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bluesabreknome: got some fixes for you to verify :)01:09
bluesabrehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7295830/01:09
bluesabrewaiting for the packages to publish https://code.launchpad.net/~menulibre-dev/+archive/daily01:09
knomemhm01:09
knomenice01:10
knomewhat kind of markup is that?01:10
bluesabredunno, I think thats modeled after PHP or mysql's NEWS file01:11
* bluesabre likes to mix it up01:11
knomeaha :P01:11
bluesabreaaaaand they're published01:12
knomeyep, can confirm all bugs i've reported are fixed01:16
knomeyou still have a few to go though ;)01:16
bluesabreyeah, good to know they're golden now01:17
knomeespecially like the "remember collapsed/expanded" state fix01:18
bluesabreLogan_, things have been quiet recently, would you be interested in doing a merge?02:33
bluesabrehttps://code.launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis/ubuntu/trusty/parole/gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio/+merge/21656502:33
bluesabreknome: you can also approve the above if you'd like.  :-)02:34
Logan_what's the deal with the archive right now? I've been kinda busy02:34
knomebluesabre, we need an SRU bug afaik02:35
bluesabreah02:35
* bluesabre goes to learn02:35
knomebluesabre, here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates02:35
bluesabreis the archive currently locked, or has it reopened?02:35
knomebluesabre, ask -release02:35
bluesabreok02:35
Logan_"Archive: Limbo"02:35
bluesabreok, that makes bug fixes less fun, will work on that now02:38
bluesabreknome: look good? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7296223/02:49
knome"...so this can future users as well." ????02:49
knomeyeah, looks good02:49
bluesabreyeah, added "help" in there02:49
knomei would think it's a no-brainer really02:50
bluesabreyeah02:50
knomewe're going to have fun with filing all of those SRU bugs02:51
knomeand the SRU team is going to love us02:51
knomeand by 2017, it has escalated to the ultimate world peace02:51
knomeand cars run on fart02:51
knomeright, i'm off to bed02:54
knomehave fun and see you later02:54
bluesabrelol02:58
bluesabrenight knome02:58
bluesabreknome: if you'd like to follow up with this, that would be *awesome* ;) https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72862603:23
ubottuGnome bug 728626 in libgnome-menu "preprocess_layout_info: assertion failed: (!directory->preprocessed) with Alacarte and MenuLibre" [Normal,Unconfirmed]03:23
starratsJust let you know,after a week of no problems at start-up my cursor froze again this morning.  09:16
ochosihey brainwash 09:28
brainwashgood morning ochosi 09:28
ochosiwe have a new patch to try for testing, in case you have some time: https://github.com/EricKoegel/xfce4-power-manager/tree/lid-lock09:29
ochosi(ran into some troubles when i tried last night, but that could also be because i was dead-tired and didn't look closely what i was doing)09:29
brainwashI know09:31
brainwashhttps://launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/+archive/test09:31
brainwashnot sure if elfy already tested it09:31
ochosiare you watching that repo? :)09:31
brainwashno09:32
brainwashI got informed :P09:32
ochosior did eric ping you about it09:32
ochosiah good09:32
brainwashthe guy over at #xubuntu already tested it09:32
brainwashbut he has some general lid close problem09:32
brainwasheven when closing the lid while the greeter screen is active09:33
ochosiright09:33
brainwashno light-locker or xfpm involved :/09:33
brainwashand I don't understand how the new patch resolves the issue09:35
ochosifrankly with all the places in which xfpm interacts with lid, suspend and lock i'm not sure i have any idea how a patch could reasonably work09:39
elfyelfy didn't test anything 10:22
bluesabreso much backlash over light-locker10:34
* ochosi shrugs10:34
ochosithat's how it is if you switch default software10:35
ochosialways lots of moaning and shouting going along10:35
bluesabreyeah10:35
elfymorning bluesabre ochosi 10:35
bluesabreLogan_: "<infinity> bluesabre: Get someone to upload it, much easier to review in the queue."10:35
ochosijust imagine if we decided to ship libreoffice10:35
bluesabrecould you upload it it trusty-proposed?10:35
bluesabrehttps://code.launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis/ubuntu/trusty/parole/gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio/+merge/21656510:35
bluesabreotherwise I'll go bug dholbach :)10:36
elfyochosi: the sky would fall in I suspect :)10:36
bluesabremaybe... except I think there may be 0.00000001% of our users that like abiword10:36
elfybut THEY will be the loud ones :p10:37
bluesabre:D10:37
elfydoesn't really matter what we do - someone will not like it 10:37
ochosithing is, ppl will get upset about the image-size exploding10:38
ochosiand those that don't want/need an office-suit will shout about that surely10:38
elfythere is that10:38
ochosithat's the compromise in shipping abiword imo10:38
bluesabreindeed10:38
elfypersonally I'm happy to just install the bits of libreoffice I actually use and not the whole thing and to do so when I want to 10:40
elfybluesabre: in a perfect world we not need to do it at all :D10:47
bluesabre:)10:47
* elfy has thunar not perm deleting with shift+delete atm10:48
bluesabrefun10:48
elfyawesome - I has an income tax refund of £66010:49
bluesabrecongrats10:49
bluesabrewe had a refund this year of $610:49
elfyconsidering I don't earn enough to pay any in the first place - I'll delete that e-mail then :p10:50
bluesabreoh lol10:50
bluesabregotta run, be back way later10:54
elfyhave a good one :)10:54
knomeochosi, oh btw, did you see the new alignment stuff already?11:04
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olbihttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY2OTI, why there wasn't any ppl from Xfce Team? :-(14:09
damiankhi14:28
damiankone question14:28
damianki saw somewhere that reducing swappiness from default 60 to 10 the disk would be read less and i would have more speed14:28
damiankis that true?14:28
damiankbecause i tried it and i dont see any changes really14:28
damiankactually, the pc seems slower...14:28
elfyyou know this isn't a support channel :)14:29
damianksorry elfy...14:29
elfy#xubuntu is the support channel :)14:29
damianki'll ask there14:29
damianki installed 14.04b2 with no issues14:30
damiankso good work you all!14:30
elfythanks on behalf of us :)14:31
damiank:)14:31
damianki was a bit out due to having a new job, but anyway i wanted to let you know its working great here on my 2 pcs14:31
elfynice 14:31
damiankyeah14:32
damianki didnt upgrade, i just formatted and did full install14:32
damianki think its better14:32
elfydid both here - a lot of times 14:33
Logan_bluesabre: where did he say that?14:33
amigamagicis there some gtk expert here?14:36
amigamagicbasically, in the tasklist plugin on the xfce panel, I would like to move the position of the icon labels... In the source code I'm able to change the text, but I'm not able to move it (for example to make it more close to the icon itself).14:41
Logan_amigamagic: irc://irc.gnome.org/#gtk+14:42
amigamagicLogan_, thanks14:45
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amigamagichey guys, I'm modding the tasklist plugin to make some visual feedback of grouped icons when you use the "always" option to group them.16:14
amigamagicSo far this is what I achieved: http://oi60.tinypic.com/2jaf9yw.jpg16:15
jhenkehi everybody16:23
amigamagichi16:24
elfyevening both16:25
amigamagicSome opinions on my example screenshot of the grouped icons visual feedback?16:36
GridCubeamigamagic, it looks interesting, but i think i would like the numbers to be in the exact oposite position, up to the top left if you have your desktop set up in an occidental language and up to the top right if you have an oriental language, because thats the order you read16:41
amigamagicGridCube, I think it should not be too difficult to place that number in another position. I placed it there because usually the labels are placed to the right of the icons.16:47
GridCubetrue, im just saying what i would like personally16:48
amigamagicok, thanks for your feedback :)16:49
starratsthink I'm going to have to file a bug report concerning the 'frozen cursor' I'm having again, after a week of non-reezing of it.17:08
starratstried to report a bug on term with ubuntu-bug and get sent to a page/link that I don't understand what you folks want me or others to do!17:16
amigamagicstarrats, maybe you should try on the main xubuntu channel for generic support or bug reporting17:20
starratsthanks didn't know it jumped frfom 13.10 to 14.0417:22
knomeamigamagic, if you want relevant feedback on your patch, you could try asking the people who actually use grouping to begin with in -devel and/or -users lists17:22
amigamagicknome, what those -devel / -users list are?17:25
knome!xubuntu-devel17:26
ubottuThe Xubuntu developer mailing list information can be found at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel | The Xubuntu developer IRC channel is #xubuntu-devel17:26
knomeand the same url but replace -devel with -users17:26
amigamagicah, so you mean mailing-list... I haven't used them from much time... Maybe I should give it a try...17:28
elfyamigamagic: it's going to be more useful that asking in here now and again17:30
amigamagicok elfy and knome... btw, do you use grouping?17:32
elfynope - don't use the plugin either ;)17:32
knomei don't, which is why i said youd get more elevant information on the lists17:33
amigamagicok, thanks for the info17:34
pleia2knome: there is a bit too much white space on the right hand side of the page for US Letter versions, makes folding off18:10
knomepleia2, i noticed the same thing.18:10
knomepleia2, there shouldn't.18:11
pleia2yeah, the image doesn't show it18:11
knomedid you make sure the zoom is 100%?18:11
pleia2yeah, it looks good on the screen18:11
knomei mean, the pdf might be resized to fit the page18:11
pleia2it's 100%18:11
knomewell i don't know.18:11
knomeit should be good.18:11
knomei'll look again later today18:12
* pleia2 nods18:12
pleia2also, my printer works :D18:12
knomecool18:12
knomewill you be around later then?18:12
pleia2working, but generally should be18:13
knomeoki18:14
Unit193knome: Once you get http://paste.ubuntu.com/7294292/ type bt18:52
amigamagicknome, can I send the mail to more than one mailing list at once? (-users and -devel lists)18:54
amigamagicand if I can... You suggest me to do so?18:54
knomeamigamagic, you can, but i'd probably do two different mails.18:54
amigamagicok, thanks18:55
damiankelfy are you here?19:17
elfyyea19:21
damiankit seems updating fixed the problem19:21
damiankregarding memory19:21
damiankso i had an old beta :)19:21
elfyk19:21
damianksorry for asking before updating ;)19:22
elfys'ok :)19:22
damianki've been using it for about 1hr and swap never goes more than 5%19:22
damiankbefore i had 40%19:22
damiankthe beta i had was downloaded one week ago, so you're fast fixing stuff ;)19:23
damianki mean the devs19:23
elfy:)19:23
damianki opened a lot of stuff to test, and it works great19:24
elfyI'm glad you like it 19:25
damiankyeah, i always liked xubuntu, but its getting better with each release19:25
damianki was afraid of updating from 12.04 but i think its worth it19:26
damiankthe new release works great19:26
damianknow19:26
elfyI've only used it constantly for a few years myself - would agree it gets better release by release :)19:26
damiankso do you have experience with android and xubuntu? id like to know if its possible to use my galaxy with it? should i ask in the other channel?19:30
elfyno idea at all 19:30
damiankok19:30
damiankno worries19:35
damianki'm searching google...19:35
damianki have to go now i'll be back later19:43
ochosiknome: alignment stuff on x.org?19:43
ochosior where19:43
elfyochosi: possibly http://xstaging.lallinaho.fi/2014/04/18/image-alignment-testing-post/19:53
ochosiyup, knome pinged me about it elsewhere with the link19:54
ochosithanks though19:54
ochosiamigamagic: you're the one who sent an email to the dev mailinglist about the tasklist plugin today, right?21:11
amigamagicochosi, yes22:02

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