[00:00] <veryhappy> geartrooper: use fdisk /dev/sdx or gparted
[00:00] <geartrooper> I'm installing from a usb stick
[00:00] <kiilo> mmmh
[00:00] <daftykins> geartrooper: 'how' as in how many and what sizes, or?
[00:00] <geartrooper> daftykins I just want the install and swap on a 500gb hd
[00:01] <daftykins> geartrooper: so 'use entire disk' would be fine
[00:01] <geartrooper> ty
[00:01] <daftykins> i'd personally recommend a separate /home, but you don't have to
[00:01] <geartrooper> heh
[00:01] <geartrooper> how would I do that?
[00:01] <daftykins> choose 'something else'
[00:02] <geartrooper> I do, have/ but I am a noob on partitions and don't know what to assign where
[00:02] <daftykins> then create say, a 40GB ext4 / (root), twice your RAM swap (to a max of 4GB) and the rest as /home ext4
[00:02] <geartrooper> ah
[00:02] <veryhappy> geartrooper: you have to make an entry in /etc/fstab with the partition that you want to use as your /home partition
[00:02] <rww> veryhappy: no, you don't. the Ubuntu installer does all that for you
[00:02] <daftykins> veryhappy: your advice is totally wrong for this situation
[00:02] <veryhappy> ok, my bad, sorry
[00:03] <veryhappy> i'm just human :)
[00:03] <DEA7TH> I tried to update to Ubuntu 14, but now it can't boot - I get "error: symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found", and it throws me to grub rescue
[00:03] <geartrooper> theoretically
[00:03] <daftykins> ok, but humans don't let #ubuntu humans do wrong
[00:03] <veryhappy> daftykins: it was my fault, i already excused for that
[00:03] <DEA7TH> also I can't gain access to the boot menu because my hardware sucks
[00:04] <Sockbat> Hi folks. How can I run a command as one of the users, when I am root? opposite of sudo?
[00:04] <veryhappy> sudo username
[00:04] <daftykins> veryhappy: my bad, i forgot the joke ";)" after it :)
[00:04] <Sockbat> oooh ok thanks a lot veryhappy
[00:04] <diecastarts> kiilo, Nevermind thanks for tring I just going to say F it and return to windows and maybe someday used a different distro because sick of ubuntu messing up for no reasons
[00:05] <veryhappy> daftykins: ok, good ;)
[00:05] <kupo_> anyone have sudo apt-get purge pcmanfm
[00:06] <veryhappy> kupo_: what are you trying to do?
[00:06] <kupo_> sorry. neant to type in terminal... but gksu hasnt been working with pcman.  but works fine with thunar.
[00:06] <Sockbat> Veryhappy it works. I need sudo -u username command, but then it works. thanks again!!
[00:06] <kupo_> i'll just use thunar perhaps then
[00:10] <veryhappy> @all: somebody has some doubts towards installing kde on a netbook regarding size of the monitor and space of the hard disk?
[00:10] <kiilo> @diecastarts sorry to hear that - i just tried steam on 14.04 and it runs some games ...
[00:10] <zykotick9> veryhappy: keep in mind, kde is the heaviest of DEs
[00:10] <rww> not particularly
[00:11] <rww> works fine on my netbook
[00:11] <kiilo> but its dosent help you of course
[00:11] <randypfau> Anyone know how to configure hotswapping hard drives via command line?
[00:12] <zykotick9> rww: show me a DE with high requirements then KDE, and I'll retract my statement ;)
[00:12] <rww> zykotick9: define "requirements"
[00:13] <zykotick9> rww: memory/cpu/graphics...
[00:13] <zykotick9> rww: it was more a rehtorical statement ;)
[00:13] <veryhappy> zykotick9: ok, well, gnome wasn't that stable as i wanted it to be, i wanted a replacement but honestly i'd like to have good DE that just let's me do what i want and don't need to much space on the monitor but is easy enough to control
[00:14] <rww> sounds like KDE would be fine, if you like KDE *shrug*
[00:14] <veryhappy> i used KDE for years, then i went to Gnome and it disappointed me
[00:15] <kupo_> i still need to try kde sometime. i just remember it being bloated like crazy and slowly weird
[00:15] <kupo_> but pretty
[00:15] <kupo_> try xubuntu
[00:15] <rww> "bloated like crazy" means what?
[00:15] <lmfao>  then use cinnamon.
[00:15] <kupo_> xfce is always good going
[00:15] <economicallyviab> veryhappy, how minimal do you want it?
[00:15] <kupo_> tons of stuff everywhere
[00:16] <veryhappy> economicallyviab: i want to have easy access to most of the features, to my programs and a program bar
[00:16] <economicallyviab> veryhappy, check out openbox
[00:16] <kupo_> you try xubuntu yet?
[00:16] <rww> zykotick9: memory is irrelevant unless you're running out of it, KDE and say Unity use about the same amount of CPU, and KWin is perfectly happy scaling up or down through the range of graphics cards I have, so... *shrug*
[00:16] <economicallyviab> openbox is probably my favorite WM
[00:17] <veryhappy> a try it's worth it
[00:17] <veryhappy> economicallyviab: you got any other alternative in mind?
[00:17] <economicallyviab> veryhappy, alternative what
[00:17] <lmfao>  use cinnamon desktop in linux mint.
[00:17] <economicallyviab> i was please with cinnamon
[00:18] <economicallyviab> right now i'm on gnome and am liking it
[00:18] <rww> lmfao: we don't do mint here
[00:18] <zykotick9> rww: hey "use whatever you want!" ;)  personally after gnome2 i've returned to fluxbox/openbox - then went tiling awesome->fvwm->awesome(again)...  what works for one person, doesn't work for another (it's great we have choices/options in gnu/linux)
[00:18] <veryhappy> economicallyviab: i wanted to know if you got any other suggestion except openbox that i'm gonna try
[00:18] <economicallyviab> veryhappy, what exactly are you wanting out of your DE
[00:19] <veryhappy> i'm still searching for my perfect DE, means i got to experiment, but most time the same goal like openbox
[00:19] <economicallyviab> one thing i love about Openbox is the ability to bind all sorts of keys
[00:20] <economicallyviab> so super W would be browser
[00:20] <economicallyviab> super F would be file manager
[00:20] <economicallyviab> etc
[00:20] <economicallyviab> very fast
[00:20] <veryhappy> ok
[00:20] <veryhappy> zykotick9: what's good about awesome/fvwm?
[00:20] <eN_Joy> if i do `ufw allow 53`, is it equivalent to do both `ufw allow 53/tcp` and `ufw allow 53/udp`?
[00:21] <economicallyviab> veryhappy, http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=32492   there is a screenshot thread for crunchbang which uses openbox
[00:21] <zykotick9> veryhappy: VERY minimal!  that's number one, then the whole tiling thing.. if you're into that sorta thing.  ;)
[00:21] <economicallyviab> awesome is nice, a little learning curve but very minimal and organized
[00:21] <zykotick9> economicallyviab: s/little/huge/ and i'd agree ;)
[00:22] <rww> eN_Joy: the default if you don't specify tcp or udp is both, yes
[00:23]  * zykotick9 still hates a lot of configures awesome... but does believe it lives up to it's name, with time/patience
[00:23] <mikeche1en> is there any compressed filesystem support in 14.04?
[00:23] <veryhappy> ok, well i don't want my DE to be bloated like hell, minimal is nice, but one should have at least some sort of bar, that's my opinion, and a clock may not be missing, if you're sitting on your computer/notebook/netbook like me (damn computerfreak) and might miss the time
[00:24] <economicallyviab> veryhappy, many people use Tint2 with openbox
[00:24] <economicallyviab> which can have a clock etc
[00:24] <economicallyviab> extremely configurable
[00:24] <economicallyviab> check out crunchbang when you get a chance
[00:24] <economicallyviab> also, LXDE
[00:24] <zykotick9> veryhappy: fyi, awesome does have a clock/calendar - but honestly, i wouldn't recommend awesome to my worst enemy ;)
[00:25] <lmfao>  can i connect ubuntu with bluetooth with smartphone to connect to internet ?
[00:25] <veryhappy> already did try crunchbang, the underlaying system was not my flavor, also tried lxde already
[00:25] <economicallyviab> zykotick9, i remember a few years agoi there was a program i think it was called Pytile
[00:25] <economicallyviab> it was kind of like awesome but was basically just a python script with tiling keybindings
[00:25] <lmfao>  i have nokia5800 xpress music.
[00:26] <economicallyviab> veryhappy, heres a little list for ideas https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/desktop_environment
[00:26] <zykotick9> economicallyviab: i got into the whole tiling thing - late in the game, so don't remember Pytile :(
[00:27] <economicallyviab> zykotick9, here it is http://sourceforge.net/projects/pytile/
[00:27] <veryhappy> economicallyviab: you were an archlinux user?
[00:27]  * zykotick9 finds the arch wiki helpful, regardless of distro used...
[00:28] <economicallyviab> veryhappy, no, but their wiki kicks ass
[00:28] <veryhappy> ok
[00:28] <zykotick9> economicallyviab: +1
[00:28] <veryhappy> i was using arch, but way too much typing for i.e. installing dependencies or programs plus i don't want to compile every optional package i want to use
[00:28] <mikeche1en> anyone know how to set up a compressed filesystem in 14.04? is btrfs the best option now?
[00:29]  * lmfao thinks crux linux is better than archlinux.
[00:29] <economicallyviab> i hear ya veryhappy. thats why i havent used it
[00:29] <economicallyviab> sometimes i just want my comp to work :O
[00:29] <randypfau> I have a newbie question... I have a headless HP Mediasmart EX470 that I installed ubuntu onto. I have SSH access to the machine but I do not have a desktop environment. I was considering running some apps that do not support headless machines (ie. to run XBMC and utillize its uPnP and media scraping services) ... would I look into installing somthing like x? x11vnc server, or somthing of that sort?
[00:29] <zykotick9> economicallyviab: +1 again
[00:29] <builder> howdy partners
[00:29] <veryhappy> what are those +1 for? :D
[00:30] <zykotick9> veryhappy: i agree ;)
[00:30] <veryhappy> ok
[00:30] <rww> maybe he's telling you you need more unicorns in your life
[00:30] <veryhappy> :D
[00:30] <veryhappy> use AOKP on your mobile phone, then you got your unicorn :D
[00:30] <zykotick9> rww: that's a _better_ answer ;)
[00:30] <compdoc> randypfau, you would have to install a desktop of some kind, and I like xrdp
[00:30] <rww> veryhappy: alternatively, https://i.imgur.com/LnjTljO.png
[00:31] <lmfao>  can i connect internet with bluetooth, rww ?
[00:31] <rww> lmfao: no idea
[00:31] <veryhappy> lmfao: you need the service for that
[00:32] <lmfao> what service?
[00:32] <veryhappy> afaik you can use your mobile phone via bluetooth as a modem if that's what you want
[00:33] <veryhappy> it's better to use ubuntu 12.04 due to LTS or should i go on using the latest version?
[00:33] <lmfao> where can i find the settings to connect?
[00:33] <randypfau> compdoc, im kind of confused on the matter. what im trying to do is be able to access my server from a Win7 pc using a ssh client like putty but when I run commands that would bring up a GUI it would show it in a 2nd window. Do you know of a windows client that would do that?
[00:33] <rww> veryhappy: do you want to upgrade every six months or every two years?
[00:34] <zykotick9> veryhappy: IMO!  if you want ubuntu, you usually want the latest packages, but NOT LTS... other may vary in opinion however
[00:34] <zykotick9> s/but NOT/thus NOT/
[00:34] <veryhappy> what support would i have if i would use it?
[00:34] <lmfao> can i install nokia pc suite in ubuntu ?
[00:34] <veryhappy> i mostly just come in those chats here and they are mostly free
[00:35] <randypfau> Im not looking for a full-on VNC, but rather just be able to view a GUI window in a seperate window... is this possible?
[00:35] <rww> veryhappy: #ubuntu supports all released non-end-of-life versions of Ubuntu
[00:35] <rww> so it'll support 14.10 when it's released in October, for example
[00:35] <randypfau> *seperate window other than putty
[00:35] <veryhappy> so do you suggest to upgrade every 6 month?
[00:36] <rww> veryhappy: if you're not sure, I'd stick to 2-year LTS
[00:36] <zykotick9> veryhappy: s/upgrade/fresh install/
[00:36] <mikeche1en> anyone know how to set up filesystem compression in 14.04? is btrfs the best option now?
[00:36] <zykotick9> veryhappy: IMO upgrading ubuntu is crazyness... again, others will have different opinions.
[00:36] <lmfao>  if i cant connect to ubuntu how can i upgrade my old ubuntu ?
[00:37] <veryhappy> ok
[00:37] <veryhappy> i better stick to 12.04
[00:37] <zykotick9> veryhappy: ahhh 14.04 is out...
[00:37] <lmfao> sorry if i cant connect to internet i mean.
[00:37] <zykotick9> veryhappy: MUCH more recent packages...
[00:37] <compdoc> randypfau, it was in 12.04, but for me, its no longer possible with Unity. So, I install Ubuntu Server and then the Mate desktop. The server doesnt boot to desktop so its very fast at booting, but I can open xrdp desktops
[00:38] <veryhappy> zykotick9: means?
[00:38] <economicallyviab> veryhappy, updated kernel etc
[00:38] <zykotick9> veryhappy: if _i_ was to install ubuntu today - it'd use 14.04
[00:38] <zykotick9> veryhappy: which is LTS
[00:39] <veryhappy> then i'll take it
[00:39] <veryhappy> problem is i chose /home as no separate partition due to my limited space on my netbook with dualboot
[00:39] <lmfao>  do you know how to install nokia pc suite,  compdoc?
[00:39] <compdoc> no, never have
[00:40] <geartrooper1> daftykins your partitioning advice worked great.  I feel so confident I am opening a partition shop for wayward partitioners.
[00:40]  * lmfao is disappointed >:|
[00:40] <geartrooper1> daftykins (ty)
[00:41] <veryhappy> is it safe to leave a power supply of a netbook attached in the stack after pulling the power supply out of the netbook?
[00:41] <daftykins> geartrooper1: lol nice
[00:41] <veryhappy> sorry meant socket
[00:41] <lmfao> netbook user ? i am too.
[00:42] <KSM0071> anyone know why kernel upgrade would throw "gave up waiting for root device" error immediatly after boot?
[00:42] <veryhappy> so is it safe to leave the plug in the socket?
[00:42] <veryhappy> or would that consume more power?
[00:43] <Guegs_> Is there a way to put the output of the 'ps -ef' command in a .txt?
[00:43] <zykotick9> veryhappy: not sure what you're asking exactly, but DON'T leave a battery constantly charging!  it will vastly shorten it's life.
[00:43] <zykotick9> Guegs_: ah, "ps -ef > file.txt" perhaps?
[00:45] <veryhappy> zykotick9: that's why i'm asking, i pull the plug from my netbook regularly but can i leave the other plug in the socket/
[00:45] <veryhappy> or do i have to unplug it?
[00:45] <zykotick9> veryhappy: not sure what you're asking?!  but if the battery is charging when you do, whatever you ask, then NO.
[00:46] <lmfao> yeah you should pull out the main plug because smps will constantlt
[00:46] <lmfao> draw power.
[00:47] <zykotick9> veryhappy: with new batteries, discharging/charing doesn't make a differenct (like old ones) BUT, heat is a batteries enemy, so reduce that as much as possible.
[00:47] <veryhappy> hold on, might be a translation problem
[00:48]  * zykotick9 removes batteries from systems, once they are 100% charged
[00:48] <Guegs> Power just went out. x.x
[00:48] <veryhappy> socket plug!
[00:48] <anton02> i upgraded ubuntu 13.10 to 14 since it brought up a dialogue box asking if i would like to and i said yes but now software updates arent working because it says samba has unmet dependencies so i ran apt-get auto and apt-get -f and all that but it didnt fix it. What should I do? http://i.4cdn.org/g/1398293256838.png
[00:48] <veryhappy> that's the word i searched for
[00:48] <Guegs> Knew I should have gotten a UPS.
[00:48] <Bucky21659> A UPS?
[00:48] <Bucky21659> Why not a VPS?
[00:48] <Guegs> Batter backup.
[00:48] <veryhappy> shall i unplug the socket plug after charging?
[00:49] <lmfao> yeah.
[00:49] <zykotick9> Bucky21659: UPS and VPS are not related...
[00:49] <zivester> anyone had horrible batter life after upgrading to 14.04 ? xubuntu here and i get like 2 hours instead of 5
[00:49] <anton02> here is a error message:  libsmbclient : Depends: samba-libs (= 2:4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[00:49] <Bucky21659> Wait UPS wasn't a typo, ok I feel stupid because I have no idea what a UPS is other than United States Postal Service.
[00:49] <rww> Bucky21659: Uninterruptible Power Supply. Basically, a battery with a power outlet that you stick between your computer and the wall outlet
[00:50] <veryhappy> zykotick9: did you understandd now what i mean?
[00:50] <anton02> your face when debian is effectively easier than ubuntu due to having a less off-topic IRC chat
[00:50] <Bucky21659> ahh, so like those special phone cases that make the iPhone's battery life actually bearable.  Thanks for clearing that up, rww
[00:50] <zykotick9> veryhappy: i'm sorry, i don't.
[00:51] <anton02> your face when debian is effectively easier than ubuntu due to having a less off-topic IRC chat
[00:51] <zykotick9> veryhappy: don't leave a battery charging...
[00:51] <Bucky21659> Sorry, it's sort of hard to know that #ubuntu=#ubuntutechsupport
[00:51] <veryhappy> zykotick9: power plug/socket plug http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2007/07/24/plug_sillitoe_2.jpg
[00:51] <anton02> Bucky21659: why?
[00:52] <rww> anton02: it helps that #debian is less active because they split their userbase between two networks
[00:52] <veryhappy> zykotick9: shall i leave the plug in after charging or pull the plug?
[00:52] <Bucky21659> anton02: because it could mean #ubuntugeneraldiscussion
[00:52] <anton02> rww: you should make channel #not-ubuntu
[00:52] <rww> 00:52:30 -!- Topic for #ubuntu: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | [...]
[00:52] <rww> !ot
[00:52] <anton02> rww: like #not-physics
[00:52] <Bucky21659> o cool
[00:52] <lmfao> should pull the plug im an netbook user.
[00:53] <Bucky21659> there's #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:53] <rww> #not-ubuntu would be in the #not-* namespace according to freenode, so wouldn't work
[00:53] <randypfau> anyone know a terminal command that will display connected hard drives?
[00:53] <zykotick9> randypfau: "sudo fdisk -l" or "sudo parted -l" should work
[00:53] <Bucky21659> randypfau: df -h
[00:54] <zykotick9> Bucky21659: that will only show mounted
[00:54] <veryhappy> ok good thansk
[00:55] <randypfau> im having troubles detecting disks.. i dont know if the drivers are present or working. any command that will list unmounted hard drives? or to detect them?
[00:55] <rww> the two zykotick9 mentioned
[00:55] <Bucky21659> Yeah I misunderstood your question, sorry man.
[00:55] <daftykins> randypfau: sudo fdisk -l
[00:56] <veryhappy> it's good to know that one can't ask one single question that would have been fast answered if i would have had the right words without people bitch about that short question that just has to do with the power supply.
[00:56] <veryhappy> anyway, so i'm gonna go and use 14.04 now
[00:56] <zykotick9> daftykins: perhaps you already know, but the problem with fdisk is it doesn't understand GPT parition tables (but would still work in this use case)
[00:56] <veryhappy> i think it's good when i download the minimal version i think
[00:57] <daftykins> zykotick9: i didn't follow the entire convo, but if it is appropriate, why are you calling ME up on it?
[00:58] <veryhappy> ok take care guys, if i still got questions i'm gonna come back here
[00:58] <zykotick9> daftykins: just pointing it out...
[00:58] <veryhappy> see you
[00:58] <daftykins> zykotick9: right, i don't need to be told this. please don't unnecessarily highlight in future, help helpees - don't hinder.
[00:58] <veryhappy> well this time i'm not gonna encrypt my linux
[00:58] <zykotick9> daftykins: ahhh, i this case, i was just trying to "help the helper"... sorry.
[00:59] <GuenterErse> Hey I'm hoping someone can help me. I just updated and now starting a unity session won't do anything. My mouse will go away from a sec and I can't even open a terminal with Ctrl+alt+t
[00:59] <GuenterErse> This is in trusty
[01:01] <GuenterErse> All suggestions welcome
[01:02] <randypfau> i used 'sudo fdisk -l' and my attached hard drive isnt listed... im stumped.. any suggestions
[01:02] <daftykins> reboot
[01:02] <GuenterErse> Any suggestions for me? I've already had to reinstall trusty a couple of times because of ot
[01:02] <GuenterErse> It*
[01:02] <zykotick9> daftykins: that gives me some context
[01:03] <sarita> please look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPWhp_0d8hM
[01:03] <daftykins> zykotick9: can you stop highlighting me now please, i have no idea why you are talking to me.
[01:03] <randypfau> daftykins i have tried rebooting, the drive still does not detect... would 'dmesg' give me an indication as to why the drive isnt detecting?
[01:03] <Rebecca18>  You can find funny videos here. http://j.mp/1gAh6Jy
[01:04] <zykotick9> randypfau: how is the drive connected?
[01:05] <GuenterErse> Nothing?
[01:05] <randypfau> the machine is a HP Mediasmart EX470, its a headless system, and has 4 3.5in SATA drive slots on the front which under Windows Home Server are hot swappable.
[01:05] <lazar> guys, how can i setup simple ssh server
[01:05] <lazar> ?
[01:05] <nith1210> GuenterErse: sorry, it's a hard one to diagnose
[01:05] <rww> lazar: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:05] <lazar> i know
[01:05] <nith1210> GuenterErse: did you install the "Additional drivers" ?
[01:05] <lazar> but how to configure it
[01:06] <lazar> how to make account and something like that
[01:06] <rww> lazar: it works out of the box. what configuration do you want to change?
[01:06] <nith1210> GuenterErse: Also, does "CTRL+ALT+F1" give you a terminal?
[01:06] <rww> lazar: by default it works with existing user accounts on the system
[01:06] <jasabella> hi :) 'm running kubuntu 12.04.4 64-bit and recently installed 4gb of ram, kde only reports 3064 mb of ram available, any ideas what i need to do to have it recognise all 4096 mb?
[01:06] <nith1210> GuenterErse: CTRL+ALT+F7 will bring you back to the gui if it does.
[01:06] <lazar> so i could just connect via client with current login root info?
[01:07] <GuenterErse> I'm thinking it "might" be a video driver issue. I have a gtx 750. The most modern drivers in software center doesn't have it. I installed nvidias 334.20 I think it was
[01:07] <zykotick9> nith1210: fyi, when in a console, it's just alt+f7, ctrl+alt+f? if only required when in xorg
[01:07] <rww> lazar: I think root logins through ssh are disabled by default (and we don't support having a non-locked root account in here anyway), but normal user accounts would work
[01:07] <GuenterErse> And yes, ctlaltf1 will give a term. And I know Unix pretty well
[01:07] <GuenterErse> Unix/bash
[01:08] <nith1210> GuenterErse: Fair enough, my first suggesting is to purge the nvidia driver, then boot up. If that works, then you can play with getting the driver working.
[01:08] <jasabella> out of curiosity, is the C-M-F1 terminal a tty or pts?
[01:08] <zykotick9> lazar: allowing root to login to ssh is insanity
[01:08] <lazar> ok, thanks. so i could use noip.com for dynamic ip adress lock up?
[01:08] <GuenterErse> I'll try that with. Thanks
[01:09] <nith1210> GuenterErse: also, did you get it from their site?
[01:09] <zykotick9> jasabella: fyi, any terminal is a tty (in xorg or console) <- this is MUCH confused even in gnu/linux world
[01:09] <jasabella> you should disable root login, i use a dynamic ip address and i noticed im being attacked :(
[01:09] <nith1210> GuenterErse: or the repo?
[01:09] <GuenterErse> I did
[01:09] <GuenterErse> Site
[01:09] <nith1210> GuenterErse: That one is a bit finicky but it is doable. I'd recommend the xorg-edgers ppa instead, it's got the 337 drivers
[01:09] <jasabella> hmm
[01:10] <GuenterErse> Hmm. I'll check it out. How do you purge from the run package?
[01:10] <nith1210> GuenterErse: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa ; works well for me.
[01:10] <nith1210> GuenterErse: probably "sudo apt-get purge nvidia-334"
[01:11] <nith1210> GuenterErse: sorry, no
[01:11] <nith1210> GuenterErse: *bad brain*; I don't remember how to from the run package.
[01:11] <jasabella> what's the recommended way to 'remote desktop' into ubuntu?
[01:13] <joseluis64> I have a problem with gtk applications, when I write words of my native language (spanish) that have diacritical symbol (acute) arent written correctly
[01:13] <GuenterErse> OK a bit of luck. Reinstalled drivers, now my desktop will load. But compiz wont
[01:15] <jasabella> i shouldnt need to enable PAE on a 64-bit install of ubuntu should i?
[01:15] <nith1210> GuenterErse: When you say you reinstalled the drivers, do you mean you uninstalled the run package and are running nouveau or you installed the new package from the ppa?
[01:16] <holstein> !pae | jasabella
[01:16] <GuenterErse> Actually haven't gotten to the ppa yet. Reinstalled the nvidia*.run
[01:16] <jasabella> yep im looking atthat page
[01:16] <zykotick9> jasabella: fyi, pae on 64bit is redundant
[01:16] <nith1210> GuenterErse: I'd suggest figuring out how to uninstall the run package first, it'll greatly simplify things.
[01:16] <jasabella> i had 1gb when i first installed 64bit, now i upgradedthe ram to 4gb and it doesnt recognise it all
[01:16] <jasabella> which is strange
[01:17] <holstein> jasabella: run "uname -a" and see what kernel you are using
[01:17] <holstein> jasabella: you can always try a 64 bit live CD as well
[01:17] <jasabella> will do as soon as my memtest86+ is finished running :)
[01:17] <holstein> jasabella: you might have 4gb's, and sharing with video onboard, and think you should be seeing more than you are
[01:18] <jasabella> yea i dont have 1gb allocated to onboard video lol only 64mb
[01:18] <jasabella> 8 is probably the video that the motherboard wants (as mentioned in the bios
[01:18] <jasabella> still, that leaves 1 whole gb
[01:20] <jakubo> hi, i need urgent help with rt3290 wifi adapter driver. it seems to work ootb from the live usb but i fail to get the computer to forget all the dkms modules or simply dont have all the modules loaded. can so help me please?
[01:20] <jasabella> it boots so much quicker :)
[01:21] <jasabella> it's a x86_64 kernel
[01:21] <jasabella> according to uname -a
[01:23] <GuenterErse> I uninstalled the driver. The switch --uninstall does it
[01:24] <jasabella> dont tell me i have to reinstall windows to update the bios :/
[01:24] <wheresmypaaaants> Hi. Today i turned my ubuntu pc on to see the system is running low-graphics mode. Your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. You will need to configure these yourself.
[01:24] <nith1210> GuenterErse: Nice, that's easy enough.
[01:24] <wheresmypaaaants> I can pastebin config files for you if that will help. I have tried everything in the forums and nothing work.
[01:24] <nith1210> GuenterErse: does she boot?
[01:24] <GuenterErse> No
[01:25] <GuenterErse> Still gives me the desktop and no unity
[01:25] <GuenterErse> It's like the window compositor is failing
[01:25] <nith1210> GuenterErse: does /var/log/Xorg.0.log show anything useful?
[01:25] <nith1210> or, in a TTY, DISPLAY=:0 unity --replace
[01:25] <jasabella> hmmm lshw says my ram sticks are only 512mb
[01:26] <wheresmypaaaants> wait
[01:26] <wheresmypaaaants> nith
[01:26] <wheresmypaaaants> whats your problem with your computer
[01:26] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: ?
[01:26] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: I have no issue, GuenterErse is having trouble getting unity to start.
[01:26] <wheresmypaaaants> what does he see
[01:26] <wheresmypaaaants> black?
[01:26] <GuenterErse> No
[01:26] <wheresmypaaaants> what does he see?
[01:27] <GuenterErse> It will get to my desktop with just my icons
[01:27] <GuenterErse> No unity
[01:27] <wheresmypaaaants> ah
[01:27] <wheresmypaaaants> i cant help there
[01:27] <wheresmypaaaants> but can someone else help me out?
[01:27] <nith1210> GuenterErse: run that in the tty, it'll show you unity's output.
[01:28] <GuenterErse> But I just tried compiz --replace and then Ctrl z and then just unity... And it seems to load into ram. But isn't drawing the border
[01:28] <nith1210> GuenterErse: do unity, it'll start compiz if it needs to.
[01:28] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: I'll try to help shortly, for sanity reasons I only help with one Xorg issue at a time.
[01:29] <CodeCyberpunk> Please precione which button is to boot into Ubuntu or Trisquel?
[01:29] <wheresmypaaaants> okay, ive tried everything, but when launching my os today it says the system is running in low graphics, failed to detect graphics, blah blah blah.
[01:29] <wheresmypaaaants> i can pastebin configs for you
[01:29] <GuenterErse> One sec
[01:29] <wheresmypaaaants> whatever you need
[01:29] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: did you install the "Additional drivers" ?
[01:30] <wheresmypaaaants> i installed my graphic drivers, my computer booted to that screen but in normal res
[01:30] <wheresmypaaaants> i reinstalled other packages with no avail
[01:30] <wheresmypaaaants> i didnt install "additional drivers"
[01:30] <jakubo> problems removing dkms modules?
[01:30] <CodeCyberpunk> Now everything is installed, but can not remember which precionar button, to boot
[01:30] <nith1210> when you say you installed your "graphic drivers" what do you mean?
[01:30] <GuenterErse> I think I see the problem. Opengl isn't loading
[01:30] <wheresmypaaaants> i reinstalled nvidia graphics
[01:31] <wheresmypaaaants> but it just booted my pc in normal resolution
[01:31] <wheresmypaaaants> and led me to the same screen
[01:31] <CodeCyberpunk> which button?
[01:31] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: last time that happened to me I found out that my nvidia card was not supported by the nvidia drivers.
[01:32] <CodeCyberpunk> Algun Latino , que hable castellano ?
[01:32] <wheresmypaaaants> how would i verify that or switch to onboard graphics that arent nvidia
[01:32] <Beldar> CodeCyberpunk, Shift to show grub menu.
[01:32] <pepee> CodeCyberpunk, preSionar en ingles = press
[01:32] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: easy mode: "Additional Drivers" --> "Using X.Org X server -- Nouveau..."
[01:33] <wheresmypaaaants> how do i do that...?
[01:33] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: do you have the unity bar on the left side?
[01:33] <wheresmypaaaants> no
[01:33] <GuenterErse> Nith! It works!
[01:33] <wheresmypaaaants> i see a small window with back around it
[01:33] <GuenterErse> Opengl wasn't loading
[01:33] <nginx_> hi
[01:33] <wheresmypaaaants> my cursor is an X
[01:33] <nginx_> W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ppa.launchpad.net_nilarimogard_webupd8_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[01:33] <nginx_> , W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[01:33] <nginx_> , W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[01:33] <nginx_> , W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[01:33] <nith1210> GuenterErse: Great, how did you resolve it?
[01:33] <nginx_> , W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-security_main_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[01:33] <unopaste> nginx_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:34] <GuenterErse> Installed ccsm and enabled the plugin for opengl
[01:34] <GuenterErse> Then unity would enable
[01:34] <Crashed> Can someone help me out! I crashed on windows 7, Grub wouldnt boot so I did a grub-install fix and now Grub works but windows just stops at "Starting Windows" any clue?
[01:34] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: CTRL+ALT+F1; log in; sudo apt-get purge nvidia-33*
[01:34] <Crashed> what to do
[01:34] <GuenterErse> Thanks a million!
[01:34] <nith1210> GuenterErse: np, is that with nouveau?
[01:35] <nginx_> I upgraded the wrong time
[01:35] <wheresmypaaaants> done
[01:35] <nginx_> W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ppa.launchpad.net_nilarimogard_webupd8_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[01:35] <nginx_> , W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[01:35] <nginx_> , W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[01:35] <nginx_> , W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[01:35] <Beldar> Crashed, If you have a w7 recovery or install disc/usb you can load the windows boot to the mbr.
[01:35] <nginx_> , W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-security_main_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[01:35] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: ok, did it remove the package or give an error?
[01:35] <wheresmypaaaants> should i do sudo reboot now?
[01:35] <nginx_> , W:Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[01:35] <unopaste> nginx_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:35] <wheresmypaaaants> it removed
[01:35] <wheresmypaaaants> successfully
[01:35] <GuenterErse> Nith1210: nope. Proper graphics
[01:35] <nith1210> nginx_: I recommend paste.ubuntu.com
[01:36] <wheresmypaaaants> what now?
[01:36] <nith1210> GuenterErse: Ahh, ok. I do recommend the PPA if you're interested in the newer nvidia drivers; they package it well.
[01:36] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: reboot please
[01:36] <Crashed> Beldar:  Do you mean use the Windows 7 disc to fix mbr?
[01:36] <wheresmypaaaants> rebooting
[01:36] <GuenterErse> I will try that
[01:36] <Crashed> I dont have and backups
[01:37] <Crashed> any-
[01:37] <wheresmypaaaants> same screen
[01:37] <Beldar> Crashed, Yes to confirm that this is a windows problem, grub just chainloads it.
[01:37] <nginx_> -q #ubuntu nginx_!*@*
[01:37] <jakubo> anyone expert on wifi?
[01:37] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: please post /var/log/Xorg.0.log to paste.ubuntu.com
[01:39] <wheresmypaaaants> i have pastebinit, how would i use pastebinit to do this? i installed it 30 minutes ago and didnt "train" mysekf
[01:39] <sandro_> Need to change the frenquencia video, use the ubuntu 14:04 LTS, my onboard video card is intel
[01:39] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: sorry, I'm not sure, I've never use that before.
[01:40] <Crashed> Beldar: So if I do a Mbr fix on windows it wount mess with Ubuntu/ Grub 2?
[01:40] <Beldar> Crashed, Just so we are on the same page, I do not mean a repair, but loading the windows boot to the mbr so it boots straight there. Putting grub back is easy.
[01:40] <wheresmypaaaants> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7318956
[01:40] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[01:40] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: nice
[01:41] <Beldar> Crashed, Basically your problem is a windows one, you would best be in ##windows you crashed windows in windows, all ubuntu does is chainload it to run all by utself.
[01:41] <Beldar> itself*
[01:42] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: Would you please do the same for "dpkg -l" ?
[01:43] <Crashed> Beldar: after i crashed in windows nothing loaded past bios- Black screen
[01:43] <Beldar> Crashed, Is this a dual boot or was ubuntu installed from windows?
[01:44] <Crashed> Beldar: Dual boot on split drive
[01:44] <wheresmypaaaants> nith1210: Not sure how to pastebin that. May i have a file location/file name?
[01:44] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: dpkg -l | pastebininit
[01:45] <wheresmypaaaants> nith1210: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7318976
[01:45] <Beldar> Crashed, You said "I did a grub-install fix and now Grub works but windows just stops at "Starting Windows"  This conflicts with your last statement. "after i crashed in windows nothing loaded past bios- Black screen" grub is post bios.
[01:46] <Crashed> Beldar: Hard drive seems fine.. Grub 2 is working now when I load windows 7 it just says Staring up Windows and the logo dont apear
[01:46] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-*
[01:46] <Beldar> Crashed, Right and the problem is windows not ubuntu or grub, if you have run sudo update-grub to be sure grub is chainloading correctly.
[01:47] <wheresmypaaaants> done. reboot now?
[01:47] <mrpizzaface> hey anyone know about getting Offical Chrome latest stable release to stop giving the stupid "Aw Snap" error on loading youtube video ?
[01:47] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: yes please
[01:48] <wheresmypaaaants> okay
[01:48] <buffalo_> #ubuntu
[01:48] <nith1210> buffalo_: *cheer*
[01:48] <wheresmypaaaants> ubuntu startup screen, then same screen ive been getting
[01:48] <buffalo_> #ubuntu-cn
[01:48] <Crashed> Beldar: So the problem now you mean is Windows MBR? Run update - grub fix that side
[01:48] <Crashed> hmmm
[01:49] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: ok, repastebin dpkg -l please
[01:49] <Beldar> Crashed, No I mean windows is broken, we don't do windows here.
[01:49] <zykotick9> Crashed: Beldar fyi, it's "sudo update-grub"
[01:50] <Crashed> Beldar: Then why would the grub update comand work?
[01:50] <wheresmypaaaants> paste.ubuntu.com/7319011
[01:50] <Beldar> zykotick9, That is what I posted.
[01:50] <Crashed> Its all good I read sudo in my mind hahaha
[01:50] <zykotick9> Beldar: sorry, yes YOU did, Crashed did not...
[01:50] <buffalo_> hello ,everyone!
[01:50] <Beldar> Crashed, Try it, see if it does, I can tell you have no clue in what I have said. ;)
[01:51] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: ok, it looks like nvidia's gone now, and your new Xorg.0.log?
[01:51] <Beldar> Crashed, Worst thing here is not understanding and getting into a circular help scenario.
[01:51] <sec_> how check which ubuntu version i am on?
[01:52] <wheresmypaaaants> location?
[01:52] <nith1210> sec_: lsb_release -a
[01:52] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:52] <Crashed> Beldar: Yeah you said somthing like get grabing original mbr is what I got
[01:52] <Crashed> I am noob thats for shure but can get it fast
[01:52] <Crashed> I know some
[01:52] <sec_> nith1210: 10.04.3 LTS is too old, right?
[01:52] <Crashed> sure-
[01:52] <nicomo10> Well,it seems fun to use Xchat!:)
[01:53] <zykotick9> sec_: yes
[01:53] <wheresmypaaaants> paste.ubuntu.com/7319032
[01:53] <nith1210> according to the topic, no
[01:53] <sec_> nith1210: thanks
[01:53] <nith1210> sec_: topic says 10.04 server is ok, but Desktop might be too old
[01:54] <Crashed> I get the chain its a sequence
[01:54] <zykotick9> nith1210: the 10.04 server = no xorg.  i highly doubt anyone in #ubuntu wants that...
[01:54] <nicomo10> Can everyone tell me where is the robot?
[01:54] <Crashed> BB
[01:54] <nith1210> zykotick9: I live in 10.04 server; I disagree.
[01:55] <zykotick9> nith1210: interesting... you are an exception, that proves the rule ;)
[01:55] <sandro_> how to changue video resolution ubuntu 14.04LTS
[01:55] <zykotick9> sandro_: xrandr/arandr are two options (assuming free drivers)
[01:56] <nith1210> sandro_: If you go into unity and type "Screen Display", the settings gui will have a "Resolution" pulldown.
[01:56] <nith1210> sandro_: rather, the unity menu.
[01:56] <zykotick9> sandro_: i'd say nith1210's answer is better (for you)
[01:56] <wheresmypaaaants> nith1210: did you see the link?
[01:57] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: sorry, I must have missed it. Without my name in the msg, it sometimes gets lost in all the join/quits
[01:57] <jakubo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7318953/
[01:57] <jakubo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7318974/
[01:57] <jakubo> can someone please have a look at these 2 and tell me why one of them has wifi while the other doesnt?
[01:57] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: I have it now though.
[01:57] <sandro_> I want to change the resolution to 1024x1280, 1024x768 only appears more.
[01:57] <wheresmypaaaants> nith1210: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7319032
[01:58] <Crashed> Bedar: Nothing so what do I need to do in windows? Little more detail
[01:59] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: did you install the nvidia driver from the run package?
[01:59] <Beldar> Crashed, I would describe what happened in ##windows and get their help getting it back.
[01:59] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: I don't know why, but nouveau is being unloaded
[01:59] <Crashed> lmao I cant get on windows and dont know where to ask for help
[01:59] <wheresmypaaaants> i installed nvidia via the website, then removed it and installed via apt-get nvidia-current
[02:00] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: when you say "via the website", you mean nvidia's website?
[02:00] <Beldar> !register | Crashed
[02:00] <zykotick9> jakubo: ahhh those look like very different machines, perhaps "diff" can be your friend?
[02:00] <sandro_> my video card is onboard intel
[02:00] <wheresmypaaaants> nith1210: yes, the nvidia website ;)
[02:00] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: Do you still have the .run?
[02:00] <Beldar> Crashed, You have to be registered for that channel I believe, that is the windows channel isall.
[02:00] <wheresmypaaaants> possibly
[02:01] <Crashed> Gotcha didnt knw what you where saying having ben on this chat for like 2 years
[02:01] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: So you currently still have that one installed, plus parts of the packages from the ubuntu repo; that's why you're having issues.
[02:01] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: if you have the .run, there's an --uninstall option you need to run
[02:01] <rww> 02:00:59 -!- Irssi: There does not appear to be anything preventing Crashed from joining/talking in ##windows
[02:01] <zykotick9> wheresmypaaaants: sidenote, if you installed the nvidia.com driver, at any time, i'd personlly consider your installation "broken"
[02:01] <rww> so not registered-users-only
[02:01] <jakubo> zykotick9: its the same actually. one with live usb and the other one from upgrade to 14.04
[02:01] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: Then reboot your machine and it should pick up the nouveau drivers.
[02:01] <Beldar> Crashed, Just want to see you get the best help, really.
[02:01] <wheresmypaaaants> if i did not delete .run its in my downloads folder
[02:01] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: specifically, /var/log/Xorg.0.log should NOT contain "UnloadModule: "nouveau"
[02:01] <wheresmypaaaants> how do i find out the files in my downloads folder
[02:02] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: ls ~/Downloads/
[02:02] <zykotick9> jakubo: ok, best of luck.  if you've tried upgradeing _I_ consider it a waste of _my_ time to try troubleshooting the issue.  best of luck!
[02:02] <wheresmypaaaants> yep
[02:02] <wheresmypaaaants> its in there
[02:03] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: try running it with --help
[02:03] <jasabell1> i wonder if windows preinstallation environment can be used to flash my bios
[02:03] <Crashed> Thanks!
[02:03] <wheresmypaaaants> nith1210: Running what..?
[02:03] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: the nvidia .run
[02:04] <wheresmypaaaants> so Nvidia-Linux-x86_64-331.67.run --help
[02:04]  * zykotick9 thinks nvidia.com's .run file so a horrible idea...
[02:04] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: yes
[02:04] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: it should have a --uninstall
[02:04] <jakubo> zykotick9: there have been dkms modules there i wonder if they somehow spoil it all
[02:05] <wheresmypaaaants> sorry but can you give me a syntax example?
[02:05] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: cd Downloads; ./Nvidia-Linux-x86_64-331.67.run --help
[02:05] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: you need to prefix commands in the local dir with ./
[02:06] <wheresmypaaaants> ah, there we go
[02:06] <nith1210> zykotick9: the .run files are rather frustrating. I wish they'd just open source the whole thing.
[02:06] <wheresmypaaaants> its working
[02:06] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: including after reboot?
[02:06] <zykotick9> jakubo: IMO (only!) upgrading ubuntu is crazyness... YMMV
[02:07] <wheresmypaaaants> wait
[02:07] <jakubo> i have done it on my own laptop for 4 years now.
[02:07] <wheresmypaaaants> it says nothings installed
[02:07] <zykotick9> nith1210: nvidia is frustrating, BUT it also offers a free, as in FAIF, driver - so i can't complain.  ATI/AMD does not :(
[02:08] <nicomo10> Can everyone speak Chinese?
[02:08] <zykotick9> nicomo10: "everyone" = no
[02:08] <Beldar> !cn | nicomo10 they do here
[02:08] <nith1210> zykotick9: fglrx ?
[02:09] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: when you reboot it, what happens?
[02:09] <nicomo10> Thank a lot! :)
[02:09] <wheresmypaaaants> let me check :F
[02:09] <Beldar> no probs
[02:09] <jakubo> and never had any issue (but there have always been issues when some modules do not load and stuff. the question is what is "stuff" and why is it so hard to make a tool to reset configuration to freshly installed?
[02:09] <zykotick9> nith1210: open driver, but requires non-free firmware :(  = non-free IMO
[02:09] <sandro_> driver for Intel Grafics V9.17.10.2828
[02:09] <sandro_> ??
[02:10] <wheresmypaaaants> black screen, then purple ubuntu loading screen, then same screen
[02:10] <nith1210> zykotick9: I was unaware that the firmware wasn't free in both cases. Interesting.
[02:10] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: ok, please pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log again
[02:12] <zykotick9> nith1210: fyi, h-node, the database for free software supported hardware, has ATI/AMD w/3d support = 0
[02:12] <wheresmypaaaants> cant pastebin, it says its an empty document
[02:12] <wheresmypaaaants> the location is 'var/log/Xorg.0.log'  correct?
[02:12] <Beldar> sandro_, I think lspci | grep VGA  will give you better hardware info.
[02:12] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: with an initial /
[02:13] <wheresmypaaaants> god im stupid xD
[02:13] <wheresmypaaaants> nith1210: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7319115
[02:13] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: no, you're new. Nothing has indicated you're stupid... yet =P
[02:13] <wheresmypaaaants> lel
[02:13] <zykotick9> Beldar: personally, i'd use "lspci -v | grep -i vga" as my suggestion (would include hyrid cards, and VGA vs vga isn't an issue)
[02:14] <wheresmypaaaants> im gonna love linux, mainly ubuntu, cause of all the terminal code, unlike windows 7. this makes me feel all computer geniousy when really im just dragging code from a webpage in to reminal
[02:14] <wheresmypaaaants> :D
[02:14] <jakubo> zykotick9: it appears ccm and ctr are missing... ill try if these will make a difference...
[02:15] <Crashed> Beldar: That chat is not very active -Cyber said he dont know
[02:15] <sdfasdfadfas> ubuntu14.04 wifi often disconnected
[02:15] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: It's still loading the nvidia driver on you.
[02:15] <jakubo> sdfasdfadfas: hardware?
[02:16] <wheresmypaaaants> i may have other nvidia drivers installed, did i mention i do have nvidia drivers installed via apt-get
[02:16] <zykotick9> jakubo: interesting.  best of luck!
[02:16] <basketball> I am trying to set my home key to open  google chrome but even after i set the shortcut it still goes to homepage in the browser and opens home folder when on the desktop
[02:16] <sdfasdfadfas> 13.10 No problem
[02:16] <wheresmypaaaants> heres my dpkg again
[02:16] <wheresmypaaaants> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7319126
[02:19] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: I think that between the various nvidia driver's you've installed, stuff has gotten stuck
[02:19] <wheresmypaaaants> do i have to reinstall?
[02:19] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: Would you please run the nvidia installer, install the sucker, then immediately do a --uninstall ?
[02:19] <wheresmypaaaants> sure thing
[02:19] <basketball> how do i fix it
[02:20] <mikeche1en> anyone know how to set up filesystem compression in 14.04? is btrfs the best option now?
[02:20] <wheresmypaaaants> nith1210: ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing.
[02:21] <wheresmypaaaants> How would I shut off X
[02:21] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: It doesn't typically complain about that. What did you run?
[02:22] <wheresmypaaaants> my specific command was: sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.67.run
[02:22] <wheresmypaaaants> might i do sudo service lightdm stop
[02:22] <wheresmypaaaants> or would that just shut everything down
[02:23] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: that should do it, but I've always run that from within an X session whenever I have run it.
[02:23] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: mind you I stopped using the .run file years ago.
[02:24] <wheresmypaaaants> erm
[02:25] <wheresmypaaaants> it says unknown instance?
[02:25] <basketball> I am trying to set my home key to open  google chrome but even after i set the shortcut it still goes to homepage in the browser and opens home folder when on the desktop
[02:26] <boydoy> hi! iwant to ask i try to install ubuntu desktop 14.04LTS to Toshiba satellite Pro L510 the error is the wifi is disable by hardware
[02:26] <boydoy> what solution for this
[02:26] <holstein> basketball: try home+something.. i was doing super+w
[02:27] <boydoy> and also the FN keys cannot work
[02:27] <wheresmypaaaants> nith1210: It says unknown instance
[02:27] <holstein> boydoy: no error. just install if you like, and you can wire up and try and add wifi support
[02:27] <b4tm4n> what is the correct way to make ip rules and routes persistent in ubuntu?
[02:27] <holstein> !wifi | boydoy
[02:27] <nith1210> wheresmypaaaants: Check your messages.
[02:29] <sdfasdfadfas> #ubuntu-cn
[02:30] <boydoy> itry but it cannot work my wifi
[02:33] <boydoy> my wifi card is rtl8192se
[02:33] <SirLagz> good ol realteks
[02:33] <boydoy> i try but i still cannot install
[02:34] <boydoy> i assume all hardware is support on ubuntu :(
[02:34] <holstein> boydoy: you dont require wifi to install
[02:34] <holstein> boydoy: assume nothing
[02:35] <holstein> boydoy: if the vendor of your hardware didnt say "we support linux/ubuntu" then, you cannot make that assumption
[02:35] <holstein> boydoy: you should be able to easily install ubuntu, then, refer to the guide i gave to see how to make your wifi work *if* it can be made to work
[02:35] <xhsg38> i tried asking this in debian and wanted to try asking the ubuntu crowd since i have an ubuntu pc also. does anyone know of any software that can rename a batch of pictures according to the datetime stamp? like 2014-01-01_11:11:11.JPG?
[02:36] <holstein> xhsg38: a script should be able to do that
[02:36] <jakubo> how can i load ctr and ccm modules?
[02:36] <boydoy> im hard to install using CLI
[02:37] <holstein> boydoy: just use the normal installer.. the normal live CD
[02:37] <holstein> !install
[02:37] <boydoy> i hink now i need to back to may old laptop using ubuntu 12.04
[02:37] <xhsg38> holstein: any leads?
[02:37] <holstein> xhsg38: whatever you would like to make to script that
[02:38] <holstein> xhsg38: you could ask in any general linux community, or scripting/programming.. might be a GUI for it around too
[02:39] <boydoy> there have another ubuntu distro can i use?
[02:39] <boydoy> that can support toshiba satellite Pro L510?
[02:40] <holstein> boydoy: the main one will
[02:40] <holstein> boydoy: please try it, and refer to the link i gave
[02:40] <holstein> !wifi
[02:40] <iason> cinnamon 2.2.3 on ubuntu 14.04 how to a11y mouse wheel zoom?
[02:41] <harttho> I've got an id_rsa in /home/user/A/.ssh. When I'm user A and do a git-pull, everything works. When I'm root and su as A, it asks for my passphrase. Anyone know the issue?
[02:41] <harttho> Desired functionality is not asking for the passphrase
[02:42] <harttho> And it is pointing at the correct key when asking for the passphrase currently
[02:42] <xhsg38> .part
[02:42] <boydoy> actually im happy to use Ubuntu 14.04 LTS but my unit not capable :(
[02:43] <holstein> boydoy: it is
[02:43] <holstein> boydoy: you'll need to try it.. wifi is not neccessary to install
[02:43] <holstein> boydoy: i have installed it on *many* satelite models
[02:44] <boydoy> actualy i already use but if ever i go outside i cannot use using wifi
[02:44] <holstein> boydoy: have you read the link i gave?
[02:44] <holstein> boydoy: are you seeing the device in lspci? or ifconfig
[02:44] <boydoy> actualyy my old one laptop is toshiba also.. but this other one its not work correctly
[02:45] <boydoy> yes i can see.. RTL8192SEvB wireless LAN
[02:45] <holstein> boydoy: ok.. so, do you see the device in lspci? or ifconfig?
[02:46] <boydoy> im using lspci
[02:46] <holstein> boydoy: have you read the link i gave?
[02:46] <boydoy> using terminal
[02:46] <holstein> boydoy: the link descibes how to troubleshoot this
[02:46] <holstein> boydoy: you are not running x?
[02:46] <boydoy> what x?
[02:47] <boydoy> i only command ctrl+alt+T
[02:47] <holstein> boydoy: you say "im using terminal". meaning, you have only commandline system?
[02:47] <boydoy> yes.
[02:47] <holstein> boydoy: you are trying to connect wifi with only commandline system? with no x running?
[02:47] <boydoy> im noob to CLI
[02:48] <holstein> boydoy: then, use a GUI
[02:48] <boydoy> im using gui
[02:48] <holstein> boydoy: ok.. so you are *not* using a commandline system then?
[02:48] <boydoy> yes
[02:49] <boydoy> but you tell me i can view the lspci i using terminal
[02:49] <holstein> boydoy: when you are ready to troubleshoot and get wireless working, and clearly communicate answers and details, let us know.. cheers!
[02:49] <boydoy> ok im ready
[02:49] <holstein> boydoy: have you run "ifconfig"? this is the 3rd time ive asked
[02:49] <feneco> hello everyone, can anyone tell me how do i do to make terminal open in in middle of my screen?
[02:49] <holstein> boydoy: you can use pastebin to share
[02:50] <boydoy> how?
[02:50] <boydoy> i run the ifconfig by terminal? right?
[02:50] <harry> cool
[02:50] <holstein> boydoy: the process is clearly outlined in the link i gave, but you can run the command just as the other
[02:50] <holstein> !paste | boydoy
[02:51] <ice9> how  to create vcard?
[02:51] <nith1210> !help
[02:51] <thefakeazned525> Idk where to report this...
[02:52] <thefakeazned525> But there's a slash missing n
[02:52] <anton02> did anyone upgrade their ubuntu 13.10 to 14 without errors?
[02:52] <holstein> ice9: nothing to do with linux/ubuntu, but you can try something like http://vcardmaker.com/
[02:52] <thefakeazned525> On this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-windows
[02:52] <anton02>  samba-common-bin : Depends: samba-libs (= 2:4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)
[02:52] <thefakeazned525> Windows 95 / 98 / ME / 2000 / XP / Server 2003 / _Vista7_
[02:52] <boydoy> ok i paste to pastebin.. what net?
[02:52] <holstein> anton02: yes, that path has been tested many times, though, i prefer a fresh install
[02:52] <boydoy> next?
[02:53] <thefakeazned525> Needs to have a slash bw vista and 7
[02:53] <anton02> holstein: ubuntu 14 only just came out
[02:53] <holstein> boydoy: you can share the link, to faciliate a volunteer here looking at it
[02:53] <holstein> anton02: correct.. the 14.04 version.. the upgrade path has been tested many times
[02:53] <boydoy> holstein?
[02:53] <holstein> boydoy: share the link.. the pastebin link
[02:54] <holstein> boydoy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7319314/
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> nith1210: morning mate, sux just installed from your universe page :p
[02:54] <holstein> boydoy: then a volunteer can review the data
[02:54] <boydoy> paste.ubuntu.com/7319313
[02:55] <nith1210> lotuspsychje: I'm glad it helped.
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> nith1210: you think it will update, as i installed it manually?
[02:55] <holstein> boydoy: you're device is not showing up there. you should, check the bios, any function keys or switches.. check that the device isnt broken
[02:55] <nith1210> lotuspsychje: you'll never get an update for it
[02:56] <nith1210> lotuspsychje: unless they add it to the trusty repo's
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> nith1210: thats not a problem, ill take the risk :p
[02:56] <anton02> what should i do ? dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-libs_2%3a4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb (--unpack):  subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-libs_2%3a4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> nith1210: if i can ever help you with something let me know :p
[02:56] <jakubo> success... though other than expected...
[02:56] <boydoy> and this the other one holstein paste.ubuntu.com/7319321
[02:57] <nith1210> lotuspsychje: thanks but pay it foward to some other person looking for help :)
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> nith1210: thats a noble thing to say, cheers
[02:57] <nith1210> lotuspsychje: It's how I got started too :)
[02:57] <holstein> boydoy: you can try referring to http://askubuntu.com/questions/66872/wireless-not-working-with-a-rtl8191sevb
[02:58] <boydoy> olstein you see what im post?
[02:59] <harttho> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f59bb4a4c3251ea60963
[02:59] <bluezone> What happened to Jockey-GTK in ubuntu 14.04
[02:59] <anton02> this is what happened. dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-libs_2%3a4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb (--unpack):  subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-libs_2%3a4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> !info jockey-gtk
[03:00] <rww> i think it's merged into software sources now?
[03:00] <jakubo> ccm and ctr did not get loaded due to falsely modified /etc/network/interfaces
[03:02] <boydoy> holstein what next i can do?
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> is there a handy package to see all startup items to enable/disable services?
[03:06] <CryptoSiD> how can i let a user use port 80?
[03:06] <CryptoSiD> only root can it seems
[03:08] <anton02> what should i do ? dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-libs_2%3a4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb (--unpack):  subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-libs_2%3a4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[03:08] <boydoy> hi! holstein..
[03:10] <belak> Hm, what would be a good partition layout on a 256G ssd for a dual boot with ubuntu and arch?
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> belak: there are few tricks to tweak an ssd
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> belak: are you on 14.04 trusty?
[03:11] <belak> lotuspsychje: I don't have it set up yet, but that's the target...
[03:11] <zykotick9> belak: 256G SSD, that's sick.  i'm jealous, it sure beats my 60G SSDs ;)
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> belak: partition trick isnt that important, its what you tweak after install that speeds up
[03:12] <belak> zykotick9: I got lucky... a friend was selling it for cheap since he didn't need it
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> belak: check this page for optimizing ssd: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[03:13] <belak> If I have the option between a uefi setup and a legacy bios setup, what's better? I know uefi is generally more annoying to set up... but are there any advantages to it?
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> belak: i have the fstab, swappiness, trim at rc.local and 'quiet splash' off to speed things up
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> belak: im not sure uefi will influence your ssd speed
[03:14] <belak> It shouldn't
[03:14] <belak> Just setup wise
[03:15] <zykotick9> belak: if you have the choice, don't use uefi (IMO)
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> belak: i run trust 64bit on samsung 120gig evo with all the hacks, and it runs rocketfast
[03:15] <anton02> what should i do ? dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-libs_2%3a4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb (--unpack):  subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-libs_2%3a4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> !info samba-libs
[03:15] <zykotick9> anton02: at least you're asking in the right channel now ;)
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> anton02: did you try install from software centre?
[03:16] <belak> What's a good size for root?
[03:16] <SirLagz> belak: as much as you want
[03:17] <belak> I mean, how much will be enough, assuming I have a separate storage partition
[03:17] <anton02> lotuspsychje: softwarecentre wont work because of dependency errors
[03:17] <zykotick9> belak: for ubuntu i'd say 20+G for /
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> !partition | belak
[03:17] <SirLagz> belak: I have a 512MB root partition.
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> anton02: how about an apt-cache clear and sudo apt-get update?
[03:17] <SirLagz> belak: depends on how you're going to use the system.
[03:17] <trap_exit> is there a way to install ubuntu on my xperia z ultra ?
[03:17] <belak> SirLagz: with a decently sized /usr I'd assume
[03:17] <zykotick9> SirLagz: no possible way you could update to a new release with that... just sayin'
[03:18] <SirLagz> belak: nope. The Machine only has a 512MB IDE DOM
[03:18] <SirLagz> This is a debian machine though, not Ubuntu
[03:18] <belak> Ah, yeah
[03:18] <belak> Debian is a little lighter
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> trap_exit: can your device install other Oses?
[03:18] <zykotick9> SirLagz: ahhh, this is #ubuntu
[03:19] <SirLagz> zykotick9: principle is still the same though. There isn't a 'good' root partition size. Just make it however big you want to make it
[03:19] <zykotick9> SirLagz: debian != ubuntu in any way
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> trap_exit: maybe join #ubuntu-touch aswell to see if your device shows in list?
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> trap_exit: or you really want the ubuntu desktop?
[03:20] <SirLagz> Personally, I have 2 or 3 partitions. /boot if I'm using LVM, / and /home
[03:20] <zykotick9> SirLagz: +1
[03:20] <SirLagz> generally for my use, Debian or Ubuntu boxes, / is 30 gigs, the rest is home
[03:21] <schultza> is there a way to read windows 7 event logs in ubuntu?
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> schultza: maybe in /media/yourwindowspartition?
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> schultza: if not, you can try to scan your whole Hd with photorec and search for the log
[03:23] <schultza> i know where the logs are.. they are apparently binary according to less
[03:23] <HowardTheDuck> hi whats ubuntus
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu | HowardTheDuck
[03:24] <HowardTheDuck> woah
[03:24] <HowardTheDuck> thanks
[03:24] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: ahh, i'd question why you'd even answer the first question, but you 2nd reply, photorec for the log - that's close to impossible...
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: i have managed to recover data with photorec from far away ages mate
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: best piece of recovery software ever
[03:25] <Paulus68> or you can use remastersys
[03:25] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: oh, photorec saved my ass as well.  but without names/extensions, looking for 1 file - it crazyness
[03:26] <SirLagz> zykotick9: unless it's the 1 file that's pdf in a whole bunch of jpgs. then it's easy :P
[03:26] <SirLagz> zykotick9: also, you can get photorec to put extensions on
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: finding a windows log from ubuntu is also crazy :p
[03:27] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: +1
[03:28] <zykotick9> ^ if anyone is unclear, by +1 i mean, i agree
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> for those who are interested, ive install the new ubuntu-touch on a nexus7 2013 and it improved alot, for more info join #ubuntu-touch
[03:30] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: -1 ;)
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: at least im not stuck with unsecure android anymore :p
[03:32] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: IMO, cell-phone anything = personal surveillence device :(  i'm a tin foil hatter in this matter ;
[03:32] <zykotick9> ;)
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: its a tablet :p
[03:32] <SirLagz> zykotick9: how about the old dumb phone nokias ?
[03:32] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: no difference IMO
[03:33] <zykotick9> SirLagz: IMO doesn't really matter, the cell networks are still surveillence IMO
[03:33] <rww> and if it doesn't connect to the cell network because it's an average tablet...?
[03:33] <zykotick9> rww: ;)
[03:34] <zykotick9> rww: is is connectioned to either google/apple?  if so = surveillence
[03:34] <tgm4883> !OT
[03:35] <jobarte> is possible to create a historical data from nload command?
[03:35] <Bucky21659> !HELP
[03:35] <Bucky21659> !patience
[03:36] <zykotick9> jobarte: i'm not really sure what nload is... but you've asked a couple of times.  can you just output it to a file via "nload > file"?  if so the yes, it's possible.  seen cron.
[03:36] <anton02> lotuspsychje: thats an invalid operation 'clear'
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> anton02: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[03:37] <jobarte> [zykotick9]: no, isnt possible to command nload> file, nload is similar to top and ntop
[03:37] <jobarte> data is output on console in realtime
[03:37] <anton02> lotuspsychje: 'clear' isnt mentioned on that page
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> anton02: apt-get clean
[03:38] <zykotick9> jobarte: ok, well, i have no idea then.  best of luck!
[03:38] <tgm4883> jobarte: you can send top to a file
[03:38] <jobarte> [zykotick9]: thanks
[03:38] <bluezone> How do i change the menus from the top-left-screen mac-style to the top-left-window 'windows style' ubuntu 14.04
[03:38] <belak> Is it possible to use refind or gummiboot with ubuntu? I see that they don't have packages
[03:39] <anton02> lotuspsychje: you had said apt-cache clear earlier is all
[03:39] <jobarte> [tgm4883]: yes, I can, but is only for this moment, I want to create historic data, equal vnstat or rrdtool
[03:39] <jobarte> nload show bandwidth usage in realtime
[03:40] <jobarte> vnstat show bandwidth traffic
[03:40] <zykotick9> jobarte: fyi, using TAB to complete nicks means the user gets a highlight, with you [nick] that might not be the case.
[03:40] <anton02> lotuspsychje: thanks, that worked
[03:40] <jobarte> vnstat creates historic data
[03:40] <anton02> lotuspsychje: ah damn, no it didnt
[03:40] <anton02> lotuspsychje: dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-libs_2%3a4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb (--unpack):  subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:41] <anton02> -1ubuntu2_amd64.deb (--unpack):  subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-libs_2%3a4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:43] <anton02> what should I do?
[03:45] <anton02> google searched and suprisingly found someone with the exact same error line http://askubuntu.com/questions/450109/when-attempting-upgrade-from-13-10-to-14-04-upgrade-halted-and-will-not-allow-2n
[03:46] <zykotick9> anton02: 1) i'd suggest using a pastebin site, such as paste.ubuntu.com 2) don't expect answers in #ubuntu...  good luck.
[03:57] <dhrosa> does anyone know why suddenly my laptop automatically boots into windows?
[03:57] <dhrosa> without showing me grub?
[03:57] <dhrosa> the last thing I did was boot  into windows, and now this happens
[03:59] <bluezone_> how do i manage the drivers that are installed
[03:59] <bluezone_> video card and network card drivers 14.04
[04:01] <holstein> boydoy: sure.. next you can just address your questions to the entire channel and see if a volunteer can help
[04:01] <holstein> boydoy: did you work through the checklist i gave?
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> bluezone_: check software sources/last tab additional drivers
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> bluezone_: lshw -C video and lshw -C network for current drivers loaded
[04:03] <bluezone_> ok
[04:06] <skyblue> how to install step by step spring framework with maven ?
[04:08] <holstein> skyblue: i think this is what you are looking for http://www.springframework.net/documentation.html
[04:09]  * skyblue looking ...
[04:16] <skyblue> holstien, no i am talking about this : http://projects.spring.io/spring-framework/
[04:17] <yenic> !trusty golang
[04:18] <somsip> !golang | yenic
[04:18] <yenic> that didn't work
[04:18] <somsip> !info golang | yenic
[04:18] <yenic> thanks
[04:19] <yenic> how often are packages like golang updated on LTS releases? ever?
[04:20] <holstein> yenic: depends.. LTS packages typically get "maitenance" updates.. security patches, etc.. but, some packages (web browsers and others) are updated regularly to newer versions.. and, packages can be backported from newer versions into older releases of ubuntu
[04:20] <holstein> maintenance*
[04:21] <yenic> interesting, thanks. I'm pleased to see the latest version there for 14.04 at least. If it gets out of date I can always do it myself
[04:22]  * skyblue @holestien did you got my info ?
[04:23] <holstein> skyblue: i did. that looks like where i would go for help installing
[04:25] <skyblue> yes i know but i have to build from source which i have limted idea if you can help me step by step i will be greatly thankful to you .
[04:26] <holstein> skyblue: the maintainers should provide help
[04:26] <holstein> skyblue: each case can have different requirements, and different dependencies.. you can always look for a PPA, though, they are not officially supported eithher
[04:27] <Guegs> Ajklfds. What was the point of UEFI? To make installing a different OS a complete pain? x.x
[04:28] <rww> UEFI, or secure boot?
[04:28] <cfhowlett> Guegs designed and implemented by microsoft - ask Ballmer
[04:28] <Guegs> Err, secure boot I believe. I found a guid on help.ubuntu.com. Going to give it a try.
[04:29] <Guegs> Though I've been using it (ubuntu) in a VM the past month or so. Quite like it.
[04:30] <adam_____> trying to update oracle java from 1.7.0_4 to1.7.0_53
[04:30] <CarlFK> skyblue: spring is a java thing, not a ubuntu thing.
[04:30] <CarlFK> so adam__ can help! ;)
[04:32] <CarlFK> skyblue: there shouldn't be any "building from source" that is different from anything else you are doing with java
[04:32] <dw1> went with a ubuntu server <3
[04:34] <reves> purple and orange and purple and orange
[04:34] <adam_____> any reason my terminal becomes unresponsive after a couple of minutes when I ssh to my server?
[04:35] <dw1> adam_____: certainly a reason.. what it is on the other hand.....
[04:35]  * skyblue *sigh* *mind is blown*
[04:35] <reves> adam_____ have yu tried asking your terminal what its problem is?
[04:36] <adam_____> bunch of smart asses
[04:36] <reves> love you adam_____
[04:36] <dw1> tough one.....
[04:37] <dw1> check the logs of course
[04:37] <dw1> try another ssh client maybe
[04:38] <Wug> adam_____: for the record it's probably an issue with the connection between you and your server
[04:38] <adam_____> dw1: only started after 14.04 installed on my laptop
[04:38] <Wug> lots of residential internet providers like to do stupid shit like dropping connections that are idle for a while
[04:39] <Wug> does it happen if you keep the session continuously active
[04:39] <adam_____> Wug: never before has it dropped so quickly
[04:39] <adam_____> don't think so
[04:39] <Wug> its probably your connection
[04:39] <adam_____> I can't ctrl-c out
[04:39] <hdon> hi all :) pacmd(1) no longer sees my "Microsoft LifeCam Show" (lsusb sez 045e:0729) but it shows up in the Sound control panel on the "Input" tab. however, applications are not using it as a source any more. it's the only source listed on the "Input" tab of Sound control panel, but in pacmd(1) list-sources, i see instead only my HDA Intel and a monitor on my main mixer output
[04:39] <adam_____> have to kill the terminal window
[04:39] <Wug> that's because SSH handles ^C specially
[04:40] <Wug> there is an escape sequence but I don't remember what it is, its documented in ssh's man page
[04:40] <Wug> you can quit a hung ssh with it
[04:40] <adam_____> opening a new term window and connecting again is fine
[04:40] <Wug> still sounds like a connectivity issue
[04:40] <adam_____> Wug: I'll look it up now
[04:40] <adam_____> also, compiz taking 100% cpu
[04:41] <adam_____> 14.04 bug?
[04:41] <Wug> hard to say about that one
[04:44] <adam_____> chromium taking another cpu's 50%
[04:44] <adam_____> shift-esc doesn't show any particular tab taking lots
[04:44] <adam_____> must be an add-in
[04:45] <Wug> adam_____: it might be flash
[04:46] <Wug> flash is a horrible awful excuse for a program
[04:46] <adam_____> took care of chromium
[04:46] <adam_____> was irccloud
[04:46] <Wug> probably flash
[04:46] <adam_____> no flash in it
[04:46] <adam_____> but lots of irc history
[04:46] <Wug> merely having lots of memory allocated should not consume CPU resources
[04:47] <adam_____> not optimized yet I guess. They're in beta but great service for IRC
[04:47] <belak51> Where are storage drives usually mounted? Somewhere in /mnt, or /media?
[04:47] <adam_____> Wug: you'd think
[04:47] <Wug> belak51: automounted ones tend to live in /media
[04:47] <belak51> Assuming they're permanent
[04:47] <adam_____> but closing and reopening that fixed it
[04:47] <belak51> Wug: yeah, I mean more for storage partitions
[04:47] <Wug> permanent? check /etc/fstab, it will list all of your permanent mountpoints
[04:47] <adam_____> compiz is still 100%
[04:47] <Wug> if they're not listed there they will probably be automounted
[04:47] <adam_____> worrying
[04:48] <Wug> adam_____: try kicking it in the face
[04:49] <adam_____> Well, I'd like to get to the bottom of the issue
[04:49] <adam_____> I've seen compiz do this before
[04:49] <adam_____> I'd like to know why it's happening
[04:50] <adam_____> not going to reboot to see why
[04:50] <Wug> if restarting it fixes it, maybe it's a one-off thing
[04:50] <adam_____> mmm
[04:50] <jason__> hi
[04:50] <adam_____> not willing to do that just yet
[04:50] <adam_____> would like to see what compiz is doing
[04:50] <Wug> if you really wanted to investigate it you'd probably need to rebuild it with some special compiler flags
[04:50] <Wug> otherwise debugging it will probably be useless
[04:51] <adam_____> I'm sure I can investigate what files compiz is accessing etc
[04:51] <Wug> I doubt it's a file-based problem. much more likely is it's some sort of bad interaction with unity
[04:52] <adam_____> Wug: a whole lot in linux is handled as a "file"
[04:53] <Wug> yeah well
[04:53] <Wug> knowing what anonymous pipes it has open probably won't give much insight as to what its actually doing
[04:53] <Wug> other than that it will probably have handles to its various config files and maybe a couple of other probably meaningless goodies
[05:05] <syeekick> by default my grub on ubuntu 14.04 boost ubuntu on top of the list, i want it to boot the last os on the list by deafault
[05:06] <syeekick> i was going to try edit grub.cfg and move the sdc1 windows to the top by cut and pasting them in order on the text editor
[05:06] <jkgndkljrbg> is there a way to prevent games played with wine to store stuff in random places in my home directory? it becomes almost as messy as on a windows machine.
[05:07] <syeekick> as it seemed the menu entries were simlar to that i was eeing on grub
[05:07] <rww> syeekick: edit /etc/default/grub, change GRUB_DEFAULT, run sudo update-grub afterwards
[05:07] <rww> syeekick: 0 is the first option, 1 is the second, etc. i think you can use non-numeric parameters but i forget
[05:07] <rww> !grub | might know
[05:07] <adam_____> Wug: couldn't do anything about compz
[05:07] <adam_____> reboot and things seem fine
[05:07] <adam_____> not happy
[05:07] <adam_____> could have just restarted unity from a terminal screen
[05:08] <hdon> is there a way to read the kernel log with human readable timestamps instead of these ... seconds from kernel boot with millionths of seconds displayed?
[05:09] <hdon> i'm just using dmesg(1) but i'm kinda tired of these timestamps
[05:11] <popassy> ubuntu touch is just for nexus devices?
[05:11] <rww> popassy: nope, that's just what the officially-supported-and-tested devices are
[05:12] <rww> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Working.2C_but_not_available_from_cdimage.ubuntu.com
[05:12] <popassy> oh. alright. how bugsy is it?
[05:12] <popassy> buggy/bugsy
[05:12] <rww> Depends on device. I have it on a Nexus 7 2013, and there are definitely bugs and missing features, but it's a decent preview.
[05:12] <syeekick> adam_____, how do you restart unity is it sudo service restart lighdm?
[05:12] <rww> I know some people (jono, for example) use it as a day-to-day primary phone.
[05:13] <popassy> can i port android apps on it? that would be a good relief.
[05:14] <adam_____> syeekick: I think so
[05:14] <lagbox> i think it is booted by android
[05:14] <adam_____> syeekick: but this also works: http://askubuntu.com/questions/31167/how-can-i-restart-compiz-from-tty-related-how-can-i-set-up-a-fallback-wm
[05:14] <rww> popassy: ask #ubuntu-touch :)
[05:14] <rww> lagbox: nope, it just uses some of its kernel blobs (for non-free drivers)
[05:14] <lagbox> gotcha
[05:15] <rww> it's a full Ubuntu stack apart from that, which is one of my favorite things about that
[05:15] <rww> it **
[05:15] <adam_____> so I'm still trying to update oracle java on my server from 1.7.0_4 to the latest (1.7.0_53)
[05:15] <adam_____> no luck
[05:15] <adam_____> can anyone help?
[05:15] <popassy> rww: i would love to have a new interface. the same interface on ios,android is sickening and not so user friendly
[05:16] <popassy> google now made the experience better, no doubt but still it's sad
[05:16] <bulletrulz129> has anyone gotten netflix to work on 12.04
[05:17] <adam_____> the only way that I have seen suggested is with "sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer"
[05:17] <adam_____> which is the original way I installed it
[05:17] <popassy> rww: i have a moto g, and there is no one i can contact in case i want to install on it :)
[05:17] <popassy> lol
[05:17] <syeekick> boot-repair gives me the option "OS to boot by default" and it doesn't include my real windows os it includes a botch windows that bsods. i want to swiiitch it to sdc1 but you can apply it
[05:18] <frib> how can I make the the system tray volume icon control all audio devices?  currently e.g. if i connect a bluetooth audio device it has no effect on the volume.  thanks
[05:19] <xubunaut> hi, i just installed 14.04 from usb, but when i try to boot the newly installed os it says "operating system not found" any ideas how to troubleshoot?
[05:19] <energizer1> hello, i'm having trouble with apt, and I don't know what to do: Errors were encountered while processing:  lightdm-login-chromiumos
[05:19] <energizer1> http://pastebin.com/d8W3wvBE
[05:21] <energizer1> i just want to remove that package so apt doesn't keep saying that whenever i update&upgrade
[05:22] <szabo> @xubu: have you selected any custom settings during partitioning? Maybe grub points to your usb pendrive and not your hdd.
[05:23] <xubunaut> szabo, something like that would be my guess, but i did all default settings except for encrypted lvm
[05:24] <szabo> xubunaut, yeah, instead of reinstall try to boot into your hdd by using the usb.
[05:25] <szabo> xubunatu, my guess is there was a dropdown list and usb was selected instead of sda.
[05:25] <krypto> hi
[05:25] <xubunaut> szabo, i booted from usb now, where do i look on the hdd to change the setting?
[05:26] <szabo> xubunatu, somehow search the net for grub reinstall on a freshly installed system.
[05:27] <szabo> xubunaut, I don't know the proper procedure.
[05:28] <xubunaut> szabo, hmm yeah i wonder if i can interrupt boot to change the boot menu
[05:28] <xubunaut> szabo, also this looks like it might do the trick http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[05:29] <xubunaut> szabo, things get a little more complicated because of the lvm & crypt
[05:29] <Fudge> anyone have a working extension for workspace grid
[05:30] <SirLagz> Fudge: workspace grid ?
[05:30] <Fudge> it doesnt work for 3.10 does it?
[05:31] <Fudge> SirLagz:  on gnome-shell getting the 2x2 workspace grid yes, for static workspaces
[05:31] <SirLagz> Fudge: ah right.
[05:31] <SirLagz> I don't use gnome-shell, so I'm out of ideas
[05:34] <adam_____> holy shirt, batman. Java irc channel is by invite only??
[05:34] <rww> it's ##java with two #
[05:34] <rww> 05:34:32 -!- Irssi: Channel is blocking unidentified users (+r) and user is not identified
[05:34] <frib> hi.  how can i make the master volume control on the taskbar work correctly?thanks
[05:34] <adam_____> ah.. thanks!
[05:35] <adam_____> hmmm. still getting "freenode (irc.freenode.net:6697): ##java: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services"
[05:35] <rww> !register | adam_____
[05:38] <adam_____> ok. trying to get myself setup with my original nick
[05:38] <adam_____> somehow I managed to get myself banned on the #git channel
[05:38] <adam_____> where do I go for help with that?
[05:39] <rww> adam_____: you're not banned, they just stop unidentified users from talking. you're probably looking for /msg nickserv identify actualnickhere passwordhere
[05:40] <adam_____> rww: thanks.. I have to get my original nick back.. it matches my twitter etc.. I'll be back when that's sorted.. then I'll update my java on my ubuntu server... lots of yak shaving tonight
[05:41] <nicholas> Hey guys, so I'm making a partition which I want to add as /home. My setup currently only contains a /. How can I easily add a partition, make it /home, and transfer my current /home directory onto it?
[05:41] <rww> adam_____: ah, okay. Try #freenode for help with all that, then.
[05:42] <adam_____> rww: thanks.. see you later
[05:42] <Beldar> nicholas, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[05:43] <nicholas> Beldar, thank you
[05:45] <Beldar> no prob
[05:48] <migan> 35353
[05:58] <skinux> I'm having problems with '/' having no disk space after downloading latest Ubuntu version via apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:59] <rww> for starters, that's not a supported upgrade method, but anyways
[06:00] <rww> I'd try sudo apt-get clean and see if that helps
[06:02] <guest989855985> hi\
[06:03] <guest989855985> ubuntu 14.04 is not able to detect my NIC
[06:03] <guest989855985> ethtool shows it as link down
[06:03] <SirLagz> guest989855985: what NIC is it ?
[06:03] <SirLagz> guest989855985: is a network cable plugged in ?
[06:03] <skinux> I already tried that
[06:04] <aleb> I'm a Pitivi developer. I want to be able to manage the Pitivi bugs in Launchpad. For example, how can I mark most of them as expired - version 0.15 is not supported anymore.  For example this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pitivi/+bug/1265329
[06:04] <guest989855985> SirLagz: yes with rhel its getting dhcp reply
[06:04] <rww> skinux: okays. run filelight or disk usage analyzer / baobab and see what's taking up all your space, then
[06:04] <SirLagz> guest989855985: does ifconfig -a show eth0 ?
[06:04] <guest989855985> yes
[06:04] <SirLagz> guest989855985: assuming it only has one NIC
[06:04] <rww> skinux: presumably you'll need to clear out some cruft to be able to install one, though
[06:05] <SirLagz> guest989855985: you probably just need to bring it up then, Are you using NetworkManager ?
[06:05] <guest989855985> it has 8 NIC and i am sure its connected to proper NIC
[06:05] <guest989855985> tried ifconfig eth4 up and still ethtool is showing as link state:no
[06:05] <SirLagz> guest989855985: 8 NICs ? Are they all plugged in ?
[06:06] <rww> aleb: It's still relevant to Ubuntu, since it's a bug against a package in an Ubuntu version that we support. Regardless, you probably want #ubuntu-devel.
[06:06] <guest989855985> SirLagz:no only eth4 is connected
[06:06] <guest989855985> SirLagz: can this be a driver issue?
[06:06] <SirLagz> guest989855985: well then ubuntu probably isn't configured to bring up eth4
[06:06] <SirLagz> guest989855985: can you see eth0-7 in ifconfig -a ?
[06:06] <guest989855985> yes
[06:07] <SirLagz> guest989855985: I'd guess Ubuntu just isn't configured right then
[06:07] <guest989855985> SirLagz: in network/interfaces its set to dhcp
[06:07] <guest989855985> auto eth4 iface eth4 inet dhcp
[06:08] <SirLagz> guest989855985: what happens if you run ifup eth4 ?
[06:09] <guest989855985> making dhcp request but its not reaching dhcp server
[06:10] <guest989855985> SirLagz: can you confirm this,even if eth is not configured shouldnt it show link detected as:yes \
[06:10] <SirLagz> guest989855985: theoretically.
[06:10] <SirLagz> guest989855985: if you unplug the cable on eth4, and plug it back in, then check dmesg does it show the cable being unplugged and plugged back in ?
[06:11] <guest989855985> SirLagz:i dont have physical access,but there is no issue with link,as RHEL network boot is working fine
[06:12] <SirLagz> guest989855985: well, I'm out of ideas then.
[06:12] <SirLagz> guest989855985: sorry
[06:13] <guest989855985> its ok thanks for your help
[06:13] <adymitruk> rww: all sorted with my nick
[06:13] <rww> adymitruk: woot :)
[06:13] <adymitruk> ok.. so now to get oracle java updated
[06:14] <adymitruk> see if I can join other channels..
[06:18] <kke> hey. i have problems with my server, for some reason it wants to upgrade mariadb-server whenever i try to apt-get install something, this is not something i can do without planning a downtime etc. any ideas how to make it stop trying to upgrade it?
[06:18] <rww> !pinning
[06:18] <kke> let's see
[06:18] <rww> specifically, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Introduction_to_Holding_Packages
[06:19] <cabaire> exit
[06:20] <kke> "mariadb-server-5.5 was already set on hold"
[06:21] <kke> dpkg --list shows hFR mariadb-server-5.5                             5.5.28-mariadb-a1~oneiric
[06:22] <kke> and that is the version apt-get install -sf says it would want to install too
[06:22] <kke> so i guess it's broken somehow, eventhough it's running just fine
[06:22] <rww> why are you using -f?
[06:23] <kke> to fix apt-get
[06:23] <rww> okay, rather, how did it get broken in the first place?
[06:23] <kke> no idea. when i try to do something like apt-get install ncdu it says E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the mariadb-server-5.5 package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
[06:24] <junka> !14.10
[06:24] <junka> :OO
[06:24] <rww> kke: ah, there's actual problem
[06:25]  * rww ponders
[06:25]  * j4son loves unicorns
[06:25] <kke> great :)
[06:25] <rww> kke: does dpkg -L mariadb-server-5.5 return a list of files, or no?
[06:25] <kke> it does
[06:26] <kke> maybe dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq ?
[06:26] <rww> kke: you're using trusty, I assume?
[06:26] <kke> rww: oneiric
[06:27] <rww> sigh. oneiric's been end of life for a year, hasn't gotten security updates since then, and doesn't have mariadb in its repositories
[06:27] <kke> hopefully possible to upgrade sometime this summer
[06:28] <rww> and even ignoring that, I'm not seeing a way of fixing this that doesn't involve removing and reinstalling mariadb, which involves downtime :\
[06:28] <kke> maybe i try that remove-reinstreq thing
[06:28] <kke> since it's installed but apt is trying to reinstall for some reason
[06:29] <rww> because the package is broken and it's trying to fix it by reinstalling it
[06:30] <kke> maybe someone compiled it manually at some point
[06:31] <_2_Hershey> hey
[06:36] <Kartagis> is it the .desktop file that specifies under which menu a binary is? because I can't find such a line
[06:39] <_2_Hershey> hi
[06:40] <rww> _2_Hershey: hi. what's up?
[06:42] <sjaak_> test
[06:42] <junka> test1
[06:45] <tydra> Hey, Im installing ubuntu 14.04 on a new windows 8 machine from a usb. I can install ubtuntu to the partition I made, but then it boots to windows.
[06:47] <mapps> you installed it to the partition but its not giving you a choice of OS on boot?
[06:49] <Infantee> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[06:49] <raton> holaaaa
[06:50] <Infantee> que pasa puta
[06:50] <Infante> que pasa
[06:50] <Infantee> sos un puto
[06:50] <Infantee> heyyy
[06:50] <Infantee> how are you man?
[06:50] <papadupoulos> puto no mas
[06:50] <Infante> sos un boludo
[06:51] <Osama> bombs
[06:51] <Osama> bombs everywhere
[06:52] <Stalin> aplastar el capitalismo
[06:52] <kke> rww: i was able to install packages after removing the whole chunk about mariadb-server from /var/lib/dpkg/status
[06:53] <Stalin> perros alemanes
[06:53] <raton> para eso tu cielo
[07:02] <dnano91> hi, whenever i ssh from my windows machine to my ubuntu server i get strange encoding (eg with aptitude) even though it's set to utf8
[07:11] <tydra> Hi, I'm trying to get ubuntu up and running on my t300la. I set aside a partition and installed ubuntu via a live usb. I can not however boot ubuntu after installing, it boots straight to windows
[07:12] <salsero|2> tydra: /boot/efi ?
[07:14] <ghotler> hi all
[07:15] <ghotler> Has someone any experience about in new ubuntu (14.04), lightdm flashing screen glitch when connecting a new monitor?
[07:16] <ghotler> I'm not sure that lightdm is the problem, just a tipp.
[07:16] <Tazmain> hi all, I have a setup a vnc server on the ubuntu server, (pls don't ask about the GUI) but I can't seem to connect to it now. I have modified the xstartup file to start a xfce4 session. ?
[07:18] <mwally> question: on 14.04, is there anything special i need to do before upgrading a video card?  (550Ti to 780Ti) -- What will happen when I reboot with the new card in place of the old?
[07:19] <ikonia> mwally: is there a hard coded xorg.conf file in /etc ?
[07:19] <mwally> ikonia, nope, just the stuff that ubuntu and the proprietary drivers created for me.
[07:19] <ikonia> mwally: where did it create that stuff ?
[07:20] <roracle> Hey guys, wanted to know: I have 14.04 install image (tried 64 and now 32 bit) and it won't install.  On the THIRD SCREEN of installer, after the wi-fi setup, it asks if you want to download updates and install third party stuff.  I choose both (or don't, tried two ways) and click continue, but it hangs right there.HP Pavillion DV6000
[07:20] <mwally> ikonia, i really have no idea, I just made the changes in the "NVIDIA X Server Settings" app that came with the driver.
[07:21] <ikonia> mwally: so that suggests there is either an xorg.conf file or something in /etc/xorg.conf.d
[07:21] <mwally> ikonia, do I need to backup these files or something?
[07:21] <ikonia> mwally: no, just look if there is something there
[07:22] <asymetrixs> hi guys. I am struggelling with 'Startup Applications' in Gnome. I got firefox started, but when I tell it which URL to start, some charackters are interpreted wrong like % and &. I escaped them using firefire http://twitter.com?q=\%23bla\&f=realtime  but everything after 'bla' is missing and %23 is interpreted as 3, so basically q=3bla - how can I fix that?
[07:24] <nodedfree> :S
[07:24] <roracle> no takers?
[07:24] <asymetrixs> as workaround I will use bitly and forward the browser
[07:26] <SirLagz> roracle: sorry, missed the question...what's up ?
[07:26] <roracle> Hey guys, wanted to know: I have 14.04 install image (tried 64 and now 32 bit) and it won't install.  On the THIRD SCREEN of installer, after the wi-fi setup, it asks if you want to download updates and install third party stuff.  I choose both (or don't, tried two ways) and click continue, but it hangs right there.HP Pavillion DV6000
[07:26] <Tazmain> Does anyone know how to setup tightvnc server ?
[07:27] <SirLagz> roracle: are you trying to install over wifi ? Can you try and plug ethernet in ?
[07:27] <roracle> no i'm installing from a USB drive and it has to connect to the net.  i'm at work actually so there is no ethernet plug at the desk
[07:28] <SirLagz> roracle: ah. Are you connecting to the work wifi or something ?
[07:28] <mwally> ikonia, I don't see anything about xorg in /etc/ at all.  It looks like the xorg config files live in usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/, and even there i'm not seeing anything that resembles video settings.  http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=at9UXUuQ
[07:28] <roracle> yes, and it generally works, i've never had problems with anything (they keep it like a home wifi for guests because it's a hotel and we can't anticipate what services people _won't_ use so we have a wifi set up for general use)
[07:28] <ikonia> mwally: all looks good, so you should be fine just swapping the cards then, as there is nothing hard coded
[07:29] <SirLagz> mwally: /etc/X11 is where xorg.conf should live. If you don't have it in there, it just means that X is autodetecting everything
[07:29] <SirLagz> roracle: is there a proxy on the wifi network ?
[07:30] <roracle> not that i know of.  but like i said, i've tried this without the internet connect and it still hangs, so it can't be the internet
[07:30] <roracle> unless the code tries to connect if there is service or not, that's the only way i could say it's a network problem
[07:30] <mwally> ikonia, SirLagz, thank you for your help.
[07:31] <roracle> (ie: if in the code it goes, "choose ethernet, if connected download, else download, next screen)
[07:31] <SirLagz> roracle: not sure then...I haven't installed Ubuntu over WiFi before.
[07:31] <roracle> i'm not installing over wifi
[07:31] <roracle> i'm installing with a USB drive
[07:31] <roracle> full install, and i've told it to not download things, but it still locks up
[07:31] <SirLagz> roracle: sorry, I meant using USB
[07:31] <roracle> oh, i thought it was the preferred method
[07:32] <SirLagz> roracle: I normally netboot a ubuntu install lol
[07:32] <SirLagz> but I haven't had to do that in a while now
[07:32] <roracle> well i guess i'll try a few other things, maybe bring it to a vacant room and plug it in to the ethernet
[07:35] <helmut_> hi
[07:35] <nodedfree> hi
[07:36] <nodedfree> how do you feel today
[07:41] <ghotler> I have the same issue, on Intel graphic card in 14.04: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NioFiN11oU
[07:41] <ghotler> Has anyone the else too?
[07:41] <MrBender22> hi all, is there a way to set the max time ssh client will wait before timing out?
[07:41] <ghotler> -the
[07:42] <salsero|2> MrBender22:  ye
[07:42] <SirLagz> MrBender22: set ConnectTimeout in ssh_config
[07:43] <nodedfree> SirLagz, where is this config positioned?
[07:43] <SirLagz> /etc/ssh/ssh_config for systemwide
[07:43] <MrBender22> nodedfree: /etc/ssh_config
[07:43] <nodedfree> thx
[07:44] <SirLagz> or ~/.ssh/config for a user config file
[07:44] <nodedfree> after changing reboot for the vps required?
[07:44] <MrBender22> SirLagz: thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for, missed it when I was in there
[07:44] <SirLagz> MrBender22: no problems.
[07:44] <SirLagz> nodedfree: for a ssh server configuration change ?
[07:45] <lagbox> man totem is crap
[07:45]  * nodedfree SirLagz, yes
[07:45] <SirLagz> nodedfree: don't need to reboot, just restart the ssh server
[07:45]  * nodedfree SirLagz, isn't it the same? ^_^
[07:45] <SirLagz> nodedfree: nope.
[07:45] <randypfau> does anyone know a command that will display a log of any sort of boot or driver errors upon startup of ubuntu?  --- Im adding hardware to my system, and when I do I do not get a boot... when i remove the hardware and boot it works. Im just tryin to figure out what the problem is...
[07:45] <SirLagz> nodedfree: /etc/init.d/ssh restart is not the same as a reboot.
[07:46] <SirLagz> randypfau: buggered hardware ?
[07:46] <MrBender22> randypfau: I think you are looking for dmesg
[07:46] <lagbox> dmesg
[07:47] <SirLagz> randypfau: when you say you don't get a boot, do you mean you can't get into a terminal at all ?
[07:47] <randypfau> okay cool ill try dmesg... its an issue with hard drives... im working on a headless server right now which makes it harder, but i got SSH to the machine, whenever i add an aditional hard drive i dont get a boot... im lead to believe its getting hung up on the bios
[07:48] <SirLagz> randypfau: dmesg won't help if the server doesn't even get to linux...
[07:48] <randypfau> when it doesnt boot, i mean... i start the machine, and go to my laptop to connect to the server... i check my routers DHCP table and the mac address to the server doesnt show up. also i do not hear the hard drive with the linux file system start to spin up
[07:48] <Jordan_U> randypfau: If the BIOS is trying to boot from the new drive, and the new drive has no bootloader (or a broken one) that would explain the problem.
[07:48] <MrBender22> randypfau: How many drives in the box currently?
[07:49] <randypfau> hmmmm :/ ... one thing that is odd is that the bays I am inserting the hard drives into are supposed to be 'hot swappable' and they were... when i was running Windows Home Server
[07:50]  * MrBender22 going to bed
[07:50] <randypfau> the design is a HP Mediacenter EX470. it is a small compact case, no vga, just an esata in the rear, some usbs, and 4 bays for sata drives in the front... slot 1 is the bay that runs the HD with the OS, but whenever i shut down and add drives, i do not get a boot... ive tried various disks
[07:50] <Jordan_U> randypfau: Did you see my last message?
[07:51] <randypfau> i wonder if i have to download somthing into ubuntu in order for my hardware to hotswap?
[07:51] <SirLagz> randypfau: no, this is hardware related if you're not even getting into linux
[07:52] <SirLagz> randypfau: does the disk work in another machine ?
[07:52] <randypfau> Jordan_U the drive i added was a freshly formatted ext4 drive with nothing on it...
[07:52] <randypfau> yes, it works in the other machine
[07:52] <keezi> please, tell me: if I build binary as "static", does it mean that it requires only Linux kernel to run?
[07:54] <keezi> Or, in another words, - if I build, for example, busybox as "static", does it mean that I not require any libc6 at all? Or can you advice me appropriate channel?
[07:54] <Jordan_U> randypfau: So it indeed does not have a working bootloader, that is a problem if your BIOS is trying to boot from it.
[07:56] <randypfau> i have ubuntu server w/ grub installed on the main disk for the server... the other 3 slots are for storage disks, so yea... i guess i dont have a bootloader on thoes 3 disks.. would i need them for ubuntu? im not trying to boot off them.. i eventually want to mount them to the filesystem but not boot from them per se
[07:57] <hillary> i install windows and ubuntu 12.04 in my machine but only windows boot. where is my ubuntu
[07:57] <Rory> !grub | hillary
[07:57] <Rory> hillary: Did you install Windows after installing Ubuntu?
[07:59] <SirLagz> randypfau: does theserver have remote access so you can see the console as you boot it up ?
[07:59] <SirLagz> randypfau: iLO or anything like that ?
[08:01] <Jordan_U> randypfau: You need them to have a bootloader, or at least not have a 55AA signature, if there is any chance your BIOS will try to boot from them. The same is true for any OS, as you're not even getting to the OS's code if the BIOS gets hung up executing junk from your data drives.
[08:07] <Jordan_U> randypfau: Since these are "freshly formatted" you can easily test this by dding zeroes to first sector of the drive, zeroing the 55 AA signature. That should (with a non buggy BIOS) prevent the BIOS from trying to boot the drive.
[08:08] <randypfau> Jordan_U  sounds interesting :) u know how I could do that using my windows pc?
[08:08] <Jordan_U> randypfau: It will also make all data inaccessible. If you want to keep the partition table intact you can use a hex editor to just remove the 55 AA.
[08:09] <Jordan_U> randypfau: No idea, try asking in ##windows.
[08:09] <randypfau> cool :) will do. thx for ur help, ill see wut happens
[08:10] <Jordan_U> randypfau: You're welcome.
[08:10] <raoul__> Hi all. Hoping I can get some help here. I have never been on an irc channel so forgive me and educate me if I am not following protocol
[08:10] <Rory> raoul__: Go ahead and ask your question / describe your problem
[08:11] <DJones> raoul__: Welcome to the Ubuntu support channel, just ask your question, and people will see if they can help
[08:11] <raoul__> I am trying to install Unbuntu server onto a Thecus N5200 NAS.
[08:11] <Rory> raoul__: What was the device running before?
[08:11] <tuakshay> Hello Guys !!!
[08:11] <tuakshay> Anyone here to help me ??
[08:11] <raoul__> I have come across a few guides and they all start with replacing the DOM and install onto the DOM. I do not understand why this is required. Can I install straight onto the HDD.
[08:12] <raoul__> I did the install created RAID butapparently completed OK but on boot no disk found.
[08:12] <Rory> raoul__: Probably not, since it's an appliance sort of device, it will only boot from the integrated flash
[08:12] <raoul__> Obviously the QNAP is unable to detect or boot from the raid. not sure how to preceed
[08:13] <Rory> raoul__: If all the guides say to replace the flash chip, then that is probably what needs to be done
[08:14] <raoul__> I have been able to access the BIOs and get it to boot from USB to start the install but after completing the install it won't boot the RAID. Can I create a grub install on the USB pointing to the RAID?
[08:14] <Jordan_U> randypfau: Yes.
[08:14] <Jordan_U> raoul__: Yes.
[08:15] <raoul__> ok. asking that question is about as far as my linux knowledge goes. Can you point or advise on how to proceed.
[08:16] <Jordan_U> raoul__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[08:17] <Jordan_U> raoul__: Though I would try just installing grub's boot sector to all of the imternal drives first.
[08:18] <hillary> any help
[08:18] <SirLagz> hillary: help for what?
[08:18] <bazhang> !details | hillary
[08:18] <raoul__> the auto installer seemed to do this. I did not pay that much attention byt it did seem to list the 4 drives comprising the raid
[08:20] <Jordan_U> raoul__: The installer is a little dumb when it comes to setups like this and only installs grub's boot sector to one drive by default.
[08:22] <raoul__> from memory it offered a command like .... /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sde /dev/sdd. I interpreted this as it was installing grub to all 4 drives. I will check in the BIOS and see if the bios is seeing the HDD. On boot just now I believe it showed primary none, secondary none.
[08:23] <mashu> Hey. I have dual monitors. They are set up in the correct order once logged in. How do I change the order of the monitors display at the login screen?
[08:24] <foofoobar> Hi. A dist-upgrade failed because the connection to the machine dropped (fault of my connection). apt-get is now "frozen": http://hastebin.com/ukiwebevoq.hs
[08:24] <foofoobar> What is a save way to recover from this now ?
[08:24] <mashu> Can anyone help?
[08:24] <HardFu> I have a strange problem, I'm running remote_syslog, which is a ruby script for remote logging
[08:24] <HardFu> and it 'dies' overnight, always
[08:25] <HardFu> ./apport.log:ERROR: apport (pid 9073) Thu Apr 24 06:56:17 2014: script: /home/deploy/.bundler/api/ruby/2.1.0/bin/remote_syslog, interpreted by /usr/local/bin/ruby (command line "ruby /home/deploy/.bundler/api/ruby/2.1.0/bin/remote_syslog -c /srv/www/api/releases/20140422133147/config/remote_syslog.yml --pid-file /srv/www/api/releases/20140422133147/tmp/pids/remote_syslog.pid")
[08:25] <HardFu> with this
[08:25] <SirLagz> mashu: what GPU ? How have you got the dual screens configured ?
[08:25] <ment0s_> hello
[08:25] <mashu> I have a ASUS GeForce 660ti
[08:25] <mashu> Nvidia
[08:25] <ment0s_>  could someone advive how to get list of installed packages on debian system when I cannot chroot into it but have full access to partition it is installed ?
[08:26] <bazhang> ment0s_, try in #debian
[08:26] <SirLagz> mashu: did you configure the dual screens with the nvidia config utility ?
[08:26] <mashu> I have the screens configured on login, so that the left screen is the left screen and the right screen is the right screen.
[08:27] <mashu> However, at the login screen, the left screen is right and the right screen is the left.
[08:27] <jmcs> I think I accidentally removed the indicator-session icon (it's showing a fallback icon) does anyone know how can I get it back?
[08:27] <SirLagz> mashu: swap em around, then use the nvidia config utility to configure it the right way again ?
[08:28] <ment0s_> bazhang: yeah usually #debian dont answer any questions nfortunately
[08:28] <bazhang> ment0s_, so be patient
[08:30] <mashu> By Nvidia Config Utility, you mean Nvidia X Server Settings? I have them in the right order in in Nvidia X Server Settings and System Settings > Screen Display.
[08:31] <Guest88510> test
[08:32] <mashu> xazhai65
[08:32] <LrdArc> hi! i got this when trying to open gimp, Failed to create thumbnail folder '/home/MY-USER-NAME/.thumbnails/normal'.. it may happens after I changed my home password. does anyone know hot to fix it?
[08:33] <Wulf> hi
[08:34] <Wulf> does the "Radeon HD 8570D" graphics work in ubuntu 14.04?
[08:35] <nestle20> when using rsync to basically mirror/sync a folder from 1 machine to another.. im doing rsync -avP -e ssh root@domain.com:/home/dir ./
[08:35] <nestle20> should i be using -avrP ? (-r ? )
[08:36] <nestle20> i mean i want *everything* in /home/dir but for the longest time ive been doing -avP and i just realized i didnt have -r
[08:37] <SirLagz> mashu: yes, I meant the Nvidia X Server Settings. Can you pastebin your xorg.conf ?
[08:38] <useless-user> hey all, just a short question ... wanted to install mariadb but someone configured dependencies that mysql-workbench must be removed entirely (due to dependencies to the client libs). wonder how it is possible to use mariadb locally and workbench for connecting to remote servers? any help appreciated
[08:38] <lagbox> how significant is the resource use from latest gnome desktop compared to current unity ?
[08:38] <mashu> I'm new to IRC. How do I paste bin. Can you give me a link? Sure I can paste the config file.
[08:39] <lagbox> mashu !paste
[08:39] <lagbox> oops
[08:41] <kingplusplus> hello guys, my harddrive was removed due to water spilling in my laptop. After servicing my laptop and inserting the drive. Windows wouldn't boot when i select to boot windows. from the grub menu I see Windows bootloader (sda1/) something like that instead of Windows 7
[08:42] <lagbox> wow vlc ... crashalicious today
[08:43] <sosowang_> :/join #DeliveryHeroChina
[08:44] <Guest0r> What's the difference between installing Steam via the Software Centre, and just getting the .deb from the Valve site?
[08:50] <antony> Hello All, I have to install ubuntu 12..04 in 100 Machines. Want to deploy over network automatically.. Can you let me know how to do this?
[08:51] <ido370> lmgtfy.... or not
[08:51] <TJ-> Guest0r: Via the software centre any updates will be notified and delivered automatically. If you manually download the .deb, you'll have to keep a watch manually for any security or bug-fix releases, and download/install them yourself.
[08:52] <nestle20> when i launch 255 instances of rsync im getting errors (on some of them) saying rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [Receiver] and rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(605) [Receiver=3.0.9]
[08:52] <Guest0r> TJ-: ah ok, so via the software centre is like adding a repo, rather than just installing the .deb?
[08:52] <nestle20> and ssh: Could not resolve hostname (domain.com): Name or service not known
[08:52] <nestle20> i set MaxStartups to 500 on both machines
[08:52] <Yelu> !pastebinit|mashu
[08:52] <nestle20> am using rsync --delete -avrP -e ssh root@box:/path /path
[08:53] <TJ-> Guest0r: unless something has changed in the software centre recently, it is just another GUI front-end to the apt tools that work from the installed sources.list entries
[08:53] <Guest0r> TJ-: ok great answer, thanks for the help TJ
[08:54] <TJ-> Guest0r: I know software-centre will be automatically associated with .deb files and present them too, when they are downloaded. As far as I know that method of install is still of the "manual" variety, and you'd still have to keep a watch for updates unless the DEB package you install also installs its own additional repository sources.list, of course.
[08:54] <rcmaehl_webchat> I just upgraded using do-release-upgrade and now I'm stuck at a grub rescue terminal because 'grub_term_highlight_color' could not be found
[08:55] <rcmaehl_webchat> Could someone walk me through the steps to get through the grub recovery console
[08:56] <Guest0r> TJ-: ok cool, (FYI (me) http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/)
[08:56] <TJ-> rcmaehl_webchat: If it's simple, you can try: "insmod normal"  then "normal" and if you're lucky, that will start the grub menu that you'd get from holding down "Shift", from where you should be able to manually fix-up and boot
[08:57] <Tazmain> hi all I have tightvnc server install now if I run it from a normal user I cannot connect to it, but if I at as root and then start it , it works. How do I fix it so that I can use it normally ?
[08:57] <TJ-> Guest0r: I'd guess then, that you can install the sources.list  for steam, and it'll be handled by apt as part of the regular package management sources
[08:57] <rcmaehl_webchat> TJ-: insmod normal throws "error: symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found"
[09:02] <zetheroo> rcmaehl_webchat: upgrading from 13.10 to 14.04?
[09:02] <omg_scout> hello;) I have a problem after update to 14.04 from 13.10. I've noticed that interfaces runs slower, especially visible on workspace switching or scrolling in browser, where it lags. glxinfo says I am using fresh driver. Where else can the problem be?
[09:02] <rcmaehl_webchat> zetheroo: Yes sir
[09:02] <TJ-> rcmaehl_webchat: OK, you have bug #1289977. So you need to set it temporarily then... this is from hazy memory but try doing "set grub_term_highlight_color=white"
[09:02] <mikubuntu> omg. this laptop is driving me crazy. i had loaded studio on it several mos ago and then lent to a friend. since i got it back from her it is acting ALL BUGGED OUT, and the weird/strange thing is that it seems to have somehow switched to a low latency (non?) pae status, which i'm quite certain it was not. is it possible that my friend did something to alter it? it almost never boots on first try, and many times on second try i have
[09:03] <TJ-> rcmaehl_webchat: After setting the variable, do "normal" again and *hope* ... then you can fix the problem correctly once you've managed to boot
[09:04] <mikubuntu> i have to go thru the motions of a recovery mode boot before resuming normal boot. then when it finally does boot, it gets buggy about loading pages, videos get all skippy, etc.
[09:04] <zetheroo> rcmaehl_webchat: hmmm ... it seems you are not alone in this issue ... however my upgrade completed without the issue ... You sure you don't want to perform a clean install!? - This is an LTS afterall ;)
[09:05] <rcmaehl_webchat> zetheroo: I might, but I'm currently out if installation media and stores don't open for another ~2+ hours.
[09:06] <Dumble> Hello everyone
[09:06] <zetheroo>  rcmaehl_webchat: shucks .. no USB sticks laying around?
[09:07] <rcmaehl_webchat> zetheroo: All dead from use
[09:08] <Daulity> hey all :)
[09:09] <Daulity> I have used a program before that lets me reboot without turning the power of my laptop off, but i can't quite remember the name of the program
[09:09] <Daulity> any ideas ?
[09:09] <zetheroo>  rcmaehl_webchat: ic - do you have install media for 13.10 ? You could reinstall that and then update fully before finally performing an upgrade to 14.04 ... probably by then the shops will be open :)
[09:09] <Dumble> I have a problem with an application that uses Qt5 and QtQuick 1.1 (not yet the 2.2) : when I load a QML file with an XmlListModel inside it (using qmlviewer), I have this error : "Qt was built without support for xmlpatterns", is there a way to solve it ?
[09:10] <ubuntuser13> ubuntu 14.04 64bit  boot is slow  sometimes shows black screen for few seconds
[09:10] <rcmaehl_webchat> zetheroo: Never mind, I fixed it. Reading into the issue, it appears to be caused by the fact grub doesn't update all boot loaders and can easily upgrade the grub on another device instead.
[09:10] <Dumble> I am using trusty and Qt 5.2.1
[09:11] <Dumble> and the issue seems similar to this bug : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=915923
[09:11] <zetheroo> rcmaehl_webchat: awesome! - though a fresh install may not be a bad idea at some point .. ;)
[09:12] <nox_> доброго времени суток, подскажите пожалуйста как запустить терминал с места дириктории в которой я уже нахожусь?
[09:12] <DJones> !ru | nox_
[09:16] <james0r> when battery is 5% or less, both of my laptops refuse to suspend
[09:16] <james0r> i'm on xubuntu but this has happened with all debian based distros i've used.
[09:17] <Yelu> Daulity, a program to reboot, really? - Let's try: Click on the gear symbol upper right corner, on your screen, click "Shut down", click button [ Restart ] ... (or I missed your point)
[09:19] <agent_white> Daulity: Put this in a bash script. (shutdown.sh) `shutdown -r`
[09:19] <TJ-> james0r: That is expected. 5% power isn't considered enough to sustain contents of RAM for long enough so rather than allow loss of work, the decision is to refuse to suspend so that the user takes appropriate action to prevent data loss
[09:19] <agent_white> Maybe put `#!/bin/bash` at the top as well.
[09:19] <agent_white> no tickers.
[09:19] <eduardo_> any troubles upgrading from 13.10 to 14.04 ?.... im facing the problem that not enough free space in /boot...seems ubuntu doesnt update well kernels....
[09:19] <james0r> TJ-, great explanation and that makes perfect sense. thanks.
[09:20] <TJ-> james0r: Of course, the 5% value is based on the assumption that battery lifes are relatively short... if you had a battery that lasted a week, 5% would still be a large absolute value, and maybe quite sufficient.
[09:20] <Yelu> agent_white, yes, and will it execute then?
[09:20] <james0r> TJ-, true. i'm unfortunately not a week-long battery owner.
[09:21] <randi> upgrade successful from 13.10 to 14.04.....!
[09:21] <Daulity> Yelu: agent_white a program that reboots or reloads kernal i believe, without turning my computer of :) cause the start screen takes so damn long
[09:21] <Daulity> bios screen
[09:21] <james0r> TJ-, but on my netbook 5% does mean about 20 to 30 minutes and that is where i find this most annoying
[09:21] <TJ-> james0r: hehehe no, not many are unless there's UPSes involved
[09:21] <TJ-> james0r: Maybe it is possible to change the 5% value
[09:22] <james0r> yeah i google'd around but didn't see much about it
[09:22] <eduardo_> any devs here or place to notice bugs....or possibly bugs..
[09:22] <james0r> maybe most just accept it as being in their best interest.
[09:22] <Tazmain> Hi all, does anyone here know how to setup tightvnc server ?
[09:22] <CornishPasty> Am I being stupid here, or does the ruby2.0 package rely on ruby1.9? Wat?
[09:23] <CornishPasty> (In 14.04)
[09:23] <Yelu> Daulity, ok, I missed the point then ...
[09:25] <Daulity> Yelu: i believe i have found it :) i believe it was called Kexec :)
[09:25] <Yelu> Daulity, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RapidReboot
[09:27] <inawarminister> Hi!
[09:27] <inawarminister> Sorry I need help ASAP
[09:28] <inawarminister> so I am on Xubuntu 14.04 and I used http://askubuntu.com/posts/151047/revisions to set proxy
[09:28] <nestle20> ok so when i try to resolve many domains in 500 instances.. i get Could not resolve hostname -- is there somethign on the system i need to change to allow my box to run many dns requests or resolving
[09:28] <nestle20> or a value
[09:28] <inawarminister> Now I don't need the proxy and already removed the settings on /environment/ and apt, but
[09:28] <eduardo_> any devs here or place to notice bugs....or possible bugs..
[09:28] <inawarminister> how do I reset the GTK3/Gnome proxy setting?
[09:29] <inawarminister> I've tried using gsettings set org.gnome.system.proxy mode 'none'
[09:30] <onca> inawarminister, isn't that set in network settings under network proxy?
[09:30] <inawarminister> Oh, and I have a USB DAC made by  C-Media Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter, and it doesn't output audio?
[09:30] <inawarminister> onca: I'm using Xubuntu, there's no app here
[09:30] <inawarminister> I've tried downloaded Unity but network settings still doesn't show up
[09:31] <OerHeks> inawarminister, use that same howto to reverse your changes?
[09:31] <inawarminister> I've tried setting gsetting proxy to 'none'
[09:31] <inawarminister> since I remember network proxy app has that as the name
[09:33] <inawarminister> eh I've fixed it, thanks to d-conf. Thankfully
[09:34] <inawarminister> Now uh, can someone tell me how to fix stuffs so that my USB DAC can output sound?
[09:34] <mrtAkdeniz> Guys, I installed vsftpd, but it always say: "530 Login incorrect."
[09:35] <brejoc> hi @all - anyone here that can point me into the right direction? phpldapadmin deb-package seems to be broken. where can i report the issue? http://bit.ly/RNTLjg
[09:35] <TJ-> inawarminister: 1st check the device itself is known to ALSA and to Pulseaudio. If so, select it as the (default) output sink.
[09:35] <roracle> okay guys i've tried installing Mint this time, and I keep running into the same issue.  it isn't trying to connect to the internet, it's trying to access the hard drive.  the problem with this is universal for me: every time, no matter what i do, when I install a Linux system, it takes FOREVER and often times HANGS when trying to get to the partition data
[09:36] <inawarminister> TJ: yes, using sounds tab in setting, there's a new output
[09:36] <roracle> before anyone says anything, though i'm installing mint, the problem was persistant with Ubuntu and various other ubuntu flavors
[09:36] <roracle> every single computer i install ubuntu on it does this
[09:37] <inawarminister> TJ: but it isn't working
[09:37] <inawarminister> the name is generic: Analogue Output - Audio Adapter
[09:37] <TJ-> inawarminister: I have a similar set-up here, and using the Pulseaudio mixer I can "move" application outputs to the USB device, and set it as the default for some types of output (I have it for media but not for notifications, for example)
[09:37] <inawarminister> Which is wrong, since this is a DAC (and shows up in lsusb)
[09:37] <zemaman> soooo
[09:37] <zemaman> what's up??
[09:37] <inawarminister> TJ: ah, but was your DAC shows up directly?
[09:38] <inawarminister> This model does in 12.04
[09:38] <zetheroo> roracle: so you install Ubuntu and then it reboots into the OS ... ?
[09:38] <TJ-> inawarminister: That means, if the device is working, you may need to alter the 'profile' pulseaudio is using. Again, I had that, and had to select "7.1 surround sound + analogue input" or some such
[09:38] <zemaman> may i ask questions even if use a different debian OS?
[09:39] <inawarminister> TJ: that's using default unity install right? hmm...
[09:39] <k1l> zemaman: better ask in #debian then
[09:39] <inawarminister> Damnit XFCE is nice but it keeps failing on me, firs tproxy then this
[09:39] <TJ-> inawarminister: Best thing is to use the basic ALSA device sound test tools first to be sure the device will produce sound, then move on up the software stack to Pulseaudio and its profiles and sinks
[09:39] <zemaman> they are noobs
[09:40] <roracle> no no no, it's the installer program, please listen:  imagine running a fresh install, it comes to the language screen, continue.  connect to internet, continue.  make sure connect to net, enough free space, download updates, install 3rd party, continue...hang
[09:40] <inawarminister> TJ: uuuh, can you help me for that?
[09:40] <zetheroo> roracle: when you "it isn't trying to connect to the Internet etc ..." , what is "it"!?
[09:40] <TJ-> inawarminister: I use KDE since Unity is broken with my multi-GPU configuration, but I'm using the ALSA+Pulseaudio tools, nothing Unity specific.
[09:40] <roracle> zetheroo: read above
[09:40] <inawarminister> TJ: I've tried following this step: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2199911&p=12906206#post12906206
[09:40] <zetheroo> reading
[09:40] <Tazmain> What is the best way to remote desktop to linux ?
[09:41] <TJ-> inawarminister: I started here when there are issues: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[09:41] <zetheroo> roracle: so install hangs at installing 3rd party packages ..
[09:41] <roracle> no, that's the options on the screen
[09:41] <mrtAkdeniz> Nobody knows FTP Server on ubuntu?
[09:41] <roracle> i'm describing thescreens
[09:42] <roracle> it's the third screen (or second screen if you are already connected to the internet) of the installer program
[09:42] <roracle> it has the three check marks
[09:42] <roracle> then the two options to "download updates" and to "install 3rd party software" and THEN YOU CLICK NEXT and the software HANGS
[09:42] <zetheroo> roracle: so at what point during the install does your system hang?
[09:42] <schebas> Hey guys! I'm trying to clean an old server. Node was installed through apt. So i removed node - apt-get remove node. but the installation is still there -> $which node ==> /usr/local/bin/node. Any ideas? Should i just remove the file. dpkg says it's not installed in the system. But i seem to still be there. ideas?
[09:42] <agent_white> Yelu: Figure it out?
[09:43] <eduardo_> where can i adress to possibly bug in upgrading kernels ???
[09:43] <Greylocks> roracle: try installing without adding third party software.
[09:43] <roracle> i've tried various thing
[09:43] <roracle> *things
[09:43] <zetheroo> roracle: have you tried installing without downloading updates?
[09:43] <TJ-> roracle: Yes, a known issue, I've seen that several times when the Ubiquity Installer tries to do Internet access even if you explicitly tell it not to.
[09:43] <roracle> listen to me, it's the partition manager
[09:43] <roracle> it won't go into that part
[09:43] <jasabella> hi
[09:43] <Yelu> agent_white, no, but you have to set execution rights on your script, xes?
[09:43] <zetheroo> roracle: do you have this issue with previous Ubuntu versions?
[09:43] <agent_white> Daulity: Ohhh didn't see your response! Reboot/reload kernel due to start screen? Sounds like a different issue to me!
[09:43] <oxffffff> hello I have a small problem, which is not actually a problem. I mean that when I autohide Unity Bar, any new opened window is positioned with a gap, margin from screen border size of Unity Bar. How to reconfigure any new opened window to align to screen border?
[09:43] <roracle> i've experienced this before, and only on systems with NTFS hard drives
[09:43] <roracle> yes i have
[09:43] <OerHeks> roracle, if updates cannot be downloaded, it take a few minutes to continue, or just start the installer without?
[09:44] <agent_white> Yelu: Oh nevermind, I was trying to help Daulity. But his issue seems to be of a different kind!
[09:44] <krambiorix> hi, i upgraded from 13.04 to 14.04 but now all my web applications in my /var/www folder are broken. It's like apache doesn't parse my PHP scripts... What can i do?
[09:44] <roracle> it isn't the internet guys
[09:44] <zetheroo> roracle: have you ever made a successful Ubuntu install on this particular hardware?
[09:44] <roracle> not yet
[09:44] <roracle> on other systems, it's hit or miss
[09:44] <schebas> krambiorix: did you check the permissions?
[09:44] <roracle> but listen: it's when the hard drive has only NTFS as a drive
[09:44] <zetheroo> roracle: has any OS been running on this hardware?
[09:45] <Yelu> agent_white, peace ;-) => he's already got a solution
[09:45] <roracle> i'm explaining that already guys :P
[09:45] <krambiorix> schebas, which ones?
[09:45] <agent_white> Yelu: Good deal! :)
[09:45] <Maxiebyte> zetheroo: For me, ubuntu works
[09:45] <krambiorix> schebas, all are root.www-data
[09:45] <agent_white> krambiorix: Post your apache logs to a gist or a pastebin, and then people can help!
[09:45] <schebas> @krambiorix: in the /var/www
[09:45] <roracle> i know what the problem is because it happens ONLY in this situation
[09:45] <zetheroo> roracle: Can you boot into a Live session of Ubuntu?
[09:45] <roracle> yes i can
[09:46] <jasabella> does kubuntu's kde configure networking independently of /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:46] <zetheroo> roracle: and then can you format the HDD to ext4 ?
[09:46] <roracle> well during the installer, no.  but i'm about to try doing it in the live session
[09:46] <zetheroo> roracle: can you start Disks in the live session?
[09:46] <zetheroo> ok
[09:46] <roracle> i'm rewriting Ubuntu 14.04 right now to the USB drive
[09:46] <krambiorix> schebas, yes
[09:47] <roracle> i'll let you know
[09:47] <inawarminister> TJ: urhg, still not working
[09:47] <oxffffff> If I hide Unity Bar any new wind0w will pop up positioned like Unity Bar was there. How to fix that?
[09:47] <krambiorix> agent_white, nothing in the logs
[09:48] <trojanfm> HELLO ALL :D
[09:48] <agent_white> krambiorix: You have to post them first so people can go over them! ;)
[09:48] <agent_white> Replicate the issue, post the logs that show the issue occurring.
[09:48] <agent_white> trojanfm: \o
[09:48] <trojanfm> ??
[09:49] <oxffffff> nobody knows?
[09:50] <krambiorix> agent_white, as you wish: http://pastebin.com/EZ7zYGjh
[09:50] <harry_> hi
[09:50] <harry_> I have trouble accessing utorrent through localhost:8080/gui
[09:50] <harry_> can somebody help me with that?
[09:51] <harry_> I am just a beginner and probably make some easy-to-solve mistakes
[09:51] <kingplusplus> please how do i get the Whiskermenu Menu in xubuntu
[09:51] <agent_white> krambiorix: _Full_ logs? Where are you getting that from? http://askubuntu.com/questions/14763/where-are-the-apache-and-php-log-files
[09:51] <kingplusplus> i have upgraded to 14.04 xubuntu but i am not getting the whisker menu
[09:51] <agent_white> krambiorix: Also, http://www.electrictoolbox.com/view-apache-logs-tail-grep-egrep/
[09:52] <krambiorix> agent_white, that was the apache error.log
[09:52] <agent_white> krambiorix: 2 lines of it.
[09:52] <agent_white> krambiorix: Read what I said above, and make another pastie.
[09:52] <oxffffff> is it happening because of "smart algorithm" window placement?
[09:53] <harry_> I don know if it is appropiate but I will just repeat my question: Can somebody help me? I am having trouble accessing utorrent through localhost:8080/gui?
[09:54] <krambiorix> agent_white, ok forget it. That was the part after my upgrade to 14.04
[09:54] <Rory> harry_: Do you get an error message?
[09:54] <harry_> no
[09:55] <agent_white> krambiorix: Just keep looking, and you'll find something. I would HIGHLY recommend loading up apache and everything, 'tailing` the log file while you navigate to your website
[09:55] <agent_white> You'll definitely see something.
[09:55] <OerHeks> harry_,  so what is your issue, what happens or what not?
[09:55] <harry_> nothing happens
[09:55] <harry_> when I access I first have to login
[09:55] <harry_> I use login: admin password: "
[09:55] <krambiorix> agent_white, yeah that's what i do , but nothing
[09:56] <fubard> my ubuntu just got fubard, please advice
[09:56] <fubard> hope im being specific enough kthx
[09:56] <harry_> that looks fine but then it does not do anything
[09:56] <agent_white> krambiorix: Keep looking :)
[09:56] <krambiorix> agent_white, are the permissions for my files in /var/www correct: root.www-data ?
[09:56] <krambiorix> perms = owners
[09:56] <harry_> @OerHeks: the screen remains empty
[09:57] <harry_> and I am sorry for being a total noob but how can I send messages to specific persons?
[09:57] <thermoman> upgrading mysql-server on saucy freezes with apt-get error message: invoke-rc.d: policy-rc.d denied execution of stop.
[09:57] <agent_white> krambiorix: http://askubuntu.com/questions/162866/correct-permissions-for-var-www-and-wordpress
[09:57] <fubard> here's the dump http://pastebin.com/0E2jg7rM .anything I try to install I get this error http://pastebin.com/0E2jg7rM
[09:57] <agent_white> krambiorix: I googled "var www permissions apache" for that answer.
[10:01] <Rory> harry_: Did you follow a guide to set it up?
[10:01] <harry_> yes
[10:01] <Rory> harry_: What do you see in your browser when you go to http://localhost:8080/gui ?
[10:01] <Rory> harry_: Could you please give me a link to the guide?
[10:01] <harry_> http://www.howopensource.com/2011/08/install-utorrent-in-ubuntu-fedora/
[10:02] <Rory> harry_: What's the output of the command "cat /etc/issue" ?
[10:02] <fubard> I'm getting this shit whenver I need to run ANYTHING http://pastebin.com/0E2jg7rM
[10:02] <Rory> !pm | harry_
[10:03] <harry_> output is ubuntu 14.04 LTS\n \l
[10:03] <Rory> harry_: What do you see in your browser when you go to http://localhost:8080/gui ?
[10:03] <harry_> literally nothing
[10:03] <harry_> not even a warning or anything
[10:04] <OerHeks> harry_, edit the  utserver.conf  to see if webgui is enabled?
[10:04] <Rory> harry_: Can you run this command: "netstat -tulpn | grep 8080"
[10:05] <harry_> yes
[10:05] <Rory> harry_: And tell me what the output is, assuming it's a single line. If it's a multiple lines, put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:05] <harry_> itś multiple lines
[10:05] <Rory> Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[10:06] <Rory> ctrl-shift-c to copy from terminal
[10:06] <harry_> (Not all processes could be identified, non-owned process info  will not be shown, you would have to be root to see it all.) tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:8080            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      4195/utserver    tcp6       0      0 :::8080                 :::*                    LISTEN      4195/utserver
[10:06] <harry_> sorry that was not what you wanted
[10:06] <Rory> that's fine
[10:07] <harry_> Thanks
[10:07] <Tazmain> hi all, I have tightvncserver install but I am having trouble connecting to it, sometimes it lets me connect other times I get just a grey screen and other times its refuses the connection can someone help me set this up?
[10:08] <Rory> Did you use the chmod command to adjust the permissions of the utserver directory? It wants "sudo chmod 777 /opt/utorrent-server-v3_0/" I believe
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Tazmain: what are you using VNC to achieve when you get connected? There may be a sleeker solution
[10:08] <nowayride> Hey has anyone come across curl refusing to download .cab files? I am having issues with pipelight and even am doing echo 'test'>test.cab on an nginx server and it still gets connection reset by peer, which makes me think is the root cause here
[10:08] <harry_> I don't think so
[10:09] <harry_> Actually I used two manuals because one had problems
[10:09] <harry_> I will try to find the other
[10:09] <Rory> harry_: Make sure you follow all the steps in the guide you're following then
[10:09] <Rory> harry_: You can't skip steps
[10:09] <harry_> well actually this method did work yesterday
[10:09] <harry_> even after I switch the computer off and on
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> harry_: why not use transmission? Its in a default install.
[10:09] <nowayride> The server itself (straight 12.04) can't download from itself on it's domain for any .cab files and Google is quite barren
[10:09] <harry_> but today it seems to have issues
[10:10] <harry_> @ActionParsnip you mean the ubuntu software center?
[10:10] <agent_white>  /join #arduino
[10:10] <agent_white> OOPS
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> harry_: transmission is in a default install, why are you using utorrent?
[10:10] <Rory> harry_: Transmission is already installed in Ubuntu and has a web interface
[10:10] <Tazmain> ActionParsnip, I have a remote server, and my Boss wants a GUI interface to it, there is the intel mangement thing but it is so slow its unusable. So vnc seems better. Start it from ssh and then connect using tightvncviewer
[10:10] <harry_> aah ok
[10:11] <Rory> harry_: If you don't care what client you use, use Transmission
[10:11] <harry_> sorry I am a total noob as you might have figured out so I thought I needed to download something
[10:11] <Rory> If you do actually require utorrent specifically we can carry on troubleshooting, but I wouldn't recommend it
[10:11] <Rory> harry_: Open Transmission, go to edit -> preferences. Go to the "remote" tab, and click "Allow remote access"
[10:11] <harry_> ok then I switch to transmission
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> harry_: its in a default install, so you don't need to install anything extra, the OS can handle torents out of the box unlike windows that needs 3rd party software
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> harry_: transmission can also have a web UI just like utorrent
[10:12] <harry_> @Rory I don see the edit thing in transmission
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> Tazmain: have you tried using a non-compoziting session like LXDE etc? Using Compiz over VNC can cause issues
[10:13] <harry_> @ACtionParnsip: thx for the info
[10:14] <harry_> @Rory: I can not click on properties and I can only adjust download and upload speeds and the stop seeding ratio
[10:14] <Tazmain> ActionParsnip, I am using xfce4-session
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Tazmain: cool, you could connect to the ssh server with X forwarding an run openbox, may work ok
[10:15] <harry_> @Rory: so I can click properties if I open a torrent but I still don see where I can edit my preferences
[10:15] <strigga> Hey, I am booting from a rather small SSD and have my data on a 1TB normal (internal) harddisk. This harddisk is only mounted as a removable device as soon as I access it. I would like to have this auto mounted on boot (if possible using the same path as now /media/username/...). Is there a way to tell Ubuntu that this is not removable? I am on U14.04 LTS
[10:15] <Tazmain> How would I open the openbox session ? Forwarding over ssh seems slow as well
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> Tazmain: bah, not sure, maybe there is some extra tweaking for VNC you need, not something I use personally
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> strigga: add it in /etc/fstab
[10:17] <Tazmain> ActionParsnip, maybe, its really fast, just I have trouble connecting every now and then.
[10:17] <strigga> ActionParsnip: Thanks. It will not interfere with the automounting of the removable drive detected?
[10:17] <Rory> harry_: In the menu bar, click "edit" then "preferences"
[10:18] <Rory> harry_: At the top of the screen
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> strigga: it will mount at bootup to where you tell it to mount
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> strigga: be sure to use the UUID of the partition. You can see this with:   sudo blkid
[10:19] <harry_> @Rory thanks, just have to get used to the interface :)
[10:19] <strigga> ActionParsnip: Yeah I have done that a couple of times. I was just wondering why this hard disk was recognized as a removable disk in the first place.
[10:20] <Rory> harry_: http://i.imgur.com/FSJAVcg.png
[10:20] <Rory> harry_: Oh. Yeah it's OSX style, takes a while if you're used to Windows :)
[10:20] <stetho> Hi. I need to downgrade the kernel on a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04 for compatibility reasons. It's not something I've done before and I can't find any clear instructions. Is it as simple as apt-get install linux-headers-3.2.0-56-generic and changing grub or are there other steps involved?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> strigga: is it internal SATA based?
[10:20] <strigga> ActionParsnip: yes
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> strigga: not sure, very weird
[10:21] <inawarminister_> hi TJ you still here?
[10:21] <strigga> ActionParsnip: You dont happen to know if there is a flag one could set to switch off the automounting to /media/username...., so the behaviour is clear?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> stetho: install the kernel you want and it will upgrade grub, you could use apt-pinning to make the kernel not upgrade and then change the default in /etc/default/grub
[10:21] <harry_> @Rory: Thanks I changed it but it still does not start downloading. Should I also change: Only allow these IP adresses?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> strigga: if you define the mount in /etc/fstab, it will be obeyed
[10:21] <nowayride> stetho: you need more than headers, I believe you need linux-image
[10:22] <harry_> @Rory: Or am I just being impatient?
[10:22] <inawarminister_> hey does anyone know the alsa digital S/PDIF output index number for card 1, device 0 (usb Audio)
[10:22] <inawarminister_> thanks
[10:22] <nowayride> But for compiling you'd want linux-headers as well
[10:22] <strigga> nowayride: AND it will not additionally be mounted as a removable to disk?
[10:22] <inawarminister_> it should be hw;1,0 right??
[10:22] <inawarminister_> (this is for ALSA)
[10:22] <strigga> ActionParsnip: well - lemme try. Thanks for your help for now
[10:22] <Rory> harry_: It's a torrent client, the speed it starts downloading depends on the size of the swarm etc
[10:22] <Rory> harry_: The remote interface isn't required to actually use the client. It's just for remote access from another machine (if you need that)
[10:22] <strigga> nowayride: sorry - wrong click :D
[10:23] <Rory> harry_: An example torrent which is very well seeded: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[10:23] <nowayride> It's k :).... well apparently nginx hates hosting .cab files :( and/or Xubuntu refuses to download .cab files, sigh
[10:24] <stetho> nowayride: apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-56-generic seems to be what I was missing.
[10:24] <nowayride> stetho: Awesome!
[10:24] <harry_> @Rory: Ok thx, that one does start to download:)
[10:24] <nowayride> Downgrading from 3.5? :)
[10:25] <roracle> okay guys i can confirm: using Disks to erase NTFS, format to ext4, THEN installing will keep the installer from freezing
[10:25] <harry_> @Rory: Can I ask some more starters questions?
[10:26] <mashu> The layout of monitors is set up correctly when logged in. Does anyone know how to change the layout of monitors on the login screen?
[10:26] <Rory> harry_: Go ahead
[10:26] <harry_> @Rory: So do I need to install a anti-virus thing like AVG or F-secure?
[10:26] <harry_> @Rory: Or is that not necesary?
[10:27] <Rory> harry_: General consensus is it isn't necessary to run an antivirus
[10:27] <zetheroo> roracle: interesting - thanks!
[10:27] <Rory> harry_: This is just because nobody really writes malware for Linux, and if they do it's aimed at infecting webservers and the like
[10:28] <harry_> @Rory: Ok, and can I use microsoft office on this. And if yes is that doable for someone like me that just starts to understand the basics of linux?
[10:28] <nowayride> ^ Unless you run ancient (and horribly coded) php code you should be fine from infections :)
[10:28] <arnis> Hi! Any ideas why I cannot restart netowrking on latest ubuntu? Owning two boxes of ubuntu 14 and none of them is able to restart networking. It says stop: Job failed while stopping and nothing happens.
[10:29] <nowayride> arnis: need more error message, does /var/log/syslog or dmesg give more information? How are you restarting (webserver or with desktop's NetworkManager)?
[10:29] <sander^work> Hi. Who should I ask for an patch to chkrootkit? It's basicly two lines of code to change, and a verification of a false positive.
[10:29] <Rory> harry_: Generally I'd recommend using Libreoffice (included)
[10:29] <bekks> sander^work: you should submit a bug report and attach the patch.
[10:29] <departet> Hey, my rsyslog and minimal-ubuntu are not working correctly on my ubuntu 12 mashine. I cant uninstall nor repair them. Ideas?
[10:29] <bekks> departet: Which Ubuntu 12?
[10:30] <nikolam> askubuntu.com , sadly, depends on googleapis javascripts for basic functionality and displaying articles... how NSA of them...
[10:30] <departet> 04 lts i guess
[10:30] <departet> *12.04
[10:30] <bekks> departet: Guessing is good when gambling - check the actual version please.
[10:30] <departet> ok give me a sec
[10:30] <harry_> @Rory: And how do I send you a message to you like you send me? Because I think you don't get the nice bleep and the red highlighted name if I type something, or do you?
[10:30] <sander^work> bekks, I reported it half a year ago to chkrootkit directly.. they said thank you, but didn't fix it (they have basicly not given any updates for years)
[10:30] <Rory> I do if you say my name, harry_
[10:31] <bekks> sander^work: Then submit a launchpad bug report.
[10:31] <departet> its a 12.04.4 LTS
[10:31] <harry_> Rory awesome!
[10:31] <arnis> nowayride: ubuntu server here, 64bit. Logs are empty of errors
[10:31] <bekks> departet: And whats the actual error when you are doing what exactly?
[10:31] <Rory> Although I am at work, so if you have a question it's best to address the channel in general
[10:32] <departet> when i try to update my packages it stops working on any point when rsyslog is being used
[10:32] <departet> i have to kill the process to keep the think running
[10:32] <halppls> i have a problem with my wifi adapter after upgrading to trusty. this is where the errors begin after trying to "make"  CC [M]  /home/anon/Downloads/rt3573sta-master-2/os/linux/../../os/linux/rt_linux.o
[10:32] <halppls> /home/anon/Downloads/rt3573sta-master-2/os/linux/../../os/linux/rt_linux.c: In function ‘__RtmpOSFSInfoChange’:
[10:32] <halppls> /home/anon/Downloads/rt3573sta-master-2/os/linux/../../os/linux/rt_linux.c:1138:20: error: incompatible types when assigning to type ‘int’ from type ‘kuid_t’
[10:32] <halppls>    pOSFSInfo->fsuid = current_fsuid();
[10:32] <halppls>                     ^
[10:32] <halppls> /home/anon/Downloads/rt3573sta-master-2/os/linux/../../os/linux/rt_linux.c:1139:20: error: incompatible types when assigning to type ‘int’ from type ‘kgid_t’
[10:32] <unopaste> halppls you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[10:32] <bekks> halppls: Which wifi chipset do you have exactly?
[10:33] <nowayride> arnis: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/1301015
[10:33] <llutz> arnis: use "sudo ifdown <iface> && sudo ifup <iface>"
[10:33] <halppls> i am using a netgear wnda4100 and it uses the rt3573sta driver
[10:33] <nowayride> BTW really good to know since we (hosting company) don't have 14.04 implemented yet and I know this is going to cause an uproar :\
[10:33] <arnis> nowayride: thanks, got it!
[10:33] <llutz> arnis: or on systems using network-manager, "sudo restart network-manager"
[10:34] <nowayride> So... how does this ifdown ifup work with ifenslave on 14.04? ifenslave is already super finicky when it comes to using the init script, let alone ifdown&&ifup
[10:35] <harry_> Rory: I have this old hp laptop (6 years old) on which I installed linux. But the fan has always had it's problems so my laptop heats up a lot. That's why I decided to use tlp but it does not seem to do anything.
[10:35] <fubard> I'm getting this error whenver I need to run ANYTHING, apt, updates, whatever http://pastebin.com/0E2jg7rM
[10:36] <harry_> Rory: I used this website http://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04/ and then under the heading improve battery life ....
[10:36] <bekks> halppls: Then pastebin your error. Into a pastebin, not into this channel.
[10:36] <bekks> !pastebin | halppls
[10:37] <arnis> llutz: thanks :-) simply, networking restart is not allowed anymore starting from 14
[10:37] <harry_> Rory: is there any configuration that can help me? Can I just reduce the RAM so my laptop does not have to work so hard :)?
[10:37] <halppls> bekks, okay this is where the error begins http://pastebin.com/By0097Sr
[10:37] <llutz> arnis: it was deprecated since ages
[10:37] <bekks> halppls: Pastebin the entire output please.
[10:37] <harry_> Rory: And btw thanks a lot for all the answers an effort so far!
[10:38] <salsero|2> can you still stop and start?
[10:38] <arnis> llutz: good to know. I guess I havent tried it for a while.
[10:38] <halppls> http://pastebin.com/GPZ3a9nu
[10:38] <halppls> thank you for looking into this bekks
[10:38] <Rory> harry_: I don't really know because I don't use laptops much. At least not away from a power source
[10:38] <jasabella> how do i remove bluetooth entirely?
[10:39] <jasabella> im on kde, bluetooth, bluedevil?
[10:39] <jasabella> what other packages?
[10:39] <junka> why so much hate
[10:39] <nowayride>  jasabella: dpkg --get-selections | grep luetooth
[10:39] <nowayride> Should show you packages with bluetooth in the name
[10:40] <jasabella> but whta if they dont have bluetooth intheir name?
[10:40] <harry_> Rory: Well the power is not the problem, it is the fact that my laptop heats up too much and then my fan starts blowing like crazy and it makes a sound like it is starting it's engines to take of
[10:40] <salsero|2> jasabella: echo "blacklist bluetooth" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[10:41] <jasabella> hmmm
[10:41] <nowayride> So is there going to be a new way to restart networking? ifdown/ifup seems pretty, primitive and I see problems with that
[10:41] <nowayride> ^ For server
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> salsero|2: that wont work, the blacklist file is root owned, the file is also blacklist.conf, not blacklist
[10:41] <jasabella> sudo service networking restart
[10:42] <nowayride> Works fine on 14.04?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> salsero|2: jasabella: the command is:   echo "blacklist bluetooth" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[10:42] <jechadwell99> is it all right to ask here for ubuntu sdk problems?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> nowayride: yes, should do
[10:43] <llutz> nowayride: it won't do anything
[10:44] <nowayride> I mean ifdown && ifup seems about as effective as shutdown -h now && init 3, down > up isn't the same as restart
[10:45] <llutz> nowayride: for single ifaces, it is
[10:45] <nowayride> At work we have 4+ int per server :(
[10:45] <nowayride> In LACP pairs, ifdown is going to be tedious heh
[10:46] <llutz> nowayride: iirc the problem with "restart networking" was, that it also stops dbus which breaks things. afaik there is no realclean way to restart entire network now, when not using network-manager
[10:47] <jasabella> i learnt the hardway not to call ifdown on the ethernet interface you are ssh'ed into :D
[10:47] <nowayride> Just wondering, what actually stops dbus, looking at the init script it seems to basically does ifdown ifup
[10:48] <eduardo_> where can i adress to possibly bug in upgrading kernels ???
[10:48] <clue_h> i used nat
[10:49] <upsla> how to fix ugly display during ubuntu boot up?
[10:51] <upsla> how to fix ugly display during ubuntu boot up?
[10:51] <nowayride> What ugly display?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> upsla: is it ok once it boots?
[10:52] <kingplusplus> anyone using kupfer? How do u launch terminal with it?
[10:52] <upsla> +ActionParsnip:yes, but it sets 800x600 resolution.
[10:52] <SirDidi> Hej :) I installed gnome-shell via "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell" but now I don't have the option in lightDM or gdm to login to gnome... Someone knows what the problem could be?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> upsla: so when you log in the res is 800x600 and you have to change it each time?
[10:53] <upsla> +ActionParsnip:yes.
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> SirDidi: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[10:53] <SirDidi> ActionParsnip, buntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> upsla: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[10:53] <Sanju> hellooo
[10:53] <SirDidi> ActionParsnip, oh :D
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> SirDidi: are there any bugs reported?
[10:53] <SirDidi> ActionParsnip, nope :/
[10:53] <upsla> +ActionParsnip:I am using a different sys now.
[10:53] <Sanju> hi gyes i need help..!!
[10:53] <cfhowlett> !details|Sanju
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> SirDidi: did you add the gnome staging ppa, or did you use the default ubuntu repos?
[10:54] <SirDidi> ActionParsnip, or I dont now here to look :D
[10:54] <SirDidi> ActionParsnip, I use the default repos
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> upsla: can you get it on the system you are having issues on please
[10:54] <Sanju> i want a software for .hex file to .c fole converter
[10:54] <SirDidi> ActionParsnip, should I tries the ppa?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> SirDidi: I suggest you report a bug, if you can find the .desktop file it adds to the login session, you can manually add it and select it at login
[10:54] <upsla> +ActionParsnip:ok logging off. I  will ping from my sys.
[10:55] <Slart> Sanju: what kind of file is the .hex file?
[10:55] <Sanju> plz help for softawre,,
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> SirDidi: i dont suggest you add the ppa, no
[10:55] <Sanju> ok
[10:55] <junka> how can i grub rescue?
[10:55] <SirDidi> ActionParsnip, ok thx :)
[10:55] <Sanju> have any software expert name plzz??
[10:56] <junka> i get error: unknown filesystem grub rescue
[10:56] <cfhowlett> Sanju dude. ASK YOUR QUESTION and give details.
[10:56] <Sanju> how can i convert .hex file to .c file???
[10:56] <Sanju> how can i convert .hex file to .c file???
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> SirDidi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/452385/lightdm-is-missing-gnome-shell-icon
[10:57] <iceroot> Sanju: your question is how to convert a file contains HEX code to normal text mode which seems to be c-source-code?
[10:57] <SirDidi> ActionParsnip, thank u so much!
[10:57] <Sanju> yes right..
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> SirDidi: all I did was search the web....
[10:57] <oldwzd> Sanju: ever used google?
[10:57] <iceroot> Sanju: the first question is why should someone provide c-source-code in HEX format. but the answer is, every hex converter can do that. c-code is just normal text
[10:57] <SirDidi> ActionParsnip, me2 but apparently not really good :/
[10:57] <cfhowlett> !google|oldwzd
[10:58] <Sanju> i used but did't  find.
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> SirDidi: https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gnome-shell%20missing%20from%20lightdm
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> SirDidi: thats it, top link
[10:59] <oldwzd> my take on ppl who dont have google-fu is the yshould not be running a system that req more then that.. (as in dont use a computer at all then..)
[10:59] <Sanju> ok thanks i trieing..
[10:59] <bigred15> oldwzd: That logic is crazy.
[10:59] <cfhowlett> oldwzd you're entitled to your opinion - but that's not how we do things there.  Thank you for understanding.
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> oldwzd: then nobody would start using computers
[11:01] <junka> i get error: unknown filesystem grub rescue i cant boot what should i do
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> junka: boot to liveCD and run an fsck on the unmounted partitions, make sure things are healthy
[11:08] <junka> ActionParsnip, how can i check for partitions?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> junka: sudo fdisk -l     will list the partitions
[11:11] <junka> so 'sudo fsck /dev/sdX' is good? no paraments?
[11:11] <Tug> where should I go to report a missing package ?
[11:12] <Tug> gnome-control-center-unity was missing after upgrading from 13.10 to 14.04
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> junka: sudo fsck /dev/sdXY
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> junka: you test the partitions, not the drive
[11:13] <junka> ActionParsnip, right! Also sudo umount /dev/sdXY right?
[11:13] <jpentland> Hi. Since updating to the latest ubuntu it seems that my system is running VERY slow. It is acting as if I have very low RAM availability, however checking the system monitor shows 0% swap usage and 30% memory usage. I see 2 of 4 cores are always running 100% but there are no processes actually using this amount. All I can see are a few kworker thread processes doing a lot of disk sleep,.
[11:16] <jpentland> top shows me around 5 wa
[11:16] <jpentland> *top shows around 50 wa
[11:16] <jpentland> Anyone have an idea about this?
[11:17] <bekks> jpentland: Then pastebin a snapshot of top please.
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> bekks: top -n 1 | pastebinit
[11:20] <jpentland> bekks, http://pastebin.com/yey6aVky
[11:20] <jpentland> and yeah i have apt-get removing some stuff right now very slowly
[11:22] <bekks> jpentland: you might just stop baloo.
[11:23] <jpentland> bekks, how to stop it? I tried killing it but it just restarted
[11:23] <halppls> i am using a netgear wnda4100 wireless adapter and it uses the rt3573sta driver. this is the output when trying to "make" http://pastebin.com/i6hqh9nU
[11:23] <bekks> jpentland: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2217434
[11:26] <jpentland> bekks, wow that is a major hack - luckily the suspend command that was mentioned worked without having to make the directory inaccessible
[11:27] <bekks> jpentland: Its no hack at all. It stops baloo and prevents it from creating new data.
[11:28] <jpentland> bekks, hmm I would say "chmod ugo-w ~/.local/share/baloo" is a hack
[11:28] <bekks> jpentland: I would say it is a normal command to be issued by a normal user.
[11:28] <jpentland> either way suspending it seemed to work
[11:29] <bekks> jpentland: you will have to suspend it again upon next reboot.
[11:30] <jpentland> bekks, ok thanks for the help
[11:33] <avis> are there gtk2 themes for ubuntu 14.04 ?
[11:33] <gener1c> hey , i have a kernel panic (vfs cant mount root file system)
[11:34] <gener1c> is there a way to fix it?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: is the system responsive?
[11:35] <gener1c> ActionParsnip: what does that mean?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: can you type commands?
[11:36] <gener1c> ni
[11:36] <gener1c> just a stacktrace and nada
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: reboot then
[11:36] <gener1c> ok
[11:37] <gener1c> im backing up just in case so ill reboot in 10 minuts ActionParsnip ...
[11:38] <gry> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4931395 which lines should i comment in sources.list ?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> gry: what is the output of:   grep -R octave /etc/apt/*
[11:40] <gry> ActionParsnip, https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4931400
[11:43] <dsfadfsadfsadfsd> :-!
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> gry: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/octave-unstable*
[11:46] <andai> Hello. I'm trying to install grub2 from live cd (already have OSes, just can't boot em)
[11:48] <andai> grub2 complains about /cow, which seems to have something to do with the live CD
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> andai: what live CD are you using
[11:48] <andai> xubuntu newest 64bit
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> andai: is the installed OS 64bit too?
[11:49] <andai> ActionParsnip: I currently have windows 8, 64 bit, and windows XP, 32 bit
[11:49] <andai> XP destroyed the bootloader, so i'm trying to bring it back
[11:49] <andai> i tried with windows rescue already, but the manual assumed i still HAD a boot partition
[11:49] <cfhowlett> andai XP?  even MSoft no longer supports that!
[11:49] <andai> cfhowlett: Yes, but my university enforces it
[11:50] <andai> cfhowlett: trying to run UT3, which refused for unspecified reasons
[11:50] <cfhowlett> andai !!! change schools!
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> andai: there is a guide on OMGUbuntu called 'sticking it to Grub', it's a great guide
[11:50] <andai> cfhowlett: Yes, seriously considering it
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> andai: whta is UT3?
[11:50] <zamba> i have created a 60 GB dummy file by using dd and /dev/urandom.. now i need to create a new file at 40 GB.. how can i just grab 40 GB off the first file instead of having to create new random data from /dev/urandom?
[11:50] <gener1c> ActionParsnip: rebooted still the same , cant input anything
[11:51] <clue_h> createe 40 gb dummy file instead
[11:51] <andai> ActionParsnip: Unreal Tournament
[11:51] <zamba> clue_h: hm?
[11:52] <andai> ActionParsnip: It wants me to chroot to boot drive, but that's XP, so it doesn't find /bin/bash
[11:52] <andai> ActionParsnip: my apologies in advance, i have mild brain damage from chronic stress and sleep dep this week
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> zamba: dd if=/filename bs=1024 count=40000000 of=outputfilename
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> zamba: something like that
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> andai: then you will need an XP CD
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> andai: the guys in ##windows can help there
[11:53] <zamba> ActionParsnip: ah, perfect
[11:53] <toafan> What's the best way to go from 13.04 to 14.04?  Run "do-release-upgrade; do-release-upgrade"?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> toafan: you will need to upgrade to 13.10 then to 14.04
[11:54] <andai> how come it's harder to install grub now than it was 5 years ago
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> toafan: or a clean install of 14.04 wiping 13.04 off first
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> toafan: neither is best
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> andai: you need a linx filesystem on the drive to putthe grub config files, its very simple
[11:55] <andai> ActionParsnip: Ohhhh
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> andai: if you dont have an installed Linux OS, you will need the Windows CD to reinstate the bootloader of Windows.
[11:55] <andai> ActionParsnip: Windows bootloader is fine, it's what I want to get rid of
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> andai: if you dual boot, chroot to the Linux partition and you can reinstate Grub from there
[11:56] <toafan> ActionParsnip: "neither is best" as in "there is no best way", or "neither is best" as in "better not to"?
[11:56] <andai> ActionParsnip: I figure i need to repartition?
[11:56] <gener1c> i have a repeating kernel panic (cant mnount rootfs) ..... reoobt didnt help and its not responsive
[11:57] <cstln21> Could anyone help finding the Icons on my Desktop in Ubuntu.
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> toafan: both have advantages and disadvantgaes
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> toafan: neither is better than the other
[11:57] <andai> ActionParsnip: K, deleted windows boot partition, now i have a nice big chunk of free space
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> andai: you can resize Ext4 to the new freed space if you desire
[11:58] <andai> ActionParsnip: That's the word I was waiting for
[11:58] <andai> This is fertile ground for grub, yes?
[11:58] <eduardo_> where can i adress to possibly bug in upgrading kernels ???
[11:59] <ART007> Is there an easy way to unencrypt a chroot?
[11:59] <isojussi> any suggestions to this problem? we would need a system for simple "work order" display, it shows a list of orders for assembly team. There are at leas two-three separate users that update the list.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> andai: if you have an installed  Ubuntu OS then you can chroot to it and reinstate Grub to the MBR
[12:00] <andai> ActionParsnip: and if not? :)
[12:00] <isojussi> simple excel type file would be enough
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> andai: then make a 200Mb Ext4 partition and you can put Grub on that
[12:01] <andai> ActionParsnip: I'm still getting the "failed to get canonical path of /cow"
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> andai: have you looked online to see what that means?
[12:01] <andai> Yeah, then I got confused and came here
[12:02] <andai> ActionParsnip: I'm gonna see if Boot-Repair knows what to do now that I actually have a partition to install the bootloader on!
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> andai: http://askubuntu.com/questions/254491/failed-to-get-canonical-path-of-cow
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> andai: personally I would reinstall and restore user data from backup
[12:03] <Hanumaan> I was trying to update to 14.04 and first upgraded to 13.10 yesterday night kept for update but now it is not loging into any of the screen(GUI/commandline) and just beeping sound using gnome desktop had nvida drivers also how to go further ?
[12:03] <andai> ActionParsnip: I'm considering getting a mac
[12:04] <ART007> Hanumaan: dark purple or black screen after gdm?
[12:04] <Hanumaan> ART007, yes
[12:04] <ART007> Hanumaan: have you checked nomodeset?
[12:04] <Hanumaan> ART007, sorry not purple blue screen ..
[12:05] <ART007> oh bright blue? as in "not so dark it might be off".. that's not nomodeset then
[12:05] <ramsub07> HI guys I am using ubuntu 13.04 I want to change to 14.04 without loss of data is that possible ?
[12:06] <Hanumaan> ART007, as of I do not know if it got upgraded to 13.10 or not .. in grub it says 2 different options one Ubuntu and other for 13.04 ubuntu so assuming upgraded to 13.10
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> andai: bit overpriced imho, totally not worth it
[12:06] <bekks> ramsub07: Backup everything, and upgrade/reinstall.
[12:06] <andai> ActionParsnip: I said get, right? :)
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> ramsub07: you will have a backup if data los sconcerns you, right....
[12:06] <Hanumaan> Yes bright blue
[12:06] <andai> ActionParsnip: All right, Boot-Repair switched Win8 partition to "boot".. which... makes way more sense than what I was trying to do
[12:07] <chi_> aiii
[12:07] <ramsub07> but if i upgrade to 13.10 then also do I need to get a backup ?
[12:07] <andai> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot :) hopefully it's fixed
[12:07] <bekks> ramsub07: Of course. Having no backup just means you have no data worth to be kept.
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> ramsub07: you need a backup anyway, as part of your weekly / daily backup regime
[12:08] <ramsub07> Oh, so after upgrading the datas will be erased ?
[12:08] <ramsub07> *data
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> ramsub07: not with the online upgrade no, but you will need to upgrade twice online and ytou will have loads of fluff left from the old versions
[12:08] <bekks> ramsub07: No. Having no backup mean you dont care wether you data is lost or not.
[12:08] <bekks> *means
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> ramsub07: or a clean install with te OS as it is intended then restore data from backup will get you to the latest LTS much faster and with fewer issues
[12:10] <Hanumaan> unable to go into any input mode how do I repair further ?
[12:10] <_alpha_> does anyone know what features the evolution integration in 'online accounts' enables? I don't use Evolution itself as a mail client
[12:13] <memowmo> Hello world
[12:13] <Hanumaan> I was trying to update to 14.04 and first upgraded to 13.10 yesterday night kept for update but now it is not loging into any of the screen(GUI/commandline) and just beeping sound using gnome desktop had nvida drivers also how to go further ? Comes a bright blue screen.
[12:15] <Transformers> Hey, i have a question. With the release of 14.04 LTS. How does one go about joining Ubuntu to an active directory domain? Considering the likewise-open repo doesn't seem to be available anymore.
[12:15] <orochi> witch what can i download video on firefox in ubuntu
[12:16] <Rory> orochi: Do you mean from embedded flash video players like Youtube etc?
[12:16] <Rory> orochi: Well not Youtube but for others, search in firefox addons for "video download"
[12:18] <taltk9> Anyone know how to downgrade php 5.5 to 5.4 in ubuntu 10.13?
[12:19] <Hanumaan> how to get terminal in Ubuntu ? it is not coming up after upgrading to 13.10
[12:22] <taltk9> Anyone know how to downgrade php 5.5 to 5.4 in ubuntu 10.13?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> taltk9: there is no ubuntu 10.13
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> taltk9: there is ubuntu 10.04 and 10.10
[12:25] <Rory> taltk9: There is also 13.10
[12:25] <Transformers> Hey, i have a question. With the release of 14.04 LTS. How does one go about joining Ubuntu to an active directory domain? Considering the likewise-open repo doesn't seem to be available anymore.
[12:25] <Rory> taltk9: What is the output of the command: cat /etc/issue
[12:26] <Rory> Hanumaan: click the menu button in the top-left, type "Terminal" and click it, or use the shortcut ctrl-alt-t
[12:26] <taltk9>  Sorry! Anyone know how to downgrade php 5.5 to 5.4 in ubuntu 13.10?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> taltk9: if you can find a deb of the previous version, you can install it. Im not sure if you can have multiple versions of the package, you may need to investigate
[12:28] <Rory> taltk9: I searched online for "ubuntu 13.10 downgrade php 5.4" and found this solution, which someone said worked for them. I can't persnally vouch for it though: http://stackoverflow.com/a/19819721/736253
[12:30] <Transformers> So, does anyone know anything about Active Directory connections with Ubuntu or am I in the wrong place?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Transformers: in what sense connections?
[12:31] <Transformers> ACtionParsnip: With the release of 14.04 LTS. How does one go about joining Ubuntu to an active directory domain? Considering the likewise-open repo doesn't seem to be available anymore.
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Transformers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto
[12:32] <Hanumaan> Rory, actually after upgrading to 13.10 I am unable to login or even not getting terminal (ctrl+alt+F2....F7)
[12:34] <allstarsnorks2> guys, I have a problem with Remastersys. I get an error "Lightdm not setup properly. You must set your default desktop with lightdm prior to remastering"
[12:34] <Rory> Hanumaan: OK, can you select an older kernel version from the boot menu?
[12:34] <Rory> allstarsnorks2: What Ubuntu version?
[12:35] <Rory> allstarsnorks2: Did you try setting your default desktop with lightdm prior to remastering?
[12:35] <lucasredsn0w> hello everyone. Just updated to 14.04. Wonderful!
[12:36] <Nothing_Much> Hi lucasredsn0w, how is it?
[12:36] <lucasredsn0w> It's much faster
[12:36] <lucasredsn0w> And I think those fonts are better too.
[12:36] <remastersys> sorry, got disconnected. I use Xubuntu 14.04 LTS.
[12:37] <lucasredsn0w> remastersys, Why choose Xfce instead of Unity?
[12:37] <Nothing_Much> lucasredsn0w: Yeah, been using 14.04 for months now, it's a very smooth upgrade
[12:37] <Rory> !ot | lucasredsn0w Nothing_Much
[12:37] <Nothing_Much> Unity imo is much better than any other desktop I can think of, except maybe Gnome 3, but I don't think we're allowed to talk about ubuntu like this- yeah that
[12:38] <Nothing_Much> Join in the fun lucasredsn0w in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:38] <lucasredsn0w> All right. Go to off-topic cannel
[12:38] <lucasredsn0w> channel
[12:38] <remastersys> any ideas to fix the problem?
[12:38] <taltk9> Rory: I'm searching about downgrade in ubuntu 13.10, but it's hard
[12:38] <Rory> remastersys: remastersys doesn't work with 14.04, but there are other similar tools around
[12:39] <remastersys> like what?
[12:40] <mktWzrd> any alternative to remastersys ?
[12:41] <Hanumaan> Rory, when I select old kernel just a black screen comes up nothing is showing up ..
[12:42] <Rory> remastersys: This one says it's "partially tested" with 14.x, but interestingly by "partially" they mean they tested it on Xubuntu http://system-imaging.blogspot.co.uk/
[12:43] <Rory> The community documentation on customising a LiveCD is here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[12:43] <Rory> I don't know how up-to-date it is though, it makes a reference to 9.04...
[12:44] <zamba> i'm trying to create a file that's exactly 40 GB, but i'm not really very successful: http://pastie.org/9108038
[12:45] <zamba> 40 GB is 42949672960 bytes, right? which is 1024*41943040? so what am i doing wrong here?
[12:45] <Rory> zamba: fallocate -l 40G 40g.img
[12:45] <Rory> Nobody knows about fallocate. It's awesome
[12:47] <pokkos> i need a calculator which shows the history of what i have calculed, galculator sucks
[12:47] <stxaBe> I don't know how to ask google 'postinst command to update mime database'... can I ask someone here?
[12:48] <MannerMan> launchpad.net down?
[12:48] <marden> MannerMan: seems that way
[12:48] <zamba> Rory: oh.. cool
[12:48] <ztane> wonder why postgresql-9.3-postgis-2.1 has to depend on mysql-common ....
[12:49] <Rory> ztane: It's just a name, contains files like my.cnf
[12:49] <Rory> ztane: It doesn't actually pull in any mysql server dependencies
[12:50] <ztane> yeah, found that out too
[12:50] <Rory> ztane: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/mysql-common/filelist
[12:50] <marden> MannerMan: seems lauchpad is coming back
[12:51] <MannerMan> marden: Indeed
[12:52] <zamba> Rory: can't do that over nfs storage, though :)
[12:53] <Rory> zamba: By 40GB do you mean (40 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024) bytes?
[12:54] <zamba> Rory: yes
[12:54] <exalt> hello i use convert to parse a collection of PNG images to a pdf, but some PNG images have the size of like 7 A4's how can i make covert chunk it's content in parts of a4 size ?
[12:54] <remastersys> how do i run the dependencies script?
[12:55] <boingboing> I see in fdisk that the end of sda1 is not aligned with sda2: sda1 ends at sector 499711, sda2 starts at 501758, also, the logical partition sda5 starts at 501760
[12:56] <boingboing> is this a problem?
[12:56] <Rory> boingboing: no
[12:57] <netyire> boingboing: I just got here, there is no problem
[12:57] <netyire> I cannot solve
[12:57] <boingboing> thanks, if I want to create a new partition however (sda3) I would have to start at the end of sda2, right?
[12:57] <bekks> boingboing: No. After sda2.
[12:57] <taltk9> Rory I think that I will install the ubuntu 13.04 to solve my problem
[12:57] <boingboing> hmmm
[12:58] <Rory> taltk9: I would recommend 14.04
[12:58] <boingboing> bekks: I said so, or do you mean something different?
[12:58] <taltk9> Rory but my problem isn't ubuntu
[12:59] <taltk9> Rory my problem is the php version
[12:59] <netyire> boingboing: do you mean in terms of the disk's cylinders? in general, you can declare partition start/endpoints wherever in heck (heck obligingly present somewhere on disk) you so wish
[12:59] <Rory> taltk9: Oh sorry
[12:59] <boingboing> if sda2 ends at XXXXXX0 I should start at XXXXXX1 for sda3 or not?
[12:59] <boingboing> fdisk is asking for the first sector
[12:59] <Rory> taltk9: If you absolutely need an old PHP version, there's little else you can do than (a) install a deb from an older version of Ubuntu, or (b) compile it yourself from upstream
[12:59] <netyire> boingboing: by should, do you mean you must or do you mean general practice ?
[12:59] <boingboing> because sda2 doesn't neatly follow sda1 it recommends the first sector after the end of sda1
[12:59] <zamba> Rory: so? any idea?
[13:00] <boingboing> netyre: my problem is that I'm trying to resize my lvm
[13:00] <Rory> zamba: I'm sure it's something to do with just the way du and ls and things report sizes... dd says it copied x number of bytes
[13:00] <boingboing> netrye: I first had 40GB and now 60GB, so I want to create sda3 with the 20GB and add it to the lvm
[13:00] <zamba> Rory: ok
[13:00] <taltk9> Rory I will study this possibility
[13:01] <Rory> zamba: Also, I think reading from /dev/zero is faster than /dev/urandom - although if you need random data disregard
[13:01] <boingboing> because sda1 and sda2 do not end / start at the same sector, fdisk recommends the first sector after sda1 ends for this new partition
[13:02] <boingboing> there is a 2000 sector hop between sda1 and sda2
[13:02] <boingboing> so basically, I think fdisk recommends creating a partition within those 2000 sectors
[13:02] <ART007> taltk9: Look at php-perl. It allows you to run multiple php versions on the same machine.
[13:02] <boingboing> which would be retarded, or not?
[13:03] <boingboing> this would give me like a 1mb partition
[13:03] <boingboing> or am I misunderstanding something here?
[13:03] <ART007> taltk9: My mistake, it's named "PEAR"
[13:05] <Rory> boingboing: It would be "retarded" if fdisk didn't let you create a partition as large or small as you like
[13:05] <ART007> taltk9: perl,pear, all sound the same! You want php-pear :)
[13:05] <f3lix> Does anyone know which settings in an AMI are reset when you launch an Amazon EC2 instance? And how?
[13:05] <Rory> boingboing: It really is no issue to have small gaps between partitions, and its to do with cylindar boundaries and the like
[13:05] <boingboing> rory: I didn't mean it in a snarking way, I'm not sure how to set up sd3
[13:06] <ART007> Viruses could hide in the small gaps between partitions. Sounds risky. :-)
[13:06] <Rory> boingboing: Create it starting from some sector number larger than the ending sector of sda2
[13:06] <Rory> ART007 │ Viruses could hide in the small gaps between partitions
[13:06] <boingboing> Rory: Thanks! :)
[13:06] <Rory> ART007: I laughed, thanks :)
[13:08] <netyire> boingboing: you may prefer running lvextend -L+20G /dev/stairwaytoheavenor/sda2
[13:16] <netyire> boingboing: http://sujithemmanuel.blogspot.com/2007/04/how-to-add-disk-to-lvm.html
[13:21] <Guest0r> why is ZNC not packaged for ubuntu?
[13:21] <Guest0r> as it is for Debian?
[13:21] <fulld> Hello room. I am in the middle of a dist upgrade using the Gnome GUI tool. Server is in mom's basement and I am far away. Is there a way to connect to this X11 session to click the OK button that is on the screen?
[13:22] <junka> must be creepy..in ur mom's basement..
[13:23] <Guest0r> junka: lol
[13:23] <Hanumaan> loginscreen and terminal are not coming in ubuntu only a beep sound and a blue screen comes up .. help would be greatly appreciated ..
[13:23] <fulld> junka: I know, it's like beep beep "are you sure you want to upgrade"
[13:24] <dw1> gui upgrade has a few prompts.......
[13:24] <junka> Guest0r, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=znc
[13:25] <junka> Hanumaan, we are not windows to have blue screens of death
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> !find znc
[13:26] <netyire> !info znc
[13:26] <Guest0r> junka: ty
[13:26] <netyire> Guest0r: you lied
[13:26] <netyire> Guest0r: you will be shipped a complimentary version of Windows 8.1
[13:26] <Guest0r> netyire: yeah it's in universe
[13:26] <fulld> Or better question. Can I start a command line dist-upgrade while the GUI one is running (and stuck) whichout bricking my server?
[13:27] <Guest0r> netyire: lol
[13:27] <tenfe> Hi folks... I have a problem with my zoom settings on ubuntu 14.04... I turned on the "zoom" under "preferences->accessibility" and now the graphics are all messed up and my ubuntu freezes after moving the mouse for 5 seconds
[13:27] <tenfe> how can I turn it off via terminal?
[13:27] <module000> fulld: your question does not computer... "GUI is runing" and "my server". Why does your server have a GUI?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> fulld: yes it should be ok
[13:27] <Guest0r> tenfe: have you installed a graphics driver?
[13:27] <module000> fulld: s/computer/compute
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> tenfe: sudo shudown -h now     will power off the entire system
[13:28] <tenfe> Guest0r, just the standard one I think
[13:29] <frankg> How to list the contents of a package?
[13:29] <Guest0r> tenfe: try the propitiatory one maybe (i have not had this issue though)
[13:29] <llutz> frankg: dpkg -L package
[13:29] <frankg> thanks
[13:29] <tenfe> Guest0r, do you know of a way to disable it via terminal?
[13:29] <module000> frankg: dpkg-query -L <package>      protip: man dpkg-query
[13:31] <Guest0r> tenfe: i believe there is a gconftool tool for that
[13:31] <Guest0r> tenfe: im not familiar with it though
[13:32] <fulld> module000: I know I know, sorry I've been lazy and reused the GUI cd to install this one. I am braving along with `rm /var/lock/dpkg; dpkg --configure -a` and will hope for the best
[13:32] <fulld> Thanks
[13:33] <netyire> delinquentme: you're delinquent, delinquentme
[13:35] <inawarminister> hi people~
[13:35] <TenLeftFingers> I've been using Trusty since it went beta and I've heard that Ubuntu One was removed by an update since then. Mine is still in tact though. Any ideas why that is? How can I best remove it?
[13:35] <tenfe> Guest0r, thanks for the tip. I fixed it by just pressing "Alt + Super + 8" as hotkey for turning it off
[13:35] <Guest0r> tenfe: nice :-)
[13:36] <cfhowlett> TenLeftFingers store your ubuntu one files to an alternate cloud and don't use it.  it'll be removed at the next point release I think.
[13:36] <TenLeftFingers> cfhowlett: thank you, I'll do that.
[13:39] <taltk9> Rory I will use phpbrew to solve my problem
[13:40] <mzaza> I get an error while opening nvidia x server settings and choose nvidia from the menu (i'm on dual gpu laptop) i get an error box which is empty!
[13:42] <Hanumaan> junka, :) true it is not in windows when I am trying to upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 the blue screen comes up but surely it is not that blue screen of death
[13:52] <gumble> hey on startup my console tells me that: bash: alias: /opt/lampp/htdocs: Not found. I think that is an alias I defined somewhen. But where could I have done that? the files ~/.bashsrc and ~/.bash_aliases are empty
[13:52] <junka> please i beg you. account-plugin-irc is broken since 12.04 :(
[13:53] <Pricey> gumble: I'd imagine it'd be something you set up for another user, not your own.
[13:54] <gumble> Pricey, just saw I missspelled bashrc :)
[13:54] <gumble> the definitions are there
[13:55] <ryeguy28> hello
[13:56] <mzaza> How can I know which graphics card is currently in use from my two gpus?
[13:56] <Pricey> gumble: good stuff
[13:57] <gumble> hmm?
[14:00] <taltk9> Rory, So I will need to downgrade my Ubuntu =( It's my last option
[14:01] <[Ex0r]> hello, is it possible within the distro for 10.03 to install to 12.04 ?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade|[Ex0r]
[14:02] <[Ex0r]> hmm it looks like im already running 12.04 :\
[14:02] <mzaza> Anyone hwere knows how to figure out which GPU is currently in use?
[14:02] <[Ex0r]> so than why is my cmake 10.04's version
[14:03] <cfhowlett> [Ex0r] what is output of cat /etc/issue/
[14:03] <fulld> Report: it worked! I'm now on 14.04
[14:04] <kostkon> !info cmake precise
[14:04] <[Ex0r]> cfhowlett- Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[14:04] <kostkon> !info cmake lucid
[14:06] <cfhowlett> [Ex0r] so you already on 12.04 then
[14:06] <hehe_ok> guys
[14:06] <kroonrs> Hi.  My wireless USB mouse is not working - any suggestions how to debug?
[14:06] <[Ex0r]> cfhowlett- I know, and I have 2.8.7 cmake version somehow
[14:06] <hehe_ok> in 14.04 when i install vidalia .. it says tor's location is not correct
[14:06] <goneeuro> Hey guys. any body know how I can make my xubuntu 14.04 auto mount sd cards in the built in sd card slot?
[14:06] <cfhowlett> [Ex0r] virtualbox and a 32 bit distro of whatever you need
[14:06] <hehe_ok> Also What is the alt to insserv in ubuntu ?
[14:07] <[Ex0r]> ?
[14:07] <cfhowlett> [Ex0r] install virtualbox in 12.04.  install 10.04 in virtualbox
[14:07] <[Ex0r]> i dont need 10.04
[14:08] <cfhowlett> [Ex0r] so when you said you need to downgrade to 10.04 ???
[14:08] <[Ex0r]> but i want to know why when i did sudo apt-get install build-essential it gave me 2.8.7 version of cmake instead of the version that comes with 12.04
[14:08] <Noiro> is there a bug where 14.04 refuses to boot from a USB? I have to install 13.04 first, then upgrade to 14.04 to get it on a system
[14:08] <[Ex0r]> cfhowlett- I thought I had installed 10.04 on the server, but I must have installed 12
[14:09] <llutz> !info cmake precise  | [Ex0r]
[14:09] <e01> anyone do update from 13.10 to 14.04 ?
[14:09] <Noiro> whenever I try to boot from 14.04, 3 diffferent computers so far just hang with a black scren
[14:10] <Noiro> e01, just updated yesterday
[14:10] <llutz> [Ex0r]: 2.8.7 is the version coming with 12.04
[14:10] <[Ex0r]> llutz- so than how do I upgrade it to a newer version ?
[14:10] <e01> Noiro: any problems?
[14:10] <llutz> [Ex0r]: update to 14.04 or find a ppa providing newer versiones
[14:10] <llutz> versions*
[14:10] <trijntje> Noiro: sounds like a problem with the live usb/cd, try making it again and checking the disk for defects
[14:10] <goneeuro> Hey guys. any body know how I can make my xubuntu 14.04 auto mount sd cards in the built in sd card slot?
[14:11] <Noiro> e01, my nvidia display required me to alter things again, twinview was borked afterwards, bu tafter I got that done, she plays like a charm
[14:11] <[Ex0r]> llutz- so I have to reinstall the system than?
[14:11] <llutz> [Ex0r]: no, why?
[14:11] <[Ex0r]> llutz- to upgrade to 14.04 from 12.04
[14:12] <e01> Noiro: i am with integrated intel and not use twinview, i am most curious about java and skype, are they fine
[14:13] <Noiro> Oh, I know skype is fine. Haven't played with Java again yet. But they should be stable
[14:13] <llutz> [Ex0r]: its LTS to LTS, should be working after 14.04.1 is out or using do-release-upgrade -d
[14:13] <e01> Noiro: thanks
[14:13] <[Ex0r]> oh, you have to use -d, so 14.04 isnt out yet its still in development ?
[14:14] <Guest72829> 14.04 is official released
[14:14] <Guest72829> you can dl from their website
[14:14] <[Ex0r]> i thought so too but when I do do-release-upgrade it says there are no upgrades available
[14:14] <llutz> [Ex0r]: 14.04 is out but afaik the LTS-upgrades will not be offered until 14.04.1 is out. until then its seen as "dev-version"
[14:14] <Noiro> heh, after upgrading to 14.04, I'm actually trying to give Unity a fair chance to redeem itself
[14:15] <[Ex0r]> oooooh, gotcha
[14:15] <[Ex0r]> so thast why its not showing up, im on 12.04 lts
[14:15] <goneeuro> Hey guys. any body know how I can make my xubuntu 14.04 auto mount sd cards in the built in sd card slot?
[14:15] <kostkon> [Ex0r], http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-12-04
[14:15] <elliotd123> [Ex0r]: you might be able to build a newer version of Cmake from source
[14:15] <[Ex0r]> i got it using do-release-upgrade -d
[14:15] <dw1> Noiro: i tried ... for a few minutes :P
[14:15] <xMopxShell> hey, what needs to be done to get my non-boot drives listed in l/dev/disk/by-uuid/ ?
[14:15] <trijntje> goneeuro: don't they get mounted automatically when you plug them in? You could add the sd card to fstab
[14:15] <trijntje> !fstab
[14:16] <[Ex0r]> now lets see how long this takes
[14:16] <trijntje> xMopxShell: nothing, they will show there automatically
[14:16] <goneeuro> It wount auto mount and its doesnt show up with fdisk.
[14:16] <dw1> [Ex0r]: few hrs prob
[14:17] <[Ex0r]> im on a 100mbit connection, we'll see
[14:17] <jhutchins> goneeuro: check dmesg to see what's happening.
[14:17] <xMopxShell> trijntje: only my boot drive is listed in there
[14:17] <trijntje> goneeuro: do you see it in dmesg when you plug it in? Otherwise it sounds like either the card or the reader is broken
[14:17] <xMopxShell>  (/dev/vda)
[14:17] <kroonrs> Hi.  My wireless USB mouse is not working - any suggestions how to debug?
[14:17] <goneeuro> I was trying to avoid having to make an fstab entry of all my sd cards.
[14:17] <xMopxShell> but i have /dev/vdb through /dev/vde not listed
[14:18] <goneeuro> mmcblk0: error -123 sending status command, retrying
[14:18] <goneeuro> [ 2736.817751] mmcblk0: error -123 sending status command, retrying
[14:18] <goneeuro> [ 2736.817853] mmcblk0: error -123 sending status command, aborting
[14:18] <goneeuro> [ 2736.818044] ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk read failed.
[14:18] <goneeuro> [ 2736.818071] Dev mmcblk0: unable to read RDB block 0
[14:18] <goneeuro> [ 2736.818111]  mmcblk0: unable to read partition table
[14:18] <unopaste> goneeuro you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:18] <trijntje> xMopxShell: every partition should be listed under /dev/disk/by-uuid. Where did you get /dev/vdb, I've never seen that device name before
[14:19] <xMopxShell> trijntje: virtio drives (i'm running a ubuntu VM in QEMU, to play with ZFS)
[14:19] <xMopxShell> http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Virtio
[14:19] <arcsky>  how do i check if i have installed ubuntu 32 or 64bit?
[14:19] <module000> arcsky: uname -a
[14:20] <arcsky>  3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:39:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:20] <trijntje> arcsky: gears in the top right -> Details
[14:20] <module000> arcsky: see that x86_64 bit? that means you're 64-bit
[14:20] <xMopxShell> trijntje: partitions i made on the non-boot drives are listed in /dev/disk/by-partuuid/, though. but that location makes zfs angry.
[14:20] <arcsky> module000: thanks
[14:20] <dtcrshr>    hello everyone. Im searching the foruns but most of the questions are about authentication, none related to what I need to achieve. We have 6 netbooks here on the library, which we lend to the studets to use the web inside the library, they came with windows and for obvious reasons I revamped them with ubuntu lts. The problem is that we use a wpa2-enterprise authentication, and each student has its id / password for multiple services, incl
[14:20] <dtcrshr> udind the wireless authentication, for variuos purposes. Ubuntu for some reason If i create any netowrks it only saves if i prompt in a password, different from windows that I can create a connection without saving the credentials, which is the perfect situation, since many students could use the same computer, and would be prompted form his own account on the wireless
[14:20] <Noiro> arcsky: You just freaked me out for a sec. But got to system settings and 'about'
[14:21] <Noiro> I got paranoid and was like, "Holy shit, did I install 32bit instead of 64? I forgot to label the CD!"
[14:21] <module000> dtcrshr: are they all logging into ubuntu with the same username? otherwise wifi networks are saved per-user
[14:21] <dtcrshr> module000: yes. we have an admin user and a "library" generic user with limited access
[14:22] <dtcrshr> is the user the students will use, its impossible to create 6800 users on a netbook, but they should only authenticate to the wirells with theyr credentials
[14:22] <trijntje> xMopxShell: in that case I don't know what the problem is, sorry
[14:22] <module000> dtcrshr: that's your problem - you'll need to stop the saving of credentials so they all have to authenticate
[14:23] <xMopxShell> kk, thanks though. i think ill post on the forums
[14:23] <dtcrshr> module000: but it wont allow me to even create a connection, without prompting the user /password
[14:23] <dtcrshr> if it saves, it promprts only the password, not the user
[14:23] <trijntje> dtcrshr: what do you mean by that? That you need to give the password for 'library' or for the wireless network?
[14:23] <dtcrshr> the wireless network
[14:24] <dtcrshr> the limited user is just what I need
[14:24] <trijntje> dtcrshr: how about setting up a 'guest' account? All information associated with that account should be deleted when the users logs off
[14:24] <dtcrshr> thats a major problem, since I dont want to get back the netbooks to windows, which with the same ambient (admin user for TI, and limited user for lend students)
[14:24] <dw1> dtcrshr: connection infos including keys are stored in text files in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[14:25] <dtcrshr> trijntje: but when they log in as guest again, they dont have credentials to create the network connection
[14:25] <hexenmeister21> can anyone help me by installing a teamspeak server on ubuntu ?
[14:25] <trijntje> dtcrshr: what do you mean?
[14:25] <hexenmeister21> dont have linux skills for that
[14:25] <hehe_ok> guys I have a question
[14:25] <kanyl> is there a single place where i can define an administrator email adress for cron, sudo etc?
[14:26] <kikimeter> hi, I’ve installed python-software-properties but I can’t add a ppa
[14:26] <hehe_ok> I am using Ubuntu 14 and when i install vidalia it says tor's address is wrong also it would run tor as daemon by default
[14:26] <llutz> kanyl: set MAILTO systemwide and make sure it's not overriden somewhere else
[14:26] <kikimeter> « python-software-properties is already the newest version. »
[14:26] <dtcrshr> well, to create the connection I need to setup the mschap, install the certificate
[14:26] <kikimeter> -bash: add-apt-repository: command not found
[14:26] <hehe_ok> So how to disable a daemon and fix the tor error ?
[14:26] <kikimeter> any idea (ubuntu 14.04)
[14:26] <dtcrshr> I dont want the users to do this ALL the time, just need to they inset theyr user / password for the connection
[14:27] <dw1> dtcrshr: just copy the file in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[14:27] <llutz> kanyl: or use /etc/aliases to redirect all systemusers mails to a single user-account
[14:27] <dw1> dtcrshr: containing the key
[14:27] <taltk9> ubuntu 14.04 install php 5.5 correct?
[14:27] <dtcrshr> on windws its very straighforward, I can create a connection with all those configurations, certificates, and withot an user / passd
[14:27] <felsenhower_> Hey
[14:27] <dtcrshr> dw1, ill give a try, ill post back
[14:27] <kanyl> llutz: alright, so mailto environment variable?
[14:27] <Noiro> errr, I can haz assistence guys?
[14:27] <goneeuro> trijntje: I tried a couple of sd cards and they mounted. took like 45sec though. I am going to try to reformat the non working card. Weird thing is it works in my wifes win8 laptop no problem
[14:28] <Pici> kikimeter: the command is shipped in the software-properties-common package in 14.04.
[14:28] <kikimeter> ok Pici
[14:28] <Noiro> I just set the taskbar to autohide, but uhh...it's not coming back. And the windows key only searches within the opened application
[14:28] <kikimeter> how to add an extra ppa ?
[14:28] <cfhowlett> !ppa|kikimeter
[14:28] <llutz> kanyl: should work for most services, not all
[14:29] <jobarte> hi guys
[14:29] <kanyl> llutz: Giving it a try, thanks a ton.
[14:29] <trijntje> Noiro: you have to push passed the window edge to reveal the launcher. You can also hit the super/windows key
[14:29] <jobarte> is possible on ubuntu 14.04 make dowgrade to 12.04 packages?
[14:29] <dtcrshr> dw1: logged as a guest user, when I call the wpa2 connection it prompts only for the password, the user is saved
[14:29] <jobarte> example, subversion on 14.04 is 1.8, i want 1.6 and have in 12.04 packages
[14:29] <dtcrshr> I need it to ask both user and password
[14:30] <Noiro> trijntje: I can't push past as I'm controlling the comp remotely, and windows key only brings up a command launcher, not the usual search for some reason
[14:30] <kikimeter> « sudo apt-get install software-properties-common » thank you Pici
[14:30] <trijntje> Noiro: start unity-control-center from a terminal (ctrl + alt + t) and disable autohide
[14:31] <goneeuro> trijntje: I tried formating with windows to fat32 still cant see it. then tried formating with my nikon dslr and still cant see it.
[14:31] <borini> hi all, im playing around with the mouse acceleration and threshold settings in Ubuntu's mouse properties. When I change settings in the GUI and then use xset q to query the mouse settings, xset values never change. Is this normal? Mouse behaviour does change thou.
[14:32] <borini> using 12.04
[14:32] <trijntje> goneeuro: if it takes 45 for the card to show up you'll just have to be patient i think. That sounds like a driver/hardware issue thats not really fixable by mere mortals like us
[14:33] <goneeuro> trijntje: ha. Thanks. Ill just give this card to my wife. It seems to work fine in her pc.
[14:34] <hehe_ok> how to stop a daemon in ubuntu ... in debian insserv did job
[14:34] <trijntje> sudo service daemon stop
[14:35] <dw1> dtcrshr: does this help http://askubuntu.com/questions/172409/how-to-connect-to-wireless-network-at-boot-automatically
[14:35] <dtcrshr> dw1 well, ill check the link, but thats absolutely what I dont want, the login to be automatic
[14:35] <hehe_ok> trijntje: I want to disable it
[14:35] <jobarte> hi guys, is possible to install ubuntu 12.04 packages on ubuntu 14.04?
[14:35] <dw1> dtcrshr: oh
[14:35] <dtcrshr> I need the users to enter on the "library" limited user, which has no password
[14:36] <dtcrshr> and then, when they need to browse the web, the wireless conneciton will ask them for they credentials, which are they user and password
[14:36] <SirLagz> jobarte: "yes" but why would you want to ? It could break a lot of things if you try and do that
[14:36] <trijntje> jobarte: maybe, you can try but there is a good chance you get conflicts
[14:36] <dtcrshr> but, on this wpa2-enterprise connection it saves the USER
[14:36] <hehe_ok> how to disable a daemon so that i would not work on every reboot ?
[14:37] <mattias_> hey guys im running ubuntu 14.04 with open source invidia drivers and i have screen tearing thing on youtube and its only youtube anyone know how to fic this ?
[14:37] <dtcrshr> on the graphic editor for the connections, if i remove the user and password, the save button is greyed out
[14:37] <jobarte> [SirLagz]: on ubuntu 14.04 subversion is 1.8, but I use 1.6
[14:37] <jobarte> I need subversion 1.6 from ubuntu 12.04
[14:37] <vik123> i removed AMD catalyst driver as mentioned http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide . But when i try to reinstall , it says already exist
[14:38] <dw1> dtcrshr: is the user not stored somewhere
[14:38] <dtcrshr> so, that breaks almost all the purpose of a secured wireless connection as such
[14:38] <dw1> dtcrshr: that can be cleared
[14:38] <CiSense> My system sucessfully updated to 14.04 from 13.10 but kept the 3.11.0-19 kernel. As everything seems to work fine, do I need to install the 3.13 kernel?
[14:38] <trijntje> dtcrshr: its a bit weird to have a single user on the pc, but different users on the network. Thats why the software wasn't written to accomodate your setup
[14:38] <dtcrshr> TriJetScud: well, on windows, mac it is very straighforward
[14:39] <dtcrshr> Imagine for a big network with public computers, and no way to find which user was on that computer on that moment
[14:39] <trijntje> dtcrshr: how about writing a small script that deletes the network configuration of user library when people logout?
[14:40] <dtcrshr> I could have a domain controller, but I dont have resources to do that
[14:40] <module000> dtcrshr: that's what LDAP is for
[14:40] <dtcrshr> I use ldap / radius for the wireless authentication
[14:40] <vik123> i removed AMD catalyst driver as mentioned http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide . But when i try to reinstall , it says already exist
[14:41] <dtcrshr> trijntje: if I manually delete the user from the connection, the limited user when calls the connection it pops up, but the user is greyed out, it only accepts the password
[14:41] <David__> Hey guys, I just upgraded to Ubuntu 14.04 from Ubuntu 13.10 but now the desktop isn't showing after I pass the login screen. Could anyone please help me with this?
[14:41] <dtcrshr> i need the user to prompt up its FULL credentials, which are a user and a password
[14:41] <module000> dtcrshr: you could always prompt the user for user/password, then call the wpa bits to join the network with those credentials. some assembly required
[14:41] <dtcrshr> I can agree that a wpa, or wep connection would have only a password, and thats what a wpa-enterprise level authenticatio is for, to use a user database
[14:41] <trijntje> dtcrshr: I mean modify a configuration file, not via networkmanager
[14:42] <trijntje> David__: try loging in via terminal (ctrl + alt + f1), and type unity --replace
[14:42] <dtcrshr> trijntje: it deletes the user, but when it prompts for connection the user has a field i cant insert data
[14:43] <David__> trijntje Thanks I'll try that!
[14:43] <hehe_ok> does any one know how to disable a daemon in ubuntu ?
[14:43] <dtcrshr> module000: considering its a hp netbook with only a few gigs of hd, I cant count on creating an user for each and every possible user on the cpter
[14:43] <module000> dtcrshr: that's not what i'm saying, *prompt* on login for user/pass, then call wpa with that
[14:44] <module000> dtcrshr: if you want to avoid any actual scripting, you can use zenity or another easy-mode way to capture input & prompt
[14:44] <module000> dtcrshr: ie, for your shared user account all these folks are using, disable network manager and run a startup script to prompt and configure wifi
[14:44] <dtcrshr> Im just replicatint an ambient that is possible on the other labs, with windows and mac I have a limited user for the students, and if they need to use the web they can insert their wpa2-enterprise / radius credentials
[14:44] <trijntje> hehe_ok: you should be able to find that easily using google. I don't know by heart sorry
[14:45] <hehe_ok> trijntje: No things are different in 14
[14:45] <llutz> hehe_ok: "echo manual |sudo tee -a /etc/init/<service>.conf.override"  if it is a upstart-job
[14:46] <trijntje> dtcrshr: I agree with module000, thats probably the easiest solution to you problem
[14:46] <joelmo> I want to install the mediawiki package (http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/mediawiki) there are several httpd i can choose from, it looks like, how do i do that when using apt-get?
[14:46] <llutz> hehe_ok: ".../<service>.override"*   sry
[14:47] <llutz> hehe_ok:  Info about upstart at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[14:47] <cfhowlett> joelmo run a terminal: apt-cache policy mediawiki
[14:47] <dtcrshr> module000: but that way ill force the user to use the user to be online everytime, maybe they wont browse the web
[14:47] <dtcrshr> so they wont need to connect, and get an ip to be idel
[14:47] <dtcrshr> idle
[14:48] <Zyrax> ls
[14:48] <trijntje> dtcrshr: just hook the script up to a shortcut on the desktop named 'go to the internet' ;)
[14:48] <cfhowlett> Zyrax IRC is not your terminal
[14:48] <Zyrax> cfhowlett: Sorry
[14:48] <hydruid> My clock is missing from the top panel with Ubuntu 14.04. Settings->Time and Date->Clock Tab all the settings are greyed out
[14:48] <llutz> joelmo: sudo apt-get install mediawiki lighttpd (or whatever httpd you want)
[14:49] <trijntje> hydruid: sounds like indicator-datetime crashed
[14:49] <vik123> i removed AMD catalyst driver as mentioned http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide . But when i try to reinstall , it says already exist
[14:50] <joelmo> llutz: https://gist.github.com/36e673594fb66f7f4e0b it wants to install apache2 anyways
[14:50] <dholbach> hiya
[14:50] <joelmo> cfhowlett: i dont understand what to do with the output i got from apt-cache
[14:50] <dholbach> join us in #ubuntu-classroom for day 3 of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[14:51] <cfhowlett> joelmo llutz gave you better advice than mine ...
[14:51] <llutz> joelmo: try nginx-full
[14:52] <hydruid> trijntje: weird.......this fixed it: killall unity-panel-service
[14:52] <llutz> joelmo: "apt-cache depends mediawiki" shows you the packages you might use
[14:52] <joelmo> llutz: it still prompts it will install apache2
[14:52] <dtcrshr> yeah trijntje... very sad. ill try to hook up with that, ill post the results if I get any. The major problem is that on the other campus (our university has 34 of them, more then 140k students) just turned back the netboosk to windows to resolve this issue
[14:52] <llutz> joelmo: install nginx-full, then mediawiki. still the same?
[14:52] <module000> dtcrshr: so 140,000 * <license cost> = your savings. that's how promotions work :)
[14:53] <dtcrshr> considering the social impact of promprint ubuntu / open source for the students that dont have notebooks, ubuntu just shot its foot with this locked up wpa2 concept
[14:53] <hehe_ok> trijntje: llutz its update-rc.d
[14:53] <llutz> hehe_ok: until next package update
[14:53] <hehe_ok> update-rc.d service disable/enable
[14:53] <hehe_ok> I am using 14.04
[14:53] <llutz> hehe_ok: man update-rc.d
[14:53] <hehe_ok> its so cute and fast
[14:53] <hehe_ok> :]
[14:54] <hehe_ok> llutz: i m doing the thing wrong ?
[14:54] <dtcrshr> yeah module000 imagine that money what we could buy wiht then... considering here in brazil that we are not so rich to throw money on the drain
[14:54] <dtcrshr> also, have you heard of eduroam?
[14:54] <trijntje> dtcrshr: you could ask on the forum, there could be alternatives to network-manager that suit your problem better.
[14:54] <llutz> hehe_ok: it will work for a while, usually until next package update updating the init-files
[14:54] <dtcrshr> https://www.eduroam.org/
[14:54] <hehe_ok> llutz: I see
[14:54] <llutz> hehe_ok: update-rc.d is for sysV-init, it handles upstart-jobs too but with issues.
[14:55] <trijntje> dtcrshr: it wouldn't take a long time to write the scripts described, so no need to go back to windows ;)
[14:55] <dtcrshr> its a world wide network authentication for students  / internships. also they need an user / password. we are part of the eduroam network, but also if I create the eduroam conneciton on ubuntu
[14:55] <joelmo> llutz: it is still the same
[14:55] <trijntje> hydruid: maybe that reloads all indicators
[14:55] <ikonia> dtcrshr you will need a certficiate imported into network manager to work with eduroam
[14:56] <dtcrshr> it prompts only the password... the foruns didnt get any, I have much trouble to build up the question for start
[14:56] <llutz> joelmo: odd, try "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends nginx-full && sudo apt-get install --no-install recommends mediawiki"
[14:56] <llutz> joelmo: odd, try "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends nginx-full && sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends mediawiki"
[14:56] <ikonia> dtcrshr: you need to import a certificate to use eduroam
[14:56] <hydruid> trijntje: yes it should....found a bug for 13.10, must have transferred :P
[14:56] <dtcrshr> ikonia: yes! it works fine, but when the next student would use the netbooks, it brings up the user saved, and its not possible to change, on each connection, the user and password
[14:56] <ikonia> dtcrshr you need seperate logins on the ubuntu machine
[14:57] <dtcrshr> its mandatory to use certificates with eduroam, and with our local wpa2-enterprise wireless service
[14:57] <skinux> Is this disk space usage at all normal?: /usr/share/doc: 1.3GB; /usr/share/icons: 620.5MB; /usr/share/doc/texlive-doc: 721.3MB
[14:57] <ikonia> dtcrshr: you also need to click the check box (uncheck it) that says "make connection available to all users"
[14:57] <dtcrshr> ikonia: thats impossible. we have MANY  users
[14:57] <ikonia> dtcrshr of course thats possible
[14:57] <ikonia> dtcrshr: user accounts should not be shared
[14:57] <trijntje> skinux: yeah, latex uses a massive amount of space for docs
[14:57] <dtcrshr> why?
[14:57] <emmanuel0791> Hello..quick question: Is it normal that the monitor goes in stand-by for a sec when booting Xubuntu 14.04 ?
[14:57] <dtcrshr> cant I have a laboratory with a guest user?
[14:57] <ikonia> dtcrshr security - the reasons you've just explained
[14:58] <joelmo> llutz: he still wants to install apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-bin apache2.2-common
[14:58] <joelmo>   libapache2-mod-php5 libapr1 libapruti etc :/ maybe the packege just isnt compatible for selecting httpd
[14:58] <ikonia> dtcrshr: not if your eduroam requires user/auth
[14:58] <skinux> How many things in Ubuntu specifically use LaTex?
[14:58] <ikonia> dtcrshr: unless you have a guest account for eduroam (which you are not allowed)
[14:58] <dtcrshr> I dont care the credentials to log in the station, since its kinda of a quiosque
[14:58] <ikonia> dtcrshr eduroam does
[14:58] <joelmo> skinux: interesting question
[14:58] <trijntje> emmanuel0791: yeah, thats normal, it has to do with the way booting ubuntu works
[14:58] <ikonia> dtcrshr: which is why you are not meant to share accounts
[14:58] <llutz> joelmo: "aptitude search '~Phttpd'" says it is. sorry no more ideas
[14:58] <dtcrshr> and blocked up all other things, but the user could, if it nees to use the wireless, to prompt up its user / password
[14:59] <majod> is anyone using the xorg drivers on ati? in trusty the dynamic power management is supposed to be enabled but my gpu fan spins more than with fglrx drivers...maybe it needs some tuning?
[14:59] <dtcrshr> ikonia: thats the major purpose for guest / limited users
[14:59] <joelmo> llutz: alright thanks
[14:59] <ikonia> dtcrshr no it's not
[14:59] <emmanuel0791> Ah okay thanks :) So i guess the monitor just gets no signal for a moment there :D
[14:59] <ikonia> dtcrshr: you are using it for a function it's not designed for
[15:00] <dtcrshr> what would you suggest then ikonia ? to buy a active directory so we could have separated users for each cpter? thats way too expensive
[15:00] <dtcrshr> I cant imagine the use them for guest / limited user accounts then
[15:00] <ikonia> dtcrshr: active directory is nothing to do with it,
[15:01] <ikonia> dtcrshr: it doesn't change the fact you are using the guest account against eduroams policy
[15:01] <ikonia> hence why you can't get it to work how you want/expect
[15:01] <trijntje> ikonia: he is using a guest account on ubuntu, not an eduroam-guest account
[15:01] <ikonia> trijntje yes, and then wants each user using the guest account to have different eduroam details
[15:01] <icne> hello everyone, I'm getting the error that my package system is broken with the following command line: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7322906/
 running install -f returned this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7322918/
[15:02] <ikonia> hence why it's not working
[15:03] <icne> I've been having this mysql errors at every update-upgrade for a while.
[15:03] <dark-cris> ciao a tutti
[15:03] <icne> this time with the last update I got this system tray warning that I needed to run package manager
[15:03] <lostmymind> I'm new to linux. I'm trying to install my video drivers, but when I type  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current  It wants it install the 304 version which is the most current. However my video card is very old. According to NVidea I want the 96.43.23 version. Is there a way to point to that version?
[15:03] <icne> which didnt fix it as seen above
[15:03] <llutz> joelmo: sudo apt-get install nginx-full  mediawiki apache2-bin- apache2-  -s          last try
[15:04] <llutz> joelmo: remove -s if it would do the right thing
[15:04] <trijntje> lostmymind: if your card is old you migth not even need additional drivers, have you checked 'software & updates' to see if you need any additional drivers?
[15:05] <llutz> joelmo: i guess nginx will need some php5-stuff too then
[15:05] <dtcrshr> ikonia: well, the eduroam policy is that each user has its own authentication, it dont forces up the computer itself to have a separated user, desktop of its own
[15:05] <dtcrshr> if it was, we would never get aproved to use the service
[15:05] <skinux> I was asking about disk usage because apt-get dist-upgrade returned 'no disk space' just before initramfs-tools. And, now I have to boot using previous kernel version or I get a BusyBox instance (which I've never understood how to use).
[15:05] <ikonia> dtcrshr it does if you don't want to share the eduroam credentials
[15:05] <kaoz> hay hay
[15:05] <Sivik> anyone notice any oddities with 14.04 and the ati drivers?
[15:06] <Sivik> I'm seeing an issue with it not picking up the monitors on my other video card in amdcccle
[15:06] <dtcrshr> we have a lot of laboratories, as I mentioned before, with windows and macs, that  uses limited users for the students, and they can use the eduroam auth just fine, which prompts them for the user / password
[15:06] <Sivik> it was working fine before I did the upgrade
[15:06] <trijntje> ikonia: wouldn't it be easy to write a script that asks the user for username/password and connects to eduroam?
[15:06] <kaoz> oooo 14.04 is out... is it worth the update?
[15:06] <ikonia> trijntje: sure, you could write a script that deletes the certificate, the user accounts and the password for network manager on logi - however that would be against eduroam policy
[15:07] <lostmymind> trijntje I'm trying to install the exact correct version of the video drivers to see if thats the problem with why I can't get flash sites to play video. If I DON'T install flash, the video plays, but says I need flash. If I do install flash It's just a white box.
[15:07] <ikonia> trijntje: it's supposed to be tracked/tied to an account
[15:07] <dtcrshr> I know that I could use on windows or *nix a samba directory to have credentials for the systems, but that would consume way more resouces that needed just for status
[15:07] <kaoz> i havent updated since things always seem to break when i update linux on my labtop
[15:07] <lostmymind> trijntje also software and updates wants to give me version 173
[15:07] <AndChat|569025> Hey guys, i'm running ununtu 14.04 and the desktop doesn't load after I login. I' ve tried to login with the terminal and use unity --replace but that doesnt work. It says no display variable set. Could some please help me with this?
[15:07] <ikonia> dtcrshr: you'll need to write something that interfaces with network manager on login/log out to wipe out the certificate and credentials
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> lostmymind: what GPU do you use?
[15:08] <dtcrshr> but the certificate wont change. I just need the user to prompt his OWN user / password
[15:08] <trijntje> ikonia: what exactly is the eduroam policy on user accounts? I was talking about disabling networkManager alltogether and connecting using wpa_supplicant or something like that
[15:08] <dtcrshr> thats not shared access, IMO
[15:08] <lostmymind> ActionParsnip Geforce4 MX integrated GPU
[15:08] <ikonia> trijntje: that's quite a tricky process to use wpa_supplicant the recommendation is to use network-manager if available
[15:09] <ikonia> trijntje: of course thats a recommendation that can be ignored
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> lostmymind: have you tried running full updates using terminal?
[15:09] <ikonia> dtcrshr: removing the certficiate is the only way to be %100 certain that no-one will connect with cached credenticals that have not been cleared down properly
[15:09] <icne>  hello everyone, I'm getting the error that my package system is broken with the following command line: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7322906/ . running install -f returned this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7322918/ . I've been having this mysql errors at every update-upgrade for a while. this time with the last update I got this system tray warning that I needed to run package manager. which didnt fix it as seen from pastes.
[15:10] <skinux> Why do I need so many version of kernel source storaged on my system???
[15:10] <aysorth> You don't.
[15:10] <lostmymind> ActionParsnip the first time I installed I did. Then out of nowhere firefox froze up a few days ago. I turn off the PC, reboot, and couldn't get back into lubuntu. Reinstalled and since then have NOT done the updates. Not saying they caused the crash, but I don't know what did.
[15:10] <aysorth> skinux: check out apt-get clean and autoclean
[15:10] <sege__> ikonia: but the certificate is not a user certificate. Certs needed for eduroam are to validate that the eduroam wifi is authentic.
[15:10] <skinux> I've already done both, 2-3 times.
[15:11] <ikonia> sege__ correct, but if the certficate is there - it will connect and thus use the previous credentials
[15:11] <ikonia> unless you can be %101 certain to be able to clear down the credentials on logout, which would be a "script" which is not %100 certain
[15:11] <skinux> I also don't understand /usr/share/icons being over 620MB...icons should be very very tiny files.
[15:12] <dtcrshr> sege__: yes, its just to validate the partnership, the certificate for all users are the same, what changes is the user / pasword for the later auth
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> lostmymind: tried the additional drivers app?
[15:12] <lostmymind> ActionParsnip it was blank
[15:12] <llutz> skinux: you only need the newest and maybe 1 older kernel as a fallback, remove all older versions
[15:12] <icne> hello everyone, I'm getting the error that my package system is broken with the following command line: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7322906/ . running install -f returned this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7322918/ . I've been having this mysql errors at every update-upgrade for a while. this time with the last update I got this system tray warning that I needed to run package manager. which didnt fix it as seen from pastes.
[15:12] <mzaza> I'm on Ubuntu 14.04, sometimes when I open applications like KVM or open office the menu bar (close, minimize and maximize) appears to be hidden and when I switch to the workspace before it shows down the workspace any ideas on how to fix that?
[15:14] <AndChat|569025> Trijntje: could you please help me again with my problem. Your suggestion of using unity --replace does not work. It gives a warning saying: no DISPLAY variable set, setting it to :0
[15:14] <lostmymind> ActionParsnip I even downloaded the correct file from NVidea, but I don't know what to do with it. Then I read that installing video drivers that way is a bad idea.
[15:14] <trijntje> AndChat|569025: did you switch back to the graphical desktop using ctrl + alt + f7?
[15:15] <dtcrshr> so going a lower step, lets consider that wpa-enterprise level auth uses 3 itens, the certificate, the user, and the password. The certificate, for obvious reasons, needs to be the same for all users trying to authenticate, but each and every user has its own user/ password
[15:15] <tzvi> "/alias hideadd eval set activity_hide_targets $activity_hide_targets $-"
[15:15] <dtcrshr> thats on our ldap user database, which they use to authenticate on a numerous other services, like buyn mesa tickets, borrowing library books
[15:16] <mzaza> Here's an image to clarify my problem
[15:16] <mzaza> http://postimg.org/image/4n85z5csb/
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> lostmymind: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current     will do it
[15:18] <dtcrshr> the eduroam / whatever network that uses a wpa2-enterprise certificate is just to make sure, for the user security that he is not connectiont to a phantom router with the same ssid, which someone could use to steal users credentials
[15:18] <lostmymind> ActionParsnip that wants to give me version 304
[15:18] <lostmymind> ActionParsnip I need version 96.43.23
[15:18] <AndChat|569025> trijntje: yes, i also tried it by login in with the graphical ui first and then using the comsole to type unity --replace but then I get a whole lost of compiz errors
[15:19] <ncfi1013> im trying to set up thunderbird to receive mail from yahoo and no matter how many times i put in my username and password to create an account it tells me that my username and passward is invalid. i use the same info to log in to the site itself. so it cant be invalid. any suggestions what im doing wrong?
[15:19] <lostmymind> ActionParsnip I think it's last update was 2004
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> !find nvidia
[15:19] <dtcrshr> the radios / wifi controller after checking the certificate os from that network, then passes up to the next level, on the ldap service which they have the user / passwords from there. The certificate is not for each user, is for an entire network
[15:20] <chro> after upgrading to ubuntu 14.04 a lot of things stopped working, like it was expected.... Anyone can tell me why I cannot write chars with accents in chromium now?
[15:20] <joelmo> llutz: seems like that will do the trick, thanks
[15:20] <mzaza> Is there an alternative for unity --reset
[15:20] <trijntje> chro: only chromium or everywhere?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> lostmymind: https://launchpad.net/~mati75/+archive/nvidia-96?field.series_filter=trusty   maybe. You may find the open source driver is possibly ok
[15:21] <chro> trijntje, only chromium
[15:22] <Rory> mzaza: "alternative" ? What are you expecting unity --reset to do that it isn't doing?
[15:22] <lostmymind> ActionParsnip yes, that looks to be what I need......So how would I install it?
[15:22] <mzaza> Rory: I get an error that reset in deprecheated
[15:23] <Rory> mzaza: That's because it is deprecated. Just run "unity"
[15:23] <mzaza> http://postimg.org/image/4n85z5csb/ Rory That's my problem
[15:23] <Rory> mzaza: What happens if you just run the "unity" command?
[15:24] <lalalala> !unity
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> lostmymind: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mati75/nvidia-96; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-96xx nvidia-settings-legacy-96xx
[15:25] <trijntje> dtcrshr: you need to write a script that asks users for their username and password, and use that with a tool like wpa_supplicant to connect the users to eduroam
[15:26] <lostmymind> ActionParsnip Do I neep 96xx or do I put 96.43.23?
[15:26] <xMopxShell> hey, is there a command to update/flush the entries in /dev/disk/by-id, /dev/disk/by-uuid/, etc?
[15:26] <mzaza> Rory: Sorry disconncted,  did u say anything after i sent u the screenshot :D ?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> lostmymind: those are the package names you need
[15:26] <Rory> mzaza: What happens if you just run the "unity" command?
[15:26] <bazhang> !blkid | xMopxShell
[15:26] <xMopxShell> thanks bazhang, ill check that out
[15:26] <Rory> mzaza: The --replace argument is deprecated
[15:27] <lostmymind> ActionParsnip and one thing I notice is that it says filtered for trusty, but I'm on raring. Is that still going to install ok?
[15:28] <ice9> how to pass packages names in file to apt-get?
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> lostmymind: raring is EOL and no longer supported by the com,munity
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> ice9: sudo apt-get install `cat filename`
[15:28] <suigeneis> hi
[15:28] <suigeneis> I have a serious issue
[15:29] <stxaBe> what is it, suigeneis?
[15:29] <AndChat-569025> This is what my problem looks like: http://postimg.org/image/krlzukq1v/
[15:30] <suigeneis> I started upgradin my laptop and I left it alone. I don't even know of the process was completed. now my laptop won't boot into ubuntu. what can I do? I'm on LiveCD
[15:30] <ghotler> Has someone any experience about flickering and glitching the new ubuntu (14.04) when change resolution or connect a new monitor?
[15:31] <Rory> suigeneris: How far do you get in the boot process?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> AndChat-569025: you arent on the Trusty kernel, you are still on 3.8.0-31
[15:31] <Rory> AndChat-569025: run the command "startx"
[15:31] <Rory> AndChat-569025: The "unity" command only works when you already have a graphical session
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> AndChat-569025: sudo apt-get --reinstall install lightdm    may also help
[15:34] <AndChat-569025> I just rebooted after the upgrade was complete and this is the only kernel it shows. Startx doesnt work either. I get an error with fglrx.
[15:35] <wheresmypaaants> Hi, i need help figuring out which driver to select for my NVIDIA Graphics card
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> AndChat-569025: i suggest you remove the proproietary driver, especially before distribution upgrades like that
[15:35] <skinux> Recovered some disk space by deleting older kernel sources
[15:36] <netyire> Rynomster: fearsome!
[15:36] <Rynomster> lol
[15:36] <wheresmypaaants> Hello?
[15:36]  * skinux still wonders how it's possible to have free space, but used up all inodes. Doesn't sound like good memory management
[15:37] <wheresmypaaants> I was talking to nith earlier and he said that I shouldn't select the driver on my own or I could screw everything up
[15:37] <trijntje> wheresmypaaants: go to software & updates
[15:37] <AndChat-569025> Is there anyway i can still remove the proproietary drivers and revert back to the old ones?
[15:37] <wheresmypaaants> trijntje: Okay
[15:37] <wheresmypaaants> trijntje: What next?
[15:37] <netyire> AndChat-569025: you can uninstall them, yes
[15:37] <Iriez> Hello: I've implemented this script in this ask ubuntu thread, but i wanted to verify that its actually running on shutdown. Can someone explain to me how I can do this? Im assuming i need to remove the graphical interface so i can see what the output is at shutdown? http://askubuntu.com/questions/105266/upstart-jobs-and-init-d-scripts-not-launching
[15:37] <Iriez> (i dont think its working, btw)
[15:38] <trijntje> go to the 'additional drivers' tab, if your pc needs additional drivers they will be listed there. If nothing is listed, your hardware works with ubuntu by default
[15:38] <Iriez> And I've adjusted the task to include a different one
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> skinux: memory is nothing to do with inodes
[15:38] <dtcrshr> dw1 I created a copy of the connection file from the system-connections, with the identity and password blank, and scripted to the file to be copied over when the user logs, but the connection without this info just does nothing
[15:38] <wheresmypaaants> trijntje: I see multiple Nvidia drivers. Should I only select open source so Ubuntu developers can help make them ubuntu friendly?
[15:39] <trijntje> wheresmypaaants: if everything works you can stick to the open source drivers. If you find performance is too low you can try the closed source drivers
[15:39] <dtcrshr> so, cleaning the user / password from the /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections wont work. Also I noticed when I go to edit connecitons, besides the file still exists on the system-connecitons folder, it dont show on the edit connections
[15:39] <wheresmypaaants> Okay
[15:39] <junka> account-plugin-irc does not display the first message
[15:39] <wheresmypaaants> trijntje: Thanks
[15:39] <Pici> junka: Is that a pidgin thing?
[15:40] <BlackGlasses> ubuntu goes black screen when clicking on fullscreen permissions while using flickr (whith chromium)
[15:40] <junka> empathy Pici
[15:40] <Rory> wheresmypaaants the open source drivers are default, (you're already using them) and in my experience you should use them unless you have a reason not to
[15:40] <BlackGlasses> ubuntu 14.04
[15:40] <BlackGlasses> can't use the computer because I see nothing but black (even tried ctrl+Alt+F1 and still black)
[15:41] <junka> also keyboards shortcuts are not displaying after pressing super button, it worked on livecd
[15:41] <wheresmypaaants> Rory: I'm hoping I can stick to open source, yesterday I practically bricked my computer by doing a proprietary driver, it sent everything out of whack and unloaded stuff it shouldn't have at boot which locked everything down. Luckily I fixed it with the help of nith
[15:42] <wheresmypaaants> Should I reboot upon switching drivers?
[15:44] <Ivan_Shih> Hello everyone! I want to ask if I can install AMD Legacy Catalyst 13.1 on 14.04. My graphics card is Mobility Radeon HD 4330/4350/4550. Thanks!
[15:45] <suigeneris> Rory: I get past GRUB/ and that's it
[15:45] <jayaura> I'm on trusty and while installing something, "processing triggers for shared-mime-info" takes too much time that it used to take in my previous debian system., What could be the reason ?
[15:46] <mzaza> Rory: It runs unity on the unity I currently have, no need for it.
[15:46] <mzaza> Rory: Unity is working fine, it's just this annoying problem I have I've pasted on the screenshot
[15:46] <petros_> hello! anyone knows how to watch videos on Acer AspireONE A0751h with gma500 with lubuntu?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> petros_: install lubuntu-restriced-extras
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> petros_: should install codecs for the media players like totem and so forth
[15:47] <Rory> mzaza: The problem being the window is off the top of the screen? Use alt-click and drag to move windows
[15:47] <s2013> can you install f2c from package manger?
[15:47] <junka> the default player mplayer should play them out of the box
[15:48] <Rory> s2013: I don't know, why don't you try it and find out?
[15:48] <Rory> !info f2c
[15:48] <Rory> s2013: Yes
[15:48] <s2013> k
[15:48] <s2013> thanks
[15:48] <StackedOdds>  Hi, linux newbie here, could anyone point me in the right direction to correctly use a 2nd hard drive (not boot) ? It's working "out of the box" but I've got some issues finding linked files after a reboot with Clementine, which I suspect has to do with the lack of proper mounting
[15:48] <petros_> ActionParsnip, what kind of codecs?
[15:49] <junka> !info empathy-skype
[15:49] <Rory> !fstab | StackedOdds take a look here, describes how to set up permanent mount points
[15:49] <StackedOdds> Thank you very much :)
[15:51] <Ivan_Shih> Hello ! I want to know if I can install AMD Legacy Catalyst 13.1 on 14.04. My graphics card is Mobility Radeon HD 4330/4350/4550. Thanks!
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> petros_: MP3 / MP4, various proprietary codecs that cannot be included due to legal reasons
[15:51] <StackedOdds> !fstab
[15:51] <StackedOdds> !Partitions
[15:53] <mzaza> Rory: That's a temp solutions, is there a permenant solution?
[15:54] <treehau55> hi, I am finding doing a simple cron job on ubuntu more difficult than it probably should be. There are a sea of conflicting articles on the net as well which isnt helping
[15:54] <jrock20041> Running xubuntu 14.04 and had prime working. Did an system update and now its not working. Thoughts?
[15:54] <tzvi> treehau55: what are you trying to do?
[15:54] <petros_> ActionParsnip, the big mystery is that when I boot from live it plays videos normally
[15:55] <pero_p> hi, is this possible to add a user to system by just editing /etc/passwd & /etc/shadow ?!?!
[15:55] <suigeneris> Rory: are you still there?
[15:55] <jrock20041> I also lost my prime support as well
[15:56] <trijntje> pero_p: I'm not sure, why not just use a graphical program or useradd?
[15:56] <jrock20041> I reinstalled nvidia-331, rebooted and no go
[15:56] <treehau55> tzvi: well first, I am just trying to simply see if I can get an echo back to the console as a tester to see if I am doing this correctly, so pretty much whatever the time is now, + 1 minute, and echo "hi"
[15:56] <jrock20041> I dont see anything in my xlog as far as errors
[15:57] <pero_p> trijntje, cuz i need an script to do it for me and i should write it myself, i thought if it could possible by just run one command
[15:57] <salsero|2> adduser
[15:57] <treehau55> tzvi: as far as my cron implementation goes, I seem to be using Cronie
[15:58] <tzvi> treehau55: do you know the crontab syntax?
[15:58] <uskerine> hi, could someone please help me and let me know where should I define a cron job? (to be executed when system is up, no matter if user is logged in or not)
[15:58] <pbrant> pero_p - joined this half way through but why not just call logger ?
[15:58] <tzvi> uskerine: read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto#Crontab Sections
[15:58] <tzvi> especially the sections part
[15:58] <Term1nal> Need a bit of advice... my CRON doesn't seem to be running. I've checked the syntax, the script works if I run it normally, just plain doesn't seem to be working at all. C
[15:58] <treehau55> tzvi: yes, its right there in the file too.  I am familiar with that document
[15:58] <pero_p> pbrant, logger?
[15:59] <pbrant> you want to log a message - call logger
[15:59] <treehau55> tzvi: at this point im trying everything to see if something sticks, im trying crontab file, trying etc./cron.d, trying user cron file, ect ect
[15:59] <tzvi> treehau55: I'm not sure on this, but I don't know if you can echo to and active session using cron
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> uskerine: if you have a desktop UI then gnome-schedule can be used as a GUI to cron, but learning to make crontabs is a useful skill
[16:00] <treehau55> tzvi: amongst numerous examples I have looked at, they all seem to do that as a tester just as I am trying
[16:00] <treehau55> tzvi: i have a question though, when exactly does the cron daemon pick up on the new crontab entry? immediately? or do you restart the service?
[16:00] <tzvi> treehau55: I would try writing a file with cron, then check for that file
[16:01] <pero_p> i dont want to log a message :), i want to add a same user on about 100 pc's
[16:01] <pero_p> i thought if it could done with a script editing /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[16:01] <uskerine> thanks actionparsnip
[16:02] <treehau55> tzvi: yes that seems to work
[16:02] <tzvi> treehau55: I believe it happens immediately
[16:02] <uskerine> once set up with crontab -e, do i have any further action to ensure that task is executed even when user is not logged in?
[16:02]  * pbrant apologises.. miss read thread..
[16:02] <lostmymind> If you root your smartphone and use clockwork mod recovery you can backup EVERYTHING on your phone. OS and all files. Then when you restore, even if it's a year later, it's as if your phone is right back to where it was when you backed up. On windows you can't do this. Can you do it on lubuntu?
[16:02] <tzvi> treehau55: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10732864/cron-jobs-output-on-console
[16:02] <tzvi> I believe thats the only way to echo to console
[16:02] <tzvi> first answer
[16:03] <tzvi> lostmymind: you can do it on windows on linux
[16:03] <tzvi> i do it daily
[16:04] <lostmymind> on windows you can't backup the OS though
[16:04] <Term1nal> lostmymind: yes you can.
[16:04] <Term1nal> system image backup
[16:04] <tzvi> lostmymind: clockworkmod recovery doesnt work on your pc, its on your phone
[16:05] <tzvi> unless I am missing something
[16:05] <pratz> Hello guys
[16:05] <lostmymind> tzvi I know, thats why I started what I said with "on your smartphone". But it's the only thing I've ever known that backs up every single thing, as if it's cloning the entire system.
[16:05] <suigeneris> I started upgradin my laptop and I left it alone. I don't even know of the process was completed. now my laptop won't boot into ubuntu. what can I do? I'm on LiveCD
[16:05] <lostmymind> So I was using it as a referance point
[16:06] <tzvi> lostmymind: backup the entire thing than move it to your computer over usb or something
[16:06] <treehau55> tzvi: ok I am trying that out
[16:06] <pratz> I am getting this error http://pastebin.com/0t5vDX0t
[16:07] <tzvi> lostmymind: being that this is #ubuntu not #cwm, i suggest you take this private :-)
[16:07] <treehau55> tzvi: hey there it is!
[16:07] <lostmymind> tzvi I know about that for smartphones, but I'm wondering if theres an equivilent for linix desktops
[16:07] <tzvi> oh
[16:07] <pratz> I am trying to install vim
[16:07] <treehau55> tzvi: now the tricky part, I have to automate this cronjob, so I cant use the interactive editor.
[16:07] <ed__> hi, do we have any grub experts here?
[16:07] <treehau55> tzvi: are you aware of any way to do this?
[16:07] <tzvi> lostmymind: clonezilla
[16:08] <tzvi> treehau55: automate how? explain what you're trying to accomplish
[16:08] <lostmymind> tzvi thank you, I'll look into that. So Clonezilla is to desktop linix as clockwork mod recovery is to android, right?
[16:09] <pratz> http://pastebin.com/0t5vDX0t anyone guys
[16:09] <Rory> ed__: Ask your question and find out
[16:09] <tzvi> lostmymind: it will work for linux AND windows
[16:09] <Rory> pratz: Can you also pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update"  please ?
[16:10] <tzvi> lostmymind: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/windows-and-office/how-do-i-clone-a-hard-drive-with-clonezilla/2254/
[16:10] <treehau55> tzvi: writing a puppet module to deploy to a server, and the server needs to periodically run a crawler, so I am going to use puppet to automate  the task of writing the crontab entry
[16:10] <netyire> ed__: I can google faster than you can yahoo
[16:10] <pratz> Rory: already did it
[16:10] <Rory> pratz: I can't see the link
[16:10] <Rory> Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[16:11] <tuakshay> Hey anyone using Ubuntu 14.04 ??
[16:11] <Rory> tuakshay: Yes, ask your support question
[16:11] <tuakshay> im not able to install Ubuntu 14.04
[16:11] <hydruid> tuakshay: I am
[16:11] <hydruid> tuakshay: what goes wrong
[16:11] <netyire> tuakshay: before no I have, problem explain?
[16:11] <Rory> tuakshay: Can you provide some more details?
[16:11] <tzvi> treehau55: I'm no puppet master :-) but this should work http://askubuntu.com/questions/58575/add-lines-to-cron-from-script
[16:12] <tzvi> first answer
[16:12] <pratz> Rory: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7323351/
[16:12] <tuakshay> it is booting into my live dvd , then it gets stuck at unity
[16:12] <treehau55> tzvi: thanks Ill give it a shot!
[16:12] <Sivik> What would cause my xorg.conf to get over-written each time I reboot ubuntu 14.04?
[16:12] <hydruid> tuakshay: more details? screen freezes?
[16:12] <netyire> tuakshay: we don't bite hard, state your problem! odds are we can solve it! we can solve any problem!
[16:13] <tuakshay> yea screen freezes
[16:13] <netyire> tuakshay: have you tried turning it off and on again?
[16:13] <hydruid> tuakshay: does your dvd-rom go crazy?
[16:13] <tuakshay> i have to reboot again , again it gets stuck
[16:13] <tuakshay> i tried with 2 dvds
[16:13] <foofoobar> Hi. Does nautilus automatically rotates images?
[16:13] <netyire> are you able to boot in failsafe?
[16:13] <tuakshay> Yes
[16:13] <hydruid> tuakshay: did you check the MD5 of the image? Maybe try to install from USB instead of from DVD
[16:13] <tuakshay> fail safe is booting
[16:14] <netyire> tuakshay: that is good. can you press ctl+alt+f6 and enter the terminal?
[16:14] <tuakshay> yea
[16:14] <Sivik> any thoughts on my question?
[16:14] <netyire> tuakshay: that is good. can you provide me with your xorg logs?
[16:14] <ed__> ok, i was running xp and puppy frugal and ubuntu (own partition) then i replaced ubuntu with xubuntu and grub2. xubuntu is fine by i cant boot xp or puppy even though xp is listed on grub2. xp fails with a flashing cursor so i assume the chainloader aint picking it up. i have no xp disk and no cd drive.
[16:15] <netyire> hi everyone, I added too much salt to an opossum and it dried out :-( Is there anything I can do about it?
[16:15] <Sivik> ed__: try a grub re-install
[16:15] <netyire> oh, I thought it was me
[16:15] <Rory> pratz: Looks like you have a lot of PPAs. Can you please pastebin the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[16:15] <Rory> pratz: One of the PPAs has some versions of those vim packages which is causing problems
[16:16] <ed__> sivik: yep i tried that from cli
[16:16] <Sivik> then it sounds like its an issue with windows
[16:16] <Sivik> If it won't load and linux loads fine
[16:16] <elliotd123> I have an HP pavilion dv7 laptop, and Ubuntu boots to a black screen (For some reason sets the brightness to 0 by default or something). I've had the problem for a while, and it's just an annoyance because I can use the keyboard brightness buttons to fix it. Any ideas?
[16:17] <ed__> Sivik: yep it is, but i want to get grub2 to pick up grub4dos so i can boot xp and puppy from there.
[16:17] <lostmymind> tzvi thank you. This looks to be about what I was looking for. Can it also format just a single partition, then restore from a previous back-up?
[16:18] <Sivik> ed__ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1668939
[16:18] <Rory> elliotd123: There's a few options here for setting the default brightness level http://askubuntu.com/a/232668/62969
[16:18] <tzvi> lostmymind: yes
[16:18] <pratz> Rory: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7323377/
[16:20] <lostmymind> tzvi what's the difference between stable releases and alternate stable releases?
[16:20] <ed__> thanks, ill try that
[16:20] <Sivik> yw
[16:20] <Sivik> any thoughts on why my xorg.conf would look different after a reboot?
[16:21] <tzvi> lostmymind: not sure
[16:21] <elliotd123> thanks Rory, I'll try that script I think.
[16:23] <Sivik> also, what is the art of restarting x without a full reboot/
[16:23] <Sivik> ctrl-shift-backspace no longer works.
[16:24] <netyire> Sivik: sudo restart lightdm
[16:24] <salsero|2> Sivik: sudo service kdm restart
[16:25] <netyire> Sivik: alternatively, right alt + printscreen + k
[16:25] <Sivik> right alt + printscreen +k doesn't work
[16:25] <netyire> Sivik: correction, sudo service lightdm restart
[16:25] <Sivik> netyire: thats if i'm running lightdm
[16:25] <Sivik> and service kdm restart doesn't do crap if i'm running kdm
[16:25] <pratz> Rory: ?
[16:26] <Rory> Sorry, I have to leave
[16:26] <pratz> Rory: ya cool, no worries
[16:26] <netyire> Sivik: you aren't running lightdm or kdm?
[16:27] <netyire> Sivik: sudo service gdm restart :-D
[16:27] <netyire> Sivik: or sudo pkill X but your computer will think you are rude
[16:27] <Sivik> I don't think my computer has feelings so thats not an issue
[16:28] <Sivik> Epic fail, I just tried restarted gdm and it gave a programming error
[16:29] <netyire> Sivik: did the error message include anything helpful? also, computers have feelings too!
[16:29] <Sivik> etc/init.d/gdm: 79: /etc/init.d/gdm: Syntax error: "fi" unexpected (expecting "}")
[16:32] <Oggy> hai is there a computer gaming channel on freenode
[16:32] <Oggy> :]
[16:32] <Beldar> !alis | Oggy
[16:35] <cpined> hello I have Ubuntu 14.04....I'm able to watch YouTube videos in Firefox, but when I click on the YouTube icon in Dash I'm not able to watch the same videos.  I get the error message that I need the latest flash plugin.
[16:39] <netyire> Sivik: there isn't much on google about this, someone tried to file it as a bug but it was marked as invalid. I believe it's only a general error message because the process did not end cleanly. Do not worry overly about it, but please come back if this freezes are a recurrent problem!
[16:44] <AlienPenguin> hi all, what is the best way to change the default xsession for all users on 14.04? in the lightdm.conf the user-session (or SeatDefault block actually) is not there anymore
[16:44] <Guest11813>      /quit
[16:48] <erry> i keep being asked to give evolution/gnome my password for google calendar, even if i give the correct one and tell it to keep it in the keyring
[16:52] <CPJoshCP> hi
[16:52] <tzvi> hi CPJoshCP
[16:52] <CPJoshCP> So...
[16:53] <tzvi> take your time :-)
[16:53] <CPJoshCP> lol
[16:54] <tzvi> lol
[16:57] <Andril> hello all
[16:58] <Andril> is there a way to get open as root on 14.04?
[16:58] <davido_> 14.04 has regressed to a problem that existed with early versions of 13.10, and was later corrected (either on purpose or just incidentally): On waking up from sleep, sometimes my laptop's wifi fails to restart.
[16:58] <tzvi> Andril: can you explain your question?
[16:59] <tzvi> do you mean login as root?
[16:59] <davido_> A second (new) problem, also with my laptop is that the lock/welcome screen sometimes has no mouse pointer available.
[16:59] <Andril> to open and add files to  /usr/share/ you need to be root
[17:00] <tzvi> Andril: are using command line or GUI?
[17:00] <Andril> gui
[17:01] <tzvi> you should be able to open it using gksu
[17:01] <tzvi> meaning you press alt+f2
[17:06] <tzvi> can someone please remind what is the current default file manager?
[17:06] <hydruid> tzvi: nautilus
[17:06] <tzvi> thanks
[17:11] <AlienPenguin> i am trying xfce4, but in terminal the completion seems not to be working... any ideas?
[17:13] <gmachine_24> greetings, earthlings. :-) I have a 2TB drive that I want to scan for problems - it is an ntfs drive, but I am checking for physical problems .... is it best to boot from a standard Ubuntu install disk and then run command line checks or is there an Ubuntu version built for this kind of thing... or another Linux disc/release you'd recommend?
[17:14] <Beldar> gmachine_24, problems like?
[17:14] <Aaruni> how to change default location of screenshot in trusty? I did it in precise from some config app, but I can't recall right now.
[17:14] <gmachine_24> Beldar, if sectors are dead/dying
[17:14] <Beldar> gmachine_24, Ubuntu has a smartdisc check on the live and install in disks
[17:15] <Beldar> gmachine_24, disks-top right corner dropdown
[17:15] <gmachine_24> Beldar, really? ... hmmm..... this I didn't know..... I've always used some command line utility
[17:16] <gmachine_24> Beldar, anyway, thanks. I'll look into that.
[17:16] <Beldar> gmachine_24, Sure, there are a number of tools, that is the one I have used most often, but I have never had a failing HD is all.
[17:17] <gmachine_24> Beldar, yeah, I don't know if it's failing. I tried spinrite but it .... failed.... somewhere.....
[17:17] <Beldar> gmachine_24, Being ntfs I wonder if they need chkdsks or fragging is all
[17:17] <Beldar> defragging*
[17:18] <manalasta> Does anyone know how to change wallpaper behind the cube on Ubuntu 12.04? Thanks for the answer.
[17:18] <gmachine_24> Beldar, I'm kind of doing overkill; I ran chkdisk on the drive and it was OK - but it makes funny noises
[17:18] <netyire> Beldar: it will become fragmented over time, if it isn't cleanly unmounted it may also require chkdsk via windows (linux will only mark the partition as 'dirty', *shivers*!)
[17:19] <Beldar> netyire, anything is possible yes.
[17:19] <netyire> Beldar: anything is possible ! :-)
[17:19] <gmachine_24> to be safe I should just xfer the data to a new drive and farm this one out for .... whatever
[17:20] <netyire> gmachine_24: I suspect the drive is aging, you can check it's health via the inbuilt disks tool
[17:20] <gmachine_24> netyire, yes, except it's practically new and I don't return drives for a refurbished version as I think that's just a waste of time/money
[17:21] <belak_> Is it possible to add and remove dash apps?
[17:21] <clue_h> you can disable them
[17:21] <netyire> gmachine_24: unfortunately, even that isn't a definitive indicator. If you happen to have a spare drive, I recommend backing it up soon!
[17:21] <Beldar> gmachine_24, I have 2 2tb externals one is a backup of the other, both have all OS cloned and all backups, just prepared for anything here. ;)
[17:21] <netyire> gmachine_24: money aside, some memories are non-replaceable! think wedding photos!
[17:22] <gmachine_24> I threw my wedding photos into the lake outside my home; I know, off-topic
[17:22] <musshan> hello people :)
[17:22] <Beldar> lol, now we want to know why, ;)
[17:22] <netyire> gmachine_24: this, this is new! also, off-topic :-)
[17:22] <netyire> musshan: hi there musshan :-) welcome to #ubuntu! how can we help you today?
[17:23] <netyire> gmachine_24: come to #ubuntu-offtopic and tell us why you threw away your wedding photos!
[17:23] <musshan> i am relatively new to ubuntu and i want to know if openchrome is installed in my system or not. how to find this out?
[17:23] <musshan> hi netyire
[17:23] <netyire> !openchrome
[17:24] <musshan> netyire can you help me with my question?
[17:24] <netyire> !info openchrome
[17:24] <Beldar> !info openchrome
[17:24] <holstein> musshan: the openchrome drivers should just be the latest available to the kernel
[17:24] <musshan> holstein: hi. so you mean they must be automatically installed?
[17:24] <gmachine_24> I have a media server which doesn't really do much and attached to that are data back up drives .... so pretty much everything is backed up 3x - using usb removable 1tb drives for the ultimate back up of moving it off-site; my bank thinks I'm a little weird because of my safety deposit box visits but who cares
[17:25] <holstein> musshan: not really.. they are just included in the modular kernel
[17:25] <netyire> musshan: I am not familiar with that, but you can run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-openchrome just to be sure
[17:25] <musshan> holstein: thanks i will try that and get back now.
[17:26] <hydruid> gmachine_24: that is not a bad idea since usually banks handle natural disasters well
[17:26] <musshan> netyire: thanks i will try that and get back now
[17:26] <hydruid> gmachine_24: aren't those safety deposit boxes water proof?
[17:27] <netyire> musshan: np :-)
[17:28] <musshan> netyire: it says openchrome already the newest version
[17:29] <netyire> musshan: I believe that answers your question! Feel free to visit #ubuntu-offtopic and chat with us if you have no other questions!
[17:29] <musshan> netyire: actually my problem is my ubuntu installation is using 100% CPU and compiz is using so much CPU. in launchpad they thought my system was running software rendering and the correct driver is not installedfor my hardware
[17:30] <inoxus> hello everyone, I'm getting the error that my package system is broken with the following command line: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7322906/ . running install -f returned this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7322918/ . I've been having this mysql errors at every update-upgrade for a while. this time with the last update I got this system tray warning that I needed to run package manager. which didnt fix it as seen from pastes.
[17:30] <musshan> netyire: my mother board is ASUS A8V-MX 939 VIA K8M800 Micro ATX AMD
[17:30] <holstein> musshan: there many not be a "correct" driver.
[17:30] <Tempest> ciao a tutti
[17:30] <netyire> musshan: there are two solutions to consider (1) installing the correct driver and (2) disabling compiz, which would you like to do today?
[17:30] <holstein> musshan: the chrome hardware i have, i just dont use much, and i dont use with 3d desktops
[17:31] <Beldar> inoxus, This a server with a desktop?
[17:31] <musshan> netyire: could you help me install correct driver?
[17:31] <holstein> musshan: i just took it as a learning experience, and dont get VIA graphics anymore.. it'll be easy for you to add a graphics card to a desktop.. and quite an upgrade, and fix *many* issues without much investment
[17:32] <netyire> musshan: sure! :-) do you know which graphic card you're using?
[17:32] <holstein> musshan: there are likely *not* better drivers
[17:32] <musshan> netyire: my onboard graphics card is : S3 Graphics UniChrome Pro IGP
[17:32] <holstein> musshan: as i said, for my via hardware, the open ones are the "Best" and i dont use 3d with it
[17:32] <netyire> musshan: I am not familiar with that, hold on while I google it
[17:33] <musshan> holstien: yes feeling bad about it. i wont purchase that anymore. how to run without 3d?
[17:33] <ovnicraft> hello i am bootin ubuntu in my mac so i ma wokring with 14.04 but display dont show me anything, mac sounds like everything is booting but display not works
[17:33] <holstein> musshan: you should replace the hardware if you want 3d in linux
[17:33] <alypasz> hello everyone, I'm getting the error that my package system is broken with the following command line: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7322906/ . running install -f returned this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7322918/ . I've been having this mysql errors at every update-upgrade for a while. this time with the last update I got this system tray warning that I needed to run package manager. which didnt fix it as seen from pastes.
[17:33] <musshan> netyire: thanks
[17:33] <ovnicraft> how i can change driver or resolution in grub before bootign ?
[17:33] <holstein> musshan: just use it.. with something that doesnt require 3d.. like xfce.. lxde
[17:34] <belgianguy> anyone running the latest AMD fglrx on 14.04?
[17:34] <musshan> holstien: i have installed bodhi linux repository which uses enlightment DE. it is better with this. but still laggy for enlightment
[17:34] <belgianguy> 14.3 didn't succeed in building the kernel modules and gave me a black screen during install
[17:34] <netyire> musshan: there appears to be limited support with this, and only with the vesa drivers
[17:35] <musshan> netyire: oops. so how to disable compiz and what effect will it have?
[17:35] <skinux> When Filelight shows small files, how do we know where those files are located? Hovering over sections of small files it doesn't show directory.
[17:35] <musshan> netyire: actually i like the unity 2d with the previous 12.04. so i dont need 3d and all. i just want a workable desktop
[17:36] <netyire> musshan: you will lose the all important special graphic effects! you can disable it temporarily by running metacity --replace in a terminal to see how it looks
[17:37] <musshan> netyire: right now i am running enlightment in bodhi linux. so how should i do it?
[17:37] <alypasz> can help me, no?
[17:38] <Beldar> musshan, So is this Bodhi you are working on here?
[17:38] <netyire> musshan: Main Menu>Settings>All>Look>Compositing has an option for disabling compositing!
[17:38] <alypasz> hello everyone, I'm getting the error that my package system is broken with the following command line: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7322906/ . running install -f returned this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7322918/ . I've been having this mysql errors at every update-upgrade for a while. this time with the last update I got this system tray warning that I needed to run package manager. which didnt fix it as seen from pastes.
[17:39] <musshan> beldar: no i have bodhi package on top of ubuntu, because unity was unusable because of my problem
[17:39] <Seveas> alypasz: get rid of all the mariadb packages and try again
[17:40] <musshan> netyire: i will try that and get back tomo. its late here gtg. thank you very much for helping
[17:40] <alypasz> Seveas, try what? install -f?
[17:40] <netyire> musshan: I approve of this user! <3
[17:40] <minttu> I can't find any direct download link for blackubuntu x86, the torrentsites are down =(
[17:41] <Seveas> alypasz: yeah
[17:41] <holstein> musshan: try using ubuntu
[17:41] <holstein> musshan: you can download and try xubuntu live, with no 3d and the latest openchrome driver
[17:42] <Beldar> minttu, bummer, this is ubuntu support though, not derivatives. Try kali they have a channel
[17:42] <musshan> holstein: i will definitly try xubuntu. by the way is there big performace diff between xubuntu and lubuntu?
[17:42] <minttu> Kali ?
[17:42] <holstein> musshan: your hardware is what it is.. you can only try to use less resources
[17:43] <holstein> !kali
[17:43] <netyire> alypasz: there are specific steps available here http://askubuntu.com/questions/218418/dependency-problem-with-mysql-server-core-5-5
[17:43] <musshan> holstien: okay will try it and get back tomo. thanks for helping.
[17:43] <alypasz> Seveas, removing now
[17:43] <alypasz> netyire, looks very relevant, thank you!!
[17:44] <netyire> alypasz: :-P
[17:44] <Havenstance> how can i run wireshark so it doesn't have to be started with sudo permissions on 13.10? I'm storing the capture files on a network drive and it shows up in there but if i try to open it on my windows machine i get an error stating im not the owner of the file
[17:44] <Havenstance> when I run wireshark without sudo perms it wont store anything or save anything stating access denied
[17:45] <Blaster> How do you send keep alive over SSH in Ubuntu 14.04?  Do I put the ServerMaxAlive setting in ~/.ssh/ssh_config
[17:45] <alypasz> Seveas, very interesting, as soon as I removed mariaDB related packages, the warning on system tray disappeared
[17:47] <holstein> Havenstance: i read the documenation that came up when running the software
[17:48] <holstein> Havenstance: http://ask.wireshark.org/questions/7976/wireshark-setup-linux-for-nonroot-user for example.. though, you may want to try a security channel, or general linux channel
[17:49] <Havenstance> this should suffice, but now im thinking its more of a permission issue with the network shares
[17:49] <Havenstance> I can put anything on it from the local machine and when i try to access it on a client i get permission denied
[17:52] <trism> Havenstance_: it is documented in /usr/share/doc/wireshark-common/README.Debian but basically you just: sudo dpkg-reconfigure wireshark-common; switch the config, add yourself to the wireshark group and log out/back in
[17:52] <Guest12825> hello any dev to adress a posible bug in upgrading kernels in ubuntu ?
[17:53] <munzmania> hi! awesome community! .. i have installed ubuntu 14.4 on my macbook air 2013 and every thing works perfectly except for the camera ... when i start the cam app "cheese web cam booth" i get "no device have been found" , any idea how to slove this?
[17:53] <Beldar> !justask > Guest12825
[17:54] <munzmania> hi! awesome community! .. i have installed ubuntu 14.4 on my macbook air 2013 and every thing works perfectly except for the camera ... when i start the cam app "cheese web cam booth" i get "no device have been found" , any idea how to slove this?
[17:54] <netyire> munzmania: welcome to #ubuntu, hold on while our dedicated tech support staff (me) googles your request!
[17:54] <skinux> Well, I've 1G disk available, only 50% inodes used, but apt-get still says no disk space available.
 : lolz ok sure
[17:55] <Guest12825> Beldar i want to upgrade my kernels and i think its something wrong with ubuntu... im using 13.10 and want to update to 14.04
[17:55] <aysorth> skinux: df -h ?
[17:56] <woshty> How do I tell light-locker to not do a dpms off if I call light-locker-command --lock?
[17:56] <Beldar> Guest12825, Probably not anything I can help with, but the key here for help is details. ;)
[17:57] <netyire> munzmania: I'm sorry dear user, but Ubuntu does not currently support your camera https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir6-2/Saucy
[17:58] <Guest12825> well im looking for dev because i cant upgrade because it says not enough room in /boot ( i like to have two kernels the new one and a safe one, older one and known to work
 : thanks for your help but they should informed us before we install it!!!
[17:59] <netyire> munzmania: I understand your frustration and apologize again that Ubuntu does not support this feature. However if you add any of the many listed webcams (http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/) to your amazon wishlist in the next 10 minutes, I will personally purchase it for you.
[17:59] <skinux> Did you get my df -h post?
 : thanks man , i do appreciate your help but thats not your fault , thanks again!
[18:01] <netyire> munzmania: it's a serious offer <3, you still have 9 minutes
[18:02] <technodict> hello guys i want to create a launcher for running a python script how do i go about it ?
[18:03] <netyire> technodict: are you running gnome, kde, enlightenment, or Windows? :-)
 : i know it's a serious offer :) thanks that's nice of you
[18:03] <Guest12825> i fany dev with kernels and booting would be great....
[18:03] <monkwitdafunk> Startup script or event driven?
[18:03] <technodict> ubuntu
[18:03] <Beldar> Guest12825, Ah, you need to remove kernels from the boot kernel. Can be done from the command line, generally I use ubuntu-tweak the janitor function to remove kernels.
[18:03] <netyire> munzmania: :-)
[18:03] <Beldar> *boot partition
[18:04] <clue_h> technodict, you can create a .desktop file with the exec line pointing to the script in /usr/local/share/applications to be safe
[18:04] <technodict> ususlly to run the .sh script i hv to cd into the drive and run ./script.sh
[18:04] <netyire> technodict: right click on the desktop -> add shortcut -> python <path/to/script.py>
[18:04] <Guest12825> Beldar i think the problem is deeper.. because using suse, opensuse and fedora... i have enough space for thre kernels and in ubuntu i just have enough space for two... and no always...
[18:04] <technodict> ok ill try it
[18:05] <technodict> dint have create shortcut on the menu
[18:05] <holstein> Guest12825: you can resize partitions
[18:05] <technodict> dont*
[18:05] <Guest12825> Beldar: manually i can install first the kernel and in second instance the headers and everything goes fine
[18:05] <netyire> technodict: ubuntu calls it a launcher in gnome
[18:06] <technodict> i hv unity not the pure gnome
[18:06] <Beldar> Guest12825, If you are using a boot partition that is the issue.
[18:06] <Guest12825> holstein: if i resize partiitions i have to format....and i dont like the idea...
[18:06] <holstein> Guest12825: you shouldnt
[18:06] <holstein> Guest12825: you shoudl be able to resize using gparted from a live CD
[18:07] <Guest12825> holstein: i can resize partiitons without formatting ?? Can i use gparted from the system or it has to be from live cd ?
[18:07] <holstein> Guest12825: as i suggested above, the live CD
[18:08] <Guest12825> holstein if i do it from system then ive to format no ?
[18:08] <holstein> Guest12825: i would have *all* important data backed up
[18:08] <holstein> Guest12825: as i said, you *should* *not* need to format.. only resize from a live CD, after backing up important information
[18:08] <Guest12825> Beldar: i think its a bug of ubuntu because in many distributions worked fine
[18:08] <netyire> technodict: I'm sorry, see this youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSU9YuE_36w
[18:08] <OsBinAs> got problem to install tor browser bundel on ubuntu 14.10
[18:08] <holstein> Guest12825: i dont think its a bug to have the partition too small..
[18:09] <UrielVigilant> why some lubuntu users are complaining Why bcm 4311 dont work with 14.04, after purge Sta and install b43 driver? Because we need to install wifi applet manually .
[18:09] <Jordan_U> Guest12825: I would personally recommend just not using a separate /boot/ partition. Why do you have a separate /boot/ partition?
[18:09] <holstein> oodavid: please use 14.04.. 14.10 is not released
[18:09] <holstein> !tor ? OsBinAs
[18:09] <holstein> oodavid: sorry
[18:10] <holstein> OsBinAs: ^
[18:10] <holstein> !tor > OsBinAs
[18:10] <Guest12825> Holstein : the problem my /boot is 94 mb and with fedora, suse and opensuse it has enough space for three kernels
[18:10] <holstein> Guest12825: ok.. make it larger for ubuntu, or use the default partitioning.. file a bug if you think its a bug
[18:11] <technodict> ok
[18:11] <Guest56308> ok.
[18:11] <Guest56308> ola
[18:11] <Guest12825> and in ubuntu only two and not always...i have to manually delete to make room, the problem is that uses a lot of space temporally....because after the proces finishes it leaves 2
[18:12] <dtcrshr> what would be the best folder to put a file public to all users on the ubuntu
[18:12] <Jordan_U> Guest12825: Why do you have a separate /boot/ partition?
[18:12] <holstein> Guest12825: cool.. try the official mini isos
[18:12] <holstein> !mini | Guest12825
[18:12] <Guest12825> 25 mb of free memory...is  what i have know
[18:12] <Beldar> Guest12825, Without any details that seems like an assumption is all, linking similar problems between releases, you have to ask your self what is the key variable, uh......it's you. ;) Looks like your getting great help though.
[18:12] <saiarcot895> dtcrshr: Do you have a folder called Public in your home directory?
[18:13] <flor_> hola
[18:13] <rvdv> hoi
[18:13] <dtcrshr> saiarcot895: no
[18:13] <dtcrshr> Well, I could simply create a folder with full permissions anywhere, im wondering if there is such a place as default
[18:14] <saiarcot895> dtcrshr: Strange. I have it, but I'm not entirely sure if Ubuntu created it.
[18:14] <saiarcot895> dtcrshr: as far as I know, no
[18:14] <Guest12825> for example... regular update kernels.. i cant update with system updater...it says no room enough in /boot... but if i install them in two steps: first kernel, then headers... then no problem of sapce
[18:14] <dtcrshr> well, i think no. Its a fresh install
[18:14] <dtcrshr> im replying a script so I have to use an ambiente that the other ubuntu machines should /would have
[18:14] <holstein> Guest12825: make the boot larger, friend.. if its too small
[18:14] <Jordan_U> Guest12825: Are you seeing my messages to you?
[18:15] <Beldar> Guest12825, Having a boot partition is not needed, and rarely used anymore except in specific circumstances.
[18:15] <louiemat> where is the elementary OS channel?
[18:15] <jorbas> Any ideas on how well 14.04 will run on an Intel Atom N450 with 1GB RAM? I've got it running off a live USB right now and the perofrmace is pretty terrible, but I think it's just down to it being bottlenecked by the USB.
[18:15] <wad> On one Ubuntu box, I installed shellinabox via the "Ubuntu Software Center". Then I attempted to install it on a remove machine via apt-get, and it can't find it. /etc/apt/sources.list is different. How can I tell which source has this program?
[18:15] <wad> I think I just need to add it to the remote machine.
[18:15] <holstein> jorbas: i would want xubuntu or lubuntu on those specs. but try them all live.. they are all ubuntu at the core
[18:15] <saiarcot895> jorbas: try Lubuntu
[18:15] <Beldar> Jordan_U, Heh, I missed you were responding to the user, carry on. ;)
[18:15] <Guest12825> space and i ve 25mb of free space of 95 mb.... so i guess is something in the update process that ubuntu does wrong... as i told before in other distributions doenst happen....
[18:16] <holstein> louiemat: http://elementaryos.org/support
[18:16] <belgianguy> anyone running the latest AMD fglrx on 14.04?
[18:16] <holstein> Guest12825: file a bug if you feel its a problem.. i dont use seperate boot to confirm the issue
[18:17] <Beldar> !ask > belgianguy
[18:17] <jorbas> Lubuntu vs Xubuntu, which do you think is "lighter"?
[18:17] <holstein> Guest12825: otherwise, try making the partition larger to avoid the message about it being too small
[18:17] <NoFeaR> Xubuntu
[18:17] <belgianguy> Beldar: thanks, but I'm really interested in hearing if someone succeeded in installing it, as it failed for me with 14.3
[18:18] <jorbas> Alright, I'll give that a go first
[18:18] <belgianguy> now there's 14.4, and I'm not very interested in spending more time in root shell :)
[18:18] <NoFeaR> oke then
[18:18] <Beldar> belgianguy, This is support, not polling is all.
[18:18] <Guest12825> well id have to go out to enter in live cd ;)
[18:19] <suigeneris> hi again all
[18:19] <belgianguy> I want to run 14.4 AMD fglrx on Trusty Tahr, and I can't do it
[18:19] <suigeneris> Rory: are you there?
[18:19] <belgianguy> what should I do?
[18:20] <alypasz> netyire, Seveas, thank you for your help! I guess it is fixed now.
[18:20] <netyire> alypasz: may the spirit of Ubuntu forever guide *your* journey! :-) also, visit #ubuntu-offtopic and chat with us some time
[18:21] <unicron> why can't i sudo echo foo >> file_owned_by_root
[18:21] <suigeneris> okay, let me describe my issue again
[18:21] <alypasz> netyire, thank you, I will :)
[18:23] <suigeneris> I started upgrading my laptop, and I left it alone. I don't remember if it got completed because it wasn't plugged in. now, it won't boot into ubuntu. what can I do? I'm on LiveCD at the moment
[18:23] <Pici> unicron: because your environment doesn't pass IO redirection operators.  You need to do echo foo | sudo tee -a file_owned_by_root
[18:23] <OsBinAs> people how to clean rubish in ubuntu?
[18:23] <OsBinAs> :)
[18:24] <IdleOne> !trash
[18:24] <Beldar> suigeneris, What happens if you boot the install? Was it plugged in?
[18:24] <OsBinAs> log files and etch
[18:24] <suigeneris> Beldar: I get past GRUB and that's it
[18:24] <rouj> Hi :)
[18:24] <IdleOne> OsBinAs: rm -rf /var/log/*
[18:25] <Beldar> suigeneris, Details are important, " and that's it" says nothing. ;)
[18:25] <Guest12825> which live cd to use ? 14.04 or 13.10 ??
[18:25] <suigeneris> Beldar: it't a blank screen with cursor blinking upper right side
[18:25] <Guest12825> can i run the iso from my system ??
[18:25] <suigeneris> left side*
[18:26] <Beldar> !nomodeset | suigeneris try this.
 maby some "super buper" cleaner that opertaing system got(safe to use)? :D
[18:26] <Beldar> suigeneris, Some graphic drivers do not follow release upgrades, is my guess of your issue.
[18:27] <demonknight> hi, testing empathy
[18:27] <IdleOne> OsBinAs: there is no such "safe" application. you can delete /var/log/ and you can use the Software Centre to remove old installed kernels.
[18:27] <pratz> Hello I am getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7324260/
[18:27] <ankov> neglesaks (
[18:27] <Havenstance> is there a command for listing all user groups? I don't want the groups the current user is a member of I want to list all the groups on the machine
[18:27] <Beldar> OsBinAs, I use bleachbit, gotta be careful though, if you add additional cleaning.
[18:27] <hydruid>  demonknight: Empathy has caused you a fatal error
[18:27] <hydruid> lol
[18:27] <demonknight> nice
[18:28] <Pici> Havenstance: look at /etc/group or getent group
[18:28] <IdleOne> OsBinAs: Be aware that bleachbit is very powerful and can easily destroy your install. Be very careful with it.
[18:29] <tobi_> Hi I'm running this command:
[18:29] <tobi_> mencoder -idx -nosound -noskip -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mjpeg -o output.avi -mf fps=15 'mf://@files.txt'
[18:29] <saiarcot895> OsBinAs: Ubuntu Tweak also has a cleaner available, but use it with caution
[18:29] <Beldar> IdleOne, Heh, fair warning. ;)
[18:29] <tobi_> And I get this error:
[18:29] <tobi_> http://pastebin.com/pTjy3kkf
[18:29] <tobi_> I have this error since I have updated to the latest version of Ubuntu
[18:30] <tobi_> is there something missing?
[18:30] <suigeneris> Beldar: is Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller one of them?
[18:30] <OsBinAs> what i mean lads i shiting to use thous :D
[18:30] <demonknight> i was trying to d/l & install virtualbox on laptop via ubuntu dash app lens. I get http 404 errors when trying to d/l packages. is this the right room to discuss, or is there a better room?
[18:31] <Beldar> suigeneris, In general intel should just work, I think, have you tried the nomodeset boot?
[18:31] <suigeneris> brb, still reading it
[18:31] <Beldar> suigeneris, If you tap the esc in the boot it goes to text and you can see where it stops, and any info there.
[18:32] <suigeneris> right
[18:33] <streulma> what the ..., installed nvidia-331-updates on 14.04 and it works out of the box the video driver, without optimus, it's an older card, but runs much better then the older drivers.
[18:34] <unicron> pici: thx, that works :)
[18:35] <RPG-Master> I don't know why, but since I messed with the keyboard shortcut for changing my volume, now when I changed it back to just using my media keys, it just does nothing.
[18:35] <wad> how can I figure out what to add to /etc/apt/sources.list in order to be able to install shellinabox?
[18:36] <tharkun> Good $date, BrowsePoll no longer works on cups 1.7.2 Is there a workaround for that?
[18:36] <endo> While installing Ubuntu, during the "Installation type" window, if I select the "Erase disk and install Ubuntu" option instead of "Encrypt blah blah", will I still be able to use ecryptfs for my /home?
[18:37] <endo> streulma: But are you able to switch between integrated and nvidia without issue?
[18:37] <skinux> Here is my df -i and df -h results: http://paste.pm/g6j.js
[18:37] <Beldar> suigeneris, In this situation, not knowing if the upgrade finished I'm just seeing if we can get a desktop or cli to check this.
[18:38] <newbie|3> hey there, i just installed the latest java sdk, but i don't know where it has been installed on my computer. I need to know it because i need to acces the java control panel in order to activate java in my browser, does anyone have an idea about where i could look?
[18:39] <JRThump> Hi, I have a question. In 14.04 (server), where did /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules go? In 12.04 it used to persist the different NIC mac addresses there to map to different logical names (eth0, eth1, ...). Does anybody know?
[18:40] <demonknight> find / -name java
[18:40] <demonknight> @newbie|3   find / -name java
[18:40] <suigeneris> !chroot
[18:40] <michaelaguiar> Can someone give me a hand with some basic networking?
[18:41] <newbie|3> i just found out that i needed to select always activate in the firefox plugins instead of activate on demand, man this is a real mess, all the time i have squandered in order to be able to activate this! thanks anyway
[18:42] <hydruid> michaelaguiar: sure in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:42] <michaelaguiar> I have 2 servers.  One of them has a modem connected to it, and is connected to a switch, works great.  Then I have another server that is just connected to the switch, which should be used for VPN (pptpd).  The VPN server has a LAN network interface setup with the local Ip.  How can I set it up so that I can access it from the outside for VPN?
[18:42] <belgianguy> I need tips on installing 14.4 AMD fglrx on Trusty Tahr
[18:42] <bazhang> michaelaguiar, try in ##networking
[18:42] <wad> So my VPS has this line in /etc/apt/souces.list: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main restricted universe
[18:42] <wad> What does "restricted" mean in here?
[18:43] <wad> Does it mean that some packages are not available? Why would it have "restricted"?
[18:43] <wad> If I remove "restricted", can I install packages that aren't currently available?
[18:43] <wad> Will Bad Things happen to my VPS if I do that?
[18:43] <Pici> wad: it contains non-free software.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories#Restricted
[18:44] <nowayride> It means software that's not on a free license
[18:44] <wad> Ah!
[18:44] <skinux> I think restricted means stuff that isn't under free licensing.
[18:44] <lord4163> Why has the apache webserver root been moved to /var/www/html?
[18:44] <Jordan_U> wad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[18:44] <wad> Okay, so I can just remove "restricted" from those lines, and then it will let me install the stuff I want?
[18:44]  * wad tries that link
[18:44] <Pici> wad: no, the release pocket is called 'restricted'.  Thats the name of it.
[18:45] <wad> I think I need to read some docs. Never heard of a "release pocket".
[18:45] <clue_h> its supported by canonical
[18:45] <JRThump> I'm trying to setup a 14.04 server as a virtualbox guest. As soon as I add more than 1 network interface it starts to act up!
[18:45] <RPG-Master> Anyone know what could be wrong with my volume keys?
[18:45] <suigeneris> brb, rebooting
[18:45] <skinux> Oh...if apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade are not supported methods of upgrade, then what is?
[18:46] <aksharma> hi
[18:46] <JRThump> its like 14.04 get wrong information from virtualbox or something. anyone had any similar experiences with the new 14.04
[18:46] <Beldar> skinux, release upgrade?
[18:47] <dan00b2> hello
[18:47] <Pici> skinux: to upgrade to the next release?  or just to upgrade within the release?
[18:47] <skinux> I've been working on upgrade to Trusty
[18:47] <hydruid> JRThump: define act up?
[18:47] <Beldar> skinux, From what release?
[18:47] <dan00b2> does anyone know how to resize the panel in 1404
[18:47] <dan00b2> ?
[18:48] <hydruid> dan00b2: the unity one on the left? Yes.....Settings -> Appearance
[18:48] <Beldar> dan00b2, Left panel unity?
[18:48] <skinux> Whatever would have been downloaded yesterday.
[18:48] <Beldar> !who | skinux
[18:49] <clue_h> dan00b2, settings appearence , bottom right slider for launcher, not sure about top panel
[18:49] <clue_h> appearance*
[18:49] <skinux> Beldar: I downloaded all Trusty files yesterday, since then I've had problems with low or no disk space. I've already run apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean.
[18:49] <dan00b2> yea trying to do panel
[18:49] <trism> hydruid: that option has been gone for several releases, though it is still in ccsm
[18:49] <dan00b2> launcher good already
[18:50] <skinux> Beldar: I have to boot using previous kernel otherwise i end up with BusyBox shell.
[18:50] <endo> ';l
[18:50] <endo> ';l
[18:50] <endo> ';l
[18:50] <endo> ';l
[18:50] <hydruid> trism: what setting? You can go to System Settings -> Apperance -> and adjust the size of the unity bar
[18:50] <endo> I am sorry.
[18:50] <Beldar> skinux, I can't understand you.
[18:50] <hydruid> dan00b2: I'm not sure if you can
[18:50] <cphil> @tth comment je te xchat, ma chatte ?
[18:51] <trism> hydruid: that is not the size, that is the reveal sensitivity, the bar for the size is gone
[18:51] <Pici> !fr | cphil
[18:51] <hydruid> trism: to be technical that option controls the "Launcher Icon Size" which changes the size of the bar.....
[18:52] <skinux> Beldar: apt-get upgrade & dist-upgrade; Downloaded all files, installation halted due to no disk space; ran apt-get clean & autoclean, problem not solved.
[18:52] <trism> hydruid: again, it is not there anymore
[18:52] <hydruid> trism: I'm running 14.04 and it's most certainly there
[18:52] <trism> hydruid: screenshot? I am looking right at it on two systems
[18:53] <Beldar> skinux, You have mixed info together and not answered questions, we are not communicating, maybe you will do better with another helper. ;)
[18:53] <trism> hydruid: oh nm I am an idiot
[18:53] <JRThump> hydruid: Using one NIC in NAT mode with DHCP it becomes eth0 and gets 10.0.2.x address (correct) and can access the outside world. However when I add a second NIC (host only networking) I get various problems. Both NICs get 192.168.56.x addresses which is weird, since eth0 should still get 10.0.2.x in my opinion (i didnt change mode on that). I am confused since server guide for 14.04 states that there should be a file "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.ru
[18:53] <JRThump> les", but there isn't. Also (probably due to the network cards getting wrong addresses) I can no longer access outside world.
[18:53] <trism> hydruid: I found it
[18:53] <hydruid> trism: ;)
[18:53] <tharkun> ikonia: Cups 1.7.2 breaks BrowsePoll so far I'm unable to make a print across subnets. If you have any ideas please ping me
[18:53] <skinux> Beldar: Specifically, what questions have I not answered?
[18:53] <hydruid> JRThump: did you install the VM tools?
[18:54] <hydruid> JRThump: what did you set the dhcp server for on the HOSTONLY adapter?
[18:54] <suigeneris> Beldar: didn't work
[18:54] <hydruid> JRThump: did you setup a DHCP server on the Server VM?
[18:56] <maujhsn> SASL: added audacity: [PLAIN] maujhsn *
[18:56] <JRThump> hydruid: I did not install the VM tools, why should they be needed in a simple server without any graphics?  The HOSTONLY adapter is supposed to use static address in the 192.168.56.0/24 subnet (this is my plan to have an ip address I can always connect to the machine with).
[18:57] <wad> Hmm. How can I figure out which repository or repository component I need to add in order to have access to the package shellinabox?
[18:57] <hydruid> JRThump: by default the first HOSTONLY network setups a DHCP server for it......did you check that? Also is the Server VM a DHCP server as well?
[18:58] <hydruid> JRThump: did you configure /etc/network/interfaces with both eth0/1 as dhcp or static?
[18:58] <skinux> Okay, here are the actions I performed leading to the problem I'm having: http://paste.pm/g6k.js
[18:58] <Beldar> suigeneris, I see you checked chroot, are you able to get to the install terminal chrooting?
[18:58] <madphoenix> Has anybody successfully configured 14.04 to authorize against Active Directory with the stock samba/winbind/kerberos packages?  I'm configuring it the same way  as I always have, but just getting "No passwd entry for user <domain user>"
[18:59] <JRThump> hydruid: I want eth0 dhcp (NAT), eth1 static (HOSTONLY). If in virtualbox I only configure the first NIC I get eth0 with dhcp and the (correct) 10.0.2.x address and can access outside world. Why is this destroyed when I setup another adapter?
[19:00] <xangua> "Changed /etc/apt/sources.list to reflect Trusty" just wrong from the beggining skinux
[19:00] <skinux> I learned that from Ubuntu official documentation
[19:00] <skinux> xangua: When did that become the wrong way?
[19:00] <JRThump> hydruid: its like the DHCP server for HOSTONLY "leaks" into the NAT adapter...?
[19:01] <suigeneris> Beldar: yes. I also edited /etc/default/grub to read GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset" and I updated grub. nothing changed
[19:01] <bekks> JRThump: which it doesnt, for sure.
[19:01] <Beldar> xangua, Thanks, that was not in my history.
[19:01] <hydruid> JRThump: so you set a static IP for eth1? what did you set it as?
[19:01] <Beldar> suigeneris, Yes you can chroot?
[19:02] <JRThump> hydruid: eth1 static address 192.168.56.11
[19:02] <suigeneris> Beldar: I can
[19:02] <Beldar> suigeneris, Did you run a update dist-upgrade yet?
[19:02] <hydruid> JRThump: what is the ip of it after: "sudo service networking restart"
[19:02] <hydruid> JRThump: and does that command throw any errors?
[19:04] <suigeneris> Beldar: if you mean do-release-upgrade, I did that yesterday, after which I can't boot
[19:04] <JRThump> hydruid: stop: Job failed while stopping start: Job is already running: networking
[19:04] <hydruid> JRThump: there you go, there is an error in your /etc/network/interfaces file
[19:04] <JRThump> hydruid: same addresses as before restart attempt
[19:05] <JRThump> hydruid: oh :-)
[19:05] <thomas_> Um, my computer seems to have a habit of identifying what should be 'program (application/x-shellscript)' files as 'shell script (application/x-shellcript) files, and so I can't run these programs. If anyone knows a way around this, could someone help me open them please?
[19:05] <Beldar> suigeneris, I mean from the chroot did you try a apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade    this will tell us if you have a broken install generally.
[19:05] <Felicia18>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://j.mp/1gAh6Jy
[19:05] <suigeneris> Beldar: nope, let me do that
[19:06] <Beldar> suigeneris, check the server calls if they are trusty.
[19:08] <jeff___> hi
[19:08] <jeff___> whats the difference between a transactional and a journaling filesystem? arent they the same?
[19:09] <belak51> Is there a good way to install IntelliJ Ultimate using debs?
[19:09] <dw1> whenever i click the "eject" button next to an FTP site in nautilus i seem to end up dragging a bookmark and have to drop it back down where it was to avoid screwing things up.  anyone else experience this and/or know a fix?
[19:09] <rww> jeff___: Transactional file systems allow you to specify that a set of operations should all be done or not be done at all (i.e., that they shouldn't be partly done).
[19:09] <suigeneris> Beldar: they are trusty
[19:10] <jeff___> rww: isnt it the same for a journaling filesystem?
[19:10] <rww> jeff___: so you could, say, put a program installation in one transaction so that either the whole installation ends up on the filesystem or none of it
[19:10] <rww> jeff___: no, journaling filesystems don't do transactions as I just described
[19:10] <jeff___> rww: you discribted transactions...
[19:11] <Beldar> suigeneris, So was this a 13.10 upgrade or a 12.04?
[19:11] <hydruid> JRThump|!Pastebin
[19:11] <hydruid> !Pastebin|JRTHump
[19:11] <rww> jeff___: I did. Transactional filesystems, unsurpringly, do transactions. Journaling ones do not.
[19:11] <jeff___> rww: what do journaling file systems?
[19:12] <bprompt> belak51:   https://launchpad.net/intellij   ?
[19:12] <s2013> !info ruby2.1
[19:12] <Su7> Hi, does anyone have an issue with the sidebar only showing the half of itself w/ autohide enabled ?
[19:12] <s2013> !info ruby2
[19:12] <s2013> !info ruby2.0
[19:12] <rww> jeff___: journaling filesystems have a journal, i.e. a set of changes that need to be made that haven't been committed to disk yet, which helps in case of power outages and such
[19:12] <suigeneris> Beldar: I got dpkg was interrupted, and I'm running that now
[19:12] <s2013> hmm
[19:12] <rww> jeff___: s/disk/the actual file system/
[19:12] <Beldar> suigeneris, Cool,
[19:13] <belak51> bprompt: looks like that hasn't been updated in 4 yeatrs
[19:13] <JRThump> got it! (pastebin) :-)
[19:13] <jeff___> rww: how does a transactional file system guarantee that all is commited or nothing?
[19:14] <rww> jeff___: Is this for homework or something?
[19:14] <jeff___> rww: no
[19:14] <suigeneris> Beldar: Processing was halted because there were too many errors
[19:14] <Beldar> suigeneris, Is it still erring?
[19:14] <rww> jeff___: Wikipedia has a bunch of information about filesystem concepts, including these two. I'd start research there. Going in depth like this is not really on-topic for #ubuntu (and I'm in the middle of lunch, so...)
[19:15] <bprompt> belak51:  a bit old, yes, then again.... dunno the latest version
[19:15] <belak51> I'll mess with the github thing they link to
[19:15] <jeff___> rww: wiki said: Journaling file systems are one technique used to introduce transaction-level consistency to file system structures. Journal transactions are not exposed to programs as part of the OS API; they are only used internally to ensure consistency at the granularity of a single system call.
[19:15] <suigeneris> Beldar: I'm running apt-get -f install now
[19:16] <Su7> Hi, does anyone have an issue with the sidebar only showing the half of itself w/ autohide enabled ?  screenshot : http://imgur.com/Yzaz3GY
[19:17] <pratz> Can any one please help, I am getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7324260/
[19:19] <saiarcot895> pratz: Did you try 'apt-get -f install'?
[19:19] <pratz> saiarcot895: yes, no luck
[19:19] <majod> when an application updates, how long does it take to hit ubuntu repos?
[19:20] <saiarcot895> pratz: What about 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[19:21] <pratz> saiarcot895: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7324610/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/7324615/
[19:21] <pratz> saiarcot895: apt-get update works fine
[19:22] <Pici> pratz: what does the output of apt-cache policy vim   say?
[19:22] <saiarcot895> pratz: oh, there are files being overwritten
[19:23] <pratz> Pici: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7324626/
[19:23] <pratz> saiarcot895: which files ?
[19:23] <Pici> pratz: You installed a vim deb from a file that was not part of the Ubuntu repositories.  It is conflicting with what we have.  You need to remove that and install from the repos.
[19:24] <pratz> Pici: how do I remove that?
[19:24] <saiarcot895> pratz: Removing vim and then re-installing vim *should* work
[19:24] <saiarcot895> pratz: apt-get purge vim
[19:24] <pratz> saiarcot895: but there is on vim installed
[19:25] <Pici> pratz: dpkg -r vim
[19:25] <skinux> I notice 'du -h' is counting size of Windows partition. So, is Windows parition actually being responsible for low disk space of ''/'??
[19:25] <pratz> saiarcot895: Pici  here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7324640/
[19:25] <dw1> skinux: im gonna go with no
[19:25] <Jordan_U> skinux: No.
[19:25] <skinux> ok.
[19:26] <saiarcot895> pratz: follow Pici's commands
[19:26] <dw1> skinux: df -h shows disks separately
[19:26] <michaelaguiar> I am trying to make my main server listen for a specific port, in whcih case would redirect to a local VPN server to connect.  I have this for port forwarding: https://gist.github.com/michaelaguiar/a1a224e628937dc08232
[19:26] <saiarcot895> pratz: You have conflicting files/packages, and so vim won't entirely work.
[19:26] <skinux> Did you see my post of results from df -i and du -h??
[19:27] <michaelaguiar> So, if I use VPN to connect to {WAN-IP}:{SOME-PORT}, it should connect to my {VPN-IP}, which is a local network IP
[19:27] <michaelaguiar> Now, do I need to setup anything on my local vpn server to listen for that port as well?
[19:27] <k-joseph> hi guys
[19:27] <netyire> hello k-joseph, welcome to #ubuntu
[19:28] <pratz> saiarcot895: Pici http://paste.ubuntu.com/7324667/
[19:29] <suigeneris> Beldar: indeed, it seems the upgrade was interrupted
[19:29] <JRThump> In 14.04 (server), where can I find where macaddress to ethX names are mapped?
[19:29] <Pici> pratz: try apg-get remove vim
[19:29] <Yelu> JRThump, I got a similar setup (14.04 server on vbox, 2 NICS, 1st NIC NAT, 2nd NIC HOSTONLY). - Your /etc/network/interfaces should contains a definition for "eth1" like this => http://paste.ubuntu.com/7324648/
[19:29] <Jordan_U> JRThump: "ifconfig".
[19:29] <saiarcot895> apt-get remove vim (typo in command)
[19:30] <Beldar> suigeneris, It happens, hopefully this gets you fixed.
[19:30] <Pici> saiarcot895: oops
[19:30] <pratz> Pici: saiarcot895 yes guys its working now
[19:31] <k-joseph> there's a time i was here and i was tryijng to achiece some thing and i was advise to run some thing like sudo apt-get ..upgrade and un-fortunately it seems it created some issues/compromises within my system, and applications, i was previously using 12.04 and it shows the same version but i have received some changes since then i would love to reset back to the way i had my version, can i do this?
[19:31] <pratz> Pici: saiarcot895 did 'dpkg remove' worked ?
[19:31] <suigeneris> Beldar: I had to rename /var/lib/samba/secrets.tdb to be able to proceed with apt-get install -f
[19:31] <pratz> I am not sure but vim is installed now
[19:31] <Yelu> JRThump, after that run a sudo ifup eth1 and then sudo ifdown for eth1 (nothing more needed - or reboot the vm once)
[19:31] <pratz> saiarcot895: Pici thanks guys
[19:31] <JRThump> maybe mapping got mixed up when I enabled second NIC...? but where does Ubuntu 14.04 store the mapping of physical card -> ethX name?
[19:31] <skinux> And, since this damn upgrade I don't have any sound.
[19:32] <JRThump> i'll put back dhcp on both to see what they get
[19:32] <ElixirVitae> Hello.
[19:33] <belak51> bprompt: I got it to work, but I had to download it manually and untar it... then give it the source dir...
[19:33] <ElixirVitae> Yesterday, I inquired about a problem, youtube not working in neither Fİrefox nor Chromium.
[19:33] <belak51> bprompt: thanks for pointing me in that direction though
[19:33] <ElixirVitae> I have traced the problem to be about https, I was forcing it via httpseverywhere.
[19:33] <ElixirVitae> Disabling it did the trick.
[19:33] <ElixirVitae> Be it known.
[19:33] <ElixirVitae> Thanks for listening.
[19:34] <makro> hi everyone. I compiled this compiz plugin fork https://github.com/gloob/gloob-Ezoom-fork and it installs to $HOME/.compiz-1. is there any way to check if compiz loads the ezoom plugin from /usr/lib/compiz or $HOME/.compiz-1? I'm not getting the behavior I expect, so I'd like to know before digging deeper. (I don't know where this fits in the compiz/unity support realm, so I try here first (ubuntu 12.04.4))
[19:34] <bprompt> belak51:   np
[19:34] <suigeneris> ElixirVitae: intriguing
[19:34] <JRThump> gah, this is outrageous! :-) for some reason 14.04 doesn't "store" the network card MAC address so card1 which was called eth0 first became eth1 after I enabled the second NIC. Isn't that bad behaviour?
[19:35] <Beldar> ElixirVitae, works fine here with httpseverywhere so just posting works for you is moot.
[19:35] <michaelaguiar> anyone?
[19:35] <Yelu> JTThump, sorry, I mixed up "ifdown" (first)  and "ifup" (afterwards, obviously), but you got the idea, right?
[19:35] <suigeneris> !anyone > michaelaguiar
[19:35] <suigeneris> gah
[19:35] <ElixirVitae> I live in a rather peculiar country, Beldar.
[19:35] <suigeneris> michaelaguiar: just ask
[19:35] <ElixirVitae> That might be the reason.
[19:36] <michaelaguiar> suigeneris: I did, no response
[19:36] <ElixirVitae> Then again, it might not be, who knows?
[19:36] <ElixirVitae> ┐('～`；)┌
[19:36] <suigeneris> ElixirVitae: is youtube still banned?
[19:36] <michaelaguiar> I am trying to make my main server listen for a specific port, in whcih case would redirect to a local VPN server to connect.  I have this for port forwarding: https://gist.github.com/michaelaguiar/a1a224e628937dc08232
[19:36] <suigeneris> michaelaguiar: try asking again
[19:36] <ElixirVitae> Yes, suigeneris.
[19:36] <endo> How do I randomize my MAC address upon boot in 14.04?
[19:36] <ypaq> hi
[19:36] <michaelaguiar> So, if I use VPN to connect to {WAN-IP}:{SOME-PORT}, it should connect to my {VPN-IP}, which is a local network IP
[19:36] <boze> I'm using a terminal emulator tilda. When ever I hit F11 for full screen it adds a ~ Is there any way to prevent that?
[19:36] <ElixirVitae> But I have circumventions in place.
[19:36] <Jordan_U> endo: What is your end goal?
[19:36] <michaelaguiar> I also opened that port in IPTables
[19:36] <michaelaguiar> and am testing here: http://www.t1shopper.com/tools/port-scan/ — but says not responding to the port
[19:36] <JRThump> Yelu: I know my problem more now, I think stuff works between virtualbox and the guest, but _why_ does ubuntu change the name of one adapter from eth0 to eth1 after a reboot?
[19:37] <ypaq> can anybody explain to the rational why ubuntu 14.04 lts starts puppet agent by default?
[19:37] <endo> Jordan_U: Temporarly evade my netadmin.
[19:37] <Jordan_U> endo: Good luck then.
[19:37] <suigeneris> michaelaguiar: is the port open also in the modem/router?
[19:38] <tharkun> cups used to have cups-polld but on the latest release it doesn't have it. Is this ubuntu specific or is it part of an upstream decisition?
[19:38] <michaelaguiar> suigeneris: the main server has a modem connected to it, and acts as a router
[19:38] <michaelaguiar> so I opened the port, and set the listening with that gist above
[19:38] <suigeneris> !info cups-polld
[19:38] <suigeneris> !find cups-polld
[19:39] <skinnymg1> has anyone upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 in here, is so did it work well?
[19:39] <endo> Jordan_U: Why did you bother yourself asking if you don't have any clue to my question?
[19:39] <michaelaguiar> suigeneris: I can gist the iptables rules if you can help?
[19:40] <saiarcot895> skinnymg1: Yes, with Kubuntu.
[19:40] <Jordan_U> endo: I do have a clue, I'm just not willing to help you. Good luck.
[19:40] <JRThump> This page: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html says "Interface logical names are configured in the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules." But no such file exists!
[19:40] <Beldar> endo, Your end goal is not supported here.
[19:40] <dtcrshr> saiarcot895: can you please check the owner (user:group) and permissions for your /home/Public folder?
[19:40] <skinnymg1> saiarcot895, it went well?
[19:40] <saiarcot895> skinnymg1: Yes
[19:40] <skinnymg1> saiarcot895, thanks
[19:40] <marlinc> Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 atm. I hope ZFS for Linux works it with
[19:41] <saiarcot895> dtcrshr: 0755, and saikrishna:saikrishna
[19:41] <saiarcot895> dtcrshr: For another user to access it, though, I think the user would have to type the full path in directly (i.e. can't browse for it)
[19:41] <Jordan_U> marlinc: As ZFS for linux is third party software as far as Ubuntu is concerned, if your root filesystem is on ZFS you should be very careful when upgrading.
[19:42] <endo> Beldar: Funny, Ubuntu has become ##windows.
[19:42] <suigeneris> Beldar: apt-get -f install completed successfully, now I'm doing update / dist-upgrade
[19:42] <marlinc> My root it not but my media files are
[19:42] <marlinc> Is not*
[19:42] <dtcrshr> your regular user is saikrishna saiarcot895 I supose
[19:42] <dtcrshr> thanks !
[19:42] <saiarcot895> dtcrshr: saikrishna, yes
[19:43] <endo> Oh, oh, I'm sorry Beldar, Jordan_U, look here, thank you for your help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AnonymizingNetworkMACAddresses
[19:43] <suigeneris> michaelaguiar: I'm not knowledgeable with iptables, but I can take a peek
[19:43] <Yelu> JRThump, I don't know, what happened whith the renumbering of the cars/adapters, but on my ubuntu server vm was no rearrangement. - I you wanted static "pinning", then see: <JRThump> gah, this is outrageous! :-) for some reason 14.04 doesn't "store" the network card MAC address so card1 which was called eth0 first became eth1 after I enabled the second NIC. Isn't that bad behaviour?
[19:44] <Yelu> JRThump, sorry, messed up the clipboard - right one: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[19:44] <endo> Beldar: I think you should think to see if the goal is supported by the documentation before you claim authority on what is or is not allowed!
[19:46] <JRThump> Yelu: Can the pinning (pointing out which MAC address should become eth0) be performed through config in the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[19:51] <Yelu> JRThump, yes, man interfaces => "See the get-mac-address.sh  script  in  the  examples  directory  for an example of such a mapping script.  See also Debian bug
[19:51] <Yelu>        #101728."
[19:52] <terence> ok
[19:55] <macscam1> hey everyone how do i know if i am running gnome shell
[19:55] <JRThump> Yelu: ok thanks, will look this up
[19:55] <nowayride> Well I'm lost on this, but whoever's having issues with MAC do you not have /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules? MACs are rarely stored in /etc/*network* these days, even in Cent
[19:55] <Jordan_U> marlinc: Does anything happen if you move your cursor all the way to the top left corner of the screen?
[19:56] <Beldar> macscam1, How did you install it? Did you choose gnome in the login?
[19:56] <JRThump> nowayride: exactly!
[19:56] <macscam1> Beldar I tried logging out and looking for the option; couldnt find t
[19:57] <D7xk> when I use amdcccle to update my displays as sudo, the changes do not stick after a reboot.. any advice?
[19:57] <badass> https://www.digitalocean.com/?refcode=6006a30fade6
[19:57] <macscam1> Beldar there wre no options, just usr or guest
[19:57] <nowayride> Udev handles the enumerating of interfaces and you can override that, or if the file's missing it autogenerates it from... I forget but you can find the python script for it somewhere
[19:57] <JRThump> nowayride: I was expecting my freshly installed 14.04 to create a ....persistent-net.rules file but there is no such file
[19:57] <Beldar> macscam1, Has to be install sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop  this includes the fallback de as well
[19:57] <nowayride> JRThump: 14.04 server or desktop?
[19:58] <JRThump> server
[19:58] <macscam1> Beldar thx
[19:58] <nowayride> Dang, I haven't had a chance  to use 14.04 server yet, does dmesg give any hints about what's enumerating by mac?
[19:59] <zackiv31> anyone know how to create a bootable USB flash drive for 14.04 xubuntu from 13.10 xubuntu ?
[19:59] <belgianguy> zackiv31: unetbootin
[19:59] <reisio> zackiv31: I'd use 'dd', but unetbootin is less potentially dangerous
[20:01] <deekej> hey guys, any C/C++ devs here? can anyone help me a littleb bit with my Makefile? :)
[20:02] <ln_> The place where I work hosts many debian machines. the people there, tasked to fix heartbleed vulnerabilty, do so by aptitude upgrade openssl. apparently this doesn't upgrade libssl1.0.0 too. Is it necessary to aptitude upgrade openssl libssl1.0.0. ?
[20:02] <Sibylle18>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://j.mp/1gAh6Jy
[20:02] <JRThump> nowayride: in dmesg I see that the two adapters are detected in the opposite order compared to how they are enumerated in virtualbox. So it just seems ubuntu 14.04 just takes them in an arbitrary order. I want to "lock" mac address X to eth0 and Y to eth1...
[20:02] <Beldar> ln_, You asking for your ubuntu install?
[20:03] <nowayride> JRThump: IIRC udev doesn't enumerate sometimes in virtualization, you can manually set the persistent net rules file though
[20:03] <Beldar> ln_, http://www.ubuntu.co…sn-2165-1/ and http://heartbleed.com/ for more information.
[20:04] <ln_> thank you Beldar
[20:04] <zackiv31> thanks.. unetbootin seems easy... reisio anything special to dd and get it to be bootable ?
[20:05] <pancakes9> hi, if you lease an address from dhcp, and you do bad stuff with your ip address like hack bank accounts, and then someone else gets assigned that ip address later, how will the second person not get in trouble?
[20:05] <JRThump> nowayride: oh, yeah, perhaps that could be it...
[20:05] <shahan> where is the keyring stored in 14.04?
[20:06] <Beldar> pancakes9, Not a ubuntu support issue.
[20:07] <shahan> it's not in .gnome2
[20:08] <kester__> ?
[20:08] <deepfield> Hi there :D
[20:08] <kester__> bye
[20:09] <brainwash> shahan: .local/share/keyring
[20:10] <skinux> Fixed sound by reinstalling pulseaudio
[20:11] <skinux> And restarting. Now, I've 1.xGB free and have been removing software to fix disk problem.
[20:12] <Pici> skinux: fyi, in the future, if you use do-release-upgrade, it won't let you upgrade at all if you don't have enough disk space and you won't have these issues.
[20:12] <skinux> Thanks.
[20:14] <Guest44727> Hi...  anyone here familiar with Wubi or issues related to the upgrade to 14.04?
[20:14] <joshlegs> anybody have an ideaof how long it might take to unzip a 41gb file usin gunzip?
[20:14] <racho> can anyone give me an explanation why does compiz consumes 30% cpu time while idling and up to 100% when opening an application in 14.04
[20:14] <joshlegs> weeks? days? years?
[20:14] <racho> card is [AMD/ATI] RV730/M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650/5165] using the open source driver
[20:14] <majod> does anyone know whats the current popcorn time website?
[20:14] <Yelu> JRThump, quick shot: so how about "swapping" your Interfaces in the definition of your vm instance and restart?
[20:15] <ahmedrafat> wifi not work after update
[20:15] <Pici> majod: What does that have to with #ubuntu ?
[20:15] <ahmedrafat> my wireless
[20:16] <taltk9> Rory, I discovered the problem. It wasn't ubuntu, the problem wasn't the framework permissions =)
[20:16] <joshlegs> Pici: people who use ubuntu might also need to know the popcorn time website?
[20:16] <ahmedrafat> not connecd after update
[20:16] <taltk9> Rory, So it wasn't necessary downgrade php version
[20:17] <Pici> joshlegs: it really doesn't have anything to do with Ubuntu.
[20:18] <phoenixz> So I was on 14.04 beta1, just did an apt-get dist-upgrade, and now my apache won't start anymore. doing an strace, I found this: http://pastie.org/9109092  This looks like envvars is not executed or something. Is this a known problem?
[20:18] <joshlegs> i never understood why the ubuntu community is so uptight about everything. it's almost worse than the arch community
[20:18] <joshlegs> doesnt serve to validate the name "ubuntu" very well
[20:19] <Guest44727> Can anyone help with a Wubi issue stemming from an upgrade to 14.04?   Can't mount root at boot time.
[20:19] <racho> joshlegs, imo the "ubuntu" term died after lucid lynx for me at least
[20:20] <joshlegs> racho: sounds about accurate
[20:20] <taltk9> phoenixz, look the applications config files, they need ".conf" with apache last version
[20:20] <lab2> hola hay alguien?
[20:20] <SonikkuAmerica> !es | lab2
[20:20] <racho> is there an ubuntu-graphics channel or something like that?
[20:20] <Kartagis> Beldar: this is suigeneris. all is well now, thanks for your help
[20:21] <nowayride> phoenixz: does it still do that using service apache2 start ?
[20:21] <Kartagis> racho: /msg alis list *ubuntu*
[20:21] <racho> Kartagis, i already plowed through that...nothing relevant..that's why i asked
[20:21] <zumba_addict> hey folks, need to use netcat and I need it to listen to a port then forward it to another server
[20:22] <Beldar> Kartagis, Cool, enjoy.
[20:22] <Kartagis> zumba_addict: do you have to use netcat? can you use iptables or such?
[20:22] <phoenixz> taltk9: that could be something yeah, I found that problem before.. trying..
[20:22] <zumba_addict> i have to use netcat
[20:22] <zumba_addict> i foudn a command, trying it now
[20:23] <phoenixz> taltk9: no, envvars has to be without .conf it seems
[20:24] <nowayride> phoenixz: what about using service apache2 start
[20:24] <phoenixz> nowayride: that gives me "The apache2 instance did not start within 20 seconds. Please read the log files to discover problems"
[20:24] <taltk9> phoenixz, huuum ok. I had a problem and I solved using ".conf" in my projects config. And other problem was the permissions.
[20:25] <JRThump> Yelu: yes thought of that to. thanks for the help I have some things to try now
[20:25] <LvMises> Hey everyone.  I'm trying to access an internal HDD that was formatted for linux by a friend.  The HDD came from my macbook pro that bit the dust.  I am experiencing the same problems I found on this forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2058416
[20:25] <Yelu> JRThump, okay, good luck
[20:26] <LvMises> http://pastebin.com/buJjRw5L
[20:26] <phoenixz> taltk9: well, permissions should be root
[20:27] <LvMises> That is my output from what was requested on the forum post.  There werent any follow up posts since 2012.
[20:29] <ducky_> Hello!
[20:29] <ducky_> hmm
[20:29] <ducky_> anyone home?
[20:29] <LvMises> I'm waiting to see too. :(
[20:29] <Beldar> !ask > ducky_
[20:31] <linuxlite1983> hi
[20:31] <ducky_> i cannot go above 800x600 with my gtx 660. (((DVI-D-0 connected primary 800x600+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
[20:31] <ducky_>    800x600        60.3*+
[20:31] <ducky_> )))
[20:31] <xman> Hi guys I have always used ubuntu installed in windows but now I would like to create a separated partition to install the new 14.04 LTS could I have some advices?
[20:31] <ninored> xranr --newmode
[20:31] <ducky_> badmatch
[20:32] <ninored> and use cvt to capte the resolution ex: cvt 1280 1024
[20:32] <Beldar> !dualboot | xman good start
[20:33] <ducky_> ducky@ducky-MS-7758:~$ xrandr
[20:33] <ducky_> Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 800 x 600, maximum 16384 x 16384
[20:33] <ducky_> DVI-I-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[20:33] <ducky_> DVI-I-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[20:33] <ducky_> HDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[20:33] <ducky_> DP-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[20:33] <unopaste> ducky_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:33] <genii> Hm, i wonder if that factoid also covers EFI/UEFI
[20:33] <linuxlite1983> hi
[20:33] <xman> let me check thanks
[20:34] <ducky_> ducky@ducky-MS-7758:~$ xrandr --addmode
[20:34] <ducky_> i broke it
[20:34] <ducky_> Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)
[20:34] <ducky_>   Major opcode of failed request:  140 (RANDR)
[20:34] <ducky_>   Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (RRCreateMode)
[20:34] <ducky_>   Serial number of failed request:  39
[20:34] <ducky_>   Current serial number in output stream:  39
[20:34] <unopaste> ducky_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:34] <phoenixz> Okay, did some more checking, traced the problem to PHP
[20:34] <Beldar> ducky_, use a pastebin
[20:34] <Beldar> !pastebin | ducky_
[20:35] <phoenixz> php -m *crash*, that says enough. I also found that now that I am on 2.4, I have to use proxy_fcgi..
[20:35] <phoenixz> But, AFAIK, I have a default PHP install on an kubuntu 14.04 install, and PHP is segfaulting like hell.. Is there anything known about this?
[20:35] <xbox>  
[20:36] <ducky_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7325069/
[20:36] <ducky_> my native should be 1080
[20:36] <ducky_> see
[20:37] <ducky_> i have had ubuntu for years and played around with most distros, ive had most from 10.09 and up
[20:37] <ducky_> i just built this pc last year and every distro is not friendly with this setup
[20:37] <LvMises> Hey everyone.  I'm trying to access an internal HDD that was formatted for linux by a friend.  The HDD came from my macbook pro that bit the dust.  I am experiencing the same problems I found on this forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2058416
[20:37] <LvMises> http://pastebin.com/buJjRw5L
[20:38] <ducky_> hl272 and a 660 i guarantee i will never reach 1080
[20:38] <lickalott> Gents, anyone use qbitorrent here?   All of the sudden it "stalls" everything.  I'm thinking it's a SOCKS5/network issue but wanted to check here first.
[20:39] <ducky_> sudo apt-get install hfsprogs
[20:40] <lickalott> who was that for ducky_ ?
[20:40] <ducky_> um
[20:41] <ducky_> @ LV mises http://paste.ubuntu.com/7325098/
[20:41] <nowayride> LvMises: read the thread, as ducky_ points out, you missed installing some packages
[20:41] <nowayride>  1) sudo apt-get install hfsplus hfsprogs hfsutils
[20:41] <ducky_> but now
[20:42] <ducky_> onto my 800x600 issure
[20:42] <marlinc> How to run the Unity 8 preview on Ubuntu 14.04? I've installed the package but I'm getting a black white bordered arrow that sits in the top-left corner of the screen and nothing else
[20:42] <LvMises> Oh, I didn't know ducky was responding.
[20:42] <LvMises> Thanks ducky!
[20:42] <ducky_> YW!
[20:42] <racho> ducky_, why don't you try xrandr --newmode "1080p_60.00" **rest of stuff goes here
[20:42] <ducky_> mmk
[20:42] <racho> ducky_, maybe even drop the framerate
[20:43] <ducky_> oh i tried just about everything
[20:43] <ducky_> and still get either badmode/badmatch
[20:43] <ducky_> tried 59 too! ha
[20:43] <hatchetjack> so..... I was upgradin the other day to 14.04 and upgrade process was going well then screen went black and pc started beeping and carrying on.  Long story short I had to do a fresh install and luckily did not loose me data.
[20:43] <LvMises> It's installed.  Should I try to access the drive now?
[20:43] <ducky_> sure :D
[20:44] <hatchetjack> so for the last 6 upgrades or so where that did not happen and everything went well I'm thankful but this last one was like wth?
[20:44] <ducky_> if it doesnt work log out/ log in
[20:44] <ducky_> that may have been subsequential like your pc finally overheated at that point
[20:45] <racho> ducky_, what does xrandr -q gives with a connected monitor
[20:45] <LvMises> Ducky, no bueno.  I just tried logging out and in.
[20:46] <ducky_> i will see
[20:47] <ducky_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7325143/
[20:47] <ducky_> not really a lot
[20:47] <ducky_> if i use hdmi on my montor it works but has many lot vsync horror
[20:49] <elliotd123> Reminds me of old Netscape days
[20:49] <ducky_> sudo fsck.hfsplus -f /dev/sdXY ?
[20:49] <racho> ducky_, and does -> cvt 1680 1050 60
[20:49] <racho> gives you a different modeline?
[20:49] <racho> i mean 1920 1080 60
[20:49] <ducky_> oh oh ok
[20:50] <LvMises> ducky_: that command gives me no such file or directory.
[20:50] <ducky_> have you tried to mount via hfsprog?
[20:51] <LvMises> no, I don't know how to do that.
[20:51] <LvMises> I'll try to figure it out.
[20:52] <ducky_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7325168/
[20:53] <ducky_> check in gparted to confirm name
[20:53] <ducky_> sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw /dev/sdXY<your drive check in gparted /media/mntpoint
[20:53] <Noiro> <3 you ubuntu. Power went out for an hour, but you came back on, and booted Teamviewer, just as the doctor ordered.
[20:54] <ducky_> <3 you ubuntu ive been trying to get a 660 to work for a year on and off
[20:54] <Noiro> GTX660?
[20:55] <ducky_> yep but every time every distro is 800x600 and to no avail with any xrandr cmds
[20:55] <ducky_> runs mac osx just fine lol
[20:55] <tzvi> can someone please mention my nick? need to test something
[20:55] <LvMises> When you say, your drive, what am I typing in there?
[20:56] <LvMises> The drive is located in /media, yes?
[20:56] <LvMises> so ls /media would give me a name?
[20:56] <Noiro> I suppose you're using nuavou driver or proprietary nvidia ones?
[20:56] <ducky_> proprietary
[20:56] <ducky_> noveau actually displays it at 1080
[20:56] <racho> ducky_, do you a have a Xorg.conf
[20:56] <ducky_> but i cant use steam
[20:56] <ducky_> hmm
[20:57] <Noiro> You tested on the general nouvaou? I dunno, GTX560 plays quite nicely once I get the right driver in and config for multi-monitors
[20:57] <ducky_> i just installed this os again about 15 mins ago
[20:57] <racho> /etc/X11 -> should be there somewhere
[20:57] <ducky_> im going to say no
[20:57] <ducky_> but i will see
[20:57] <ducky_> and ive tried this method
[20:57] <ducky_> it ended with me going to a black screen
[20:58] <racho> ducky_, so you tried to set your monitor res in section "Screen" in your Xorg.conf
[20:58] <CPJoshCP> yo dawg
[20:58] <CPJoshCP> bye
[20:59] <LvMises> ducky_: I'm so lost. :(
[20:59] <LvMises> Would this be the name of the drive? 02b23472-04fa-486b-97e9-05d154fe4b2b
[20:59] <ducky_> there isnt an xorg yet
[21:00] <ducky_> /dev/sdb
[21:00] <ducky_> like that
[21:00] <ducky_> LV
[21:00] <ducky_> not sure what distro your working with LV
[21:00] <LvMises> 12/04 LTS
[21:00] <LvMises> 12.04 LTS*
[21:01] <ducky_> so search disks
[21:01] <UbOne> networkManager recognizes ZTE MF667 3G Modem as ethernet, shouldn't it be ppp0 ?
[21:01] <racho> ducky_, well i recall closed drivers should generate one
[21:01] <LvMises> I'm really new to this.
[21:01] <racho> there was aticonfig and something similar for nvidia
[21:02] <fabio123> unityfox dosn't work here on ubuntu 14.04
[21:02] <jaegerjaquez_> nope
[21:04] <ducky_> i think xorg is only used when noveau is active
[21:04] <LvMises> markbenoit@markbenoit-OptiPlex-360:~$ sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw /dev/sdb /media/mntpoint
[21:04] <LvMises> mount: mount point /media/mntpoint does not exist
[21:04] <phoenixz> Okay, on Ubuntu 14.04, PHP was working fine a few days ago, I did an apt-get upgrade, and now php anything will segfault. I've tried removing php completely reinstalling it, and still get the segfault. Is this a known issue? Anything I could do to fix this?
[21:04] <ducky_> and the proprietary drivers use a different config
[21:08] <LvMises> ducky_: Could I PM you?
[21:09] <sally_g> Hello everyone. Has anyone upgraded to 14.04 yet?
[21:09] <reisio> pretty sure someone has
[21:09] <tzvi> sally_g: whats up
[21:10] <sally_g> I did and now I cannot access a shared folder on a Windows machine on the network
[21:13] <Xboy> Guys can you check what s happened in my HD? I tried to make space with windows to install ununtu. Don t really know how to do partitions, this is the screenshot from gparted.   http://i.imgur.com/YyEgh4v.png    Please give me some advices
[21:14] <racho> Xboy, i assume you have a C: and a D: 'drive' in your windows setup
[21:14] <fabio123> Xboy, you can use the 48gb partiotn as a root  partition
[21:15] <Jordan_U> Xboy: Are you running into any problems? That looks perfectly reasonable to me.
[21:16] <fabio123> the swap partion though is missing
[21:16] <itmustbejj> hey I'm trying to troubleshoot some display problems with a dell monitor that should support 2560 x1600, but max available is 1920 x 1200. I am using a dual link dvi-d cable. Anyone have any troubleshooting suggestions?
[21:16] <itmustbejj> I'm using an integrated HD4000 graphics
[21:17] <Xboy> now no problem there is just a virtual version of ubuntu into windows but doesn t work anymore. I don t care because I have backups so i wanna delete Wubi, the old ubuntu and create new partitions to install Ubuntu 14.04 and Debian
[21:17] <Xboy> close to windows
[21:17] <racho> itmustbejj, have you tried adding it as a new mode to xrandr
[21:17] <Jordan_U> Xboy: So you just want help getting rid of Wubi?
[21:17] <itmustbejj> @racho no, I should probably start there
[21:18] <Xboy> yes that is the first step I think
[21:18] <racho> itmustbejj, well check the output of: cvt 2560 1600
[21:18] <Jordan_U> Xboy: OK, you do that from within Windows' Add/Remove programs.
[21:19] <itmustbejj> racho: http://pastebin.com/h9nmetr7
[21:19] <Xboy> so wubi is installed in windows as a normal program? if yes what is its name, wubi?
[21:20] <racho> itmustbejj, just to be sure check: xrandr | grep maximum
[21:20] <racho> itmustbejj, it should be greater than the one you want but just to be sure
[21:20] <itmustbejj> racho: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 4320 x 1600, maximum 8192 x 8192
[21:21] <Xboy> when i start my PC appear a black screen and is written WINDOWS BOOT LOADER i assume it is wubi
[21:21] <racho> itmustbejj, wait what? your current is 4320 x 1600? you want to downgrade it?
[21:21] <itmustbejj> racho: I'm running triple monitors :)
[21:22] <itmustbejj> middle one is what I'm trying to troubleshoot
[21:22] <itmustbejj> the outside ones are 1600 x1200 rotated sideways
[21:22] <racho> itmustbejj, ok paste the output of xrandr -q
[21:23] <ilyak> hiya
[21:23] <itmustbejj> racho: http://pastebin.com/rMka1JWX
[21:23] <itmustbejj> racho: I have the two smaller monitors as DVI -> HDMI and the main big monitor as DVI-D -> DVI-D
[21:24] <racho> itmustbejj, i suppose it's in 1080p right now?
[21:24] <racho> or actually 1920x1200
[21:24] <itmustbejj> racho: the troublesome monitor is maxed at 1920x1200 yeah
[21:25] <itmustbejj> racho: why does xrandr list it as hdmi1 when it's actually dvi-d?
[21:25] <racho> itmustbejj, because X11 and xrandr...a lot of insanity there
[21:26] <racho> itmustbejj,  xrandr --newmode "2560x1600_60.00"  348.50  2560 2760 3032 3504  1600 1603 1609 1658 -hsync +vsync
[21:26] <raphaell> voltei
[21:27] <itmustbejj> racho: after running xrandr -q it added that mode under dp3
[21:27] <racho> itmustbejj, does it throw an error?
[21:27] <racho> after running xrandr --newmode *
[21:27] <ezio> how can i generate a fake syslog message. i deleted all my syslog files and now i think it's not logging
[21:28] <itmustbejj> racho: no error and new mode under DP3, but my intel hd4000 has no dp inputs
[21:28] <racho> itmustbejj, xrandr --addmode HDMI1 2560x1600_60.00
[21:28] <raphaell> I'm with personal problems, had to do a recovery of win 8 coming by professional native question so far so good, installed it and then immediately installed ubuntu in dual boot, grub appeared and started the ubuntu normally, there was access win to know if everything was okay and I realized I had no option windows boot loader only manage windows, shook it, the windows began to restart but the grub was gone, I did everything I found on the internet,
[21:28] <raphaell> typed commands recovery started with live cd but all without success, so I decided to format everything and do all the recovery win again and install ubuntu again finished doing the two first installed windows and when I finished I realized that ubuntu the problem persisted, so when you open the grub appears WINDOWS BOOT MANEGE option, if I click it, grub will be gone, how can I do to solve this?
[21:29] <itmustbejj> ezio you could use python's syslog.syslog()
[21:29] <racho> itmustbejj, if it passes you can cross your fingers and try xrandr --output HDMI1 --mode 2560x1600_60.00
[21:29] <racho> and it should switch your reso
[21:29] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | raphaell
[21:30] <raphaell> oks
[21:30] <itmustbejj> racho: first command added the mode but second command errored "xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed"
[21:31] <raphaell> Jordan_U, nor was it necessary to use pastebin, sudo bash ~ / Downloads / boot_info_script *. sh
[21:31] <skinnymg1> okay I upgraded from Xubuntu 13.10 to 14.04 and it seems to have worked well. It still has the old look though.
[21:32] <AndresSM_> hi
[21:32] <Jordan_U> raphaell: I don't understand your last message.
[21:32] <raphaell> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280
[21:32] <raphaell> File not found
[21:33] <ezio> itmustbejj, logger blah
[21:33] <ezio> does not do anything
[21:33] <ezio> i've never used python
[21:33] <ezio> but that's what it says to do for bash
[21:33] <racho> itmustbejj, hm
[21:33] <itmustbejj> ezio: open a python shell from command line (python) and then "from syslog import syslog" then "syslog('blah')"
[21:34] <Jordan_U> raphaell: What is the exact command you ran?
[21:34] <itmustbejj> racho: I might just be asking too much of the integrated hd4000
[21:34] <raphaell> yes
[21:34] <racho> itmustbejj, why don't you try arandr
[21:34] <itmustbejj> racho: I already had to upgrade to bleeding edge kernel for various intel fixes to run triple monitors
[21:35] <racho> it's a nice GUI around xrandr
[21:35] <racho> itmustbejj, triple monitor should work after 3.13
[21:35] <racho> *3.12
[21:35] <racho> so you should be covered
[21:35] <Jordan_U> raphaell: Looks like that page is out of date, follow this one instead: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ .
[21:35] <itmustbejj> racho: I originally upgrade to 3.5 to get triple monitors working. I actually just upgraded to 3.15 rc2
[21:36] <raphaell> ok
[21:36] <racho> itmustbejj, i have a colleague that runs triple with hd4000
[21:36] <racho> itmustbejj, but i don't think he rerouted them through HDMI
[21:36] <itmustbejj> racho: yeah I ran it ok with 2 1920x1080 and one 1920x1200 but I just got the new 2560 monitor
[21:37] <itmustbejj> well I got 3 new monitors.
[21:37] <itmustbejj> my old setup was stable enough with some livable tearing
[21:37] <itmustbejj> but maybe with the new resolution of this bigger monitor I've pushed the hd4000 to it's limit
[21:37] <itmustbejj> racho: i'm not familiar with arandr
[21:38] <ezio> k syslog is certainly not logging to syslog anymore
[21:38] <ezio> anyone know what i can do?
[21:38] <raphaell> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/uecj8NKv
[21:38] <raphaell> finish
[21:38] <RedPunch> How do I change the name of the account not the username?
[21:38] <michaelaguiar> I just setup a PPTPD VPN server.  I can connect fine, but can’t access network drives that I could when in the office.  How can I fix this?
[21:38] <racho> itmustbejj, well it's just a GUI wrap-up around xrandr
[21:39] <racho> itmustbejj, you don't have to go through cryptic commands for most of the stuff
[21:39] <itmustbejj> racho: arandr errors with "ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: '1600_60.00'"
[21:39] <Yelu> ezio, logger -s "ezio's test entry to syslog"
[21:39] <ezio> tried that too
[21:40] <ezio> cat syslog ... nothing
[21:40] <RedPunch> Going to Setttings>User Accounts lets me change it but as soon as I click outside the text box, changes back to the original name
[21:40] <Yelu> ezio, that's bad :(
[21:41] <Yelu> ezio, restarted the machine?
[21:41] <ezio> Yelu, something tells me i shouldn't have deleted syslog files
[21:41] <Jordan_U> raphaell: Do you know why you have two EFI System Partitions (or rather one EFI System Partition, sda3, and one fat32 partition with EFI files, sda1)?
[21:41] <deepfield> itmustbejj, "1600_60.00" doesn't seem right. shouldn't it be something along the lines of 1600x1000_60.00
[21:41] <Yelu> ezio, try to recreate it manually, then restart
[21:41] <ezio> did
[21:42] <michaelaguiar> Can anyone point me in the right direction with PPTPD help?
[21:42] <ezio> trying the opposite tact doesn't work either
[21:42] <racho> itmustbejj, try xrandr --addmode HDMI1 2560x1600
[21:43] <raphaell> Jordan_U, probably a recovery partition that comes native in sony vaio
[21:43] <racho> itmustbejj, it must at least flicker and reset back to current
[21:43] <itmustbejj> racho: xrandr: cannot find mode "2560x1600"
[21:44] <itmustbejj> racho: I think the arandr in the ubuntu ppa was busted or something. I added chrysn's ppa and installed from there and it opened fine
[21:45] <itmustbejj> racho: I don't think that mode we added earlier is correct "2560x1600_60.00" maybe a typo or something?
[21:45] <racho> itmustbejj, i guess so
[21:45] <itmustbejj> 2560x160060.00 is how the resolution shows in arandr
[21:46] <racho> itmustbejj, xrandr --rmmode 2560x1600_60.00
[21:46] <racho> itmustbejj, get rid of it first
[21:46] <LeartS> Hi guys. What's the channel for development of Ubuntu software (not Ubuntu itself)
[21:47] <itmustbejj> racho: rmmode errored: http://pastebin.com/D2dt7cuw
[21:47] <racho> itmustbejj, sudo it
[21:48] <itmustbejj> racho yeah I tried that, same error
[21:48] <raphaell> Jordan_U, http://i.gyazo.com/e6ff4bf8bb20ab74b85b9e822e6089bb.png
[21:48] <Guest19905> Hi. So, today I used a Russian proxy to trick a person online that I am Russian (don't ask why), and all suddenly I can see many ports open. I just used it on firefox.. could it be it?
[21:49] <Guest19905> There were just 3 ports there, yesterday.
[21:50] <Jordan_U> raphaell: Please pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr".
[21:50] <raphaell> oks
[21:50] <racho> itmustbejj, pf.. got i hade X
[21:50] <raphaell> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/n8y3aY5M
[21:51] <racho> itmustbejj, xrandr --delmode HDMI1 2560x1600_60.00
[21:51] <itmustbejj> that did the trick
[21:51] <karstensrage> how would you upgrade only java on 12.04
[21:52] <raphaell> Jordan_U, just to confirm if it was not clear, the "Windows Boot Manege" If I tighten the grub is deleted automatically, I'm using a translator I think you might not understand some words.
[21:52] <fayesal> karstensrage: get java from oracle?
[21:55] <Fluxis> Hello; I wonder if someone would be so kind as to help me work out a problem i'm having connecting transmission to a private tracker? Other trackers are working, just not a certain one.
[21:57] <michaelaguiar> Do I need to do any additional steps to allow VPN users to access networked drives using PPTPD?
[21:58] <Guest19905> rebooting
[22:02] <Yelu> ezio, is it permissions? - sample: http://askubuntu.com/questions/304915/var-log-syslog-empty
[22:02] <ezio> Yelu, i set it to root:adm g+rw
[22:03] <hdzahedi> hi
[22:03] <Yelu> ezio, okay
[22:03] <michaelaguiar> Anyone familiar with PPTPD that can give me a hand?
[22:07] <hdzahedi> i'm project scheduler, i want to open & edit *.mpp files from ms project program in win, i test some project management program in ubunu but all of them is diffrent in file format. is there any body can help
[22:07] <raphaell> Jordan_U, any ideas?
[22:09] <somekool> About USN-2160-1 : I believe 14.04 is also affected and needs a package update.
[22:10] <compdoc> one word: bug report
[22:11] <Fluxis> anyone able to help with transmission?
[22:12] <Fluxis> anyone able to help with transmission?
[22:12] <Fluxis> oops sorry as its grey didnt think that had gone, my bad.
[22:13] <trism> somekool: it is already patched: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libyaml/0.1.4-3ubuntu3
[22:14] <cyborgcygnus> How to install Java Sound API/Plugin?
[22:15] <admin-jkl> New Lamborghini Gallardo 30 Seconds to Mars Edge of the Earth Music Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDj-hWV59N0
[22:15] <adymitruk> I need to calibrate my laptop screen for photo editing.. any suggestions? lots out there for Windows and Mac...
[22:16] <willwh> lol
[22:16] <willwh> ./whowas admin-jkl
[22:16] <willwh> on some telia.it connection
[22:16] <willwh> I wonder if that is some sad lamborghini attempt at advertising in IRC?
[22:16] <willwh> wtf
[22:16] <Fluxis> bizarre
[22:16] <willwh> rather
[22:17] <willwh> I mean it could just be a fan
[22:17] <willwh> but that seems rather odd
[22:17] <Fluxis> willwh, do you know much about transmission?
[22:17] <willwh> the torrent client?
[22:17] <Fluxis> this isnt the comments section of youtube, yeah the client!
[22:18] <willwh> yeah a good bit, I use rtorrent myself
[22:18] <willwh> but I might be able to help, what's up
[22:18] <Fluxis> ok, I just got a new laptop, this one is corei3 so its 64bit and this now has 14.04 installed. the old one is on 12.04 and is 32bit
[22:19] <somekool> @trism so, it is patched, but version still reports as 0.1.4 so ruby tools still complains. any chance to get 0.1.6 installed ?
[22:19] <LeartS> adymitruk: I don't know if it's enough for photo editing (I'm not a professional), but did you see this? http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
[22:20] <Fluxis> i am trying to connect to myanonamouse, and I can't i've checked all i can think of in port forwarding. and I can connect from the other computer, but this one wont. someone suggest it would be something to do with gnutls thats beyond me
[22:20] <adymitruk> LeartS: thanks. Looks useful. I'll try it out.
[22:21] <Fluxis> behind the same router, have set up each pc to have a static ip on the router, and connect to different ports, for portforwarding and tried assigning the same ports. but that ddnt change anything
[22:21] <Fluxis> I can connect to other trackers though. I hear it might be to do with ssl
[22:22] <hdzahedi> i'm project scheduler, i want to open & edit *.mpp files from ms project program in win, i test some project management program in ubunu but all of them is diffrent in file format. is there any body can help
[22:23] <racho> hdzahedi, http://www.projectlibre.org/
[22:23] <trism> somekool: you'll probably have to build it yourself if you want it, I don't immediately see any ppas and debian is still at 0.1.4 too.
[22:23] <Fluxis> linuxalt.com has equivalent programs
[22:25] <Fluxis> racho http://openproj.org/openproj
[22:25]  * racho agrees with Fluxis 
[22:26] <hdzahedi> racho, it's so helpfull, thanks
[22:26] <reisio> I use humans for project management
[22:28] <Kboy> Try connection
[22:28] <Fluxis> connection?
[22:29] <Kboy> Nothing man I am trying if works the chat
[22:29] <skinux> Baobab is showing 74% of disk space is used by /media/<skinux>/os, but that is Windows partition (mounted). I don't see how that can be since that shouldn't count toward the disk space of '/'
[22:29] <Fluxis> ahh sorry.
[22:30] <Fluxis> anyone a transmission guru here?
[22:30] <Kboy> Thanks :)
[22:30] <raphaell> I'm with personal problems, had to do a recovery of win 8 coming by professional native question so far so good, installed it and then immediately installed ubuntu in dual boot, grub appeared and started the ubuntu normally, there was access win to know if everything was okay and I realized I had no option windows boot loader only manage windows, shook it, the windows began to restart but the grub was gone, I did everything I found on the internet,
[22:30] <raphaell> typed commands recovery started with live cd but all without success, so I decided to format everything and do all the recovery win again and install ubuntu again finished doing the two first installed windows and when I finished I realized that ubuntu the problem persisted, so when you open the grub appears WINDOWS BOOT MANEGE option, if I click it, grub will be gone, how can I do to solve this?
[22:30] <willwh> Fluxis: not sure mate, sorry :/
[22:30] <Fluxis> :( thanks anyway...
[22:31] <Jordan_U> raphaell: Please try selecting the Windows Boot Manger and then boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB and pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr".
[22:33] <raphaell> Jordan_U, the problem is that if I inicalizar windows manege will delete grub and I can not recover it, ended up having to make a 4-hour recovery windows and then install ubuntu, my biggest concern is that
[22:33] <raphaell> initialize*
[22:33] <holstein> raphaell: you can, and will recover it with the live CD
[22:34] <raphaell> holstein, I tried several different ways, over and over and could not
[22:34] <holstein> raphaell: you let windows break grub, then recover grub,.. then, install the proper grub
[22:34] <holstein> raphaell: have you tried the suggestion above?
[22:34] <holstein> raphaell: sudo efibootmgr ?
[22:35] <holstein> raphaell: you'll do that *after* you let windows break grub. then, recover with a live CD
[22:35] <holstein> !uefi
[22:35] <raphaell> still can not, try
[22:36] <holstein> raphaell: so you tried that?
[22:36] <holstein> raphaell: what were the errors, friend?
[22:36] <holstein> raphaell: we need details to volunteer helpful information
[22:36] <raphaell> holstein, just type sudo efibootmgr to recover grub?
[22:36] <holstein> raphaell: no
[22:38] <holstein> raphaell: step one.. select the windows boot manager.. step 2, recover grub using an ubuntu live CD.. step 3, run "sudo efibootmgr" and pastebin the output for Jordan_U
[22:38] <holstein> raphaell: this is *not* a fix yet
[22:39] <raphaell> holstein, accessed when the windows boot manager and later used the live cd, typed several commands to recover the grub but all to no avail, in the end he could not install grub, tried to install boot-repair but could not install the same, he did not install the live cd
[22:39] <holstein> raphaell: then, share *exact* errors
[22:39] <holstein> raphaell: this is the only way to get information for volunteers to help you
[22:40] <raphaell> holstein, the problem that I do not recover your grub, tried several times, I'll try to find a solution and if I can not I'll try this procedure.
[22:40] <Yelu> !pastebin | raphaell, just in case, friend -
[22:41] <holstein> raphaell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:41] <raphaell> Yelu, ??
[22:41] <holstein> raphaell: and you paste errors.
[22:41] <holstein> raphaell: use the pastebin to share the *exact* error output
[22:41] <raphaell> ok
[22:42] <holstein> raphaell: this is the next step, friend.. the "best" proceedure would be for your hardware to allow you to do what you are doing. that is not the case.. you have purchased hardware with restrictions
[22:42] <holstein> raphaell: you can try disabling those restrictions in the bios, or asking the vendor for support. or, we will need more information to volunteer support here
[22:43] <raphaell> holstein, but it worked on ubuntu 13:10
[22:44] <holstein> raphaell: nothing has changed friend
[22:44] <raphaell> when instalei o 13.10 elemento Veio sem grub o boot loader do Windows EO menager, elemento Só Parou de funcinar when cliquei SEM Querer não bota menager
[22:44] <bennypr0fane_> hello, would anybody mind taking a look at these issues? https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?65304-Some-GUI-issues&p=349975#post349975
[22:45] <bennypr0fane_> I'm sorry I'm in a bit of a hurry with this, is why I'm checking if someone might be able to help out here. I tried to submit a bug report with the automatic tool, but installation of these additional debugging symbols failed
[22:45] <raphaell> holstein, So it is no restriction on the hardware functioned 13:10
[22:45] <holstein> raphaell: there is not restrictions built into linux or ubuntu
[22:45] <bennypr0fane_> the most urgent is for me to get the window list back
[22:46] <orbisvicis> i'm running 12.04 update-manager/release-upgrades::Prompt=lts, yet I get "no new release found" ?
[22:46] <raphaell> I believe that both
[22:46] <holstein> raphaell: "belief" is of no consequence, friend.. ubuntu nor linux restricts you from installing it
[22:46] <holstein> belief*
[22:47] <orbisvicis> holstein: kernel has list of country/wifi restrictions
[22:50] <Sashmo__> hey guys..... Multicast question.... Using Ubuntu 12.04 and I have several multicast on for example 239.0.0.1:1234 and 239.0.0.2:1234, but when I connect to one, its fine, but if I want to connect to another one, it wont work, the streams are full of problems.... Does anyone have a suggestion?
[22:51] <holstein> orbisvicis: are those preventing your fron installing linux?
[22:51] <orbisvicis> holstein: no
[22:51] <jordanb_> boyyyyyys
[22:55] <gamez-n-shizzle> yoooo!!!
[22:56] <gamez-n-shizzle> hey guys
[22:56] <gamez-n-shizzle> i love ubuntu
[22:56] <gamez-n-shizzle> FUCK WINDOWS!
[22:56] <gamez-n-shizzle> got steam up
[22:56] <gamez-n-shizzle> DOTA up
[22:57] <gamez-n-shizzle> i wanna update my drivers, i got this xorg-edgers PPA whatever the hell a PPA is...
[22:57] <gamez-n-shizzle> before i update it from the currently working drivers (331 i believe)... i just run the sudo ppa commands?? it will automatically update it ?
[22:58] <gamez-n-shizzle> hjnp;t 9tr98uy-4]io64r44ohop4ti ]
[22:58] <gamez-n-shizzle> 4[8iy;fptlgp6'67luhj
[22:58] <gamez-n-shizzle> it seems no one is here
[22:59] <gamez-n-shizzle> :P
[22:59] <daftykins> gamez-n-shizzle: the PPA you're adding is a bad move
[22:59] <daftykins> just leave it as it is
[22:59] <gamez-n-shizzle> really?
[22:59] <daftykins> yes
[22:59] <gamez-n-shizzle> but i hear from 334 and on great improvement for openGL
[23:00] <gamez-n-shizzle> besides that --- i notice with wireless VS ethernet, I get better speeds with ethernet, which shouldnt be - as I have a KILLER Asus NT66u router and 45mbps internet...
[23:00] <gamez-n-shizzle> i believe its cause im not using the best drivers for my intel wifi ??
[23:00] <daftykins> ¬_¬
[23:03] <gamez-n-shizzle> sooo not so ?
[23:06] <deepfield> Anyone else have better performance using chrome instead of Chromium?
[23:06] <gamez-n-shizzle> how can i check for updated wireless drivers ?
[23:07] <gamez-n-shizzle> i get better speeds with ethernet
[23:07] <mman> hi, i'm trying to run a program eg. firefox when userlogs in. I set in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf the following: session-setup-script=firefox google.com and autologin-user=username so that username can login automatically when power on. The firefox starts BUT just firefox, no other program at all. What can I do to have a normal enviroment? thanks!
[23:07] <gamez-n-shizzle> but i got 5.4 ghz band working, and router is solid...
[23:10] <daftykins> gamez-n-shizzle: ethernet is faster than wireless...
[23:11] <daftykins> where ethernet = wired LAN
[23:12] <gamez-n-shizzle> i doubt that
[23:12] <gamez-n-shizzle> i mean yes i know what you mean in general
[23:12] <gamez-n-shizzle> but to get 45 mbps, when im close to the router... should both get at least the same speed
[23:12] <omg_scout> hello. I belive my ubuntu switched to software rendering after update to 14.04, even though I have fresh drivers for my Intel HD4600 card installed. What can I do to get rid of the lagging?
[23:13] <gamez-n-shizzle> your question reminds me of something else.. when running netfix or watching a video fullscreen, i notice some clipping or screen rendering refreshing type issue like a line across the screen where the video is not updating all together....
[23:13] <gamez-n-shizzle> how can i fix that ?
[23:14] <Bailey> Could someone help me?
[23:15] <mman> gamez-n-shizzle, omg_scout: i remember i had one a similar problem, it was the compiz... i had to uninstall it... and then it worked :P
[23:15] <mman> Bailey: ?
[23:15] <nith1210> !help
[23:15] <coppercore> tldr compiz is broked most of the time
[23:15] <omg_scout> mman: yeah compiz is literally eating most of the cpu resources. I will give it a try, thanks
[23:16] <Bailey> My OpenShot is giving me a Blender error, it can find the Blender executable, but it gives me the, "Error Output" message.
[23:16] <donc3> Hi ! I have a little problem with flash in chromium
[23:16] <donc3> i can't put it in full screen mode
[23:16] <donc3> this is how I see the screen when I put it in full screen
[23:16] <donc3> http://i58.tinypic.com/35n81h1.jpg
[23:18] <Jordan_U> mman: You're using entirely the wrong function. Just add Firefox to the gnome-session startup, don't replace gnome-session with firefox.
[23:19] <donc3> Anyone knows about my problem??
[23:20] <Bailey> I've looked online in several places, and none of the solutions fixed my problem - OpenShot is giving me an error when I try to use the blender title animations. It can find the executable itself, but it's giving me an error, I believe says: "No Error Output". Does anybody know a solution?
[23:22] <mman> Jordan_U: does that work for unity?
[23:22] <Bailey> Are you seeing chat that I'm not mman?
[23:23] <willwh> Bailey: yes, probably from before you joined the channel
[23:24] <Bailey> I've been in the channel, though, it seems like he's responding to something just constantly.
[23:24] <aPpYe> I chose to build friends and family machines with a  metapackage I maintain on my simple repository ... This has worked great until 14.04 release.  Now, upon upgrading to 14.04, do-release-upgrade wants to uninstall my metapackage, and most of the packages it calls.  Why?  How to stop this?
[23:24] <aPpYe> all machines were built on 13.10 originally.
[23:25] <willwh> so you haven't done a distpupgrade before?
[23:25] <aPpYe> the same, unmodified metapackage installs perfectly on a fresh 14.04 mini installation.
[23:25] <willwh> I am not sure how you can stop dist-upgrade disabling packages
[23:25] <willwh> I imagine there is a way to do so
[23:26] <aPpYe> I have done dist-upgrade lots and lots on other debian derivatives.  I was surprised to see do-releaseupgrade killing my package though.
[23:27] <aPpYe> how does it see some metapackages as "okay" to have ... or something?
[23:27] <willwh> did you try a straight dist-upgrade?
[23:27] <willwh> that doesn't work in ubuntu?
[23:27] <willwh> (I'm running debian mostly)
[23:27] <aPpYe> well, the idea is to have people use the standard GUI tool.
[23:28] <aPpYe> I would think dist-upgrade would not cause this to happen, and that this is something in the do-release script
[23:28] <aPpYe> but that is just me assuming I guess.
[23:28] <Sirisian|Work> Odd. I have an issue. I setup a VM with ubuntu 14.04 to test. I installed ssh and gave root a password. I can't login with putty using root to the server. I can login just fine using my default account. There's no PermitRootLogin line in the /etc/ssh/ssh_config so it should default to yes like it always has. Once logged in as my default account I can su to root just fine. What's going on?
[23:30] <Yelu> Sirisian|Work, Unbuntu's default root account has no password set, so you can't use it to log i with ssh. - This is intended for security reasons. - Just do it as you described here.
[23:31] <Sirisian|Work> Yelu, I su and set a password though using passwd
[23:31] <Sirisian|Work> does that no longer work?
[23:32] <Sirisian|Work> it says it was updated
[23:32] <codepython777> is do-release-upgrade available for 12.04 LTS to move to 14.04? is it reliable yet?
[23:33] <Yelu> Sirisian|Work, okay, you set a password in your rootuser account and permitted root logins in ssh_config. - Did you log out and log in and  "sudo service ssh restart" to put your changes in effect
[23:33] <jost_> codepython777: my last info says that it will be available once 14.04.1 is released
[23:33] <Yelu> ?
[23:34] <jost_> to make sure it is reliable
[23:34] <quem> hmm, no minidlna in ubuntu 14.04 repositories? does anyone know why?
[23:34] <jost_> 14.04.1 release date are in june or such
[23:34] <jost_> *is
[23:36] <Pici> july
[23:36] <hdzahedi> what is the installer file format in the ubuntu?
[23:36] <codepython777> jost_: Thanks
[23:37] <Sirisian|Work> Yelu, I'm restarting to see if that'll solve it. And yes. I have documentation I follow that I've used to setup 13.10 servers. Moving to 14.04 and updating my documentation at the moment.
[23:37] <Pici> hdzahedi: .deb
[23:37] <Sirisian|Work> yeah still can't login as root. Very peculiar.
[23:39] <aPpYe> I am not much of a python guy, but I don't see anything in the do-release-upgrade script itself to disallow metapackages.  I don't see anything related to apt either... I am thinking I need to look at get_fetcher?
[23:41] <Jordan_U> aPpYe: Does your metapackage conflict with ubuntu-desktop in any way?
[23:42] <aPpYe> perhaps?  Not sure.  I build a kde system.  ubuntu-desktop wouldn't be on a system built from mini.iso anyway though ...
[23:42] <aPpYe> so I am unsure if that is relevant.
[23:42] <Sirisian|Work> Yelu, ignore me.
[23:43] <Sirisian|Work> I got it to work. I was looking at the wrong file
[23:43] <Yelu> Sirisian|Work, okay your "/etc/ssh/sshd_config" contains "PermitRootLogin yes" and "DenyUsers user1 user2 ..." (<= WITHOUT "root") or commented out? - And just to be sure add "AllowUsers root" to the file, then restart sshd
[23:43] <[BAC]Draxon|TWL> "The animals will hear!" bellowed the ear licking penguin as the awesomely endowed midget sucked her oozing charlies and plugged his purple middle leg into her festering cunt.
[23:43] <[BAC]Draxon|TWL> oops
[23:43] <[BAC]Draxon|TWL> wrong window
[23:44] <aPpYe> Jordan_U,  do you agree that I am correct in my assessment that ubuntu-desktop would be irrelevant?
[23:46] <Sirisian|Work> Yelu, /etc/ssh/sshd_config had PermitRootLogin set to without-password. Previous versions this was just set to "yes". I usually do my server setup with putty to quicly paste commands.
[23:46] <Yelu> Sirisian|Work, okay. - And now it works?
[23:47] <Sirisian|Work> yeah I'm in
[23:47] <Yelu> Sirisian|Work, good to read :)
[23:48] <gamez-n-shizzle> how can i check if i have the latest intel centrino wifi drivers?
[23:52] <aPpYe> I am figuring my problem has something to do with do-release-upgrade because both that and the GUI updater (muon and friends) wants to uninstall my metapackage.
[23:53] <michaelaguiar> Anyone around familiar with PPTPD?
[23:53] <hdzahedi> Pici, i want to instal project libre & downloaded it 2 time
[23:53] <aPpYe> perhaps I need a provides or something in the metapackage?
[23:53] <aPpYe> or do I WANT it to conflict with ubuntu-desktop, since I do not want ubuntu-desktop installed?
[23:54] <hdzahedi> Pici, but it did work any way
[23:54] <fun> hey folks
[23:54] <fun> :)
[23:55] <fun> whats the best way to install boost 1.55 on Ubuntu 13.10?
[23:55] <fun> apt-get gets 1.53 so is there someway to link it to newer Ubuntu depository
[23:57] <gamez-n-shizzle> how can i check for updated wifi drivers ?
[23:57] <michaelaguiar> PPTPD VPN, I can connect, but can’t access internet network IPs, why is this?