| mwhudson | i'm seeing the local dnsmasq occasionally go screwy and not answering requests in trusty | 01:08 |
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| mdeslaur | FYI, python-django security update introduced a regression. Have identified upsteam bug and fix and will release updates shortly. (LP: #1311433) | 03:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1311433 in python-django (Ubuntu Trusty) "REGRESSION: AttributeError: 'functools.partial' object has no attribute '__module__' " [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1311433 | 03:35 |
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| pitti | slangasek: indeed; this just ships some additional binaries now like /lib/systemd/systemd, it doesn't change the default | 04:49 |
| pitti | slangasek: i. e. the PPA is meant to land as it is; I disabled systemd-sysv, as that's uninstallable as long as many things depend on upstart only | 04:49 |
| pitti | slangasek: so for the time being one has to manually boot systemd, as in my blog | 04:50 |
| pitti | slangasek: and ISTR that we discussed in the hangout (or in the TC bug) that the systemd-sysv approach wasn't what we wanted? | 04:50 |
| Unit193 | (I used a modified 10_linux to add it as an option to grub http://paste.openstack.org/show/K8PXsu8nhUxTz89yJg4M/ but then again I did several things differently than you did.) | 04:53 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:45 |
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| NikTh | pitti: Hello , are you here ? | 07:54 |
| pitti | hello NikTh | 07:54 |
| NikTh | pitti: I just commented on your blog about systemd. It seems that there is no turning back to official packages ? e.g with ppa-purge I get an error about "Could not find package list..." | 07:55 |
| pitti | NikTh: if you don't boot with init=, it's not supposed to change anything; it seems this changed the NM behaviour somehow | 07:56 |
| pitti | NikTh: no idea why ppa-purge doesn't work; how did you call it? | 07:56 |
| pitti | it worked well enough some time ago | 07:56 |
| NikTh | pitti: sudo ppa-purge ppa:pitti/systemd | 07:56 |
| NikTh | pitti: ppa-purge is working on other ppas (I have tested it on other ppas just for sure) | 07:57 |
| NikTh | pitti: Yes, the NM does not work on upstart if you have updated the packages with systemd repo. | 07:57 |
| pitti | NikTh: hm, NM works fine here | 07:58 |
| pitti | (with upstart) | 07:58 |
| pitti | NikTh: what's the output of "nmcli nm"? | 07:58 |
| pitti | and is NM running at all? (pidof NetworkManager) | 07:58 |
| NikTh | Now I have booted in systemd , If I boot in upstart (now that I have updated through your repo) I don't have an active Internet connection. I can ping properly, but no application is able to resolve any host. | 07:59 |
| pitti | NikTh: right, so please give me the nmcli nm output under upstart; also, can you pastebin the complete ppa-purge output? this ought to work (and it's not specific to my PPA) | 08:01 |
| zyga | pitti: hey, very cool the work you did on bringing systemd to Ubuntu! :-) | 08:01 |
| pitti | zyga: it wasn't all that much really -- so far this is just what the Debian maintainers di :) | 08:01 |
| pitti | did | 08:01 |
| NikTh | I suspect something with resolv.conf , because now (with init=/lib/systemd/systemd) I can see nameserver correctly in contents. When I boot without the parameter resolv.conf is empty. | 08:01 |
| pitti | zyga: I merely created a lightdm unit, and our NM doesn't have units, everything else pretty much just worked | 08:02 |
| pitti | NikTh: right, that means NM/dnsmasq isn't running properly | 08:02 |
| zyga | pitti: do you think it is realistic we'll see systemd in u series early on? | 08:02 |
| zyga | pitti: as a default? | 08:02 |
| pitti | zyga: not as default; we first need to provide systemd equivalents of all the /etc/init/* bits | 08:03 |
| pitti | zyga: but I do intend to upload the PPA contents to U as soon as it opens; so far this should be fairly harmless | 08:03 |
| zyga | pitti: ah, right, I recall the transition uds sessions, it's a difficult nut to crack | 08:03 |
| tjaalton | could someone who knows grub2 have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1311247 | 08:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1311247 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "error: malformed file, press any key to continue" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 08:03 |
| pitti | zyga: not particularly difficult, just some work (and probably merging with Debian and maybe stealing some units from Fedora) | 08:03 |
| zyga | pitti: does systemd upstream support running as a user session? | 08:04 |
| tjaalton | a friend of mine hit that bug | 08:04 |
| tjaalton | after lts->lts upgrade | 08:04 |
| NikTh | pitti: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=fLqniTEy | 08:04 |
| pitti | zyga: yes, but we'll look at that after settling the systemd side; one step at a time | 08:04 |
| zyga | pitti: well the transition decisions were hard (do we keep upstart to run unconverted jobs or do we break compatibility) | 08:04 |
| pitti | zyga: first we need to make that rock solid, and also make this work on the server and phone | 08:04 |
| pitti | zyga: see the BP; upstart should run as a "deputy init" for some time | 08:04 |
| zyga | pitti: has there been a decision to switch on phablet now? | 08:05 |
| * zyga wonders how that will affect our initial product launches | 08:05 | |
| pitti | NikTh: what do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ? is there a .list for my PPA at all? | 08:05 |
| pitti | NikTh: maybe that's already gone | 08:05 |
| pitti | zyga: we of course can't do anything which breaks the phone; hence I just want to make this opt-in for now, so that interested developers can play with it, but we don't break anything | 08:06 |
| zyga | pitti: nice, I indend to give it a try as soon as U opens | 08:07 |
| * zyga wonders when U will get a name and when the archive will be open | 08:07 | |
| NikTh | pitti: is there, something wrecked I suspect with servers ? with launchpad ? I will test it again later. | 08:08 |
| pitti | zyga: there's the PPA for now | 08:08 |
| ogra_ | zyga, pitti will be very carefull, if he breaks the phone he knows i can whine in his ear all day for the rest of the cycle if needed ;) | 08:08 |
| pitti | oh yes; and ogra_ lives near enough that I can hear him whining from here! | 08:08 |
| ogra_ | pitti, could we get armhf builds in your PPA ? | 08:08 |
| ogra_ | :) | 08:08 |
| doko_ | heulsuse | 08:08 |
| ogra_ | lol | 08:08 |
| pitti | ogra_: my layman PPA doesn't have ARM, but I can do a manual build and put them on people or so | 08:09 |
| pitti | ogra_: but U will be open soon enough, then we'll just get them from the archive :) | 08:09 |
| ogra_ | pitti, just ask the LP team to enable armhf | 08:09 |
| zyga | ogra_: heh :-) | 08:09 |
| ogra_ | soon enough ... right | 08:09 |
| pitti | dear sabdfl, please give us an adjective | 08:09 |
| pitti | for the Undeniable Unicorn | 08:09 |
| pitti | or Untitled Ubuntu | 08:10 |
| * ogra_ thinks this is a conspiracy between mark and randall ross to make planet more popular again | 08:10 | |
| asac | the "unnamed ubuntu" :) | 08:10 |
| asac | hehe right | 08:10 |
| NikTh | pitti: What is your understanding on this ? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6EbQSq8B | 08:10 |
| ogra_ | suddenly everyone has it open again and hits F5 all day | 08:10 |
| pitti | NikTh: oh, suddenly it works? | 08:10 |
| mvo | uber Uguisu | 08:11 |
| zyga | uncanny underdog | 08:11 |
| pitti | yeah, http://www.list-of-animals.com/u.html is hopelessly small :/ | 08:11 |
| mvo | yep | 08:11 |
| * mvo like uncanny underdog | 08:11 | |
| NikTh | pitti: I don't think it worked properly. Did not downgrade the packages properly. | 08:12 |
| pitti | actually, maybe ogra's head will look like http://www.list-of-animals.com/details-uakari after landing systemd :) | 08:12 |
| zyga | lol :) | 08:12 |
| ogra_ | LOL ! | 08:12 |
| pitti | NikTh: hm, right; so it seems ppa-purge is broken :( | 08:13 |
| pitti | NikTh: what happens if you try: sudo apt-get install network-manager/trusty ? | 08:14 |
| pitti | NikTh: oh, you need to remove /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pitti-systemd-trusty.list first and run sudo apt-get update | 08:14 |
| NikTh | pitti: I will try something else first.. wait. I have added the ppa again and I will try to remove it again, because ppa-purge worked as it should on other ppas. Only this one seems to have some difficulties. | 08:15 |
| pitti | NikTh: otherwise, try | 08:16 |
| pitti | sudo dpkg --P --force-depends systemd | 08:16 |
| pitti | sudo apt-get install {udev,network-manager,libgudev-1.0-0,lightdm,systemd-services,libpam-systemd,gir1.2-gudev-1.0,libnm-glib-vpn1,libnm-util2,gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0,libnm-glib4,liblightdm-gobject-1-0,libsystemd-login0,libsystemd-daemon0,libsystemd-journal0,libudev1,libudev1:i386}/trusty | 08:16 |
| pitti | NikTh: but yes, re-adding and re-removing sounds worth a try, too | 08:17 |
| NikTh | pitti: what would you answer on this ? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xAxT8vXH . I would answer yes, but as I said something weird is happening with the packages. | 08:18 |
| pitti | NikTh: yes, that looks right | 08:19 |
| pitti | NikTh: i. e. "y" | 08:19 |
| NikTh | pitti: :-) | 08:20 |
| pitti | NikTh: the PPA removes systemd-services and adds systemd, so ppa-purge should revert that | 08:20 |
| NikTh | pitti: Here is another funny part : http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Ln2CwpWk | 08:21 |
| pitti | NikTh: ah, yes; better do that when running under upstart; the trusty version has no idea about systemd, it assumes upstart is there | 08:23 |
| NikTh | pitti: the funny thing is that NM (as we said before) does not work under upstart, so it cannot read any packages list. | 08:26 |
| pitti | NikTh: it already downloaded everything, so it should | 08:26 |
| pitti | NikTh: but as I said, I have no idea why NM doesn't work for you, it does here; I need "nmcli nm" as a first step for debugging that | 08:27 |
| pitti | NikTh: but you should run apt-get install -f first; it seems with all the ppa-purge stuff you wrecked your packages quite a bit :( | 08:28 |
| NikTh | pitti: quite a bit ? quite a LOT I would say. :P | 08:28 |
| NikTh | I will reboot in upstart now.. what logs you may want to keep for the NM/dnsmasq problem ? | 08:32 |
| NikTh | pitti: | 08:32 |
| pitti | NikTh: not sure yet; could be that NM doesn't start up at all (nmcli will fail then), or doesn't see the connections, etc. | 08:32 |
| pitti | NikTh: I kind of hope it fails to start completey (although I can't reproduce that), as everything else would be rather unrelated to upstart vs. systemd | 08:33 |
| NikTh | Ok, I'll see. See you later. | 08:33 |
| pitti | NikTh: /var/log/syslog is interesting in most cases | 08:33 |
| pitti | mvo: with python-apt, I can only call mark_install() on an apt.package.Package object; but I have already picked a (non-default) version from its .versions array, can I somehow mark *that* for install instead of the most current version? | 08:53 |
| pitti | mvo: or do I have to call fetch_binary on the apt.package.Version object, and drop the usage of apt.apt_pkg.Acquire? | 08:54 |
| mvo | pitti: yes, just change the candidate version and then call mark install | 08:56 |
| mvo | pitti: i.e. pkg.candidate = some_different_ver should work | 08:57 |
| pitti | mvo: ooh! thanks! | 08:57 |
| mvo | pitti: if not let me know and point me to the code please so that I can poke around | 08:57 |
| pitti | mvo: it works wonderfully, thanks! | 08:59 |
| NikTh | pitti: I'm back :) | 08:59 |
| mvo | pitti: great to hear | 09:00 |
| NikTh | I have resolved(short of) the problem with resolv.conf in upstart mode. I "hacked" manually the /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head and added a custom nameserver like 8.8.8.8 | 09:00 |
| pitti | NikTh: so is NM running at all? | 09:01 |
| NikTh | But when I ran resolvconf -u guess what the message was ? | 09:01 |
| NikTh | Yes, NM was running, nmcli nm returned enabled active running.. | 09:01 |
| NikTh | As I told before that I can ping, but it cannot resolve any host. | 09:02 |
| pitti | so what was the error message? | 09:02 |
| NikTh | /etc/resolvconf/update.d/libc: Warning: /etc/resolv.conf is not a symbolic link to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf | 09:02 |
| pitti | ok, that sounds rather unrelated to what boots your system :) | 09:04 |
| NikTh | So I made the symbolic link properly and now I am in upstart mode with NM full working. nslookup return the appropriate messages | 09:04 |
| pitti | nice | 09:04 |
| pitti | NikTh: well, it could certainly be related to /etc/init/resolvconf.conf not having a systemd equivalent | 09:05 |
| pitti | (nor an init.d one) | 09:05 |
| NikTh | The thing here is that before I upgrade from your repo I didn't have any problem, but I will not insist, because I had one other testing repo except yours. :) | 09:05 |
| NikTh | Anyway, I will try to fix the other errors now, with ppa-purge | 09:06 |
| pitti | NikTh: it could certainly be; in my VM /etc/resolv.conf isn't a symlink either | 09:06 |
| pitti | NikTh: so thanks for pointing that out! | 09:06 |
| NikTh | pitti: I will still keep testing your repo/packages/systemd.. you can consider me as a tester on this migration :-) I use systemd in Arch Linux and Fedora.. so I think I can help a little bit :) | 09:08 |
| pitti | NikTh: nice! yes, I just confirmed that booting with systemd replaces the symlink with a file; I'll fix that | 09:10 |
| pitti | NikTh: so, thanks for reporting that! | 09:11 |
| NikTh | pitti: Ok. Glad I helped :-) | 09:11 |
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| ogra_ | asac, HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!! | 09:15 |
| pitti | oh, alles Gute asac! | 09:15 |
| NikTh | pitti: ppa-pure now worked as it should. The user must purge the ppa in upstart mode (as you indicated earlier) or it will not work. Everything back to normal :) | 09:15 |
| pitti | yay | 09:16 |
| mvo | ohhh, asac HAPPY BIRTHDAY :) | 09:16 |
| asac | omg | 09:18 |
| asac | now the public reminder :P | 09:18 |
| ogra_ | :) | 09:18 |
| asac | ogra_: pitti: mvo: thx | 09:18 |
| asac | i feel honoured to be with you guys on my birthday :P | 09:18 |
| asac | even if only remotely | 09:19 |
| asac | hehe | 09:19 |
| ogra_ | heh | 09:19 |
| seb128 | asac, happy birthday! | 09:20 |
| asac | seb128: thanks! | 09:21 |
| mvo | asac: haha | 09:25 |
| asac | mvo: at least you are ahead of me :) (i hope i remember correctly) | 09:26 |
| mvo | asac: I think so, yes - and ogra_ as well ;) | 09:29 |
| ogra_ | yeah, i'm an old fart | 09:29 |
| Laney | you old guys... | 09:29 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | Laney: =))) happy two years! | 10:11 |
| mlankhorst | still no name? | 10:11 |
| Laney | NoNameYet_xnox: !!! | 10:11 |
| mvo | Laney: ohhh, congrats | 10:17 |
| Laney | mvo: thanks | 10:18 |
| Laney | xnox too (we're twins) | 10:18 |
| Laney | (ish) | 10:18 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | =) | 10:18 |
| seb128 | NoNameYet_xnox, is there for as long as Laney is? | 10:21 |
| seb128 | happy anniversary guys ;-) | 10:21 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | seb128: yeah =) on parole that is, Laney was in the community for longer than I have been. | 10:22 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | *payroll | 10:22 |
| seb128 | NoNameYet_xnox, k, that's probably why it feels like Laney has been there for ever ;-) | 10:26 |
| Laney | doesn't to me :P | 10:27 |
| dholbach | asac, happy birthday! :) | 10:29 |
| asac | dholbach: o/ | 10:34 |
| asac | thanks! | 10:34 |
| zyga | asac: happy birthday :-) | 10:37 |
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| doko | asac, wußte ich doch daß asac für "Alter S***" steht ;-P Viel Spaß beim Zählen der Jahresringe =) | 10:40 |
| asac | doko: :P | 10:41 |
| asac | immer diese typisch deutschen witze | 10:41 |
| asac | hehe | 10:41 |
| asac | zyga: thanks! | 10:41 |
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| NoNameYet_xnox | doko: wouldn't it be helpful for gcc-multilib to ship e.g. i386-linux-gnu-gcc (et.al.) binaries/symlinks? | 11:06 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | (for symmetry with gcc:i386 on i386) | 11:07 |
| doko | can't be symlinks, and needs some thoughts what the defaults should be ... | 11:11 |
| work_alkisg | There's a translateable string in gedit that sets the preferred encoding for the current locale. It was translated wrong for the "el" locale until today, when I notified the gnome-gr team and we fixed it upstream. | 11:29 |
| work_alkisg | I want to backport that translation for previous versions of Ubuntu, e.g. 12.04, 14.04 etc. If I go to translations.launchpad.net and edit it (I have the required rights), it'll show up in the next "language-pack-el", right? Or do I need to file a bug report/SRU about it? | 11:29 |
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| NoNameYet_xnox | alkisg: yes, just edit it on translations.lauchpad.net for all affected releases. a lang-pack refresh will pick it up. | 11:35 |
| alkisg | Thank you NoNameYet_xnox, done: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/gedit/+pots/gedit/el/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=ISO-8859-15 | 11:36 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | alkisg: i think we do langpack refresh at point releases so 14.04.1 and 12.04.5 will have it fixed. | 11:36 |
| alkisg | Cool | 11:36 |
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| caribou | Laney: I have a question regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sosreport/+bug/1296755 | 12:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1296755 in sosreport (Ubuntu Saucy) "sosreport archive /var/lib/maas by default" [Medium,In progress] | 12:15 |
| caribou | Laney: you added a task for Quantal-backport, any reason for that ? this release is EOL | 12:16 |
| Laney | caribou: It's not, not for a few weeks yet | 12:18 |
| caribou | Laney: is it worth going through the backport trouble for that ? I wouldn't think so | 12:18 |
| caribou | Laney: sosreport is mainly used by the support engineers | 12:18 |
| Laney | it's up to you | 12:19 |
| caribou | Laney: ok, I will mark the Quantal backport as "Wont fix" and concentrate on Precise | 12:19 |
| Laney | If you want to update it in P then that's what is needed | 12:19 |
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| Laney | So sez the rules of backports | 12:20 |
| caribou | Laney: you mean I just have to wait a week and I'll only have to worry about precise ? | 12:21 |
| Laney | Probably more like 4 weeks, but there's no announcement about that yet | 12:21 |
| caribou | Laney: well, both P & Q sosreport versions are the same; I'll build debdiffs for both | 12:21 |
| caribou | Laney: thanks for the details | 12:22 |
| Laney | Don't think it'll be hard to boot a Quantal VM and see if it runs | 12:22 |
| Laney | the standard required isn't very high | 12:22 |
| caribou | indeed | 12:22 |
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| arges | Trevinho: hi, I'm looking at bug 723167, and notice that this issue was partially fixed. Would you like me to open a new bug, or mark this bug back to 'New' status. Thanks | 13:38 |
| ubottu | bug 723167 in cairo (Ubuntu) "Fuzzy fonts caused by Cairo antialiasing artifacts with Radiance theme." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723167 | 13:38 |
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| slangasek | pitti: I certainly expect that systemd will be providing /sbin/init eventually, and we're not going to have to manually boot, if that's what you mean | 14:31 |
| pitti | slangasek: ah, so we don't want a separate systemd-sysv, just move /sbin/init, poweroff, etc. from upstart to systemd? | 14:32 |
| pitti | slangasek: (as we only support one system, not multiple as Debian) | 14:32 |
| slangasek | pitti: I think that would be the eventual goal; I'm not sure we need to diverge in the other direction from the Debian packaging | 14:32 |
| pitti | slangasek: ok; well, let's figure that out when the time comes :) | 14:33 |
| pitti | debian delta wise, it might just be easiest to have systemd-sysv after all | 14:33 |
| Logan_ | Riddell: yeah, everything seems to be in limbo due to not having a codename | 14:37 |
| Logan_ | we can't even update distro-info-data properly yet | 14:37 |
| Adri2000 | almost one week after the release :/ | 14:39 |
| Riddell | seems most unprofessional | 14:41 |
| pitti | Riddell: yes, it's really blocked; you wouldn't know what to put into debian/changelog and the .changes file, for starters | 14:44 |
| dobey | pitti: "unstable" :) | 14:45 |
| pitti | dobey: I still call dibs on "Untitled Ubuntu" | 14:45 |
| Logan_ | sabdfl is letting us down | 14:46 |
| pitti | PPAs FTW.. | 14:47 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | pitti: well, you can upload to "devel" but that would still at the moment end up in trusty's queue. | 14:47 |
| pitti | yeah, wrong target | 14:47 |
| Logan_ | nice nick, Dimitri :P | 14:47 |
| ogra_ | Logan_, dont you have to call him John now ? | 14:48 |
| ogra_ | :) | 14:48 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | pitti: at one point there was a plan to use devel alias all the time (like in debian) but apt complaints about something (can't remember i think if one uses devel in sources.list) | 14:48 |
| pitti | NoNameYet_xnox: I had used devel in apt sources for quite some time; but I reverted it as I ran into hash sum mismatches way more often than with "trusty" | 14:49 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | pitti: it would be nice if we could keep devel always open, similar to how fedora's raw-hide is always open, and stable release is simply branched at FF or some such. | 14:49 |
| pitti | NoNameYet_xnox: I mainly suspect that the symlinks interact badly with apt-cacher-ng | 14:49 |
| pitti | NoNameYet_xnox: rolling release! *cough* | 14:49 |
| Logan_ | NoNameYet_xnox: so... Debian? | 14:49 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | Logan_: well that's how i've been doing my merges yesterday - > by forwarding patches to debian and tricking maintainers to upload them =) | 14:50 |
| Logan_ | that's the best way to do them :) | 14:50 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | i guess i should start mass NMUs.... | 14:50 |
| barry | i just want my tab completion to stop getting confused on "tru" when i have both trusty and trunk directories | 14:51 |
| Logan_ | could we maybe make "u-series" an alias for whatever adjective he comes up with? | 14:52 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | barry: well i have "trusty" and "u-series" | 14:53 |
| barry | NoNameYet_xnox: yeah. i always branch into a dir named after the series. it was a bit painful last cycle ;) | 14:55 |
| MacSlow | jamesh_, ping | 15:09 |
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| ryanprior | Is there a PPA for the latest Qt and Qt Creator on 13.10? | 15:55 |
| Logan_ | ryanprior: looks like https://launchpad.net/~alexey-ivanov/+archive/qtcreator has the latest Qt Creator | 15:59 |
| ryanprior | Logan_: thanks. Looks like that's still Qt4. I'm also interested in using the latest Qt but I haven't been able to find a repo with both the latest Qt and the latest Qt Creator. | 16:03 |
| Logan_ | build from source? | 16:03 |
| ryanprior | Logan_: I can sure do that. I just figured that since Ubuntu has been doing so much Qt work already, somebody might already be tracking the latest stable releases so that I wouldn't have to. | 16:04 |
| ryanprior | Logan_: if I start building from source at every new stable release, I might as well maintain a PPA with the latest Qt and Qt Creator packages. But I figured somebody here might already be doing that. | 16:06 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | ryanprior: what do you define as "latest"? | 16:06 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | ryanprior: qt5 in ubuntu is at 5.2.1 | 16:07 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | ryanprior: which is latest stable release at this point. | 16:08 |
| ryanprior | NoNameYet_xnox: in Saucy it's 5.0.2 | 16:08 |
| Logan_ | ryanprior: why not upgrade? | 16:09 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | ryanprior: upgrade to 14.04 LTS, it's out now. | 16:09 |
| ryanprior | NoNameYet_xnox: because I'm in the middle of development and don't have a second machine I can get all set up and migrate to. If I screw up my only machine during upgrade then I'll have to sink a day restoring my data and configuration from backups. | 16:10 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | ryanprior: or start 14.04 in lxc container / chroot to launch/use newer qt. | 16:10 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | or use a VM. | 16:10 |
| NoNameYet_xnox | ryanprior: trying to retro-fit 5.2 onto 13.10 is the surest way to break your machine, since it's a large transition which is only correctly compatible with 14.04. | 16:11 |
| ryanprior | NoNameYet_xnox: okay, I'll look into the chroot option. That sounds pretty sensible. | 16:11 |
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| Logan_ | guess who just got a text about a post by Mark :D | 17:28 |
| Logan_ | UTOPIC UNICORN LEGGOOOO | 17:28 |
| Logan_ | (I love it) | 17:28 |
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| UtopicUnicorn | NoNameYet_xnox: time to change your nick :P | 17:35 |
| ogra_ | ++ | 17:35 |
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| zyga | ohhh yes | 17:40 |
| zyga | unicorns it is | 17:40 |
| * zyga looks forward to natty narwhal videos for unicorns | 17:40 | |
| UtopicUnicorn | I'm going to need the t-shirt for this release | 17:42 |
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| dobey | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9auOCbH5Ns4 | 17:55 |
| zyga | dobey: but is that a *utopic* unocirn ;) ? | 17:55 |
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| dobey | zyga: well it's not a breezy badger, waving its arms around | 18:01 |
| * zyga loves this job | 18:01 | |
| Quintasan | Well | 18:03 |
| Quintasan | I guess it's time for some rainbows in default wallpapers | 18:03 |
| dobey | heh | 18:03 |
| sarnold | hehe | 18:05 |
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| apw | pitti, i seem to remember us talking (maybe at a real uds so this could be old) that mountall should but did not fix premounted filesystem's options to match mtab, for things like /proc and /sys; can you recall the discussion? | 18:30 |
| apw | pitti, and, ugg, does this flow over into systemd at all | 18:30 |
| ogra_ | apw, doesnt systemd require that mounting happens in the initrd ? | 18:31 |
| * ogra_ heard that somewhere ... might be a myth | 18:31 | |
| * apw looks clueless about systemd (pretty impressive over irc i recon) | 18:32 | |
| ogra_ | heh | 18:34 |
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| bdmurray | mpt: Do you a suggestion for a color for the retracers graph for failed retraces for 14.10? https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~daisy-pluckers/errors/trunk/view/head:/errors/static/js/retracers.js | 20:59 |
| infinity | bdmurray: Pink. With unicorns surfing the peaks. | 21:01 |
| Logan_ | well, that's just special | 21:25 |
| Logan_ | I proposed a merge for a branch that I can push to | 21:26 |
| dobey | and? | 21:27 |
| dobey | i do that daily :) | 21:27 |
| Logan_ | it was a minor change that didn't really need approval, and I didn't realize I had access to the branch :P | 21:28 |
| Logan_ | tumbleweed: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/ubuntu-dev-tools/trunk/revision/1420 | 21:39 |
| Logan_ | fixed that from your change in 2011: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/ubuntu-dev-tools/trunk/revision/1201.1.33 :P | 21:39 |
| Logan_ | it was quitting if people said "yes" and continuing if "no" | 21:39 |
| Logan_ | and it was asking if people wanted to continue :P | 21:39 |
| tumbleweed | Logan_: thanks | 21:43 |
| Logan_ | no problem | 21:44 |
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