[00:04] <endo> So, I booted things up.
[00:05] <endo> I changed things in the BIOS. If I set it to EUFI only it will not boot Windows 7 64bit (rather, it will boot but hang on loading CLASSPNP.SYS or something). If I enable something called "CSM" support for legacy boot, it will boot.
[00:06] <endo> I have started up the LiveCD for Xubuntu 14.04 64bit, and at the start it says (it comes and goes very quickly) "Could not find */Boot/EUFI"
[00:07] <endo> It might say "Not Found" and those might be backslashes, and that asterisk might not be there. I don't know for sure.
[00:07] <endo> However my BIOS is set to EUFI with CSM support.
[00:07] <endo> Let me try and install.
[00:09] <xubuntu192> file:///home/xubuntu/Im%C3%A1genes/Screenshot%20-%20220414%20-%2021:08:00.png
[00:10] <knome> xubuntu192, we can't see your local files
[00:10] <endo> sigh
[00:10] <knome> !imagebin | xubuntu192
[00:10] <xubuntu192> error copy/paste soory
[00:11] <endo> How many times does the installer CD spin up and down before it goes forward into the main installation off the livecd?
[00:11] <endo> two dozen? three?
[00:13] <endo> Where the hell
[00:13] <Jok3r> have you tried to install via usb?
[00:13] <endo> "Installation type"
[00:13] <endo> Jok3r: Doesn't matter. It went.
[00:13] <knome> endo, calm down and watch your language
[00:13] <endo> "This computer currently has no detected operating systems. What would you like to do?
[00:13] <peyam> endo, alot. it lays everything on the Ram. so alot
[00:13] <endo> Something else
[00:13] <endo> hmmmm
[00:13] <endo> brb
[00:14] <peyam> endo, can you open gparted and see what you have there?
[00:14] <peyam> with the cd
[00:14]  * peyam just convert a friend of mine to Xubuntu.
[00:18] <peyam> knome, does it matter what server one is using or does all updates uploades atomatically to all servers? have been wondering it
[00:19] <endo> lOh,
[00:19] <Unit193> peyam: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[00:20] <endo> I have some sort of recover partition at the end. And there are two odd partitions at the begnning
[00:20] <Unit193> One small one at the start of the drive is the UEFI boot drive.
[00:20] <Unit193> s/drive./partition./
[00:21] <peyam> what is odd partitions?
[00:21] <peyam> NFTS?
[00:22] <endo> Unknown. This is a Lenovo OEM install of Windows 7, so it could be something nonstandard.
[00:22] <peyam> åhhh ur system is fu**ked up now
[00:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> they might be part of a diagnostic partition
[00:23] <Unit193> peyam: Watch the language.
[00:23] <Unit193> peyam: You should know better by now, really.
[00:23] <endo> peyam:
[00:23] <endo> http://imagebin.org/307037
[00:23] <endo> peyam: Why is it?
[00:24] <peyam> Unit193, ;)
[00:24] <endo> Unit193: The EUFI boot partition uses FAT32?
[00:24] <Unit193> endo: FAT32 is the UEFI boot partition, I'd say the 14G one is the "recovery" partition.
[00:24] <peyam> endo, okej okej.. thats allright.. you have urpartitions thats good. but you have no free space
[00:24] <endo> Yes. But it doesn't explain why /dev/sda3 aka Windows7_OS isn't picked up by the windows installer
[00:25] <endo> peyam: Are you a troll?
[00:25] <endo> by the xubuntu installer*
[00:25] <peyam> endo, you have 451 GB, you have the disk full
[00:25] <peyam> I dont know. its a windows issue
[00:25] <Unit193> endo: Do you have a Windows system drive and a Windows data drive? (sda2 and sda3)
[00:26] <endo> System.
[00:26] <endo> I do not know what sda2 is. It is too small to be a system drive.
[00:26] <xubuntu447> bummer I tried apt-get distro-upgrade and now I am getting all kinds of python errors and cannot update or roll back anything
[00:26] <endo> peyam: Not really a Windows issue. It is a ubiquity installer issue.
[00:26] <xubuntu447> xubuntu 13.10 -> 14.04
[00:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> clean install, please
[00:27] <peyam> endo, sindows makes 2 partitions. one for the boot and one for the system itself. the one for the loade is messed up
[00:27] <peyam> Poisoned_Dragon, +1
[00:27] <endo> Alright. So what now?
[00:28] <Unit193> xubuntu447: At what point did it break?
[00:28] <knome> peyam, can you stop making pointless guesses?
[00:28] <peyam> endo, use the recovery to fic the problem.
[00:28] <Unit193> xubuntu447: And, what command did you use, exactly?
[00:28] <endo> peyam: No.
[00:28] <endo> knome: What do you think it could be?
[00:28] <peyam> knome, it's not pointless. I had exactly same problem once.
[00:28] <xubuntu447> UNIT193 <> after dist-upgrade
[00:28] <knome> endo, i don't know, but i'd keep both sda1/sda2.
[00:29] <knome> endo, for why sda3 is not picked up, ntfs
[00:29] <peyam> knome, and dont talk to me that way. i dont care who you are
[00:29] <Unit193> xubuntu447: That's not a distro upgrade, just standard updates.
[00:29] <xubuntu447> apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:29] <knome> peyam, last warning and you are out. and you know what that means this time.
[00:29] <endo> Of course. However if the installer does not pick up that there is another OS then GRUB will not present it at boot.
[00:29] <xubuntu447> oh... sigh
[00:29] <Unit193> xubuntu447: Can you run  sudo dpkg --configure -a  ?
[00:29] <endo> knome: What do you mean? It is not picked up because it is NTFS?
[00:29] <xubuntu447> ill try hold on
[00:30] <peyam> knome, stop confuse the gut with you linux talks then!
[00:30] <knome> peyam, i'm sorry, but this is a linux support channel.
[00:30] <Unit193> peyam: You seem to be the one confused, please just stop.
[00:30] <endo> Someone ban peyam?
[00:30] <Unit193> endo: Can you use the Windows partition editor to give yourself some free, unallocated space to install?
[00:30] <peyam> Unit193, knome the easiest way to fix it is to inser a windows dvd and make the bootloader safe again! it's not even a linux issue
[00:31] <knome> peyam, you can stop now.
[00:31] <xubuntu447> uh ok its building inital module for 3.11.0-919 generic
[00:31] <peyam> stop
[00:31] <xubuntu447> Errors were encountered while processing
[00:31] <knome> endo, are you looking for a dual boot, or just xubuntu?
[00:31] <xubuntu447> ubuntu-release-upgrader-gtk  apport-gtk  python-apport  update-manager-core  update-notifier  unattended-upgrades  ubuntu-release-upgrader-core  python3-gdbm:amd64  python3-distupgrade  aptdaemon  gconf2  python3-gi-cairo  apport  update-notifier-common  xubuntu-default-settings
[00:31] <Unit193> xubuntu447: Pastes to paste.ubuntu.com.
[00:32] <xubuntu447> ahaha sry pastebin
[00:32] <endo> Unit193: The installer should do that anyways, with resizing using parted. Even if I used some Windows partition editor instead, the installer would move over the Windows install and install GRUB as a bootloader without the option to boot windows.
[00:32] <endo> knome: Dual boot.
[00:32] <Unit193> endo: os-prober should be able to pick it up.
[00:33] <endo> Unit193: Free space isn't the issue here.
[00:33] <xubuntu447> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7311007/
[00:33] <endo> root@xubuntu:~# os-prober
[00:33] <endo> /dev/sda1@/efi/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi:Windows Boot Manager:Windows:efi
[00:33] <endo> I'm not sure what this did, but should I rerun the installer now?
[00:35] <xubuntu447> oops did I get the boot
[00:35] <knome> xubuntu447, no, you're fine. just wait patiently :)
[00:35] <xubuntu447> oh hey no problem I've been looking at this for days now
[00:35] <xubuntu447> :)
[00:36]  * Unit193 wonders what's up with /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libploop.so.1
[00:36] <endo> Unit193: What is the 1mb space at the beginning of the disk? Should not the EUFI FAT32 partition be at the very beginning
[00:36] <xubuntu447> I know I previously installed openvz
[00:37] <endo> The installer *still* does not detect windows.
[00:37] <endo> os-prober does
[00:37] <Unit193> xubuntu447: What does  dpkg -S /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libploop.so.1  tell you?
[00:38] <xubuntu447> ok hold plse
[00:38] <endo> ugggggghhhhhhh
[00:38] <Unit193> I'd say openvz messed things up a tad.
[00:38] <peyam> endo, so it is when u dont litsen to me
[00:38] <xubuntu447> libploop1:amd64: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libploop.so.1
[00:38] <endo> peyam: shut the FUCK up
[00:39] <knome> endo, and you, clean up your mouth
[00:39] <endo> But maybe he is right. 'fixparts' might help.
[00:39] <xubuntu447> yeh I thinks me get plopped on
[00:39] <xubuntu447> plooped
[00:39] <knome> xubuntu447, you're still fine
[00:39] <Unit193> Hah.  Well, lets see here.
[00:40] <Unit193> endo: os-prober used to help grub find disks, and add them to the boot menu.
[00:40] <endo> Does EUFI use an MBR?
[00:40] <xubuntu447> when I upgrade to python3 is when the real ploop hits the fan
[00:40] <Unit193> UEFI is a bit of black magic to me, I've installed on it once, and it fully worked, but...
[00:41] <Unit193> endo: I'm not sure what to really tell you past what I have, so..
[00:41] <endo> os-prober should help the installer know to let grub add them to the boot menu
[00:41] <endo> as it stands I have to either use the entire disk for xubuntu
[00:42] <xubuntu447> I was thinking if I upgraded to 14.04 problems would just disappear
[00:42] <endo> fixparts - MBR partition table repair utility
[00:42] <Unit193> xubuntu447: That would be `do-release-upgrade`
[00:42] <knome> xubuntu447, you haven't upgraded to 14.04, as Unit193 told you... dist-upgrade doesn't get you to the next version
[00:43] <xubuntu447> what are some apt source.lists I should pay attention too?
[00:43] <Unit193> Sorry?
[00:44] <xubuntu447> what shold I have in my sources.list file
[00:44] <xubuntu447> for the upgrade
[00:44] <knome> xubuntu447, you shouldn't edit the file manually for the upgrade
[00:44] <knome> xubuntu447, if you have done that, you might have broken something by doing that
[00:45] <xubuntu447> well I have added some stuff for zfs
[00:45] <endo> If you do anything manually these days you break things. Use BSD if you want to do that.
[00:45] <Unit193> !uefi
[00:45] <endo> I have an mSATA SSD coming in the mail tomorrow night, or the morning after that. Maybe I will wait until that arrives to install.
[00:47] <Unit193> endo: I recommend a good backup of Windows, then have at it.
[00:47] <endo> I have backups.
[00:47] <endo> Not current.
[00:47] <endo> So hm
[00:48] <endo> Years ago this stuff used to be fun.
[00:48] <knome> years ago this stuff wasn't this convoluted..
[00:49] <xubuntu447> bummer again :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/7311101/
[00:49] <endo> Whatever it was. LVM and EVMS made it complex with softraid underneath.
[00:50] <xubuntu447> I looked up that error and kept getting google results for a bug, but couldn't figure out what to do
[00:50] <kupo_> no terminal in new whisker menu?
[00:50] <endo> Unit193: Just as well to wait. You can't encrypt your Windows system partition using Truecrypt if installed on EUFI.
[00:51] <endo> I don't want to risk my data at rest.
[00:51] <kupo_> Anyone else not have a terminal in whisker menu or did i goof somehow
[00:52] <Unit193> xubuntu447: ...Well that's fun, did you forcefully remove part of python3?
[00:53] <xubuntu447> uh..... maybe
[00:53] <kupo_> oh. took it out with menu editor on odl menu. fixed
[00:53] <xubuntu447> :)
[00:53] <Unit193> xubuntu447: sudo apt-get install -f  do anything good for you?
[00:53] <xubuntu447> no
[00:53] <cyborgcygnus> formatted a hdd to ext4 & then to btrfs, I can't copy or paste anything to the hdd no matter what format I put it in, can't make new folders in it. Am I supposed to set permissions for myself? No permissions options come up at all upon right clicking the hdd
[00:54] <Unit193> endo: Sounds like a plan, haven't used TC drive encryption for a while since it's windows, but good to know.  Might be on their roadmap even.
[00:54] <Unit193> http://www.truecrypt.org/future Yep.
[00:54] <endo> Unit193: Does Ubuntu 14.04 support nvidia optimus?
[00:55] <Unit193> !info nvidia-prime‎
[00:55] <xubuntu447> oh thank you thank you I got a birthday present today... something I did got my virtual box kernel stuff working again so no I can go back to work with my broke ass system Thanks people.. I'll have to tackle this another day
[00:57] <endo> i think i'm going to just buy a mac
[00:57] <knome> and install xubuntu on it?
[00:57] <knome> ;)
[00:57] <endo> no that would ruin it
[00:58] <knome> subjective;)
[00:58] <xubuntu447> oh I saw that before I left... I install sarge on the the first OSX server "powerpc" and ran samba on it for years... what an awesome machine that was
[00:59] <xubuntu447> definitly buy a mac and put debian on it you'll be so happy with joyness
[00:59] <xubuntu447> ok thanks again by by
[01:00] <cyborgcygnus> The only use for a mac pc would be to put a Free Linux OS Distro on it
[01:00] <maroufi> hi knome
[01:00] <maroufi> hahaha
[01:00] <maroufi> how
[01:00] <maroufi> are you
[01:13] <cyborgcygnus> What was that that software thingy you guys recommended one time to use with zsync to get faster downloads?
[01:23] <cyborgcygnus> What's the go with Thunar? Can't you copy & paste files with it?
[01:28] <krytarik> cyborgcygnus: Why don't you tell us why you think you can't? :P
[01:34] <cyborgcygnus> krytarik, Because I have 4 hdds that I've tried to copy things between each other in the default file browser aka Thunar & when I go into the other hard drives no such option comes up for the paste, I can't make new folders or files in newly formatted hdd's either.
[01:34] <krytarik> cyborgcygnus: That's likely a permissions issue then.
[01:35] <cyborgcygnus> The permissions on the new formatted drive is blanked out when I view it. The other drives say I have permissions.
[01:35] <cyborgcygnus> krytarik, ^
[01:51] <cyborgcygnus> krytarik, any idea on how to give myself permissions on that drive?
[01:52] <krytarik> cyborgcygnus: Are they MS-formatted drives?
[01:52] <krytarik> !fstab | cyborgcygnus
[01:52] <cyborgcygnus> The one I'm trying to set a steam library folder in isn't, the hard drives I'm trying to copy stuff from is.
[01:54] <nomic>  question ... the little notifications when you mouseover panel items, are irritating ... how do I get rid of them on mouseover. Have never figured that out (xubuntu 12.04) http://imgur.com/CbU4An3
[01:55] <krytarik> cyborgcygnus: Is the first one the newly formatted drive where the permissions are "blanked out"?
[01:55] <cyborgcygnus> krytarik, Yep, it says it's owned by the root as well.
[01:55] <krytarik> cyborgcygnus: Yep, exactly. :P
[01:57] <krytarik> nomic: How about this?: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/launcher
[01:58] <oneof3> hello. how do i know if i canmake a copy of a dvd on my notebook?
[02:00] <krytarik> oneof3: You mean like with Xfburn? :P
[02:01] <nomic> thanks!!!
[02:01] <nomic> xfce4-panel --plugin-event launcher:disable-tooltips:bool:true  <- worked
[02:01] <krytarik> Welcome. :)
[02:01] <nomic> was like -- u know -- something gets in the way of something I need to see on the screen.  & I RAGE.
[02:02] <krytarik> lol
[02:07] <oneof3> if my hardware cna burn cd cna it copy and burn one?
[02:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> It should
[02:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> Dunno about the copyright protection though
[02:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> Might have issues there
[02:08] <oneof3> ill try ty
[02:42] <oneof3> looking for xfburn
[02:43] <oneof3> is there command to launch it?
[02:43] <krytarik> oneof3: It's a GUI tool. :)
[02:44] <oneof3> under multimedia, got it
[02:46] <oneof3> is it pretty simple to just pop in a dvd, copy it contents to another dvd
[02:46] <oneof3> is the dvd drive under filesystem or home?
[03:19] <Kekai> Is there a way I can download the Disk app to check my HDD for errors
[03:21] <Unit193> !info gnome-disks
[03:21] <Kekai> ahh
[03:21] <Unit193> gnome-disk-utility
[03:21] <Kekai> !info gnome-disk-utility
[06:54] <Vyrlokar> Heya, what's the status of hybrid graphics on Xubuntu 14.04? I ask because I do have to install it on an nVidia Optimus muxless laptop, installed with nomodeset, installed proprietary drivers, and rebooted without nomodeset, and it still blackscreens
[07:09] <p1ro> Vyrlokar,  i read it was working fine
[07:09] <p1ro> google for it
[07:10] <koegs> maybe this info helps: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[07:10] <Vyrlokar> p1ro: I'm doing so, it's a clean install to a separate partition
[07:10] <p1ro> if i remember well it was ati/intel
[07:10] <Vyrlokar> I'm trying to use the officially supported by nVidia Nvidia Prime system, I got it working with bumblebee in another partition under 13.10
[07:14] <Vyrlokar> Since the computer is for a non-technical user, I need to make it so he can run with the discrete card without having to summon the command line for opti/primus-run
[07:24] <phm-grand_jct> anyone know where to get the package transcode2vob for Brasero?
[07:24] <phm-grand_jct> I am having extreme difficulties burning dvds for a tv
[07:25] <phm-grand_jct> I tried ImgBurn, having created the ISO with DVDStyler - no good
[07:25] <phm-grand_jct> Tried Brasero, using same image - no good
[07:25] <phm-grand_jct> Noticed missing plugins, now trying to find TRANSCODE2VOB
[07:25] <phm-grand_jct> google turns up very little
[07:26] <cfhowlett> !info transcode2vob
[07:26] <bazhang> !info devede
[07:27] <bazhang> why not use devede phm-grand_jct
[07:27] <phm-grand_jct> Tried it first
[07:27] <phm-grand_jct> on 13.10
[07:27] <bazhang> and?
[07:27] <phm-grand_jct> Gonna try it again
[07:28] <phm-grand_jct> On my last attempt, dvdauthor was not installed
[07:28] <bazhang> how old is the tv
[07:29] <phm-grand_jct> the player is fairly old, maybe 5+ years
[07:29] <bazhang> the tv
[07:30] <phm-grand_jct> it's separate
[07:30] <phm-grand_jct> trying devede now
[07:30] <bazhang> how old
[07:30] <phm-grand_jct> very old, but the tv is not throwing the error
[07:30] <phm-grand_jct> it's displaying everyting from the dvd player
[07:30] <bazhang> no hdmi then
[07:31] <phm-grand_jct> right, nor ability for google tv
[07:31] <phm-grand_jct> had an xbox and was using minidlna for awhile
[07:31] <bazhang> ok
[08:23] <anarchee> hi all
[08:26] <Rainwave> Xubuntu 14.04 upgraded from 13.10 on a laptop; when I plug and unplug a keyboard (to move to a meeting/etc) Xubuntu forgets my keyboard repeat rate for the external keyboard.
[08:26] <Rainwave> Any ideas/known issues?
[08:27] <Rainwave> Easily reproducible bug
[08:32] <delt> question, how do i clear an iptables rule after i set it?
[08:33] <delt> (without rebooting)
[08:49] <delt> found it. i can just specify the same rule but with -D instead of, say -I for insert
[09:14] <xubuntu329> Hello Xubuntu world, Does anybody what the good keyboard code when I install Xubuntu on a IBM laptop G40, US international with dead keys is not good, @key is not above key 2, See some info, Spidey-Westland
[09:15] <bekks> xubuntu329: Depends on the keyboard layout of your laptop.
[09:16] <Rainwave> traditional Thinkpad: http://www.saigontek.ca/laptop/Large/IBM%20G40-B.jpg
[09:17] <Rainwave> assuming he has the US versioj
[09:18] <xubuntu329> Howdy Rainwave, the *.jpg is not so as the keyborad on my laptop, I think that this is a US version
[09:20] <Rainwave> the JPG I linked *is* the US version
[09:20] <bekks> xubuntu329: is it an QWERTZ, QWERTY or an AZERTY keyboard?
[09:20] <Rainwave> I have to get going, good luck
[09:22] <xubuntu329> @bekks, the keyboard is qwert, but on key2 see I "2 and little 2
[09:22] <bekks> xubuntu329: qwerty or qwertz?
[09:22] <xubuntu329> qwerty
[09:23] <xubuntu419> Hi! I have problems wtih menulibre on xubuntu 14.04 lts. When I add folder to menulibre I don't get it in my Whisker menu.
[09:25] <bekks> xubuntu329: try identifying your keyboard here: http://www.terena.org/activities/multiling/ml-mua/test/kbd-all.html
[09:27] <xubuntu329> @xubuntu419, I see this not, but my laptop chrashed, I restart with recorvery and after this I hit in "startx" now I can reastrat the laptop with my ID
[09:30] <xubuntu419> xubuntu329, I am not sure what you are saying
[09:31] <phm-grand_jct> well, devede did not work either
[09:31] <phm-grand_jct> but it may have been because it was formatting in PAL
[09:31] <phm-grand_jct> so i am trying with NTSC and see if that works
[09:35] <xubuntu329> go to down, searching for another info of my keyboard.
[09:48] <Mopsie> Hi,  I was here yesterday asking a question about the WhiskerMenu in Xubuntu 14.04.  I am trying to edit the WhiskerMenu > System so that it displays things like About Me and System Updater.  It was sugested to remove all the categories and just add system, but this then removes the icons from the System Screen.  Any idea how I can have a link in both the menu and on the system screen?
[10:11] <bluesabre> hey Mopsie, You can create a second launcher to "/usr/bin/mugshot" with different categories.
[11:34] <haos> linux newb here - if i have several apps compiled from source and few installed from repositories on my xubuntu 13.10 is it safe to upgrade to 14.10?
[11:35] <haos> i mean - will the apps stay unchanged or i will need to compile/install them again?
[11:35] <haos> *upgrade to 14.04
[11:38] <haos> for example - these apps rely on qt4/5 and i see libqt5core5 will be removed and libqt5core5a will be installed - will this have any impact on the already compiled/installed apps?4
[11:40] <knome> haos, should not, but if they are applications that aren't in the repositories, and you want to be sure, check their websites
[11:42] <xubuntu411> After I upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 some of my programs won't display when I start them, recently vlc for example, while mostly the other stuff works fine. Can someone help me troubleshoot?
[11:47] <haos> ty knome
[11:49] <diegows> hi
[11:50] <diegows> I've touched a combination of keys that I don't know and now I have the display with an effect of zoom in :P
[11:50] <diegows> fixed
[11:51] <diegows> alt+scrool whell :P
[11:57] <xubuntu411> Anyone can help me troubleshoot? Having problem after upgrading from 13.10 to 14.04
[11:58] <bekks> xubuntu411: Not unless you tell us about your actual problem.
[11:59] <xubuntu411> bekks: Programs like eclipse and vlc doesn't work anymore, I have tried reinstalling but doesn't work either.
[11:59] <xubuntu411> bekks: I tried using software center, via terminal and as well downloading from website and doing it manually.
[11:59] <bekks> xubuntu411: Startthem in terminal to see the actual error message.
[12:00] <xubuntu411> bekks: There is no error message. For eclipse I see the logo but nothing happens after that. No information given in terminal
[12:02] <draches> Are there known bugs in xubuntu 14.04 related to suspending and power management in general? I'm having erratic troubles when returning from suspend or even from a lock screen. Still trying to pinpoint them to ask a more specific question but maybe someone can already know something about it. cheers
[12:03] <bekks> xubuntu411: Which java version do you use?
[12:03] <xubuntu411> bekks: I force kill eclipse and I get this error msg
[12:03] <xubuntu411> bekks: 7
[12:04] <draches> xubuntu411, open the program from the terminal (open a terminal and type 'vlc' or 'eclipse') to see any errors that might pop up.
[12:05] <xubuntu411> draches: I did and I dont see error, only when I force cancel it with ctrl c
[12:05] <bekks> xubuntu411: Which java version do you use?
[12:05] <xubuntu411> draches: something about corrupted double-linked java list : 0x0
[12:05] <bekks> xubuntu411: 7 what?
[12:07] <xubuntu411> bekks: open jdk 7 something, how can I see it? I know it was latest when it worked before I upgraded to 14.04
[12:07] <xubuntu411> bekks: and that was 1 day ago
[12:07] <bekks> xubuntu411: dpkg -l | grep jdk
[12:09] <xubuntu411> 2:1.7-51
[12:11] <bekks> xubuntu411: I'd use the Oracle JDK instead.
[12:12] <xubuntu411> bekks: This is the error I get after I close eclipse: http://pastebin.com/WC1T1mjR
[12:12] <bekks> xubuntu411: Those errors are the reason for not using openjdk ;)
[12:14] <xubuntu411> bekks: Alright, I guess I will switch then... But then there's vlc which doesn't work either.
[12:14] <bekks> xubuntu411: then start it in terminal and look out for the error.
[12:15] <xubuntu411> bekks: I start it in terminal but I see no error here either, its visible in the panel but doesnt display on any screen
[12:16] <xubuntu411> bekks: http://pastebin.com/8bfy0nSr
[12:17] <xubuntu411> bekks: That is all it says when I run it from terminal
[13:10] <starrats> just installed the release version of 14.04, hoping there was no freeze at start-up and there was unfortunately, a nick here said I might need updated driver for this problem,
[13:10] <starrats> using AMD Radeon Graphics
[13:11] <starrats> what driver do you recommend?  anyone
[13:13] <bekks> which graphics chipset exactly do you have?
[13:14] <starrats> bekks is there a way on term to let me know this info?
[13:15] <bekks> lspci will tell you.
[13:15] <starrats> ah ok
[13:17] <starrats> it's a Radeon HD 6480G
[13:19] <starrats> when I went to Settings Manager and hit the Drivers button it came back that my driver was the best
[13:19] <starrats> or most current
[13:20] <starrats> the nick that told me about an update also mentioned something about 'restricted drivers'?
[13:20] <bekks> !ati | starrats
[13:21] <starrats> ah okay will do, thanks bekks
[13:30] <sonne> greetings!
[13:30] <starrats> bekks:  I'm using the best driver available thru the Addtional Drivers tab/box in Settings Manager, so there must something else wrong
[13:30] <sonne> i just updated to 14.04 and everything seems to work fine, except that the indicator applet crashes instantly leaving orphan processes
[13:31] <sonne> also, for some reason, some of its icons are now incorporated in the notification area (e.g. network and bluetooth), but the volume is not, which is pretty much the only thing i cared about
[13:31] <sonne> any hints?
[13:32] <sonne> another interesting fact is that while i'm in the panel settings i can add the indicator applet and it works just fine, but as soon as i'm happy and close the settings window the applet crashes again :|
[14:35] <olympus> can't get dvd to boot on my Acer.  Stalls during the boot process.
[14:39] <olympus> should add that it is a 14.04 release and it does load, wonder of wonders, on a Lenovo G505 with efi.
[14:52] <SunilJoshi> Good looking theme and icon for Xubuntu14.04, suggestions please?
[14:53] <koegs> Numix + Numix Icon Theme
[14:55] <SunilJoshi> any more suggestions :) ?
[14:55] <SunilJoshi> koegs: i donot have numix icon theme
[14:55] <SunilJoshi> :(
[14:55] <SunilJoshi> do you installted it separately?
[14:55] <koegs> https://launchpad.net/~numix/+archive/ppa
[14:55] <koegs> ceti is also nice http://horst3180.deviantart.com/art/Ceti-445892596
[14:56]  * SunilJoshi checking..
[14:57] <SunilJoshi> that looks good :)
[15:22] <laaaa> guys, does anybody here have some kind of exp with running compilers on symbian devices?
[15:31] <mapp> LOLS
[15:31] <mapp> my referred order went through leaving me with 2
[15:31] <mapp> what a mess
[17:29] <fortuneHuntr> what is the proper way to make ip rules and ip routes persistent in xubuntu?
[17:31] <nhoj> fortuneHuntr, Settings Manager -> Network or Network Connections may help you
[17:32] <fortuneHuntr> nhoj, but how through cli
[17:33] <fortuneHuntr> nhoj, and what is the proper way - i can obviously put my commands in rc.local, but i don't think that is correct.
[17:33] <GridCube> nhoj, what seems to be the problem?
[17:33] <nhoj> fortuneHuntr, utilities are available and config files can be edited in /etc/
[17:35] <fortuneHuntr> ip route add default via 192.168.71.1 table 1
[17:35] <fortuneHuntr> ip route add 192.168.71.0/24 table 1 dev eth0 scope link
[17:35] <fortuneHuntr> ip rule add fwmark 1 table 1
[17:35] <fortuneHuntr> i cannot put those in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 can i?
[17:36] <nhoj> fortuneHuntr, so, where to put those commands is the question, right.  Someone may be able to help you with this but not me
[17:36] <fortuneHuntr> nhoj, yes, that is the question
[17:37] <fortuneHuntr> i know there are a couple places to put them, but what is the correct place?
[17:39] <nhoj> it might be interesting, enticing even, if one was to put the output of infconfig in http://paste.ubuntu.com and post the url here. ;)
[17:39] <nhoj> that is after you have your config commands executed.
[17:41] <nhoj> fortuneHuntr, the system is based on ubuntu.  There may be some network geeks over in #unbuntu who would also be interested.
[17:59] <monkeynaut> i found a (very minor) bug.  do i report it here:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[17:59] <monkeynaut> or is that not meant for Xubuntu bugs
[18:00] <elfy> monkeynaut: that is the right place
[18:00] <monkeynaut> thanks
[18:07] <draches> is anyone else having trouble with the new lockscreen in xubuntu 14.04?
[18:08] <draches> sometimes it doesn't lock when I press the key combination, and then I press it again and apparently everything just freezes in place :S
[18:10] <brainwash> so it does not only lock the screen, it even locks your system :)
[18:10] <draches> yes u_u
[18:10] <brainwash> you could try and run the lock command manually in a terminal window
[18:11] <brainwash> light-locker-command -l
[18:11] <brainwash> maybe it will generate some output
[18:11] <draches> okay
[18:14] <draches> ugh this is a terrible laptop or I'm having a bad day.. it just got stuck and it's spamming 't' on the terminal
[18:14] <draches> don't buy asus laptops u_u
[18:21] <hylian> I'm loving Xubuntu 14.04! Thanks Xubuntu people!
[19:42] <hehe_ok> what is new in 14?
[19:43] <nhoj> xubuntu.org/news/14-04-release/
[19:44] <hehe_ok> nhoj: is it snappy ?
[19:45] <hehe_ok> in comparison with 13.10
[19:45] <p1ro> ohh yo nhoj
[19:45] <p1ro> btw im already using 14 :p
[19:46] <nhoj> hehe_ok, on my computer I can't say I can tell the difference from 13.10 -- many improvements I think
[19:46] <hehe_ok> p1ro: I see how is it so far ? Is it good with ati graphics ?
[19:46] <nhoj> p1ro, yo yoself eh
[19:46] <p1ro> hahahaha
[19:47] <p1ro> hehe_ok, well i have an old x200 integrate card
[19:47] <p1ro> cant tell how good its is
[19:47] <p1ro> i feel the same
[19:47] <hehe_ok> nhoj: I see
[19:47] <hehe_ok> I think 14 is well tuned
[19:48] <nhoj> yes
[19:48] <p1ro> i have no big problems so far
[19:48] <hehe_ok> guys I want to know about the codecs i need to install for videos
[19:48] <p1ro> vlc!
[19:48] <hehe_ok> p1ro: what about the small problems ?
[19:48] <hehe_ok> p1ro: just install vlc would do ?
[19:48] <p1ro> hehe_ok, course
[19:48] <p1ro> open any vids
[19:49] <hehe_ok> p1ro: but on my graphics card hd 6290 laptop
[19:49] <hehe_ok> vlc sucks
[19:49] <p1ro> and if im not wrong for old times mplayer will do same
[19:49] <hehe_ok> smplayer with non-free installed = boom
[19:49] <larrypg> hehe_ok, might want to install xubuntu-restricted-extras if you have not already
[19:50] <hehe_ok> p1ro: on my laptop only alt linux + smplayer = Awesome, everything else sucks
[19:50] <hehe_ok> larrypg: how ?
[19:50] <elfy> can you take the chat to -offtopic and just do the support in here please
[19:50] <larrypg> hehe_ok, apt-get install
[19:51] <hehe_ok> I am asking for support only
[19:51] <hehe_ok> I want to run videos but it would run well
[19:51] <p1ro> hehe_ok, you cant blame stuff cuz ur laptop suck at it
[19:51] <p1ro> thats kinda .....
[19:51] <p1ro> vlc runs well on my x200
[19:51] <p1ro> is OLD
[19:51] <p1ro> im unsing ppa
[19:52] <p1ro> sorry elfy
[19:53] <hehe_ok> p1ro: I think i need prop. drivers then cuz opensource sucks for at i
[20:55] <DomiX> hi, I'm trying to do an apt-get upgrade but it fails downloading some files, the weird thing is I can download theses files from firefox http://pastebin.com/0ZdLmrgc
[21:30] <woteva> hi, congrats for new release. i really like the menu
[21:30] <woteva> btw why do i still get xdg error when moving around files using thunar?
[22:18] <cyborgcygnus> Trying to remember how I changed the keyboard shortcut from CTRL + Alt + D to just Super + D for going to the desktop. Anyone know where I can change this? It's not in the keyboard shortcuts.
[22:20] <krytarik> cyborgcygnus: It's in "Settings Manager -> Window Manager -> Keyboard".
[22:20] <brainwash_> cyborgcygnus: settings manager > window manager
[22:21] <cyborgcygnus> Cheers, I literally just found it when you both replied.
[22:54] <theLadder> hi, i'm tyring to create a pogram launcher icon in my panel that runs this command:
[22:54] <theLadder> bash -c 'printf T%d "$(($(date +%s)+3600))" > /dev/ttyACM0'
[22:55] <theLadder> but it doesn't work, it only sends "T", not the numbers, any ideas?
[23:02] <lazar> guys, can someone tell me where can i download xulrunner-1.9.2-deiv
[23:02] <lazar> ?
[23:02] <lazar> div*
[23:04] <knome> err, what do you need it for and who tells you to get it?
[23:16] <kingplusplus> please how do i get my keyboard back to uk? After upgrading i found a keyboard icon in the tray area which happen to change my keyboard to US. click its preferences does nothing any help
[23:17] <knome> kingplusplus, have you read the release notes?
[23:18] <kingplusplus> knome: release note for ubuntu 14.04?
[23:18] <knome> kingplusplus, no, for xubuntu 14.04
[23:18] <kingplusplus> knome, let me check
[23:21] <kingplusplus> knome, thank,s i see that many people are complaining... but seems there is not solution for this error yet
[23:23] <knome> kingplusplus, are you sure you read the release *notes*?
[23:23] <knome> kingplusplus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu
[23:24] <knome> kingplusplus, "If you are upgrading to 14.04 from a current version in which IBus is still installed but unused - you will need to either set-up IBus for your keyboard layout after rebooting or purge it. Alternatively purge IBus before upgrading."
[23:31] <theLadder> i tested xubuntu 14.04, but when i change my resolution to 1920*1080 it works for 2 seconds, then my computer crashes and reboots, would this be the right place to ask for help?
[23:32] <kupo_> hmm working fine with same resoulation here
[23:32] <theLadder> i don't have that problem with xubuntu 13.10
[23:32] <kupo_> updated kernel to 13.4 too
[23:34] <kupo_> i did have the problem on my 24 inch tv though
[23:34] <kupo_> when i updated kernel to 13.4. but been fine on new tv
[23:34] <kupo_> guessing you didnt update kernel though
[23:35] <theLadder> do i just run the update thingy in the settings menu to update kernel?
[23:36] <theLadder> oh, so you did have problems after updating the kernel?
[23:38] <kupo_> try out upubuntu.com
[23:38] <kupo_> that's how i do it. very simple command steps they give
[23:39] <theLadder> thanks
[23:45] <mtlsj> yo
[23:45] <mtlsj> where can I find the folder for xfce?