[00:41] <hallwaxer> hi there, i have an issue with connecting to a location on my network.  I enter the ip - smb://198.168.1.xx (obviously, I don't enter xx), and i'm getting a blank folder.  Interestingly, it worked only 20 minutes ago.  Any ideas/suggestions?
[00:55] <daftykins> 12 whole minutes
[01:22]  * Monotoko pokes the room to see who's awake
[01:23] <penguin42> ouch!
[01:24] <Monotoko> I knew there'd be one, my sleeping pattern always shifts to night when I've not been working a while :(
[01:24]  * penguin42 is in weekend mode
[01:25] <Monotoko> I've been in weekend mode for two weeks now - just doing some late night coding and wondering why Stack Overflow's code doesn't work
[01:25] <penguin42> it's a bit random whether you hit a good answer or not
[01:26] <Monotoko> Yeah... can't really see why it shouldn't work, but I'm trying to get current with PHP, the stuff I used to do was all procedural
[01:27] <Monotoko> and I do feel sorry for anyone maintaining it
[01:27] <penguin42> oh, I've never done PHP
[01:30] <Monotoko> 'eh... trying to get back into programming, don't much like the sysadmin world anymore >.<
[01:30] <penguin42> ah, call yourself a devop then :-)
[01:31] <Monotoko> I don't much like that either :P
[07:23] <shauno> finally finished Voyager last night.  now I have no idea what I'm meant to do at work all day
[07:23] <mapps> iyou excited for 5th may?
[07:24] <shauno> wossat?
[07:24] <mapps> o m g
[07:24] <mapps> 24 series 9:)
[07:25] <shauno> oh.  never got into that
[07:25] <mapps> woah
[07:25] <mapps> 24 is ace
[08:09] <bashrc> morning
[08:43] <mapps> morning bashrc
[08:57] <ali1234> argh my computer is totally messed up and it's all popey's fault
[08:59] <shauno> have you tried turning him off & back on?
[09:30] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[16:34] <Azelphur> This seriously makes me want to stab a debian package maintainer. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2014/Apr/2014-04-27-173243_2560x1418_scrot.png
[16:35] <shauno> nice
[16:35] <popey> hah
[16:36] <Azelphur> especially since XBMC has the capability to display a notification on first run >.<
[16:36] <Azelphur> so they could have just done that, instead of butchering the theme and making it forever ugly.
[16:38] <Azelphur> looks like the XBMC developers aren't that happy with the changes they've made, either http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=181126&pid=1581291#pid1581291
[16:41] <daftykins> debian have ruined XBMC in general from what i've heard
[16:41] <Azelphur> sounds like a hoot
[16:42] <daftykins> mainly it's that they said no to the whole inclusion of a hardcoded ffmpeg that XBMC relies on though, yeah
[18:08] <mapps> argh stupid windows updates made my laptop turn off
[18:08] <mapps> :(
[18:08] <brobostigon> :(
[18:12] <daftykins> d'aww
[18:12] <daftykins> you should do them ;)
[18:12] <daftykins> or stop the service!
[18:15] <mapps> ya
[19:27] <diddledan> oh dear: http://www.nerdist.com/2014/04/let-rory-go-the-ballad-of-arthur-darvill-sung-by-arthur-darvill/
[19:28] <DJones> mapps: sudo apt-get remove windows :)
[19:31]  * diddledan double-clicks "instdows.exe"
[19:32] <diddledan> see what I did there with the 8.3ism :-p
[19:35] <diddledan> so Windows finally got filenames with spaces and more than 8.3 characters in 1995. at that time the "Program Files" directory was invented. and yet software is still being created that tries to open c:\program leading to various fun exploits by placing an executable called program.exe at c:\
[19:35] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: and the name "micros~1"
[19:36] <diddledan> the ~1 filenames are evil
[19:36] <daftykins> dir /x
[19:36] <diddledan> ~2 ~3 if there's more than one
[19:36] <daftykins> :)
[19:37] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uger97w09xw2z59/raid.png
[19:37] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7zmkub96r1rh6rz/raid2.png
[19:37] <daftykins> she's dead, Jim
[19:37] <MartijnVdS> and it's the bigger disk too
[19:37] <diddledan> I wonder what happens if you have more than 9999999 files with similar first few characters longer than 8 thereof
[19:38] <daftykins> yep, got sent a 2TB in replacement for a 1TB in an RMA many moons ago :)
[19:38] <daftykins> 3 of those have been spinning for 6 years
[19:38] <penguin42> daftykins: Shhh don't say that, they can hear you
[19:38] <daftykins> hehe
[19:39] <diddledan> daftykins: is it rebuilding or is the 2TB dead already?
[19:39] <daftykins> definitely dead sir
[19:39] <diddledan> oh bugger
[19:39] <daftykins> just got a dispatch email from amazon UK for my 1TB WD Red
[19:39] <diddledan> \o/
[19:39] <daftykins> £42.49
[19:39] <daftykins> that was after i stopped myself for clicking 'confirm' on 6 x 2TB WD Reds
[19:39] <daftykins> s/for/from/
[19:39] <diddledan> lol
[19:40] <daftykins> 12 port controller y'see, i planned ahead ;)
[19:40] <daftykins> last time i had 8 disks on an 8 port, i had to buy a new controller to cope XD
[19:40] <penguin42> I love living in a major city where I can get pretty much any PC component within a couple of hours
[19:40] <mapps> nice
[19:40] <mapps> daftykins why u go for 1tb and not the 2tbs
[19:40] <daftykins> penguin42: from a local shop?
[19:41] <diddledan> that controller must have been not-cheap
[19:41] <penguin42> daftykins: localish
[19:41] <daftykins> mapps: the array is of 1TB disks, to get a larger disk would just waste space. e.g. that 2TB that's dead, only half has ever been used
[19:41] <diddledan> was it a greenie?>
[19:41] <penguin42> daftykins: I can get to Scan in about 1.5 hours on public transport, Microdirect in about an hour
[19:41] <daftykins> all these are expensive WD Re's, the RAID edition ones
[19:41] <mapps> aha
[19:42] <mapps> whats LSI?
[19:42] <penguin42> RAID controller vendor
[19:42] <daftykins> the company that bought 3ware :)
[19:42] <daftykins> they make SATA HBA's (host bus adapters)
[19:42] <mapps> oh
[19:42] <mapps> so its related to the raid controller
[19:42] <daftykins> yeah LSI bought 3ware a few years back
[19:43] <mapps> ah
[19:43] <penguin42> daftykins: I live just on the northern outskirts of Manchester
[19:43] <daftykins> penguin42: oh that's neat :) local retail would be terrible here
[19:43] <daftykins> probably negate the VAT saving
[19:44] <robotninja> ashamedly I've never looked what's local. Too easy to have a box turn up at the office tomorrow with new shiny in it
[19:45] <mapps> where you live
[19:45] <mapps> i wish i could order to where i work
[19:45] <mapps> would be handy..no more missed deliveries
[19:45] <penguin42> robotninja: Useful when something goes *pop*
[19:45] <robotninja> Swindon, so less likely to have decent retailers than in a city
[19:46] <daftykins> is Swindon the one that's famous solely for having a roundabout of roundabouts? :)
[19:46] <diddledan> bingo
[19:46] <daftykins> \o/
[19:46] <daftykins> dafty learns 2 England
[19:46] <diddledan> the "magic roundabout"
[19:46]  * penguin42 has only been to Basingstoke that's more of a distributed set of roundabouts
[19:47] <diddledan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_(Swindon)
[19:47] <robotninja> thankfully the postroom guys at my office are very understanding about personal deliveries... and they get a decent whip-round at Christmas
[19:48] <daftykins> :D
[19:50]  * penguin42 works at home now, not a problem
[19:53] <daftykins> nice :)
[19:53] <daftykins> penguin42: are you a kind of freelance software dev then? or tied to a company but work from home?
[19:54] <penguin42> daftykins: A normal company employee but work from home
[19:54] <daftykins> :)
[19:59] <diddledan> I think I need a new mouse
[20:00] <diddledan> mine wont scroll-up very often
[20:00] <daftykins> :(
[20:00] <daftykins> that's the kind of infuriating fail
[20:00] <penguin42> maybe it prefers down?
[20:01] <penguin42> like the lift in hhgttg
[20:02] <diddledan> do you ever get a pain in the diodes down your left-hand side?
[20:02] <penguin42> frequently
[20:02] <diddledan> me too
[20:02] <diddledan> I need to study more quoteworthy quotes from hhgttg
[20:03] <diddledan> pretty much every other sentence is worthy of quoting though
[20:03] <DJones> daftykins: Roundabouts on roundabouts....sounds like Warringtonn
[20:03] <diddledan> I don't think I've got enough brain power for that many. despite my brain being the size of a planet
[20:04] <diddledan> which leads me onto another point: why didn't the white mice ask marvin for the question?
[20:04] <penguin42> diddledan: There are so many great bits in it; I've only ever heard the radio series (never had the patience for the book) - and I only heard the episode with the lift many years after getting to know the rest of it
[20:05] <penguin42> diddledan: It wasn't the size of the planet that made Earth able to find the answer, it was the biological life that formed part of it's compute matrix
[20:05] <diddledan> aah
[20:06] <diddledan> still, we do need more bypasses
[20:07] <diddledan> hang on, are you suggesting that I'm biological?!
[20:07] <penguin42>  'The computer will be so large and complex that even biological life will be a part of the computer program.'
[20:07] <penguin42> diddledan: Well, do you taste good with ketchup?
[20:07] <diddledan> I'm surely a figment of your imagination, no?
[20:08] <diddledan> I think that depends which part of me you're tasting. my fingers, e.g., aren't that tasty - not enough meat
[20:12] <mapps> hmm
[20:12] <mapps> gym food..casino me thinks
[20:12] <mapps> may aswell watch the nba there
[20:12] <diddledan> http://gaspull.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/stalking.jpg
[20:15] <daftykins> Inbox: Facebook - diddledan wants to be friends on Facebook
[20:15] <daftykins> ;D
[20:16] <diddledan> :->
[20:19] <mapps> :D
[20:19] <mapps> facebook how old are you kids
[20:19] <mapps> cba with all that
[20:20] <diddledan> I'm now officially "thirty-something"
[20:20] <diddledan> :-p
[20:20] <diddledan> when did I get old?!
[20:20] <diddledan> I swear I didn't allow that to happen
[20:21] <DJones> 30......Old, rubbish
[20:21] <robotninja> I turn 30 next weekend. Eeeep.
[20:21]  * DJones kicks diddledan for even contemplating that 30 is old
[20:21] <mapps> 30 in november
[20:21] <mapps> :Z
[20:22] <diddledan> DJones: 31, please. 30 != thirty-something
[20:22] <diddledan> :-p
[20:22] <diddledan> makes all the difference!
[20:22] <penguin42> youngsters
[20:22] <DJones> diddledan: 31, even so, kids today
[20:22] <diddledan> lol
[20:22] <mapps> and we have take off
[20:22] <mapps> my dell machine sounding like a plan again when compiling
[20:22] <mapps> lol
[20:23] <diddledan> why you compiling for?!
[20:23] <diddledan> apt-get install foo
[20:23] <diddledan> if it isn't in apt, then it's not worth having
[20:23]  * DJones notes that even deducting 31 from his age would still be a legal age for parenthood
[20:23]  * diddledan goes back to os x
[20:24] <diddledan> DJones: lol
[20:24] <diddledan> I'm waiting for the time when I can "go out with someone half [my] age" and it be legal :-p
[20:24] <diddledan> so next year then
[20:26] <DJones> diddledan: You shoudl meet a guy at work,  he's a 54 year old tyre fitter, his girlfriend is a blond, swedish, 21 year old
[20:26] <diddledan> that's just taking the widdle!
[20:27] <penguin42> DJones: Heck, that does make you old :-)
[20:27]  * penguin42 is going to match his nic this year
[20:28] <DJones> diddledan: He got to meet her because she walked past our depot every day, got talking, she asked him to take her out, spent the night together, next morening she took him to mmet her parents who are both younger than him
[20:28] <DJones> penguin42: :)
[20:28] <DJones> penguin42: You're only as old as you feel, I feel early 30's, it'll do for me
[20:29]  * penguin42 is glad you feel that young.....
[20:30] <shauno> I still maintain dan's 12.
[20:30] <daftykins> i feel like i should do more varied exercise again, my body doesn't feel as compliant as in my early 20s
[20:30] <DJones> I'd feel younger if I wasm't going for a cortisone injection on friday
[20:30] <daftykins> shauno: haha, what's my virtual-age?
[20:30] <diddledan> shauno: ssshh
[20:31] <shauno> the worrying thing is that's gotta be getting close to how long I've known him
[20:31] <diddledan> lol
[20:32] <diddledan> shauno: probably longer now
[20:32] <daftykins> did one of you drag the other in here? i don't know if i saw one of you first now
[20:33] <shauno> I believe it was just a small world.  I'm not pretty enough to stalk
[20:33] <diddledan> ;-)
[20:33] <daftykins> haha
[20:34] <shauno> okay, I should rephrase "I want to believe .."
[20:34] <penguin42> yes, 'knowing' people on irc for 20+ years is interesting when you've never met them
[20:35] <daftykins> last time i was in Brighton i met up with a US'ian from another channel who was in the neighbourhood
[20:35] <daftykins> that was good :)
[20:35] <mapps> :)
[20:36] <daftykins> for anyone down Devon way, i'm going to be in 'Chard' end of June for a wedding
[20:36] <shauno> I think the strange part for me, is that I've moved country twice in that time.  so he's 'known' me longer than anyone I know IRL now
[20:36] <diddledan> isn't the whole point of IRC that it prevents the absurdity of physical contact?
[20:36] <daftykins> well, i occasionally like to do that whole drinking ales thing
[20:36] <daftykins> :D
[20:36] <diddledan> lol
[20:37] <mapps> hmm
[20:37] <mapps> 3g or 4g today
[20:37] <mapps> which shall i use
[20:37] <diddledan> 4!! because moar
[20:37] <shauno> which one matches your shoes best?
[20:37] <mapps> heh
[20:37] <diddledan> or shoes.
[20:37] <diddledan> either or
[20:38] <mapps> 3gs fast atm 8mbit
[20:38] <mapps> yesterday was say 2mbit around now
[20:38] <diddledan> 3gs? we're risking apple-naming territory now
[20:39] <diddledan> s because s is obviously a marker of extra
[20:40] <diddledan> moar
[20:41] <daftykins> :D
[20:42] <diddledan> http://gaspull.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/talk.jpg
[20:42] <diddledan> weather it is
[20:44] <daftykins> annoys me when i do that
[20:44] <daftykins> what's most amusing is i cycle, but most people i know will be in cars
[20:44] <daftykins> guess who complains the most when it's raining? :)
[20:46] <shauno> me?
[20:46] <diddledan> shauno: you're in ireland, of course you're going to complain more
[20:46] <daftykins> the car peeps ;)
[20:46] <daftykins> lol
[20:46] <diddledan> more rains == more complains
[20:46]  * penguin42 complains if the rain misses ireland and then lands on us
[20:48] <daftykins> :D
[21:38] <Azelphur> well this is weird / extremely annoying...I can't paste text into thunderbird xD
[21:38] <Azelphur> if I right click, the paste option is greyed out lol
[21:40] <moreati> Azelphur: ctrl+v?
[21:40] <Azelphur> figured it out, multi X screen issue...this is going to be annoying as all hell
[21:40] <Azelphur> moreati: makes the application hang for a few seconds and produces no results
[21:40] <moreati> ah
[21:41] <Azelphur> can't paste between X screens any more...this is going to be so horribly painful
[21:41] <moreati> Azelphur: highlight/middle click?
[21:41] <Azelphur> moreati: nah, it's an across the board bug affecting every application it seems, I can only copy paste between applications on the same X screen
[21:42] <penguin42> why multiple X screens ?
[21:42] <Azelphur> because nvidia sucks and I have a lot of screens
[21:42] <diddledan> xinerama ftw
[21:42] <Azelphur> you know what, I should actually enable xinerama.
[21:42] <penguin42> oh, nvidia hmm, how many screens?
[21:42] <Azelphur> I don't use compiz any more, so why not xD
[21:42] <Azelphur> 4
[21:42] <penguin42> that's not that many 'lots' - how many cards?
[21:43] <Azelphur> 2
[21:43] <penguin42> so is this a separate X display on each card?
[21:43] <Azelphur> yup
[21:43] <penguin42> hmm, I thought Nvidia had ways not to do that
[21:44] <Azelphur> it does, xinerama, I've always not used it because it breaks compiz
[21:44] <Azelphur> but, I don't use compiz any more...so I should use xinerama
[21:44] <diddledan> I believe xinerama prevents proprietary drivers from doing 3d
[21:44] <mapps> http://annasagrera.com/on-ascii-youtube-and-letting-go/
[21:44] <diddledan> so unity would be fail
[21:44] <mapps> watching a video in my terminal but it dont look right at all
[21:44] <mapps> lol
[21:44] <Azelphur> I use XFCE, but I play games in steam, so no 3d will be a very quick visit
[21:45] <Azelphur> but I'm sure I've played TF2 with xinerama before.
[21:45] <Azelphur> I'm gonna try it, brb :)
[21:51] <Azelphur> well I can run glxgears, but TF2 won't run
[21:54] <penguin42> Azelphur: Don't nvidia have some other funky name for teaming multiple cards?
[21:55] <Azelphur> penguin42: no idea
[21:55] <Azelphur> looks like minecraft runs fine, must be TF2 specific
[21:55] <penguin42> SLI?
[21:56] <diddledan> I think sli is a different thing
[21:56] <Azelphur> nope
[21:56] <Azelphur> SLi is for combining multiple cards to get more power, requires identical cards
[21:56] <penguin42> Twinview?
[21:58] <Azelphur> penguin42: twinview is just that, TWINview
[21:58] <Azelphur> doesn't work for quad
[21:58] <Azelphur> although, it's perfectly capable of doing so, nvidia bricked the driver to try and force quadro cards on people
[22:01] <robotninja> I wish I'd bought two of the monitor I have... Dual monitors would be very nice (I've got two at work) but I have this compulsive need for them to match.
[22:01] <robotninja> There's one on fleabay but they want £120 for it, stuff that
[22:02] <diddledan> I'm on a laptop with a 17in 4:3 and a 24in 16:10 - matching? hah!
[22:02] <daftykins> oh yeah they definitely need to match
[22:02] <daftykins> i think the differing colours would drive me insane otherwise
[22:02] <diddledan> the laptop inbuilt is a 13in 16:9
[22:02] <Azelphur> just get the imported korean ones, 1440p aww yis
[22:02] <Azelphur> or wait 5 minutes and import some 4k ones
[22:03] <Azelphur> https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/2285 hmm, this is my issue
[22:03] <Azelphur> but I don't think RandR can actually do that? I thought RandR was simply a configuration thing
[22:06] <daftykins> yeah i thought it was just for setting your screen setup
[22:18] <penguin42> Azelphur: Out of gentle curiosity, does nouveau work on the cards?
[22:19] <Azelphur> probably, but not with TF2 and the suchlike.
[22:20] <diddledan> -0
[22:20] <Azelphur> and for bonus points, easystroke has broke now too :(
[22:20]  * penguin42 hates to think what easystroke is
[22:20] <Azelphur> mouse gestures
[22:20] <penguin42> oh
[22:20] <daftykins> LOL
[22:21] <daftykins> penguin42: you've been around diddledan too long ;)
[22:21]  * penguin42 looks innocently at daftykins
[22:23] <mapps> hmm
[22:23] <mapps> anyone got a jb ios device?
[22:23] <mapps> cant recall the app to remove restrictions so u can use apps on 3g that are set to wifi only
[22:47] <dogmatic69_> why does 14.04 stop music when the screen locks... dumbest change ever.
[22:47] <dogmatic69_> anyone know how to stop this happening?
[23:21] <Azelphur> Is there any way to make the new IBus Preferences tool in Xubuntu 14.04 go die? it keeps changing my layout to US English even though my system is set to UK Colemak
[23:21] <Azelphur> and even if I set it to UK Colemak, it's still wrong
[23:21] <Azelphur> it seems to think UK Colemak == US Colemak :"
[23:22] <Azelphur> I can't even do angry faces any more, :(
[23:23] <daftykins> D:
[23:25] <Azelphur> I can fix it by going into XFCEs keyboard settings and changing my keyboard layout, then changing it back again, silly IBus thing.
[23:31] <diddledan> Azelphur: I recall there was a bug mentioned about that the other day - check launchpad
[23:31] <Azelphur> fun
[23:31] <Azelphur> diddledan: I'm more miffed about copy paste no longer being functional between X screens. :(
[23:41] <daftykins> !
[23:42] <daftykins> what happens if you overlap a window between, then copy when in the overlap portion? :D
[23:43] <daftykins> heh my PhD physics mate has just got to japan with his new trusty install
[23:43] <daftykins> he's trying to compile this physics prog he uses called ROOT, currently wading through all the issues that trusty is giving him :D
[23:47] <penguin42> travelling on a fresh bleeding edge install
[23:55] <daftykins> yep :D
[23:55] <daftykins> he had major issues with 12.04 though
[23:56] <daftykins> if VGA was connected it'd boot with that only, no internal screen
[23:56] <daftykins> (optimus laptop)
[23:57] <penguin42> ah yes, those are fun
[23:59] <daftykins> same as mine, in fact