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gryhi, kupo_00:24
kupo_hello gry02:00
xubuntuUserHola gente, necesito ayuda. Como puedo reestablecer los iconos del area de notificaciones? solo tengo el icono del bluetooth, el de red y energĂ­a desaparecieron. Gracias.02:46
p1roxubuntuUser, los puedes agregar manualmente creo02:48
xubuntuUserHola, gracias por contestar. Ya lo e agregado manualmente y solo aparece el icono del bluetooth.02:50
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SparkTheCathi i got some weird behiviour on the xfce4 panel (32bit) some indicator are double some does not work04:42
rc10iirc indicator plugin crashing over and over in xfce is a confirmed bug at the moment04:44
SparkTheCatbut double bluetooth indicator ? and keyboard indicator ? and i do not have 2 indicator on the panel04:45
lunaZowhy is my wallpaper turn grey old when pick new wallpaper07:11
lunaZostill grey07:20
M17KHi ?09:36
gryhi!09:37
M17Knice to meet you all .09:37
grylikewise09:37
M17Kty09:37
bastinenz_hey everybody, I just noticed that after upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 my Synaptic Package Manager isn't working correctly. Most of the interface doesn't show up, some buttons and the search field do whenever I hover over them, but it's really not usable. when starting from console, I get all kinds of GTK warnings. Any hints on what to do?10:10
brainwashbastinenz_: file a bug report, simply run "ubuntu-bug synaptic"10:14
silv3r_m00nis there something like a small command box which can popup on the desktop, and run whatever command is typed in ?10:30
silv3r_m00nsomething like the krunner of kde10:30
gryyou can add such box to the toolbars if you like (I don't know how to add it to desktop area itself)10:35
grys/toolbars/panels/10:35
brainwashsilv3r_m00n: try alt+F210:40
brainwashusually it opens xfce4-appfinder10:41
m6Hi! Is it generally "safe" to upgrade 13.10 to 14.04?11:10
m6It's my work laptop so if there's a chance of things not going right I'd rather do it when I have more time to look into it11:11
brainwashm6: create a backup of your current system, then you are safe to upgrade to 14.0411:11
m6brainwash: sure thing; I guess I try upgrading it anyway, I have whole tomorrow to figure out things if something goes wrong :)11:13
m6Is it worrisome that when upgrading release notes state that "This release is still in development. Do not install it on production machines."?11:37
m6I did `update-manager -d` and clicked "upgrade"11:37
cfhowlettm6 be professional, backup your data and have to plan to restore, reinstall and recreate your entire system.  (Just in case)11:38
m6oh, sorry; that's exactly what -d does..11:38
m6cfhowlett: I did11:38
m6Just followed tutorial from web and didn't stop to think what -d meant in update-manager...11:39
azimsguys.. any GUI for theming Whisker Menu?11:43
usagehi all, how do you change the keybord shortcut mapping for applications in Xubuntu ?11:48
usage(more specific the shortcuts in the terminal application)11:49
usageanybody ? I can't understand why I can't find any documentation about this !!11:54
brainwashusage: maybe http://docs.xfce.org/faq11:55
m6well that was a smooth upgrade, love the new wallpaper :)12:05
usagebrainwash, thanks, but I just don't understand what they want me to do ?  nothing happens if I hover over menu items and type a shortkey.12:06
usagethey then write I might need to "Editable menu accelerators" in "Editable menu accelerators".  where can I find this menu ?12:06
m6usage: Settings manager -> appearance -> settings12:07
usagem6,  unbelievable how mush time I spent on this !!!  thanks a lot12:09
usage*mush  much12:09
Meerkatis the article about xubuntu up yet? The one with on why xscreensaver was replaced.13:58
brainwashMeerkat: not yet14:00
lazar!proxy14:29
ubottuSeveral Ubuntu channels prohibit access from open proxies and other anonymous connections due to a high level of abuse. The supported ways to hide your IP address on freenode are to use !Tor or get a !cloak14:29
lazarguys, how to setup system wide proxy14:29
lazar?14:29
lazari found it14:33
lazarubproxy14:33
lazarthanks14:33
lazaranyway :D14:33
endoYou can still use proxies. You just can't use major VPN services or Tor, etc.15:16
siruahoi15:34
sirusorry wrong channel15:35
Unit193!torsasl | Tor is fine.15:48
ubottuTor is fine.: freenode blocks connections from Tor users on its regular servers. Users registered with nickserv can connect to freenode's Tor hidden service instead; see http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml#tor for instructions. For help, ask in #freenode.15:48
kupo_herro16:12
mjahi, guys! Does somebody has the issue with X.org not working after suspend in 14.04? Does it have any fixes yet?16:26
GridCubehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/130373616:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1303736 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Black screen after login from suspend in Xubuntu 14.04" [High,Confirmed]16:28
GridCubemja, ^16:28
mja10x16:29
meek_geekafter suspend or auto lock the screen brightness would not reduce16:38
meek_geekits full16:38
meek_geekyo yo17:00
meek_geekwhat up17:00
holsteinmeek_geek: could be graphics hardware linux support related17:06
meek_geekholstein, I am using prop one17:09
holsteinmeek_geek: so, you have the open one to try, if you like17:10
meek_geekholstein, open one is a bit slow cuz no acceleration17:11
holsteinmeek_geek: but, the other issue is fine?17:11
holsteinmeek_geek: its typical to have to make certain compromises on unsupported hardware17:11
meek_geekholstein, I see that but Xubuntu seems to handle my laptop too well17:12
meek_geekholstein, do you use tor ?17:12
holstein!tor17:12
ubottuTor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl17:12
amigamagictoday the light-locker works on my pc... :-)17:13
meek_geekholstein, actually tor package in the repo ( official ) is not working right17:13
holsteinmeek_geek: ok.. let us know if you have a question about it.. thats more of a statement.. and an assumption17:13
meek_geekholstein, actually the issue is that the tor use to start on every boot up17:17
meek_geekalso when i open vidalia - it says tor address is wrong17:17
holsteinmeek_geek: maybe the address is wrong17:17
holstein!autostart17:17
ubottuTo add programs or scripts to start when logging in, use Applications menu -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Session and Startup -> tab "Application autostart" - See !boot for starting (non-interactive) programs at boot17:18
Unit193"Used to start on every boot up", doesn't now and you want it to?17:18
meek_geek!boot17:18
ubottuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto17:18
Pwnnaanyone experiencing a lot of issues with kernel panics?17:18
Pwnnai'm experiencing multiple per day and i have a couple of pictures17:18
holsteinmeek_geek: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Tor discusses starting at boot, it seems17:18
meek_geekholstein, i did what this guide says but it did not work for me in 1417:19
Unit193Just edit /etc/default/tor17:19
holsteinPwnna: no.. but, you could if you have hardware that is broken, or that doesnt suppport linux.. i would try and troubleshoot for that17:19
Pwnnayeah idk what's wrong exactly17:19
holsteinmeek_geek: sure.. again, thats a statement though.. you'd need to share details.. "i tried this command and this happened".. etc17:19
holsteinPwnna: test what is "wrong".. could be nothing is wrong. you were not guaranteed linux support likely by the manufacturer17:20
Pwnnawell it's a thinkpad. it looks like wifi17:20
holsteinPwnna: i would try different live CD's and a supported operating system to test the hardware, and remove my installed os from the equation. i would test hard drive and ram. i would use a different user, or the guest account to remove my user config from the equation17:21
holsteinPwnna: disable the wife then, and confirm17:21
holsteinlol.. the wifi*17:21
Pwnnait's randomly through out the day17:21
Pwnnalike it's not happening right now17:21
Pwnnawhen i start to compile android it seems more frequent17:22
meek_geekholstein, are u a girl17:22
holsteinmeek_geek: use the #xubuntu-offtopic channel for non support related chat.. thanks!17:26
holsteinPwnna: if you think its wifi, disable the wifi in the bios and test17:27
Pwnnai'm not sure17:27
Pwnnai'm also getting colorful screen sometimes17:27
holsteinPwnna: correct. so, test for it17:27
holsteinPwnna: disable the wifi and test.. then, try a different graphics driver.. see above for other methods to isolate hardware issues and test17:28
Pwnnawell i have intel graphics17:28
holsteinPwnna: so, you have the included intel open driver,a nd the vesa driver... nomodeset from a live CD17:28
holstein!nomodeset17:29
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:29
Pwnnayeah i know those but idk how to trigger them17:31
Pwnnajust got another one. recovered.17:31
holsteinPwnna: from a live CD, you can follow the above guide to boot with nomodeset17:31
Pwnnai can, but idk how to trigger it17:32
holsteinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209 is what i typicaly put in place quickly to test the vesa driver17:32
holsteinPwnna: the guide above explains how to "trigger" it17:32
Pwnnai have multiple panics all showing different reasons, though17:32
holsteinPwnna: you boot a live CD, press shift to show advanced options, and find nomodeset under the F6 menu17:32
holsteinPwnna: when i test for those, i do exactly the steps i outlined above.. i'll disable all unused peripherals in the bios, and remove all usb devices and any other plugged devices17:34
Pwnna3 times in 5 minutes.. all seems to be different reasons?17:35
Pwnnai'll try a live CD in a moment. i wanna see if i can upload the logs17:35
Pwnnayeah. can't even boot17:36
holsteinthe logs can be challenging to decipher, since, this is likely due to hardware either being broken, or not supporting linux17:36
holsteinbut, you dont need to boot to be able to read a log file from the hard drive, if you find that helpful..17:37
Pwnnait's definitely supported17:38
Pwnnai've used this laptop withlinux for like 3-4 years now17:38
Pwnnaholstein: i can't. the logfiles all show NUL everywhere when it panics17:39
Pwnnai switched to a different computer. i have some screenshots. maybe someone can point out where i should focus my efforts on? right now i'm going blind essentially17:39
holsteinPwnna: its actually not.. the manufacturer shipped it with windows, and hired a team of proffessionals to faciliate that support for windows.. not for linux.. it can be challenging to take on that burden of support17:39
Pwnnawell yeah17:39
Pwnnait's thinkpad, which is usually very well supported17:39
Pwnnahttp://i.imgur.com/AOPgl2k.jpg17:39
Pwnnaholstein: any idea what that may be?17:39
holsteinPwnna: sure.. and when its "usually" not, you have no where to go for that help, other than what i am suggesting to you.. self discovery17:40
meek_geekholstein, is there a way to remove ubuntu software center ?17:40
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Pwnnahttp://imgur.com/a/k0asb < a bunch of them17:40
holsteinmeek_geek: a package manager.. though, you dont have to remove it, you can just not use it17:40
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meek_geekholstein, but I have heard it uses a lot of your system's resources ?17:41
recon1just installed 14.04 on my main machine, but I just get a black screen after the initial boot option screen and, I tried in recovery mode and it said there was not a valid kernel image, any suggestions as to what went wrong?17:41
Pwnnaholstein: yeah. but i17:41
holsteinPwnna: sure. and when i have seen those, i do what i suggested. testing hardware.. in some cases, finding a motherboard failure, or a bad ram module.. failing hard drive.. etc17:41
Pwnna'm hoping that other people see this..17:41
Pwnnaokay17:41
holsteinmeek_geek: then, dont use it. but, its not doing anything in the background, though, you can remove it if you like17:41
meek_geekholstein, but all my friends say is I remove it .. it would mess the system17:42
holsteinmeek_geek: then, leave it. thats my argument for suggesting you leave it. so you dont mess anything up.. there is not benifit other than reclaiming a very small amount of hard drive space.. but, do what you like17:44
recon1should i just install again and hope it work this time?17:44
xubuntu244hello everybody17:44
holstein!nomodeset | recon1 might be worth a try from the live CD17:45
ubotturecon1 might be worth a try from the live CD: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:45
recon1hey 244 o/17:45
xubuntu244i have a pb with xubuntu 14.04. i want to switch of or suspend the pc after some time of inactivity. I enabled suspend but get an alert box saying that it is "NOT AUTHORIZED". Can somebody help me on that?17:46
xubuntu244nobody out there to advise?17:49
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rustybiscuitHey! I figured out one that has not been taken, lol17:51
recon1xubuntu244: are you logged in as an admin?17:51
Pwnnahere's another one.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7339207/17:52
recon1failed to get path of  /cow?17:52
xubuntu244no i am logged in as user.17:53
xubuntu244using pm-suspend from console or activating suspend from the logout menu works perfectly. only time triggered suspend does not work.17:55
recon1xubuntu244: really don't know, I suspect you are setting it in the wrong place. it's under power management isn't it?17:57
xubuntu244yes that is where i found it.17:57
recon1xubuntu244: and have you tried googling for a solution?17:58
xubuntu244yes for hours meanwhile17:58
recon1anyway, I'm rebooting, brb hopefully17:58
recon1hmm, was not nomodeset any ways, I'm reinstalling18:12
recon1forgot to set a swap partition!!18:13
SunilJoshihello, how can i start Xbuntu in single user mode, adding "single" in boot options didn't solve the purpose18:22
recon1SunilJoshi: maybe you could try this way https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode18:27
recon1rebooting bbl18:27
b4tm4nis it possible to run a python script in linux on boot that shows  console output?18:37
TheSheepsure18:38
TheSheepwhether you will see the output is another matter18:38
b4tm4nTheSheep, well, that's my real problem18:39
b4tm4nTheSheep, i can get a script to run, but how can i view it's console output18:39
recon1so, doing an install from a usb key does not seem to work :(18:42
bekksrecon1: Because what happens?18:42
recon1kernel panic, kernel not sync'ing18:42
recon1right, going to see if a DVD install will work any beter18:44
bekksBecause of what? It tells you much more18:44
recon1bekks: it suggest trying " init = option " , but little else18:45
bekksrecon1: Can you screenshot it?18:46
recon1and no, it says almost nothing, on a normal boot it just gives a blank screen , in rescue mode I can see it starting to load till I get that kernel panic18:46
recon1I could probably take a picture of it.18:47
recon1be back in a min18:47
Poisoned_Dragonis your usb stick good?18:47
recon1what I'm booting with now18:48
recon1be back in a bit18:50
kupo_hmm simplix theme looks better on larger screen for sure18:59
SunilJoshihello, how can i login to xubuntu14.04 in single user mode, adding "single" in boot options is not helpful..19:12
SunilJoshiI am configuring e4rat..19:12
GridCubeSunilJoshi, what you mean by single user mode?19:14
Poisoned_DragonHe thinks he's using an apple pc.19:14
Poisoned_DragonAlthough, the recovery console would mimic that behavior, I believe.19:15
SunilJoshiPoisoned_Dragon: I am not able to configure e4rat going into recovering mde19:15
GridCubeim not following19:15
SunilJoshiNot able to defrag, it says "defrag mode : locality group"19:16
GridCubedefrag?19:17
GridCubeim really really not understanding what you want to do SunilJoshi19:17
GridCubewhy you need to defrag something?19:17
SunilJoshiGridCube: e4rat19:18
SunilJoshihow-to-cut-your-linux-pcs-boot-time-in-half-with-e4rat19:18
elfySunilJoshi: have you tried adding single after quiet splash by editing the boot line from grub?19:18
elfyand what stops you doing this in recovery mode?19:18
SunilJoshielfy: yups19:19
elfywell it works ok for me in a vm19:19
SunilJoshisudo e4rat-realloc doesnot work as filesystem is in read only mode19:19
elfyso what stops you configuring this in recovery mode?19:19
elfyright - so you need to mount the filesystem in recovery mode first19:19
SunilJoshiok19:20
SunilJoshilike this -> mount -o remount,rw /19:20
elfyI believe so19:20
SunilJoshiFound @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode19:20
elfyyep19:20
* SunilJoshi rebooting.. brb..19:21
recon_lapback, it worked from the DVD , here is an images of the kernel panic https://www.dropbox.com/s/1g1rcmue9z84x8u/20140426_195349.jpg19:31
kupo_Any type of applet that does update icon like mint does?19:32
kupo_for on panel19:32
kupo_most likely not19:32
GridCubeupdate icon?19:32
kupo_yeah. like how mint has one with the green check19:32
GridCubeno idea19:32
GridCubenever used mint19:32
Poisoned_DragonNo, no applet19:33
Poisoned_Dragonthe software updater will let you know. There's no constantly present icon.19:33
recon_lapsudo apt-get update maybe :)19:34
Poisoned_Dragonrecon_lap, there might be an issue with your usb stick.19:34
Poisoned_DragonYou just don't know it.19:34
kupo_yeah i know. just wonmdering. i randomly come across applets i have not known about19:34
Poisoned_Dragonglad it worked with the dvd.19:34
recon_lapPoisoned_Dragon: the usb stick was not pluged in?19:34
Poisoned_DragonI know.19:36
Poisoned_DragonMy point is, the usb install throwing a panic might be related to the stick.19:36
recon_lapanyways, I've got to tweek all the littles things that have gone away now. no brightness control , changing application buttons to horizontal instead of vertical19:36
recon_lapcan i start complaining about the changes now :)19:38
Poisoned_DragonNo good, can't hear you.19:38
Poisoned_Dragoncomplain less, tweak more.19:39
SunilJoshi\o/, that worked for me thanks!! :)19:40
recon_lapI've got to get my shades till I get my brightness control back :)19:41
recon_lapanyways, 2 year with no OS troubles , thank you xubuntu \o/ , couple of days tweeking a small price to pay for getting all the goodies and another 2 years of peace :)19:44
recon_laphmm, brightness applet not working, damn what did i have to fix last time aggh19:53
kupo_what is brightness applet called? I know you can always change it on config file20:02
recon_lapit's in the xfce power tools package20:06
recon_lapcalled brightness app20:06
recon_lapxfce4-power-manager-plugins , oddly not installed by default20:07
recon_lapnow, how do i get my "Button Applet " to show buttons horizontal in a vertical menu, and not change size when there are no windows in the current workspace?20:08
krytarikrecon_lap: Like here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221766020:15
recon_lapkrytarik: thx, thats one of them down :)20:18
recon_lapnow to get the buttons horizontal instead of vertical :)20:18
krytarikrecon_lap: That'd be "Window Menu", rather than "Window Buttons", no?20:23
recon_lapkrytarik: no, it the "window buttons" applet in the toolbar, does not handle being in a vertical toobar very well.20:25
recon_lapkrytarik: there was an option to set the text orientation, just seems to assume that it's in a horizontal toolbar atm.20:26
recon_laphad problems with this 2 years ago as well.20:26
recon_lapthis is what i mean about window buttons https://www.dropbox.com/s/x8o9yvxk05qyx6w/Screenshot-window-buttons.jpg20:39
elfyrecon_lap: you could try deskbar mode instead of vertical - but I don't use window buttons anyway20:42
elfytext is horizontal in deskbar mode - but is too long to read anyway20:42
elfyrecon_lap: what px size do you use in panel?20:43
recon_lapdeskbar mode?20:43
recon_lapelfy: you mean the size of the toolbar?20:44
elfyyep - row size pixels20:44
recon_lap12820:44
elfyhttp://imagebin.org/30764620:45
recon_lapon a 16:9 screen I got plenty of space on the side of the screen and little vertical space20:45
elfythat's deskbar mode at 128px with window buttons and 1 row20:46
recon_lapyes, great, now how do you set it to deskbar mode?20:46
elfyoh - hang on - what version xubuntu is this?20:47
recon_lap14.0420:47
elfypanel prefs - display tab - mode - deskbar - where you'd set it to vertical20:47
recon_lapelfy, thx , that fixed my window buttons, broke my workspace switcher :) , but I should be able to fix that20:49
elfylol20:49
recon_lapgot it after a bit of random clicking on workspace switcher , got a different preferences window !!20:53
elfypreferences and properties :)20:54
recon_lapnow, how did no one think to put the "pictures" folder into the places list in the file manager!!20:54
elfysettings I mean20:54
recon_lappreferences, properties, setting and particularities !!20:55
elfy:)20:55
elfypeculiarities maybe :)20:56
recon_lapseems pictures don't cut it with Document, Downloads, Music and Video, yet it still gets a special folder with an icon. bit inconsistent if you ask me :)20:57
elfywell - Documents, Downloads, Music and Video soon disappear from mine20:59
recon_lapbrb, going to reboot and see if my brightness applet works after adding GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_backlight=vendor"20:59
recon_lapelfy: you can delete them?21:00
elfyyea - right click - remove shortcut21:00
elfyhttp://imagebin.org/30765121:01
recon_lapelfy: but no way to add one?21:03
recon_lapbrb21:04
elfyyea - drag them from the right pane - to the sidebar21:06
elfyand wb21:06
elfyI think you do it with conf files as well21:08
recon_laphaa, relief , takes shades off :)21:08
recon_lapelfy: now why did I not think if dragging the folder in :)21:09
elfy:)21:10
recon_lapok, desktop restored :) looking good (ie the same as it was )21:11
elfy:)21:13
NRDisciplehey everyone, got my color laser printer printing (Samsung CLP-315W) in black and white.  The foo2qpdl instructions say: Now create printer entries for your spooler. Create at least one queue for monochrome, and another queue for color printing.  How do you go about making the printer queues for black and color printing?  thanks!21:25
NRDisciple*facepalm* nvm21:28
NRDiscipledefault set at monochrome, my apologies21:28
ArchimedesHey guys, heartbleed is patched in 14.04 correct? Noticed it was using then vulnerable version of ssl but imagining it's fixed?22:41
krytarikArchimedes: Yep, see here: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1f-1ubuntu2/changelog22:43
Archimedeskrytarik: Thank you22:44
recon_lapthought the heartbleed issue was a server deal only22:45
Unit193recon_lap: Some strange attack methods can include client side.22:46
Archimedescan Nautilus be used in Xubuntu?23:11

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