[06:07] morning everyone [06:08] * jabberwocky93 slaps Spekko with a large trout [06:09] * Spekko feels abused [06:13] More almal [06:33] more bduk1 [07:13] woop [07:13] I got my car yesterday [07:13] :D [07:25] o/ [07:31] morning all [07:40] surp [07:54] o/ [07:54] hi nl [07:54] ai! hi not_found [07:54] lo Golynx [07:54] :) [08:03] hi Kilos [08:03] hi not_found [08:05] hi Golynx [08:30] who understands this [08:31] http://businesstech.co.za/news/mobile/55844/vodacom-readying-fibre-to-the-home/ [08:31] are they going to put fibre cables or what [08:31] or is the fibre going to be to their mobile towers [08:36] i think it may be that vodacom is going to buy Neotel and will likely use fibre cables instead of copper cables to provide landline functionality to the home, besides wireless [08:36] from where? [08:36] from thier mobile towers [08:36] thier [08:37] their [08:37] that would mean they mobile to the tower then fibre to the homes [08:37] weird [08:38] they will use Neotels fibre network mostly and just add on to that [08:38] oh thats in the main cities at the moment i think [08:39] its to increase broadband speeds and LTE network or 4G for vodacom [08:40] that makes sense then to use fibre to the towers and then mobile [08:40] vodacom is the best mobile network for high speed internet, so i guess its a good move [08:40] thats debatable [08:41] ya i does [08:42] vodacom put the reason they dont wana bring down data prices to the fact that they use the money to increase network speed [08:55] to do what? i got 501 till month end [10:13] * Kilos gonna reboot to kde for a while [10:13] wbb [10:31] morning superfly ThatGraemeGuy jabberwocky93 Spekko [10:32] more/middag Kilos [10:33] skuus man ek is aan die slapp vandag [10:33] slaap [10:34] middag Kilos :) [10:34] hi Kilos [10:34] 'lo [10:37] hi Spekko , jabberwocky93 , superfly & ThatGraemeGuy [10:39] Morning Golynx [10:58] hi! [10:59] Squirm: how's the new wheels? [10:59] jabberwocky93: very nice [11:00] awesome :) [11:01] Kilos: Neotel's fibre infrastructure is huge, there's much more than simply fibre between their mobile towers [11:02] aha [11:02] maybe i must ask telkom to take them over [11:02] noooooo! [11:03] I can't remember the name of the business that Neotel was based on, they already had fibre all over south africa [11:09] wikipedia suggests Transtel [11:09] * jabberwocky93 is deur die blare [11:29] hehe [11:34] Kilos: what we need is competition, not more monopoly [11:35] ya thats fine if the competition relates to better prices to the end user [11:35] but telkom is way ahead with prices dropping methinks [11:36] Vodacom’s acquisition of Neotel ‘is close to completion’ [11:37] peer got jabber [11:38] when that is sealed and signed I'm hoping that we will see a bit of shakeup [11:38] but we actually need more than just two powerful cable networks [11:39] telkom will just improve their network and win with prices [11:39] im sure they can speed it up already [11:39] telkom has held us back for way too many years [11:39] like how come the d-link is so fast [11:39] they could have but they didn't [11:40] the e220 and the zte are 7.2m modems so its only the provider thats holding speed back [11:40] what we need is FTTH [11:40] we got min chance of that on plots [11:46] inetpro you can take a chance with the dwm-156 now 14.04 kde sees it fine [11:46] but youre router most likely wont hehe [11:46] Kilos: I don't need it man [11:47] http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimage/ just disappeared! [11:47] jabberwocky93: I still see it [11:47] maaz is http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimage/ down [11:48] oops... a forced refresh and I also see "404 Not Found" [11:48] I see http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-release/ is still working [11:48] * jabberwocky93 continues his download [11:48] weeee!!!! http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ [11:49] what you downloading jabberwocky93 [11:49] I'm downloading 14.04 for a friend, I updated via apt-get dist-upgrade [11:49] superfly: watch your grammer please! [11:50] you're :p [11:50] My grammar? [11:50] lol [11:51] lol @ symblink [11:55] Kilos: my next router will much rather be something like the HUAWEI B593 4G LTE CPE Industrial Wireless Router [11:55] sjoe [11:55] can the grammar issue still be mentioned at the meeting ? [11:55] Golynx ? [11:55] what you mean [11:56] what grammar issue [11:56] Kilos remember a few weeks ago i got upset about being corrected for a few spelling mistakes [11:57] Golynx: did he make a mistake? [11:57] ya that was me [11:57] now i dont try correct anymore [11:57] follow the old saying [11:57] ignorance is bliss [11:57] hehe [11:58] it kinda felt like apartheid. I think anyone should be free to speak the way they want , aslong as they're words can be understood by many [11:58] since i been here only 2 peeps have got mad at being helped with spelling [11:59] their [11:59] rofl [11:59] urbandictionary: weeee - something that you say when u are really happy or bored or just wanna make a statment and you dont really know what to say [12:00] haha [12:00] inetpro: ah , but how many !!!! ? [12:01] Golynx: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=weeee [12:01] should it be one ! or three !!! ? [12:01] aI! [12:01] lol [12:02] ai! inetpro die kinders darem [12:02] ons word oud [12:03] you also use Dutch here , i dont understand that, so that dont qualify as acceptable [12:03] *sigh* this is as far as I was able to go: http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ [12:03] sights upgrading [12:03] sites too [12:04] dont you understand afrikaans Golynx ? [12:04] oh my [12:08] Kilos ya i do, maar sommige van die hollandse taal is deurmekaar woorde [12:08] o hulle [12:09] bitteschon ? [12:09] hulle is vriende hier so ons baklei nie met hulle nie [12:09] danke i understand is dankie [12:09] thats german for ty [12:09] no' [12:09] pleasure [12:10] Maaz danke [12:10] Bitteschön [12:10] superfly: hahaha I did that too [12:10] Kilos: oh ok [12:21] hi Private_User [12:21] hi Kilos [12:27] hi Rynomster Xethron [12:30] hi Kilos [12:30] It started crashing again :'( [12:31] oh my [12:31] somehow you can see error messages [12:31] tail or cat methinks [12:31] inetpro which one to use to see error logs please? [12:32] tail /var/log/syslog [12:33] Yeah [12:33] I tried all the logs [12:33] None of them contain any info [12:34] nowhere you can see whats crashing? [12:34] must be some record somewhere [12:34] I've even started dumping info like heat and stuff into a seperate file, and nothing seems strange at the time of crashing [12:34] I think it crashes before a record can be saved [12:34] what are you doing when it crashes? [12:35] what apps are running [12:35] find the guilty app [12:41] Kilos: well [12:41] I always have a ton of apps open [12:41] do they all run a while then the crash or crash when you open a certain one or what [12:41] Firefox, Sublime Text, Skype, Thunderbird, and possibly Quessel IRC are amongst some of the names I believe have been open on every crash [12:42] No [12:42] Everything runs fine [12:42] There is no Action involved [12:42] not heat? [12:42] dirty cpu [12:42] Just, at a random time, doing a random (sometimes nothing) thing, it crashes [12:42] Sometimes I will leave it and come back finding it crashed [12:42] other times I would be typing [12:43] check cpu heatsink and fan if they are clean [12:43] total everything crash like a hang? [12:43] reseat rams [12:43] Kilos: I have logged tempretures to a file, and after the crash, they all looked normal [12:44] And yeah, screen freezes in its last state [12:44] So I can still see everything [12:44] Screen looks fine [12:44] but nothing works [12:44] hm... where the clever peeps when these probs arise [12:45] what does google tell you? [12:45] its most likely hardware i think [12:45] or you got a bug from msn or something [12:46] haha [12:46] yeah [12:46] I dunno [12:46] I think I'll just buy myself a new pc [12:47] send the old one here ill fix it for you [12:49] haha [12:50] how old is it [12:50] what specs [12:51] its a stupid thing causing the crash most likely [14:30] webcam works \o/ [14:56] what is a docking station? [14:59] isn't that like where you plug in the ubuntu phone then its connected as a full desktop OS to the pc [14:59] Maaz google docking station [14:59] Golynx: "Docking station - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docking_station :: "Amazon.com: Docking Stations: Electronics" http://www.amazon.com/b?node=778660 :: "Laptop Docking Stations - Best Buy" http://www.bestbuy.com/site/laptop-accessories/laptop-docking-stations/pcmcat251600050011.c?id=pcmcat251600050011 :: "Laptop Docking [14:59] Stations: USB Docking Stations at Office Depot" http://www.officedepot.com/a/browse/laptop-docking-s… [15:01] ah ty i forget maaz sometimes [15:05] cool stuff [15:06] shame i look at olx and bidorbuy sometimes [15:06] one student is selling his lappy for 1500 to pay his registration fee [15:08] registration fee for university ? [15:08] ya [15:09] oh, ya thats not good [15:09] and some peeps spend R1.2m on swimming pool and kraals [15:09] hehe [15:09] lol [15:12] funny how some of the richest people on the world dropped out of or never went to university [15:17] yeah [16:42] good evening [16:42] Maaz: coffee on [16:42] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [16:46] hi charl_ [16:46] Maaz coffee please [16:46] Kilos: Done [16:46] Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos! [16:46] Maaz ty [16:46] You are welcome Kilos [16:46] hi Kilos [16:46] Maaz: thanks [16:46] charl_: No problem [16:47] hi charl_ [16:47] hi Golynx [16:47] how's it going [16:48] good and your side [16:50] you're* [16:50] good [16:50] busy working on some dnssec code [16:53] dns security never slows hey [16:57] got to keep those backdoors closed :) [17:59] hi Private_User [18:01] hi Private_User [18:01] hmm... [18:01] i am really loving 14.04 up to this far [18:01] yeah me too [18:01] i upgraded my laptop yesterday [18:01] they fixed that irritating ctrl+left and right arrow keys problem in byobu [18:01] kde even saw my d-link modem right off [18:01] you can now skip words again [18:02] that one was really irritating me [18:02] lol [18:02] there was a fix for it but then you have to do it on every server [18:02] now it's right by default [18:02] 14.04 actually seems like one of the better releases [18:03] yes [18:04] hey charl give some ideas to Xethron_ [18:04] what ideas? [18:04] his pc hangs every now and again [18:05] randomly? check te syslogs [18:05] that's my only advice [18:05] eish man we need more info [18:05] somebody i know had that problem and it ended up being related to the nouveau drivers [18:05] he says syslogs dont show the crash [18:05] replaced them with the binaries and it worked (nvidia) [18:06] i had an idea that the graphics card was the issue [18:06] Xethron_ ping [18:06] especially since the issue only popped up when she used a browser [18:06] brb [18:06] he has a lot of apps running [18:19] try to narrow it down with one app at a time [18:20] if you have a strange graphics card (basically anything other than intel hd) you might have a problem in any case [18:20] maybe his going beyond the memory ram capacity [18:20] swap too [18:21] just a guess though :p [18:23] will hear when he answers [18:23] frustrating that. ubuntu is just supposed to work [18:25] also possible, a hardware problem [18:26] often the cause of freezes if there is nothing in the syslog [18:34] Kilos this morning it was vodacom and now its mtn lol http://www.techcentral.co.za/mtn-reveals-fibre-to-the-home-plans/47750/ [18:35] lol [18:36] they must carry on then telkom will also push harder [18:37] but mtn has the telkom deal going, while vodacom is with neotel [18:38] im happy with my speed as is just would like 5g data for the R148 [18:38] R149 [18:39] im getting as bad as everyone else [18:39] 3g is becoming min [18:40] yeah, we need much cost per gig in the mobile sector. Atleast equal to landline will be good. [18:41] lower* [18:43] lets hope the deals mobile networks made with the landline giants brings down cost and improves the overall network reliability [18:43] hi Private_User [18:52] my net is good. been on all day without a break [18:53] i still think 8ta is tops [18:53] sis has voda on her tablet and often loses connection [18:55] no 8ta here coverage here. Strange vodacom dont have such good coverage outside Pretoria [19:00] it shows full signal of fones but often disconnects [19:01] 8ta very stable [19:08] oh ok [19:16] bad connection again Private_User [19:27] such weird names 14.10 named Utopic Unicorn lol [19:29] have a good evening all [19:37] night all. sleep tight [19:37] see ya tomorrow