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hallwaxerhi there, i have an issue with connecting to a location on my network.  I enter the ip - smb://198.168.1.xx (obviously, I don't enter xx), and i'm getting a blank folder.  Interestingly, it worked only 20 minutes ago.  Any ideas/suggestions?00:41
daftykins12 whole minutes00:55
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* Monotoko pokes the room to see who's awake01:22
penguin42ouch!01:23
MonotokoI knew there'd be one, my sleeping pattern always shifts to night when I've not been working a while :(01:24
* penguin42 is in weekend mode01:24
MonotokoI've been in weekend mode for two weeks now - just doing some late night coding and wondering why Stack Overflow's code doesn't work01:25
penguin42it's a bit random whether you hit a good answer or not01:25
MonotokoYeah... can't really see why it shouldn't work, but I'm trying to get current with PHP, the stuff I used to do was all procedural01:26
Monotokoand I do feel sorry for anyone maintaining it01:27
penguin42oh, I've never done PHP01:27
Monotoko'eh... trying to get back into programming, don't much like the sysadmin world anymore >.<01:30
penguin42ah, call yourself a devop then :-)01:30
MonotokoI don't much like that either :P01:31
shaunofinally finished Voyager last night.  now I have no idea what I'm meant to do at work all day07:23
mappsiyou excited for 5th may?07:23
shaunowossat?07:24
mappso m g07:24
mapps24 series 9:)07:24
shaunooh.  never got into that07:25
mappswoah07:25
mapps24 is ace07:25
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bashrcmorning08:09
mappsmorning bashrc08:43
ali1234argh my computer is totally messed up and it's all popey's fault08:57
shaunohave you tried turning him off & back on?08:59
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:30
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AzelphurThis seriously makes me want to stab a debian package maintainer. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2014/Apr/2014-04-27-173243_2560x1418_scrot.png16:34
shaunonice16:35
popeyhah16:35
Azelphurespecially since XBMC has the capability to display a notification on first run >.<16:36
Azelphurso they could have just done that, instead of butchering the theme and making it forever ugly.16:36
Azelphurlooks like the XBMC developers aren't that happy with the changes they've made, either http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=181126&pid=1581291#pid158129116:38
daftykinsdebian have ruined XBMC in general from what i've heard16:41
Azelphursounds like a hoot16:41
daftykinsmainly it's that they said no to the whole inclusion of a hardcoded ffmpeg that XBMC relies on though, yeah16:42
mappsargh stupid windows updates made my laptop turn off18:08
mapps:(18:08
brobostigon:(18:08
daftykinsd'aww18:12
daftykinsyou should do them ;)18:12
daftykinsor stop the service!18:12
mappsya18:15
diddledanoh dear: http://www.nerdist.com/2014/04/let-rory-go-the-ballad-of-arthur-darvill-sung-by-arthur-darvill/19:27
DJonesmapps: sudo apt-get remove windows :)19:28
* diddledan double-clicks "instdows.exe"19:31
diddledansee what I did there with the 8.3ism :-p19:32
diddledanso Windows finally got filenames with spaces and more than 8.3 characters in 1995. at that time the "Program Files" directory was invented. and yet software is still being created that tries to open c:\program leading to various fun exploits by placing an executable called program.exe at c:\19:35
MartijnVdSdiddledan: and the name "micros~1"19:35
diddledanthe ~1 filenames are evil19:36
daftykinsdir /x19:36
diddledan~2 ~3 if there's more than one19:36
daftykins:)19:36
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/uger97w09xw2z59/raid.png19:37
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/7zmkub96r1rh6rz/raid2.png19:37
daftykinsshe's dead, Jim19:37
MartijnVdSand it's the bigger disk too19:37
diddledanI wonder what happens if you have more than 9999999 files with similar first few characters longer than 8 thereof19:37
daftykinsyep, got sent a 2TB in replacement for a 1TB in an RMA many moons ago :)19:38
daftykins3 of those have been spinning for 6 years19:38
penguin42daftykins: Shhh don't say that, they can hear you19:38
daftykinshehe19:38
diddledandaftykins: is it rebuilding or is the 2TB dead already?19:39
daftykinsdefinitely dead sir19:39
diddledanoh bugger19:39
daftykinsjust got a dispatch email from amazon UK for my 1TB WD Red19:39
diddledan\o/19:39
daftykins£42.4919:39
daftykinsthat was after i stopped myself for clicking 'confirm' on 6 x 2TB WD Reds19:39
daftykinss/for/from/19:39
diddledanlol19:39
daftykins12 port controller y'see, i planned ahead ;)19:40
daftykinslast time i had 8 disks on an 8 port, i had to buy a new controller to cope XD19:40
penguin42I love living in a major city where I can get pretty much any PC component within a couple of hours19:40
mappsnice19:40
mappsdaftykins why u go for 1tb and not the 2tbs19:40
daftykinspenguin42: from a local shop?19:40
diddledanthat controller must have been not-cheap19:41
penguin42daftykins: localish19:41
daftykinsmapps: the array is of 1TB disks, to get a larger disk would just waste space. e.g. that 2TB that's dead, only half has ever been used19:41
diddledanwas it a greenie?>19:41
penguin42daftykins: I can get to Scan in about 1.5 hours on public transport, Microdirect in about an hour19:41
daftykinsall these are expensive WD Re's, the RAID edition ones19:41
mappsaha19:41
mappswhats LSI?19:42
penguin42RAID controller vendor19:42
daftykinsthe company that bought 3ware :)19:42
daftykinsthey make SATA HBA's (host bus adapters)19:42
mappsoh19:42
mappsso its related to the raid controller19:42
daftykinsyeah LSI bought 3ware a few years back19:42
mappsah19:43
penguin42daftykins: I live just on the northern outskirts of Manchester19:43
daftykinspenguin42: oh that's neat :) local retail would be terrible here19:43
daftykinsprobably negate the VAT saving19:43
robotninjaashamedly I've never looked what's local. Too easy to have a box turn up at the office tomorrow with new shiny in it19:44
mappswhere you live19:45
mappsi wish i could order to where i work19:45
mappswould be handy..no more missed deliveries19:45
penguin42robotninja: Useful when something goes *pop*19:45
robotninjaSwindon, so less likely to have decent retailers than in a city19:45
daftykinsis Swindon the one that's famous solely for having a roundabout of roundabouts? :)19:46
diddledanbingo19:46
daftykins\o/19:46
daftykinsdafty learns 2 England19:46
diddledanthe "magic roundabout"19:46
* penguin42 has only been to Basingstoke that's more of a distributed set of roundabouts19:46
diddledanhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_(Swindon)19:47
robotninjathankfully the postroom guys at my office are very understanding about personal deliveries... and they get a decent whip-round at Christmas19:47
daftykins:D19:48
* penguin42 works at home now, not a problem19:50
daftykinsnice :)19:53
daftykinspenguin42: are you a kind of freelance software dev then? or tied to a company but work from home?19:53
penguin42daftykins: A normal company employee but work from home19:54
daftykins:)19:54
diddledanI think I need a new mouse19:59
diddledanmine wont scroll-up very often20:00
daftykins:(20:00
daftykinsthat's the kind of infuriating fail20:00
penguin42maybe it prefers down?20:00
penguin42like the lift in hhgttg20:01
diddledando you ever get a pain in the diodes down your left-hand side?20:02
penguin42frequently20:02
diddledanme too20:02
diddledanI need to study more quoteworthy quotes from hhgttg20:02
diddledanpretty much every other sentence is worthy of quoting though20:03
DJonesdaftykins: Roundabouts on roundabouts....sounds like Warringtonn20:03
diddledanI don't think I've got enough brain power for that many. despite my brain being the size of a planet20:03
diddledanwhich leads me onto another point: why didn't the white mice ask marvin for the question?20:04
penguin42diddledan: There are so many great bits in it; I've only ever heard the radio series (never had the patience for the book) - and I only heard the episode with the lift many years after getting to know the rest of it20:04
penguin42diddledan: It wasn't the size of the planet that made Earth able to find the answer, it was the biological life that formed part of it's compute matrix20:05
diddledanaah20:05
diddledanstill, we do need more bypasses20:06
diddledanhang on, are you suggesting that I'm biological?!20:07
penguin42 'The computer will be so large and complex that even biological life will be a part of the computer program.'20:07
penguin42diddledan: Well, do you taste good with ketchup?20:07
diddledanI'm surely a figment of your imagination, no?20:07
diddledanI think that depends which part of me you're tasting. my fingers, e.g., aren't that tasty - not enough meat20:08
mappshmm20:12
mappsgym food..casino me thinks20:12
mappsmay aswell watch the nba there20:12
diddledanhttp://gaspull.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/stalking.jpg20:12
daftykinsInbox: Facebook - diddledan wants to be friends on Facebook20:15
daftykins;D20:15
diddledan:->20:16
mapps:D20:19
mappsfacebook how old are you kids20:19
mappscba with all that20:19
diddledanI'm now officially "thirty-something"20:20
diddledan:-p20:20
diddledanwhen did I get old?!20:20
diddledanI swear I didn't allow that to happen20:20
DJones30......Old, rubbish20:21
robotninjaI turn 30 next weekend. Eeeep.20:21
* DJones kicks diddledan for even contemplating that 30 is old20:21
mapps30 in november20:21
mapps:Z20:21
diddledanDJones: 31, please. 30 != thirty-something20:22
diddledan:-p20:22
diddledanmakes all the difference!20:22
penguin42youngsters20:22
DJonesdiddledan: 31, even so, kids today20:22
diddledanlol20:22
mappsand we have take off20:22
mappsmy dell machine sounding like a plan again when compiling20:22
mappslol20:22
diddledanwhy you compiling for?!20:23
diddledanapt-get install foo20:23
diddledanif it isn't in apt, then it's not worth having20:23
* DJones notes that even deducting 31 from his age would still be a legal age for parenthood20:23
* diddledan goes back to os x20:23
diddledanDJones: lol20:24
diddledanI'm waiting for the time when I can "go out with someone half [my] age" and it be legal :-p20:24
diddledanso next year then20:24
DJonesdiddledan: You shoudl meet a guy at work,  he's a 54 year old tyre fitter, his girlfriend is a blond, swedish, 21 year old20:26
diddledanthat's just taking the widdle!20:26
penguin42DJones: Heck, that does make you old :-)20:27
* penguin42 is going to match his nic this year20:27
DJonesdiddledan: He got to meet her because she walked past our depot every day, got talking, she asked him to take her out, spent the night together, next morening she took him to mmet her parents who are both younger than him20:28
DJonespenguin42: :)20:28
DJonespenguin42: You're only as old as you feel, I feel early 30's, it'll do for me20:28
* penguin42 is glad you feel that young.....20:29
shaunoI still maintain dan's 12.20:30
daftykinsi feel like i should do more varied exercise again, my body doesn't feel as compliant as in my early 20s20:30
DJonesI'd feel younger if I wasm't going for a cortisone injection on friday20:30
daftykinsshauno: haha, what's my virtual-age?20:30
diddledanshauno: ssshh20:30
shaunothe worrying thing is that's gotta be getting close to how long I've known him20:31
diddledanlol20:31
diddledanshauno: probably longer now20:32
daftykinsdid one of you drag the other in here? i don't know if i saw one of you first now20:32
shaunoI believe it was just a small world.  I'm not pretty enough to stalk20:33
diddledan;-)20:33
daftykinshaha20:33
shaunookay, I should rephrase "I want to believe .."20:34
penguin42yes, 'knowing' people on irc for 20+ years is interesting when you've never met them20:34
daftykinslast time i was in Brighton i met up with a US'ian from another channel who was in the neighbourhood20:35
daftykinsthat was good :)20:35
mapps:)20:35
daftykinsfor anyone down Devon way, i'm going to be in 'Chard' end of June for a wedding20:36
shaunoI think the strange part for me, is that I've moved country twice in that time.  so he's 'known' me longer than anyone I know IRL now20:36
diddledanisn't the whole point of IRC that it prevents the absurdity of physical contact?20:36
daftykinswell, i occasionally like to do that whole drinking ales thing20:36
daftykins:D20:36
diddledanlol20:36
mappshmm20:37
mapps3g or 4g today20:37
mappswhich shall i use20:37
diddledan4!! because moar20:37
shaunowhich one matches your shoes best?20:37
mappsheh20:37
diddledanor shoes.20:37
diddledaneither or20:37
mapps3gs fast atm 8mbit20:38
mappsyesterday was say 2mbit around now20:38
diddledan3gs? we're risking apple-naming territory now20:38
diddledans because s is obviously a marker of extra20:39
diddledanmoar20:40
daftykins:D20:41
diddledanhttp://gaspull.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/talk.jpg20:42
diddledanweather it is20:42
daftykinsannoys me when i do that20:44
daftykinswhat's most amusing is i cycle, but most people i know will be in cars20:44
daftykinsguess who complains the most when it's raining? :)20:44
shaunome?20:46
diddledanshauno: you're in ireland, of course you're going to complain more20:46
daftykinsthe car peeps ;)20:46
daftykinslol20:46
diddledanmore rains == more complains20:46
* penguin42 complains if the rain misses ireland and then lands on us20:46
daftykins:D20:48
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Azelphurwell this is weird / extremely annoying...I can't paste text into thunderbird xD21:38
Azelphurif I right click, the paste option is greyed out lol21:38
moreatiAzelphur: ctrl+v?21:40
Azelphurfigured it out, multi X screen issue...this is going to be annoying as all hell21:40
Azelphurmoreati: makes the application hang for a few seconds and produces no results21:40
moreatiah21:40
Azelphurcan't paste between X screens any more...this is going to be so horribly painful21:41
moreatiAzelphur: highlight/middle click?21:41
Azelphurmoreati: nah, it's an across the board bug affecting every application it seems, I can only copy paste between applications on the same X screen21:41
penguin42why multiple X screens ?21:42
Azelphurbecause nvidia sucks and I have a lot of screens21:42
diddledanxinerama ftw21:42
Azelphuryou know what, I should actually enable xinerama.21:42
penguin42oh, nvidia hmm, how many screens?21:42
AzelphurI don't use compiz any more, so why not xD21:42
Azelphur421:42
penguin42that's not that many 'lots' - how many cards?21:42
Azelphur221:43
penguin42so is this a separate X display on each card?21:43
Azelphuryup21:43
penguin42hmm, I thought Nvidia had ways not to do that21:43
Azelphurit does, xinerama, I've always not used it because it breaks compiz21:44
Azelphurbut, I don't use compiz any more...so I should use xinerama21:44
diddledanI believe xinerama prevents proprietary drivers from doing 3d21:44
mappshttp://annasagrera.com/on-ascii-youtube-and-letting-go/21:44
diddledanso unity would be fail21:44
mappswatching a video in my terminal but it dont look right at all21:44
mappslol21:44
AzelphurI use XFCE, but I play games in steam, so no 3d will be a very quick visit21:44
Azelphurbut I'm sure I've played TF2 with xinerama before.21:45
AzelphurI'm gonna try it, brb :)21:45
Azelphurwell I can run glxgears, but TF2 won't run21:51
penguin42Azelphur: Don't nvidia have some other funky name for teaming multiple cards?21:54
Azelphurpenguin42: no idea21:55
Azelphurlooks like minecraft runs fine, must be TF2 specific21:55
penguin42SLI?21:55
diddledanI think sli is a different thing21:56
Azelphurnope21:56
AzelphurSLi is for combining multiple cards to get more power, requires identical cards21:56
penguin42Twinview?21:56
Azelphurpenguin42: twinview is just that, TWINview21:58
Azelphurdoesn't work for quad21:58
Azelphuralthough, it's perfectly capable of doing so, nvidia bricked the driver to try and force quadro cards on people21:58
robotninjaI wish I'd bought two of the monitor I have... Dual monitors would be very nice (I've got two at work) but I have this compulsive need for them to match.22:01
robotninjaThere's one on fleabay but they want £120 for it, stuff that22:01
diddledanI'm on a laptop with a 17in 4:3 and a 24in 16:10 - matching? hah!22:02
daftykinsoh yeah they definitely need to match22:02
daftykinsi think the differing colours would drive me insane otherwise22:02
diddledanthe laptop inbuilt is a 13in 16:922:02
Azelphurjust get the imported korean ones, 1440p aww yis22:02
Azelphuror wait 5 minutes and import some 4k ones22:02
Azelphurhttps://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/2285 hmm, this is my issue22:03
Azelphurbut I don't think RandR can actually do that? I thought RandR was simply a configuration thing22:03
daftykinsyeah i thought it was just for setting your screen setup22:06
penguin42Azelphur: Out of gentle curiosity, does nouveau work on the cards?22:18
Azelphurprobably, but not with TF2 and the suchlike.22:19
diddledan-022:20
Azelphurand for bonus points, easystroke has broke now too :(22:20
* penguin42 hates to think what easystroke is22:20
Azelphurmouse gestures22:20
penguin42oh22:20
daftykinsLOL22:20
daftykinspenguin42: you've been around diddledan too long ;)22:21
* penguin42 looks innocently at daftykins22:21
mappshmm22:23
mappsanyone got a jb ios device?22:23
mappscant recall the app to remove restrictions so u can use apps on 3g that are set to wifi only22:23
dogmatic69_why does 14.04 stop music when the screen locks... dumbest change ever.22:47
dogmatic69_anyone know how to stop this happening?22:47
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AzelphurIs there any way to make the new IBus Preferences tool in Xubuntu 14.04 go die? it keeps changing my layout to US English even though my system is set to UK Colemak23:21
Azelphurand even if I set it to UK Colemak, it's still wrong23:21
Azelphurit seems to think UK Colemak == US Colemak :"23:21
AzelphurI can't even do angry faces any more, :(23:22
daftykinsD:23:23
AzelphurI can fix it by going into XFCEs keyboard settings and changing my keyboard layout, then changing it back again, silly IBus thing.23:25
diddledanAzelphur: I recall there was a bug mentioned about that the other day - check launchpad23:31
Azelphurfun23:31
Azelphurdiddledan: I'm more miffed about copy paste no longer being functional between X screens. :(23:31
daftykins!23:41
daftykinswhat happens if you overlap a window between, then copy when in the overlap portion? :D23:42
daftykinsheh my PhD physics mate has just got to japan with his new trusty install23:43
daftykinshe's trying to compile this physics prog he uses called ROOT, currently wading through all the issues that trusty is giving him :D23:43
penguin42travelling on a fresh bleeding edge install23:47
daftykinsyep :D23:55
daftykinshe had major issues with 12.04 though23:55
daftykinsif VGA was connected it'd boot with that only, no internal screen23:56
daftykins(optimus laptop)23:56
penguin42ah yes, those are fun23:57
daftykinssame as mine, in fact23:59

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