[00:24] <gry> hi, kupo_
[02:00] <kupo_> hello gry
[02:46] <xubuntuUser> Hola gente, necesito ayuda. Como puedo reestablecer los iconos del area de notificaciones? solo tengo el icono del bluetooth, el de red y energía desaparecieron. Gracias.
[02:48] <p1ro> xubuntuUser, los puedes agregar manualmente creo
[02:50] <xubuntuUser> Hola, gracias por contestar. Ya lo e agregado manualmente y solo aparece el icono del bluetooth.
[04:42] <SparkTheCat> hi i got some weird behiviour on the xfce4 panel (32bit) some indicator are double some does not work
[04:44] <rc10> iirc indicator plugin crashing over and over in xfce is a confirmed bug at the moment
[04:45] <SparkTheCat> but double bluetooth indicator ? and keyboard indicator ? and i do not have 2 indicator on the panel
[07:11] <lunaZo> why is my wallpaper turn grey old when pick new wallpaper
[07:20] <lunaZo> still grey
[09:36] <M17K> Hi ?
[09:37] <gry> hi!
[09:37] <M17K> nice to meet you all .
[09:37] <gry> likewise
[09:37] <M17K> ty
[10:10] <bastinenz_> hey everybody, I just noticed that after upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 my Synaptic Package Manager isn't working correctly. Most of the interface doesn't show up, some buttons and the search field do whenever I hover over them, but it's really not usable. when starting from console, I get all kinds of GTK warnings. Any hints on what to do?
[10:14] <brainwash> bastinenz_: file a bug report, simply run "ubuntu-bug synaptic"
[10:30] <silv3r_m00n> is there something like a small command box which can popup on the desktop, and run whatever command is typed in ?
[10:30] <silv3r_m00n> something like the krunner of kde
[10:35] <gry> you can add such box to the toolbars if you like (I don't know how to add it to desktop area itself)
[10:35] <gry> s/toolbars/panels/
[10:40] <brainwash> silv3r_m00n: try alt+F2
[10:41] <brainwash> usually it opens xfce4-appfinder
[11:10] <m6> Hi! Is it generally "safe" to upgrade 13.10 to 14.04?
[11:11] <m6> It's my work laptop so if there's a chance of things not going right I'd rather do it when I have more time to look into it
[11:11] <brainwash> m6: create a backup of your current system, then you are safe to upgrade to 14.04
[11:13] <m6> brainwash: sure thing; I guess I try upgrading it anyway, I have whole tomorrow to figure out things if something goes wrong :)
[11:37] <m6> Is it worrisome that when upgrading release notes state that "This release is still in development. Do not install it on production machines."?
[11:37] <m6> I did `update-manager -d` and clicked "upgrade"
[11:38] <cfhowlett> m6 be professional, backup your data and have to plan to restore, reinstall and recreate your entire system.  (Just in case)
[11:38] <m6> oh, sorry; that's exactly what -d does..
[11:38] <m6> cfhowlett: I did
[11:39] <m6> Just followed tutorial from web and didn't stop to think what -d meant in update-manager...
[11:43] <azims> guys.. any GUI for theming Whisker Menu?
[11:48] <usage> hi all, how do you change the keybord shortcut mapping for applications in Xubuntu ?
[11:49] <usage> (more specific the shortcuts in the terminal application)
[11:54] <usage> anybody ? I can't understand why I can't find any documentation about this !!
[11:55] <brainwash> usage: maybe http://docs.xfce.org/faq
[12:05] <m6> well that was a smooth upgrade, love the new wallpaper :)
[12:06] <usage> brainwash, thanks, but I just don't understand what they want me to do ?  nothing happens if I hover over menu items and type a shortkey.
[12:06] <usage> they then write I might need to "Editable menu accelerators" in "Editable menu accelerators".  where can I find this menu ?
[12:07] <m6> usage: Settings manager -> appearance -> settings
[12:09] <usage> m6,  unbelievable how mush time I spent on this !!!  thanks a lot
[12:09] <usage> *mush  much
[13:58] <Meerkat> is the article about xubuntu up yet? The one with on why xscreensaver was replaced.
[14:00] <brainwash> Meerkat: not yet
[14:29] <lazar> !proxy
[14:29] <lazar> guys, how to setup system wide proxy
[14:29] <lazar> ?
[14:33] <lazar> i found it
[14:33] <lazar> ubproxy
[14:33] <lazar> thanks
[14:33] <lazar> anyway :D
[15:16] <endo> You can still use proxies. You just can't use major VPN services or Tor, etc.
[15:34] <siru> ahoi
[15:35] <siru> sorry wrong channel
[15:48] <Unit193> !torsasl | Tor is fine.
[16:12] <kupo_> herro
[16:26] <mja> hi, guys! Does somebody has the issue with X.org not working after suspend in 14.04? Does it have any fixes yet?
[16:28] <GridCube> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1303736
[16:28] <GridCube> mja, ^
[16:29] <mja> 10x
[16:38] <meek_geek> after suspend or auto lock the screen brightness would not reduce
[16:38] <meek_geek> its full
[17:00] <meek_geek> yo yo
[17:00] <meek_geek> what up
[17:06] <holstein> meek_geek: could be graphics hardware linux support related
[17:09] <meek_geek> holstein, I am using prop one
[17:10] <holstein> meek_geek: so, you have the open one to try, if you like
[17:11] <meek_geek> holstein, open one is a bit slow cuz no acceleration
[17:11] <holstein> meek_geek: but, the other issue is fine?
[17:11] <holstein> meek_geek: its typical to have to make certain compromises on unsupported hardware
[17:12] <meek_geek> holstein, I see that but Xubuntu seems to handle my laptop too well
[17:12] <meek_geek> holstein, do you use tor ?
[17:12] <holstein> !tor
[17:13] <amigamagic> today the light-locker works on my pc... :-)
[17:13] <meek_geek> holstein, actually tor package in the repo ( official ) is not working right
[17:13] <holstein> meek_geek: ok.. let us know if you have a question about it.. thats more of a statement.. and an assumption
[17:17] <meek_geek> holstein, actually the issue is that the tor use to start on every boot up
[17:17] <meek_geek> also when i open vidalia - it says tor address is wrong
[17:17] <holstein> meek_geek: maybe the address is wrong
[17:17] <holstein> !autostart
[17:18] <Unit193> "Used to start on every boot up", doesn't now and you want it to?
[17:18] <meek_geek> !boot
[17:18] <Pwnna> anyone experiencing a lot of issues with kernel panics?
[17:18] <Pwnna> i'm experiencing multiple per day and i have a couple of pictures
[17:18] <holstein> meek_geek: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Tor discusses starting at boot, it seems
[17:19] <meek_geek> holstein, i did what this guide says but it did not work for me in 14
[17:19] <Unit193> Just edit /etc/default/tor
[17:19] <holstein> Pwnna: no.. but, you could if you have hardware that is broken, or that doesnt suppport linux.. i would try and troubleshoot for that
[17:19] <Pwnna> yeah idk what's wrong exactly
[17:19] <holstein> meek_geek: sure.. again, thats a statement though.. you'd need to share details.. "i tried this command and this happened".. etc
[17:20] <holstein> Pwnna: test what is "wrong".. could be nothing is wrong. you were not guaranteed linux support likely by the manufacturer
[17:20] <Pwnna> well it's a thinkpad. it looks like wifi
[17:21] <holstein> Pwnna: i would try different live CD's and a supported operating system to test the hardware, and remove my installed os from the equation. i would test hard drive and ram. i would use a different user, or the guest account to remove my user config from the equation
[17:21] <holstein> Pwnna: disable the wife then, and confirm
[17:21] <holstein> lol.. the wifi*
[17:21] <Pwnna> it's randomly through out the day
[17:21] <Pwnna> like it's not happening right now
[17:22] <Pwnna> when i start to compile android it seems more frequent
[17:22] <meek_geek> holstein, are u a girl
[17:26] <holstein> meek_geek: use the #xubuntu-offtopic channel for non support related chat.. thanks!
[17:27] <holstein> Pwnna: if you think its wifi, disable the wifi in the bios and test
[17:27] <Pwnna> i'm not sure
[17:27] <Pwnna> i'm also getting colorful screen sometimes
[17:27] <holstein> Pwnna: correct. so, test for it
[17:28] <holstein> Pwnna: disable the wifi and test.. then, try a different graphics driver.. see above for other methods to isolate hardware issues and test
[17:28] <Pwnna> well i have intel graphics
[17:28] <holstein> Pwnna: so, you have the included intel open driver,a nd the vesa driver... nomodeset from a live CD
[17:29] <holstein> !nomodeset
[17:31] <Pwnna> yeah i know those but idk how to trigger them
[17:31] <Pwnna> just got another one. recovered.
[17:31] <holstein> Pwnna: from a live CD, you can follow the above guide to boot with nomodeset
[17:32] <Pwnna> i can, but idk how to trigger it
[17:32] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209 is what i typicaly put in place quickly to test the vesa driver
[17:32] <holstein> Pwnna: the guide above explains how to "trigger" it
[17:32] <Pwnna> i have multiple panics all showing different reasons, though
[17:32] <holstein> Pwnna: you boot a live CD, press shift to show advanced options, and find nomodeset under the F6 menu
[17:34] <holstein> Pwnna: when i test for those, i do exactly the steps i outlined above.. i'll disable all unused peripherals in the bios, and remove all usb devices and any other plugged devices
[17:35] <Pwnna> 3 times in 5 minutes.. all seems to be different reasons?
[17:35] <Pwnna> i'll try a live CD in a moment. i wanna see if i can upload the logs
[17:36] <Pwnna> yeah. can't even boot
[17:36] <holstein> the logs can be challenging to decipher, since, this is likely due to hardware either being broken, or not supporting linux
[17:37] <holstein> but, you dont need to boot to be able to read a log file from the hard drive, if you find that helpful..
[17:38] <Pwnna> it's definitely supported
[17:38] <Pwnna> i've used this laptop withlinux for like 3-4 years now
[17:39] <Pwnna> holstein: i can't. the logfiles all show NUL everywhere when it panics
[17:39] <Pwnna> i switched to a different computer. i have some screenshots. maybe someone can point out where i should focus my efforts on? right now i'm going blind essentially
[17:39] <holstein> Pwnna: its actually not.. the manufacturer shipped it with windows, and hired a team of proffessionals to faciliate that support for windows.. not for linux.. it can be challenging to take on that burden of support
[17:39] <Pwnna> well yeah
[17:39] <Pwnna> it's thinkpad, which is usually very well supported
[17:39] <Pwnna> http://i.imgur.com/AOPgl2k.jpg
[17:39] <Pwnna> holstein: any idea what that may be?
[17:40] <holstein> Pwnna: sure.. and when its "usually" not, you have no where to go for that help, other than what i am suggesting to you.. self discovery
[17:40] <meek_geek> holstein, is there a way to remove ubuntu software center ?
[17:40] <Pwnna> http://imgur.com/a/k0asb < a bunch of them
[17:40] <holstein> meek_geek: a package manager.. though, you dont have to remove it, you can just not use it
[17:41] <meek_geek> holstein, but I have heard it uses a lot of your system's resources ?
[17:41] <recon1> just installed 14.04 on my main machine, but I just get a black screen after the initial boot option screen and, I tried in recovery mode and it said there was not a valid kernel image, any suggestions as to what went wrong?
[17:41] <Pwnna> holstein: yeah. but i
[17:41] <holstein> Pwnna: sure. and when i have seen those, i do what i suggested. testing hardware.. in some cases, finding a motherboard failure, or a bad ram module.. failing hard drive.. etc
[17:41] <Pwnna> 'm hoping that other people see this..
[17:41] <Pwnna> okay
[17:41] <holstein> meek_geek: then, dont use it. but, its not doing anything in the background, though, you can remove it if you like
[17:42] <meek_geek> holstein, but all my friends say is I remove it .. it would mess the system
[17:44] <holstein> meek_geek: then, leave it. thats my argument for suggesting you leave it. so you dont mess anything up.. there is not benifit other than reclaiming a very small amount of hard drive space.. but, do what you like
[17:44] <recon1> should i just install again and hope it work this time?
[17:44] <xubuntu244> hello everybody
[17:45] <holstein> !nomodeset | recon1 might be worth a try from the live CD
[17:45] <recon1> hey 244 o/
[17:46] <xubuntu244> i have a pb with xubuntu 14.04. i want to switch of or suspend the pc after some time of inactivity. I enabled suspend but get an alert box saying that it is "NOT AUTHORIZED". Can somebody help me on that?
[17:49] <xubuntu244> nobody out there to advise?
[17:51] <rustybiscuit> Hey! I figured out one that has not been taken, lol
[17:51] <recon1> xubuntu244: are you logged in as an admin?
[17:52] <Pwnna> here's another one.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7339207/
[17:52] <recon1> failed to get path of  /cow?
[17:53] <xubuntu244> no i am logged in as user.
[17:55] <xubuntu244> using pm-suspend from console or activating suspend from the logout menu works perfectly. only time triggered suspend does not work.
[17:57] <recon1> xubuntu244: really don't know, I suspect you are setting it in the wrong place. it's under power management isn't it?
[17:57] <xubuntu244> yes that is where i found it.
[17:58] <recon1> xubuntu244: and have you tried googling for a solution?
[17:58] <xubuntu244> yes for hours meanwhile
[17:58] <recon1> anyway, I'm rebooting, brb hopefully
[18:12] <recon1> hmm, was not nomodeset any ways, I'm reinstalling
[18:13] <recon1> forgot to set a swap partition!!
[18:22] <SunilJoshi> hello, how can i start Xbuntu in single user mode, adding "single" in boot options didn't solve the purpose
[18:27] <recon1> SunilJoshi: maybe you could try this way https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[18:27] <recon1> rebooting bbl
[18:37] <b4tm4n> is it possible to run a python script in linux on boot that shows  console output?
[18:38] <TheSheep> sure
[18:38] <TheSheep> whether you will see the output is another matter
[18:39] <b4tm4n> TheSheep, well, that's my real problem
[18:39] <b4tm4n> TheSheep, i can get a script to run, but how can i view it's console output
[18:42] <recon1> so, doing an install from a usb key does not seem to work :(
[18:42] <bekks> recon1: Because what happens?
[18:42] <recon1> kernel panic, kernel not sync'ing
[18:44] <recon1> right, going to see if a DVD install will work any beter
[18:44] <bekks> Because of what? It tells you much more
[18:45] <recon1> bekks: it suggest trying " init = option " , but little else
[18:46] <bekks> recon1: Can you screenshot it?
[18:46] <recon1> and no, it says almost nothing, on a normal boot it just gives a blank screen , in rescue mode I can see it starting to load till I get that kernel panic
[18:47] <recon1> I could probably take a picture of it.
[18:47] <recon1> be back in a min
[18:47] <Poisoned_Dragon> is your usb stick good?
[18:48] <recon1> what I'm booting with now
[18:50] <recon1> be back in a bit
[18:59] <kupo_> hmm simplix theme looks better on larger screen for sure
[19:12] <SunilJoshi> hello, how can i login to xubuntu14.04 in single user mode, adding "single" in boot options is not helpful..
[19:12] <SunilJoshi> I am configuring e4rat..
[19:14] <GridCube> SunilJoshi, what you mean by single user mode?
[19:14] <Poisoned_Dragon> He thinks he's using an apple pc.
[19:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> Although, the recovery console would mimic that behavior, I believe.
[19:15] <SunilJoshi> Poisoned_Dragon: I am not able to configure e4rat going into recovering mde
[19:15] <GridCube> im not following
[19:16] <SunilJoshi> Not able to defrag, it says "defrag mode : locality group"
[19:17] <GridCube> defrag?
[19:17] <GridCube> im really really not understanding what you want to do SunilJoshi
[19:17] <GridCube> why you need to defrag something?
[19:18] <SunilJoshi> GridCube: e4rat
[19:18] <SunilJoshi> how-to-cut-your-linux-pcs-boot-time-in-half-with-e4rat
[19:18] <elfy> SunilJoshi: have you tried adding single after quiet splash by editing the boot line from grub?
[19:18] <elfy> and what stops you doing this in recovery mode?
[19:19] <SunilJoshi> elfy: yups
[19:19] <elfy> well it works ok for me in a vm
[19:19] <SunilJoshi> sudo e4rat-realloc doesnot work as filesystem is in read only mode
[19:19] <elfy> so what stops you configuring this in recovery mode?
[19:19] <elfy> right - so you need to mount the filesystem in recovery mode first
[19:20] <SunilJoshi> ok
[19:20] <SunilJoshi> like this -> mount -o remount,rw /
[19:20] <elfy> I believe so
[19:20] <SunilJoshi> Found @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[19:20] <elfy> yep
[19:21]  * SunilJoshi rebooting.. brb..
[19:31] <recon_lap> back, it worked from the DVD , here is an images of the kernel panic https://www.dropbox.com/s/1g1rcmue9z84x8u/20140426_195349.jpg
[19:32] <kupo_> Any type of applet that does update icon like mint does?
[19:32] <kupo_> for on panel
[19:32] <kupo_> most likely not
[19:32] <GridCube> update icon?
[19:32] <kupo_> yeah. like how mint has one with the green check
[19:32] <GridCube> no idea
[19:32] <GridCube> never used mint
[19:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> No, no applet
[19:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> the software updater will let you know. There's no constantly present icon.
[19:34] <recon_lap> sudo apt-get update maybe :)
[19:34] <Poisoned_Dragon> recon_lap, there might be an issue with your usb stick.
[19:34] <Poisoned_Dragon> You just don't know it.
[19:34] <kupo_> yeah i know. just wonmdering. i randomly come across applets i have not known about
[19:34] <Poisoned_Dragon> glad it worked with the dvd.
[19:34] <recon_lap> Poisoned_Dragon: the usb stick was not pluged in?
[19:36] <Poisoned_Dragon> I know.
[19:36] <Poisoned_Dragon> My point is, the usb install throwing a panic might be related to the stick.
[19:36] <recon_lap> anyways, I've got to tweek all the littles things that have gone away now. no brightness control , changing application buttons to horizontal instead of vertical
[19:38] <recon_lap> can i start complaining about the changes now :)
[19:38] <Poisoned_Dragon> No good, can't hear you.
[19:39] <Poisoned_Dragon> complain less, tweak more.
[19:40] <SunilJoshi> \o/, that worked for me thanks!! :)
[19:41] <recon_lap> I've got to get my shades till I get my brightness control back :)
[19:44] <recon_lap> anyways, 2 year with no OS troubles , thank you xubuntu \o/ , couple of days tweeking a small price to pay for getting all the goodies and another 2 years of peace :)
[19:53] <recon_lap> hmm, brightness applet not working, damn what did i have to fix last time aggh
[20:02] <kupo_> what is brightness applet called? I know you can always change it on config file
[20:06] <recon_lap> it's in the xfce power tools package
[20:06] <recon_lap> called brightness app
[20:07] <recon_lap> xfce4-power-manager-plugins , oddly not installed by default
[20:08] <recon_lap> now, how do i get my "Button Applet " to show buttons horizontal in a vertical menu, and not change size when there are no windows in the current workspace?
[20:15] <krytarik> recon_lap: Like here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2217660
[20:18] <recon_lap> krytarik: thx, thats one of them down :)
[20:18] <recon_lap> now to get the buttons horizontal instead of vertical :)
[20:23] <krytarik> recon_lap: That'd be "Window Menu", rather than "Window Buttons", no?
[20:25] <recon_lap> krytarik: no, it the "window buttons" applet in the toolbar, does not handle being in a vertical toobar very well.
[20:26] <recon_lap> krytarik: there was an option to set the text orientation, just seems to assume that it's in a horizontal toolbar atm.
[20:26] <recon_lap> had problems with this 2 years ago as well.
[20:39] <recon_lap> this is what i mean about window buttons https://www.dropbox.com/s/x8o9yvxk05qyx6w/Screenshot-window-buttons.jpg
[20:42] <elfy> recon_lap: you could try deskbar mode instead of vertical - but I don't use window buttons anyway
[20:42] <elfy> text is horizontal in deskbar mode - but is too long to read anyway
[20:43] <elfy> recon_lap: what px size do you use in panel?
[20:43] <recon_lap> deskbar mode?
[20:44] <recon_lap> elfy: you mean the size of the toolbar?
[20:44] <elfy> yep - row size pixels
[20:44] <recon_lap> 128
[20:45] <elfy> http://imagebin.org/307646
[20:45] <recon_lap> on a 16:9 screen I got plenty of space on the side of the screen and little vertical space
[20:46] <elfy> that's deskbar mode at 128px with window buttons and 1 row
[20:46] <recon_lap> yes, great, now how do you set it to deskbar mode?
[20:47] <elfy> oh - hang on - what version xubuntu is this?
[20:47] <recon_lap> 14.04
[20:47] <elfy> panel prefs - display tab - mode - deskbar - where you'd set it to vertical
[20:49] <recon_lap> elfy, thx , that fixed my window buttons, broke my workspace switcher :) , but I should be able to fix that
[20:49] <elfy> lol
[20:53] <recon_lap> got it after a bit of random clicking on workspace switcher , got a different preferences window !!
[20:54] <elfy> preferences and properties :)
[20:54] <recon_lap> now, how did no one think to put the "pictures" folder into the places list in the file manager!!
[20:54] <elfy> settings I mean
[20:55] <recon_lap> preferences, properties, setting and particularities !!
[20:55] <elfy> :)
[20:56] <elfy> peculiarities maybe :)
[20:57] <recon_lap> seems pictures don't cut it with Document, Downloads, Music and Video, yet it still gets a special folder with an icon. bit inconsistent if you ask me :)
[20:59] <elfy> well - Documents, Downloads, Music and Video soon disappear from mine
[20:59] <recon_lap> brb, going to reboot and see if my brightness applet works after adding GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_backlight=vendor"
[21:00] <recon_lap> elfy: you can delete them?
[21:00] <elfy> yea - right click - remove shortcut
[21:01] <elfy> http://imagebin.org/307651
[21:03] <recon_lap> elfy: but no way to add one?
[21:04] <recon_lap> brb
[21:06] <elfy> yea - drag them from the right pane - to the sidebar
[21:06] <elfy> and wb
[21:08] <elfy> I think you do it with conf files as well
[21:08] <recon_lap> haa, relief , takes shades off :)
[21:09] <recon_lap> elfy: now why did I not think if dragging the folder in :)
[21:10] <elfy> :)
[21:11] <recon_lap> ok, desktop restored :) looking good (ie the same as it was )
[21:13] <elfy> :)
[21:25] <NRDisciple> hey everyone, got my color laser printer printing (Samsung CLP-315W) in black and white.  The foo2qpdl instructions say: Now create printer entries for your spooler. Create at least one queue for monochrome, and another queue for color printing.  How do you go about making the printer queues for black and color printing?  thanks!
[21:28] <NRDisciple> *facepalm* nvm
[21:28] <NRDisciple> default set at monochrome, my apologies
[22:41] <Archimedes> Hey guys, heartbleed is patched in 14.04 correct? Noticed it was using then vulnerable version of ssl but imagining it's fixed?
[22:43] <krytarik> Archimedes: Yep, see here: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1f-1ubuntu2/changelog
[22:44] <Archimedes> krytarik: Thank you
[22:45] <recon_lap> thought the heartbleed issue was a server deal only
[22:46] <Unit193> recon_lap: Some strange attack methods can include client side.
[23:11] <Archimedes> can Nautilus be used in Xubuntu?