[00:04] <amigamagic> bugfix included :)
[00:21] <knome> i'm off not
[00:21] <knome> *now
[00:22] <knome> i will be back on saturday night, no internets for me tomorrow :)
[00:22] <knome> have fun!
[00:28] <amigamagic> see you knome
[00:57] <Unit193> Logan_: Here, bored, and ready to break utopic?
[01:37] <Logan_> Unit193: always!
[01:38] <Logan_> Unit193: but later - I'm working on an NLP project at the moment
[01:38] <Unit193> Logan_: I have a dsc, debdiff, and lp branch ready for an irker merge, want to upload? (Err, this isn't Xubuntu...)
[01:38] <Unit193> Logan_: Ah, cool.  Have fun? :P
[01:39] <Logan_> lol
[01:50] <bluesabre> :)
[01:52] <Unit193> bluesabre: Got to give them options! :P
[01:52] <bluesabre> of course
[01:52] <bluesabre> then they can't ignore you :>
[01:53] <Unit193> Meh, it's not high priority IMO, so he can ignore all he wants.
[03:21] <Logan_> Unit193: I'm back
[03:21] <Unit193> Do well?
[03:22] <Logan_> yeah, my group is making pretty good progress
[03:22] <Logan_> we're number two on the leaderboard for sentiment predictions :P
[03:22] <Logan_> but I won't bore you with that
[03:23] <Unit193> Yes, don't bore me with sentiment! :P
[03:23] <Unit193> https://sigma.unit193.net/source/irker.debdiff <<< That's to the Debian package, or https://sigma.unit193.net/source/irker_2.7+dfsg-1ubuntu1.dsc if you prefer.
[03:23] <Logan_> also, I just discovered that I'm the 14th overall top contributor to Ubuntu: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+topcontributors
[03:23] <Logan_> I don't know if I should be concerned or not
[03:24] <Unit193> Depends if you push a load of crap in. ;)
[03:24] <Unit193> Hah, of course Pitti would be on top
[03:25] <Unit193> (I'm more happy not being in that list, honestly.)
[03:26] <Logan_> hmm, aren't we going to have systemd in utopia?
[03:26] <Logan_> er
[03:27] <Logan_> utopic
[03:28] <Unit193> As an option, yes.  Want to leave it in then?  It won't build now, and I was kind of thinking trusty at the time (wasn't updated for trusty at all, poor package.)
[03:29] <Logan_> hmm, maybe let's wait a bit on this, then
[03:29] <Logan_> updating now would be somewhat silly, given the circumstances (the archive is not really open, and we will have systemd shortly)
[03:29] <Unit193> Righty-o.  I'll find somehting else for you.
[03:30] <Logan_> although the archive being in limbo has not stopped me from uploading stuff, of course :P
[03:31] <Unit193> I don't think I have any other updates that don't deserv only talked about in -ot, so there we go.
[03:34] <Unit193> Logan_: Just wondering here, but Ubuntu have the same stance on waf?
[03:35] <Logan_> we're definitely not as strict about it as Debian is
[03:35] <Logan_> like, Debian prohibits uploading of packages with waf binaries, and I don't think we do
[03:36] <Logan_> but the stance is probably the same (they should be unpacked)
[03:37] <Unit193> Hmm..  I've been using thunar-dropbox-plugin since quantal, and I think the main thing holding it back might be waf, IIRC.
[03:37] <Unit193> Anyway, I think I'll leave you alone now. :)
[03:37] <Logan_> lol, I don't mind talking :P
[03:38] <Logan_> I do have better things to do, but I don't care to do them
[03:38] <Logan_> A+ student right here :P
[03:38] <Unit193> Remember, I'm the crazy one that tends to create his own repository, so I try to limit that talk in here and only do as requested.
[03:39] <Unit193> Had a friend like that, terrible work ethic, but A+ unless he forgot to turn in his work.
[03:52] <Unit193> Logan_: OK, one last dumb one.  Chance screen will get sync'd from exp?  (Dangit I need an offtopic channel to bother you in...)
[03:52] <Logan_> ##logan works
[03:52] <Logan_> or you can PM me :P
[07:26] <ochosi> craaap, small bug in our icons :'(
[07:29] <elfy> oops
[07:34] <ochosi> fixed in git. phew.
[09:02] <amigamagic> hi all
[09:06] <ochosi> hi
[09:24] <amigamagic> ochosi, have you tried that mod for the taskbar plugin?
[09:34] <ochosi> haven't had time yet
[10:58] <brainwash> elfy: bug 1312641
[10:58] <brainwash> you should be able to confirm this
[10:59] <brainwash> but it might be the expected behavior
[11:42] <amigamagic> brainwash, I don't know if it's the same issue but I can confirm that if you connect a second hdd that wasn't there when you installed xubuntu, the device is not auto-mounted, but on the desktop you will see the icon to mount it
[11:42] <amigamagic> I had to mod the fstab to mount it permanently at each boot
[11:43] <amigamagic> from a linux administrator point of view, I think this is the right behaviour, because it's the administrator that should choice what and where mount something at the boot
[11:43] <amigamagic> but from a simple user perspective, it could be perceived as a bug
[11:45] <brainwash> right, it's not clear how to handle this
[11:46] <amigamagic> I think the best thing would be to let the user (with administrative privileges) choose what do when the system detects a change in the devices, and then don't bother him anymore
[11:46] <brainwash> maybe someone could check what gnome/unity does
[11:47] <amigamagic> something like: "Detected a new device connected to your PC. Do you want to mount it permanently at each boot? YES/NO"
[11:47] <amigamagic> it would be nice, but maybe I'm asking too much...
[11:47] <brainwash> mmh, not sure about that
[11:48] <brainwash> keep it simple
[11:48] <amigamagic> of course, I'm talking about devices connected directly to the motherboard
[11:48] <brainwash> so not removable devices?
[11:49] <amigamagic> usually you don't want to permanently connect a removible device like a pendrive
[11:49] <amigamagic> but each user has its own needs...
[11:50] <brainwash> the important thing is that auto mounting works better now in 14.04
[11:51] <amigamagic> I don't know, being that xubuntu 14.04 it's my first try in xubuntu world. :)
[11:55] <amigamagic> I think that now, if you insert a pendrive, this will be automounted and a thunar window will open
[11:56] <amigamagic> I like this
[11:56] <amigamagic> but what happens if you insert a pendrive and then reboot?
[12:00] <brainwash> yes, this is the scenario we are trying to understand :)
[12:01] <brainwash> but the current behavior should be the expected one (no auto mount on boot/reboot)
[12:30] <ochosi> knome: we could add some captions to the images in the screenshot page
[12:32] <ochosi> and centering them instead of left-aligning could be nice, too
[12:54] <elfy> ochosi: I'm itching to get the QA recap blog post out - is the lightlocker one going to be long ?
[13:53] <Travis> Hello
[13:54] <Travis> I've noticed one thing about Xubuntu 14.04 & my Panasonic CF-29 Toughbook:  When I close the lid, the screen won't come back on after opening the lid.
[13:59] <GridCube> Travis, a very usual bug im afraid
[14:00] <GridCube> Travis, bug #1303736
[14:01] <Travis> ok, so no closing the lid unless I shut it down, I guess.
[14:03] <GridCube> Travis, can we move this to #xubuntu , where you can get proper support
[14:03] <Travis> aye
[17:53] <elfy> brainwash: as expected - a usb plugged into machine when it boots is not mounted - never seen it do anything different, though that's not to say it's the 'expected' behaviour - what that is I don't know
[17:54] <brainwash> elfy: thanks for confirming this :)
[18:39] <andrzejr> re my question in #xubuntu... on 14.04 wake up seems to be equivalent to inserting SD card. So every time I wake up my laptop I get a brand new thunar window showing the contents of SD card inserted into a slot.
[18:50] <SkippersBoss> xu wake up has more nasty side effects. xmbc turns into a black screen. wm could be causing trouble. 
[21:49] <Unit193> Noskcaj: Finally looked at the python problem, wasn't incompatible icu like you thought, https://github.com/bear/parsedatetime/commit/51d47dd57a8ac78208aa69015d7e13bdf1bd3574
[21:49]  * Unit193 wonders if he should fix locally or try to fix for "others."
[23:37] <gry> knome: is there progress on making the website localizable?