| === Unismurfhedgehog is now known as SonikkuAmerica | ||
| bei | hi, i seem to have a problem; before logging in i was checking out the universal access switches and turned on zooming. once i did that the screen went black although i can usually see and move the mouse. Restarting (my usual fix-all) hasn't fixed or reset anything. is there some way to start in a safe mode to turn zoom off? or is there another better option? | 03:30 |
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| A-Ubuntu-User | greetings. anyone know how to reset gnome in ubuntu 14? | 05:05 |
| bei | oh, i would love an answer to that too! | 05:09 |
| A-Ubuntu-User | well, there's a site i found that let's you reset it. but my problem is really weird. | 05:09 |
| A-Ubuntu-User | here's the line if you just want to reset things. | 05:10 |
| A-Ubuntu-User | http://askubuntu.com/questions/378769/gnome-shell-installation-problems-in-ubuntu-13-10 | 05:10 |
| A-Ubuntu-User | you'll have to follow the instructions at the very bottom of the webpage too, or it won't work. | 05:10 |
| A-Ubuntu-User | so, anyone know the sid for the gnome gdm? | 05:11 |
| bei | thanks, i will check that out... i hope someone can help | 05:15 |
| dreinull | Whoever is listening, the ubuntu gnome edition is really great. Totally appreciated. | 08:54 |
| dreinull | I have not used a linux distro more satisfying before. | 08:55 |
| dreinull | btw. I used the lubuntu installer and then updated to gnome-.desktop because my dvd-drive doesn't read dvds anymore, only cds | 08:56 |
| dreinull | this has probably been discussed before but since there is nothing online about it, how do I install 3.12? | 08:56 |
| === ph_afk is now known as ph1 | ||
| SammyMouse_ | hello! I am having some ubuntu gnome issues and I was wondering if anyone can give me a hand | 14:01 |
| SammyMouse_ | anyone around? | 14:04 |
| holstein | SammyMouse_: ? | 14:06 |
| holstein | SammyMouse_: you just ask, and a volunteer may help | 14:07 |
| SammyMouse_ | ah, I am having two problems, first off: for the life of me I can not get extensions to work. I go to https://extensions.gnome.org/ select one, it asks if I want to install it, I click yes...and nothing happens | 14:08 |
| SammyMouse_ | any ideas? | 14:10 |
| stratus_ss | anyone about this fine day? | 14:13 |
| stratus_ss | I am wondering if it is safe to remove gnome documents...i.e. does it break meta packages? | 14:13 |
| SammyMouse_ | some people are around... | 14:21 |
| stratus_ss | around but silent :D | 14:23 |
| stratus_ss | i moved from Arch to Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 | 14:23 |
| stratus_ss | I am trying to use a Recently Used Files extension, but it insists on opening stuff in gnome documents | 14:23 |
| stratus_ss | which is super annoying | 14:23 |
| stratus_ss | because you know... i actually want to edit the stuff | 14:24 |
| SammyMouse_ | I moved from Elementary OS to Ubuntu Gnome....and I still cant bloody get extension,to work... | 14:24 |
| SammyMouse_ | I wish there was a way to just manually download the Zip files from https://extensions.gnome.org/... | 14:25 |
| stratus_ss | ya some of my extensions i had to go to github | 14:25 |
| stratus_ss | what ones are you having problems with | 14:25 |
| SammyMouse_ | all of them... | 14:26 |
| SammyMouse_ | like...none of them work, I am trying to get a weather one and more so one that allows me to tweak hot corners | 14:27 |
| majod | does anyone else have problems with fglrx drivers? | 14:29 |
| majod | i cant get them working, was wondering if that could be this specific distro issue because looks like they work just fine in ubuntu | 14:30 |
| stratus_ss | Sammy --> i really havent had problems with extensions working | 14:31 |
| stratus_ss | sammy --> they seem to do what they are supposed to | 14:31 |
| stratus_ss | majod --> I avoid ATI/AMD based video cards... I have never had a good time with them | 14:32 |
| majod | i did have good time with them last 15 years on windows. | 14:32 |
| stratus_ss | didnt matter the OS it hasnt been a good time for me | 14:34 |
| SammyMouse_ | also....I am having trouble with the Dark theme | 14:42 |
| SammyMouse_ | anyone know how to get it to work on the menu of other applications? IE firefox, IRC client, MUD client, Office | 14:43 |
| SammyMouse_ | anyone? | 14:45 |
| stratus_ss | some of those have to be themed specifically | 14:49 |
| stratus_ss | there are guides about how to theme firefox etc | 14:49 |
| SammyMouse_ | the older OS I used, when I applied a theme, it effected everything | 14:52 |
| stratus_ss | ya i am only vaguely familar to be honest. Some of the podcasts I listen to have talked about it | 14:53 |
| stratus_ss | specifically firefox | 14:53 |
| stratus_ss | but since i dont really do that, i never really paid attention | 14:53 |
| majod | anyone using fglrx drivers? im suspecting theyre not working with gnome shell? | 17:07 |
| sysroot | majod, they're running fine here | 17:18 |
| sysroot | ubuntu 14.04 + fglrx | 17:18 |
| sysroot | and gnome-shell | 17:18 |
| majod | sysroot: thanks, just wanted to be sure | 17:18 |
| majod | mine suck. | 17:19 |
| sysroot | okay, you're welcome | 17:19 |
| sysroot | in ubuntu they're running fine | 17:19 |
| sysroot | but in Fedora, GNOME is not working after the fglrx installation | 17:19 |
| majod | i cant get them working in ubuntu gnome | 17:19 |
| majod | not sure what to do | 17:19 |
| Forage | majod: bit hard to say anything about it if you don't tell us what the problem is | 17:25 |
| majod | Forage: sorry, didnt actually expect anyone to help. i tried 4 forums already without any help, but heres my short story: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?99386-How-to-get-Catalyst-14-4-working-on-Ubuntu-14-04 | 17:26 |
| majod | btw already figured out the hw acceleration so thats not an issue anymore | 17:28 |
| Forage | majod: I'm surprised you got the drivers from amd running on 14.04 in the first place | 17:28 |
| Forage | 14.04 is not supported yet | 17:28 |
| majod | there are tons of catalyst benchmarks on phoronix on trusty so i guess it should be working | 17:29 |
| Forage | and if the open source driver are "awesome", why bother to install amd's in the first place? | 17:29 |
| majod | because i explained in the post. i want them for gaming | 17:29 |
| majod | theyre awesome in desktop | 17:29 |
| sysroot | majod, did you tried installing the fglrx package from the Ubuntu's repositories? | 17:30 |
| sysroot | i installed them and it's just working fine | 17:30 |
| Forage | why did the fglrx drivers from ubuntu's repos suck? | 17:30 |
| Forage | those are working fine for me as well | 17:30 |
| majod | the same reason as the new one | 17:30 |
| sysroot | rene@sysroot:~$ dpkg -l | grep fglrx | 17:30 |
| sysroot | ii fglrx 2:13.350.1-0ubuntu2 amd64 Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators | 17:30 |
| sysroot | ii fglrx-amdcccle 2:13.350.1-0ubuntu2 amd64 Catalyst Control Center for the AMD graphics accelerators | 17:30 |
| sysroot | ii fglrx-pxpress 1:0.2.91.4 amd64 transitional package for ubuntu-drivers-common | 17:30 |
| Forage | I'm waiting for 14.04 support before using amd's fglrx again | 17:31 |
| majod | i installed them from "additional drivers" and did the same thing as 14.4 beta | 17:31 |
| sysroot | Forage, for me they're working fine too | 17:31 |
| sysroot | i am using a hybrid graphics stack | 17:31 |
| sysroot | and everything seems fine | 17:31 |
| majod | is there anything i can debug/look at? | 17:31 |
| majod | to see what the problem is | 17:32 |
| Forage | majod: the problem with which drivers? from amd's website or ubuntu's repos? | 17:34 |
| majod | both | 17:34 |
| majod | neither of them works so... | 17:34 |
| majod | i really have no idea what could go wrong...i installed the OS and the first thing was installing the fglrx | 17:35 |
| Forage | majod: so the issues are the same with both drivers? | 17:36 |
| majod | yes, same issues with both | 17:36 |
| majod | maybe i can try reinstalling the os but im afraid thats just waste of time again | 17:39 |
| Forage | the glitches and tearing sound like problems I had in the past as well. The only thing that fixed it was waiting for AMD to fix their driver. I suspect your card isn't properly supported yet | 17:39 |
| majod | well 7850 has its years... | 17:40 |
| Forage | yeah, unlike GNOME 3.12 | 17:41 |
| majod | ? | 17:41 |
| Forage | AMD's drivers often break with gnome updates | 17:41 |
| majod | oh. | 17:42 |
| Forage | I guess we are lucky with our cards and you aren't. Sorry I can't be more helpful, but based on the issues you describe it sounds like you will have to wait | 17:43 |
| majod | thank you anyway | 17:43 |
| Forage | the HW acceleration issue might be because you haven't installed xvba-va-driver | 17:44 |
| majod | yes, exactly that | 17:44 |
| sysroot | majod, just to know, what's your graphic card model? | 17:44 |
| majod | sysroot: sapphire 7850 | 17:45 |
| majod | 2GB | 17:45 |
| sysroot | mine | 17:45 |
| sysroot | Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Thames [Radeon HD 7550M/7570M/7650M] | 17:45 |
| sysroot | Forage, and yours? | 17:46 |
| majod | well, idk. i guess i only have to wait for miracle in open source drivers... | 17:46 |
| Forage | HD6950 | 17:46 |
| Forage | majod: don't expect changes for the opensource drivers before 14.10 | 17:47 |
| majod | i added oibaf ppa so i have daily updates | 17:47 |
| majod | and updated kernel to 3.14 | 17:47 |
| Forage | ok | 17:47 |
| Forage | AMD supporting new ubuntu releases often takes at least 2-3 months, but fixes for gnome shell could take more then a year (based on past experience) | 17:49 |
| majod | i will keep trying new versions of catalyst | 17:49 |
| majod | its painful to always revert back to 3.13 kernel, but worth trying :) | 17:49 |
| Forage | do make sure you properly remove the drivers when switching back to the open source drivers | 17:50 |
| Forage | otherwise you might get issues there as well | 17:50 |
| majod | too bad gpu drivers are still so bad on linux | 17:51 |
| majod | i think thats the biggest issue on linux desktops usually | 17:51 |
| Forage | they have made a lot of progress in the last 1-2 year, closed as well as open source | 17:52 |
| Forage | at least speed-wise, not feature-wise unfortunately | 17:52 |
| Forage | valve is a big motivation as well | 17:53 |
| majod | yeah i read a lot before migrating to linux so i was really hoping for the best...well its not so bad with open source drivers, but the game performance is sometimes much much worse than i used to have on windows... | 17:53 |
| Forage | An issue I raised yesterday as well: | 18:12 |
| Forage | I'm a bit confused about the staging ppa. Should the other 2 ppa's be enabled as well when using staging with 14.04? | 18:12 |
| Forage | I enabled all 3 ppa's and installed all updates. Tracker, however, was having some issues and because of it I noticed I've got 0.16 as well as 1.0 installed now. The former available in the stable ppa, the latter available in the staging ppa. | 18:12 |
| Forage | should the 0.16 version be deleted or can and should they coexist? | 18:12 |
| stratus_ss | tracker changed its naming convention i believe | 18:22 |
| stratus_ss | the problem is that there was problems with their naming that caused issues with package deps | 18:23 |
| stratus_ss | so it could very well remove things you didnt intend if you move one version or the other | 18:24 |
| Forage | stratus_ss: ok, removed all 0.16 packages | 18:46 |
| Forage | stratus_ss: no other packages complained about depending on them | 18:47 |
| stratus_ss | what packages did you install from which repo? | 18:48 |
| Forage | I didn't install any specific packages, I updated from 13.10 to 14.04 which gave me tracker 0.16, with the staging ppa 1.0 was added | 18:49 |
| stratus_ss | staging (which is the 3.11/3.12) has the tracker 1.0 | 18:49 |
| stratus_ss | the gnome 3 stable ppa has the apps that depend on 0.16.4 | 18:49 |
| stratus_ss | ya so there is a possibility that functionality may be missing | 18:50 |
| stratus_ss | in some | 18:50 |
| stratus_ss | so for exaple (i am just going off the top of my head) | 18:50 |
| stratus_ss | if you had bijiben 3.10 and it has a build dep of tracker 0.16.4, it wont necessarily rip out bijiben | 18:51 |
| stratus_ss | but bijiben may have some missing functionality | 18:51 |
| Forage | rats | 18:51 |
| stratus_ss | darkxst knows this stuff a lot better than i do | 18:51 |
| stratus_ss | I have only been working with him since december | 18:51 |
| stratus_ss | so I am still super green | 18:51 |
| Forage | luckily I don't have bijiben, but I'll check on the other stable packages | 18:52 |
| stratus_ss | if you are curious at all, you can do an apt-get source <package name> | 18:53 |
| stratus_ss | then you look in the debian/control (or control.in) file | 18:53 |
| stratus_ss | this will tell you package dependencies and versions (if there is a specific version required | 18:53 |
| Forage | on tracker or packages possibly using tracker? | 18:53 |
| stratus_ss | packages possibly using tracker | 18:54 |
| Forage | gnome-system-monitor is the only trusty package in stable not in staging | 18:55 |
| stratus_ss | its quite possible that you will be fine then | 18:56 |
| Forage | but that doesn't mean there aren't any packages in the other repositories that require 0.16 of course... | 18:56 |
| stratus_ss | dont take my word as gospel truth though | 18:56 |
| stratus_ss | i just help out with the packaging | 18:56 |
| stratus_ss | in the gnome3 ppa | 18:56 |
| Forage | the staging ppa description should need an update | 18:57 |
| Forage | "To use this PPA, you should enable the main GNOME3 PPA and gnome3-next PPA (Saucy only) too." | 18:57 |
| stratus_ss | ya Tim is really busy | 18:57 |
| Forage | but that line is from before trusty, so you can't tell if it applies to trusty or not | 18:57 |
| stratus_ss | you can file a bug if you like | 18:57 |
| stratus_ss | ya i understand your meaning :) | 18:58 |
| stratus_ss | i mean file a bug to get the ppa changed | 18:58 |
| Forage | yeah | 18:59 |
| stratus_ss | I dont think i have rights to change that | 18:59 |
| Forage | I don't have an option to file a bug in the ppa bugs section | 18:59 |
| Forage | I always get lost in launchpad :-S | 19:00 |
| stratus_ss | ya i am not super awsome at it... i actually always navigate from my 'home' screen | 19:01 |
| Forage | is contacting the team's admin acceptable? | 19:01 |
| stratus_ss | I dont know why not (though I am not the the official voice :) ) | 19:01 |
| Forage | done | 19:05 |
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