> Bluewolf: ... on SATA 0
[16:13] <orbisvicis> how do I list broken packages from the terminal ?
[16:13] <stefg> !apt
[16:14] <Bluewolf> stefg: I see, So which do install in order - Windows or ubuntu?
[16:14] <bekks> !dualboot | Bluewolf
[16:14] <stefg> Bluewolf: windows first...
[16:15] <orbisvicis> stefg: thanks
[16:15] <Chorca> I just tried upgrading my Kismet installation from apt-get from the normal repo.. it errored out and completely hosed my /etc/groups and /etc/passwd files, they're now empty. Anything I can do?
[16:15] <stefg> Bluewolf: And when installing ubuntu make sure to point the installer to put ubuntu's grub to */dev/sdb*. This way you can choose which OS to boot by your bios's Boot selector (usually F12)
[16:15] <exad> Hello
[16:15] <bekks> Chorca: Restore your backups of those files.
[16:16] <Chorca> booseye. /var/backup files are also 0 bytes
[16:16] <bekks> Chorca: Then restore your backups.
[16:16] <Chorca> WELL, careful, anyone updating  Kismet.
[16:16] <tirdtoon> joined #yii
[16:16] <Bluewolf> stefg: Bekks: Yu-Yu: SchrodingersScat: Thanks Guys :D
[16:20] <samabanbu> ciao
[16:21] <shadytv> Hi i'm having several issues related to wpa_supplicant, on the last few releases of ubuntu it would randomly crash and i couldn't connect to to or see any wireless networks, so i could only have a wired network until the program was updated now when i try to resume from suspend apportcheckresume crashes and when I look at the bug report it says that wpa_supplicant is failing to come back up. any help on this issue would be great...
[16:22] <JokeArt> Is ubuntu 10.04 ready?
[16:22] <jhutchins> OerHeks: Not sure what you thought you were responding to, reserved space on an ext filesystem doesn't care where the volume is mounted.
[16:23] <bekks> jhutchins: 10.04 is still ready, yes.
[16:23] <ldiamond> Can I easily switch between Gnome, LXDE and XFCE? I.e. if I install ubuntu 14.04, do I just need to install the LXDE and XFCE packages to be able to use those desktop environments? Does anyone have experience with such a setup? Is it stable and does it work well (no conflicts and such)?
[16:23] <stork91> stefg, that long blog post made me mad and sad...
[16:23] <aligator> does anyone know a way to make linux run a bash script on start up, that could for example do "macchanger wlan0 -r"? thanks
[16:23] <stork91> stefg, I almost want to go back to windows...
[16:24] <jhutchins> In my case, since the space was the 5% default, and since the volume was reporting 95% full, I believe it had hit the reservation.  (It was an Oracle log volume.)
[16:24] <StrangeNoises> aligator: /etc/rc.local
[16:24] <[twisti]> what post, stork91 ?
[16:24] <JokeArt> I mean 14.04
[16:24] <aligator> StrangeNoises: thank you
[16:24] <jhutchins> aligator: You can call it from rc.local or put it in cron with onboot.
[16:24] <JokeArt> Is it ready to download?
[16:25] <stork91> [twisti], http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/
[16:25] <Korkel> Hi.
[16:25] <StrangeNoises> aligator: though don't know if that runs before the thing you need - ie: before wifi connection.
[16:25] <bekks> !trusty | JokeArt
[16:25] <[twisti]> thanks
[16:25] <StrangeNoises> probably can't be guaranteed
[16:25] <jhutchins> JokeArt: At most mirrors, yes.  Torrents are probably faster right now.
[16:25] <stefg> stork91: ... yeah .... I'm glad that i finally found a bearable combination.  Crunchy grey theme, faenza icons, and most importantly get rid of that crippled wreck that nautilus is these days. ubuntu should have taken Mint's nemo as file-browser
[16:26] <Korkel> My Function keys (FN) and Printscreen key aren't working. Using Ubuntu 14.04
[16:26] <JokeArt> Thank you
[16:26] <Korkel> Google isn't giving me a fix.
[16:26] <mndar> when will the Ubuntu 14.04 alternate ISO be released? or is it already available ?
[16:27] <stork91> stefg, Ubuntu is part of the problem it seems. That touch keyboard is amazing. And how well has the team integrated those looks into the OS? Not well...
[16:27] <pancakes9> how often should you update your packages and security updates?
[16:27] <pancakes9> everytime you see there are new updates?
[16:27] <Aaruni> I get updates for fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic  in trusty. safe to install ?
[16:27] <StrangeNoises> pancakes9: yeah, or once a week if you need a potential-downtime schedule
[16:28] <pancakes9> some production systems are more strict though
[16:28] <StrangeNoises> but be ready to run instantly in the case of 0day stuff like heartbleed
[16:28] <pancakes9> or how do you know there's no conflict?
[16:29] <stefg> stork91: Canonical does not have endless manpower.... and on top they tend to fragment their small workforce and  task them with stupid ideas (... mir...)
[16:29] <StrangeNoises> normal updates within a distro release won't break compatibility; any patches for vulnerabilities backported for instance
[16:29] <shadytv> ldiamond: Yes you only need to install the packages the package manager does the set up. In LightDM (the login manager) you'll notice a logo next to your user name you can click on that to choose the desktop environment you want to log in with. I would say it's pretty straight forward.
[16:29] <StrangeNoises> so generally you can just run normal updates pretty safely
[16:29] <stork91> stefg, they need to take the man/woman responsible for that sleek look and put them in charge of themes. Today.
[16:31] <MadLamb_mobile> I rebooted my ubuntu today and now it freezes before the user selection screen. I get a black screen. Can some1 help me?
[16:31] <Yu-Yu> Pici: Thanks, trying to read this.
[16:31] <stefg> stork91: my impression is that the personal taste of SABDFL is still playing a key role.... after all he's paying for the show, so he can choose the music...
[16:31] <decci> Do we have a solution whereby the ubuntu machine is backed up onto a cloud machine that I can then access as a remote desktop?
[16:32] <jhuyett> Hello all. New install of 14.04 using nvidia proprietary drivers. Previous install of 13.04 I was able to use 1280x1024 display. This time highest is showing as 1024x768 in nvidia-settings and xrandr -q .... way to add a resolution?
[16:32] <jhuyett> (same issue with stock drivers. changed to nvidia thinking it would see the larger resolution as a possibility. didn't)
[16:33] <stefg> decci: Dozens... but nothing turn-key ready for people without server knowledge... :-)
[16:33] <Aaruni> repost1 : I get updates for fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic  in trusty. safe to install ?
[16:33] <decci> stefg: I have prior experience on vmware vsphere 4.1 and Linux administrator
[16:34] <johndropper> By 14.04 install of Ubuntu seems to be running my laptop hot
[16:34] <decci> Stefg: Will that help
[16:34] <johndropper> any suggestions
[16:34] <StrangeNoises> jhuyett: hm. sounds familiar; i'd plugged in my 1280x1024 monitor to a nvidia-trusty machine about a week ago to take a picture of it working before selling (the monitor). it too came up on too-small a resolution at first
[16:34] <Xethron> Just upgraded to Ubuntu 14.04! Looks good :)
[16:34] <StrangeNoises> i fixed it... but annoyingly for you i'm having trouble remembering what i had to do
[16:34] <Aaruni> johndropper, gfx drivers ?
[16:34] <StrangeNoises> as i no longer have that monitor, can't reproduce
[16:34] <decci> stefg: can you throw some example
[16:35] <jhuyett> Been years since I manually did anything with xorg.conf. Hoping there is an easier way.
[16:35] <AnthonyUK> Hi everyone, how do I reverse a ppa update to apt-get, I want to revert from mythtv 0.27 to 0.25
[16:35] <StrangeNoises> jhuyett: well, it wasn't that i did, i'm fairly sure
[16:35] <AnthonyUK> i have tried ppa purge
[16:35] <stefg> decci: sure... so you'd need an amazon s3 account, and some money first, then set up a storage server on amazons cloud (... expensive!...).
[16:36] <zakora> How can I make the menu bar to be always visible for every window? I thought it was gonna be the default in 14.04
[16:36] <sizzle> so, where is gvfs?
[16:37] <StrangeNoises> zakora: bwahaha! <sob/> no, they hates us that want always-visible menus!
[16:37] <stefg> decci: i#m investigating offsite-backup now for quite a while, but (managed cloud-) storage in the TB scale is still prohibitively expensive. I'll get a root server at a nice reasonable hoster and care for myself....
[16:37] <StrangeNoises> whether on-titlebar or on-panel, still only mouse-over
[16:37] <StrangeNoises> (in fact makes more sense on-titlebar, as lets you drag window)
[16:37] <zakora> StrangeNoises: that is so annoying :-/
[16:37] <sizzle> anyone else still have timeout issues with nautlius ftp?
[16:38] <SuperBawlz> Can any of you very helpful individuals point me in the right direction to clone a drive from a source of 250GB to a destination of 240GB?
[16:38] <stefg> sizzle: i can't remember a time that nautilus-ftp was ever working correctly....
[16:38] <StrangeNoises> jhuyett: i don't think i did anything more special than just click detect monitors and/or reboot after the monitor was plugged in (not that that *ought* to be necessary but maybe is with vga connection?)
[16:38] <SuperBawlz> the 250 only has about 80GB worth of data.
[16:39] <SuperBawlz> upgrading to an SSD
[16:39] <jhuyett> StrangeNoises: Didn't want to confuse things but .... dual monitor. a 1920x1080 and a 1280x1024. Again it did work the last time.
[16:40] <StrangeNoises> nothing special in my bash history for self or root, so i don't think i did anything at the commandline to fix it. must have all been in gui
[16:40] <GTR> Hello I have sound problems with my 14.04 and the samo with my previous 12.04     the problem is that the microphone stream is directly sent to the speakers  and not as normal as microphone  I tried changing settings installing drivers but nothing helped so far   my laptop is acer aspire 5732z the microphone is external the speakers too
[16:40] <StrangeNoises> jhuyett: basic questions, 1: what version nvidia drivers now? and 2: what's in nvidia-settings?
[16:41] <decci> Backup the machine to the cloud (with a vps provider such as digitalocean) such that if need be I can access the computer from anywhere in the world as a remote desktop.
[16:41] <StrangeNoises> jhuyett: as probably best to set up twinview in there anyway
[16:41] <sizzle> stefg, any alternatives to mount locally for editing aside from nautilus?
[16:41] <stefg> decci: interesting idea...
[16:41] <stefg> sizzle: mc? ....
[16:42] <decci> stefg: what u suggest
[16:42] <alicon> hi
[16:42] <reisio> sizzle: editing... what?
[16:42] <reisio> alicon: hi
[16:42] <jhuyett> StrangeNoises: version 331.38.  Both screens show. large screen is as ut should be.
[16:42] <sizzle> mount locally and edit the file. I do a lot of PHP HTML /CSS stuff
[16:42] <shadytv>  Hi i'm having several issues related to wpa_supplicant, on the last few releases of ubuntu it would randomly crash and i couldn't connect to to or see any wireless networks, so i could only have a wired network until the program was updated now when i try to resume from suspend apportcheckresume crashes and when I look at the bug report it says that wpa_supplicant is failing to come back up. any help on this issue would be great...
[16:43] <sizzle> does that make sense stefg ?
[16:43] <ldiamond> shadytv, And have you tried it? Does it work well? (using multiple desktop env)
[16:43] <StrangeNoises> jhuyett: yeah but can you set resolution of problem screen in nvidia-settings (as opposed to normal display prefs)?
[16:44] <jhuyett> No. had tried both.
[16:44] <MadLamb_mobile> Please my ubuntu is freezing in xserver. Heeelp
[16:44] <reisio> sizzle: should probably auto mount, use whichever editor you please
[16:44] <stefg> sizzle: the problem seems not to be nautilus, but gnome-vfs. ... I#d look into curlftp or the like to pseudo-mount the remote dir and bypass gvfs
[16:44] <andyfied> SuperBawlz: if the 250GB drive is okay, then shrink it with gparted to ~100gb, then clone it with maybe dd or clonezilla, then expand it back up to 240gb
[16:44] <reisio> MadLamb_mobile: can you CTRL+ALT+F2? (+F7 to go back)
[16:44] <shadytv> ldiamond: yes it works great but with each DE comes it's programs so either uninstall the ones you dont use or things will get bloated.
[16:44] <Yelu> !gparted | SuperBawlz
[16:44] <Pici> /36/36
[16:45] <jhuyett> StrangeNoises: I have an idea. May loose X doing this .....
[16:45] <MadLamb_mobile> Reisio. No, but i edited my brub and im on terminal mode now
[16:45] <SuperBawlz> Is that safe with a Windows drive?
[16:45] <MadLamb_mobile> Grub
[16:45] <MadLamb_mobile> reisio, ?
[16:46] <reisio> MadLamb_mobile: oh okay
[16:46] <Yelu> SuperBawlz, I don't know Windows. - This is Ubuntu Support here?
[16:46] <stefg> sizzle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=441126
[16:46] <reisio> MadLamb_mobile: so if you run sudo service lightdm start, it freezes?
[16:46] <andyfied> SuperBawlz: i'm going to say no, cos last time i used gparted on a windows drive it broke the partition
[16:47] <SuperBawlz> Yeah. I'm doing this on Ubuntu. I run Ubuntu and love it! My boss is a douche and runs Windows.
[16:47] <andyfied> SuperBawlz: use a windows thing to resize, then you can clone with dd/clonezilla
[16:47] <MadLamb_mobile> No, it started in low graphics mode
[16:47] <MadLamb_mobile> rezio,
[16:47] <MadLamb_mobile> reisio, srry
[16:47] <Aaruni> overheat issues in trusty
[16:47] <Aaruni> 75C at idle
[16:48] <stefg> Aaruni: optimus laptop?
[16:48] <Aaruni> stefg, radeon
[16:48] <MadLamb_mobile> reisio, im on a screen asking if i want to reconfigure graphics, start in low graphics, troubleshoot, console
[16:51] <reisio> MadLamb_mobile: okay, so it freezes in non-low graphics mode?
[16:51] <MadLamb_mobile> reisio, i tried to reconfigure to defaults, and them startx, but it still freezer
[16:51] <MadLamb_mobile> Ill try it
[16:52] <jhuyett> StrangeNoises: took a chance and added "metamodes" "DVI-I-1: nvidia-auto-select +1920+0 {viewportin=1280x1024, viewportout=1280x1024+0+0}, DVI-I-2: nvidia-auto-select +0+0" to xorg. .... no luck.
[16:52] <jhuyett> not a huge deal at this point. not going back just because of this.
[16:53] <reisio> MadLamb_mobile: okay, what graphics device?
[16:53] <MadLamb_mobile> reisio, i guess yes. Now i see a blinking underline near top, but nothing else
[16:53] <MadLamb_mobile> Im on ati radeon 5770
[16:54] <MadLamb_mobile> It was working until i rebooted it
[16:54] <reisio> okay
[16:54] <reisio> that probably has a few different graphics drivers you can use
[16:54] <MadLamb_mobile> I had a aptget update yesterday. It might be it
[16:54] <reisio> likely including fglrx, and radeon
[16:54] <reisio> and something even lower you're using now
[16:54] <MadLamb_mobile> I took a look at xorg loga
[16:54] <MadLamb_mobile> Logs
[16:55] <MadLamb_mobile> There is something failing there
[16:55] <MadLamb_mobile> With fglrx
[16:55] <MadLamb_mobile> But im not sure if that is related to this issue
[16:56] <lenz> I want to put 14.04 on my chromebook acer c720. How do I do it?
[16:56] <Yu-Yu> Pici: Eh, it breaks AlpsPS/2 touchpad, completely.
[16:56] <lenz> crouton didn't work for me... indexes failed to download, chroot environment didn't setup.
[16:56] <brothersome> lenz, dual boot or single
[16:57] <lenz> single, if possible brothersome
[16:57] <brothersome> lenz, disable UEFI (if you have it) and install from CD
[16:57] <MadLamb_mobile> reisio, atiddxdriscreeninit failed. Probably kernel module missing or incompatible.
[16:58] <lenz> The Chromebook doesn't have neither UEFI nor a CD tray. brothersome
[16:58] <MadLamb_mobile> reisio, dri inirialization failed. Kernel module fglrz.ko may be missing or incom...
[16:58] <reisio> MadLamb_mobile: try another version of fglrx, or try radeon instead
[16:58] <MadLamb_mobile> How?
[16:58] <reisio> lenz: how are either of those a problem...
[16:58] <reisio> they're both irrelevant to all things in 2014
[16:59] <brothersome> lenz, Create a bootable USB with the UBUNTU Iso on that, and start that with the grubdos
[16:59] <Josey> Bootable USB is the solution.
[16:59] <MadLamb_mobile> Im very noob into graphics config
[16:59] <Josey> I've done that many times.
[16:59] <reisio> chromebooks are usually really locked down, you'll probably need an explicit OS replacement guide
[16:59] <reisio> seek it out on the internet
[16:59] <MadLamb_mobile> It was working until today
[16:59] <reisio> MadLamb_mobile: what changed today?
[16:59] <MadLamb_mobile> Lol
[16:59] <MadLamb_mobile> Updated with aptget
[16:59] <MadLamb_mobile> Dont know what
[17:00] <vlad_starkov> Question: Anyone here uses CloudStack on Ubuntu? Have a couple of questions.
[17:00] <Josey> lenz, there are some good Youtubes with instructional videos on setting up bootable USBs with Ubuntu.
[17:00] <MadLamb_mobile> Should i install or remove something?
[17:00] <reisio> MadLamb_mobile: ah, well there was your mistake
[17:01] <Yu-Yu> lenz, right at ubuntu.com, there are some.
[17:01] <lenz> Josey, brothersome. I know how to make a bootable stick. I do not know how to unlock the chromebooks bios
[17:01] <reisio> Josey: a chromebook will likely need more than that
[17:01] <nascentmind> Hi. When I do sudo do-release-upgrade -d it always shows as no release found. I am upgrading from 13.01 to 14.04. I have changed the release to lts in the config file and did a apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade. What am I doing wrong?
[17:01] <lenz> thanks Yu-Yu
[17:01] <[twisti]> huh, today, a bunch of my cronjobs have started to run 4 times
[17:01] <reisio> lenz: either there's an explained hack online or there isn't
[17:01] <[twisti]> and i have changed nothing
[17:01] <MadLamb_mobile> reisio, ye probably. But what can i do now?
[17:01] <reisio> lenz: search the model number, and "ubuntu" or "linux" or "install" + "operating system"
[17:01] <reisio> MadLamb_mobile: find the install log in /var/log/ and revert something/s
[17:02] <MadLamb_mobile> reisio, what if i remove the catalyst sofware, do you know the package name?
[17:03] <reisio> MadLamb_mobile: probably from a package with 'fglrx' or 'ati' in its name, dpkg -l | egrep -i 'ati|fglrx'
[17:03] <reisio> dpkg -L packageName | grep -i catalyst
[17:03] <Josey> reisio, I think ChrUbuntu is designed specifically for Chromebooks.
[17:03] <Aaruni> MadLamb_mobile, proprietary ? its flgrs
[17:03] <ChibaPet> I'm curious about something. The advert for Ubuntu 14.04 on the main page advertises support for HiDPS displays, but when I boot my Retina MacBook Pro, it clearly doesn't notice that it's on a high-density display, as everything is really tiny. Also shows no network devices available. Does the ISO ship nonfree drivers, or do I have to do something special to get a wireless driver? And is there any easy way to set scaling options so the display's a
[17:03] <Aaruni> *fglrx
[17:03] <Jordan_U> nascentmind: Don't change the release to LTS, and don't use "-d". Also, 13.01 isn't an Ubuntu version so I assume you mean 13.10.
[17:04] <brothersome> lenz: here a link with instructions:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/278403/how-do-you-make-usb-bootable-on-chromebook
[17:04] <Yu-Yu> nascentmind: I tried apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y && aptget dselect-upgrade-y && apt-get dist-upgrade -y — all after I failed to do-release-upgrade, twice.
[17:04] <nascentmind> Jordan_U, sorry it is 13.10
[17:04] <reisio> Josey: that doesn't make it magically install itself
[17:04] <Yu-Yu> nascentmind: Yeah, it is 13.10, and you don't want to use -d.
[17:04] <Josey> How to install Ubuntu 12.04 on the $199 Acer C7 Chromebook - http://liliputing.com/2012/11/how-to-install-ubuntu-12-04-on-the-199-acer-c7-chromebook.html
[17:05] <nascentmind> Yu-Yu, should I change to LTS?
[17:05] <Yu-Yu> nascentmind: It'll take you to devel release.
[17:05] <StrangeNoises> and there isn't one right now
[17:05] <StrangeNoises> the next normal release happens to *also* be an LTS, so change it to non-LTS, and just sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:05] <Yu-Yu> nascentmind: Accidentally, it broke my touchpad. ;D So I guess you choose on your own.
[17:06] <tokern31> hey people. i installed gnome mplayer on fedora 20. i want to see movie with arabic subtitle but it show each word with separate characters . how should i fix this?
[17:06] <ChibaPet> tokern31: Start with /join #fedora
[17:06] <Josey> Looks pretty easy to me.
[17:06] <MadLamb_mobile> I guess i would be good if i revert the driver to the default one, instead of the proprietary and them download/ install the updated version. Can some1 help with dat?
[17:07] <nascentmind> Yu-Yu, no I mean should I change to "lts" in release-upgrades?
[17:08] <Yu-Yu> StrangeNoises, nascentmind: it was something broken for a while with do-release-upgrade on non-ASCII locales, and it just switched my apt sources to the next release faulting and leaving them switched. And I lived with this, simply doing everything-and-all-update. And it comes next release. Gigigi.
[17:08] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni, my xserver in failing to init with fglrx. Any hint?
[17:08] <Jordan_U> nascentmind: No.
[17:08] <Yu-Yu> nascentmind: Waat?
[17:08] <Aaruni> MadLamb_mobile, did you install via apt, or from the *.run file from amd ?
[17:08] <ChibaPet> I'm curious about something. The advert for Ubuntu 14.04 on the main page advertises support for HiDPS displays, but when I boot my Retina MacBook Pro, it clearly doesn't notice that it's on a high-density display, as everything is really tiny. Also shows no network devices available. Does the ISO ship nonfree drivers, or do I have to do something special to get a wireless driver? And is there any easy way to set scaling options so the display's a
[17:08] <nascentmind> Jordan_U, ok. I read through the comments in file and it too said no ;)
[17:09] <Yu-Yu> nascentmind: You want to keep on LTS? Use LTS. Upgrade every time? Use ANY.
[17:09] <reisio> ChibaPet: you'll probably have to at least click a couple things to get non-free software
[17:09] <viknesh> my ubuntu ran into black screen after logo . So i was trying http://askubuntu.com/questions/133844/fglrx-causes-serious-bug-black-screen . But reinstalling fglrx gave me error
[17:09] <Bluewolf> What is a suitable size for a swap partition, the max and min?
[17:09] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni, Not sure. I had been working for maybe a year, and then i rebooted it yesterday and now it freezes
[17:09] <reisio> Bluewolf: equal to ram if you want hibernation
[17:09] <bekks> Bluewolf: Depends on your RAM size and wether you want to use suspend2ram.
[17:09] <viknesh> it has unmet dependencies
[17:09] <ChibaPet> reisio: That's the thing, I have no network, so I'm wondering if I'm stuck with having to find the drivers and supply them via a second USB stick or something.
[17:09] <Aaruni> MadLamb_mobile, easiest way would be to try sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[17:10] <stork91> Is there anyway to install https://github.com/valr/awf
[17:10] <stork91> ?
[17:10] <Aaruni> '*' is included in command
[17:10] <Yu-Yu> Bluewolf: For hibernates — RAM size plus some MBs more.
[17:10] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni, didnt remove anything
[17:11] <Yu-Yu> ChibaPet: You can use the powers of offline mode in Synaptic, for instance/
[17:11] <reisio> ChibaPet: entirely possible
[17:11] <Aaruni> MadLamb_mobile, then you must've done it using the amd site.
[17:11] <reisio> stork91: yes, otherwise why would it exist
[17:11] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni, yes, maybe.
[17:11] <Aaruni> MadLamb_mobile, by any chance, you still have that *run file ?
[17:11] <stork91> reisio, how would I install that on trusty?
[17:11] <orbisvicis> how do I remove package, ignoring any broken packages
[17:12] <ChibaPet> Yu-Yu: Does the default ISO ship any non-free drivers, or am I adding packages by hand (or Synaptic or whatever) from a USB stick where I place them for the purpose?
[17:12] <Josey> Black screen after installing gflrx on Ubuntu - http://askubuntu.com/questions/411564/black-screen-after-installing-gflrx-on-ubuntu-13-10
[17:12] <Bluewolf> reisio; bekks; Yu-Yu; My RAM is 4GB and I do use hibernation, so do I set it to 4GB or double the RAM (8GB)?
[17:12] <reisio> stork91: there's a file, 'INSTALL', read it
[17:12] <ChibaPet> Yu-Yu: If this were Debian I'd not ask, but I don't know for sure that Ubuntu doesn't ship any non-free stuff, enabled by default or otherwise.
[17:12] <reisio> ChibaPet: that would work
[17:12] <reisio> ChibaPet: Ubuntu is almost entirely Debian, and also does not ship non-DFSG software
[17:13] <reisio> you have to at least willfully click something yourself
[17:13] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni, there isnt any .run in my downloads folder, however i could get it with wget
[17:13] <reisio> Bluewolf: the double the ram is an ancient arbitrary approach
[17:13] <reisio> Bluewolf: equal to is enough, I'd do 4GB
[17:13] <Jordan_U> ChibaPet: Have you checked the additional drivers tool yet?
[17:13] <ChibaPet> reisio: The other thing I'm wondering is if there are other scaling options... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro11-1/Saucy has a gettings text-scaling-factor line that seems to work for text but not for the rest of the interface. Do you know offhand if there is an equivalent to scale icons, the Unity menubar, etc?
[17:13] <Yu-Yu> ChibaPet: Erm. By default, AFAIK, there shouldn't be a thing non-free.
[17:13] <reisio> Bluewolf: theoretically you would have to store all of your RAM's information into swap, so the maximum you should need would be roughly equal to
[17:14] <reisio> Bluewolf: other than that the chances you need 4GB of swap these days is quite low
[17:14] <ChibaPet> Jordan_U: No, this is my first boot, and I'm just starting to scratch the surface. Not an Ubuntu user. I'll look up "additional drivers tool". Thanks.
[17:14] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni, inst there a way to revert it to the default one, instead of trying to re-install it?
[17:14] <reisio> ChibaPet: I'm pretty sure it's all worked out, whether it's working perfectly out of the box for you or not :D
[17:14] <Yu-Yu> Bluewolf: Actually, making it 4GB sometimes disabled hibernation for me.
[17:14] <brothersome> Bluewolf, The doubling of RAM comes from a specification from MS-Windows for it's virtual memory.
[17:14] <Aaruni> MadLamb_mobile, I was trying to check if the installer ships with an uninstall utility
[17:14] <ChibaPet> reisio: Yeah, probably. And FWIW, Unity is minimalist and pretty. I like it thus far. For what it's worth.
[17:14] <jhutchins> Bluewolf: 8G of swap would be very cumbersome.
[17:14] <Jordan_U> Yu-Yu: Not true, see GNUsense for what a pure Free distro looks like.
[17:15] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni, oh i found the .rub
[17:15] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni, .run
[17:15] <Guest4354> hi guys i have install LAMP (tasksel)  but ii cant find where php.exe is like you see in xampp any ideas please
[17:15] <Yu-Yu> Jordan_U: Okay, thanks.
[17:15] <jhutchins> Guest4354: why would it be an .exe?  This is not windows.
[17:15] <Jordan_U> Yu-Yu: You're welcome.
[17:15] <Aaruni> MadLamb_mobile, run it, and see if it presents you with an uninstall option
[17:15] <Guest4354> jhutchins what will it be then
[17:15] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni, amd catalyst 13.11 beta v9.4 linux x86x64
[17:16] <Aaruni> oh, wait, MadLamb_mobile I just remembered
[17:16] <Aaruni> MadLamb_mobile, did you reboot in a long while, after a kernel upgrade or something ?
[17:16] <Bluewolf> jhutchins: What would be the strain doubling it?
[17:17] <Yu-Yu> Guest4354: It doesn't have to rely upon extensions: any file can be set executable, be it binary or text or whatever.
[17:17] <stork91> reisio, new line unexpected
[17:17] <Bluewolf> Yu-Yu: So 4GB is quite adequate?
[17:17] <reisio> stork91: hrmm?
[17:17] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni, the pc was on for days, and then yesterday i ran a apt lget update. Then i had to reboot it and then i wasnt able to start xserver again
[17:17] <brothersome> Guest4354: Look in your Apache configuration for the fastcgi connection to php
[17:17] <Strav> He. I'm having some troubles in getting pulseaudio to recognize my usb headset. I set the log level to 3 and here is the syslog when I try to plug the headset: http://pastebin.com/YnArhuLw  (note, the headset is recognized when I boot or if I reset pulse audio but this messes with phonon and I'd rather avoid having to reset pulse each time) Any suggestion on how to fix this would be greatly appreciated :)
[17:17] <jhutchins> Guest4354: You can try "which php" to see if there is a php executable in your path, you can try dpkg -l php*, then decide which package is most likely to have the executable and do dpkg -L php5-common to see what files that installed.
[17:18] <Yu-Yu> Bluewolf: It is.
[17:18] <stork91> reisio, after going to that dir, I type the instructions in terminal, get "new line unexpected"
[17:18] <Aaruni> MadLamb_mobile, installation of fglrx from *run file always breaks after kernel updates
[17:18] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni, im not sure what was updated with that aptget update
[17:18] <jhutchins> Bluewolf: It's just an unnecessary waste of disk space.
[17:18] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni, hmmm
[17:18] <ChibaPet> Hm. Alright. I'll keep an eye on things and try again once high-res displays are handled better. I'll call this initial foray "not a waste of time".
[17:18] <jhutchins> Bluewolf: 2-4G is plenty, unless you need more than 4 for suspend.
[17:18] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni, how to fix it?
[17:18] <Aaruni> follow this : http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/23kuss/how_to_correctly_install_amd_catalyst_on_ubuntu/ from step 3, using your *run file, instead of downloading that beta
[17:19] <Guest4354> dont matter go tit
[17:19] <MadLamb_mobile> ;)
[17:19] <rouj> hello :)
[17:19] <Aaruni> or, MadLamb_mobile , step 1 tells you how to uninstall
[17:20] <Bluewolf> jhutchins: I use Hibernation a Lot so I will go for the 4GB unless I should add more. A linux mint member recommended I use double the Ram?
[17:21] <orbisvicis> I want to remove one broken package, provide solutions later regarding *other* broken packages, how can I do this ?
[17:21] <Yu-Yu> Bluewolf: No need to double more than 4GB of RAM unless you know you need to swap frequently.
[17:21] <reisio> Bluewolf: ignore him, already told you what you needed to know :p
[17:21] <reisio> jhutchins: stop confusing people :p
[17:22] <Yu-Yu> MadLamb_mobile: ATI?
[17:22] <Bluewolf> Okay have taken all the advice into consideration and have made a decision. Thanks for the help :D
[17:23] <Yu-Yu> ^,^
[17:23] <MadLamb_mobile> Yu-Yu, yes
[17:23] <ChibaPet> jhutchins: If the guy wants to hibernate, jhutchins' advice is pretty reasonable.
[17:23] <ChibaPet> Beats installing and then saying "oops, guess I can't hibernate". :P
[17:23] <Guest4354> thanks all
[17:24] <reisio> ChibaPet: not following my advice it isn't :p
[17:24] <reisio> he basically forced him to re-ask his question again
[17:24] <ChibaPet> Ah, I'll read scrollback more carefully.
[17:24] <reisio> !!! :p
[17:24] <Guest4354> got another question i always have issue starting teamviewer so i have to run "sudo /opt/teamviewer9/tv_bin/teamviewerd start" everytime. Is they a way i can make this command run as soon as i log in?
[17:25] <ChibaPet> Ah, right, I see what you mean. jhutchins is, indeed, very naughty.
[17:26] <Jordan_U> Guest4354: Don't run commands as root unless you're absolutely sure that they were designed to be, and need to be. Just getting a permissions error does *not* tell you either of those things.
[17:26] <Aaruni> how do you install multi-arch in trusty, not that ia32-libs are not longer there ?
[17:27] <Guest4354> Jordan_U it always say THE TEAMVIEWER DAEMON AS unable to start or something like that
[17:27] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni, i have the run file, but when i hit tab to autocomplete the file name, it doesnt work.
[17:27] <ChibaPet> Oh, in other news, I think I can boot this thing with USB ethernet and get the proprietary wireless drivers onto it without much pain.
[17:27] <Aaruni> MadLamb_mobile, chmod +x ./*.run
[17:27] <Jordan_U> Guest4354: Please pastebin the complete error message.
[17:28] <Yu-Yu> Aaruni: all hail ATI. ;D
[17:28] <Aaruni> Yu-Yu, you also ATI ?
[17:28] <Yu-Yu> Aaruni: All hail proprietary software, dammit. Yes, using that thing.
[17:29] <Aaruni> :lol:
[17:29] <Mega1> i have ubuntu server 10.04 and when i turn it on it blocks the internet for others
[17:29] <Guest4354> Jordan_U "TeamViewer Daemon is not running Please start teamviewerd and then restart TeamViewer"
[17:30] <Jordan_U> Guest4354: And if you try to start teamviewer without sudo?
[17:31] <vato21> lut
[17:31] <rydhwan> Hi,
[17:31] <reisio> hi
[17:31] <Guest4354> Jordan_U i havent try starting without sudo. 1 min let me log out and see
[17:32] <Aaruni> anyone from Ubuntu IRC council here ?
[17:32] <reisio> teamviewer only requires running its executable as any user, IME
[17:32] <IdleOne> Aaruni: try #ubuntu-ops
[17:32] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni, thaaanks man, it worked.
[17:32] <Aaruni> MadLamb_mobile, remove, or install ?
[17:34] <Jordan_U> Guest4354: I'm not familiar with teamviewerd, it may in fact need to be run as root (though I would hope not).
[17:34] <Sherwen> Has anyone got any suggestion for a decent fax program cable of using pci modem?
[17:34] <Aaruni> IdleOne, do they allow membership requests there ?
[17:34] <IdleOne> !membership > Aaruni
[17:35] <Yu-Yu> Aaruni: Running their proprietary installer after each kernel upgrade. ;D
[17:35] <rydhwan> how remove removable disk to apear in launcher ?
[17:35] <Aaruni> IdleOne, thanks
[17:35] <Aaruni> Yu-Yu, not for me :p
[17:35] <reisio> rydhwan: hrmm?
[17:35] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni, just ran the .run file again, it reinstalled.
[17:35] <reisio> Sherwen: :/
[17:36] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni,  now my unity is broken, no menu.
[17:36] <Jordan_U> Guest4354: How did you install teamviewer?
[17:36] <Aaruni> MadLamb_mobile, remember though, it will break after every kernel upgrade
[17:36] <dajhorn> Guest4354, you want the teamview_linux.deb for multiarch (not 64-bit, even on a 64-bit system), and it depends on an XDM session.
[17:36] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaroni, ill remeber ^^
[17:37] <Aaruni> MadLamb_mobile, Aar*u*ni
[17:37] <Yu-Yu> Aaruni: For me. ;D ;D
[17:38] <rydhwan> how remove removable disks to apear in launcher ?
[17:38] <MadLamb_mobile> Aaruni, ye ssry. Im on mobile. Mistype.
[17:38] <reisio> rydhwan: on the left?
[17:38] <rydhwan> yes
[17:39]  * Yu-Yu is on ATI 14.3 beta driver.
[17:39]  * Aaruni is also on ATI 14.3 beta driver
[17:39] <Aaruni> teamviewer wants ia32-libs, but no ia32-libs in trusty. help!
[17:40] <Guest43787> okay i tried running it wouldnt sudo and still got the error message "the teamviewer daemon is not running!" "please start the daemon(need root permissions) before running teamviewer
[17:40] <Guest43787> "
[17:41] <Aaruni> Guest43787, how did you install teamviewer on trusty? I get unmet dependencies error
[17:41] <MadLamb_mobile> My ubuntu is now booting only terminal by default, maybe tty1 how can i revert it to xstart?
[17:41] <Guest43787> Aaruni via terminal
[17:42] <reisio> mmmm
[17:42] <reisio> the teamviewer tarball from teamviewer.com comes with everything it needs
[17:42] <Aaruni> Guest43787, I get "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of teamviewer:
[17:42] <Aaruni> "
[17:42] <reisio> at least theoretically; it does help to have a real wine install
[17:42] <Aaruni> reisio, ^
[17:42] <reisio> Aaruni: dpkg is not involved in a tarball
[17:43] <Aaruni> reisio, I got a *.deb
[17:43] <Guest43787> Aaruni so how do i solve this issue?
[17:43] <reisio> Aaruni: just use the tarball
[17:43] <crhylove> An word on a fix for this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virt-manager/+bug/1223323?comments=all
[17:43] <crhylove> ?
[17:43] <Aaruni> Guest43787, I dunno, I am trying to install.
[17:43] <Aaruni> reisio, ok
[17:43] <crhylove> It's really hindering my OpenStack roll out. :/
[17:43] <Yu-Yu> WINE install? Of what?
[17:43] <reisio> install of wine
[17:43] <reisio> wine install
[17:44] <tyrog> Hi guys whenever I reboot my system my keyboard layout always reverts to English even though it is set to Portuguese by default. Is this a known bug? I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS standard with Unity
[17:44] <rydhwan> http://imgur.com/JvTDhfL
[17:45] <Yu-Yu> tyrog: Have met that before. I generally cut out things about GNOME3 and gnome-settings-daemon and use MATE instead…
[17:45] <linux|newb> when I try and install ubuntu 14.04 server from USB (which I created from unetbooin) it fails after hardware check with 'cd-rom couldn't be mounted' message...
[17:46] <reisio> linux|newb: I'd use dd over unetbootin, if you're up to it
[17:46] <rydhwan> how remove removable disks to apear in launcher ?
[17:46] <rydhwan> http://imgur.com/JvTDhfL
[17:46] <linux|newb> reisio: I'll give it a go
[17:46] <tyrog> Yu-Yu: MATE is a bit old though. Do you use it on top of Ubuntu 14.04 Unity ISO? Or Minimal/Network Install?
[17:46] <reisio> dd if=path/to/image.iso of=/dev/foo bs=1M (where /dev/foo is the usb device, be very sure it's correct)
[17:48] <stork91> current gtk for trusty is 3.6 right?
[17:48] <xangua> stork91: 14.04 comes with gnome 3.10
[17:49] <stork91> so... 3.10?
[17:49] <tyrog> xangua: 3.10
[17:50] <tyrog> sorry, I meant
[17:50] <tyrog> stork91: 3.10
[17:50] <tyrog> stork91: gtk 3.10
[17:51] <anfem> hey, is there a way to install mint display manager in ubuntu 14.04?
[17:51] <reisio> anfem: sure
[17:52] <reisio> particularly since mint is ubuntu
[17:52] <circ-user-NHyR1> hello
[17:52] <crhylove> Mint is like an ubuntu fork that fixes Unity.
[17:52] <reisio> no
[17:52] <hurdurdur> just upgrading to 14.04 in the background
[17:52] <majod> there are many ubuntu forks that fix unity. like xubuntu or ubuntu gnome
[17:52] <reisio> it's more like an Ubuntu copy that is more green
[17:52] <hurdurdur> crossing the fingers the wifi will remain working :D
[17:53] <reisio> if you don't want to use unity, you can simply not use it
[17:53] <reisio> cire: hi
[17:53] <reisio> hurdurdur: hi even
[17:53] <tyrog> crhylove: Mint is not a fork, its a derivative. And regarding what it fixes and whatnot, is a matter of personal preference
[17:53] <rydhwan> how remove removable disks to apear in launcher ?
[17:53] <rydhwan> http://imgur.com/JvTDhfL
[17:53] <reisio> tyrog: it really isn't (a matter of preference)
[17:53] <waufrepi> hello, I just upgraded to 14.04 ... I used to be able to use /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh  when /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn .. when a user hit the power button .... looks like power butoon events are maybe being caught with sytemd-logind now?
[17:53] <reisio> since all of its differences are easily delineated
[17:53] <d[0]g> good day
[17:53] <d[0]g> is init.d broke at 14.04 ?
[17:53] <reisio> d[0]g: g'day
[17:54] <reisio> d[0]g: broken?
[17:54] <d[0]g> gday
[17:54] <Aaruni> rydhwan, I just manually selected "unlock from launcher"
[17:54] <crhylove> I agree with everything stated above.  But there are a number of good fixes in Mint.  I haven't tried the newest Ubuntu yet though, so maybe they've backported some of it. :D
[17:54] <reisio> crhylove: like what?
[17:54] <d[0]g> my services aint being initialized at starup anymore
[17:54] <d[0]g> apache snmpd sendmail ...
[17:54] <tyrog> reisio: I was just criticizing the use of the word 'fix' in that context
[17:54] <d[0]g> update-rc.d says they r enabled
[17:54] <d[0]g> but they dont get initialized
[17:54] <d[0]g> oi
[17:54] <reisio> how are you determining they've not been "initialized"?
[17:55] <d[0]g> they are not starting
[17:55] <d[0]g> like
[17:55] <d[0]g> i reboot
[17:55] <d[0]g> and the servers just dont get initilized
[17:55] <linux|newb> reisio: doesn't give me a boot menu with dd
[17:55] <crhylove> Well Cinnamon is great.  I also liked Mate until the latest version.  Some of the default apps are better (not all), and the display management is an improvement as well (or was, as I said, haven't tried latest Mint).  I was distro hopping a lot for the past couple of years, but now I have to do real work, so I landed on the default Mint musical chair.
[17:55] <d[0]g> sudo update-rc.d arpwatch enable
[17:55] <d[0]g> update-rc.d: warning:  start runlevel arguments (none) do not match arpwatch Default-Start values (2 3 4 5)
[17:56] <reisio> linux|newb: doesn't need one to boot a single OS, does it?
[17:56] <d[0]g> sudo update-rc.d snmpd enable
[17:56] <d[0]g> Adding system startup for /etc/init.d/snmpd ...
[17:56] <d[0]g>    /etc/rc1.d/K20snmpd -> ../init.d/snmpd
[17:56] <d[0]g> ...
[17:56] <d[0]g> any ideas ?
[17:57] <hurdurdur> anyone on 14.04 and using intel's 7260 wifi ... will it work out of the box ? (did not with 13.10 .... but was ok after some firmware upgrades)
[17:57] <tyrog> crhylove: at least you are being realistic on your analysis. Just use what you like :) . But since Unity has improved so much in 14.04 I think people should give it another try. Even though I also appreciate other DEs :)
[17:57] <reisio> tyrog: how's it improved?
[17:57] <linux|newb> reisio: true but it's not booting to the install
[17:57] <rydhwan> i love unity
[17:57] <genii> d[0]g: All the old sysvinit stuff is called now from the upstart script /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf
[17:57] <linux|newb> even with usb as first boot device
[17:58] <tyrog> reisio: Performance, for me that is a very noticeable improvement. Among other little tweaks
[17:58] <hurdurdur> i cant say i love unity .... but i have managed to learn to use it , i will keep it for now
[17:58] <d[0]g> genii
[17:58] <reisio> tyrog: anything you can describe? :p
[17:58] <d[0]g> how do i get my srvers ruuning at boot ?
[17:58] <anfem> well i'm having trouble installing. i added a ppa but when i run sudo apt-get install mdm as instructed it doesn't work...
[17:59] <tyrog> reisio: There are many websites describing it in more detail. Why don't you search for yourself? :)
[17:59] <hurdurdur> mmm anfem, can you define "not working" ?
[17:59] <Programmer_> anyone having issues with chromium syncing tabs between phone and desktop correctly since the 14.04 update?
[17:59] <genii> d[0]g: When you do something like: sudo service apache start    ( might be apache2 there instead)  do you get any message?
[18:00] <reisio> tyrog: 'cause you brought it up and I figured you weren't just typing for typing's sake
[18:00] <d[0]g> they load as expected
[18:00] <d[0]g> i dont want to go rc.local
[18:00] <anfem> well when i run apt-get install mdm it does not install the mint display manager.
[18:00] <d[0]g> cause everything is like it should be
[18:00] <d[0]g> just, they simple dont get initialized at boot
[18:00] <hurdurdur> what does it do instead of installing it ...
[18:00] <hurdurdur> any kind of error message or anything ?
[18:01] <anfem> well, in reality, it installs another package named mdm, which was there in the ubuntu repos before i added the ppa.
[18:03] <reisio> if you want something more like GNOME 2 but actually well supported, try Xfce
[18:03] <tyrog> or MATE
[18:04] <reisio> nah, not really mate
[18:04] <Programmer_> Anyone know how to stop Krunner automatically launching if I start typing on the desktop? kinda annoying which I start typing thinking im typing into a window that just popped up? I'm on 14.04 btw.
[18:05] <reisio> Programmer_: I'd ask #kde
[18:05] <Programmer_> ok
[18:05] <tyrog> Programmer_: and #kubuntu
[18:05] <genii> d[0]g: If you make sure the upstart service for them is stopped with something like sudo service apache2 stop    ... then try to start it in the old sysinit way like /etc/init.d/apache2 start     ...are they starting this way?
[18:06] <genii> Meh, work, afk.
[18:06] <d[0]g> yes they r
[18:07] <d[0]g> see screeny
[18:07] <d[0]g> http://picpaste.com/pics/Imagem-Terminal-1-zfdiNuRL.1398103619.png
[18:07] <reisio> d[0]g: what's the problem
[18:07] <d[0]g> my servers are not being initialized at starup
[18:07] <d[0]g> bottom init scripts are not being run like they used to
[18:07] <d[0]g> :c
[18:09] <d[0]g> http://picpaste.com/pics/Imagem-Terminal-2-046cRbpI.1398103771.png
[18:09] <d[0]g> ideas ?
[18:11] <MadLamb> hey guys, i came here few minutes ago with a problem with my ati drivers, i was able to solve it with some help, but now when i boot my pc, it goes to tty1 instead of tty7 and also it doesnt run startx, so even if i ctrl+alt+f7, it only shows the blinking cursor. Then i have to manually startx on tty1, and then i'm able to see unity in tty7
[18:11] <cxxc> anyone know how to connect to an openvpn access server
[18:14] <leader> !list
[18:16] <Jordan_U> MadLamb: What is the output of "service lightdm status"?
[18:16] <k-joseph> hi guys, i have just installed r-cran-coda but i don't know how to start it, this was not oncluded on the page i used, any help!!!!
[18:17] <MadLamb> Jordan_U, service lightdm status
[18:17] <MadLamb> Jordan_U, oops.lightdm stop/waiting
[18:17] <Pici> k-joseph: I would assume that you would use it inside of R.
[18:19] <padrelalas> hello
[18:19] <k-joseph> Pici: what is R?
[18:20] <Yu-Yu> k-joseph: Then you don't have to install it before reading docs on how you gonna use it.
[18:20] <quem> hmm, my installation of ubuntu 14.04 server doesn't automatically proceed from the grub menu.
[18:20] <oenvoyage> hello everyone. My audio on ubuntu 14.04 is not working anymore... it worked after fresh install.. seems i installed gnome desktop, and maybe did other things inbeetween.
[18:21] <oenvoyage> here is my alsa information output : http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=2b054571bd0885a1427364b9d5701424d3196421
[18:23] <Pici> k-joseph: R is a programming language for statistical analysis.  The r-cran-coda package is a set of routines for that language.
[18:23] <bwe> Hey, I get a timeout trying to connect to my sshd on machine A from machine B (A+B now in the same local network 192.168.178...;). However, if I remove the port forwarding from the router configuration, I my connect gets refused. Both the local and the public IP fail to connect to (timeout).
[18:24] <k-joseph> Pici, wait how different is r-cran-coda from coda the file explorer that allows file editting etc
[18:24] <k-joseph> ?
[18:24] <Jordan_U> quem: Please pastebin the contents of /boot/grub/grubenv .
[18:24] <bwe> I followed the Troubleshooting part in http://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring and get the expected results, with the very exception of a timeout.
[18:25] <Pici> k-joseph: I don't think it has anything to do with what you are describing.
[18:25] <Pici> k-joseph: did you look at the package description before installing it?
[18:26] <rouj> Hi, how can i hide mail/envelope icon on top panel. thanks
[18:26] <k-joseph> Pici: i was looking for mainly coda, sorry, looks like i installed another non wanted app,
[18:26] <Wilco> guys what you be your best excuse to people who migrate from windows xp why in ubuntu you cannot place applicaiton launch icons on the desktop
[18:26] <cxxc> i keep getting an error message when connecting to my vpn. can someone help?
[18:26] <Wilco> i'm geting hammers by annoying people
[18:26] <Wilco> hammers=hammered
[18:27] <cxxc>  ERROR: Cannot ioctl TUNSETIFF tun: Operation not permitted (errno=1) <<<what does that mean?
[18:28] <k-joseph> but still i downloaded one other package for coda-6.9.1 which when i run  ./configure i get this error configure: error: "unable to find rp2gen. try --with-lwp option"
[18:28] <quem> Jordan_U: hold on
[18:28] <OerHeks> Wilco,  best excuse: do it the ubuntu way, put icons on your sidepanel, and forget XP
[18:29] <quem> Jordan_U: it's just a long sequence of hash symbols.
[18:29] <k-joseph> Pici: any idea on how i can clear that
[18:29] <Sivik> I think I regret upgrading to 14.04
[18:29] <Pici> k-joseph: sudo apt-get remove r-cran-coda
[18:29] <Sivik> the driver support for ati sucks
[18:29] <k-joseph> Pici: then?
[18:30] <Pici> k-joseph: then the package is removed.
[18:30] <Sivik> any thoughs on getting ati repo drivers to work with dual video cards?  Was working fine in 13.10
[18:30] <Wilco> 0erheks - i have people here with tons of icons on thier desktop - the side panel simply not enough
[18:30] <MadLamb> Jordan_U, you asked me the output of service lightdm status. it is "lightdm stop/waiting".
[18:30] <k-joseph> Pici: configure: error: "unable to find rp2gen. try --with-lwp option"
[18:30] <Jordan_U> quem: Please reboot again. I think you will find that it will boot normally, without intervention.
[18:31] <k-joseph> Pici: but still i downloaded one other package for coda-6.9.1 which when i run  ./configure i get this error configure: error: "unable to find rp2gen. try --with-lwp option"
[18:31] <Ender> Why did #ubuntu+1 go "invite only" all of a suddent?
[18:31] <quem> Jordan_U: ah, any ideas what may have caused it not to in this case?
[18:31] <Jordan_U> Ender: Because there is no +1 to discuss yet.
[18:31] <Ender> Ah, that makes sense
[18:32] <Jordan_U> quem: Ubuntu has a recordfail feature that is intended to unhide the menu if the last boot failed, so that the user can intervene and chose different options.
[18:33] <quem> ah, but shouldn't the timeout work?
[18:34] <quem> Jordan_U: here's the content of my /etc/defaults/grub, http://pastebin.com/0EemW6K8
[18:34] <Jordan_U> quem: I believe the default is still to disable the timeout entirely if a failed last boot is detected, with Ubuntu specific options in /etc/default/grub for changing that behavior.
[18:34] <Pici> k-joseph: Um.. I'm looking at the coda docs, it is not a file explorer.
[18:34] <quem> maybe just commenting GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT will fix it?
[18:35] <quem> Jordan_U: ah, ok
[18:35] <k-joseph> Pici: any way, am interested in it as an editor https://panic.com/coda/
[18:36] <cheseazz> k-joseph: Your what
[18:36] <dooglus> the little icon that lets me pick what wireless network to connect to has vanished
[18:36] <quem> Jordan_U: found an option, GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=N
[18:36] <quem> Jordan_U: thanks for leading me in the right direction.
[18:36] <dooglus> if I run 'nm-applet' in a terminal, I see:
[18:36] <dooglus> $ nm-applet
[18:36] <dooglus> ** (nm-applet:2631): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-dCfosGj1Yy: Connection refused
[18:36] <dooglus> why might that be?  I tried rebooting, but still no network icon
[18:36] <Jordan_U> quem: You're welcome.
[18:37] <cheseazz> dooglus: right
[18:37] <k-joseph> cheseazz: am not sure if i understand what u mean
[18:37] <Estrobeda> hmm i just installed ubuntu 14.04 and when checking for drivers ubuntu gets internal error. I want to use my nvidia card instead of intel..
[18:37] <dooglus> cheseazz: huh?
[18:37] <Pici> k-joseph: Are you sure that they actually have a Linux version?
[18:37] <k-joseph> Pici: yes, i even dowloaded one
[18:37] <dw1> Estrobeda: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[18:38] <cheseazz> Pici: sure. Who is
[18:38] <stork91> is there a .tell system in this channel?
[18:38] <Pici> k-joseph: coda-6.9.1 is for the networking filesystem coda, released in 1997 by Carnegie Mellon university.
[18:38] <Jordan_U> MadLamb: What is contents of /proc/cmdline?
[18:38] <stork91> .tell steffg thanks for all your help. Got rid of the orange.
[18:39] <stork91> guess now
[18:39] <stork91> *not
[18:39] <Pici> k-joseph: it has nothing to do with the editor.
[18:39] <stork91> So, I altered the Ambiance theme to be blue
[18:40] <stork91> I basically like everything but that damned orange color
[18:40] <Jordan_U> k-joseph: That editor appears to only be available for OSX. Try looking around at the options you have for editors in Software Center.
[18:40] <k-joseph> Pici: thanks, i hope that's what i was taking to be what i was looking for, sorry please for taking your precious time
[18:40] <stork91> Have to say, looks pretty damn good now
[18:40] <k-joseph> Jordan_U: ok, thanks
[18:41] <hurdurdur> gee this update takes long
[18:41] <Jordan_U> k-joseph: You're welcome.
[18:42] <dooglus> nobody?
[18:44] <quem> dooglus: try restarting dbus maybe? sudo service dbus restart
[18:44] <dw1> dooglus: what about sudo service network-manager restart
[18:45] <Mikerhinos> i'm trying to watch content US only from EU, I've read that it's possible using a VPN, anyone has a good ressource to learn what is it and how to setup ?
[18:45] <dw1> Mikerhinos: usually you pay a server to relay your connection
[18:45] <dooglus> I tried rebooting - wouldn't that be enough?
[18:46] <dooglus> I'm using xfce not unity if that matters
[18:46] <dw1> Mikerhinos: http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/readerpicks/tp/The-Best-VPN-Service-Providers.htm
[18:46] <Mikerhinos> dw1: oh, isn't there a free way to watch US content ? (free content)
[18:46] <dooglus> I just edited /usr/share/applications/gnome-network-panel.desktop and replaced "OnlyShowIn=GNOME;" with "OnlyShowIn=GNOME;XFCE;".  will try rebooting now
[18:47] <Beldar> dooglus, release and desktop, and any info to a cause and effect are really helpful.
[18:47] <dw1> Mikerhinos: maybe.. but dont do anything private on it..  http://google.com/search?q=free+us+vpn
[18:48] <dw1> Mikerhinos: most free are likely a scam .. noone wants to pay for your traffic for free
[18:49] <penguin42> dw1: Be a great way to capture peoples data - like cheap phone routing....
[18:49] <Mikerhinos> dw1: in fact I wasn't speaking of a free VPN, but is there a free alternative to VPN or is it the only way ? A few months ago I had a Firefox extension that allowed me to change my IP sent to servers but it won't work anymore
[18:50] <TheCrusher908> Hi all. Could someone tell me the best way to install Ubuntu to an USB-drive to make it bootable on a mac?
[18:50] <dw1> Mikerhinos: sometimes you can watch videos through a web-based service but its not very common.. http://hidemyass.com
[18:50] <catcher> What's the right way to set a static IP over CLI?  /etc/network/interfaces?
[18:50] <TheCrusher908> UNetbootin seems to do something weird with the bootloader, which doesn’t work with a display
[18:50] <Dave8503> I need a little help
[18:50] <jhutchins> catcher: Yes.
[18:51] <Dave8503> I mounted my ntfs partitions using fstab - https://sc-cdn.scaleengine.net/i/8382d1a0f7fe3594e10c7307b203e6a5.png . Windows, localdiskD and localdiskE
[18:51] <jhutchins> catcher: Unless you're doing something dynamic, in which case there are commands to set up a connection manually.
[18:51] <Dave8503> but when I try to remove something from one of these drivers I got this - https://sc-cdn.scaleengine.net/i/f10ceb05e060a6b932ce3e404dcfada6.png
[18:51] <orbisvicis> how do I pin/prefer a virtual package? For example PackageA depends PackageB and PackageC provides PackageB, how do I give PackageC priority over PackageB ?
[18:52] <Dave8503> what option should I add of fstab to have full access on my drives
[18:52] <Dave8503> ?
[18:52] <dw1> Dave8503: it has access it just cant put in trash
[18:52] <Dave8503> why so? In 12.04 there were no problems
[18:52] <dw1> Dave8503: because windows drives dont have trash folders
[18:53] <Dave8503> I mean, if I remove something by mistaks it's all gone
[18:53] <Tuxy-J> anyone here set win rdp up with 14.04 yet
[18:53] <Dave8503> mistake*
[18:53] <Beldar> Dave8503, Changing the windows partitions from linux is a bad idea
[18:53] <catcher> jhutchins, stock 14.04LTS, I'll try the interface, thanks
 through system monitor maybe?
[18:53] <dw1> Dave8503: yep no undo
[18:53] <Dave8503> then, they changed something
 you can change priority from there higher and lower
[18:54] <Dave8503> because in 12.04 everything worked
[18:54] <Dave8503> move to trash - restore
[18:54] <drezir> Hi, since last update 14.04 there is network manager icon/applet missing on my Xubuntu PC. Can anyone help? Thank you
[18:54] <orbisvicis> GTR: this is pbuilder, so no gui
[18:55] <dw1> Dave8503: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=804083&p=5021804#post5021804
[18:56] <dw1> Dave8503: try mounting as user not root
[18:56] <Dave8503> let me try, thanks for tips, dw1
[18:57] <dw1> Dave8503: "I did not have to edit my fstab, all I did to fix this was create the .Trash-1000 on the root dir of the drive, and chown -R it to myself."
[18:57] <dooglus> rebooting didn't help again, and restarting network-manager pops up a few bubbles from nm-applet
[18:57] <orbisvicis> i'll ask over on -devel
[18:57] <setuid> Is there a way to 'speed up' the DREADFULLY slow UI in 14.04? When I click the "Search" icon in the upper-left, and start typing say... 'terminal', it is about 5-6 keystrokes behind my typing.
[18:58] <setuid> Takes 1-3 seconds for each letter to appear on the screen: t...... e...... r...... m..... i.....
[18:58] <dooglus> I can now use the gnome 'network' panel ("gnome-control-center network") to connect to a network, and it works: http://i.imgur.com/Pt636uk.png - but still no nm-applet icon in the taskbar
[18:58] <Jordan_U> setuid: Likely a driver problem. Getting proper 3D accelerated drivers will likely eliminate the lag.
[18:58] <drezir> Hi, since last update 14.04 there is network manager icon/applet missing on my Xubuntu PC. Can anyone help? Thank you
[18:59] <setuid> Jordan_U, Not possible, this is inside a VM, and it worked in previous versions
[18:59] <GTR> can anyone help with sound streams
[18:59] <setuid> Jordan_U, why does it need to be 3D for a 2D search box at all?
[18:59] <dooglus> drezir: that's exactly my issue
[18:59] <Jordan_U> setuid: What VM software? Unity/compiz uses OpenGL.
[18:59] <setuid> Let me see if enabling 3D support would help
[18:59] <setuid> Jordan_U, ESXi
[18:59] <setuid> 5.1
[19:00] <dooglus> drezir: it was fine after upgrading t 14.04, but it broke recently presumably with an update
[19:00] <dooglus> to*
[19:00] <Jordan_U> setuid: There are accelerated drivers for VMware, I expect just installing vmware-tools will get you good graphical performance.
[19:00] <setuid> Jordan_U, I'm using the native vmware tools, not open-vm-tools
[19:00] <drezir> Ok
[19:01] <GTR> drszir:  sudo service network-manager restart     try that or you can try something with start
[19:01] <setuid> so it should be as close to 'vendor-stock' as possible
[19:01] <dooglus> drezir: does this help?  http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/fix-lubuntu-1404-network-manager.html
[19:01] <dooglus> GTR: I tried that.  it pops up some bubbles, but doesn't make the icon appear
[19:02] <Jordan_U> setuid: Please pastebin your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:02] <dooglus> drezir: that page doesn't help me - nm-applet is running, just not being shown in the notification area
[19:02] <drezir> dooglus, i am going to try it
[19:02] <dooglus> drezir: let us know how it goes
[19:03] <Jordan_U> setuid: Alternatively, you could ignore the driver problem and use a non-OpenGL environment like XFCE or LXDE.
[19:04] <MadLamb> Jordan_U, the contents of /proc/cmdline is BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-19-generic root=UUID=2c1f3050-6f00-40f0-a7e6-bfbab67a16fd ro quiet splash text vt.handoff=7
[19:04] <Jordan_U> MadLamb: Do you know what the "text" kernel parameter means?
[19:04] <MadLamb> Jordan_U, i supposed the "text" is the problem, how can i update that?}
[19:05] <drezir> dooglus, No, it does not work. Even reinstalling nm-applet does not work. I guess that we have to wait for another update
[19:05] <MadLamb> Jordan_U, edit the file?
[19:05] <Jordan_U> MadLamb: Remove it from /etc/default/grub and then "sudo update-grub".
[19:05] <MadLamb> Jordan_U, already removed from there, i didnt know about update-grub
[19:06] <dooglus> pretty sure that these are the only packages I've updated since it was working: http://pastie.org/9098266
[19:06] <rahullll> hi , Can Anyone open www.olark.com on ubuntu 14.04 or upgraded 13.10 ??
[19:06] <dooglus> could any of those affected it?
[19:06] <MadLamb> Jordan_U, weird, updated grub but "text" is still in cmdline
[19:07] <rahullll> I can open www.olark.com on 12.04 NON UPGRADED
[19:07] <dooglus> desktop-file-utils:amd64 maybe?
[19:07] <GTR> drszir:  you found solution yet? I have some packets in my running processes that start with indicatior-... and have most of the icons next to the clock
[19:08] <rahullll> But as soon as I update ubuntu 12.04 to anything 13 or recent 14 , www.olark.com/‎ does not load --- here is a related page ---- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2145713
[19:08] <jcstarken> trying to get my scanner working in 12.04 LTS 32bit suggestions please
[19:08] <margaret> How can I change keyboard shortcuts for Tools/Explorer/HomePage/.. in 14.04? In All Settings - Keyboard - Custom Shortcuts it worked until 13.10.
[19:09] <dooglus> GTR: I think he gave up, and is waiting for the next update to fix it
[19:09] <MadLamb> jcstarken, if its HP you can use HPLIB
[19:09] <dooglus> GTR: I don't think that's how it works though..
[19:09] <GTR> damn the update didn`t help me though
[19:09] <GTR> sound stream problems
[19:10] <jcstarken> Madlamb: thank you it is a fujitsu scansnap
[19:10] <zmanfx> Already asked this on #ubuntu-gnome but... I installed Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 from the 14.04 iso image but... I go into the details panel and it says "ubuntu 13.10"... something not get updated or what?
[19:10] <MadLamb> jcstarken, so i dont know, sorry
[19:10] <zmanfx> Just seems kinda strange. That's all.
[19:11] <Blueeyez> I cant access a encrypted disk made in Ubuntu 13.10 and now trying to access it from  Ubuntu 14.04, the encryption is the built in in Ubuntu (LVM i belive)
[19:12] <zmanfx> I wonder if it has anything to do with the VM I installed it in and the extensions it installed.
[19:12] <heyddit> Hi, anyone having problem using Bumblebee to enable nvidia optimus in ubuntu 14.04?
[19:13] <Blueeyez> this is the error i get: https://ubuntudanmark.dk/forum/download/file.php?id=558
[19:14] <Nytram> jcstarken, Try the foomatic drivers
[19:15] <jcstarken> Nytram: thank you I will google that
[19:15] <stefg> Blueeyez: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto3 already? The section about manual mounting/unmounting?
[19:15] <dooglus> is there any way I can get some help with this?  I'm willing to pay if necessary
[19:16] <Nytram> Yeah! I don't use them myself jcstarken but there's good guidance on t'internet. ;)
[19:18] <stefg> dooglus: reading http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html is a start. A bit old, but still worth a read
[19:20] <matty> hello I am using ubuntu 13.10,  what is a pretty window border and theme I can use
[19:22] <stefg> matty: .... that's a question of personal taste...  me personally uses faenza icons and (until gtk3.8 broke it) the MediterraneanNight themes.
[19:24] <dooglus> stefg: was there something wrong with how I asked?  I think I followed all those rules
[19:26] <stefg> dooglus: no, i just came and didn't read your question. (BTW i'm not in the position to judge about 'right' or 'wrong' questions). .. so if you put your question again let me see if i know something about it..
[19:26] <matan> hello
[19:26] <matan> :)
[19:26] <matan> ?
[19:26] <stefg> !hello
[19:27] <matan> new to ubuntu tought i will get somehelp here :P
[19:27] <Jordan_U> MadLamb: /proc/cmdline just tells you what kernel parameters were passed to the kernel when you booted.
[19:27] <dooglus> stefg: I just typed it up here: http://askubuntu.com/a/452353/45642 -- basically the network manager applet icon isn't showing up in xfce4 after a recent update (post 14.04)
[19:27] <dooglus> (and so I can't connect to any non-default wireless networks)
[19:28] <matan> how do i change my resolution to 1600:900
[19:28] <matan> ?
[19:28] <matan> ! any one?
[19:28] <dooglus> I'm going out of cellphone coverage now so won't see your reply until I get back to civilisation
[19:28] <dooglus> but I'll check when I get back
[19:28] <dooglus> thanks in advance :)
[19:29] <matan> any one here?
[19:29] <matan> +i
[19:30] <matan> hello?
[19:30] <matan> is any body tehre?
[19:30] <musca> hello matan
[19:30] <robheaton> Hello!
[19:30] <Yu-Yu> matan: What are you waiting for? Ban?
[19:30] <matan> a living human being! alast!
[19:30] <matan> im new :(
[19:30] <matan> i am having a difcculty with chancing resolution
[19:30] <stefg> dooglus: i use unity (and like it!) , so there's not much i can tell you about xfce. have you put this question in #xubuntu as well?
[19:31] <Yu-Yu> matan: If no-one replies you, generally, it means not that no-one noticed it.
[19:31] <matan> i didnt know people see my massages sense all of that connect/disccounect messages keep popping up...
[19:31] <matan> any wey to disable them?
[19:32] <mmo|> hi, my new install of ubuntu 14.04 crashes (kernel panic) when my tv is plugged into the hdmi port. Now, I dont need tv out in ubuntu, so anyone know how to disable the hdmi port?
[19:32] <DJones> !quietirc | matan
[19:34] <Jordan_U> mmo|: Please file a bug report.
[19:34] <Jordan_U> mmo|: You can use "ubuntu-bug linux" to do so.
[19:35] <MikeRL> This is a good release. But I've noticed a lot of paper cut bugs in Gnome applications, like two menu bars in solitaire, and no window controls in Gnome maps.
[19:35] <MikeRL> Is it worth it to report these as bugs?
[19:35] <stefg> dooglus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218514
[19:35] <MikeRL> I mean Gnome Maps isn't top-tier support category, but it's pretty badly broken.
[19:36] <matan> is tehre a wey to bring the music folder from a windows 7 to the ubuntu music folder?
[19:36] <MikeRL> If I sort of just jumped in, sorry, I will wait of course until other users that were here before are helped.
[19:37] <stefg> matan: you mean to share it between ubuntu and windows on a dual boot machine?
[19:37] <matan> yes
[19:38] <Jordan_U> MikeRL: Yes, please do report them.
[19:38] <trism> MikeRL: the solitaire bug looks pretty old: bug 879577
[19:39] <stefg> matan: do you have a separate data partition, or is that music folder stuffed inside your Windows OS partition?
[19:39] <matan> i used Unet
[19:39] <trism> MikeRL: also bug 1263412 , I imagine they are probably the same issue
[19:39] <stefg> matan: so you mean wubi?
[19:39] <ki7rw> well, 14.04 upgrade has gone well for the most part but it did kill skype on one box - i'm still trying to re-install it - strange how installs perform differently on different boxes
[19:39] <MikeRL> Yeah not exactly major bugs, but they are annoying.
[19:40] <matan> i am sorry, i do not have the anwer for that, i feel very out matched her xD. is tehre any wey i can check the partitions from ubuntu?
[19:40] <MikeRL> Gparted.
[19:40] <matan> i can link the proggram i used if it helps
[19:40] <stefg> matan: can you see your windows partition from inside ubuntu?
[19:41] <bencc> is it possible that I didn't have a single package updated since the release of 14.04?
[19:41] <matan> are you asking if i can see my windows files form my *explorer*? no. i cant
[19:41] <Beldar> bencc, yes
[19:42] <matan> i used Unetbootin
[19:42] <bencc> Beldar: so should I wait few weeks before upgrading my server? I want the simple bugs fixed
[19:44] <MikeRL> I'd wait a month or so. Depends on what release you're on currently.
[19:44] <bencc> MikeRL: I'm on 12.04. I'll wait
[19:44] <stefg> matan: Unetbootin is just a tool to prepare USB-sticks. that says nothing about your installation. if you feel up to it you can run run 'cat /proc/partitions' from a terminal in ubuntu and paste the results to http://paste.ubuntu.com.
[19:44] <Beldar> bencc, what release is the server, in general I would wait a little while for the servers to calm down.
[19:44] <daedeloth> does anyone know how to get 5.1 sound trough s/pdif?
[19:45] <MikeRL> bencc: I'd wait a month to three months. Then upgrade.
[19:45] <matan> i will do that
[19:45] <Jordan_U> bencc: do-release-upgrade won't even offer to upgrade from 12.04 until 14.04.1 .
[19:45] <Beldar> bencc, Follow that 12.04 info given, that is why I asked what release.
[19:45] <bencc> Jordan_U: usually I do full installation with backup/resotre the data
[19:46] <MikeRL> Wait at least until 12.04.1
[19:46] <matan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7301801/
[19:46] <matan> there
[19:46] <MikeRL> Oops.
[19:47] <stefg> matan: are you running afrom USB-Stick right now?
[19:47] <MikeRL> Forgot to check my dates.
[19:47] <matan> no
[19:47] <MikeRL> If you're using that server for really important stuff, I'd wait till 14.04.1 later this year. If you can handle the bugs, you could try it in a month or two.
[19:48] <genii> Heh, fd0
[19:48] <stefg> matan:  so you have 2 harddisks, right?
[19:48] <matan> yes indead :)
[19:49] <MikeRL> Then again, I honestly haven't set up a server once, yet anyhow. But I can speak from what I've heard others say.
[19:49] <stefg> matan: an where is your music?
[19:49] <matan> the C:/ in the music folder
[19:50] <matan> ok i fou8nd the music folder, but is tehre a wey to sync it/share it with the ubuntu music folder?
[19:51] <ddelrio1986> Already have windows 8.1 installed. Trying to isntall Ubuntu 13.10 but no install alongside option is available. I've disables Intel Rapid Start, secure boot, and fast boot. Any ideas?
[19:51] <kingbeowolf> i upgraded to ubuntu 14.04 but i dont have the black theme and new icons
[19:51] <kingbeowolf> do those come with 14.04?
[19:51] <daninoz> hi guys, I have ubuntu 13.10 and I'm going to update to 14.04. Should I do something before that? My only worry is that I have propietary AMD drivers installed.
[19:51] <Beldar> ddelrio1986, Have you resized windows from it's partitioner leaving a unallocated space for ubuntu?
[19:52] <ddelrio1986> Beldar, yes there is 250 GB of unallocated space.
[19:52] <xangua> kingbeowolf: enter your Appearence settings and select the Ambiance theme
[19:52] <stefg> matan: i will not be able to talk you through the whole process. it is (quite easily) possible to access windows drives from ubuntu, but on the long run it would be wiser to have your media on a separate partition/drive that you share between the OSs.
[19:52] <Beldar> ddelrio1986, This is a UEFI/gpt W8?
[19:52] <ddelrio1986> Beldar, yep.
[19:53] <ddelrio1986> Beldar, wait gpt?
[19:53] <matan> i see, ty. is it possible to? sholde i google it even?
[19:53] <Beldar> ddelrio1986, OEM UEFI computers are usin gpt partitioning, My question really additionally is did you install windows?
[19:54] <stefg> matan: http://askubuntu.com/questions/114067/how-do-i-access-my-music-and-documents-from-windows7-on-ubuntu is a starting point
[19:54] <Beldar> ddelrio1986, Are you on the live ubuntu now?
[19:54] <matan> ty very much kind sir :) you deserve a cooky
[19:54] <ddelrio1986> Beldar, oh it seems that gpt replaced mbr for partitioning. I'm pretty sure mine is gpt. I know it is using UEFI. No I didn't install Windows it came with my laptop.
[19:54] <user90> ubuntu SUX
[19:54] <ddelrio1986> Beldar, no I am on windows now.
[19:55] <Beldar> ddelrio1986, Ah, it is best to be on the live ubuntu to get this resolved from the channel help is all, if you want to just get installed.
[19:56] <ddelrio1986> Beldar, let me switch over to it then. BRB.
[19:56] <Beldar> since you have a unallocated space ready, you have the windows backed up/imaged/cloned? ddelrio1986
[19:57] <matan_> i am having a diffrent problem. i cannot acceses my full resulotion on ubuntu, i can only acceses a 4:3, while my monitor is capable of 16:9
[19:58] <darkelfjuggalo> I can't log in to my ubuntu laptop after dist upgrade can someone tell me what files I need to try to install manually?  it reads that my password is correct but 'failed to start session'
[19:58] <mitya> csá
[19:58] <mitya> ki van itt ?
[19:59] <Beldar> darkelfjuggalo, Did the dist-upgrade happen to have a kernel upgrade?
[19:59] <evilaliv3> hi all
[19:59] <darkelfjuggalo> I didn't notice
[19:59] <ddelrio1986> Beldar, I am on the live ubuntu now.
[19:59] <evilaliv3> is there a schedule date for the 14.04 alternate ?
[20:00] <Beldar> ddelrio1986, Do  you have the windows backed up/imaged/cloned, and a recovery disc made?
[20:00] <Pici> evilaliv3: 'alternate'? We haven't provided an alternate install CD in a few releases.
[20:00] <DJones> evilaliv3: What do you mean 14.04 Alternate? If you mean an alternate install iso, they're not produced anymore
[20:01] <gothaggis> i upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04...and am using samba / krb5 for active directory authentication.  worked great on 12.04...after the upgrade, it no longer works.  seems that there may have been some breaking changes in samba4?  anyone know what they were? found a few things googling, but i'm still unable to log into my machine with my domain account. kerberos has a valid ticket, have joined my machine to the domain using net ads join without issu
[20:01] <gothaggis> e.  logging in with my domain account just always tells me invalid password.
[20:01] <ddelrio1986> I have all of my important stuff on a cloud. I also have a way to reinstall windows granted that I don't mess with the other partitions.
[20:01] <ddelrio1986> Beldar, ^
[20:01] <evilaliv3> ah ok Pici DJones
[20:01] <evilaliv3> so is there the possibility to do a custom format with lvm or not?
[20:01] <evilaliv3> the desktop iso does now allow it?
[20:01] <maujhsn> Does Gstreamer have the ability to extract "n" amounts of video frames from lets say 35 seconds of video?
[20:01] <evilaliv3> *formatting sorry
[20:02] <darkelfjuggalo> how do I pull up the console from the logon screen?  how do I check my kernel version?
[20:02] <evilaliv3> i remember that in the past the desktop edition permits only an automatic lvm partitioning formatting
[20:02] <evilaliv3> does it now allow a custom one ?
[20:02] <Slart> darkelfjuggalo: ctrl+alt+F1  should get you a text-based terminal, alt+F7 to get back to the gui
[20:03] <ddelrio1986> Beldar, should I just choose something else and manually create the partitions I'll need. Then install there. I probably won't be able to get to windows then but I could use boot repair for that.
[20:03] <Beldar> darkelfjuggalo, Ah, well anything can happen, I would not consider you safe really. However here is a good link, besides help you will get here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[20:03] <genii> darkelfjuggalo: ctrl-alt-F1 through F6 key to switch to a console from the graphical login. alt-F7 to return to it.
[20:03] <Slart> darkelfjuggalo: note that you'll have to login, in the terminal, before you can do anything
[20:03] <Diabolika> ciao
[20:03] <Slart> darkelfjuggalo: uname -a   should get you your kernel version
[20:04] <Beldar> ddelrio1986, NOt safe meaning relying on the windows recovery, with no back up of it and it's OS.
[20:04] <darkelfjuggalo> if I can't log in via terminal what alternative do i have?
[20:05] <Beldar> darkelfjuggalo, Were you using a proprietary graphic driver?
[20:05] <Jordan_U> darkelfjuggalo: What do you mean by "after dist upgrade"?
[20:05] <Slart> darkelfjuggalo: uhm.. well.. that depends on why you can't login from a terminal.. if you've lost your password there are solutions to that.. if your keyboard is broken or not working it might be harder to fix
[20:06] <darkelfjuggalo> I'm not sure what driver... what ever came default in 13.04 and 13.10
[20:06] <darkelfjuggalo> the system reads my password but says failed to start session in the gui
[20:07] <Slart> darkelfjuggalo: does that happen when you try the ctrl+alt+f1 thing?
[20:08] <evilaliv3> Pici DJones  ?
[20:10] <matan_> i need some help with the ubuntu resolution, any one can epxlain how to change the resolution to 16:10? i cannot see the options in the display window.
[20:10] <OerHeks> evilaliv3, LVM is an option in the regular ubuntu 14.04 installer.
[20:10] <OerHeks> see step #4 >> http://www.computersnyou.com/3193/2014/04/install-ubuntu-14-04-desktop-encrypted-lvm/
[20:12] <kingbeowolf> i upgraded to ubuntu 14.04 but i dont have the black theme and new icons
[20:12] <kingbeowolf> do those come with 14.04?
[20:14] <xangua> kingbeowolf: the theme is called Ambiance
[20:15] <kingbeowolf> oh because everyone i see that talks about it has some black new look
[20:15] <Jordan_U> matan_: What graphics card are you using? ( "lspci | grep VGA" should tell you).
[20:17] <matan_> GeForce GTS 450
[20:17] <matan_> i have the drivers i checked
[20:18] <evilaliv3> thanks OerHeks
[20:18] <Jordan_U> matan_: Please pastebin the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log .
[20:18] <matan_> kk just a min
[20:20] <matan_> i cannot find xorg.log
[20:21] <mrIcarus> I made a change to the programmer dvorak keyboard layout by modifying the keyboard file.  The change works at login screen, and shows correctly in the generated keyboard layout chart, but does not work on the desktop or any open applications.  Instead, the old version of the keyboard layout is used. Does anyone know why the change didn't propagate completely?
[20:21] <daninoz> hi guys, I have ubuntu 13.10 and I'm going to update to 14.04. Should I do something before that? My only worry is that I have propietary AMD drivers installed.
[20:21] <kostkon> daninoz, backup your data
[20:21] <kostkon> daninoz, just in case
[20:22] <Jordan_U> matan_: How did you look?
[20:22] <matan_> in the files, also tried "cat ../var/log/xorg.log"
[20:22] <matan_> in my boot directory
[20:23] <Jordan_U> matan_: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" , which is not related to your /boot/ directory in any way.
[20:24] <matan_> im lost, where do i find xlog.log?
[20:25] <matan_> xorg.log that is
[20:25] <Jordan_U> matan_: I just gave you the exact path, you have incorrectly repeated parts of the path multiple times. Copy and paste if needed to get the correct path.
[20:29] <matan_> here http://pastebin.com/w5bNewB8
[20:29] <matan_> its long
[20:32] <novasonic> hello
[20:33] <crocket> How do I use ibus on 14.04?
[20:33] <Jordan_U> matan_: Please pastebin the output of "glxinfo" (you may need to install mesa-utils or similar first, if so a message explaining how to do so will be printed).
[20:33] <crocket> ibus is runnig but not available.
[20:33] <crocket> ibus
[20:33] <novasonic> crocket: try sudo modprobe ibnus
[20:33] <matan_> is that a file?
[20:34] <delt> Hello
[20:34] <crocket> novasonic, There is no module called ibnus.
[20:34] <matan_> nvm i figureditout
[20:34] <delt> text becomes all blurry in unity. it gets readable when i hover my mouse over it, but then fades out again.... might be related to nividia driver?
[20:34] <novasonic> crocket: ibus
[20:34] <crocket> novasonic, ibus is not a kernel module.
[20:35] <novasonic> crocket: is ibus running now?
[20:35] <delt> only the icons on the left stay readable. everything else on the screen becomes blurry and fuzzy
[20:36] <neno_> hi
[20:36] <novasonic> delt: do you use external display? if so what type of display is it(vga, hdmi)?
[20:36] <delt> novasonic: vga at its native resolution 1920x1080
[20:37] <delt> novasonic: text becomes readable when i hover the mouse over it, but then becomes blurry again
[20:37] <aubreyja> Can someone tell me when uname will give different answers to uname -p and uname -m?
[20:37] <delt> works fine in xfce
[20:37] <trism> crocket: which desktop?
[20:37] <alexfpms> hi, I installed the nvidia-337-dev from xorg-edgers but i can't find any GL headers. How can i get them? thanks
[20:37] <neno_> cannot make o2 integrated controller to work .... dmesg says hunderds of lines : mmc0: Timeout waiting for hardware interrupt.
[20:37] <neno_>  .... using ubuntu studio 14.04 with 3.13.0-24-lowlatency #46-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT
[20:37] <iDevelop> Guys, could I get some ideas?
[20:38] <delt> novasonic: i installed ubuntu-desktop (unity) in ubuntu studio, which uses xfce by default
[20:38] <novasonic> delt: I haven't seen that problem before, have you checked forums?
[20:38] <guntbert> iDevelop: about what? this is the Ubuntu support channel
[20:38] <iDevelop> guntbert: I need some ideas for open source products
[20:38] <matan_> i cannot select teh all outpt in the terminal.. is there a wey to directly save the output into a txt file?
[20:38] <delt> novasonic: google search results aren't being much help so far...
[20:39] <guntbert> iDevelop: you can try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:39] <delt> novasonic: it's like the rendering is trying to scale stuff in a weird way..;.
[20:39] <Pici> matan_: you can pipe the data directly to pastebinit, which will give you a link.  e.g.: glxinfo | pastebinit
[20:39] <guntbert> !pastebinit | matan_
[20:39] <iDevelop> guntbert: Thanks
[20:39] <OerHeks> aubreyja, 'man uname' answers that >   -m, --machine  -p, --processor
[20:40] <novasonic> delt: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:41] <aubreyja> Thanks OerHeks - I get x86_64 on all my vms for both - will they ever be different? They seem to both refer to 'architecture' (broadly) but I don't understand the difference between the two.
[20:41] <novasonic> delt: you need to find out what causes the problem first
[20:41] <delt> novasonic: http://www.deimos.ca/miscjunk/Xorg.0.log.txt
[20:41] <novasonic> novasonic: http://www.deimos.ca/miscjunk/Xorg.0.log.txt
[20:41] <jotaxpe> hola, alguien sabe como puedo actualizar al ubuntu 14.04 desde ubuntu 12.04, sin instalar las versiones intermedias?
[20:41] <delt> no espanyolo en los channelo
[20:42] <delt> :)
[20:42] <guntbert> !es | jotaxpe
[20:42] <novasonic> delt: let me check it out
[20:42] <matan_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7302186/
[20:42] <delt> novasonic: my Xorg is working fine, all other desktop environments are appearing ok
[20:42] <matan_> very usfule :)
[20:42] <crocket> I removed ibus and reinstalled it and logged in again, and unity is missing.
[20:43] <crocket> I can't see unity panel.
[20:43] <crocket> I can't see window manager.
[20:43] <crocket> I only see desktop wallpaper.
[20:43] <darius93> anyone here know why I can overclock in Windows for my AMD CPU but not in linux when i use aticonfig?
[20:43] <armin> the fuck
[20:44] <genii> armin: Please try to keep this channel family-friendly by not swearing
[20:44] <Tuxy-J> anyone using xubunt desktop for RDP?
[20:44] <Beldar> !ask > Tuxy-J
[20:44] <crocket> After removing ibus, unity is gone.
[20:45] <crocket> How can I revive unity on 14.04?
[20:45] <matan_> in case you lost the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/7302186/
[20:45] <crocket> anyone?
[20:46] <trism> crocket: look at /var/log/apt/history.log and see what else got removed when removing ibus, then reinstall them
[20:46] <trism> crocket: I'm seeing at least unity-control-center going
[20:47] <novasonic> delt: it says that your display doesn't support 3d at the end of log
[20:47] <Jordan_U> matan_: You're not using the proprietary Nvidia driver, you're using nouveau.
[20:47] <delt> novasonic: wuh? i can run 3d games (quake4 etc..)
[20:48] <delt> and they work fine, very nice frame rate with this vid card in fact =)
[20:48] <Jordan_U> matan_: Using the proprietary driver, which you can install/enable via the "Additional Drivers" tool in Software Center, may get you native resolutions.
[20:48] <trism> crocket: also if you missed the changes in 13.10 you now configure ibus in System Settings/Text Entry instead of ibus-setup
[20:48] <crocket> trism : I can't install ubuntu-control-center-signon.
[20:48] <matan_> i am trying to re-apply the drivers as we speak
[20:48] <trism> crocket: why not?
[20:49] <crocket> trism : It has no installation candidate.
[20:49] <armin> genii: i will try to replace every occurance of [censored] with [censored] in the future. sorry for that.
[20:50] <johnjohn101> what replaced the ia32-lib install?
[20:50] <genii> armin: Much appreciated
[20:50] <novasonic> delt: X -configure
[20:50] <trism> crocket: that's weird I definitely see it in the repos
[20:51] <armin> genii: also i'm going to have a look if there's an autoreplace script for irssi that will replace every occurance of [censored] with just f*ck.
[20:51] <trism> crocket: can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:51] <hatchetjack> how does one change em0 to eth0 in 14.04?
[20:51] <delt> novasonic: (EE) Server is already active for display 0
[20:51] <crocket> trism : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7302248
[20:51] <delt> so :1 ?
[20:52] <ki7rw> looks like i'll have to a fresh install on one box - failed upgrade to 14.04
[20:52] <matan_> meybe i sholde try and restart? i applyed the binary v 331.38 propritery,tested driver and i still cannot see the 16:10 oprions in the display menu
[20:52] <novasonic> delt: enter runlevel 3 then type X -configure
[20:52] <genii> armin: You might run into issues with that, moderators also usually do not allow swearing even when it's obfuscated a bit... but maybe use some other word for replacement instead :)
[20:52] <armin> hatchetjack: you could try udev-rules.
[20:52] <trism> crocket: ahh maybe a bad mirror, might try switching to one of the archive.ubuntu.com mirrors briefly
[20:52] <Jordan_U> matan_: How did you "apply the binary v 331.38"?
[20:53] <crocket> trism : ok
[20:53] <armin> genii: hm. so people get kicked for using abbreviations like "wtf"? or is that okay just because it's so common today?
[20:53] <delt> novasonic: what would that do?
[20:53] <matan_> i marke the driver and hit apply changes
[20:53] <delt> create a default xorg.conf?
[20:53] <matan_> in the additional drivers tab
[20:54] <novasonic> delt: no, it will create a temporary config named xorg.config.new in your /root
[20:54] <genii> armin: It's usually up to the individual moderator. It varies. But yes, people have been kicked for that, but usually only when they keep doing it after warnings, etc
[20:55] <armin> genii: so i'm in a linux-channel where i actually am trying to help people, willing to help people, that kicks people for using the phrase "wtf"?
[20:55] <Jordan_U> armin: Please avoid abbreviations as well. I imagine that if you were at a physical family friendly event, or in a formal work environment, you could communicate forming perfectly useful sentences without swearing or "censoring" words.
[20:55] <hatchetjack> armin: alrighty, here's where I'm at.  /etc/udev/rules.d is empty and there is no 70-persistent-net.rules file in /lib/udev/rules.d so where I'd normally have this resolved by now I ain't sure where to look.
[20:55] <crocket> Damn
[20:55] <CaptainKnots> How do I stop unity from duplicating the top system tray and power button across all my monitors?
[20:55] <genii> armin: As you can see, it offends some people but not necessarily others.
[20:55] <hatchetjack> armin: there is a 75-persistent-net-generator.rules which perplexes me though
[20:55] <armin> Jordan_U: well i avoid family events. consider me socially distorted.
[20:55] <Beldar> armin, This is a worldwide channel, crossing cultural, social and ethnic lines, have some respect for all is what bis asked. ;)
[20:55] <delt> novasonic: Your xorg.conf file is /home/user/xorg.conf.new
[20:55] <Beldar> is*
[20:56] <forgottenone> hi do you suggest deadline or noop and which kernel for ssd
[20:56] <Jordan_U> armin: If you'd like to continue discussing the channel's policies and why we have them please do so in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-ops to avoid cluttering the support channel.
[20:56] <armin> hm. my apologies, but i'm not willing to help people here anymore if i'm not allowed to express my overall wtf brain-state by using the letters wtf. :)
[20:56] <novasonic> delt: X -config /home/usr/xorg.conf.new
[20:56] <armin> also, there's way too much policy stuff going on here. really.
[20:57] <hatchetjack> armin: it's called regulation
[20:57] <delt> novasonic: ok, i have a bare bones X server with no window manager
[20:57] <armin> but yes, social parts already were in my list of reasons for choosing different distros from ubuntu, which is sad since i mostly like the distro.
[20:57] <delt> novasonic: seems to be using the fb console
[20:57] <armin> anyways... :)
[20:57] <Beldar> armin, plenty of help here, no one person really matters.
[20:58] <novasonic> delt: ok, is there any error messages?
[20:59] <delt> novasonic: nope not that i can see
[20:59] <novasonic> delt: backup your old config, move your new config to its directory change its name
[20:59] <delt> from the term where i started it from?
[21:00] <delt> novasonic: this new X server doesn't have opengl enabled, which will make some things very very slow, and others won't run :/
[21:00] <novasonic> delt: experiment it with unity
[21:01] <crocket> trism : I installed deleted packages, but unity panel is still missing.
[21:01] <crocket> hell
[21:01] <delt> nova: okie... will be away from this term window for a few min. thanks for your help
[21:01] <delt> bbl
[21:01] <Kangarooo> for server i did from 12.04 upgrade to 14.04 but in one place i pressed D to see difference between config file of something.. then i didnt know how to exit that diff so i pressed ctrl+x and that exited upgrade.. now server is broken. how to remake all to reinstall or recondfigure or recheck all?
[21:02] <matan> i restarted my ubuntu, i got a 16:9 1360 x 768 resulotion and no more, any ideas?
[21:02] <Jordan_U> Kangarooo: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:02] <trism> crocket: can you check out the logs in ~/.cache/upstart/, maybe you'll see some error
[21:03] <Kangarooo> Jordan_U: no thats not doing anything
[21:03] <matan_> sorry.
[21:03] <novasonic> matan: type xrandr in console
[21:03] <Jordan_U> matan: Please pastebin your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log (which will be a new file, not the same as what you've already posted).
[21:03] <MadLamb> Jordan_U, sorry man, i had to leave that time. I'm still with that "text" issue. I removed it from my grub file and ran the update, however it is still in cmdline
[21:03] <novasonic> matan: then xrandr --output (yourdisplay) --mode (preferred resolution)
[21:04] <Jordan_U> MadLamb: /proc/cmdline just tells you what kernel parameters were passed to the kernel when you booted.
[21:04] <Kangarooo> in my server all seems to work except apache cant start. i also did test upgrade in test server backup and finishing all and all works. its just interesting is it possible to remake all upgrade from start or where i quit it..
[21:04] <MadLamb> Jordan_U, ahh, so i must reboot
[21:04] <Jordan_U> MadLamb: Correct.
[21:04] <MadLamb> Jordan_U, thanks
[21:04] <trism> crocket: spectifically the unity-panel-service one but the gnome-session ones or settings-daemon ones could be interesting as well
[21:04] <Jordan_U> MadLamb: You're welcome.
[21:04] <matan_> novasonic: what do you mean by youdisplay?
[21:05] <Kangarooo> in test server upgrade i did just changing precise to trusty in sources file && update && upgrade
[21:05] <novasonic> matan: what did plain xrandr command out in console?
[21:05] <delt> novasonic: if opengl is causing this, maybe changing the anti-aliasing settings would fix the problem?
[21:05] <CaptainKnots> How do I stop unity from duplicating the top system tray and power button across all my monitors?
[21:05] <matan_> i did not do that yet
[21:05] <matan_> i asked befor i typed :)
[21:06] <crocket> trism : man
[21:06] <matan_> i have a xorg.0.log and a xorg.0.log.old sholdei link both?
[21:06] <novasonic> delt: yep
[21:06] <crocket> trism : gnome-session-unity.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/7302332
[21:07] <novasonic> matan_: did you type xrandr in terminal?
[21:07] <matan_> yes
[21:07] <Lannister69> after adding a repository for installing a software to /etc/apt/sources.list I sudo apt-get update and get this result W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3EE66BD3F599ACE3
[21:08] <matan_> xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/tZVwzc1G
[21:08] <Lannister69> how do I solve this problem??
[21:08] <TeraJL> hi there, i saw a tutorial that i need to change Hardware acceleration settings, as in this picture: http://altoptions.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/wine_config.jpg , but i only get htis options http://i.stack.imgur.com/3tEKV.png , how can i do it?
[21:09] <novasonic> matan_: it should have listed your displays like this: LVDS0, VGA0, HDMI0
[21:09] <matan_> i cannot open a xorg.0.log.old, it requires me to search for a application to display it
[21:09] <matan_> it did
[21:09] <Lannister69> apt-get update tells me that I  don't have public key for a software repo. what should be done to solve it?
[21:09] <matan_> VGA-0
[21:09] <Kangarooo> Lannister69: http://askubuntu.com/questions/20725/gpg-error-the-following-signatures-couldnt-be-verified-because-the-public-key
[21:09] <OerHeks> Lannister69, add-apt-repository is easier
[21:09] <novasonic> matan_: try xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode (resolution)
[21:10] <novasonic> matan_: for example 1280x1024
[21:10] <matan_> ok
[21:10] <OerHeks> Lannister69, it will make an entry under /etc/apt/sources.listd and fetches the key
[21:11] <ortix> i'm trying to test if my router is blocking port 25 or if its my isp
[21:11] <matan_> cannot find mod
[21:11] <ortix> i ran tcptraceroute and it gets to my router
[21:11] <novasonic> matan_: which mod?
[21:11] <ortix> and then times out
[21:11] <ortix> 1  192.168.1.1  0.489 ms  0.345 ms  0.336 ms
[21:11] <ortix> does that mean it went through my router or got stuck there?
[21:11] <matan_> i tryed 1600x900, 1600x1200, 1600x1024
[21:11] <Lannister69> how do I remove a key??
[21:12] <Lannister69> OerHeks: How do I remove a key???
[21:12] <novasonic> matan_: you need to type only one of them
[21:12] <OerHeks> Lannister69, you don't have the key, that is your error.
[21:12] <matan_> i did, one at a time
[21:12] <matan_> all could not find mod
[21:12] <novasonic> matan_: which mod?
[21:12] <hatchetjack> so it bothers no one that eth0 and eth1 are some weird names now like p9p1 etc.....?
[21:13] <OerHeks> Lannister69, delete that ppa entry, and use add-apt-repository
[21:13] <Lannister69> OerHeks: ok but I just tried to add it and in the process I also added another key
[21:13] <matan_> all of the ones listed above
[21:13] <TeraJL> on a forum(arch linux) i found that to fix a sound problem on wine for lol: "If you have no sound make sure alsa-lib is installed inside your chroot.", how can i do this for ubuntu
[21:13] <crocket> Damn
[21:13] <matan_> output:"xrandr: cannot find mode 1600x1050
[21:14] <matan_> may i point that the resulotion 1600x900 is not listed when i tyep xrandr?
[21:14] <OerHeks> Lannister69, if you added the correct "another key" they you should be fine
[21:14] <Jordan_U> hatchetjack: I would much rather than my interfaces always have the same long crazy name, than unpredictable simple ones. The goal of the change in naming is to guarantee that a given interface name will always map to the same NIC. If you thought you had that guarantee before, you either only had one NIC or were blissfully unaware / lucky.
[21:15] <trism> crocket: I think those are probably okay, unless that is all you get, I have a ton of atk errors myself
[21:15] <novasonic> matan_: xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1600x1024
[21:15] <matan_> the outpot of xrandr http://paste.ubuntu.com/7302374/
[21:16] <novasonic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7302374/
[21:16] <matan_> xrandr: cannot find mode 1600x1024
[21:17] <Jordan_U> matan_: Is this really a CRT?
[21:17] <crocket> trism : window manager and unity panel are missing.
[21:17] <crocket> How can I revive them?
[21:17] <matan_> CRT?
[21:17] <novasonic> matan_: sorry but i didn't understand your problem
[21:17] <kostkon> matan_, what's the monitor's native res
[21:17] <Jordan_U> matan_: Cathode Ray Tube, big bulky electron flinging machine :) (not LCD or other thin screen).
[21:17] <novasonic> matan_: are you trying to change your screen resolution?
[21:18] <crocket> trism : http://askubuntu.com/questions/204428/unity-missing-cant-see-top-or-side-panels revived unity.
[21:18] <crocket> hmm
[21:18] <matan_> ok, my monitor/screen can display up to 1600x1050, the ubuntu displey screen(wher you change resolution) dose not display any displey mods for 16:10. THat is my problem :)
[21:18] <crocket> How can I use ibus on 14.04?
[21:18] <crocket> anyone?
[21:18] <Artemis3> matan, mine is 1680x1050 you are missing that 8
[21:19] <matan_> i am trying to get my ubuntu to displey in 1600x600
[21:19] <matan_> i am trying to get my ubuntu to displey in 1600x900*
[21:19] <trism> crocket: so unity is fixed?
[21:19] <Jordan_U> matan_: Is this really a CRT?
[21:19] <matan_> what is a CRT?
[21:19] <trism> crocket: for ibus, configure it in System Settings/Text Entry
[21:19] <Jordan_U> matan_: Cathode Ray Tube, big bulky electron flinging machine :) (not LCD or other thin screen).
[21:19] <novasonic> matan_: cathode ray tube
[21:19] <Artemis3> matan, doesn't know what crt is, doubt he has one
[21:19] <matan_> its  LCD....
[21:19] <matan_> well..
[21:20] <matan_> its capable of 1600x900
[21:20] <Jordan_U> matan_: OK, good. That means that we don't need to worry about damaging the hardware if we make a mistake adding a new mode.
[21:20] <matan_> its not the big box of old...
[21:20] <minimec> matan_: You can try to add a display mode and hope that the driver can handle it. See here... http://www.arunviswanathan.com/node/53
[21:20] <Artemis3> matan_, tell brand name and model number
[21:20] <matan_> where do i find thouse artmis
[21:20] <matan_> ?
[21:20] <minimec> matan_: I have to do this for an USB Monitor. It works for me...
[21:21] <Artemis3> matan, in the back usually, sometimes in the front
[21:21] <crocket> trism : I don't like text entry because language switching is very slow with it.
[21:21] <Artemis3> matan_,
[21:21] <matan_> yes its a LCD
[21:21] <Artemis3> matan_, sticker with model name etc
[21:21] <crocket> trism : However, it is very fast on 14.04.
[21:21] <matan_> will be funny to ditroy a box-monitor by chancgin resolution.. xD
[21:22] <novasonic> matan_: lol
[21:22] <matan_> its long...
[21:22] <matan_> :P
[21:22] <Artemis3> matan_, you can't do that anymore, but there were some old that could
[21:22] <matan_> any wey to see in the ubuntu intrefdace?
[21:22] <matan_> oh.. to bad
[21:22] <matan_> would be a good prank :P
[21:22] <ineedgcc> hi, is there GCC 4.9  download link?
[21:23] <novasonic> ineedgcc: source or binary form?
[21:24] <matan_> OH SHIT.... i clicked detect displays and ...the gopd of linux was kind and answerd my prayer!
[21:24] <matan_> IM A BELIVER!
[21:24] <ineedgcc> novasonic, all :)
[21:24] <Jordan_U> ineedgcc: What version of Ubuntu are you using? Why do you specifically want GCC 4.9 (You don't generally "download" software for Ubuntu, you generally use the package manager which will do the downloading and installing for you in one step.
[21:24] <kostkon> matan_, it was that simple after all
[21:24] <Artemis3> ok...
[21:24] <matan_> problem.. solved. ;)
[21:24] <matan_> it was all because i didnt rest my gift for the linux god...
[21:24] <Sivik> does anyone know why after I upgraded to 14.04, why php-fpm will not stop no matter if I kills the processes myself or do a /etc/init.d/php5-fpm stop as root
[21:24] <matan_> :P
[21:24] <kostkon> matan_, next!
[21:24] <Sivik> It was working fine before the upgrade
[21:24] <ineedgcc> Jordan_U, 14.04 , http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.9/changes.html
[21:25] <matan_> ok ill stop spamming
[21:25] <crocket> trism : Problems are fixed.
[21:26] <trism> crocket: excellent
[21:26] <novasonic> ineedgcc: gcc-4.9-base is available in ubuntu's apt repo
[21:26] <ineedgcc> novasonic, but no CMD for it :)
[21:27] <novasonic> ineedgcc: what do you mean by 'CMD'?
[21:27] <Jordan_U> ineedgcc: sudo apt-get install gcc-4.9
[21:28] <kostkon> !info gcc-4.9 trusty
[21:28] <ineedgcc> novasonic, terminal command, a binary in /usr/bin !
[21:28] <novasonic> ineedgcc: which gcc
[21:28] <trism> gcc-4.9 is only there for gccgo I believe
[21:28] <ineedgcc> novasonic, 4.9
[21:28] <novasonic> ineedgcc: does which gcc, give you output?
[21:29] <novasonic> ineedgcc: i mean $(which gcc)
[21:29] <ineedgcc> Jordan_U, is already the newest version. BUT how i can use it?
[21:29] <ineedgcc> novasonic, /usr/bin/gcc
[21:29] <novasonic> ineedgcc: gcc source_files -o program_name
[21:29] <yoshie> .
[21:30] <Jordan_U> ineedgcc: gcc-4.9 hello.c -o hello
[21:30] <CaptainKnots> How do I stop unity from duplicating the top system tray and power button across all my monitors?
[21:30] <ineedgcc> Jordan_U, gcc --version = gcc (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) 4.8.2
[21:30] <ineedgcc> Jordan_U, i say i need gcc 4.9
[21:30] <Jordan_U> ineedgcc: The '-4.9' is only needed if you have multiple versions of gcc installed, and /usr/bin/gcc isn't a symlink to -4.9.
[21:30] <yoshie> Ubuntu 14.04 slow wifi speeds, Anyone got suggestions?
[21:31] <Jordan_U> ineedgcc: Did you see the command I gave you?
[21:31] <kostkon> !info gcc-snapshot trusty
[21:31] <ineedgcc> novasonic, gcc --version = gcc (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) 4.8.2
[21:31] <ineedgcc> Jordan_U, gcc source_files -o program_name ???
[21:31] <kostkon> ineedgcc, that will probably give you gcc4-9 http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/i386/gcc-snapshot/filelist
[21:31] <novasonic> ineedgcc: ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-4.9 /usr/bin/gcc
[21:31] <Jordan_U> ineedgcc: That is not the command I gave.
[21:31] <Jordan_U> ineedgcc: gcc-4.9 hello.c -o hello
[21:32] <ineedgcc> Jordan_U, thank :) it is in gccgo-4.9
[21:33] <novasonic> ineedgcc: gccgo is not a c compiler
[21:33] <matan_> i am trying to dowbnload a adobe flash because youtube said so, http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ i choose the APT for ubunto 10.04+ and i asks me to choose a application to open the thing... im confuesed
[21:33] <ineedgcc> novasonic, oh! for go :/
[21:34] <ineedgcc> Jordan_U, The program 'gcc-4.9' can be found in the following packages:  gccgo-4.9 hardening-wrapper
[21:34] <novasonic> ineedgcc: isn't it what you wanted?
[21:34] <yoshie> Ubuntu 14.04 slow wifi speeds, Anyone got suggestions?   http://askubuntu.com/questions/451178/wifi-led-continuously-blinking-ubuntu-14-04-and-slowed-connection/452409#452409
[21:34] <Jordan_U> ineedgcc: Note that there are two people talking to you, me and novasonic :)
[21:34] <ineedgcc> novasonic, i need gcc for C and C++,
[21:34] <jubo2> Big thanks for the awesome work on FLOSS
[21:34] <kostkon> matan_, install it from the software centre
[21:35] <matan_> i will try that
[21:35] <novasonic> ineedgcc:  apt-get install gcc-4.9 gcc-g++-4.9
[21:35] <CaptainKnots> How do I stop unity from duplicating the top system tray and power button across all my monitors?
[21:35] <jubo2> Free software means coding the wheel over and over again but that's ait
[21:35] <jubo2> You get fancy wheels
[21:35] <ineedgcc> novasonic, E: Unable to locate package
[21:35] <jubo2> I love KDE
[21:35] <Jordan_U> !ot | jubo2
[21:36] <jubo2> never been to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:36] <novasonic> ineedgcc:  apt-get install gcc
[21:36] <jubo2> am furniture in #debian-offtopic
[21:36] <ineedgcc> novasonic, gcc is already the newest version.
[21:36] <jubo2> I'ma join now ( SPOILERRR!!!! )
[21:37] <novasonic> ineedgcc: then you have you find third-party builds somewhere in internet or built it yourself from the source
[21:38] <ineedgcc> novasonic, so why i am in #ubuntu ? :) i did not find a link
[21:38] <novasonic> ineedgcc: compile gcc 4.9 with 4.8 then compile 4.9 with 4.9 so you have 4.9 compiled with 4.9 :))))))
[21:38] <ineedgcc> novasonic, thats what am will do, but i need a gcc 4.9 link
[21:39] <jhutchins> !flash > matan_
[21:39] <Jordan_U> novasonic: ineedgcc: As I said a while ago, "sudo apt-get install gcc-4.9" will get you gcc 4.9 in Ubuntu 14.04. No need to compile gcc.
[21:39] <novasonic> ineedgcc: gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.9
[21:40] <ineedgcc> Jordan_U, gcc-4.9-base is already the newest version. , and the gcc is 4.8 !!!
[21:40] <novasonic> ineedgcc: apt-get update
[21:40] <trism> Jordan_U: gcc-4.9-base in trusty is part of the gccgo package, the rest of the toolchain isn't there
[21:40] <matan_> now i need to knwo how i see a private message
[21:41] <ineedgcc> novasonic, i do that from a 5mn
[21:41] <yoshie> can anyone see my chat?
[21:41] <mheinke> matan_, google
[21:41] <Jordan_U> trism: Ahh, thank you. Sorry for missing that earlier.
[21:41] <matan_> fine... :)
[21:42] <kostkon> yoshie, we can see you
[21:42] <mheinke> yoshie, no
[21:42] <minimec> matan_: Should be a new window or tab in the chat software. What you need to do for flash is to install flashplugin-installer. It will download things from the adobe server and install flash for you.
[21:42] <novasonic> matan_: flashplugin-installer is outdated and buggy
[21:43] <ineedgcc> ubottu, is gcc-snapshot GCC-4.9? :)
[21:43] <novasonic> matan_: chrome has built-in pepperflash
[21:43] <ineedgcc> OMG
[21:44] <novasonic> ineedgcc: gcc-snapshot is the latest build i guess
[21:44] <ineedgcc> novasonic, a bot show me that xD
[21:44] <novasonic> ineedgcc: xD
[21:44] <jhutchins> matan_: Should be a seperate tab in your client.
[21:45] <ineedgcc> thanks novasonic Jordan_U :)
[21:47] <ice9> I need to install an old version of library that isn't existing in the current repo, how do I do that?
[21:47] <Agwatic> should I take a copy from the home directory while upgrading to 14.04 ?
[21:48] <Beldar> Agwatic, Upgrading form what release? Should you be backed up yes.
[21:48] <Agwatic> Beldar 12.04
[21:49] <kostkon> Agwatic, backup your data just in case
[21:49] <novasonic> what are the dependencies of xorg?
[21:49] <Beldar> Agwatic, The lts to lts is july 24th, I would wait.
[21:49] <acovrig> I am trying to get samba4 to work as an AD DC in Ubuntu 13.04, I apt-get install samba4{,-clients} and when trying to run smbclient4 -L localhost -U% I get 'Failed to connect to ncacn_np:localhost - NT_STATUS_NO_MEMORY' why?
[21:49] <Agwatic> Beldar the issue is the home directory is 100 GB , so the backup process would be extremely difficult
[21:50] <Bashing-om> novasonic: Terminal command -> apt-cache depends xorg <- .
[21:50] <Beldar> Agwatic, Your problem not mine, my end advice is cover your booty.
[21:50] <phao> Hi. Back in windows, I had energy consumption profiles. Stuff like "energy saving", "balanced", "dell custom profile", "high performance", etc. Any way I can create such things here in ubuntu?
[21:51] <novasonic> Bashing-om, I am not using ubuntu atm
[21:51] <Beldar> Agwatic, No backup, and a pre-official upgrade, is not a wise path.
[21:51] <yoshie> Ubuntu 14.04 slow wifi speeds, Anyone got suggestions?
[21:52] <matan_> transmition
[21:52] <Agwatic> Beldar so I have to wait , but no backup also ?
[21:52] <ART007> Hello. May I please ask a quick question: How do I bookmark a folder in Nautilus. There is a bookmark menu but it will only let me edit existing BMs.
[21:52] <Bashing-om> novasonic: (??) What can I say ? We are not  suppoting else on this channel.
[21:52] <Beldar> Agwatic, " but no backup also ?" this means?
[21:53] <Bashing-om> supporting*
[21:53] <mheinke> im loving 14.04..just wanna point that out
[21:53] <mheinke> 14.04++
[21:53] <Agwatic> Beldar I can wait until july 24th , and also I have to backup the home directory ?
[21:53] <novasonic> Bashing-om: thanks anyway
[21:53] <Beldar> !details > yoshie
[21:53] <Jonii> Hello. For some reason 3 and 4 finger finger gestures got disabled for my Ubuntu 12.4
[21:54] <Jonii> I have no idea what could have caused it. I didn't install or remove anything related to this, nor did I change any related settings
[21:54] <Beldar> Agwatic, You only have to do what you want to be sure you have all your bases covered. My bias in this area, is clones of my install, and homes backed up to an external.
[21:54] <Jonii> Any idea what I could do to get those back working?
[21:54] <novasonic> ubottu, is there anyway to resolve dependencies of xorg without apt?
[21:55] <Agwatic> Beldar ok , thanks alot
[21:55] <Beldar> Agwatic, No prob, hope it all goes well.
[21:55] <OerHeks> novasonic, why do you need that list for ?
[21:56] <Bashing-om> novasonic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7302637/ <- mu putput 13.10 for xorg.
[21:56] <acovrig_> My client crashed, did anyone reply to my issues with samab4?
[21:57] <minimec> novasonic: for xorg dependencies -> http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/xserver-xorg
[21:57] <Beldar> !13.04 | acovrig_
[21:57] <OerHeks> minimec +1
[21:57] <Beldar> acovrig_, 13.04 is not supported it is end of life.
[21:58] <jhutchins> acovrig_: If you increase the level of logging for the samba server, be sure to decrease it when you're done debugging, it can be a major performance hit.  I would turn up the detail and thrash the samba docs on their site.  I have done samba as DC, but not with AD.
[21:59] <novasonic> Bashing-om minimec thank u
[21:59] <Bashing-om> novasonic: We try.
[22:00] <yoshie> Ubuntu 14.04 slow wifi speeds, Anyone got suggestions? Details  <     http://pastebin.com/yBe3Nvhv     >
[22:02] <inawarminister> Hi all
[22:02] <novasonic> hi
[22:02] <inawarminister> Thanks to the people that have been helping me install ubuntu yesterday
[22:03] <inawarminister> (shame I didn't record their name, sorry.)
[22:04] <reazem> Hi! Anyone knows why my virsh pool-create wont last after restart of the service?
[22:06] <Linuxator> when i run'sudo apt-get update'i get'root@ali-Inspiron-1545:~# apt-get update  Get:1 http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty InRelease [213 B]                         95% [1 InRelease gpgv 213 B] [Connecting to extras.ubuntu.com (91.189.92.152)] Splitting up /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_InRIgn http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty InRelease                                   E: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com trus
[22:06] <Linuxator> ty InRelease: Clearsigned file 'how to fix this?
[22:07] <k1l_> !paste | Linuxator
[22:10] <inawarminister> hi, how do I change DNS IP again? /etc/resolv.conf isn't recommended, right?
[22:10] <inawarminister> hi EpicCyndaquil!
[22:10] <EpicCyndaquil> hey inawarminister!
[22:10] <EpicCyndaquil> Did you get Xubuntu installed okay?
[22:11] <inawarminister> Yeah, all werks
[22:11] <inawarminister> It just werks (TM)
[22:12] <inawarminister> Now I just need to try installing Pantheon... Afraid of the in-dev ppa though :^) (but seriously, Pantheon looks awesome!)
[22:12] <Logan_> reazem: you might want to try irc://irc.oftc.net/#virt
[22:12] <BetaSoul> Any one got any expereince setting up ubuntu on a lenovo u430p? Its bootings as EFI from usb. Doesn't detect windows.
[22:13] <EpicCyndaquil> interesting, inawarminister. If I had known that was your end goal, I would have suggested an installation of Ubuntu mini
[22:13] <Beldar> BetaSoul, You had a look at the UEFI wiki?
[22:13] <BetaSoul> Link? I may have. Its been a long ass day.
[22:13] <Beldar> !uefi | BetaSoul
[22:14] <inawarminister> EpicCyndaquil: naaaah, Pantheon is still unstable as shit for >12.10, I need XFCE for daily driver
[22:14] <reazem> Logan_: Thanks
[22:15] <BetaSoul> Beldar: I know what UEFI is, the currently box I'm on boots with it. I'm just tryig ot get the specific instance of uefi working. For some reason I won't detect the windows install that came with it.
[22:15] <ART007> BetaSoul: UEFI works now. It was a little chaotic a few months back, but it's fine now so long as you have a newer machine. Some early UEFI firmware was buggy.
[22:15] <inawarminister> EpicCyndaquil: at least that's what everyone tells me? Anyway, would be much better than staying in 12.04 Luna with all those outdated ppa...
[22:15] <BetaSoul> ART007: Hrm. Then why isn't it seeing the windows partition is the real question.
[22:15] <EpicCyndaquil> inawarminister: I only learned about that desktop environment a week ago, so I don't know what to tell you :)
[22:16] <sigint88> how is Trusty treating everyone?
[22:16] <BetaSoul> AHA! Damn unclean windows shutdown.
[22:17] <inawarminister> EpicCyndaquil: yeah, was using elementary OS (Ubuntu 12.04) for a few weeks already before my Arch/Manjaro episode, that's why I returned back to Linux after spending time being frustated by win7 :^)
[22:17] <ART007> BetaSoul: Did you read the last link in the article Beldar sent you? It covers the specific case of installing on a UEFI machine with WIndows preloaded. http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-supported
[22:18] <ART007> BetaSoul: Ah you fixed it. That weird suspend that Windows 8 does. That is indeed mentioned in the guide linked! :-)
[22:19] <BetaSoul> Yep. I was just asking incase there was anything hinky going on.
[22:19] <Beldar> BetaSoul, Cool, enjoy.
[22:20] <ART007> I don't get why people react badly to having the bot link guides.
[22:23] <pato> alguien?
[22:23] <Beldar> what one has tried so far is not often included in asking for help, you have to phish for this
[22:24] <k1l_> !sp | pato
[22:25] <mheinke> really? 10.04 is still supported?
[22:25] <k1l_> !es | pato
[22:25] <mheinke> thats insanity
[22:25] <k1l_> mheinke: on the server
[22:25] <mheinke> i dont know who would be using ubuntu 10.04 server
[22:26] <mheinke> i guess maybe for native ultra custom business applications
[22:27] <k1l_> mheinke: well. a lot of business stuff is on very old installs and nobody wants to touch that as long as it works
[22:27] <mheinke> k1l_, yea ill never understand that...my company (1000+ employees) is on the bleeding edge.
[22:27] <acovrig> Now that I have switched clients... any ideas on getting samba4 working?
[22:28] <opus_> why is my nginx still version 1.4.7?
[22:28] <opus_> I tried apt-get update, it saids i'm at the latest version of nginx which isn't 1.4.7
[22:28] <mheinke> opus_, thats probably the latest in the repos.
[22:28] <mheinke> check for a PPA. or compile it yourself
[22:28] <opus_> but there is a security hole in that version
[22:29] <k1l_> !info nginx
[22:29] <k1l_> opus_: are you on a PPA anyway?
[22:29] <opus_> whats PPA?
[22:29] <k1l_> opus_: ubuntu doesnt update the version but patches the current version
[22:30] <opus_> oh ok thanks
[22:30] <opus_> have a nice day
[22:30] <k1l_> opus_: so security hole get closed but not with a new version number
[22:30] <BetaSoul> Hrm... still not listing the damn windows partition. I really don't want to have to set up grub by hand.
[22:31] <Beldar> BetaSoul, You have a unallocated space for ubuntu?
[22:31] <novasonic> !info xorg
[22:31] <BetaSoul> Beldar: Yep.
[22:31] <novasonic> !info getty-ps
[22:32] <novasonic> !info gettext
[22:32] <Beldar> BetaSoul, Do you have windows imaged/cloned off the drive and a recovery disc?
[22:32] <novasonic> !info coreutils
[22:32] <BetaSoul> I currently don't. Brandy new box. I may just hose it for now.
[22:33] <Mark-Shuttlewort> 0x71 (xc) Our Hacker Team Public Channel #0x71 and #0x71.org in irc.oftc.net, visit : http://0x71.org. Linux kernel is close source so Ubuntu is closed, all 0x71 is invited to Our channel, you all can use AstaraOS only 0x71.
[22:33] <Mark-Shuttlewort> 0x71 (xc) Our Hacker Team Public Channel #0x71 and #0x71.org in irc.oftc.net, visit : http://0x71.org. Linux kernel is close source so Ubuntu is closed, all 0x71 is invited to Our channel, you all can use AstaraOS only 0x71.
[22:34] <Beldar> BetaSoul, Take a look at this thread, this mod is on this stuff. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[22:34] <Busybyeski> howdy! when i open system settings i'm only getting 6 settings.  the only hardware icon that shows up is printers. any ideas how i can restore the setting menu?
[22:35] <Beldar> BetaSoul, You can hose the windows, however you still have a gpt-partition table which has it's own issues for installing.
[22:35] <minimec> novasonic: try '/msg ubottu !info coreutils'. Like that you get the answer of the bot in a separate window, and the channel here stais 'clean' for questions. It is nicer for you and for all of us... ;)
[22:35] <BetaSoul> Yeah. eh, another day. I'm fired. After resurecting a new server, and dealing with everything else, I'm shot.
[22:36] <BetaSoul> Maybe I can get the wireless drivers fixed on my deskotp.
[22:37] <linus> is there are way with the new 14.04 file manager to show the current folder stats at the bottom like in nautilus?
[22:37] <k1l_> linus: that is nautilus
[22:38] <linus> ok im an idiot then, it looks so different i thought is was something else, how come I lost that stat line then?
[22:38] <Busybyeski> as seen here, i'm missing most of the options in the control panel: https://i.imgur.com/kiwOJeb.png anyone seen this before?
[22:38] <linus> it used to show how many files and the size and available space
[22:39] <k1l_> linus: gnome (the maker of nautilus) removed a lot of features.
[22:39] <k1l_> Busybyeski: what did you do before that happend? is that the guest account?
[22:40] <Busybyeski> k1l_: this is not a guest account. the last experimental stuff i did was hook up an external monitor through the display settings, then upon unplugging the hdmi cable i couldn't get back into display settings
[22:41] <Busybyeski> i also notice the "unknown application name" in the title bar
[22:41] <k1l_> and ubuntu one
[22:42] <k1l_> run an "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" please
[22:42] <Busybyeski> one stayed with me through trusty but i think it's because i have xfce/xubuntu installed on the side
[22:42] <linus> @busybyeski i had missing applications in the system setting when i was using gnome-session and xubuntu-session
[22:42] <inawarminister> hi
[22:42] <Busybyeski> so is there a chance my xubuntu is still logged in?
[22:42] <linus> I have xfce installed now too, but when i log into ubunutu it is fine
[22:42] <inawarminister> what's the Xubuntu analogue of lightdm?
[22:42] <linus> no i dont think you are still logged in
[22:43] <daninoz> hey guys, I have my home folder on a different partition. What I'm going to lose if i just format the / partition?
[22:43] <inawarminister> I want to change the greeter-session= to pantheon-greeter
[22:43] <inawarminister> daninoz: apps, settings
[22:43] <Busybyeski> i've done so k1l_ , no change
[22:43] <pato> hi
[22:43] <inawarminister> hi pato
[22:43] <molinero> Hi to all
[22:43] <inawarminister> hi molinero
[22:44] <pato> spanish?
[22:44] <molinero> Hi pato
[22:44] <k1l_> !es | pato
[22:44] <aberrant> hi all
[22:44] <daninoz> inawarminister, ok, thanks.
[22:44] <aberrant> will it be possible to upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10 when it’s released?
[22:45] <k1l_> Busybyeski: then maybe its a mix with the xubuntu desktop. i dont know
[22:45] <k1l_> aberrant: of course
[22:45] <aberrant> k1l_: thanks
[22:45] <Busybyeski> k1l_: would a good next step be to apt-get remove the xubuntu and xfce environments/
[22:46] <inawarminister> nvm, found it: it's called lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf in xfce
[22:46] <aberrant> is there a way to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 without update-manager?
[22:46] <Guest66995> whats the syntax to join a server
[22:46] <k1l_> aberrant: do-release-upgrade is for CLI
[22:46] <aberrant> do-release-upgrade
[22:46] <aberrant> perfect.
[22:46] <aberrant> thanks again
[22:47] <k1l_> Busybyeski: i dont know. if you dont want xubuntu-desktop you could try to remove that
[22:48] <Busybyeski> how can i remove a package and all dependencies?
[22:50] <minimec> Busybyeski: I think 'sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove <package>'
[22:54] <Busybyeski> off to try things!
[22:55] <darkelfjuggalo> I was In earlier: I updated to ubuntu 14.04 when I login it tells me failed to start session;  I was told to login console and run 'uname -a' to get kernal version;  next message is the output for that
[22:57] <darkelfjuggalo> Linux ubuntu 3.13.0-24-generic #46-ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:11:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x85_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:58] <darkelfjuggalo> is this the information that was asked for
[22:59] <minimec> darkelfjuggalo: Do 'lsb_release -a' to get the ubuntu version you use.
[22:59] <Busybyeski> i guess i don't know how to even remove the xubuntu environment
[22:59] <darkangel> Is Apache2 broken in ubuntu 14.04 or something?
[23:00] <xangua> !broken | darkangel
[23:00] <minimec> darkelfjuggalo: I would add a new user for a test and login... If the desktop starts up correctly, your settings configuration of your mainuser may be 'borked' somehow...
[23:02] <darkangel> sudo restart apache2
[23:02] <darkangel> restart: Unknown job: apache2
[23:02] <jhutchins> darkangel: sudo service apache2 restart
[23:02] <darkangel> OMG thank u so much
[23:03] <darkelfjuggalo> http://pastebin.com/9ZpqHtzt
[23:03] <darkelfjuggalo> minimee I can't even guest login
[23:03] <jhutchins> darkangel: Can you log in at the console?
[23:03] <darkelfjuggalo> but my main account logs into console no problem
[23:03] <k1l_> !rootirc > Guest48813
[23:04] <darkangel> didnt know apache had a console
[23:05] <benny86> ciao a tutti
[23:05] <benny86> !list
[23:06] <minimec> darkelfjuggalo: Looks like upgrade went well. As I told you, I would add a new user and login a normal session. If the session is working for that user, but not for you mainuser, the session settings for the mainuser are somehow corrupted. We would then have to 'debug' that.
[23:06] <darkelfjuggalo> how do I make a new user?
[23:07] <minimec> darkelfjuggalo: 'sudo adduser newuser'
[23:08] <darkelfjuggalo> new unix password?
[23:08] <darkangel> go to System Settings -> user accounts -> then ull see a + sign under ur account name
[23:08] <minimec> darkelfjuggalo: replace 'newuser' with the name you want
[23:09] <darkelfjuggalo> made the name 'failed to start session' should I restart and try again?
[23:10] <Busybyeski> ok now i've rid myself of xubuntu and xfce but i'm still missing icons D:
[23:10] <john38> Jordan_U, hey are you there
[23:11] <minimec> darkelfjuggalo: first do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' to be sure that there are no updates. Maybe 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' to be sure, that all packages for unity are in place.
[23:13] <john38> Help i need help my system crashed and now says ...."Reboot and Select proper Boot Device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key...?/???
[23:13] <darkelfjuggalo> minimee failed to fetch all ubuntu-desktop packages
[23:15] <darkelfjuggalo> shit... my network requires authentication... I am at Starbucks... is there a way to authenticate from console?
[23:15] <minimec> darkelfjuggalo: Ok. we are getting closer... Do you get additional informations indicating which packages?
[23:15] <sakang> strange that 14.10 has no code name yet.  IIRC the next is usually named already even before prev release
[23:16] <aberrant> alright! that was painless
[23:16] <Cami> one think, in Ubunut 14.04LTS, i can not show preview picture in my jpg or png icons
[23:16] <sakang> do you have an image viewer?
[23:17] <john38> Help i need help my system crashed and now says ...."Reboot and Select proper Boot Device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key...?/???
[23:18] <minimec> darkelfjuggalo: That is quiet tricky, because that network is probalby 'wpa' protected. You would have to do a manual setup of wpa_supplicant. But don't hang me on that...
[23:18] <sakang> can only mean your boot disk is bad now.  might need a rescue disk/
[23:18] <john38> sakang, you talking to me
[23:18] <sakang> john38: yes
[23:18] <Cami> http://es.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rny2ow&s=8#.U1WnUt-7ybk
[23:18] <john38> sakang, so how do i create rescue disk
[23:19] <darkelfjuggalo> it is open I have a webpage gateway to go through
[23:19] <Cami> my icon i can't show preview picture
[23:20] <Beldar> john38, That error appears to be a hardware warning on reading the HD, do you have a live cd/usb?
[23:20] <john38> Beldar, yes
[23:20] <minimec> darkelfjuggalo: Do you have any fallback or flashback option in the graphical greeter, that would allow you to do a graphical login with something else than 'ubuntu'? You could then establish a connection and do the rest of the configuration with a graphical interface.
[23:21] <sakang> john38: you need to download a live ubuntu or any rescue iso and boot from there to see what happened to  your bad disk
[23:21] <john38> Beldar, i tried booting to livecd and choosing..."Try Ubuntu" but i could not access documents from crashed partition
[23:21] <minimec> darkelfjuggalo: I see...
[23:21] <Cami> Preview of my icons do not appear, attached picture: http://es.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rny2ow&s=8#.U1WnUt-7ybk
[23:21] <john38> sakang, is there a diffrence between livecd and rescue cd
[23:21] <Beldar> john38, Ah, were you able to open the partition?
[23:22] <sakang> john38: not really, but you can boot with them to check your bad sisk/system
[23:22] <sakang> disk*
[23:22] <john38> Beldar, no i went to home folder using the 12.04 livecd and could not see previous partition
[23:23] <Beldar> john38, You can run see the smart disc info on the live, and look in gparted to see if the HD or partition show at all.
[23:23] <john38> sakang, where do i find rescue disk and if i boot to rescue disk will it temporarly access crashed partition
[23:24] <sakang> john38: no guarrantee. if disk is bad, then it's bad
[23:24] <john38> Beldar, Ha i tried that too i opened GParted from livecd and it said no systems detected weird???
[23:24] <Guest43787> how do i run a .sh file?
[23:25] <john38> sakang, well its worth a try where do i download rescue cd i already have livecd
[23:25] <sakang> sh <sh.file>
[23:25] <Cami>  Preview of my icons do not appear, attached picture: http://es.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rny2ow&s=8#.U1WnUt-7ybk
[23:25] <Guest43787> sakand the read me files says "Linux/Unix users: use the ```start-pgmodeler.sh``` script. By default this script consider that pgModeler is installed on current working directory AKA ```pwd``` if you desire to set other location edit the script and change the PGMODELER_* environment variables."
[23:25] <sakang> john38: there is a distro called rescue which I think is debian based
[23:25] <Guest43787> i dont understand what it means
[23:26] <Beldar> john38, I don't think the HD is being read. On the live is the disks app it has a smartdisc read in a drop down top right corner
[23:26] <Guest43787> got it
[23:26] <sakang> john38: http://www.sysresccd.org/SystemRescueCd_Homepage, try this
[23:26] <hrvoje_> hello
[23:27] <Cami> hello??????????????
[23:27] <Cami>  Preview of my icons do not appear, attached picture: http://es.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rny2ow&s=8#.U1WnUt-7ybk
[23:28] <john38> Beldar, i mean i know the HD is not bad because i am able to boot to livecd
[23:28] <john38> sakang, ok thnks
[23:28] <Beldar> john38, LIve boot has nothing to do with HD, it would boot if you had no HD.
[23:28] <john38> Beldar, yes yes sorry
[23:29] <john38> Beldar, damn are you kidding me so the HD is bad
[23:29] <Beldar> john38, I have not said anything was bad, I have just mentioned tools to analyze.
[23:30] <john38> Beldar, well i am going to try sakang's method and download and run rescue disk see if that helps??
[23:30] <sakang> john38: hopefully, good luck
[23:30] <audictive> john38: what does the output of the command "lsblk" say? and do you recognize wanted partition from output by size?
[23:31] <john38> audictive, i cannot access system
[23:31] <Guest62101> Hi, I have recently upgraded to 14.04
[23:31] <Beldar> john38, That tool is no good if the HD is not showing.
[23:31] <Guest62101> and have issues with dual monitor.
[23:31] <john38> audictive, it says Reboot and select proper boot device...so on
[23:31] <Guest62101> I am running i3wm on macbook air.
[23:31] <Guest62101> nvidia driver.
[23:31] <audictive> john38: i meant from live session
[23:32] <john38> audictive, hold on let me pop in livecd
[23:32] <Cami>  Preview of my icons do not appear, attached picture: http://es.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rny2ow&s=8#.U1WnUt-7ybk
[23:32] <Cami> how to restore this think???????????????
[23:33] <hemant_i3wm> ubuntu 14.04 on mabcook air, dual boot, nvidia driver, issue => cannot connect to dual monitor.
[23:35] <joseluis64> hello! how can I use the kde lightdm greeter instead of the unity one, this last is ugly.
[23:35] <Jordan_U> john38: Please boot from a LiveCD and pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "sudo blkid".
[23:35] <john38> Jordan_U, hey remember
[23:35] <john38> Jordan_U, me
[23:36] <john38> Jordan_U, ok hold on
[23:36] <hemant_i3wm> ubuntu 14.04 on mabcook air, dual boot, nvidia driver, issue => cannot connect to dual monitor.
[23:37] <john38> audictive, be back in 20min
[23:37] <john38> Jordan_U, be back in 20min
[23:37] <Bray90820> Can someone tell me what the hell this means
[23:37] <Bray90820> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/Screenshot%20from%202014-04-21%2018%3A31%3A22.png
[23:37] <audictive> john38: ok
[23:37] <minimec> Jordan_U: try 'sudo update-alternatives --config lightdm-greeter'. If the greeter is available you can choose it.
[23:37] <rmorabia> Is there any way to dual-boot Windows if I already have Ubuntu installed?
[23:38] <joseluis64> minimec it was me, who asked the question about lightdm
[23:38] <Jpmh> rmorabia: virtual machine is the best
[23:38] <joseluis64> there aren't alternatives for lightdm-greeter
[23:38] <rmorabia> Alright, thanks.
[23:39] <minimec> joseluis64: Yeah... :) I was doing jo<tab> ...
[23:39] <joseluis64> minimec is ok..
[23:39] <minimec> joseluis64: So look in the repos and install the according package...
[23:40] <hemant_i3wm> Bray90820: I think it means you need a egrep pattern to identify /etc/passwd like entries
[23:40] <hemant_i3wm> Bryanstein: something like ---- egrep "^([^:]*:){6}.*"
[23:41] <Pushy> howdy?
[23:41] <joseluis64> minimec I already have it, the thing is that I installed unity, and that installation overrode the kde greeter I had before
[23:42] <minimec> joseluis64: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm-kde-greeter' could also do it...
[23:43] <minimec> joseluis64: or... 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm'
[23:44] <joseluis64> minimec I did that before, but im not so sure if it worked, I'll be back shortly.. thank you.
[23:44] <zsw_> how can i get 14.04 without installing a distro iso?
[23:45] <k1l_> zsw_: you mean debootstrap ?
[23:45] <zsw_> yes
[23:45] <Bray90820> hemant_i3wm: am i safe to assume that this is /etc/passwd file
[23:46] <Bray90820> what i sent you that is
[23:46] <darkelfjuggalo> had to reload connection everything froze after I asked about running a program in console
[23:46] <zsw_> the new update
[23:47] <zsw_> k1l you sitll there
[23:47] <k1l_> zsw_: yes
[23:48] <zsw_> how can i install it as a desktop?
[23:48] <k1l_> zsw_: debootstraping as an advanced task (like your task "installing without an iso" is too)
[23:49] <zsw_> explain please
[23:49] <berend> Does anyone use panning with Trusty Tahr? Worked perfectly on precise, but have a lot of graphics issue, such as panning that causes the panned area to flicker heavily and keep displaying traces of dragged windows.
[23:49] <joseluis64> minimec it didn't work
[23:49] <berend> The "always on workspace" option doesn't work for me either.
[23:50] <k1l_> zsw_: why dond you want the easy way: download ubuntu.iso, put on dvd or usb-drive, boot that, install, done
[23:50] <k1l_> *dont
[23:51] <darkelfjuggalo> does anyone know how to run a program in a console?  I cannot login to my desktop and I need to authenticate a network that uses a webpage gateway to be able to fix the problems that prevent me from logging In to my desktop
[23:51] <minimec> joseluis64: that is strange...
[23:52] <berend> darkelfjuggalo: would w3m help you?
[23:52] <berend> That's a console based browser.
[23:52] <berend> or is your problem you can't find the console?
[23:52] <joseluis64> minimec I tried to locate the file /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf but it dosn't exist, at least in Ubuntu 14.04, does not existe
[23:53] <Guest76204> hey now
[23:53] <darkelfjuggalo> w3m would be perfect if I can load the authentication page
[23:53] <minimec> joseluis64: configuration has moved to /usr/share/lightdm I think.
[23:53] <berend> darkelfjuggalo: just type in: w3m www.example.org
[23:54] <berend> i.e. replace with your web page.
[23:54] <darkelfjuggalo> *screams* w3m is not installed -.-
[23:55] <berend> darkelfjuggalo: sudo apt-get install w3m
[23:55] <joseluis64> minimec I found two files there: 40-lightdm-kde-greeter.conf and 50-unity-greeter.conf
[23:55] <darkelfjuggalo> I need to authenticate the network to do that berend
[23:56] <joseluis64> minimec each file sets it own default greeter
[23:56] <berend> darkelfjuggalo: how can you authenticate if you can't load the page?
[23:56] <folkie> hey. i customized my plymouth loader, but it only works when shutting down. when the computer is starting up, the default xubuntu image is shown, and the customized background is only shown if i press an arrow key (goes to text mode) and again to come back to graphical mode (returns to the customized background). how can i make the starting image to be the customized one?
[23:56] <minimec> joseluis64: I am not really familiar with that new configuration stuff. I newer touched it...
[23:57] <berend> darkelfjuggalo: why does firefox not work? Can't see why you need network access to log into your console.
[23:57] <berend> oops, desktop I mean.
[23:58] <darkelfjuggalo> berend: I upgraded to 14.04 today and after he restart it told me 'failed to start session' when I try to log In...
[23:59] <berend> darkelfjuggalo: did you  lok at /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[23:59] <berend> doesn't sound like a network issue, or a login issue.
[23:59] <darkelfjuggalo> how?
[23:59] <berend> More perhaps a driver issue.
[23:59] <minimec> darkelfjuggalo: Now that you have a connection again. Can you verify that the 'ubuntu-desktop' package is installed with all its dependencies?
[23:59] <berend> darkelfjuggalo: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:59] <darkelfjuggalo> I need a network to get the correct drivers or packages