| jabberwocky93 | morning everyone | 06:07 |
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| * jabberwocky93 slaps Spekko with a large trout | 06:08 | |
| * Spekko feels abused | 06:09 | |
| bduk1 | More almal | 06:13 |
| jabberwocky93 | more bduk1 | 06:33 |
| Squirm | woop | 07:13 |
| Squirm | I got my car yesterday | 07:13 |
| Squirm | :D | 07:13 |
| Vince-0 | o/ | 07:25 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning all | 07:31 |
| Vince-0 | surp | 07:40 |
| not_found | o/ | 07:54 |
| Kilos | hi nl | 07:54 |
| Kilos | ai! hi not_found | 07:54 |
| Kilos | lo Golynx | 07:54 |
| not_found | :) | 07:54 |
| Golynx | hi Kilos | 08:03 |
| Golynx | hi not_found | 08:03 |
| not_found | hi Golynx | 08:05 |
| Kilos | who understands this | 08:30 |
| Kilos | http://businesstech.co.za/news/mobile/55844/vodacom-readying-fibre-to-the-home/ | 08:31 |
| Kilos | are they going to put fibre cables or what | 08:31 |
| Kilos | or is the fibre going to be to their mobile towers | 08:31 |
| Golynx | i think it may be that vodacom is going to buy Neotel and will likely use fibre cables instead of copper cables to provide landline functionality to the home, besides wireless | 08:36 |
| Kilos | from where? | 08:36 |
| Kilos | from thier mobile towers | 08:36 |
| Kilos | thier | 08:36 |
| Kilos | their | 08:37 |
| Kilos | that would mean they mobile to the tower then fibre to the homes | 08:37 |
| Kilos | weird | 08:37 |
| Golynx | they will use Neotels fibre network mostly and just add on to that | 08:38 |
| Kilos | oh thats in the main cities at the moment i think | 08:38 |
| Golynx | its to increase broadband speeds and LTE network or 4G for vodacom | 08:39 |
| Kilos | that makes sense then to use fibre to the towers and then mobile | 08:40 |
| Golynx | vodacom is the best mobile network for high speed internet, so i guess its a good move | 08:40 |
| Kilos | thats debatable | 08:40 |
| Golynx | ya i does | 08:41 |
| Golynx | vodacom put the reason they dont wana bring down data prices to the fact that they use the money to increase network speed | 08:42 |
| Kilos | to do what? i got 501 till month end | 08:55 |
| * Kilos gonna reboot to kde for a while | 10:13 | |
| Kilos | wbb | 10:13 |
| Kilos | morning superfly ThatGraemeGuy jabberwocky93 Spekko | 10:31 |
| Spekko | more/middag Kilos | 10:32 |
| Kilos | skuus man ek is aan die slapp vandag | 10:33 |
| Kilos | slaap | 10:33 |
| jabberwocky93 | middag Kilos :) | 10:34 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 10:34 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 'lo | 10:34 |
| Golynx | hi Spekko , jabberwocky93 , superfly & ThatGraemeGuy | 10:37 |
| Spekko | Morning Golynx | 10:39 |
| jabberwocky93 | hi! | 10:58 |
| jabberwocky93 | Squirm: how's the new wheels? | 10:59 |
| Squirm | jabberwocky93: very nice | 10:59 |
| jabberwocky93 | awesome :) | 11:00 |
| jabberwocky93 | Kilos: Neotel's fibre infrastructure is huge, there's much more than simply fibre between their mobile towers | 11:01 |
| Kilos | aha | 11:02 |
| Kilos | maybe i must ask telkom to take them over | 11:02 |
| jabberwocky93 | noooooo! | 11:02 |
| jabberwocky93 | I can't remember the name of the business that Neotel was based on, they already had fibre all over south africa | 11:03 |
| jabberwocky93 | wikipedia suggests Transtel | 11:09 |
| * jabberwocky93 is deur die blare | 11:09 | |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:29 |
| inetpro | Kilos: what we need is competition, not more monopoly | 11:34 |
| Kilos | ya thats fine if the competition relates to better prices to the end user | 11:35 |
| Kilos | but telkom is way ahead with prices dropping methinks | 11:35 |
| inetpro | Vodacom’s acquisition of Neotel ‘is close to completion’ | 11:36 |
| Kilos | peer got jabber | 11:37 |
| inetpro | when that is sealed and signed I'm hoping that we will see a bit of shakeup | 11:38 |
| inetpro | but we actually need more than just two powerful cable networks | 11:38 |
| Kilos | telkom will just improve their network and win with prices | 11:39 |
| Kilos | im sure they can speed it up already | 11:39 |
| inetpro | telkom has held us back for way too many years | 11:39 |
| Kilos | like how come the d-link is so fast | 11:39 |
| inetpro | they could have but they didn't | 11:39 |
| Kilos | the e220 and the zte are 7.2m modems so its only the provider thats holding speed back | 11:40 |
| inetpro | what we need is FTTH | 11:40 |
| Kilos | we got min chance of that on plots | 11:40 |
| Kilos | inetpro you can take a chance with the dwm-156 now 14.04 kde sees it fine | 11:46 |
| Kilos | but youre router most likely wont hehe | 11:46 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I don't need it man | 11:46 |
| jabberwocky93 | http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimage/ just disappeared! | 11:47 |
| inetpro | jabberwocky93: I still see it | 11:47 |
| Kilos | maaz is http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimage/ down | 11:47 |
| inetpro | oops... a forced refresh and I also see "404 Not Found" | 11:48 |
| jabberwocky93 | I see http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-release/ is still working | 11:48 |
| * jabberwocky93 continues his download | 11:48 | |
| superfly | weeee!!!! http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ | 11:48 |
| Kilos | what you downloading jabberwocky93 | 11:49 |
| jabberwocky93 | I'm downloading 14.04 for a friend, I updated via apt-get dist-upgrade | 11:49 |
| Golynx | superfly: watch your grammer please! | 11:49 |
| Golynx | you're :p | 11:50 |
| superfly | My grammar? | 11:50 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:50 |
| jabberwocky93 | lol @ symblink | 11:51 |
| inetpro | Kilos: my next router will much rather be something like the HUAWEI B593 4G LTE CPE Industrial Wireless Router | 11:55 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 11:55 |
| Golynx | can the grammar issue still be mentioned at the meeting ? | 11:55 |
| Kilos | Golynx ? | 11:55 |
| Kilos | what you mean | 11:55 |
| Kilos | what grammar issue | 11:56 |
| Golynx | Kilos remember a few weeks ago i got upset about being corrected for a few spelling mistakes | 11:56 |
| inetpro | Golynx: did he make a mistake? | 11:57 |
| Kilos | ya that was me | 11:57 |
| Kilos | now i dont try correct anymore | 11:57 |
| Kilos | follow the old saying | 11:57 |
| Kilos | ignorance is bliss | 11:57 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:57 |
| Golynx | it kinda felt like apartheid. I think anyone should be free to speak the way they want , aslong as they're words can be understood by many | 11:58 |
| Kilos | since i been here only 2 peeps have got mad at being helped with spelling | 11:58 |
| Kilos | their | 11:59 |
| Kilos | rofl | 11:59 |
| inetpro | urbandictionary: weeee - something that you say when u are really happy or bored or just wanna make a statment and you dont really know what to say | 11:59 |
| Kilos | haha | 12:00 |
| Golynx | inetpro: ah , but how many !!!! ? | 12:00 |
| inetpro | Golynx: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=weeee | 12:01 |
| Golynx | should it be one ! or three !!! ? | 12:01 |
| inetpro | aI! | 12:01 |
| Golynx | lol | 12:01 |
| Kilos | ai! inetpro die kinders darem | 12:02 |
| Kilos | ons word oud | 12:02 |
| Golynx | you also use Dutch here , i dont understand that, so that dont qualify as acceptable | 12:03 |
| superfly | *sigh* this is as far as I was able to go: http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ | 12:03 |
| Kilos | sights upgrading | 12:03 |
| Kilos | sites too | 12:03 |
| Kilos | dont you understand afrikaans Golynx ? | 12:04 |
| Kilos | oh my | 12:04 |
| Golynx | Kilos ya i do, maar sommige van die hollandse taal is deurmekaar woorde | 12:08 |
| Kilos | o hulle | 12:08 |
| Golynx | bitteschon ? | 12:09 |
| Kilos | hulle is vriende hier so ons baklei nie met hulle nie | 12:09 |
| Golynx | danke i understand is dankie | 12:09 |
| Kilos | thats german for ty | 12:09 |
| Kilos | no' | 12:09 |
| Kilos | pleasure | 12:09 |
| Kilos | Maaz danke | 12:10 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 12:10 |
| jabberwocky93 | superfly: hahaha I did that too | 12:10 |
| Golynx | Kilos: oh ok | 12:10 |
| Kilos | hi Private_User | 12:21 |
| Private_User | hi Kilos | 12:21 |
| Kilos | hi Rynomster Xethron | 12:27 |
| Xethron_ | hi Kilos | 12:30 |
| Xethron_ | It started crashing again :'( | 12:30 |
| Kilos | oh my | 12:31 |
| Kilos | somehow you can see error messages | 12:31 |
| Kilos | tail or cat methinks | 12:31 |
| Kilos | inetpro which one to use to see error logs please? | 12:31 |
| Kilos | tail /var/log/syslog | 12:32 |
| Xethron_ | Yeah | 12:33 |
| Xethron_ | I tried all the logs | 12:33 |
| Xethron_ | None of them contain any info | 12:33 |
| Kilos | nowhere you can see whats crashing? | 12:34 |
| Kilos | must be some record somewhere | 12:34 |
| Xethron_ | I've even started dumping info like heat and stuff into a seperate file, and nothing seems strange at the time of crashing | 12:34 |
| Xethron_ | I think it crashes before a record can be saved | 12:34 |
| Kilos | what are you doing when it crashes? | 12:34 |
| Kilos | what apps are running | 12:35 |
| Kilos | find the guilty app | 12:35 |
| Xethron_ | Kilos: well | 12:41 |
| Xethron_ | I always have a ton of apps open | 12:41 |
| Kilos | do they all run a while then the crash or crash when you open a certain one or what | 12:41 |
| Xethron_ | Firefox, Sublime Text, Skype, Thunderbird, and possibly Quessel IRC are amongst some of the names I believe have been open on every crash | 12:41 |
| Xethron_ | No | 12:42 |
| Xethron_ | Everything runs fine | 12:42 |
| Xethron_ | There is no Action involved | 12:42 |
| Kilos | not heat? | 12:42 |
| Kilos | dirty cpu | 12:42 |
| Xethron_ | Just, at a random time, doing a random (sometimes nothing) thing, it crashes | 12:42 |
| Xethron_ | Sometimes I will leave it and come back finding it crashed | 12:42 |
| Xethron_ | other times I would be typing | 12:42 |
| Kilos | check cpu heatsink and fan if they are clean | 12:43 |
| Kilos | total everything crash like a hang? | 12:43 |
| Kilos | reseat rams | 12:43 |
| Xethron_ | Kilos: I have logged tempretures to a file, and after the crash, they all looked normal | 12:43 |
| Xethron_ | And yeah, screen freezes in its last state | 12:44 |
| Xethron_ | So I can still see everything | 12:44 |
| Xethron_ | Screen looks fine | 12:44 |
| Xethron_ | but nothing works | 12:44 |
| Kilos | hm... where the clever peeps when these probs arise | 12:44 |
| Kilos | what does google tell you? | 12:45 |
| Kilos | its most likely hardware i think | 12:45 |
| Kilos | or you got a bug from msn or something | 12:45 |
| Xethron_ | haha | 12:46 |
| Xethron_ | yeah | 12:46 |
| Xethron_ | I dunno | 12:46 |
| Xethron_ | I think I'll just buy myself a new pc | 12:46 |
| Kilos | send the old one here ill fix it for you | 12:47 |
| Xethron_ | haha | 12:49 |
| Kilos | how old is it | 12:50 |
| Kilos | what specs | 12:50 |
| Kilos | its a stupid thing causing the crash most likely | 12:51 |
| Golynx | webcam works \o/ | 14:30 |
| Kilos | what is a docking station? | 14:56 |
| Golynx | isn't that like where you plug in the ubuntu phone then its connected as a full desktop OS to the pc | 14:59 |
| Golynx | Maaz google docking station | 14:59 |
| Maaz | Golynx: "Docking station - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docking_station :: "Amazon.com: Docking Stations: Electronics" http://www.amazon.com/b?node=778660 :: "Laptop Docking Stations - Best Buy" http://www.bestbuy.com/site/laptop-accessories/laptop-docking-stations/pcmcat251600050011.c?id=pcmcat251600050011 :: "Laptop Docking | 14:59 |
| Maaz | Stations: USB Docking Stations at Office Depot" http://www.officedepot.com/a/browse/laptop-docking-s… | 14:59 |
| Kilos | ah ty i forget maaz sometimes | 15:01 |
| Golynx | cool stuff | 15:05 |
| Kilos | shame i look at olx and bidorbuy sometimes | 15:06 |
| Kilos | one student is selling his lappy for 1500 to pay his registration fee | 15:06 |
| Golynx | registration fee for university ? | 15:08 |
| Kilos | ya | 15:08 |
| Golynx | oh, ya thats not good | 15:09 |
| Kilos | and some peeps spend R1.2m on swimming pool and kraals | 15:09 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:09 |
| Golynx | lol | 15:09 |
| Golynx | funny how some of the richest people on the world dropped out of or never went to university | 15:12 |
| Kilos | yeah | 15:17 |
| charl_ | good evening | 16:42 |
| charl_ | Maaz: coffee on | 16:42 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 16:42 | |
| Kilos | hi charl_ | 16:46 |
| Kilos | Maaz coffee please | 16:46 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Done | 16:46 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos! | 16:46 |
| Kilos | Maaz ty | 16:46 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 16:46 |
| charl_ | hi Kilos | 16:46 |
| charl_ | Maaz: thanks | 16:46 |
| Maaz | charl_: No problem | 16:46 |
| Golynx | hi charl_ | 16:47 |
| charl_ | hi Golynx | 16:47 |
| charl_ | how's it going | 16:47 |
| Golynx | good and your side | 16:48 |
| Golynx | you're* | 16:50 |
| charl_ | good | 16:50 |
| charl_ | busy working on some dnssec code | 16:50 |
| Golynx | dns security never slows hey | 16:53 |
| Golynx | got to keep those backdoors closed :) | 16:57 |
| Kilos | hi Private_User | 17:59 |
| charl_ | hi Private_User | 18:01 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 18:01 |
| charl_ | i am really loving 14.04 up to this far | 18:01 |
| Kilos | yeah me too | 18:01 |
| charl_ | i upgraded my laptop yesterday | 18:01 |
| charl_ | they fixed that irritating ctrl+left and right arrow keys problem in byobu | 18:01 |
| Kilos | kde even saw my d-link modem right off | 18:01 |
| charl_ | you can now skip words again | 18:01 |
| charl_ | that one was really irritating me | 18:02 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:02 |
| charl_ | there was a fix for it but then you have to do it on every server | 18:02 |
| charl_ | now it's right by default | 18:02 |
| Kilos | 14.04 actually seems like one of the better releases | 18:02 |
| charl_ | yes | 18:03 |
| Kilos | hey charl give some ideas to Xethron_ | 18:04 |
| charl_ | what ideas? | 18:04 |
| Kilos | his pc hangs every now and again | 18:04 |
| charl_ | randomly? check te syslogs | 18:05 |
| charl_ | that's my only advice | 18:05 |
| Kilos | eish man we need more info | 18:05 |
| charl_ | somebody i know had that problem and it ended up being related to the nouveau drivers | 18:05 |
| Kilos | he says syslogs dont show the crash | 18:05 |
| charl_ | replaced them with the binaries and it worked (nvidia) | 18:05 |
| charl_ | i had an idea that the graphics card was the issue | 18:06 |
| Kilos | Xethron_ ping | 18:06 |
| charl_ | especially since the issue only popped up when she used a browser | 18:06 |
| charl_ | brb | 18:06 |
| Kilos | he has a lot of apps running | 18:06 |
| charl_ | try to narrow it down with one app at a time | 18:19 |
| charl_ | if you have a strange graphics card (basically anything other than intel hd) you might have a problem in any case | 18:20 |
| Golynx | maybe his going beyond the memory ram capacity | 18:20 |
| Golynx | swap too | 18:20 |
| Golynx | just a guess though :p | 18:21 |
| Kilos | will hear when he answers | 18:23 |
| Kilos | frustrating that. ubuntu is just supposed to work | 18:23 |
| charl_ | also possible, a hardware problem | 18:25 |
| charl_ | often the cause of freezes if there is nothing in the syslog | 18:26 |
| Golynx | Kilos this morning it was vodacom and now its mtn lol http://www.techcentral.co.za/mtn-reveals-fibre-to-the-home-plans/47750/ | 18:34 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:35 |
| Kilos | they must carry on then telkom will also push harder | 18:36 |
| Golynx | but mtn has the telkom deal going, while vodacom is with neotel | 18:37 |
| Kilos | im happy with my speed as is just would like 5g data for the R148 | 18:38 |
| Kilos | R149 | 18:38 |
| Kilos | im getting as bad as everyone else | 18:39 |
| Kilos | 3g is becoming min | 18:39 |
| Golynx | yeah, we need much cost per gig in the mobile sector. Atleast equal to landline will be good. | 18:40 |
| Golynx | lower* | 18:41 |
| Golynx | lets hope the deals mobile networks made with the landline giants brings down cost and improves the overall network reliability | 18:43 |
| Golynx | hi Private_User | 18:43 |
| Kilos | my net is good. been on all day without a break | 18:52 |
| Kilos | i still think 8ta is tops | 18:53 |
| Kilos | sis has voda on her tablet and often loses connection | 18:53 |
| Golynx | no 8ta here coverage here. Strange vodacom dont have such good coverage outside Pretoria | 18:55 |
| Kilos | it shows full signal of fones but often disconnects | 19:00 |
| Kilos | 8ta very stable | 19:01 |
| Golynx | oh ok | 19:08 |
| Kilos | bad connection again Private_User | 19:16 |
| Golynx | such weird names 14.10 named Utopic Unicorn lol | 19:27 |
| charl_ | have a good evening all | 19:29 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:37 |
| Kilos | see ya tomorrow | 19:37 |
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