| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 08:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Laney | lut | 08:03 |
| seb128 | Laney, hey, wie gehts? | 08:03 |
| Laney | hey seb128, sehr gut, danke! | 08:04 |
| Laney | und dir? | 08:05 |
| seb128 | Laney, larsu, desrt: good news for you, robert_ancell seems to have decided he was going to fix those nautilus bugs, he did SRU a segfault fix already and is looking at the bookmark one now (from launchpad comments) | 08:05 |
| Laney | nice | 08:05 |
| seb128 | Laney, très bien merci ;-) | 08:05 |
| Laney | prima! | 08:05 |
| larsu | awesome, thanks! | 08:05 |
| larsu | hi Laney | 08:05 |
| Laney | hola larsu, ¿cómo estás? | 08:08 |
| larsu | Laney: muy bien, gracias! (thanks for getting me in the mood for my Spanish class tonight) | 08:09 |
| Laney | maracas! | 08:09 |
| * didrocks is upset about chromium loosing my tabs | 08:09 | |
| didrocks | it doesn't seem to be something reported on launchpad though | 08:09 |
| didrocks | (it looses silently *some* tabs, not all) | 08:10 |
| * didrocks switched since yesterday to chrome unstable which is better in that regard | 08:10 | |
| didrocks | (and yeah, all extensions disabled) | 08:10 |
| didrocks | let's see once qengho is around | 08:10 |
| mpt | seb128, mdeslaur: I was under the impression that Gnome made PolicyKit dialogs system-modal because that was the only way to ensure other programs weren’t listening to the keypresses. I might be wrong about that, though. | 10:06 |
| mpt | If so, though, my POV is that if you have a password-sniffing program running on your PC you’ve already lost. My online banking password is more important than my login password, for example, and browsers don’t go system-modal whenever they see <input type="password"> in an HTTPS page. | 10:08 |
| mlankhorst | well I found 2 or 3 bugs related to xserver switching now, fun! :P | 10:27 |
| mlankhorst | hm make that 4 | 10:45 |
| mlankhorst | well, 5 but I haven't been able to reproduce the 5th one a second time | 10:46 |
| chrisccoulson | is anybody else able to adjust their laptop panel brightness in trusty? | 10:49 |
| chrisccoulson | the slider in the control centre does nothing here | 10:49 |
| chrisccoulson | and pressing the buttons on my laptop seems to work with around a 1-minute lag :/ | 10:51 |
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| Mirv | chrisccoulson: works fine here, on sandybridge | 11:14 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you have an opinion on SRUing the gstreamer point release bugfix updates to trusty? | 11:32 |
| xnox | seb128: is there a way for me to launch qt5 ubuntu-one setup page? | 11:34 |
| seb128 | xnox, what is "qt5 ubuntu-one setup page"? | 11:34 |
| Laney | seb128: Probably worth it | 11:34 |
| Laney | The fixes sound important | 11:34 |
| seb128 | Laney, k, I'm going to have a look to gst/base to start | 11:34 |
| xnox | seb128: sorry, system-settings, online accounts, ubuntu one plugin page. | 11:35 |
| Laney | the synced ones should be easy | 11:35 |
| seb128 | right | 11:35 |
| xnox | seb128: launch on the desktop (possibly stand alone), it works on the phone, but failing to launch it on the desktop | 11:35 |
| Mirv | I was hit by bug #1290368 to the extent I switched my shotwell hack from totem to ffmpegthumbnailer | 11:35 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1290368 in gst-libav1.0 (Ubuntu) "totem-video-thumbnailer crashed with SIGSEGV in magazine_chain_pop_head()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290368 | 11:35 |
| Laney | just take them and change the version | 11:35 |
| Mirv | but I think it also occured when nautilus thumbnails | 11:35 |
| Laney | yes, it's the same program | 11:36 |
| seb128 | Laney, right, I reading debdiff and I'm going to test build/run a bit first | 11:36 |
| Laney | can you reproduce it? | 11:36 |
| Laney | if so, debugging would be nice | 11:36 |
| seb128 | talk to tjaalton maybe, I think he's looking after gst-libav | 11:36 |
| seb128 | that's not something we install by default btw | 11:36 |
| Mirv | I'll try on my work laptop, I can probably at least provide a 0.1 second video from my camera if that's what triggers it (the format) | 11:36 |
| Laney | try running the program manually on it | 11:37 |
| seb128 | xnox, dunno, check with mardy maybe ... doing "system-settings online-accounts" work, but I'm unsure about opening directly a specific account in there | 11:38 |
| tjaalton | haven't touched gst-libav.. | 11:38 |
| Laney | deny all knowledge | 11:39 |
| * xnox ponders if i happen to be TIL | 11:39 | |
| tjaalton | but it's probably same as debian 739579 | 11:39 |
| ubot2 | Debian bug 739579 in gst-libav1.0 "gstreamer1.0: totem crashes while seeking" [Important,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/739579 | 11:39 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, sorry, I'm probably confused, I though you had interest in it/looked at it before | 11:39 |
| Mirv | ok it was not as easy as "any file" | 11:40 |
| xnox | yeah, not me. However Laney does have a change in the TIL =) | 11:40 |
| tjaalton | seb128: it was -vaapi | 11:40 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, oh, right, thanks for correcting me ;-) | 11:40 |
| tjaalton | :) | 11:40 |
| Mirv | oh, yes it is, indeed seeking a h.264 file. there was just this another bug I noticed on my desktop computer that if I've gstreamer1.0-vaapi installed GStreamer thinks it doesn't have anything to play h.264 with | 11:42 |
| Mirv | yep, totem-video-thumbnailer -r 00017_2.MTS -t 1 out.png | 11:44 |
| Mirv | putting a clip of cat video to LP | 11:44 |
| Mirv | and not so easy, if I switch the container format so that I can get a small clip out of it, it doesn't crash anymore. so, shooting a new clip instead of using an old one | 11:52 |
| seb128 | Mirv, opening the bug upstream would be nice | 11:52 |
| Mirv | well it sounds like it could be fixed in that new release in Debian, which I'm testing now | 11:57 |
| Mirv | so https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gst-libav1.0/+bug/1290368/+attachment/4095344/+files/00004.MTS is a shortish example that crashes when seeked | 11:58 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1290368 in gst-libav1.0 (Ubuntu) "totem-video-thumbnailer crashed with SIGSEGV in magazine_chain_pop_head()" [Medium,Confirmed] | 11:58 |
| Mirv | yep, 1.2.4 from Debian fixed the issue | 12:03 |
| seb128 | Mirv, 1.2.4 of what source? | 12:03 |
| Laney | libav | 12:03 |
| Laney | gst- | 12:03 |
| seb128 | k | 12:03 |
| seb128 | who wants to SRU that one? ;-) | 12:04 |
| Mirv | that | 12:04 |
| seb128 | I just uploaded gst/base to the desktop ppa for testing btw | 12:04 |
| seb128 | 1.2.4 of those I mean | 12:04 |
| Mirv | I SRUfied the bug description for now. I guess 1.2.4-1 will need to be autosynced to utopic first. | 12:08 |
| Laney | It can be uploaded first | 12:08 |
| Laney | I'll look at the rest of gst later if nobody else wants to | 12:08 |
| seb128 | Laney, if you want to do those that would be welcome | 12:15 |
| Laney | nod | 12:16 |
| xnox | seb128: hm $ system-settings online-accounts -> click add account -> click ubuntu one -> empty screen | 12:19 |
| seb128 | xnox, talk to kenvandine or mardy, I've nothing to do with online accounts | 12:20 |
| xnox | seb128: ok. thanks. | 12:21 |
| Laney | interesting, that doesn't list all of the same things that the u-c-c panel lists | 12:21 |
| Laney | like SIP says empathy there but not in u-s-s | 12:22 |
| Laney | if you click on an existing account that is | 12:22 |
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| seb128 | hum, launchpad having issues? | 12:46 |
| Laney | My grab-merge isn't grabbing the merge | 12:47 |
| Laney | so maybe ... | 12:47 |
| Laney | it's a sign | 12:47 |
| * Laney → lunch | 12:47 | |
| xnox | Laney: yeah #is-outage is starting to heat up. | 12:49 |
| qengho | didrocks: "losing your tabs"? | 13:12 |
| didrocks | qengho: loosing* | 13:13 |
| didrocks | qengho: basically, if I quit chromium (and the notify) | 13:13 |
| didrocks | restarts it | 13:13 |
| didrocks | I can get from 17 tabs | 13:13 |
| didrocks | to 15, or even 2! | 13:13 |
| didrocks | it looses randomly some tabs on restart | 13:13 |
| didrocks | I disabled all extensions to ensure it's not the source of it | 13:14 |
| didrocks | and I can still reproduce it | 13:14 |
| didrocks | no issue with chrome unstable FYI | 13:14 |
| didrocks | from what I got popey also heard about that | 13:14 |
| popey | chromium 24 is a big step backwards | 13:15 |
| popey | you can't even horizontal scroll | 13:15 |
| popey | (worked in previous versions) | 13:15 |
| popey | https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=338604 | 13:15 |
| seb128 | popey, talk to qengho | 13:16 |
| popey | hello qengho | 13:16 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, hey, do you remember https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libspectre/+bug/1242678? | 13:16 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1242678 in libspectre (Ubuntu Trusty) "evince cannot render some EPS files" [High,Triaged] | 13:16 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, do you think you could/test the patch in https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76450? that would be a nice one to backport to our package | 13:17 |
| ubot2 | Freedesktop bug 76450 in general "Documents are not rotated correctly" [Normal,New] | 13:17 |
| qengho | didrocks: Hrm. Let's debug that. | 13:22 |
| qengho | didrocks: Let's go to #ubuntu-chromium so we don't bore these folks. | 13:22 |
| qengho | popey: horizontal scroll is on my to-do list. | 13:23 |
| bjsnider | pitti: what do you think about adding gdm to the systemd ppa? the service file lib/systemd/system/gdm.service is being built but not installed so that could be the only change | 13:32 |
| pitti | bjsnider: it probably also needs some dh_systemd_* invocations then | 13:32 |
| pitti | bjsnider: if you have a package, I'm happy to sponsor it to utopic and put it into the PPA (while utopic is frozen) | 13:33 |
| bjsnider | i'm the guinea pig i guess hahaha | 13:34 |
| bjsnider | dh_systemd isn't part of the loop at all at the moment | 13:35 |
| Laney | xnox: oh, what's that? | 13:59 |
| xnox | Laney: DoS or some such against something. | 13:59 |
| xnox | Laney: or do you mean the channel? | 13:59 |
| Laney | people are mean | 13:59 |
| Laney | yes but that's good enough info | 13:59 |
| xnox | Laney: #is-outage is #is with just #is folks talking when dealing with issues. It's like "real-time incident report reality TV show" =) | 14:00 |
| dobey | heh | 14:00 |
| Laney | sounds distracting :P | 14:01 |
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| mlankhorst | just like real reality tv shows! | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | the PerformanceOverlay is simply amazing... that is all :) | 16:05 |
| Laney | what's that | 16:05 |
| kenvandine | developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.04/Ubuntu.PerformanceMetrics.PerformanceOverlay/ | 16:06 |
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| kenvandine | Laney, ^^ although that link doesn't really give it justice :) | 16:06 |
| Laney | yeah ... | 16:06 |
| kenvandine | shows a slick running graph on top of your app | 16:06 |
| kenvandine | showing performance metrics live | 16:06 |
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| Laney | night #ubuntu-desktop | 17:11 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, I will look into it. By the way, who is the maintainer/uploader of libspectre or does Ubuntu only auto-sync? | 17:19 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, thanks, we auto-sync from Debian | 17:20 |
| seb128 | Laney, 'night | 17:20 |
| bjsnider | pitti: i built gdm with modifications that might work, but the ppa doesn't work here -- would you like me to email you the gdm packages so you can test them in your vm? | 17:21 |
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| kenvandine | robru, i've been profiling the friends-app scrolling based on that bug from davmor2 | 17:55 |
| robru | kenvandine, oh yeah? | 17:55 |
| kenvandine | robru, i've stepped back through the stack to the point where i have an empty flickable... no friends-app code at all | 17:56 |
| robru | kenvandine, what kind of profiling tools do we have for qml? I just know python stuff really | 17:56 |
| kenvandine | same performance :/ | 17:56 |
| kenvandine | you can get debug output for object creation timing | 17:56 |
| kenvandine | and we have the slick PerformanceOverlay in the sdk | 17:56 |
| kenvandine | so you can see a pretty graph on top of you app | 17:56 |
| robru | kenvandine, it's not the first time I've heard that qml has poor performance :-/ | 17:56 |
| kenvandine | i don't think that it's really "poor" | 17:57 |
| kenvandine | just while doing the constant movement it uses the cpu | 17:57 |
| kenvandine | it doesn't look bad :) | 17:57 |
| robru | heh | 17:57 |
| kenvandine | at one point Kaleo said we should keep all the timings down below 10ms while it scrolls | 17:57 |
| davmor2 | robru, kenvandine: Yeah 102.2% of the cpu is the bit you missed there ;) | 17:58 |
| kenvandine | and i think i had it down to about 14 | 17:58 |
| kenvandine | but now it's at 17ms | 17:58 |
| kenvandine | but i get the same with an empty flickable | 17:58 |
| robru | davmor2, but apparently it does the same with an empty flickable... ^^ | 17:58 |
| kenvandine | set the contentHeight to 1000 with nothing rendering inside it | 17:58 |
| davmor2 | robru: indeed which I think is even more scary :) | 17:58 |
| kenvandine | and drag it | 17:58 |
| robru | kenvandine, what do you mean by 'timings under 10ms'. timings of what? redraw speed? | 17:58 |
| kenvandine | it runs up over 100% | 17:59 |
| kenvandine | i think it's the total time to create each object | 17:59 |
| kenvandine | and it does that as it scrolls | 17:59 |
| kenvandine | you can increase the cache there | 17:59 |
| robru | ohhhh, object creation times | 17:59 |
| kenvandine | but it doesn't really help | 17:59 |
| kenvandine | it only creates the objects that are on screen | 17:59 |
| robru | right right | 17:59 |
| kenvandine | you can make it buffer more | 17:59 |
| kenvandine | but... | 17:59 |
| kenvandine | when you scroll, it still destroys and creates objects | 18:00 |
| robru | buffering more won't make them load any faster, just... sooner | 18:00 |
| kenvandine | it just does it further away from the view | 18:00 |
| robru | yeah | 18:00 |
| kenvandine | i'm amazed that it takes just as long with an empty flickable | 18:00 |
| robru | yeah, that's awful | 18:00 |
| robru | that can't be right, can it? how can it be just as slow if it's not creating anything? | 18:01 |
| kenvandine | dragging it around and keeping it pegged doesn't actually seem to make it noticably slow down though | 18:01 |
| kenvandine | good question... | 18:01 |
| kenvandine | but the graphs pegs constantly while it's flicking | 18:01 |
| kenvandine | but yeah, it's not creating objects... | 18:01 |
| kenvandine | humm | 18:01 |
| kenvandine | maybe that time isn't just creation | 18:02 |
| kenvandine | but also drawing | 18:02 |
| kenvandine | but regardless of the time that's reported | 18:03 |
| kenvandine | it does peg the cpu | 18:03 |
| kenvandine | with no contents | 18:03 |
| robru | yeah | 18:03 |
| kenvandine | now i wish i had started with an empty flickable :) | 18:04 |
| kenvandine | it took a long time to step backward from friends-app :) | 18:04 |
| robru | kenvandine, you should have bisected! | 18:04 |
| robru | ;-) | 18:04 |
| kenvandine | yeah... those tiles are so complex, i just assumed it had to do with anchoring and sizing stuff | 18:05 |
| robru | yeah, it seems reasonable to me. also because when I tried to reproduce this with calendar-app, it only went 50% CPU, not 102%. so I wonder if maybe they do something differently that's more efficient | 18:05 |
| kenvandine | interesting... i hadn't thought about that | 18:06 |
| kenvandine | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7324148/ | 18:12 |
| kenvandine | robru, you can try that out | 18:12 |
| kenvandine | drag around in the black part of the left side of the screen | 18:12 |
| kenvandine | and watch top | 18:12 |
| robru | ok, one sec | 18:13 |
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| robru | kenvandine, on my desktop, yeah, I see that consistently at 17ms | 18:28 |
| robru | trying on phone... | 18:28 |
| robru | kenvandine, hrm, how would I launch a simple qml file on the phone? qmlscene doesn't seem to do it | 18:29 |
| kenvandine | robru, build a click out of it | 18:36 |
| kenvandine | i didn't try on my phone | 18:36 |
| kenvandine | but comparing the test to friends-app on my desktop | 18:37 |
| kenvandine | they are about the same | 18:37 |
| kenvandine | so apples to apples :) | 18:37 |
| robru | ugh, I have to make a whole click? I can't just trick upstart-app-launch into running a qml file directly? | 18:37 |
| kenvandine | nope, needs to be registered with click for upstart to find it | 18:37 |
| kenvandine | want me to create one? | 18:37 |
| robru | kenvandine, yeah, it's just that the CPU usage on my quad-core hyperthreaded i7 is like 5% (even for friends-app) so it's tough to say if it's going 102% on the device or not without testing on the device ;-) | 18:37 |
| robru | kenvandine, if you can, please. I'm not sure how | 18:38 |
| kenvandine | on my dual core 2.93G desktop it goes over 100% | 18:38 |
| robru | kenvandine, oh, I get 30%, excuse me | 18:39 |
| robru | kenvandine, actually your pastebin gets me 8% CPU while friends-app does 30%, so I guess there is something in friends-app... | 18:40 |
| kenvandine | http://ubuntuone.com/4WQ1nkDWYxMyJ03NyMmc8N | 18:43 |
| kenvandine | robru, friends-app does do quite a bit more, so makes sense for it to go higher | 18:43 |
| kenvandine | i guess for me it's hard to go much higher than 100% :) | 18:44 |
| robru | right, but the point is that it goes to 100% on the device when other apps don't ;-) | 18:45 |
| robru | ok, I managed to install that click, thanks, how do I run it? it's not in the app list ;-) | 18:45 |
| kenvandine | search | 18:46 |
| kenvandine | it'll show up | 18:46 |
| kenvandine | interesting | 18:46 |
| robru | doesn't show up under "ken" or "listview" | 18:46 |
| kenvandine | that performs way better | 18:46 |
| kenvandine | i search for "lis" | 18:47 |
| kenvandine | and it showed up | 18:47 |
| kenvandine | you installed with pkcon right? | 18:47 |
| robru | uh "click install *.click" ;-) | 18:47 |
| kenvandine | and not as root or anything | 18:47 |
| robru | perhaps as root ;-) | 18:47 |
| kenvandine | pkcon install-local *.click | 18:47 |
| kenvandine | as phablet | 18:47 |
| robru | oh ok | 18:48 |
| robru | kenvandine, yeah I'm getting 30-50% CPU on device | 18:49 |
| robru | kenvandine, can you try friends-app just with avatar rendering turned off? I wonder if that's doing it | 18:50 |
| robru | kenvandine, as I recall, we had trouble with that in the past ;-) | 18:56 |
| kenvandine | yeah, it's going to make profiling this much more painful | 19:00 |
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