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amigamagicbugfix included :)00:04
knomei'm off not00:21
knome*now00:21
knomei will be back on saturday night, no internets for me tomorrow :)00:22
knomehave fun!00:22
amigamagicsee you knome00:28
Unit193Logan_: Here, bored, and ready to break utopic?00:57
Logan_Unit193: always!01:37
Logan_Unit193: but later - I'm working on an NLP project at the moment01:38
Unit193Logan_: I have a dsc, debdiff, and lp branch ready for an irker merge, want to upload? (Err, this isn't Xubuntu...)01:38
Unit193Logan_: Ah, cool.  Have fun? :P01:38
Logan_lol01:39
bluesabre:)01:50
Unit193bluesabre: Got to give them options! :P01:52
bluesabreof course01:52
bluesabrethen they can't ignore you :>01:52
Unit193Meh, it's not high priority IMO, so he can ignore all he wants.01:53
Logan_Unit193: I'm back03:21
Unit193Do well?03:21
Logan_yeah, my group is making pretty good progress03:22
Logan_we're number two on the leaderboard for sentiment predictions :P03:22
Logan_but I won't bore you with that03:22
Unit193Yes, don't bore me with sentiment! :P03:23
Unit193https://sigma.unit193.net/source/irker.debdiff <<< That's to the Debian package, or https://sigma.unit193.net/source/irker_2.7+dfsg-1ubuntu1.dsc if you prefer.03:23
Logan_also, I just discovered that I'm the 14th overall top contributor to Ubuntu: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+topcontributors03:23
Logan_I don't know if I should be concerned or not03:23
Unit193Depends if you push a load of crap in. ;)03:24
Unit193Hah, of course Pitti would be on top03:24
Unit193(I'm more happy not being in that list, honestly.)03:25
Logan_hmm, aren't we going to have systemd in utopia?03:26
Logan_er03:26
Logan_utopic03:27
Unit193As an option, yes.  Want to leave it in then?  It won't build now, and I was kind of thinking trusty at the time (wasn't updated for trusty at all, poor package.)03:28
Logan_hmm, maybe let's wait a bit on this, then03:29
Logan_updating now would be somewhat silly, given the circumstances (the archive is not really open, and we will have systemd shortly)03:29
Unit193Righty-o.  I'll find somehting else for you.03:29
Logan_although the archive being in limbo has not stopped me from uploading stuff, of course :P03:30
Unit193I don't think I have any other updates that don't deserv only talked about in -ot, so there we go.03:31
Unit193Logan_: Just wondering here, but Ubuntu have the same stance on waf?03:34
Logan_we're definitely not as strict about it as Debian is03:35
Logan_like, Debian prohibits uploading of packages with waf binaries, and I don't think we do03:35
Logan_but the stance is probably the same (they should be unpacked)03:36
Unit193Hmm..  I've been using thunar-dropbox-plugin since quantal, and I think the main thing holding it back might be waf, IIRC.03:37
Unit193Anyway, I think I'll leave you alone now. :)03:37
Logan_lol, I don't mind talking :P03:37
Logan_I do have better things to do, but I don't care to do them03:38
Logan_A+ student right here :P03:38
Unit193Remember, I'm the crazy one that tends to create his own repository, so I try to limit that talk in here and only do as requested.03:38
Unit193Had a friend like that, terrible work ethic, but A+ unless he forgot to turn in his work.03:39
Unit193Logan_: OK, one last dumb one.  Chance screen will get sync'd from exp?  (Dangit I need an offtopic channel to bother you in...)03:52
Logan_##logan works03:52
Logan_or you can PM me :P03:52
ochosicraaap, small bug in our icons :'(07:26
elfyoops07:29
ochosifixed in git. phew.07:34
amigamagichi all09:02
ochosihi09:06
amigamagicochosi, have you tried that mod for the taskbar plugin?09:24
ochosihaven't had time yet09:34
brainwashelfy: bug 131264110:58
ubottubug 1312641 in thunar-volman (Ubuntu) "Removable drives and media do not automatically mounted at boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131264110:58
brainwashyou should be able to confirm this10:58
brainwashbut it might be the expected behavior10:59
amigamagicbrainwash, I don't know if it's the same issue but I can confirm that if you connect a second hdd that wasn't there when you installed xubuntu, the device is not auto-mounted, but on the desktop you will see the icon to mount it11:42
amigamagicI had to mod the fstab to mount it permanently at each boot11:42
amigamagicfrom a linux administrator point of view, I think this is the right behaviour, because it's the administrator that should choice what and where mount something at the boot11:43
amigamagicbut from a simple user perspective, it could be perceived as a bug11:43
brainwashright, it's not clear how to handle this11:45
amigamagicI think the best thing would be to let the user (with administrative privileges) choose what do when the system detects a change in the devices, and then don't bother him anymore11:46
brainwashmaybe someone could check what gnome/unity does11:46
amigamagicsomething like: "Detected a new device connected to your PC. Do you want to mount it permanently at each boot? YES/NO"11:47
amigamagicit would be nice, but maybe I'm asking too much...11:47
brainwashmmh, not sure about that11:47
brainwashkeep it simple11:48
amigamagicof course, I'm talking about devices connected directly to the motherboard11:48
brainwashso not removable devices?11:48
amigamagicusually you don't want to permanently connect a removible device like a pendrive11:49
amigamagicbut each user has its own needs...11:49
brainwashthe important thing is that auto mounting works better now in 14.0411:50
amigamagicI don't know, being that xubuntu 14.04 it's my first try in xubuntu world. :)11:51
amigamagicI think that now, if you insert a pendrive, this will be automounted and a thunar window will open11:55
amigamagicI like this11:56
amigamagicbut what happens if you insert a pendrive and then reboot?11:56
brainwashyes, this is the scenario we are trying to understand :)12:00
brainwashbut the current behavior should be the expected one (no auto mount on boot/reboot)12:01
ochosiknome: we could add some captions to the images in the screenshot page12:30
ochosiand centering them instead of left-aligning could be nice, too12:32
elfyochosi: I'm itching to get the QA recap blog post out - is the lightlocker one going to be long ?12:54
TravisHello13:53
TravisI've noticed one thing about Xubuntu 14.04 & my Panasonic CF-29 Toughbook:  When I close the lid, the screen won't come back on after opening the lid.13:54
GridCubeTravis, a very usual bug im afraid13:59
GridCubeTravis, bug #130373614:00
ubottubug 1303736 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Black screen after login from suspend in Xubuntu 14.04" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130373614:00
Travisok, so no closing the lid unless I shut it down, I guess.14:01
GridCubeTravis, can we move this to #xubuntu , where you can get proper support14:03
Travisaye14:03
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elfybrainwash: as expected - a usb plugged into machine when it boots is not mounted - never seen it do anything different, though that's not to say it's the 'expected' behaviour - what that is I don't know17:53
brainwashelfy: thanks for confirming this :)17:54
andrzejrre my question in #xubuntu... on 14.04 wake up seems to be equivalent to inserting SD card. So every time I wake up my laptop I get a brand new thunar window showing the contents of SD card inserted into a slot.18:39
SkippersBossxu wake up has more nasty side effects. xmbc turns into a black screen. wm could be causing trouble. 18:50
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Unit193Noskcaj: Finally looked at the python problem, wasn't incompatible icu like you thought, https://github.com/bear/parsedatetime/commit/51d47dd57a8ac78208aa69015d7e13bdf1bd357421:49
* Unit193 wonders if he should fix locally or try to fix for "others."21:49
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gryknome: is there progress on making the website localizable?23:37

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