[00:00] <[[lutchy]]> trism, the URI stay the same ?
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest94424: pastebin for large pieces of text
[00:00] <ubuntoer> ActionParsnip: live USB
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> ubuntoer: same difference
[00:00] <trism> [[lutchy]]: everything is the same except the prefix, deb -> deb-src
[00:00] <ubuntoer> then yes
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> ubuntoer: you can chroot to the installed Ubuntu OS and reinstate Grub
[00:01] <dioioib> a more in depth article can be found here as well http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2114991
[00:02] <ubuntoer> ActionParsnip: but it`s a newly installed OS, it never worked from disk
[00:02] <catalase> where the fuck can i stream modern family from
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> ubuntoer: does the installed Ubuntu OS boot ok?
[00:02] <catalase> i want to watch the latest episode by hulu is being a prick
[00:02] <zerofiat> hey guys, trying to get a second display up and running.. I've got 2 R9 270x's in this machine with a monitor connected to the dvi-i port on each. While both adapters show up in both the atisysteminforeport and in lspci, I'm getting no love from the second card. I've tried enabling it in amdcccle and after reboot that device is re-disabled. I'm running xubuntu 14.04.
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> catalase: thats nothing to do with Ubuntu support
[00:02] <ubuntoer> ActionParsnip: nope, grub menu shows but it won`t boot ubuntu (cursor blinking forever)
[00:03] <Beldar> !language | catalase
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> ubuntoer: what GPU do you use?
[00:03] <zerofiat> using stock fglrx from software center
[00:04] <ubuntoer> ActionParsnip: Nvidia GTX550Ti... i know it`s not powerful but I think it should run ubuntu
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> ubuntoer: its fine. I run it on a much lesser nvidia
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> ubuntoer: have you tried the boot option: nouvea.blacklist=1
[00:05] <Node_409> hello
[00:05] <Node_409> i think im about to kill myself with this problem
[00:05] <ubuntoer> ActionParsnip: nope
[00:05] <Node_409> i had this fucking issue for two hours now
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> ubuntoer: worth a try
[00:05] <Node_409> im about to pull my hair out
[00:05] <IdleOne> Please stop with the swearing
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> Node_409: keep it family friendly please
[00:06] <Node_409> anyone else had issues with nvidia and a fresh reformat of ubuntu
[00:06] <Node_409> the screen keep changing resolution
[00:06] <Node_409> when i go into settings
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> Node_409: try the boot option: nouvea.blacklist=1
[00:06] <Node_409> or whatever
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> Node_409: or do you actually have the proprietary driver installed and you actually get to the desktop?
[00:07] <zerofiat> afk
[00:07] <ubuntoer> ActionParsnip: ok... to do that I have to type that option directly on grub menu (edit mode), right?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> ubuntoer: yes
[00:07] <ubuntoer> ActionParsnip: nice. lemme try. thank you
[00:07] <Node_409> http://askubuntu.com/questions/317906/ubuntu-randomly-change-resolution-by-itself-to-1024x768
[00:07] <Node_409> this is the issue im having
[00:07] <Node_409> except it's happening all the itme
[00:08] <Node_409> it could take 5 minutes, or 5 seconds
[00:08] <Node_409> whenver i go into my system settings, if i;m in 1024x768 i go into 1920x1080, or vice-versa
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> Node_409: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[00:08] <Node_409> when its in 1024x768 my monitor name is called CRT-0, and in 1080p is my real monitor
[00:09] <Node_409> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> Node_409: tried running: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> Node_409: then rebooting
[00:10] <[[lutchy]]> trism, I really appreciate you helping me thus far, is that right ? http://pastebin.com/BkXL3ZC1 .... I can userstand  better ?
[00:10] <Node_409> i think i did that
[00:10] <Node_409> still
[00:10] <Node_409> im kinda curious nonetheless, how Ubuntu can have such an issue with modern-day computers?
[00:10] <Node_409> are we back in 1998?
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> Node_409: its probably not the computer. My guess is its the screen
[00:11] <Node_409> no its not
[00:11]  * dw1 loves Ubuntu
[00:11] <Node_409> i changed screen, and to the integrated cpu graphics
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> Node_409: im betting it isnt reporting EDID properly
[00:12] <Node_409> some stupid programmer at ubuntu HQ decided it would be a good idea to "auto detect" the screen resolutions wheneve ryou went into system settings, or used any application in ubuntu
[00:12] <Node_409> instead of just asking " SIR, WHAT RESOLUTION DO YOU WISH TO HAVE ?"
[00:12] <martianlobster> I am using 12.04  update-manager does not see 12.10   How can I make it see 12.10 so I can upgrade?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Node_409: i suggest you make an xorg.conf using the command I gave. You may need to play with the settings til you get an ok output
[00:12] <Node_409> yes
[00:12] <Node_409> i created a xorg.conf file as you said now
[00:13] <Node_409> still, i went into sudo nvidia-settings
[00:13] <Node_409> and choose frmo "resoution : auto" to "1920x1080"
[00:13] <Node_409> shit didnt save tho
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> martianlobster: you need to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal
[00:13] <Node_409> so after i have written that command, what should i do after
[00:13] <daftykins> keep the language friendly please.
[00:14] <martianlobster> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> martianlobster: then run: sudo do-release-upgrade
[00:14] <martianlobster> thx again!
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> Node_409: reboot and see if the xorg.conf makes things nice
[00:14] <savid> I'm experiencing a very frustrating issue with my bluetooth keyboard. It has fresh batteries, but every once in awhile the power management icon says the keyboard has low battery then it disconnects the keyboard.
[00:14] <Node_409> okay
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> martianlobster: default of LTS is to look for the next LTS so you now told it to look for the between releases
[00:15] <martianlobster> ok cool
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> martianlobster: id just wait til 14.04.1 then you can upgrade LTS tobLTS
[00:16] <Node_243> im back again
[00:16] <martianlobster> I kind of broke my box. I have no toolbar and only one workspace
[00:17] <Node_243> well, the FDE screen is in the wrong resolution, so was my login screen, when i came in desktop it was 1080p
[00:17] <martianlobster> I was hoping  an upgrade would fix it
[00:17] <Node_243> then when i was logging into chat
[00:17] <Node_243> the screen went black for around 20 seconds
[00:17] <Node_243> and still 1080p
[00:17] <Node_243> does that mean its fixed? i have had so much of this in 2 hours now that i think its normal
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: then run: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: if its normal then you are done
[00:18] <Node_243> no it is not normal
[00:18] <Node_243> its not fucking supposed to switch around resolution giving me seizures every minute
[00:18] <Node_243> thats not normal
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: ok then edit the file and start playing with settings
[00:19] <Node_243> ok im calm
[00:19] <Node_243> now what do i do next, master
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: if you rename the xorg.conf file and reboot, you can read /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: see what happens as the X server is setup
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: or you can edit xorg.conf and look for samples online for how you can edit the file.
[00:22] <Node_243> oaky
[00:23] <Node_243> i renamed it
[00:23] <Node_243> and i opened it
[00:23] <Node_243> now it was empty
[00:23] <Node_243> what do i do next, master ?
[00:24] <IdleOne> drop the attitude and reboot, then check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if anything pops out at you.
[00:24] <Blaster> Hey I'm trying to install Windows 7 in a Virtualbox on Ubuntu 14.04.   I have a Windows 7 CD in the cd-rom drive, but it's not listed on Virtualbox's bootable media list.  All I see is "Host Drive" listed.   What do I need to do for Vbox to recognize the CD?
[00:24] <Node_243> okay
[00:25] <Node_243> the resolution doesnt seem to switch around anymore
[00:25] <Node_243> it just goes black for a second or two
[00:25] <Node_243> like it used to before, when switching
[00:26] <ka>  how can i make minecraft.jar executable
[00:26] <Node_243> im pretty new to ubuntu
[00:26] <Node_243> there are loads of text in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:26] <ka> me?
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> Ka: if you like, if you make a launcher to: java /path/to/minecraft.jar ,it can be used in Unity easily
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> Ka: there isna guide how to add it with a PPA.
[00:27] <ka> ok so thats java jar or waht
[00:27] <Node_243> actionparsnip the savior of ubuntu, how shall i proceed next
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: yes its the X server coming up, look for errors and warnings
[00:28] <Node_243> where do i look for errors
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: in the log file.....where else?
[00:29] <ka> Error: Could not find or load main class .home.karen.Downloads.Minecraft.jar
[00:29] <Node_243> i cleaned the log file
[00:29] <Node_243> and now im replecating the issue
[00:29] <Node_243> yet nothing is appearing in the logs
[00:30] <Node_243> can you tell me, what function is used when im pressing on "System settings" or "monitor"
[00:30] <Node_243> because when i press
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Ka: does: java /home/karen/Downloads/Minecraft.jar ,work?
[00:30] <Node_243> screen goes black for a second or two
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: if you are using the Nvidia proprietary drivers you want to be using nvidia-settings
[00:31] <ka> thats the path
[00:31] <ka> im positive
[00:31] <Node_243> okay
[00:31] <Node_243> i went sudo nvidia-settings now
[00:31] <Node_243> what do i do there?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> Ka: yes, does it work?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: setup the display there....
[00:31] <ka> no Error: Could not find or load main class .home.karen.Downloads.Minecraft.jar
[00:32] <Node_243> but what am i supposed to setup
[00:32] <Node_243> resolution is set at auto
[00:32] <Node_243> shall i place it at my res i want?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Ka: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: yes...what else could it be?
[00:32] <ka> Error: Could not find or load main class .home.karen.Downloads.Minecraft.jar
[00:32] <ka> thats output
[00:33] <Node_243> Save to X.configuration file?
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: the application is called 'nvidia-settings' so what else could it possibly be?
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> Ka: no, again. What is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[00:33] <ka> oh sorry
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> Ka: /etc/issue will have nothing to do with Minecraft ;)
[00:34] <Node_243> okay
[00:34] <ka> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[00:34] <Node_243> i have setup with nvidia-settings now
[00:34] <Node_243> and saved to x.org
[00:34] <ka> y
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: so what else could it be used for if its not for resolution settings?
[00:35] <Node_243> but
[00:35] <Node_243> when i restart nvidia-settings
[00:35] <Node_243> the settings i placed, arent there anymore ?
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> Ka: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/minecraft-installer-for-ubuntu
[00:36] <Node_243> and how is this exactly going to fix my issue
[00:36] <Node_243> with ubuntu detecting, something weird
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: if you wrote to xorg.conf then restart X or reboot and it should apply
[00:36] <Node_243> whenever i go to system settings, etc, screen goes black and my monitor name changes to CRT-0
[00:37] <Node_243> and when i shut down system settings
[00:37] <Node_243> and go into it again
[00:37] <Node_243> its back to the regular name
[00:37] <Node_243> and so forth
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: sounds like the monitor isnt reporting edid properly
[00:37] <Node_243> okay?
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: maybe the cable is bad
[00:38] <Node_243> its ubuntu
[00:38] <Node_243> not my cable
[00:38] <hallwaxer> hi there, i have an issue with connecting to a location on my network.  I enter the ip - smb://198.168.1.xx (obviously, I don't enter xx), and i'm getting a blank folder.  Interestingly, it worked only 20 minutes ago.  Any ideas/suggestions?
[00:38] <Node_243> this mess, of a operating system, completely unstable and cant even run on prop drivers without issues, jesus christ man
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: ive used nvidia from my first day in Linux and never had an issue. The only time ive seen video issues is with cheap screen and monitors.
[00:39] <Node_243> i had ubuntu before
[00:39] <Node_243> sasme screen, different video card
[00:39] <Node_243> no issues at all
[00:39] <ne0> hi
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: then it could be a bug in the new version. It is very young
[00:40] <Node_243> no
[00:40] <Node_243> i used a 13.04 one
[00:40] <Node_243> from my laptop to my main
[00:40] <Node_243> and tried with that
[00:40] <Node_243> same issue
[00:40] <Node_243> but i thought that it would work if i reformat
[00:40] <Node_243> with the newer version
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: if it worked in older versions and not the newer one then it could be a bug
[00:41] <Node_243> how odd, windows beats ubuntu on this one - doesnt come with hardware compability issues, which i thought it would be #1 at combating
[00:41] <Node_243> it didnt work in 13.04
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: not sure how an OS beats another...sounds hilarious
[00:42] <Node_243> im sure it doesnt take 3 hours to get a video card working in windows
[00:42] <hallwaxer> ActionParsnip: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=windows&word2=ubuntu
[00:42] <Node_243> im probably certain, my current version of ubuntu, has like 10 video drivers, because of how shitbuntu is coded nowadays
[00:43] <Node_243> im outt
[00:43] <Node_243> thanks for not helping
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: depends on the video card. Ever tried to get a trident cyberblade to work in windows 7..?
[00:43] <happyfr0gg> The Application Finder app on my Ubuntu system is not working.
[00:43] <Node_243> no you're stupid
[00:43] <Node_243> ubuntu is stupid
[00:43] <Node_243> fuck you all kids
[00:43]  * hallwaxer giggles
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: see ya
[00:43] <Node_243> go cry about language somewhere lse
[00:43] <Node_243> so you can have your minecraft kids
[00:43] <Node_243> come ask questions about how to install the shit
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: youbstill here?
[00:43] <Node_243> on your shit system
[00:44] <Node_243> because they cant afford windows
[00:44] <Node_243> yeah kill yourself
[00:44] <Node_243> faggot
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: still here?
[00:44] <Node_243> nigger jew asshole
[00:44] <karstensrage> lol
[00:44] <Node_243> nigger fuck face jew shit face indian piece of shit
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> !ops
[00:44] <Node_243> heil hitler
[00:44] <hallwaxer> easily the best decision to join this channel at this point
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Node_243: bye
[00:44] <Aki-Thinkpad> hallwaxer, that is one way of looking at it
[00:44] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: That's not really necessary.
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: i earned it :)
[00:45] <happyfr0gg> How do I fix my Application Finder in KDE?  It is broken.
[00:45] <hallwaxer> hi there, i have an issue with connecting to a location on my network.  I enter the ip - smb://198.168.1.xx (obviously, I don't enter xx), and i'm getting a blank folder.  Interestingly, it worked only 20 minutes ago.  Any ideas/suggestions?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> happyfr0gg: in thenstart menu style thing?
[00:45] <hallwaxer> I've had it on a blank folder for approx 5-8 minutes, possibly 10 now.
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> hallwaxer: what OS is the server?
[00:45] <hallwaxer> ubuntu is 14.04, windows is....
[00:45] <hallwaxer> one moment
[00:46] <happyfr0gg> ActionParsnip - please say that again. I don't understand what you meant.
[00:46] <hallwaxer> windows 7 home premium
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> hallwaxer: so the system younare connecting to is Windows?
[00:46] <hallwaxer> yes
[00:47] <hallwaxer> it's to backup my files before i format and install
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> happyfr0gg: what is this application finder? Is it software centre?
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> hallwaxer: have younchecked event viewer in Windows? Have you tried rebooting the system?
[00:47] <[[lutchy]]> I can't find dev packages for flex, or lex
[00:47] <[[lutchy]]> Uh
[00:48] <[[lutchy]]> It's a bit irritating ....
[00:48] <happyfr0gg> ActionParsnip - no. It provides a listing of all apps on my Kubuntu system and can launch them.
[00:48] <robin_> need a little help with a dual monitor setup... kinda lost.
[00:49] <hallwaxer> ActionParsnip - i don't know what event viewer is or how to look at it, I do hear 'noises' from windows as i try and connect, but it's the same noise whether or not it's successful.  Should I reboot windows or Ubuntu.  I should point out that for now, I'm using ubuntu-live as I'm trying to backup the remaining files before I install and format.  Or perhaps the other way around.
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> happyfr0gg: is it the ALT+F2 menu in KDE?
[00:49] <[[lutchy]]> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/flex/
[00:49] <[[lutchy]]> What's the DEV packages?
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> hallwaxer: you've never looked in the event viewer in Windows?
[00:50] <[R]> what is the difference between nvidia-331 and nvidia-331-updates?
[00:50] <hallwaxer> nope, never needed to
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> hallwaxer: not worked much with windows huh
[00:50] <hallwaxer> all my life?
[00:50]  * hallwaxer shrugs
[00:50] <georgeclooney> hey guys my software center refuses to start?
[00:50] <trism> [[lutchy]]: what dev package? just need the binaries to general lexers right? they are in the flex package
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> hallwaxer: when you get windows issues (especially in server) you head straight to the logs
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> hallwaxer: im guessing you havent managed servers then
[00:51] <hallwaxer> nope
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> hallwaxer: yep, desktop user.
[00:51] <[[lutchy]]> me and friend is trying to build a pckage from source, the dependency is flex or lex
[00:51] <dw1> georgeclooney: any good error messages when you run "software-center" from terminal?
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> hallwaxer: start with a reboot, windows likes that
[00:52] <trism> [[lutchy]]: then apt-get install flex; should do the job
[00:52] <hallwaxer> I have my own VPS which I use for my website, but that's not windows based - server or otherwise
[00:52] <dw1> georgeclooney: pastebin it
[00:52] <happyfr0gg> ActionParsnip - No.  The error dialog I get says: Could not load menu from (null)  File "menus/kde-applications.menu" not found
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> happyfr0gg: id ask in #kde and see how to resolve that, they may know
[00:55] <[[lutchy]]> trism, 'configure: error: could not locate a suitable lexical generator, install flex or lex.'
[00:56] <[[lutchy]]> alright
[00:56] <trism> [[lutchy]]: what are you building?
[00:56] <[[lutchy]]> thanks trism, that did it
[00:56] <[[lutchy]]> IRCD
[00:57] <[[lutchy]]> The guy I am working with just told something and I was looking for the wrong thing
[00:57] <[[lutchy]]> I told him just, let see the ./configure script, just install the flex did it
[00:58] <andrew> hi\
[00:59] <georgeclooney> butts
[00:59] <georgeclooney> butts
[00:59] <georgeclooney> butts
[00:59] <georgeclooney> butts
[00:59] <georgeclooney> butts
[00:59] <georgeclooney> butts
[00:59] <georgeclooney> butts
[00:59] <unopaste> georgeclooney you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[00:59] <andrew> any one gay ?
[01:00] <StephenS> !ops
[01:00] <dagroves> I dont think this is the channel to ask about that
[01:00] <butts> butts
[01:00] <andrew> no gays ?
[01:00] <andrew> ok
[01:00] <elky> andrew: this is a technical support channel, that's an inappropriate question
[01:01] <andrew> see were the love is
[01:01] <dagroves> I am but why does that matter here?
[01:01] <andrew> oh ok.
[01:01] <dagroves> There are plenty of other channels for that
[01:01] <andrew> such  as ? also i sent a a message.
[01:02] <rww> andrew: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. It is not a channel-finding service. Ask elsewhere.
[01:03] <andrew> ok
[01:03] <andrew> how can i theme unity ?
[01:03] <BrianH> Hey guys.  How can I perform an upgrade from the install DVD?
[01:04] <dw1> BrianH: boot it and click Install should offer upgrade
[01:04] <andrew> if can theme unity let me know ok ?
[01:06] <nnnetboy> hi
[01:06] <nnnetboy> hello
[01:06] <BrianH> dw1: It only gives me the open to erase the disk, or "Something else" which just allows me to repartition the drives.
[01:06] <dw1> BrianH: hrm well i gave it my best guess. :P
[01:06] <dw1> BrianH: saw it suggested on the web for past versions
[01:07] <hallwaxer> how good is ubuntu with steam games now?
[01:07] <dw1> im sure a guru will answer soon :)
[01:07] <hallwaxer> is it comparable with windows in terms of performance and functionality/compatibility?
[01:08] <dw1> hallwaxer: its been good for a while i think
[01:08] <BrianH> dw1: I did something stupid and I'm trying to recover from it.  I've been having a headache of a time since the upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04, so I thought purging ubuntu-desktop and reinstalling would help.  Now I can't get the system to boot to X.
[01:09] <dw1> BrianH: ahh thats another matter then.... hmm
[01:10] <BrianH> It hangs on a black screen with a blinking terminal cursor.
[01:11] <dw1> BrianH: no boot menu to get to recovery mode ?
[01:12] <BrianH> I can boot to recovery from grub and drop to root
[01:13] <BrianH> I've tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop and it says it's installed.  But it won't boot past the black screen with a blinking cursor when I attempt to boot normally.
[01:13] <dw1> BrianH: anything good at the bottom of /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[01:14] <BrianH> dw1: I'll check ...
[01:14] <Pessimist> BrianH, "won't boot past the black screen with a blinking cursor" says no information to us
[01:15] <dw1> BrianH: you might also try startx from prompt
[01:15] <dagroves> Can someone tell me how to make the XChat indicator show up in the task bar or whatever it is called on Elementary OS, no one is talking in their channel
[01:15] <dw1> BrianH: recovery shell prompt
[01:16] <spearson> Hi
[01:16] <dw1> dagroves: whats Elementary OS?  Ubuntu?
[01:16] <Pessimist> dagroves, elementary os is not supported here
[01:16] <spearson> how do I get right click on a Mac?
[01:16] <hallwaxer> buy a mouse
[01:16] <hallwaxer> or install windows
[01:16] <dagroves> I didnt think it was... argh their channel is dead
[01:16] <hallwaxer> (sorry, that was harsh).. option click I believe
[01:16] <spearson> I can plug in a mouse but how do I do it using the mouse botton and the control key?
[01:17] <spearson> didn't work for me
[01:17] <hallwaxer> command click/control click?
[01:17] <Deihmos> my laptop is so slow with ubuntu. There is a delay in everything I do. Scroling webpages is really slow
[01:17] <spearson> windows sux
[01:17] <hallwaxer> it's supposed to be one of those
[01:17] <spearson> hmmm
[01:17] <dw1> spearson: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=921609 looks useful
[01:17] <dw1> spearson: kind of old tho
[01:17] <spearson> ?
[01:18] <spearson> sorry
[01:18] <spearson> I 'll look
[01:18] <spearson> I tried what the last post instructed but it doesn't work
[01:18] <spearson> I logged out and logged back in
[01:18] <spearson> would I have to restart?
[01:19] <spearson> using ubuntu 13.10
[01:19] <BrianH> dw1: Interesting.  It's hitting a fatal error, "no screens found(EE)" and then terminates.  Just before that, it shows a bunch of UnloadModules with "(EE) Device(s) detected, but none match those in the config file"
[01:19] <queazy> Hi.  "http://imgur.com/ueNZ2BD"  How can I stop the screen from cutting off the edge of the TV when I use an HDMI cable to connect it to my PC (which is running Xubuntu 14.04)?  Part list at "http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3weiH", except flatscreen samsung tv, which has both VGA + HDMI inputs
[01:19] <MillionsOfApples> does anyone know how to resolve issues related to the touchpad totally failing to be detected and to work properly? i'm also having issues with chrome freezing things forcing me to shutdown and reboot all the time
[01:20] <hallwaxer> spearson oh, i just understood - you're using a macbook with ubuntu?  sorry, I thought you were a mac/osx user and just were being lazy posting in here... my bad!
[01:20] <BrianH> I'll try reinstalling the drivers.
[01:20] <spearson> yup, MacBook
[01:20] <spearson> I can dual boot into OS X or ubuntu and want to get the right click functionality
[01:21] <spearson> in ubuntu
[01:21] <dw1> BrianH: couple things to possibly try here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1712377  but i think you want service lightdm restart not gdm
[01:21] <hallwaxer> queazy - I've had that problem forever on hdmi.  I think it's something to do with overscanning, but short of manually changing it, I don't know how to fix it properly
[01:22] <dw1> BrianH: perhaps install nvidia-current if you have an nvidia card
[01:22] <hallwaxer> although i'd love to know how, it's been bugging me for years.
[01:22] <queazy> hallwaxer:  I am new to Xubuntu, but I was recommended to try Xrandr.  It seems the "--scale xxy" command might be what I am looking for, but I am so new to how to use this stuff, I do not know what values to even put in there.
[01:23] <BrianH> dw1: I have the nvidia drivers, installing them now.
[01:23] <spearson> #hallwaxer, any solution of getting right click? I followed the instruction on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=921609
[01:23] <Blaster> Is there a way to switch fullscreen apps between screens?   When I make my Virtualbox VM fullscreen, it forces it to the left screen but I'd prefer it on the right.
[01:23] <spearson> and it didn't work logged out and logged back in
[01:23] <spearson> would I have to restart?
[01:24] <hallwaxer> queazy - i'm not sure, I've never used xubuntu, same with that program - I've always just decided to live with not being able to use the edges..   spearson - sorry mate, i've no idea.  I think a restart might be worth trying if the fix 'should' work, but beyond that, I couldn't tell you, I've only ever hackintoshed, not the other way around.
[01:24] <Blaster> Sorry, I got booted.  Did anyone respond to my question?
[01:25] <spearson> il reboot and let you know
[01:26] <queazy> Would anyone know how to use the "--scale xxy" command of Xrandr?  I have no clue what values to put where, and would like to attempt to use it to shrink displayed area of monitor.  Thank you.
[01:27] <hallwaxer> queazy - have you tried youtubing it? sounds weird, but people put tutorials for everything on there now.  Everything that's SFW anyway
[01:28] <queazy> hallwaxer:  I actually did, but not very thouroughly.  I will try again.  Thank you very much.
[01:29] <BrianH> dw1: fixed it, thanks for the help. :)
[01:29] <dw1> BrianH: cool np
[01:32] <Node_379> hello, could someone please help me with an x.org issue
[01:33] <Node_379> my screen goes black for two seconds when i enter system settings
[01:33] <Node_379> it's ticking me off
[01:34] <Node_379> same if i press my volume button, then go to sound settings
[01:34] <Node_379> it goes black for two secnods
[01:35] <lazar> guys, how to install u1 on xubuntu
[01:35] <lazar> ?
[01:35] <lazar> !u1
[01:36] <lazar> !ubuntuone
[01:36] <django> How can I create css file ubuntu terminal?
[01:36] <lazar> #ubuntuone
[01:50] <puppy> 0.0
[01:51] <puppy> 能说中文么...
[01:51] <cfhowlett> !cn|puppy
[01:52] <darius93> question: how reliable are the opensource gpu drivers for 14.04?
[01:52] <cfhowlett> darius93 they're free.  install and test for yoursefl.
[01:54] <darius93> cfhowlett, i know its free lol its on by default on ubuntu, but I mean overall performance compared to proprietary drivers
[01:54] <rww> depends on card, you're better off testing this :)
[01:54] <cfhowlett> darius93 so far as I know, no such definitive study exists.
[01:55] <darius93> hmm well one thing i notice is that the glxgears runs at ~60FPS while on proprietary its at +500FPS?
[01:56] <c|oneman> 60fps limit sounds like v-sync.
[01:56] <Aki-Thinkpad> !14.10
[01:58] <darius93> hmm
[02:00] <b9000> I need to invent a time machine, then go back in time and kick my past self in the face so hard that I can't see straight until optimus support is rock solid.
[02:02] <wheresmypaaants> oh shit
[02:02] <b9000> i love that show
[02:02] <wheresmypaaants> wait
[02:02] <wheresmypaaants> nvm
[02:02] <wheresmypaaants> excuse my french
[02:02] <wheresmypaaants> sorry
[02:02] <wheresmypaaants> i forgot
[02:02] <unopaste> wheresmypaaants you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[02:02] <b9000> lol
[02:03] <veryhappy> that's funny
[02:03] <rom1504> :D
[02:03] <veryhappy> artificial intelligence/bots, only doing funny things
[02:03] <rom1504> on irc yeah
[02:03] <wheresmypaaants> Sorry
[02:04] <wheresmypaaants> My new client says MSG like normal chat
[02:04] <wheresmypaaants> So my nickserv identify,
[02:04] <wheresmypaaants> well,
[02:04] <wheresmypaaants> freaked me out
[02:04] <wheresmypaaants> :P
[02:04] <veryhappy> you may not write too many lines
[02:04] <b9000> slow down
[02:04] <cfhowlett> wheresmypaaants STOP ENTER KEY
[02:04] <LoRez> stop using enter so much
[02:04] <wheresmypaaants> im a monster.... i'll shutup...
[02:04] <cfhowlett> wheresmypaaants trolling in this IRC is not appreciated.  play somewhere else
[02:04] <veryhappy> wheresmypaaants: write a text, after you got your text done, hit enter, that's it, don't enter too many lines, cause otherwise you get muted
[02:05] <wheresmypaaants> im not trying to troll... i didn't realize i was spamming until i finished
[02:05] <veryhappy> ok, good, now you know, now everybody let's get relaxed again, he's learned his lesson
[02:05] <dweez> veryhappy: And knowing is half the battle. G.I. JOE!!!
[02:05] <veryhappy> knowing what?
[02:05] <veryhappy> :D
[02:06] <wheresmypaaants> Does anyone else like the new GNOME? At first I found it a bit ugly, but I'm coming around to find it perty
[02:06] <c|oneman> no
[02:06] <wheresmypaaants> okay
[02:06] <veryhappy> hey guys, i have to say i'm surprised... i could install with the minimal ubuntu 12.04 amd64 image earlier, now it doesn't work anymore and alternate amd64 image for 12.04 is broken as well.
[02:07] <hallwaxer> does this mean that you're not veryhappy?
[02:07] <Senor> ipvsadm not working on ubuntu
[02:07] <veryhappy> hallwaxer: :D i'm happy as long as it get fixed :P
[02:08] <darius93> how do i disable vsync with the opensource drivers (or atleast the path to the config since it looks different than how it use to be)
[02:08] <cfhowlett> !details|veryhappy "broken"?
[02:08] <veryhappy> ok
[02:08] <Senor> ipvsadm not working on ubuntu
[02:08] <b9000> is there a way to paste from console? I only have lynx for a browser
[02:09] <cfhowlett> b9000
[02:09] <veryhappy> b9000: apt-get install pastebinit
[02:09] <cfhowlett> !paste
[02:09] <veryhappy> cfhowlett: you're not really quite helpful, you could have named him the name
[02:09] <b9000> yes I know i need to use the site, but I don't know how to do that if I don't have a gui browser.
[02:09] <veryhappy> of the program
[02:09] <b9000> oh i see that second part now
[02:10] <b9000> !pastebinit
[02:10] <veryhappy> b9000: use apt-get install pastebinit
[02:10] <veryhappy> ok
[02:10] <b9000> roger
[02:10] <veryhappy> glad i could help
[02:10] <lvfjf> b9000: are you using minix?
[02:11] <b9000> not even sure what that is
[02:11] <Moonlikestars> hi
[02:11] <asdqwer> hello
[02:11] <Moonlikestars> :)
[02:12] <Moonlikestars> what is that thing at the top
[02:12] <veryhappy> @all: using 12.04 amd64 minimal image doesn't load the packages from the mirror and gets stuck at this point, using 12.04 amd64 alternate image and making an integrity check gives me "kernel-image" is broken - i used for both images an usb storage and this one is ok
[02:13] <DQSII> where can i get a good system sensor program to monitor cpu swap and temp all in one ?
[02:13] <cfhowlett> veryhappy your ISO is bad = download / torrent it again.
[02:13] <DQSII> for 14.04
[02:13] <veryhappy> cfhowlett: did twice, didn't help
[02:13] <jessie8> i have conky
[02:14] <cfhowlett> veryhappy where did you get your ISO?
[02:14] <veryhappy> someone downloaded it for me / 2nd time i downloaded by myself
[02:14] <jessie8> cfhowlett: i have 14.04 now and debian jessie
[02:14] <DQSII> i have that too but i wanna get something for my upper bar as well
[02:15] <cfhowlett> veryhappy get the ISO yourself from www.ubuntu.com    veriify the ISO with md5sum.  burn the ISO to a USB and verify the USB
[02:15] <krabador> ok people, 14.04 have troubles.
[02:15] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | veryhappy
[02:15] <krabador> and many
[02:16] <cfhowlett> !details|krabador
[02:17] <veryhappy> cfhowlett: don't you find it strange that the md5sum shall be broken both times at different downloads from different pcs?
[02:18] <rww> no, it just means your connection isn't great
[02:18] <cfhowlett> veryhappy yes.  that's why you follow the verification steps I listed.
[02:18] <veryhappy> so you mean i shall try it and then report an error?
[02:18] <cfhowlett> veryhappy and that's why you TORRENT those files, not download.  torrent has better CRC correction then DL does
[02:18] <veryhappy> rww: you didn't read straight
[02:19] <veryhappy> ok, so i shall try to torrent that file?
[02:20] <veryhappy> what's a good program for ubuntu to torrent files
[02:20] <rww> transmission, deluge, ktorrent, ...
[02:20] <Moonlikestars> hi
[02:20] <veryhappy> Moonlikestars: you got a problem?
[02:20] <Dante> hey is anyone aware of a way I can open a mdb file in Open Office? or any other software on Lubuntu
[02:21] <benzrf> HelloWor1d:
[02:21] <benzrf> *hello
[02:21] <benzrf> i just upgraded to tahr, haven't rebooted yet though
[02:21] <cfhowlett> Dante libreofficebase
[02:21] <benzrf> the default font (in firefox at least) seems to replace certain 2-letter pairs with weird glyphs
[02:21] <Dante> cfhowlett: it doesn't open mdb file
[02:21] <Moonlikestars> i do not have a problem
[02:22] <b9000> yay I figured it out http://paste.ubuntu.com/7341924 (relevant bits of my kern.log) http://paste.ubuntu.com/7341943 (Xorg.0.log) I have no pointer also
[02:22] <Moonlikestars> no one talk to veryhappy
[02:23] <veryhappy> Moonlikestars: this is a support channel if you want to talk privately use off-topic
[02:23] <spearson> Hi, i'm trying to figure out how to get right click on a MacBook without a mouse
[02:23] <cfhowlett> Moonlikestars this is the support channel.  socializing and chitchat elsewhere
[02:23] <darius93> spearson
[02:23] <johnmurica> hello
[02:23] <darius93> the touch pad should be like how the mouse use to work
[02:24] <darius93> lower left = left click, etc
[02:24] <spearson> I tried the instructions here ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=921609&p=7111119#post7111119 and rebooted and didn't seem to allow it
[02:24] <Moonlikestars> you guys are so rude
[02:24] <Dante> cfhowlett: it says to connect to an existing database but MS Access is not one of the options
[02:24] <ssfdre38> darius93: its not its 2 fingers and then click on the lower part of the track pad
[02:24] <johnmurica> im wondering, is it possible to run one monitor through pci-e graphics card, and another through built in cpu graphics card (the video slot in the motherboard)
[02:24] <ssfdre38> i have a mac book pro
[02:24] <cfhowlett> !topic > Moonlikestars
[02:24] <johnmurica> im trying it at the moment
[02:24] <spearson> left click works fine but trying figure out right click
[02:24] <johnmurica> but my second monitor, is just black, it has a signal though
[02:25] <ssfdre38> spearson: 2 fingers on the bottom part of your track pad will do it
[02:25] <spearson> ahh thanks :)
[02:25] <cfhowlett> !info mdbtools > Dante
[02:25] <b9000> Did I forget to say what my problem was?
[02:25] <veryhappy> b9000: seems so
[02:25] <cfhowlett> Dante mdbtools looks the the package you want
[02:25] <Dante> thanks cfhowlett
[02:26] <b9000> I cannot get the greeter to load. I just get this message about low-graphics mode
[02:26] <johnmurica> does anyone have a solution
[02:26] <stalemidget> hai
[02:26] <greeter> hmm. never thought i'd get a false positive for highlights in here
[02:27] <Technicality> i'm trying to convert line spacing gedit plugin to pluma and there is a "'NameError: global name 'GCONF_KEY' is not defined" I imported gconf, and that is okay but still receive NameError with GCONF_KEY. Otherwise if there already exists a line spacing plugin for pluma that will be even better.
[02:27] <johnmurica> im trying to run two monitors - one has black screen, got a signal though but doesnt show up in ubuntu
[02:27] <b9000> I thank anyone that can help. I know most of you are just volunteers and do this because you enjoy helping us
[02:27] <b9000> lol
[02:28] <stalemidget> I'll stop changing my nick, I didn't realize it sent the message out ALL THE TIME
[02:28] <johnmurica> anyone have solutiooooooon
[02:28] <johnmurica> rip in pepperonis
[02:29] <cfhowlett> !patience|johnmurica
[02:37] <veryhappy> i'll come back later when i don't find a solution take care, thanks
[03:08] <sandrine> hello
[03:09] <sandrine> im using fdisk, in fdisk i have to display the partition types list
[03:09] <sandrine> but the matter is i can't use a | less/ more to display entire list
[03:09] <sandrine> anyone can help? thx
[03:17] <wgiyhgy_sjg> Hi. Can somebody help me set up hibernation with an encyrpted swap on 14.04?
[03:18] <wgiyhgy_sjg> I've been following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnableHibernateWithEncryptedSwap but some of the files it asks me to modify don't even exist
[03:18] <owen1> I get 'Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/fcitx-team/nightly/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found' when i run apt-get update. any advide?
[03:18] <owen1> (it's for a package called fcitx-sogoupinyin)
[03:18] <holstein> owen1: purge the ppa
[03:18] <holstein> !info ppa-purge
[03:19] <owen1> holstein: ok. but how will i install that package without this ppa?
[03:19] <holstein> owen1: you can maintain a PPA, or install it as the creators suggest
[03:19] <owen1> holstein: where do i find the suggestion by it's creator? is it https://launchpad.net/~fcitx-team/+archive/nightly ?
[03:20] <holstein> owen1: whoever is reponsible for fcitx-sogoupinyin.. probably not the ppa maintainer
[03:21] <owen1> holstein: awesome. thanks a lot. i see a name there - Aron Xu
[03:24] <owen1> i just run 'whois on his nick' but i didn't see any channels that he is in.
[03:24] <wgiyhgy_sjg> What script does 14.04 use instead of /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh for hibernation?
[03:24] <holstein> owen1: might not be an irc nick
[03:25] <owen1> happyaron. i see his name when i run /whois
[03:25] <owen1> it say idle for 1 day
[03:27] <NathanW> anyone have an idea on why df -h is showing a different size to parted http://i.imgur.com/AwFWrxn.png
[03:28] <wgiyhgy_sjg> Does anybody have any idea where I could find information about the hibernation process in 14.04? I need to modify the hibernate and the resume scripts to make them use an encrypted swap
[03:30] <neonpinkcrayon> How can one update from the command line?
[03:30] <kostkon> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:30] <holstein> neonpinkcrayon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:30] <neonpinkcrayon> Two different answers, hmmm...
[03:31] <Ben64> !dist-upgrade
[03:31] <holstein> ^ either of those, really.. dont need the dist-upgrade. but, you should *always* research commands *before* running them
[03:31] <Ben64> both are correct, dist-upgrade goes a bit more
[03:31] <Ninjawarrior> Hi everyone
[03:31] <neonpinkcrayon> holstein: Pfft, boring technique, if you don't research them, when stuff goes wrong you remember it so much more vividly.
[03:32] <Ninjawarrior> I installed lamp via the commend line and it provided me with php 5.5.  Im not happy about this as I wanted 5.3 or 5.4
[03:32] <holstein> neonpinkcrayon: as long as you realize, you are ultimately responsible, and there are different ways to upgrade in the command line
[03:32] <Ninjawarrior> what is a good solution to change php version?
[03:33] <neonpinkcrayon> holstein: I can't sue someone? :( It is against my American heritage!
[03:33] <neonpinkcrayon> Anyway, cause this thingie keeps popping up going... "like, do you wanna upgrade!? DO YOU!?"...
[03:35] <neonpinkcrayon> holstein: So, thanks, although I'd tried everything there except the dist-upgrade, which I assume will remove the evil pop-up which is giving me stress... windows, appearing, over my terminal. Ruining my day.
[03:36] <holstein> depends on what popup
[03:37] <T_> hi
[03:38] <neonpinkcrayon> Btw, anyone got cinnamon working? cause it jams up for me big time.
[03:38] <neonpinkcrayon> I much prefer that to unity.
[03:39] <holstein> neonpinkcrayon: you using it from the repos?
[03:39] <neonpinkcrayon> "the repos"?
[03:39] <neonpinkcrayon> You mean, apt-get install?
[03:39] <holstein> neonpinkcrayon: have you added a 3rd party ppa for cinnamon support? the 3rd party will ideally support it, if so
[03:39] <neonpinkcrayon> ppa?
[03:39] <holstein> !ppa
[03:40] <neonpinkcrayon> You mean, use a PPA?
[03:40] <B_> Just installed 14.04 works fine but after 5 minutes it freezes
[03:40] <holstein> neonpinkcrayon: im asking if you are using a PPA
[03:40] <neonpinkcrayon> holstein: I don't think so.
[03:40] <holstein> neonpinkcrayon: i would try as another user, to test my user config
[03:40] <neonpinkcrayon> holstein: Hmm, good idea.
[03:40] <Danato> neonpinkcrayon: can you tell exactly how did you install Cinnamon?
[03:41] <neonpinkcrayon> Geesh, how do I change windows when I have multiple terminals? (Hence my desire to cinnamon~.
[03:41] <rww> Alt-~
[03:41] <neonpinkcrayon> Right, thanks.
[03:41] <neonpinkcrayon> Ah, apt-get install cinnamon it was.
[03:42] <rww> (same in gnome-shell, in case you ever switch to that)
[03:42] <neonpinkcrayon> All worked fine, it appears at the login and is selectable, selection occurs, soon as you click the menu... goodbye cruel world... frozen.
[03:42] <neonpinkcrayon> rww: I blame this laptop keyboard. It's ~ is in another galaxy.
[03:42] <Danato> neonpinkcrayon: then you had to use a ppa, because if you only use "apt-get install cinnamon" it will give you an error message, saying that cinnamon was not found
[03:43] <rww> neonpinkcrayon: ouch
[03:43] <neonpinkcrayon> Danato: Oh?
[03:43] <holstein> !info cinnamon
[03:43] <neonpinkcrayon> Wth.
[03:43] <holstein> i thought it was added.. anyways, you'll need to ask the maintainers of the packages for support
[03:43] <neonpinkcrayon> So, I managed to setup a PPA-wachamacallit and now I got cinnamon from theres like...
[03:44] <Danato> neonpinkcrayon: Cinnamon is not in Ubuntu's repositories, you had to add a ppa in order to install it with apt-get install
[03:44] <neonpinkcrayon> Do PPAs come by default?
[03:45] <Ben64> no, they're 3rd party repositories and not really supported in here
[03:45] <neonpinkcrayon> Hmm, ok, late nights, who knows what commands I run.
[03:46] <neonpinkcrayon> So, cinnamon doesn't work, is the conclusion?
[03:47] <holstein> neonpinkcrayon: you are stating it doesnt. we are saying, ppa's are not officially support, since we dont maintain the packages
[03:47] <Ben64> if it doesn't work, then it's the fault of whoever runs the PPA you're using
[03:47] <neonpinkcrayon> Can I figure out which PPA a package came from?
[03:47] <Ben64> you can try contacting them, or stick to officially supported software
[03:48] <holstein> !info ppa-purge
[03:48] <Bashing-om> neonpinkcrayon: Just picking up on the conversation, cinnamon is in the 13.10 and less repositories. I do not recall the reason cinnamon was pulled from 14.04 .
[03:48] <neonpinkcrayon> Man, this alt+~ not working... how does a person get between multiple of the same windows easily?
[03:48] <rww> neonpinkcrayon: what's the key above your tab key?
[03:48] <Danato> neonpinkcrayon: actually it does work, I use cinnamon on top of my ubuntu 13.10
[03:48] <neonpinkcrayon> Bashing-om: Wait, why am I on the old version of ubuntu then?
[03:48] <neonpinkcrayon> Danato: I think I:m on 13... wondering why everyone else on 14 all of a sudden.
[03:49] <Danato> neonpinkcrayon: it came out in April 17th
[03:49] <Ninjawarrior> Hey, why is there no safe solution to install PHP 5.4 on Ubuntu?
[03:49] <aquaguy> Hello
[03:49] <neonpinkcrayon> Danato: Oh, and dist-upgrade gets me there?
[03:49] <Bashing-om> neonpinkcrayon:  -> lsb_release -a <- .. maybe you did have cinnamon in the install prior to updating ?
[03:49] <neonpinkcrayon> Bashing-om: Perhaps, lemme just figure out this window changing stuff.
[03:49] <Danato> neonpinkcrayon: you need a do-release-upgrade
[03:50] <rww> Ninjawarrior: because we don't keep around old versions of PHP just because people fail at updating webapps
[03:50] <neonpinkcrayon> Danato: Does that break epic amounts of stuff? :)
[03:50] <aquaguy> I'm trying to find some text in different files using grep and regex, the regex seems to be fine but grep ouputs nothing at all. What am I doing wrong?
[03:50] <aquaguy>  grep -o "\{\@([A-Za-z0-9_]+)\.([A-Za-z0-9_]+)\}" /var/www/public/styles/clean/templates/*
[03:50] <aquaguy> I want to match {@whatever.whatever}
[03:51] <Danato> neonpinkcrayon: I'm not sure yet, I ddnt upgrade mine just yet :P
[03:51] <Ninjawarrior> rww, it costs alot of money to upgrade webapps
[03:51] <Ninjawarrior> it seems odd to force this business decision
[03:51] <Ninjawarrior> why not allow support for both PHP 5.4 and PHP 5.5
[03:52] <rww> Ninjawarrior: because every additional package in the supported repositories is a maintenance burden, and we decided we didn't want to take that on
[03:53] <Ninjawarrior> So, its best for me to install Ubuntu 11 if I want PHP 5.4 development machine?
[03:53] <rww> No, it's best for you to upgrade your webapp.
[03:53] <rww> It's not like you can continue using 5.4 forever.
[03:54] <Ninjawarrior> Why you make it sound like 1 webapp?
[03:54] <Ninjawarrior> its 10+
[03:54] <rww> PHP 5.4 is currently in 12.10 and 13.04. 13.04 is no longer supported. 12.10 goes End of Life shortly.
[03:54] <Ninjawarrior> And its a big business decision
[03:54] <rww> Ninjawarrior: You managed to write 10 webapps, none of which work across PHP versions? That's impressive.
[03:55] <Ninjawarrior> I work for agency
[03:55] <Ninjawarrior> we maintain several websites
[03:55] <rww> Okay. I think I've adequately laid out how no version of Ubuntu that is supported for more than the next month or so has PHP 5.4. Have fun with that.
[03:55] <Ninjawarrior> My undestanding is it shouldnt break as long as the new features in PHP5.5 are not utilized
[03:56] <rww> ... then go do that, then
[03:56] <Ninjawarrior> However, Im not sure if it is a good professional practice
[03:56] <rww> to keep software up to date? yes, yes it is,
[03:56] <Ninjawarrior> On Centos, its easy to choose hosting with PHP 5.4, PHP 5.5
[03:56] <neonpinkcrayon> Right, btw, rww, for future reference my dearest, the correct answer isn't alt~.
[03:56] <Ninjawarrior> etc etc
[03:56] <Ninjawarrior> Why so difficult with Ubuntu?
[03:57] <neonpinkcrayon> rww: The latest satanic answer is: Whatever bloody key is above 'tab'.
[03:57] <rww> neonpinkcrayon: yeah, I was assuming you were on a sane keyboard. I'll adjust my answer in future :)
[03:57] <rww> Ninjawarrior: because we have a different support cycle than Centos.
[03:57] <neonpinkcrayon> rww: Since on a japanese layout keyboard the key above tab is some sinister language disruption key that suddenly morphs characters into some darkly influenced sinister form that isn't decypherable by mere humans.
[03:57] <neonpinkcrayon> rww: And alt~ were not workething.
[03:58] <rww> Ninjawarrior: at least partially because Centos = RHEL = developed by a company that makes profit off of support. Ubuntu = developed by a company that doesn't make net profits at all.
[03:58] <neonpinkcrayon> rww: You're saying not making profits is a good thing?
[03:58] <rww> neonpinkcrayon: nice
[03:58] <rww> neonpinkcrayon: I'm not. I'm just telling it like it is. Canonical is a moneypit, Red Hat isn't.
[03:59] <neonpinkcrayon> "moneypit"?
[03:59] <Ninjawarrior> Would it be better to create a development machine with gnome inside Centos instead?  my requirements is only lamp stack, Phpstorm and sass compiler
[03:59] <rww> Ninjawarrior: best ask #centos if all of that would be supported by them, and if so, sure
[03:59] <neonpinkcrayon> Ninjawarrior: It would.
[03:59] <neonpinkcrayon> Ninjawarrior: Be supported.
[03:59] <Thete> I don't really find Canonical following the whole ubuntu philosophy
[04:00] <Thete> maybe they did at the beginning
[04:00] <[[thufir]]> I'm reading the man page on dar.  I want to backup /this/bkup to /home/Dekstop .  which is goes first?  I don't understand the man page for explaining which path is which.
[04:00] <neonpinkcrayon> Thete: Once you have a group of people... do they ever follow a philosophy?
[04:00] <Ninjawarrior> cool
[04:00] <neonpinkcrayon> Thete: No single organization ever can follow  philosophy, look at communism.
[04:01] <elky> aaand this is where that conversation ends. political discussions are not tech support
[04:01] <rww> sorry, I probably started that one
[04:01] <ticamai_> Did my message go through? My connection just went out
[04:01] <rww> ticamai_: nope
[04:01] <Thete> Yeah
[04:02] <neonpinkcrayon> elky: I was thinking more in terms of epistemology :P
[04:02] <kimiamania> if you are really PHP developer, you must know there is PuPHPet https://puphpet.com/
[04:02] <rww> ticamai_: (assuming you meant some message before that one)
[04:02] <ticamai_> Brand new, unmodified, fresh install of 14.04 64-bit. Trying to install wine1.6, but this happens: http://elec.li/p/w8ks0k/
[04:02] <ticamai_> that was the message
[04:02] <neonpinkcrayon> elky: Had to hold back my natural troll here for a minute :P
[04:02] <ticamai_> It's Xubuntu, but I'd think it still applies here too
[04:02] <rww> ticamai_: have you done sudo apt-get update recently? if not, try that
[04:02] <ticamai_> rww: Yes, I have, multiple times
[04:03] <ticamai_> rww: Installed last night, did a sudo apt-get update just before trying to install wine
[04:03] <neonpinkcrayon> rww: Anyway, conclusion, human beings don't govern organizations, it is more about structure and information exchange. ie: A gamble.
[04:04] <neonpinkcrayon> do-release-upgraded, here we go... Will I have a working laptop?
[04:04] <rww> Ninjawarrior: which has nothing to do with my point, which was that Canonical is not profitable :P
[04:04] <rww> and I can't use a tab key
[04:04] <rww> neonpinkcrayon: ^^^
[04:04] <rww> anyway
[04:04] <neonpinkcrayon> rww: American layout... It makes it too easy :P
[04:04] <neonpinkcrayon> rww: And, I respodned to Thete.
[04:05] <rww> aha
[04:05] <neonpinkcrayon> Now for some reason I came on here with a question...
[04:05] <neonpinkcrayon> Oh, right, how to upgrade.
[04:05] <rww> Ticamai: pastebin apt-cache show wine1.6
[04:07] <Ticamai> rww: http://pastebin.com/nE9x1kr0
[04:08] <PryMaL> neonpinkcrayon: try do-release-upgrade in terminal
[04:09] <rww> Ticamai: run dpkg --get-selections | grep hold, pastebin output if there is any
[04:09] <neonpinkcrayon> PryMaL: I'm not doing that?
[04:09] <Ticamai> rww: No output from that
[04:09] <neonpinkcrayon> I just said I was... I know, I catch myself lying so often.
[04:10] <rww> Ticamai: okays. Take your original paste, take the first package on the error list, try installing it (so sudo apt-get install wine1.6-i386), see if it gives a more useful error, if not repeat
[04:11] <rww> Ticamai: or install aptitude and try sudo aptitude install wine1.6. either way.
[04:11] <Ben64> why not "wine" instead of wine1.6
[04:11] <cHarNe2> hi guys, im trying to install a fresh ubuntu on dads older acer aspire-5000 for my brother, (14.04), but the installer stops at "configuring kernel". what to do? tried both 32 and 64-bit installers.
[04:11] <rww> Ben64: because they're the same thing
[04:11] <rww> Ben64: wine is just a metapackage depending on wine1.6
[04:11] <Ben64> i'm thinking the wine package will pull in everything it needs
[04:12] <Ticamai> rww: It has no installation candidate
[04:12] <rww> Ticamai: pastebin apt-cache policy
[04:12] <rww> Ben64: the only thing it depends on is wine1.6, so no :P
[04:13] <Ben64> Ticamai: what is the output of "uname -a" ? you can paste it in here, its just one line
[04:13] <Ademan> how can I find out what flags the packaged kernel I'm using was built with?
[04:13] <Ticamai> Ben64: Linux digiengine 3.13.0-24-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:11:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:14] <Ticamai> rww: http://pastebin.com/pWQZ70yf
[04:14] <Ben64> Ademan: cat /boot/config-`uname -r`
[04:15] <zerofiat> hey guys, trying to get a second display up and running.. I've got 2 R9 270x's in this machine with a monitor connected to the dvi-i port on each. While both adapters show up in both the atisysteminforeport and in lspci, I'm getting no love from the second card. I've tried enabling it in amdcccle and after reboot that device is re-disabled. I'm running xubuntu 14.04.
[04:15] <rww> Ticamai: weird. apt-cache policy wine1.6-i386
[04:16] <zerofiat> wondering if anyone could shed a little light on it?
[04:16] <Ticamai> rww: Using my own site, faster to put it in, hope you dont mind: http://elec.li/p/84wgw4/
[04:17] <zerofiat> also, amd's drivers direct from their site don't install on 14.04, had to use the software center to install fglrx
[04:18] <rww> Ticamai: that's perfectly fine. Apologies for all the pastebinning, we're crossing off possibilities. pastebin the entire output of sudo apt-get update?
[04:18] <tex83> Trusty Tahr
[04:21] <Ticamai> rww: http://elec.li/p/ckc08o/ also, disappearing for a second
[04:21] <basketball> when i ran sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/7342417/
[04:22] <holstein> basketball: you have quantal sources
[04:23] <basketball> i run 14.04
[04:23] <holstein> basketball: sure.. but you are using quantal sources with it.. thats not a good idea
[04:23] <basketball> what do i run
[04:24] <holstein> basketball: quantal sources in trusty.. you can read them in the list you gave
[04:24] <holstein> basketball: one of the gpg key verification errors are for one of the quantal sources
[04:24] <basketball> holstein,  what command do i run in terminal
[04:25] <holstein> basketball: you can refer to http://askubuntu.com/questions/13065/how-do-i-fix-the-gpg-error-no-pubkey among other links for those GPG errors, but you need to fix your system
[04:25] <holstein> basketball: you need to have only trusty sources for trust
[04:25] <basketball> how do i do that
[04:25] <ticamai> rww: Back
[04:26] <basketball> holstein,  how do i remove them
[04:26] <rww> ticamai: if it still doesn't work after that update, I have no idea
[04:26] <holstein> basketball: depends, friend.. i may want to just reinstall, if too many packages have been mixed in
[04:26] <holstein> basketball: its a bad idea...
[04:26] <holstein> basketball: you cant always just change the sources after you have mixed them up like that
[04:27] <basketball> i did a fresh install last week
[04:27] <Ademan> Ben64: thanks!
[04:27] <rww> impressive time-to-breakage
[04:27] <ticamai> rww: Nope, still doesn't work. Interesting.
[04:27] <holstein> basketball: ok.. since then, you have added sources for the incorrect operating system
[04:27] <basketball> ok let me ask you this
[04:28] <holstein> !ask > basketball
[04:28] <basketball> is there a way to make a new live cd that when i install ubuntu it will automatically insall certain programs
[04:29] <holstein> basketball: sure.. but, not programs from the incorrect operating system sources
[04:29] <basketball> what do you mean
[04:29] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, i went to recovery console root login, and tried to remove a package, but it says this, http://postimg.org/image/lhk3eng4x/
[04:29] <silv3r_m00n> why am i not able to remove packages from the recovery console ?
[04:29] <holstein> basketball: i mean, you cant add packages from the incorrect sources, friend.
[04:30] <basketball> so i need to reinstall no mater what
[04:32] <Ademan> so if something was in 3.7 it ought to be in 3.8 shouldn't it?
[04:32] <Ademan> kernel, that is, since version numbers by themselves are a bit ambiguous potentially
[04:32] <holstein> basketball: you need to *not* run sources for the incorrect operating system.. as i said, depending on what has been installed, i would likely prefer to reinstall to "fix" that
[04:33] <Bashing-om> silv3r_m00n: in recovery mode the file system is read only, then -> mount -o remount,rw / <- to remount for write .
[04:34] <skierpage> Hey, I'm doing an "other installation type" to install Ubuntu 14.04. I have a fat32 partition to install to, but I want to switch it to something else (ext4?), shrink it, and enlarge the swap partition after it. Can I do that from "Installation type" screen?
[04:35] <bluezone> skierpage, it should be clear when it begins to ask you about where you want to install it to
[04:35] <bluezone> you just choose other
[04:35] <bluezone> or you can use one of the predefined ones if you think it will work out for oyu
[04:36] <bluezone> the choices will be like : "Install and erase eveything, install along -side another os, __ other__
[04:36] <skierpage> bluezone, yeah, none of those. So I did choose "Other", now I'm at this "Installation type" that shows all my partitions.
[04:37] <skierpage> I know how to adjust them with gparted, maybe I should quit the installer and adjust from that.
[04:37] <bluezone> yeah you can do that from the live cd
[04:37] <bluezone> sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:38] <skierpage> bluezone FYI no need to install, it's already there.
[04:38] <bluezone> oh
[04:39] <skierpage> heh,  after changing them and clicking apply the gparted window vanished. "gpartedbin[15385]: segfault at 215d00" .
[04:39] <bluezone> O.o
[04:39] <skierpage> Maybe a bad idea to have the installer and gparted running at the same time.
[04:40] <bluezone> yes
[04:40] <bluezone> lol
[04:41] <Ademan> is it possible to build a kernel module out of a couple of files that *should* have been in the kernel but weren't included for some reason?
[04:41] <skierpage> now I can't quit the Install. Click Quit, "Do you really want to quit the installation now?" dialog, click [Quit], spinning cursor, repeat
[04:42] <bluezone> bahhhhh, do you have anything important on your  drive?
[04:42] <Ademan> looks like it is possible, brb though
[04:45] <tozen> skierpage: have you compared mdsums? looks like you image file is faulty
[04:46] <skierpage> I had an Edit partition dialog behind the Install window (so maybe Install can adjust partitions). But I Cancel'd that, and still can't quit the Install.
[04:46] <skierpage> tozen I doubt that very much, live USB booted fine, installer looks good
[04:47] <cfhowlett> skierpage so you did not check but you're assuming your source ISO is valid...
[04:47]  * cfhowlett considers the  2 minutes it takes to verify integrity to be time well spent
[04:49] <tozen> congrats gals! utopic unicorn 14.10 is landed, I'm on it already... ;P
[04:49] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|tozen
[04:51] <tozen> cfhowlett: thx for info! perhaps will be needed for future. ;)
[04:51] <cfhowlett> tozen happy to help
[04:51] <skierpage> cfhowlett, tozen Good point. So I go back to "Download Ubuntu Desktop", click Not now, take me to the download ›, and it starts downloading. No mention of mdsums. <snark> Do I only get those if I tip? :)
[04:51] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|skierpage
[04:52] <cfhowlett> !hashes| skierpage
[04:52] <skierpage> thanks!
[04:52] <skierpage> my mistake, there's a "View Ubuntu’s md5 hashes".
[04:52] <cfhowlett> skierpage to be absolutely sure, verify both the ISO you downloaded and the USB.  instructions refer to "verify CD" but the process is identical
[04:53] <cfhowlett> skierpage IMO direct downloads break far more often than torrents.
[04:56] <tex83> I'm trying to find pycharm in the repositories. How do I search for it without necessarily installing it?
[04:56] <cfhowlett> !info pycharm
[04:56] <tex83> cfhowlett yeah that's not the package name
[04:56] <tex83> and I'm downloading the tarball
[04:57] <tex83> but I'm thinking surely it exists in a repository and I'm just not yet knowing how to search repositories
[04:57] <tex83> I could do like apt-get install *pycharm*
[04:57] <tex83> but I'd rather get a list of things fitting that first
[04:58] <Bashing-om> tex83: to search the repository -> apt-cache search <package_name> ; info -> apt-cache show <package_name> .
[04:58] <tex83> nice
[04:58] <tex83> apt-cache
[04:58] <tex83> I didn't know that
[04:59] <tex83> is there an apt family of programs?
[04:59] <Bashing-om> tex83: never ending learning processes !
[04:59] <tex83> :D
[04:59] <Bashing-om> tex83: yEAH, THERE ARE MANUALS .. GIMME A BIT TO HUNT IT UP.
[05:00] <Bashing-om> oopps
[05:00] <tex83> hee
[05:01] <Bashing-om> tex83: One here, not yet the one I had in mind ->http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/ubuntu-policy/policy.html/ch-relationships.html ...
[05:02] <tex83> hey bashing-om, can you explain this?
[05:02] <tex83> john@frankenputer:~$ apt-cache search grep | charm
[05:02] <tex83> ERROR: Cannot start PyCharm
[05:02] <tex83> and thank you for the manuial
[05:03] <skierpage> md5sum matches. The odds seem far higher that running gparted and the installer at the same time is a bad idea, than my live USB is corrupted. Anyway I sudo kill -HUP'd ubiquity processes and will run gparted on its own.
[05:04] <joshlegs> how do i make a sleeping process run ?
[05:05] <dw1> joshlegs: how did it fall asleep
[05:06] <joshlegs> dw1: dont really know tbh :S
[05:06] <joshlegs> htop shows it in state "s"
[05:06] <Bashing-om> tex83: Other manuals -> https://wiki.debian.org/Apt , http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_more_readings_for_the_package_management. Will look at 'charm'.
[05:07] <dw1> joshlegs: ive got a lot of those.......
[05:08] <Ninjawarrior> Hi guys. Whats the name of the default desktop manager in Ubuntu 14?
[05:08] <dw1> joshlegs: the man page just says it means idle
[05:08] <danielsu> close
[05:08] <joshlegs> dw1: yeah that's what i thought :'(
[05:09] <dw1> joshlegs: just means its not doin anything at the moment
[05:10] <Bashing-om> tex83: 'apt-cache search grep | charm'researchg yields -> Tools for maintaining Juju charms ; is that what you had in mind ?
[05:11] <dw1> joshlegs: it'll wake up when it has something to do :)
[05:12] <dw1> joshlegs: bright and early for its 9 to 5 job
[05:12] <joshlegs> heh
[05:16] <makerberg> #ubuntu-server-gui
[05:23] <skierpage> Ninjawarrior: you mean Unity 7?
[05:23] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, i went to recovery console root login, and tried to remove a package, but it says this, http://postimg.org/image/lhk3eng4x/
[05:23] <silv3r_m00n> why am i not able to remove packages from recovery console ?
[05:23] <Ninjawarrior> seems like enlightenment
[05:23] <skierpage> Ninjawarrior: well, it's the compiz window manager and the Unity dock, heads-up display, etc.
[05:24] <tex83> Hey y'all I'm putting pycharm on the new Trusty Tahr. Getting this message:
[05:24] <tex83> ERROR: Cannot start PyCharm\nNo JDK found. Please validate either PYCHARM_JDK, JDK_HOME or JAVA_HOME environment variable points to valid JDK installation.
[05:24] <tex83> Is this just that I haven't put JDK on the new install?
[05:25] <dw1> it would appear that way
[05:25] <Ninjawarrior> skierpage, Im attempting to make it look similar on CentOS
[05:26] <m3b> eh guy's trying to install ubuntu on a Acer Aspire M5100
[05:26] <m3b> dvd .iso is burnt using IMG BURN
[05:26] <skierpage> Ninjawarrior: that's kinda LOL, but it looks like people have tried it http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/unity-desktop-available-for-fedora
[05:26] <m3b> computer is set to boot from cdrom
[05:27] <m3b> but it just sits at the press any key to boot
[05:27] <m3b> it'll boot hirens
[05:27] <skierpage> (CentOS is similar to Red Hat Enterprise Linux which is roughly the trailing edge of Fedora)
[05:28] <Ninjawarrior> I like the Ubuntu doc and the login page
[05:28] <Ninjawarrior> Its clean like mac
[05:29] <dw1> m3b: whats hirens, another cd?
[05:36] <riana> bonjour
[05:36] <Guest97732> guys anyone knows the name of MX-14 chattroom ?
[05:37] <Guest97732> i have a question
[05:37] <Guest97732> i don't know how to install my printer
[05:38] <dw1> Guest97732: go into System Settings and click Printers
[05:38] <Guest97732> ok
[05:38] <Guest97732> thanks i'm going to give it a try
[05:39] <dw1> Guest97732: then Add and hopefully it just finds it :)
[05:39] <dw1> Guest97732: Make sure it's on
[05:39] <dw1> Guest97732: plugged in, etc
[05:40] <Guest97732> yes sir i did
[05:41] <dw1> It worked/found it ?
[05:41] <Guest97732> well i clicked on add printer and clicked on USB and nothing happened
[05:42] <Guest97732> this is not ubuntu though it is Mx-14 linux
[05:42] <dw1> wrong channel then :)
[05:42] <Guest97732> yes i know
[05:42] <Guest97732> sorry about that sir
[05:43] <dw1> try #linux
[05:43] <Guest97732> ok
[05:43] <dw1> ##linux
[05:44] <dw1> we are just a one pony show here :P
[05:44] <Guest97732> i guess everybody is sleeping or at work
[05:44] <Guest97732> i will try to see google do some search and see if i can figure it out
[05:44] <dw1>  /join ##linux
[05:45] <dw1> should be lots of people
[05:45] <Guest97732> ok i did sir thanks i will ask them
[05:45] <dw1> ok good luck
[05:49] <m3b> ne one know of a boot disk of some sorts i could make to get the Ubuntu DVD disc to be ackwloedged
[05:49] <dw1> do other disks boot properly
[05:49] <dw1> should just work
[05:49] <m3b> yes it reads hires just fine
[05:50] <Guest97732> guys how to update drivers in terminal ?
[05:50] <skierpage> I'm installing Ubuntu 14.04 on Mac OS X dual-boot with rEFInd. I chose "Something else", it presents me a list of partitions. How do I indicate which one I want to use for root file system?
[05:51] <dw1> Guest97732: switch to Ubuntu then ask here, til then ##linux
[05:51] <dw1> m3b: should just work... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[05:51] <dw1> m3b: as long as you burned the .iso as an image not just copied it as a data file
[05:51] <Guest97732> dw1 this has the same thing like ubuntu it uses sudo apt-get
[05:52] <Guest97732> so i may try if you please do you know how to update the drivers through that
[05:53] <skierpage> Guest97732:  sudo apt-get install <name_of_driver>  will do an update
[05:53] <Guest97732> anyway thanks for your help have a great day
[05:53] <skierpage> Guest97732: you might have to run sudo apt-get upgrade to get latest packages
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a package to show all startup items, to enable/disable manually
[05:56] <skierpage> hmm, I click the partition I want to use (formatted ext4, plenty big), click [Install now], and it alerts "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu." I don't see a partitioning menu in the "Something else" partition window
[05:56] <clue_h> lotuspsychje, sudo sed -i "s/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g" /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> clue_h: tnx lemme try
[05:57] <clue_h> lotuspsychje, then you can view them by running start up applications program
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> clue_h: tnx mate, it worked! isnt there a GUI package that can manage the same or a dconf trick?
[05:59] <clue_h> lotuspsychje, a gui for that may be too much but there might be in dconf a setting for that- but i dont have it installed.
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> clue_h: ok tnx, ill work with your tweak for now ; )
[06:00] <MrCurious> i want to expose port 8080 on a vm as port 8888 on the host of the vm.  iptables?  cant figure it out. can anyone spare a clue?
[06:00] <clue_h> lotuspsychje, its not mine its something i google every time on  a new install lol
[06:00] <clue_h> i should write it down
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> clue_h: what did you disable as services yourself?
[06:01] <jjjjjjjj> sup !!!
[06:02] <clue_h> lotuspsychje, it depends, some i disable at boot, using update-rcd thing disable, remove the thing, or do what you did
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> clue_h: ok
[06:02] <skierpage> MrCurious: what VM system are you using?  It's called port forwarding, you can do it in the VirtualBox  GUI
[06:02] <clue_h> sometimes its just a conf file and you say false :]
[06:03] <MrCurious> openstack
[06:03] <jjjjjjjj> dudes..... i need some help on partitions and all !
[06:03] <skierpage> MrCurious: I'm not sure about that, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=OpenStack+port+forwarding :)
[06:04] <dw1> !ask | jjjjjjjj
[06:05] <MrCurious> skierpage: only asked here because i had exhausted my google mojo, and that was the first search i tried.
[06:06] <jjjjjjjj> k.... i have dual booted my system with win8 ,and i want to distribute my ubuntu partition to windows , how can i do so !?!
[06:07] <dw1> not sure thats possible
[06:07] <clue_h> view it in windows?
[06:07] <dw1> perhaps i dont use windows enough :P
[06:07] <clue_h> same here
[06:07] <jjjjjjjj> but is there any way of doing so ?
[06:08] <dw1> you can view windows partitions in ubuntu tho i know that
[06:08] <skierpage> MrCurious: sorry I can't help.
[06:08] <clue_h> but last time i checked i could view stuff in the linux partition
[06:08] <juiced> Windows can't read ext2/3/4
[06:08] <juiced> file systems that is
[06:08] <skierpage> jjjjjjjj: Ubuntu can mount your windows partition and you can share stuff in that.
[06:09] <jjjjjjjj> really how ?
[06:09] <dw1> ahh there is an app for that
[06:09] <clue_h> jjjjjjjj, and if you want to share between them both, maybe a partition for that, to place files in, a 3rd partition
[06:09] <dw1> jjjjjjjj: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/access-ubuntu-from-windows-7
[06:09] <clue_h> that both know how to read
[06:10] <dw1> my windows are automatically mounted in ubuntu just have to click the drive in Nautilus
[06:10] <afflicto> Hey all, I just upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 and upon the reboot, It booted to a black screen. I'm able to ctrl+alt+f2 into a terminal and it says I'm on 14.04. How should I go about troubleshooting this?
[06:11] <dw1> otherwise try the Disk Utility to mount..
[06:11] <jjjjjjjj> lemi check that link !
[06:11] <skierpage> jjjjjjjj: I have Kubuntu set up that way. It mounts /dev/sda1 on /mnt/WindowsVistadrive , and I set up symlinks in my home directory to /mnt/WindowsVistadrive/Users/Default/Music, etc.
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> afflicto: try enter grub and recoverymode
[06:11] <afflicto> lotuspsychje: ok
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> afflicto: then choose failsafeX from the recoverymode
[06:12] <afflicto> lotuspsychje: k
[06:13] <dw1> afflicto: if you have nvidia graphics try sudo apt-get install nvidia current and reboot
[06:13] <dw1> afflicto: nvidia-current
[06:13] <skierpage> jjjjjjjj: that link is if you have stuff in a Linux partition that you want to access from Windows. It is a LOT easier to put stuff on the Windows partition, and then you can access it from Linux. I keep my Firefox profile, and mail files on the NTFS partition, works great.
[06:14] <afflicto> dw1: ok well I have AMD :P
[06:14] <dw1> afflicto: dont know bout that
[06:14] <dw1> afflicto: either theres a package or can download proprietary..
[06:14] <afflicto> lotuspsychje: I selected failsafeX, and choosed "Yes" about mounting filesystem. Now it's just a blinking underscore at the bottom.
[06:15] <dw1> afflicto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> afflicto: that doesnt sound very good then
[06:15] <dw1> afflicto: is ubuntu-desktop installed
[06:15] <afflicto> lotuspsychje: I suppose not :(
[06:16] <afflicto> dw1: Don't know, what is that?
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> afflicto: maybe a trusty clean install might run smoother :p
[06:16] <jjjjjjjj> actually i want to give 200 gb of my linux partition to windows .... so is there any app to distribute partition among other os
[06:16] <dw1> afflicto: you need it for GUi
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | jjjjjjjj
[06:16] <skierpage> I finally figured out the install other screen: double-click the partition or select and click [Change...], then choose Use as (current format or change to ext4), and *then* you can choose to mount it as /.
[06:16] <dw1> afflicto: should be installed
[06:16] <jjjjjjjj> #other partition means windows !
[06:16] <dw1> afflicto: if you have a network connection do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop just to be sure
[06:17] <afflicto> dw1: ok
[06:18] <afflicto> dw1: already the newest version
[06:18] <dw1> afflicto: failsafeX ..... ?
[06:18] <dw1> afflicto: maybe the driver then
[06:18] <afflicto> dw1: failsafeX didn't work
[06:18] <skierpage> jjjjjjjj: yes, gparted to shrink your linux partition, then create new partition in the leftover, format as ntfs.  If you want to enlarge your Windows partition, I'm not sure gparted will move one of them "out of the way", you may have to back the Linux partition up.
[06:18] <dw1> afflicto: saw you mention that.. dont know what that means
[06:18] <juiced> maybe try cat /var/log/boot.log and /var/log/Xorg.log. Because you could get to the console when it booted up.
[06:19] <jjjjjjjj> k lotuspsychje , ubottu ... let me check about gparted
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> afflicto: maybe fix broken packages on recoverymode might help
[06:19] <dw1> afflicto: you can check the bottom of /var/log/Xorg.0.log which might say something, or run startx to see if theres an error
[06:20] <afflicto> dw1: k
[06:20] <dw1> afflicto: driver information is in links above.......
[06:22] <afflicto> dw1: I tried fixing broken packages in recovery mode. Same thing, purple UI. blinking Underscore at the bottom.
[06:22] <afflicto> dw1: seems it might have trouble mounting the filesystem :S
[06:22] <del_> !
[06:23] <dw1> afflicto: i thought ctrl-alt-f1 or f2 got you to terminal, where its mounted ?
[06:24] <afflicto> dw1: it does. I thought you said I should fix broken packages through recovery mode :P
[06:24] <dw1> afflicto: not me :)
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> afflicto: i would go install 14.04 clean
[06:24] <afflicto> lotuspsychje: hm I really don't want to. I kinda don't have backup of some files.
[06:25] <dw1> its prob just video driver
[06:25] <dw1> what does Xorg.0.log say
[06:26] <afflicto> dw1: yeah it seems so
[06:26] <afflicto> dw1: let me see.
[06:26] <barbossa-> :)
[06:26] <skierpage> BTW there's definitely a bug in the ubiquity "Something else" > Installation type screen: while the Edit partition dialog is shown, the main window remains active. It should be a modal dialog
[06:26] <inflex> Is there a way to reset/purge old network connection instances on a Ubuntu install, as I now get things like /dev/eth103  rather than /dev/eth0 on connection ( it's a USB stick bootable Ubuntu system )
[06:27] <clue_h> inflex, can you get to edit connections and remove the old saved ones
[06:28] <inflex> clue_h: was going to try go for the source on boot, since I basically want it to forget all old/previous connections each time ( it's a test/debugging setup for systems )
[06:28] <clue_h> afflicto, also,   dmesg | grep error
[06:29] <afflicto> dw1: Found something... atiddxDriScreenInit failed. Probably kernel module missing or incompatible. DRI Initialization failed. kernel module (fglrx.ko) may be emissing or incompatible....
[06:29] <dw1> afflicto: was your former driver installed from commandline ?
[06:29] <dw1> afflicto: if so, usually you have to run that again after kernel update
[06:31] <afflicto> dw1: uhm. last time I installed graphics drivers, I used to Software Updates app. I choose the proprietary-updated drivers.
[06:31] <inflex> clue_h: might purge /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections and then restart networking
[06:31] <clue_h> inflex, maybe a script that removes files in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[06:31] <dw1> it seems to be interface, not network manager related......
[06:31] <clue_h> inflex, on boot
[06:32] <inflex> clue_h: ja
[06:32] <dw1> afflicto: hmm.. need package name.. or else can go to the web site and download
[06:32] <dw1> afflicto: oh package names @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[06:33] <dw1> afflicto: sudo apt-get install fglrx-installer
[06:33] <dw1> afflicto: maybe
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> upgrades are always tricky
[06:34] <afflicto> dw1: what about the fglrx-installer-updates ?
[06:35] <dw1> afflicto: id prob try the first one first
[06:35] <afflicto> dw1: ok
[06:35] <clue_h> inflex, i think an easier way, would be to go to start up applications and add your bash script there
[06:37] <afflicto> dw1: unable to locate package fglrx-installer :\
[06:37] <afflicto> dw1: maybe I need to apt-get update..
[06:37] <dw1> afflicto: maybe or can download the ubuntu package manually, no worries
[06:38] <dw1> afflicto: 64 bit ?
[06:38] <dw1> afflicto: wget "https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/2:13.350.1-0ubuntu2/+build/5886324/+files/fglrx-amdcccle_13.350.1-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb"
[06:39] <dw1> afflicto: wait no
[06:39] <dw1> afflicto: wget "https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/2:13.350.1-0ubuntu2/+build/5886324/+files/fglrx_13.350.1-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb"
[06:39] <dw1> afflicto: dont know what the cccle is all about :p
[06:39] <dw1> afflicto: its much smaller
[06:39] <junka> keyboard shortcuts does not appear with a screen resolution of 1024x600
[06:40] <dw1> afflicto: then just dpkg -i the .deb file
[06:41] <linuxuser1000> hello guys
[06:42] <linuxuser1000> I have a question,should i install the nvidia 334 drivers or stay on 331?
[06:42] <afflicto> dw1: ok, downloaded. Now just dpkg -i file.deb?
[06:42] <dw1> afflicto: yup
[06:42] <dw1> linuxuser1000: prob not much difference
[06:42] <dw1> linuxuser1000: unless youre one of those guys who wants +2 fps :P
[06:43] <linuxuser1000> i tried 334 yesterday and it made my unity not start
[06:43] <afflicto> dw1: conflicts with something already installed. I should uninstall what I have first, right?
[06:43] <linuxuser1000> and not even gnome-shell would start
[06:43] <dw1> afflicto: what does it conflict with........
[06:44] <afflicto> dw1: dpkg: regarding fglrx_13.350.1-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb containing fglrx: fglrx conflicts with fglrx-driver. fglrx-updates provides fglrx-driver and is present and installed.
[06:44] <linuxuser1000> remove fglrx-updates
[06:44] <afflicto> dw1: I should remove fglrx-updates then?
[06:44] <afflicto> yeah
[06:45] <dw1> afflicto: can replace id think
[06:45] <linuxuser1000> sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx-updates
[06:45] <linuxuser1000> than try installing it
[06:45] <afflicto> whop.. Just did "remove fglrx-updates".
[06:45] <dw1> afflicto: or get the new -updates... but you may already have it and it doesnt work :/
[06:46] <linuxuser1000> my nvidia was a pain in the butt enough
[06:46] <linuxuser1000> lol
[06:46] <dw1> afflicto: dpkg-reconfigure on the existing package might have done something too
[06:46] <dw1> afflicto: but too late :P
[06:46] <afflicto> dw1: hehe. I'm installing the new .deb now
[06:47] <linuxuser1000> damn these proprietary drivers are annoying
[06:47] <skierpage> I love being on Intel built-in graphics: worse performance but no graphics driver issues :)
[06:47] <afflicto> done. shall I reboot?
[06:47] <dw1> afflicto: you're the man. make the call :p
[06:47]  * afflicto crosses his fingers
[06:47] <linuxuser1000> i hope ati isn't as bad as nvidia
[06:48] <clue_h> linuxuser1000, that is problematic sometimes too
[06:48] <dw1> i just use nvidia-current and have no probs.....
[06:48] <linuxuser1000> what version is that?
[06:48] <joy_lobo>  
[06:48] <linuxuser1000> is it 304 or something
[06:48] <dw1> whatever's current.  :)
[06:48] <skierpage> The 14.04 installer is great but a 2-row teeny terminal window for details and no resize is weak.
[06:48] <dw1> its on another comp cant look
[06:49] <linuxuser1000> oh yeah it is 304
[06:49] <dw1> linuxuser1000: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/nvidia-current yeah
[06:49] <linuxuser1000> i'm running nvidia-331 from the additional drivers
[06:50] <dw1> livin' on the edge
[06:50] <afflicto> dw1: nope. black still :\
[06:50] <dw1> afflicto: Xorg.0.log .....
[06:50] <clue_h> afflicto, dmesg | grep error      what does it say
[06:50] <linuxuser1000> i'm 3 driver versions behind
[06:51] <joy_lobo> having trouble while connecting internet via iball dongle
[06:52] <ice9> are there any differences between ubuntu desktop and server other than there is no GUI?
[06:52] <dw1> afflicto: a forum post suggests apt-get remove --purge fglrx may fix it
[06:53] <afflicto> Nothing particularly strange in Xorg.0.log to my knoweldge :P
[06:54] <afflicto> clue_h: ot says EXT4-fs sda1_ re,-,pimted. Påts_ errprs=remount-ro.
[06:54] <dw1> afflicto: perhaps just remove --purge the drivers and reboot without them
[06:54] <afflicto> clue_h: oh lord all my fingers were on the wrong place XD
[06:55] <dw1> afflicto: dpkg -l | grep fglrx ... purge em all
[06:55] <afflicto> clue_h: something about my harddrive, unrelated I guess.
[06:55] <afflicto> dw1: k
[06:55] <clue_h> afflicto, lets assume its unrelated, which it probably is :]
[06:55] <afflicto> clue_h: :P
[06:57] <afflicto> dw1: ok done. It was just 1 package. fglrx.
[06:57] <afflicto> dw1: what now, install the dpkg I downloaded again?
[06:57] <dw1> afflicto: try reboot with no driver
[06:57] <afflicto> dw1: oh, ok.
[06:57] <joy_lobo> k fellows .... want your help in connecting net via modem , my system is not detecting it
[06:58] <linuxuser1000> gotta purge em all.
[06:58] <linuxuser1000> lol
[06:58] <dw1> ubuntumon
[06:58] <afflicto> hah
[06:59] <dw1> joy_lobo: woah, old school.....
[06:59] <dw1> joy_lobo: what modem
[06:59] <joy_lobo> ..
[06:59] <joy_lobo> iball dongle it is
[06:59] <dw1> oh a broadband modem :)
[07:00] <linuxuser1000> oh it's one of those 3g sticks
[07:00] <dw1> no router?
[07:00] <joy_lobo> yup !
[07:00] <afflicto> dw1: that works. it booted into a unity session.
[07:00] <dw1> afflicto: nice.  perhaps not the fastest driver tho.  guess you might want to test others
[07:01] <dw1> joy_lobo: all i got is http://google.com/search?q=iball+modem+ubuntu
[07:01] <afflicto> dw1: yeah
[07:01] <linuxuser1000> do you have the option
[07:01] <dw1> afflicto: cool mystery solved at least
[07:01] <joy_lobo> ya  linuxuser1000 that one
[07:01] <linuxuser1000> to connect in the network indicator menu
[07:01] <linuxuser1000> click on the network menu
[07:02] <linuxuser1000> you should have something about broadband
[07:02] <linuxuser1000> new mobile broadband connection
[07:02] <afflicto> thanks guys! at least the open source driver works!
[07:03] <dw1> no prob
[07:03] <dw1> next guy gets super fast solution :)
[07:03] <linuxuser1000> hey afflicto did you try the additional drivers?
[07:03] <helmut_> hi
[07:04] <joy_lobo> k linuxuser1000 let me try it !
[07:04] <dw1> imagine all 1650 users said hi back
[07:04] <joy_lobo> lol dw1 .... dat would look great
[07:04] <sidao> hello?
[07:04] <linuxuser1000> afflicto try the additional drivers'
[07:04] <linuxuser1000> that solved mine
[07:06] <clue_h> additional drivers might put him back to square one lol
[07:06] <linuxuser1000> how?
[07:06] <clue_h> open source drivers tend to just work
[07:06] <linuxuser1000> i had to install mine cause steam
[07:06] <afflicto> whooh! I installed the proprietary drivers. it works now xD
[07:06] <afflicto> same driver, fglrx-updates
[07:07] <linuxuser1000> from additional or manually?
[07:07] <afflicto> linuxuser1000: additional drivers GUI yeah
[07:07] <afflicto> I cannot select gnome shell tho :S
[07:08] <afflicto> the button to select desktop environment is gone.
[07:08] <linuxuser1000> have you got gnome-session installed
[07:08] <dw1> install gnome-session-flashback ?
[07:08] <clue_h> fallback?
[07:08] <linuxuser1000> install gnome-session and flashback
[07:08] <dw1> fallback and flashback... theres 2 now and theyre the same
[07:08] <clue_h> wow never knew
[07:08] <linuxuser1000> install both
[07:08] <linuxuser1000> gnome-session
[07:09] <linuxuser1000> and flashback
[07:09] <skierpage> rEFInd is awesome. Kept track of my old Linux after rearranging partitions, detected the live USB and offered 3 boot options, offers the newly installed Linux.
[07:09] <joy_lobo> linuxuser1000: but that is just for creating a network connection but here my device is not detecting
[07:09] <skierpage> 6 second boot time.
[07:10] <afflicto> gnome-session is already the newest version
[07:10] <linuxuser1000> mine does appear though
[07:10] <skierpage> \o/ 2012 MacBook Air, 128GB SSD
[07:11] <linuxuser1000> in the terminal i mean
[07:12] <joy_lobo> linuxuser1000: i tried to set up new device .... and set the category as modem but it is not detecting any modem there
[07:13] <afflicto> ok Now I can log in to gnome flashback (compiz) and (metacity)... is this the old gnome 2? or gnome shell 3?
[07:14] <linuxuser1000> it's gnome 3 that looks like gnome 2
[07:14] <linuxuser1000> and you can run compiz on it
[07:15] <afflicto> aha.. cool I can haz wobbly windows then. XD
[07:15] <clue_h> wobbly windows for fun lol
[07:15] <linuxuser1000> and don't forget the cube
[07:16] <afflicto> the cube, yes ofc
[07:16] <linuxuser1000> i'm gonna try updating to 334 lol
[07:16] <linuxuser1000> my nvidia
[07:16] <afflicto> I saw a youtube video where a guy had some many compiz effects it was just ridicolius. Looked like a christmas tree XD
[07:16] <linuxuser1000> i hope it doesn't blackscreen again
[07:17] <xWolfz> hey guys
[07:17] <clue_h> afflicto, and i bet his graphics card hates him :]
[07:17] <xWolfz> nvm, it's a ##hardware question
[07:17] <Blaster> Firefox browser scrolls while lagging in Ubuntu.  Any ideas how to fix?
[07:17] <afflicto> clue_h: hehe
[07:17] <Blaster> lags while scrolling I mean
[07:17] <Blaster> :)
[07:17] <barret_> 国人应该也不少吧
[07:18] <afflicto> Ok, turns out I just had to install gnome-shell anew. yay
[07:18] <barret_> spend one night reinstall ubuntu
[07:19] <dioioib> !cn
[07:20] <queazy> Hi.  How do I install WINE version 1.7.17 on my Xubuntu 14.04 OS?  I am a beginner and already have WINE version 1.6.2, but do not know how to get the most updated build.  Thank you.
[07:20] <dw1> is it chinese... hard to say :)
[07:20] <_1_Bronko> hola
[07:20] <dw1> yeah it is
[07:21] <barret_> Of course
[07:21] <barret_> Chinese is a beautiful language
[07:21] <_1_Bronko> hola
[07:22] <dw1> queazy: with wine the latest isnt always the best.. often different versions work best with different apps.. its a pain
[07:23] <dw1> queazy: playonlinux allows you to run multiple wine versions pretty easily
[07:23] <bazhang> #winehq repos queazy
[07:24] <queazy> dw1:  The reason I ask is because I want to play the new WildStar mmorpg (worked hard at getting a beta key), Play-On-Linux doesn't work, but then I saw this at "http://preview.tinyurl.com/kr62hvr" and it seems they were able to get it to run using WINE version 1.7.17...   I have WINE version 1.6.2 installed, how can I install version 1.7.17?
[07:24] <bazhang> queazy, I just told you
[07:25] <dw1> queazy: http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
[07:25] <dw1> yes he did
[07:25] <_1_Bronko> ola
[07:25] <bazhang> _1_Bronko, english here
[07:25] <queazy> bazhang:  Hi.  Please forgive me, I'm a beginner at this.  I didn not understand what you meant when you typed "#winehq repos"
[07:26] <queazy> dw1:  Thank you, I will try that right now!
[07:26] <bazhang> queazy, join the channel #winehq
[07:26] <queazy> ah!  ok!
[07:26] <queazy> What does the "repos" mean?
[07:26] <clue_h> repositories
[07:26] <bazhang> software repositories
[07:27] <dw1> so apt can find packages
[07:27] <dw1> special ones
[07:27] <dw1> but not supported and sometimes risky :)
[07:27] <macco> ciao
[07:27] <queazy> So they are like bots you can download the software from?  Thank you.
[07:28] <dw1> package servers.....
[07:28] <dw1> yeah
[07:28] <bazhang> queazy, central software warehouse
[07:29] <bazhang> !repos | queazy
[07:29] <queazy> Thank you.  I'm inexperienced when it comes to Xubuntu so I greatly appreciate the help.
[07:32] <dw1> thats how I learned computers in the first place... getting games to work :D
[07:33] <zZeus> Dear reddit, I want to change my lightdm greeter
[07:33] <zZeus> Can't find the appropriate config file
[07:33] <greeter> ok i officially need a new nickname at this point...
[07:34] <zZeus> greeter, can you change yourself to patheon-greeter
[07:34] <zZeus> *pantheon
[07:34] <zZeus> So how do I do this
[07:35] <zZeus> Do I have to create an actual lightdm.conf somewhere
[07:35] <zZeus> I tried updatedb and locating "lightdm.conf"
[07:35] <greeter> wish i could help you there...
[07:36] <dw1> zZeus: peeps gotta google http://askubuntu.com/questions/75755/how-to-change-the-lightdm-theme-greeter
[07:36] <zZeus> Let's see if this helps me
[07:36] <clue_h> zZeus, have you looked in  /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/
[07:36] <linuxuser1000> back
[07:37] <zZeus> dw1, there isn't a file named lightdm.conf in that location that contains the "greeter" field
[07:37] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[07:37] <linuxuser1000> i wonder why i had to install the nvidia 331 drivers first
[07:37] <linuxuser1000> and than install 334
[07:37] <zZeus> clue_h, yes, nothing in there that contains "greeter"
[07:38] <clue_h> not even 50-unity-greeter.conf?
[07:38] <linuxuser1000> how do i check if i successfuly upgraded the driver?
[07:38] <zZeus> I have those files, but which one is the main one that I edit
[07:38] <zZeus> Such that I can pick an actual greeter
[07:39] <OerHeks> linuxuser1000, how did you install the nvidia 334 driver?
[07:39] <dw1> i would think they are all the greeter
[07:40] <linuxuser1000> through the .run file
[07:40] <zZeus> Lots of stuff defining [SeatDefault]
[07:40] <linuxuser1000> but i had to install 331 first otherwise it would crash my system
[07:40] <linuxuser1000> and now my nvidia settings says i'm running 334
[07:40] <greeter> hmm?
[07:41] <linuxuser1000> is there a terminal command to check the version of the driver installed?
[07:41] <greeter> at this point i should probably ask for an off topic channel
[07:41] <OerHeks> linuxuser1000, that one is unsupported. use ' nvidia-smi ' to see the current driver
[07:42] <OerHeks> linuxuser1000, that would give you the same number
[07:42] <linuxuser1000> NVIDIA-SMI 334.21     Driver Version: 334.21
[07:43] <masoudborbor> hi. anybody knows how could I uninstall this conky http://www.noobslab.com/2013/01/install-basic-conky-in-ubuntulinux.html
[07:44] <dw1> masoudborbor: sudo apt-get remove --purge conky conky-all
[07:44] <dw1> masoudborbor: you installed with apt-get install so now remove, and the --purge option removes config files and stuff
[07:45] <masoudborbor> dwl thank you very much
[07:45] <dw1> masoudborbor: no prob
[07:45] <masoudborbor> dw1, thank you very much
[07:45] <skierpage> Thanks folks for your help. Ubuntu 14.04 seems to work fine.
[07:46] <geekstay> Hi everyone. I recently upgraded to 14.04. I also installed nvidia-prime and drivers and removed bumblebee to use my graphic card. Everything was OK, but when I try to switch on my intel card (with the indicator prime), I can't reswitch to my nvidia. And nvidia-detector outputs "None".
[07:47] <geekstay> And reboot does nothing. It starts automatically on my intel graphic card.
[07:52] <linsead> wilm
[07:53] <barbossa-> is the message indicator indicator-messages... supposed to... blink?!
[07:53] <alfatau> hello all! i need help with 3D acceleration. I've a nvidia 330M gpu and xubuntu 13.10 host system. i think i've some wrong configuration for driver/xorg because i've some virtualbox xubuntu guests having 3D not working. can you help me to review my configuration and discover what's wrong? thank you in advance.
[07:54] <geekstay> barbossa ?
[07:54] <husnainlatif> Hi, my notify-osd is not working, since I'm not seeing notifications pop up for anything whatsoever
[07:55] <barbossa-> @geekstay the envelope withing gnome that houses all messaginf
[07:55] <barbossa-> *messaging
[07:56] <geekstay> I'm using XFCE.
[07:56] <francesco_> hi :)
[07:56] <husnainlatif> francesco_, .
[07:56] <barbossa-> hehehe
[07:56] <barbossa-> im not sure if its broken... or
[07:56] <barbossa-> just a boring envelope
[07:57] <husnainlatif> This IS the official ubuntu support channel, right?
[07:59] <geekstay> It's very strange because when I click to switch card, xorg restart but does nothing.
[08:04] <stemid> I have some issues with key repeat speed in 14.04 but it's not solved by the Keyboard settings panel because it only seems to affect ' like when I''m' typing a sentence (that just happened naturally)
[08:04] <husnainlatif> that's weird stemid
[08:04] <stemid> that''s weird ;)
[08:04] <stemid> I have to be really light on '
[08:04] <husnainlatif> mine misses keypresses
[08:04] <husnainlatif> lol
[08:05] <husnainlatif> but it happens in windoze too
[08:05] <stemid> I haven't''' tried windows on this pc yet
[08:05] <husnainlatif> swedit
[08:05] <stemid> oh right I can try the keyboard in my macintosh though, just to rule out the keyboard
[08:05] <husnainlatif> exactly
[08:06] <husnainlatif> ubuntu support is tewwible :(
[08:07] <stemid> no it's definitely an ubuntu problem it's it's it's' it''s huh
[08:07] <stemid> and it doesn'''t happen when I just type ' outside of a sentence. only when other keys are pressed before
[08:10] <tracyone> how can i download dropbox through wget?
[08:10] <tracyone> https://www.dropbox.com/download?dl=packages/ubuntu/dropbox_1.6.0_i386.deb
[08:11] <stemid> wget 'url'
[08:11] <tracyone> wget "https://www.dropbox.com/download?dl=packages/ubuntu/dropbox_*_i386.deb"
[08:11] <stemid> quote it because it contains a ?
[08:11] <gry> tracyone,  https://linux.dropbox.com/packages/ubuntu/dropbox_1.6.0_i386.deb
[08:11] <OerHeks> tracyone, don't, as 1,62 is in our repo's
[08:11] <OerHeks> :-D
[08:11] <tracyone> wildcards
[08:12] <OerHeks> tracyone, and you won't get updates.
[08:12] <ticamai> interesting, I've been having issues installing things with apt-get beyond just my wine1.6 issues from earlier
[08:13] <ticamai> and i installed aptitude
[08:13] <ticamai> and it works perfectly fine
[08:13] <ticamai> apt-get throws a bunch of errors about packages that aren't going to be installed
[08:13] <husnainlatif> lubuntu ruined my ubuntu install
[08:13] <tracyone> i want to use wildcards or regex in wget
[08:15] <tracyone> wget "https://www.dropbox.com/download?dl=packages/ubuntu/dropbox_*_i386.deb"  is  not work
[08:15] <stemid> I don'''''t think you can do that
[08:15] <stemid> you can mirror a whole dir though, if dirlisting is allowed on the server
[08:15] <stemid> with -m
[08:16] <howto> hello, I was trying to install NVIDIA drivers, it's .run file kept on giving errors, about the x server first, then about something called nouveau kernel driver, so finally when I was searching for a fix to the new error, I found a ppa called x-swat, downloaded their driver, rebooted, and now after the lock screen I see nothing but the background image and a
[08:16] <howto> crash error saying system program problem detected. I can still use command line, what should I do?
[08:16] <OerHeks> howto, do not use the .run driver, use the driver tool in ubuntu itself
[08:17] <OerHeks> howto, that driver is unsupported.
[08:17] <howto> I uninstalled it
[08:17] <howto> No change
[08:18] <howto> Rebooted couple of times, nothing changes, now looking at the crash files, not understanding much
[08:19] <OerHeks> howto, reverse that ppa with ppa-purge
[08:19] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[08:20] <howto> doing so
[08:22] <Node_865> hi
[08:22] <junka> !bitcoin
[08:23] <Node_865> im having graphical issues with a new installation of ubuntu, any solution_
[08:23] <Node_865> ?
[08:23] <clue_h> what are the issues
[08:23] <howto> wat
[08:23] <howto> it won't boot now
[08:23] <Node_865> new stuff in firefox flickers, like text, and whenever i go into settings of any kind screen goes black for a few seconds
[08:24] <Node_865> after a blackscreen my monitor changes name, to CRT-0
[08:24] <howto> stuck at random: nonblocking pool is initialized
[08:24] <loaden> hello, I can't delete file into trash, any comments?
[08:24] <Guest_1004>  "yeh i know sorry and it aint play ground when they are saying i threatened to stab someone haha and that i take drugs when i never will ever never even drank before and everyone i know has in my school. can you please help me though i really want to jailbreak my ipad as i am on it more than my phone"
[08:24] <Node_865> and if i repeat, so i get the black screen again, it changes back and vice-versa
[08:24] <loaden> I have to choice to delete completly
[08:25] <howto> any idea?
[08:26] <dw1> loaden: is it a windows file system
[08:26] <howto> oh lawls, apparently it was asking for the passcode
[08:26] <rudi-c> can someone please tell me if myunity is still available on desktop 14.04? i tried google and other places, but it seems like it's only available for earlier versions.
[08:27] <clue_h> Node_865, are you using a proprietary graphics driver?
[08:27] <loaden> dw1: no, it's ext4
[08:27] <bazhang> !info myunity | rudi-c
[08:27] <dw1> loaden: Does the folder .Trash-1000 exist in the root of the filesystem ?  (Ctrl-H to view hidden in Nautilus)
[08:27] <OerHeks> !info unity-tweak-tool
[08:28] <rudi-c> thanks guys, i'll go search for that then. thanks
[08:28] <loaden> dw1: only exist a folder named .Trash-0
[08:29] <Node_865> clue_h im using  Nvidia binary 337.12 in software and updates, if i use the X.Org X server driver, the resolution changes to 1024 when it black screens to CRT-0
[08:29] <pijkemur> whois arietis
[08:30] <dw1> loaden: k that means its root's trash I guess (not an expert) ..
[08:30] <howto> done with the ppa purge, reboot now?
[08:30] <dw1> loaden: not sure a regular user can use it
[08:30] <dw1> loaden: so maybe create .Trash-1000 for your user (number from /etc/password)
[08:31] <dw1> loaden: /etc/passwd sorry..
[08:31] <dw1> loaden: first user is 1000 so normally 1000
[08:31] <Node_865_> hello, im back
[08:31] <Guest_1004>  "just master quested the water temple without the Zora tunic"
[08:31] <Node_865_> ubuntu froze, num lock was froze, mouse was frozen
[08:31] <Node_865_> had to hard-reset
[08:32] <Node_865_> ubuntu 14.04 is really unstable for me :(
[08:32] <Node_865_> and my computer is actually, pretty good
[08:32] <dw1> loaden: so i suppose the command would be sudo mkdir /.Trash-1000; sudo chown username.username /.Trash-1000
[08:32] <howto> Guest_1004: seriously, a hello script?
[08:32] <Node_865_> im sad ubuntu have gone backwards, in terms of being stable
[08:32] <daniel664> howto: what's your problem?
[08:33] <Node_865_> when i switch tabs, usually get a graphical glitch where the old tab flickers over the new one.
[08:33] <loaden> dw1: thx
[08:33] <Node_865_> should i try  and install an older kernel version of ubuntu?
[08:33] <loaden> dw1: I am trying
[08:33] <Node_865_> like 12.04?
[08:33] <Node_865> clue_?
[08:33] <dw1> loaden: put your username twice with a period in between instead of username.username
[08:33] <howto> 11:16:12 <howto> hello, I was trying to install NVIDIA drivers, it's .run file kept on giving errors, about the x server first, then about something called nouveau kernel driver, so finally when I was searching for a fix to the new error, I found a ppa called x-swat, downloaded their driver, rebooted, and now after the lock screen I see nothing but the
[08:33] <howto> background image and a 11:16:12 <howto> crash error saying system program problem detected. I can still use command line, what should I do?
[08:33] <clue_h> Node_865_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia 'low and missing screen resolutions'
[08:34] <howto> daniel664: ^
[08:34] <clue_h> Node_865, if it continues it may be best to use the open source drivers provided
[08:34] <linuxuser1000> back again
[08:34] <daniel664> howto: remove the crappy driver
[08:34] <linuxuser1000> is additional drivers supposed to mark xorg edgers as open source?
[08:34] <howto> already done
[08:34] <daniel664> then reboot
[08:35] <loaden> dw1: still does not work
[08:35] <Node_865> clue_h xrandr --addmode S-video 1920x1080 xrandr: cannot find output "S-video"
[08:35] <linuxuser1000> the nvidia binary drivers i mean
[08:35] <howto> Already done
[08:35] <dw1> loaden: ok remove that and let me look up the real way :P
[08:35] <bobby_> Which of the major laptop brands makes the best hardware for Linux?
[08:35] <loaden> dw1: thx
[08:35] <daniel664> howto: mmmmmmm maybe um start gnome-session --session=ubuntu manually
[08:35] <daniel664> howto: no idea i'm off
[08:36] <howto> btw, I'm using the 14.04 let's
[08:36] <howto> lts*
[08:36] <loaden> dw1: I'll try to reboot my Ubuntu
[08:36] <daniel664> howto: yeahg it's fucking unstable
[08:36] <daniel664> howto: if i could i'd cancel the installation
[08:36] <Node_865> clue_h sadly im having the same issues with all drivers provided by ubuntu, when i was "trying" ubuntu before installing, 13.04 as well. The installation screen worked fine. It's something that Ubuntu uses that my computer doesn't like.
[08:37] <Node_865> I love ubuntu, and I wanted to switch over my gaming PC to play video-games here, but if it can't work right out of the box, im speechless...
[08:37] <howto> OerHeks: any idea?
[08:37] <linuxuser1000> does xorg-edgers give you proprietary?
[08:37] <rudi-c> thanks for the info on unity guys, it's just what i needed.
[08:38] <howto> purge removed that ppa, nothing changed. :(
[08:38] <Node_865> do you have any suggestion on what i should do, to have a 100% success rate with ubuntu? some kernel that cant go wrong
[08:39] <leafbug_> anyone using port mirroring from a switch to linux server?
[08:40] <clue_h> Node_865, a clean install, no additional drivers, is what i did to get my graphics working again
[08:40] <leafbug_> I have a wired problem to ask
[08:40] <codingismypassio> when i touch removable device in my uefi settings ubuntu won't boot
[08:41] <Node_865> clue_h, this was a clean installation, in hope of fixing this issue:(
[08:41] <clue_h> Node_865, which version of ubuntu?
[08:41] <linuxuser1000> does the xorg edgers ppa give you a proprietary driver?
[08:41] <Node_865> i had 13.0*
[08:41] <dw1> loaden: the trash is at ~/.local/share/Trash does that folder exist?
[08:41] <leafbug_> uefi setting sucks in ubuntu
[08:42] <clue_h> Node_865, have you tried installing 14.04?
[08:42] <Node_865> this is 14.04
[08:42] <Node_865> i had the issue in 13.04, and formated to 14.04 in hopes of solving the issue, right off the bat same problem.
[08:42] <Node_865> should i try downgrading to 12.04?
[08:42] <Node_865> or is there any motherboard drivers, etc, i should install?
[08:43] <loaden> dw1: yes, it exist
[08:43] <loaden> but it's own by root
[08:43] <dw1> loaden: when you delete what happens?  it pops up a message and says permanent delete?  or no message?
[08:43] <clue_h> Node_865, what does lshw -c video say under configuration?
[08:44] <loaden> dw1: delete what? any files?
[08:44] <dw1> loaden: yeah
[08:44] <loaden> dw1: it'f pops up a message
[08:44] <loaden> dw1: it tell me can't move file to trash
[08:44] <Node_865> clue_h   *-display                       description: VGA compatible controller        product: GK106 [GeForce GTX 660]        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation        physical id: 0        bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0        version: a1        width: 64 bits        clock: 33MHz        capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom        configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0        resources: irq:64 memory:f6000000
[08:44] <dw1> loaden: and the file you are deleting is in your home folder somewhere?
[08:44] <linuxuser1000> why does additional drivers say my driver isn't proprietary
[08:44] <loaden> dw1: i can choice to real delete from disk
[08:44] <linuxuser1000> i've installed nvidia-334 from xorg-edgers
[08:45] <linuxuser1000> it's running
[08:45] <loaden> dw1: the file or folder is in my home
[08:45] <loaden> dw1: I can delete ~/.local/share/Trash?
[08:45] <dw1> loaden: no.... are there any files in Trash in Nautilus ?
[08:45] <gry> or you can right click trash and empty it properly
[08:46] <dw1> loaden: under Places
[08:46] <loaden> dw1: no file
[08:46] <loaden> on nautilus see, the trash is empty
[08:46] <Node_865> nvidia has more later drivers then what ubuntu can install through the repo, though, if i try and shutdown the x.org server to able to install the driver, the screen just goes black, can't move frmo there.
[08:47] <howto> Installing gdm now
[08:47] <howto> Maybe it'll help
[08:47] <dw1> loaden: ok look at the file ~/.local/share/Trash and see the owner.. is it your username or root ?
[08:47] <loaden> dw1: it's root
[08:48] <dw1> loaden: ok yeah remove it with sudo rm -r Trash
[08:48] <dw1> loaden: then as the regular user do mkdir Trash; chmod 700 Trash
[08:48] <dw1> loaden: that should fix it
[08:49] <loaden> dw1: thx!
[08:49] <dw1> loaden: we both learned something :)
[08:49] <loaden> dw1: it's fixed
[08:49] <dw1> loaden: you're welcome
[08:49] <loaden> dw1: thank you!
[08:52] <linuxuser1000> hey dwl does the xorg edgers ppa give proprietary drivers or are they open?
[08:53] <linuxuser1000> additional drivers marks my nvidia driver as open for some reason
[08:53] <linuxuser1000> but the name is nvidia binary driver
[08:53] <linuxuser1000> i think that's the proprietary one,right?
[08:53] <landau> hello, is there a way to check an ext3 partition from windows?
[08:53] <Guest_1004>  "I'd like to shove my ipod in iH8sn0ws face and say "you put dat cydia on my ipod you sickk guy""
[08:53] <dw1> linuxuser1000: i just use nvidia-current.. no idea
[08:53] <clue_h> Node_865, one other thing to change the resolution, add the resolution to modes using the same syntax as the others by going to: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:53] <clue_h> Node_865, and restart afterwards
[08:55] <llutz> landau: no, use live-usb/-cd
[08:55] <landau> can't use it....it's a very old pc
[08:55] <landau> :(
[08:56] <dw1> landau: check for errors?  probably not.. open.. perhaps with an application http://www.howtogeek.com/112888/3-ways-to-access-your-linux-partitions-from-windows/
[08:56] <kalyan_> as
[08:56] <landau> dw1: yes i need to check errors
[08:57] <dw1> landau: no cd or usb... ?  i guess the only option would be put another drive in that has an operating system on it and make it primary.........
[08:57] <upsla> Ugly graphics and messed up graphics during boot up. Running 14.04/
[08:58] <landau> dw1: ok i'll try it!
[08:58] <dw1> landau: go buy cd drive.. prob $10-15 :)
[08:58] <dw1> landau: ok good luck
[08:58] <landau> thanks
[08:58] <dw1> landau: make sure its a linux operating system. :P
[08:58] <upsla> Ugly graphics and messed up graphics during boot up. Running 14.04. Any suggestions ?
[08:59] <landau> dw1: of course! :P
[09:00] <dw1> upsla: reinstall video driver and/or grub perhaps
[09:00] <upsla> dwl:tried not helping me.
[09:01] <dw1> upsla: purge video driver perhaps
[09:01] <howto> so, again, I tried to install NVIDIA drivers, it error end out twice, when researching the second error I found a ppa called x-swat, installed the driver from there, rebooted, after the login screen I started to see just the background image with a system program error, I purge removed the ppa, rebooted, nothing changed, installed gnome to try my luck,
[09:01] <howto> rebooted, now it's booting and i think it's stuck.
[09:01] <upsla> dwl:tried that too.
[09:02] <dw1> upsla: its the grub thats messed up?  or after that?
[09:03] <upsla> dwl:login screen and boot.
[09:03] <clue_h> upsla, graphics arent fully utilized during boot
[09:03] <howto> oh well, it's not stuck, it just can't launch gnome
[09:03] <dw1> upsla: you can edit grub graphics like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/54067/how-do-i-safely-change-grub2-screen-resolution
[09:03] <howto>  I have command line access
[09:03] <dw1> upsla: assuming grub2
[09:03] <howto> What should I try?
[09:04] <dw1> upsla: (grub-pc package)
[09:04] <upsla> dwl:all i can see boot up screen and login is set to the right resolution
[09:04] <ubuntuser13> upsla: try to boot using nomodeset
[09:05] <akurilin> Quick question: what do people in the know recommend as a solid laptop to use for ubuntu?
[09:05] <akurilin> mostly with programming in mind
[09:05] <akurilin> I'd go for a mbp if I knew that the hardware would be easily supported
[09:05] <akurilin> those things seem nicely built, but I also don't want to spend too much time making sure everything's comaptible
[09:07] <clue_h> akurilin, take a look at system76 machines
[09:07] <clue_h> they are built with ubuntu in mind
[09:07] <clue_h> *for ubuntu
[09:08] <clue_h> akurilin, so compatibility would not be a problem then :]
[09:09] <Node_8316> hello
[09:09] <Guest_1004>  "I own iPhone 3G Update worked for the network and lock the system did not hold to open"
[09:09] <Node_8316> how do i exterminate my video drivers? need to install all over again
[09:09] <dw1> akurilin: I like my Acer E1, the cheapest one from Walmart, with an extra 4Gig RAM to make it 8 :)
[09:09] <howto>  deleted gnome, reinstalled lightdm, lock screen showed up again
[09:09] <Node_8316> i'll just reinstall ubuntu completely.
[09:10] <howto> logged in again and the same error
[09:10] <howto> yay
[09:10] <gry> what error?
[09:11] <clue_h> Node_8316, i thought of another way to add resolution but you left. if you type xrandr in terminal, then set res, like:  xrandr --output LVSD1 --mode 1024x600
[09:11] <howto> System program problem detected or so
[09:11] <Dreadlish> LVDS1*
[09:11] <Dreadlish> afaik.
[09:11] <clue_h> afaik?
[09:11] <howto> As Far As I Know
[09:12] <Dreadlish> yup.
[09:12] <clue_h> my output for xrandr, LVDS1 connected primary 1366x768+0+0....
[09:12] <clue_h> (partial)
[09:12] <howto> Also, gry, my problem is that after I log in I see nothing but that error and the background image.
[09:13] <gry> you need to give this channel the full error message; I hope it is more thorough than "System program problem detected"
[09:13] <dw1> Node_8316: shouldnt be too hard to remove them
[09:14] <ubuntuser13> <how t0> try to login using graphic failsafemode in recovery.
[09:15] <dw1> I know that System problem detected popup.. its not very informative
[09:15] <howto> So, again, I tried to install NVIDIA drivers, it error end out twice, when researching the second error I found a ppa called x-swat, installed the driver from there, rebooted, after the login screen I started to see just the background image with a system program error, I purge removed the ppa, rebooted, nothing changed, installed gnome to try my luck,
[09:15] <howto> didn't even launch gnome properly, uninstalled gnome, reinstalled lightdm, and now I'm back to zero.
[09:15] <howto> gry: ^
[09:16] <someHuman> How do I make my Ubuntu more secure? Or secure? They've been telling me that Ubuntu sucks lol, I am running 14.04 LTS.
[09:16] <gry> howto: okay, I retreat. I know absolutely nothing about drivers. I might suggest checking kernel logs in /var/log/error.log, /var/log/kern.log, but someone else should help with them.
[09:16] <howto> Also, it's not more than that, I think it's the default crash message.
[09:17] <dw1> howto: check logs.. dmesg .. dpkg -l | grep <stuff> to find driver remnants to purge ... install nvidia-current?
[09:17] <gry> someHuman: some of https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html applies to Ubuntu too
[09:17] <someHuman> gry: Thanks! ;)
 by installing Rootkit revealer,clam av antivirus .lynis auditing tools
[09:18] <dw1> someHuman: if you encrypt home folder and swap then if its stolen your files cant be viewed
[09:18] <ryck> Hi. I've created a shortcut to open a specific directory with Nautilus (command: "nautilus directory/"). It works, but unfortunately it opens the directory in the background (I see the Nautilus icon in the launcher, but it appears behind the current window). How can I fix this?
[09:18] <B_Little> I have a LXTerminal desktop icon in LXDE, how can i make irssi autostart when i launch that icon ?
[09:18] <dw1> someHuman: provided youre logged out or screen is locked when its stolen. :)
[09:18] <howto> Also, gry, error.log isn't there.
[09:18] <someHuman> dw1: I didn't encrypt mine as I am not that paranoid haha!
[09:19] <someHuman> dw1: Ah ok.
[09:19] <gry> err.log, whetever, just list them
[09:19] <howto> dw1: I don't understand what you meant, can you be a bit more noob friendly?
[09:19] <fenixfunk> anyone here mess with Linux on the UG802 TV stick or on any rk3066 devices at all?
[09:19] <dw1> someHuman: other than that... you're probably behind a router which protects you from external probes and attacks, and even then, linux is pretty solid and wont be harmed, except if someone brute forces your ssh password
[09:20] <howto> gry: nothing starts with e lol
[09:20] <someHuman> dw1: I think so, I live in an area that is not a hot topic to politics lol.
[09:21] <someHuman> dw1: What I mean is, we're probably not gonna be attacked by hacker people like the SEA.
[09:21] <dw1> howto: did you ever try the ubuntu nvidia-current driver?  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:21] <Guest85501> http://eventos.barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=14/04/25/0027232
[09:22] <dw1> someHuman: dont let the haters get to you is my advice then :P
[09:22] <dw1> someHuman: but understanding things will help with peace of mind
[09:22] <howto> dw1: that was what I installed just before I rebooted which started this error thing
[09:22] <howto> dw1: it was from a ppa
[09:22] <dw1> howto: yeah i mean the ubuntu one not from 3rd party ppa
[09:22] <howto> dw1: so when I purged the ppa, it was gone
[09:22] <someHuman> dw1: Yeah, I wish there was a LIKE button here.
[09:23] <dw1> howto: remove that ppa and install nvidia-current from ubuntu
[09:23] <howto> dw1: so you're saying installing it may solve this problem? trying...
[09:23] <robcsi> hi. anyone experienced kernel panics at boot, lately? I had version 12.04 installed, then I upgraded to 13.10 and now to 14.04 and it occurred in all versions. I also did a clean 14.04 install. with 14.04 it's less common, but it occurred a few times
[09:24] <howto> dw1: done, rebooting
[09:25] <chris112> using gnome 3 on 14.04. ubuntu keeps forgetting dual monitor setup.
[09:26] <howto> yep. no change. :(
[09:27] <howto> System program problem detected Do you want to report the problem now?
[09:27] <ryck> If I run "nautilus <directory>/" then Nautilus appears behind the current window (terminal in this case). How can I bring it to the front?
[09:27] <ryck> (Via the terminal of course.)
[09:28] <dw1> howto: so the graphics are working fine just no desktop icons and stuff?
[09:28] <dw1> howto: what did you remove....
[09:28] <howto> dw1: yep, but it worked before I installed it too.
[09:28] <gry> "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[09:29] <dw1> howto: do what gry said
[09:29] <dw1> thats a good one :)
[09:29] <howto> done, rebooting
[09:29] <howto> yup
[09:30] <howto> let's see...
[09:30] <howto> oh well
[09:30] <howto> no change
[09:30] <howto> still the same error
[09:31] <howto> I thought this would solve it :(
[09:32] <dw1> howto: find out what the error is by checking the logs
[09:32] <dw1> howto: ctrl-alt-f1 for terminal
[09:32] <howto> /var/crash, right?
[09:32] <howto> Also, that was what I've been using lol.
[09:33] <dw1> howto: /var/log/Xorg.0.log  /var/log/syslog
[09:33] <dw1> howto: ~/.xsession-errors
[09:34] <howto> I have one somewhat interesting, _usr_bin_Xorg.0.crash
[09:34] <dw1> more interesting might be what's inside it :P
[09:35] <dw1> a juicy string to google, perhaps :)
[09:36] <howto> I'm pretty sure there was a way to use pastebin from the terminal...
[09:36] <howto> what was it?
[09:36] <llutz> !pastebinit | howto
[09:39] <cumana> hello
[09:39] <howto> Wait, how do I use it on a file? Tried -i, didn't work.
[09:39] <Guest_1004>  "I've really tried every solution, what can be found here and on the net, so please do not close this topic, until we have real solution!"
[09:39] <dw1> howto: cat file | pastebinit ?
[09:40] <llutz> howto: pastebinit file
[09:40] <dw1> Guest_1004: why do you keep quoting random things
[09:40] <cumana> I'm compiling kernel on my own through localmodconfig, but it seems that some neccessary module gets missed - root fs can not be mounted; maybe the module was loaded on startup and then went rmmod'ed? could I somehow get a list of all modules used during startup?
[09:41] <howto> paste.ubuntu.com/7343787
[09:41] <[twisti]> how can i install a self signed ssl thing as trusted so programs dont ask for confirmation/deny it ?
[09:42] <diverdude> is this command not supposed to add the eic user to the www-data group ? sudo useradd www-data eic
[09:43] <DestinyAwaits> how to share a pdf file on the same network nginx
[09:43] <DestinyAwaits> ??
[09:43] <llutz> diverdude: adduser eic www-data
[09:43] <dw1> howto: k that makes no sense to me and doesnt seem useful.. anything good elsewhere?
[09:43] <dw1> howto: also how old is that log
[09:43] <DestinyAwaits> how to share a pdf file on the same network nginx??
[09:43] <dw1> howto: recent?
[09:43] <howto> dw1: yes
[09:44] <howto> dw1: that's a crash report afaik
[09:44] <howto> dw1: lemme find a log
[09:44] <diverdude> llutz: ok...i dont want to create the user...he already exists...just add eic to group www-data and thats it....does adduser eic www-data do just that?
[09:44] <howto> .0 or .1?
[09:44] <llutz> diverdude: "adduser user group" "man adduser"
[09:44] <dw1> howto: are you referring to Xorg.0.log ?
[09:45] <llutz> diverdude: read part "Add an existing user to an existing group"
[09:45] <howto> paste.ubuntu.com/7343816
[09:45] <howto> dw1: yes
[09:45] <DestinyAwaits> can anyone help??
[09:46] <howto> paste.ubuntu.com/7343830
[09:46] <DestinyAwaits> Can anyone help?? how to share a pdf file on the same network nginx??
[09:46] <diverdude> llutz: ok...and how can i then see what groups a user is member of?
[09:46] <llutz> diverdude: group/id
[09:46] <llutz> diverdude: groups/id
[09:47] <diverdude> llutz: command groups/id  does not work
[09:47] <llutz> diverdude: 2 commands, both work
[09:48] <diverdude> llutz: ahh so groups eic gives       eic : eic www-data        so eic is both in eic and www-data now?
[09:48] <llutz> diverdude: yes
[09:48] <diverdude> llutz: id eic -> uid=1001(eic) gid=1001(eic) groups=1001(eic),33(www-data)
[09:48] <howto> Also, syslog, paste.ubuntu.com/7343855
[09:48] <llutz> diverdude: but if you just changed that and eic was logged in, let him logout/login again to be sure the changes are active
[09:49] <DestinyAwaits> Can anyone help?? how to share a pdf file on the same network nginx??
[09:49] <DestinyAwaits> Can anyone help?? how to share any file on the same network nginx??
[09:50] <DestinyAwaits> or anything
[09:51] <diverdude> llutz: hmm is it enough to just log in again with sudo su eic ?
[09:51] <howto> dw1: any luck?
[09:51] <llutz> diverdude: su - eic
[09:52] <diverdude> llutz: its actually a cronjob which will run as eic
[09:52] <llutz> diverdude: then its not needed
[09:52] <dw1> howto: i dont see anything... you broke something good :P
[09:52] <dw1> howto: could try reinstalling a few things.... apt-get install --reinstall compiz xserver-common xserver-xorg-core
[09:52] <dw1> howto: still digging
[09:53] <howto> wait a sec, I'll purge remove xserver then reinstall it by hand
[09:53] <dw1> howto: why
[09:53] <howto> So everything will be reinstalled
[09:54] <howto> related to it, I mean.
[09:54] <dw1> howto: some people say these things can help:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:54] <dw1> howto: purging is just more work, reinstall :)
[09:56] <dw1> howto: i dunno, you killed something bad.. that kernel crash aint good or very helpful at all :(
[09:57] <dw1> howto: pay attention when you purge things and what gets purged with it :)
[09:57] <dw1> howto: ive done that before... removing something i didnt think i needed removed part of the OS
[09:58] <someHuman> How do I update my gcc?
[09:58] <dw1> howto: also try to use standard drivers
[09:58] <howto> Well, is there a way to remove all packages and reinstall all ubuntu?
[09:59] <dw1> howto: might be a list of base packages you could install/--reinstall
[10:02] <howto> Ah f.ck, I give up, I still have command line access, I'll just take everything I need and format the disk-reinstall ubuntu
[10:02] <dw1> howto: or you could compare against my list of 3464 but it takes some scripting and i dont want to spend that much more time its late
[10:02] <dw1> yeah
[10:02] <dw1> actually you could do a diff against mine ......
[10:03] <howto> Meh
[10:03] <howto> Wait, how do I change disks again?
[10:03] <howto> On command line, I mean.
[10:04] <Gryllida> howto: What package broke everything? Is it on Launchpad?
[10:04] <dw1> howto: what do you mean change disks
[10:04] <Luyin> hello, is there an option for apt-cache to show a package only if it's installed on the system?
[10:04] <Guest_1004>  "My cousin removed cydia installer from my iphone 5 ios 6.1.2."
[10:05] <howto> dw1: like my hard drives,
[10:05] <howto> dw1: I need to cd to another disk
[10:06] <dw1> youd have to mount it somewhere
[10:06] <fenixfunk> oh my goodness you all don't know how easy you have it on x86
[10:06] <dw1> or it might already be mounted in /media or somewhere
[10:06] <fenixfunk> i've been working on getting picuntu flashed to my android rockchip device
[10:06] <fenixfunk> i'm really looking forward to a native ubuntu install
[10:06] <howto> dw1: oh shit, how'd I mount a disk?
[10:08] <dw1> stuff on other disk wont be harmed during reinstall anyway
[10:08] <dw1> mkdir /media/mydisk; mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /media/mydisk # or somethin
[10:09] <Bhargav97> is there any good ubuntu emulator for android?
[10:09] <dw1> Bhargav97: the guy above mentioned 'picuntu' maybe its a hint :)
[10:09] <[twisti]> you mean android emulator for ubuntu ?
[10:10] <Bhargav97> no
[10:11] <Bhargav97> ubuntu emulator for android
[10:11] <Bhargav97> dw1, picuntu is only for rockchip
[10:12] <dw1> howto: anyway if you want my dpkg -l for comparing to yours with diff do wget "https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/xc5sax71l763ibj/dwpkgs?dl=1"
[10:12] <david__> hi
[10:13] <dw1> howto: then youd do dpkg -l > mypkgs; diff mypkgs dwpkgs
[10:15] <someHuman> How do I do a screen shot?
[10:15] <dw1> howto: then look for important-looking packages and install them :)
[10:15] <someHuman> I am using 14.04 LTS.
[10:15] <howto> someHuman: press print screen
[10:16] <someHuman> howto: Then?
[10:16] <howto> someHuman: a window will pop up
[10:16] <someHuman> howto: Nothing is.
[10:16] <Vic_> Hello?
[10:16] <Guest_1004>  "Cant find cydia i think i might have deleted it"
[10:18] <dw1> Guest_1004: you are a spam bot go away
[10:19] <wahsbai> hello
[10:19] <someHuman> dw1: How do I do a screenshot?
[10:20] <someHuman> dw1: howto told me to press print screen key, nothing happens.
[10:20] <wahsbai> I am on Ubuntu 14.04 right now, using my integrated cpu card. I have two monitors. One is hooked up to my GPU. The problem is that my monitor using my GPU doesn't detect at all, any solutions? Kind regards
[10:20] <Pessimist> someHuman, use scrot
[10:20] <dw1> someHuman: yeah thats the key usually.. alt-Printscreen will do the window not the full screen
[10:21] <someHuman> dw1: Ah ok
[10:21] <someHuman> Thanks!
[10:21] <dw1> someHuman: maybe your keyboard is funny and you need to add function key or something
[10:21] <dw1> someHuman: printscreen should work
[10:21] <someHuman> Probably, but alt+print screen is fine with me.
[10:22] <dw1> someHuman: you can view the shortcuts in System Settings -> Keyboard
[10:22] <wahsbai> IGFX, CPU integrated -> monitor 1 working........ GPU NVIDIA -> monitor 2, not working
[10:22] <someHuman> dw1: Thanks, I gotta go though. Cya! ;)
[10:24] <wahsbai> ok, seems no one knows
[10:25] <dw1> wahsbai: check out System Settings -> Screen Display
[10:25] <sgo11> I am using ubuntu 14.04 64bit and have installed "libpcre3 libpcre3-dev" packages. but when I compile a package, it always complains "configure: error: PCRE requested, but not found.". why? thanks.
[10:26] <yei5foo9> Is 14.04 an LTS release?
[10:26] <wahsbai> dw1 I only see the monitor hooked up to the motherboard/integrated GPU
[10:26] <sgo11> yei5foo9, yeah.
[10:26] <wahsbai> yes 14.04 is a LTS release
[10:26] <yei5foo9> How long does an LTS get supported for?
[10:26] <wahsbai> 4-5 years
[10:26] <yei5foo9> Ah
[10:26] <wahsbai> fyi I installed Nvidia drivers, nothing happening t hough
[10:28] <ssv001> hello everyone
[10:28] <dw1> sgo11: perhaps it wants libpcre++-dev ?
[10:28] <sgo11> dw1, I installed it too. it still has the same error.
[10:29] <dw1> sgo11: perhaps you can manually specify the path to the file it wants..
[10:29] <sgo11> dw1, ok. let me see...
[10:30] <dw1> sgo11: and/or figure out what file exactly
[10:30] <dw1> sgo11: hack the script :)
[10:30] <sgo11> dw1, :) thanks.
[10:31] <dw1> wahsbai: all i can do :) http://google.com/search?q=ubuntu+nvidia+second+monitor+not+working
[10:31] <dw1> wahsbai: no experience with it
[10:32]  * dw1 retires
[10:32] <Dinosaurio> Nouveau works with 2 monitors, however it has a worse perfomance
[10:35] <sgo11> dw1, oh. I have that issue. I opened a bug before 14.04 release. actually I opened many bugs related to graphics.
[10:35] <wahsbai> you have my bug?
[10:36] <wahsbai> also, ubuntu + nvidia is totally broken for me
[10:36] <wahsbai> graphical glitches, hangups, etc, even using current drivers
[10:36] <Dinosaurio> wahsbai: Have you tried Nouveau?
[10:36] <wahsbai> i don't believe so
[10:36] <sgo11> bug #1288572 bug #1296020 bug #1297090
[10:36] <wahsbai> i reinstalled ubuntu around 10-20 times
[10:37] <Dinosaurio> wahsbai: I recommend you to install Nouveau; if you don't play games that requiere high perfomance, you'll be fine till a patch is released
[10:37] <wahsbai> okay
[10:38] <wahsbai> I'm enabling it in my settings
[10:38] <Dinosaurio> !nouveau
[10:38] <wahsbai> I enabled it in additional drivers
[10:38] <Dinosaurio> wahsbai: now you have to restart computer
[10:39] <howto> What about ubuntu looping lock screen and a black screen when a hdmi is connected?
[10:39] <fenixfunk> try turning the hdmi cable around
[10:39] <howto> 14.04
[10:39] <wahsbai> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1296020
[10:39] <wahsbai> wow dude!
[10:39] <wahsbai> i have this exact same problem!
[10:39] <wahsbai> so is it a bug?
[10:40] <howto> wahsbai: guess so
[10:40] <wahsbai> I will restart my computer
[10:40] <wahsbai> and try with this open source driver
[10:41] <sgo11> wahsbai, yeah, you can see that is marked as critical. I opened this bug one month before 14.04 release.
[10:41] <wahsbai> great
[10:41] <jeregon> good luck to you!
[10:41] <howto> wahsbai: did it work with 13.10?
[10:41] <wahsbai> i had 13.10 in my laptop SSD, decided to switch over, so i pulled it in my main computer, I had exact issue as that bug
[10:41] <wahsbai> so i thought a reformat to 14.04 would solve the issue
[10:42] <wahsbai> but it was same, graphical issues, changing resolution whenever i went into settings
[10:42] <jeregon> wahsbai: what is your problem?
[10:42] <howto> Anyone else with the hdmi error: did it work with 13.10?
[10:43] <wahsbai> when i forced my x.org to 1920x1080 in nvidia control panel, the only issue i had was that my monitor went black for 2 seconds whenever I went into system settings/audio settings or anything in general. my monitor changed to Unknown/CRT-0, when I shut down settings and repeated, it changed back, and vice-versa
[10:44] <wahsbai> but I will restart now with noveau drivers and try it out, thanks, ill come back and tell u
[10:44] <wahsbai> from my regular monitor name to unknown/CRT-0 was the switch
[10:44] <wahsbai> unknown/crt-0 was automatically in 1060x768 or something, before i forced into 1920x1080
[10:50] <dark-age> samba domain controller setup working with 14.04 ?
[10:51] <wahsbai> hello im back
[10:51] <wahsbai> the problem persists with the open-source drivers
[10:52] <wahsbai> it's actually much worse than using the nvidia drivers
[10:53] <wahsbai> it is flickering constantly, black screen, and it changes position: when i took a screenshot it looks a lot better than it actually is
[10:53] <wahsbai> http://i.imgur.com/iuhbfC9.png
[10:53] <wahsbai> here is a screenshot
[10:54] <jeregon> wahsbai: have you tried actually fidelling with the config file of nvidia?
[10:54] <jeregon> aka whatever.maybetext
[10:55] <wahsbai> i think that the nvidia drivers are broken
[10:55] <jeregon> what version are you using?
[10:56] <wahsbai> well
[10:56] <wahsbai> it must be something else
[10:56] <jeregon> wahsbai: you could also look at the console for specific errors and message nVidia about it
[10:56] <wahsbai> because both nvidia, and the nouvea drivers are giving me graphical glitches, resolution changing 24/7
[10:56] <wahsbai> im using the nouvea open source drivers
[10:56] <wahsbai> that come with ubuntu
[10:57] <wahsbai> someone told me that ubuntu will work with it: same issue
[10:57] <jeregon> wahsbai: so you've been having these problems since you installed?
[10:57] <wahsbai> almost worse than with the nvidia drivers
[10:57] <jeregon> what processor do you have?
[10:57] <wahsbai> i have intel i7 2600k
[10:57] <Keba> hi there
[10:58] <wahsbai> i been having these graphical issues since i installed
[10:58] <randypfau> i have 4 partitions mounted for samba shares... 2 ntfs and 2 are ext4... for some reason when i go on a remote machine running windows 7 i am able to access the shares.. i set up the permissions for all of the shares the same. i cannot write to the ext4 shares. anyone have this problem ever? did i miss somthing?
[10:58] <jeregon> wahsbai: hmmm, well you could try using it's on board video to work with light weight stuff for a while instead
[10:58] <wahsbai> well the intel integrated cpu works perfect
[10:58] <wahsbai> no issues
[10:59] <jeregon> meaning!?
[10:59] <wahsbai> if i go into BIOS and select iGFX as my GPU primary, it uses intel hd 3000 graphics instead of my nvidia card that doesnt run
[10:59] <wahsbai> all the problem comes with having an nvidia card
[11:00] <Keba> Im using Ubuntu 12.04 with XFCE and updated my system yesterday. After a reboot the windows lack the "close, maximize, minimize" bars and all my XFCE settings (such as shortcut for maximize) are not loaded, I only have one workspace etc. How to fix that?
[11:00] <wahsbai> jeregon, im going to approach this issue in a different kind of way
[11:00] <jeregon> ok so, you've tried it haha... in what kind of new way?
[11:09] <ItsYoda> Would running "do-release-upgrade" on a dedicated server with just a commandline be a *bad* idea?
[11:10] <cfhowlett> ItsYoda after a proper backup of data?  don't see why it should be.
[11:10] <ItsYoda> Mk. Thanks
[11:12] <noobhere> hello, im new to ubuntu from windows, want to play games with steam but im having issuses, the resolution keeps switching around, and getting black screens between that for few seconds
[11:12] <noobhere> first time installing
[11:15] <noobhere> i got this error Could not switch the monitor configuration                          could not set the configuration for CRTC 9
[11:21] <ichat> hi when running minecraft, it seams that it somehow locks sound to just java (so for example i cant play background music),  version is  13.10  java versions test are  open jdk  7 and   oracle java 8.
[11:22] <ichat> on a diferent pc it works but i cant figure out what is diferent about it...
[11:22] <ichat> even hardware is identical
[11:22] <Guest4608> samsung2020
[11:27] <penthief> Does anyone have acestream running on 14.04?
[11:27] <daniel664> howto: did u get it sorted?
[11:30] <howto> kinda, reinstalling ubuntu.
[11:30] <iDaniel> howto: k
[11:31] <iDaniel> howto: install the 13.10 instead
[11:31] <iDaniel> howto: if 14.04 doesn't work better or as good as 13.10 i'll downgrade
[11:31] <howto> a question though, if I select Erase disk and install Ubuntu, which disk will it erase?
[11:31] <Ben64> theres no reason to install 13.10
[11:31] <iDaniel> howto: no idea
[11:31] <iDaniel> howto: just choose manual setup
[11:31] <Ben64> 13.10 loses support in less than 3 months
[11:32] <iDaniel> Ben64: nah i installed 14.04 on a friends comp and it crashed each hours
[11:32] <iDaniel> hour*
[11:32] <howto> I'm guessing sda?
[11:32] <Ben64> ok, that still doesn't make it a good idea to install 13.10
[11:32] <iDaniel> mmmm yeah
[11:32] <iDaniel> you're right maybe 12.04 would be better
[11:32] <Ben64> or figure out the problem and use 14.04
[11:33] <iDaniel> mmmm that takes time....
[11:33] <howto> Anyone?
[11:33] <iDaniel> howto: choose manual setup
[11:33] <Ben64> howto: whichever disk it tells you it will erase
[11:33] <howto> cause my data in sdb is very important
[11:33] <Ben64> have backups or unplug that drive then to be sure
[11:33] <iDaniel> can't u see on for example the label which partitaion is which
[11:33] <josmala> Upgraded to 14.04 and no panels in gnome flashback mode(metacity) and gnome flashback mode (compiz) has only unity style side menu.
[11:34] <peterpacz1> How do install lubuntu and xubuntu on top of ubuntu - Hey, how could install the xfce and lxde desktop managers on top of ubuntu, so I can choose which one I want to use at the grub boot menu?
[11:34] <iDaniel> mmm afaik u can just install them with for example tasksel and choose when u login....
[11:34] <Ben64> peterpacz1: you wouldn't choose them at grub, you'd choose when you're logging into ubuntu.
[11:34] <iDaniel> lol 2 seconds difference
[11:35] <peterpacz1> Ben64: Yes, something like that. I'd wish have all the files, system settings, etc the same. Just that I have the choice to choose the desktop manager
[11:35] <iDaniel> are that important changes to my apache2.conf ?
[11:35] <peterpacz1> How would I do that?
[11:35] <iDaniel> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/1Tty2OP8
[11:35] <howto> So we need an efi partition, about 200 mb, anything else?
[11:35] <iDaniel> howto: swap
[11:35] <iDaniel> howto: and system partition
[11:35] <josmala> How can I get the gnome classic experience in 14.04
[11:36] <iDaniel> peterpacz1: i think that would work if you just install them in tasksel
[11:36] <Ben64> peterpacz1: then use the software center and install either the xfce and/or lxde or the whole packages, like xubuntu-desktop and/or lubuntu-desktop. doing the latter will give you extra terminals and text editors and stuff, not sure if you want all that
[11:36] <howto> iDaniel: how big should they be?
[11:36] <iDaniel> howto: which?
[11:36] <iDaniel> howto: swap is if your ram is full
[11:36] <iDaniel> howto: then it writes to swap instead
[11:36] <iDaniel> howto: so if u have like 32GB ram
[11:36] <howto> Lol I have 16gb of ram
[11:36] <iDaniel> howto: u can take a small swapo
[11:36] <iDaniel> howto: take 4GB
[11:37] <iDaniel> howto: better then a too small one
[11:37] <iDaniel> howto: or how large is your hdd?
[11:37] <peterpacz1> Ben64: Thanks. I am doing this because I have a install of ubuntu on a portable hard drive, and I'd want to use it to boot into other computers, both high end and low end. So is installing different display managers a good idea?
[11:37] <iDaniel> (mine is 2TB so it doesn't matter)
[11:38] <Ben64> peterpacz1: depends what you want. it definitely wouldn't hurt anything to have multiple
[11:38] <howto> Ok, just efi and swap?
[11:38] <iDaniel> howto: yeah and then the system partition....
[11:38] <iDaniel> howto: if u have an old computer without efi you don't ned one :)
[11:38] <peterpacz1> Ben64: Well, Id want it to work on all sorts of computers, redundency in a sense. So if the computer couldn't cope with unity, I can use xfce, for example.
[11:39] <Ben64> peterpacz1: makes sense
[11:39]  * iDaniel records the whole upgrade process with 1fps for sure
[11:39] <linuxuser1000> LOL
[11:40] <peterpacz1> Ben64: Also, in the sake of redundency, would I also need to install multiple wireless drivers, in order to compensate if someone's computer is using broadcom, for example?
[11:40] <linuxuser1000> I Just got steam installed and a guy tried phishing me
[11:40] <linuxuser1000> saying to download a file
[11:40] <linuxuser1000> in the archive there was an exe file
[11:40] <iDaniel> (What's steam?)
[11:40] <linuxuser1000> little does he know i'm running linux
[11:40] <linuxuser1000> a gaming thing
[11:40] <iDaniel> linuxuser1000: run it with wine
[11:40] <linuxuser1000> with a chat in it
[11:40] <Ben64> linuxuser1000: really not on topic here, but congrats?
[11:40] <puju> hello!
[11:40] <Guest_1840>  "First off, I don't pay for any of the ones that BigBoss & others wants me to pay for, I get them from other repos" http://bit.ly/1aFZ3pl"
[11:40] <peterpacz1> linuxuser1000: Well, congratulations. I'd laugh in his face
[11:41] <linuxuser1000> it's a virus
[11:41] <linuxuser1000> i went to the site
[11:41] <linuxuser1000> put a fake password
[11:42] <linuxuser1000> and quit
[11:42] <llutz> !ot | linuxuser1000
[11:42] <linuxuser1000> lol
[11:42] <howto> !guidelines
[11:43] <howto> Any #ubuntu-unguided? Lol.
[11:43] <iDaniel> mmm is there a source code of ubottu?
[11:43] <howto> iDaniel: there has to be, but is it open?
[11:44] <iDaniel> so "restart system to complete the upgrade"
[11:44] <iDaniel> howto: mmmm
[11:44] <iDaniel> c ya
[11:44] <llutz> iDaniel: http://ubottu.com/
[11:44] <iDaniel> o thanks
[11:45] <howto> oh well, ubottu is a female bot then.
[11:45] <Jay> hello. why when i install xubuntu 14.04 do i have a black background and i dont get the install bar while installing?
[11:45] <Guest_1840>  "My ipod is 5g and with the update iOS 6.1.3 people say you can jail break it but it saids on 1 website that my ipod is to new but on the app it says the my device is not supported could you PLEASE make it so I and many people can use jail break"
[11:45] <remmaps> Ubuntu sucks!
[11:45] <iDaniel> bye
[11:46] <iDaniel> mmm it doesn't reboot
[11:46] <iDaniel> so not bye
[11:46] <iDaniel> does it still install updates now or shall i reboot manually?
[11:47] <iDaniel> nah i'l reboot manually
[11:47] <jakex> what is the cli equivalent of the Sound program?  I want to change sound output in a script
[11:49] <iDaniel> ok
[11:49] <iDaniel> rebooted
[11:49] <iDaniel> and it doesn't boot
[11:49] <iDaniel> grub errors out
[11:50] <remmaps> UK Company which pays 2% daily.
[11:50] <remmaps> Check it out:
[11:50] <remmaps> https://www.laxotrade.com/?ref=gorbachev
[11:50] <iDaniel> here's the error:
[11:50] <cfhowlett> remmaps take your spammy spam away,
[11:51] <iDaniel> error: symbol `grub_term_highlight_color’ not found.
[11:51] <iDaniel> entering eescue mode....
[11:51] <iDaniel> rescue*
[11:51] <iDaniel> any ideas?
[11:51] <llutz> iDaniel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1289977
[11:52] <iDaniel> ok
[11:52] <iDaniel> so the fix is bruning a dvd and reinstalling grub?
[11:52] <iDaniel> thanks
[11:53] <iDaniel> i'll try that later then...
[11:53] <iDaniel> c ya
[11:54] <llutz> iDaniel: i'd suggest http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/
[11:54] <Gibarian> If I want to replace my windows partition in a dual system (Windows XP/Ubuntu) with another Ubuntu based partition, is it possible by just overwriting the windows partition directly, using the third option in the Ubuntu installer?
[11:55] <cfhowlett> Gibarian yes.
[11:55] <Gibarian> ok
[11:56] <josmala> Howto make gnome-panel run automaticly when going gnome flashback mode with metacity?
[11:56] <howto> lol you just pinged me :p
[11:57] <sruz25> does someone know how to bind ctrl+alt+h/j/k/l to arrow keys? It's annoying to have to move my hand to arrow keys in conventional text editors...
[11:57] <josmala> howto: Well chosen nick.
[11:58] <Ruffles> i see what you did there
[11:58] <vak> hi all, are bugs of Ubuntu 14.04 to be discussed here?
[11:58] <cfhowlett> !bug|vak
[11:59] <vak> cfhowlett: i'd like to ask first...)
[11:59] <cfhowlett> vak share but don't expect instantaneous results unless you've paid for platinum level support :)
[12:00] <vak> I am experiencing a bug: upon login mouse stops to react on any clicks, when I press Alt-Ctrl-F1 and then back Alt-Ctrl-F7 it all works fine then
[12:00] <Luyin> my keyboard keeps switching to "en (us)" without my doing anything. the indicator keeps showing "de" for german, but the keys are all switched. is there anything I can do about that?
[12:05] <vak> ok, filing a bug...
[12:08] <hero616> what lib or api is suitable for drawing dynamic curve like cpu utilization
[12:15] <An_Ony_Moose> does rsync's -z affect local copy operations at all, or does it only apply when transferring data via network?
[12:17] <nezZario> Only network, An_Ony_Moose
[12:18] <An_Ony_Moose> nezZario: ok, thanks!
[12:18] <nezZario> It wouldn't make sense to compress the "transfer" for a mv operation -- it only compresses the transfer, not the destination / end result =)
[12:19] <nezZario> So guys, I've been a ltitle annoyed with Ubuntu lately.  No matter what, it seems determined to make me walk into the next room everytime I have to reboot
[12:20] <An_Ony_Moose> nezZario: I know, I was asking because I wasn't sure if it wouldn't be better to leave out -z for my thing
[12:20] <An_Ony_Moose> (habit makes me type -avzP :P )
[12:21] <nezZario> For one, I added some entries to /etc/fstab for three USB drives .. When I boot and the usb drives aren't present, it prompts me during boot .. This is a headless home server.  What's making it do that?
[12:21] <nezZario> An_Ony_Moose: I'm pretty sure -z will have no effect for local tranasfers
[12:21] <nezZario> So it's OK that you have it
[12:22] <howto> hello again
[12:22] <howto> i have one more question
[12:22] <Blarghy> Hey guys.  I just installed Xubuntu 14.04 and when I ran aticonfig --intial, it blew out my ath9k wifi.
[12:23] <howto> so i'm trying to connect to my vpn using openvpn
[12:23] <howto> i do "openvpn --config config.ovpn"
[12:23] <An_Ony_Moose> nezZario: ok, thanks!
[12:23] <howto> it works, but...
[12:23] <iDaniel> ok found an old disc
[12:24] <jack> which games are good, in saucy?
[12:24] <howto> vpn's dns isn't used
[12:25] <iDaniel> so running boot/repair
[12:25] <iDaniel> boot-repair|
[12:25] <jack> is assaultcube worth a try?
[12:25] <iDaniel> damn english keybroad
[12:25] <iDaniel> jack: minecraft
[12:25] <howto> i found a website, dnsleaktest.com
[12:25] <Bluewolf> Hi all,
[12:25] <iDaniel> lol
[12:25] <iDaniel> hi
[12:25] <cfhowlett> jack whydo you even ask.  download, try it and see for yourself.
[12:26] <howto> apparently dns leaks is a known windows issue
[12:26] <howto> i guess this is a 14.04 bug maybe?
[12:26] <howto> anyway, how can i fix it?
[12:27] <jack> cfhowlett: slow link, big files...
[12:27] <howto> any idea?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> jack understood.  lots of free games on steam and in ubuntu software center
[12:28] <jack> better to ask first (downloading already anyway)
[12:28] <howto> also, jack, i think you should consider asking that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:28] <Blarghy> Hey guys.  I just installed Xubuntu 14.04 and when I ran aticonfig --intial, it blew out my ath9k wifi. help?
[12:29] <jack> but i didnt check out steam at all yet
[12:29] <nezZario> Blarghy: what do you mean it "blew out" your wifi?
[12:29] <krishna_> blew out?
[12:29] <Blarghy> nezZario, it was working, I ran aticonfig --initial, restarted my system and now it doesn't work
[12:29] <Blarghy> it's still listed in ifconfig and iwconfig
[12:29] <Blarghy> but it won't connect
[12:30] <smack> I've got a user that I don't want to be able to send mail via sendmail, do any of you know how I should go about doing this+
[12:30] <smack> ?
[12:31] <nezZario> Actual sendmail or exim ?
[12:31] <nezZario> (if exim, you should specify that)
[12:31] <smack> sendmail
[12:31] <nezZario> No idea on plain 'ol sendmail...
[12:32] <howto> anyone having the same issue?
[12:33] <llutz> smack: use sendmails access database,  user@example.com REJECT
[12:33] <cfhowlett> jack sure it's not a vpn configuration issue?
[12:33] <Node_753> my screen goes black for a few seconds when i go into different system settings, like display, audio, etc, why is that
[12:34] <Node_753> starting to get annoying
[12:34] <smack> I'm trying to block the user's network access all together and I've added the following iptable rules. http://pastebin.com/EttaGuVS
[12:34] <howto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7344797/
[12:34] <smack> However the user is still able to send mail via sendmail
[12:34] <Node_753> and my login screen is in like 460p, when i login it goes back to 1080p
[12:35] <nezZario> yeah, that's because network access is performed using a different user
[12:35] <Guest_1255> yey!
[12:35] <Guest_1255> it worked
[12:35] <nezZario> and, you should be aware any application that operates similarly will still be available to that user
[12:36] <Guest_1255> my comp booted again
[12:36] <howto> anyone? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7344797/
[12:36] <Guest_1255> btw what's new in ubuntu 14.10
[12:36] <smack> Any idea how I should go about avoid this type of issue?
[12:37] <cfhowlett> Guest_1255 look on www.ubuntu.com for feature descriptons
[12:37] <iDaniel> mmmmmmmmmmmmk
[12:37] <Guest_1255> lol no i'm too lazy
[12:37] <Guest_1255> let's check for updates...
[12:38] <jack> cfhowlett: what? my uplink? im throttled to GPRS speed atm...
[12:38] <Guest_1255> grmpf no upgrades
[12:38] <cfhowlett> jack just a thought ...
[12:38] <nezZario> smack: you need to review what binareis they have access to.. if you're really that worried about "sealing off" that user, you might want to do a chrooted shell
[12:38] <nezZario> I mean, you might want to consider it regardless
[12:38] <iDaniel> so bye...
[12:38] <iDaniel> c ya
[12:38] <jack> blame my isp ;)
[12:41] <howto> anyone? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7344797/
[12:43] <smack> The user is used to evaluate submissions in a programming contest. Programs submitted by contestants are run as this user. By means of sendmail they are now able to send the input used to test programs to their own email.
[12:43] <nezZario> smack: you could turn off sendmail...
[12:44] <smack> Though I haven't confirmed it I suspect that the website running on the same server uses sendmail to send confirmation email etc.
[12:45] <nezZario> Someone gave you an answer earlier, too
[12:45] <llutz> smack: crate a virtual-machine for evaluation, reset it after each test to setup identical environment, cut it from network completly
[12:45] <nezZario> ^^ proper way
[12:45] <llutz> create*
[12:46] <nezZario> You can't really run arbitrary code on the same system you have your website, etc running on.. It'll never be "secure"
[12:47] <fstab11> hi all! i just installed a new system on an empty drive. Now when i want to boot the system it says there is no "sdb1" (which was the label of the disk during install). How can i fix this?
[12:48] <hdzahedi> hi everybody. how can I find a packages name to use with apt-get. for example I have projectlibre in launcher and dash but I dont now the package name for terminal applies
[12:48] <llutz> hdzahedi: dpkg -S filename
[12:48] <nezZario> fstab11: well, interestingly, what does your fstab say?  it should've created the labels by uuid
[12:48] <nezZario> entries* by uuid
[12:50] <fstab11> nezZario: it shouldve, yes.. hold on
[12:51] <hdzahedi> llutz, is there anyway to export pod file (projectlibre) to mpp (ms. project)?
[12:51] <llutz> hdzahedi: i don't know
[12:52] <cfhowlett> hdzahedi almost certainly.  I know there's an MS Access .mdb transcoder.  duck duck go/google search
[12:52] <howto> please http://paste.ubuntu.com/7344797/
[12:53] <rebelCoder> 14.04 is awesome!
[12:53] <hdzahedi> cfhowlett, thank you.
[12:54] <naeem> ciao
[12:54] <fstab11> nezZario: it does
[12:54] <naeem> !list
[12:55] <ZeroViscosity> Empathy Keeps Crashing -_-
[12:55] <fstab11> nezZario: umh.. theres an uncommented "/dev/sdb1/" entry however
[12:55] <nezZario> That doesn't make sense, I mean the system is unbootable?
[12:55] <fstab11> nezZario: my uninformed guess would be the bootloader is messing up?
[12:56] <fstab11> nezZario: well the bootmanager loads; but then it looks for /root which it cant find
[12:57] <ZeroViscosity> Need help guys my VGA is not being recognized by Ubuntu...
[12:58] <llutz> fstab11: re-install grub using live-cd/-usb or http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/
[12:59] <fstab11> nezZario: i use Syslimux
[12:59] <nutzz> hey guys, is theer any tool that alows you to record your screen and your camera at the same time, somehing like camtasia studio on windows?
[13:00] <cfhowlett> nutzz there are many desktop screen records.  see the software center.
[13:00] <fstab11> nezZario: is there a way to edit syslinux-config?
[13:00] <ZeroViscosity> So no one here can help? -_-
[13:00] <cfhowlett> hdzahedi http://www.thetechhub.com/2009/12/free-microsoft-project-viewer-for-mac.html
[13:01] <loucal> I lost power to my ubuntu machine a few days ago while I was out and I have been trying to get things working again with my dual monitor setup ever since.  All my configuration is the same so this has left me scratching my head, I got xorg all straightened out but after about 8 hours my monitors go into standby and I can't get them back.  I can ssh in and reboot it but that's all.  Anyone have any ideas?
[13:02] <dcmg> loucal: i disable all sleep and standby stuff
[13:02] <dcmg> not sure where the setting is in the unity toolbar. i mostly use ubuntu on my moms computer
[13:02] <fstab11> nezZario: oh, i think i got the err: its in /boot/syslinux/syslinux.cfg
[13:03] <dcmg> but i disable everything to keep things like this from happening, as she is low vision
[13:03] <loucal> dcmg: thanks but that was the first thing I did
[13:03] <loucal> and I don't use unity, I use fluxbox
[13:04] <dcmg> well in that case you really do need to just adjust xorg
[13:04] <fstab11> nezZario: thanks for your help
[13:04] <dcmg> make sure there is no background daemon from unity still running
[13:04] <dcmg> and try making a .Xdefaults file
[13:05] <dcmg> maybe try  `xset s noblank'
[13:06] <dcmg> i runs a script like this:
[13:06] <dcmg> xsetroot -solid black ; xrandr --output CRT1 --mode 1400x1050 ; xset s off ; xset -dpms ; xset s noblank
[13:06] <dcmg> works for me, idk
[13:07] <dcmg> for dual monitors it would be something like:
[13:07] <dcmg> xrandr --auto --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768  --right-of LVDS1
[13:07] <dcmg> replace the designations with your device names from the output of `xrandr'
[13:07] <dcmg> designations are "VGA1" "CRT1"  and et cetera
[13:08] <loucal> yeah I get what you are doing there but that is kind of hacky for something that was working fine for months... I use xset on my machines when I need to do something 'special'... I just want this to stay on
[13:08] <Staberinde> Hey folks, i'm going to be upfront and say i've done something rather stupid, I was upgrading a laptop to 13.10 via command line. I reached the point when I was asked whether I wanted to to replace the default applications definition with the updated version. I chose to diff the file, and once i'd reached the end, in a moment of madness, I ctrl-c 'd to get out of the diff. So I have 2 questions: 1. I don't think I got
[13:08] <Staberinde> past the stage of unpacking files for install, but could someone with knowledge with the ordering of the upgrade script please confirm that this is the case? If it's not, just how badly have I screwed things up? 2. In order to run do-release-upgrade again, I need to release the lock left in place by aptitude, can someone tell me where abouts this lock is located? Thanks in advance
[13:08] <dcmg> loucal: well at least you know how to do it now
[13:09] <dcmg> sometimes it takes a hack to fix a borked system
[13:09] <loucal> dcmg... I'm already familiar with it but nothing there is permanent is my point
[13:09] <dcmg> sure there is, put it in your Xdefaults file
[13:10] <dcmg> the syntax is just a little different
[13:10] <loucal> ? xdefaults isnt for bash commands
[13:10] <dcmg> no
[13:10] <dcmg> like here is mine:
[13:10] <dcmg> cat .Xdefaults
[13:10] <dcmg> xterm*background: black
[13:10] <loucal> i know it isn't
[13:10] <dcmg> stuff like that, controls Xorg, xterm and all of its tools
[13:10] <dcmg> anyway you have a nasty attitude
[13:11] <Luyin> hey guys, the alt+f2 command makes my unity crash. does anyone else have this issue?
[13:11] <Node_753> my screen
[13:11] <Node_753> keeps going black
[13:11] <Node_753> for a couple of seconds
[13:11] <Node_753> when i go into settings
[13:11] <Node_753> whyy
[13:11] <cfhowlett> !enter|Node_753 s
[13:11] <Node_753> shitbuntu
[13:11] <cfhowlett> Node_753 STOP using the enter key.
[13:11] <Node_753> !enter
[13:12] <cfhowlett> Node_753 and no profanity
[13:12] <howto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7344797/
[13:13] <howto> Then, I found a guide, plone.4aero.com/Members/lmarzke/howto/openvpn-push-dns
[13:14] <howto> Then, when I did that, my whole connection stopped working
[13:14] <masterkorp> hellol
[13:14] <Guest_1255>  "It had the spinning white circle in the middle of the screen and so i just waited for three days."
[13:15] <howto> Guest_1255: stfu please
[13:15] <masterkorp> so what is the procedure to upgrade from an old natty distro ?
[13:15] <loucal> you're welcome not to answer dcmg, I really don't care what you think of my attitude, but I'm simply trying to stop you from wasting your time, also I have in the past tried setting an Xdefaults file as well as an Xresources file and neither settings were picked up so we must have different setups.  Either way, setting everything via xset isn't what I'm trying to do.  Thanks for your help but that solution isn't what I'm looking for.  Is t
[13:15] <loucal> better?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade|masterkorp but it will take hours.  better to just clean install
[13:15] <masterkorp> ok, all i do its to install skype
[13:17] <Hsic> hi to all!
[13:18] <Hsic> is possible to use an pc with ubuntu like an rtsp player?
[13:18] <Staberinde> Hey folks, i'm going to be upfront and say i've done something rather stupid, I was upgrading a laptop to 13.10 via command line. I reached the point when I was asked whether I wanted to to replace the default applications definition with the updated version. I chose to diff the file, and once i'd reached the end, in a moment of madness, I ctrl-c 'd to get out of the diff. So I have 2 questions: 1. I don't think I got
[13:18] <Staberinde> past the stage of unpacking files for install, but could someone with knowledge with the ordering of the upgrade script please confirm that this is the case? If it's not, just how badly have I screwed things up? 2. In order to run do-release-upgrade again, I need to release the lock left in place by aptitude, can someone tell me where abouts this lock is located? Thanks in advance
[13:18] <Staberinde> Hey folks, i'm going to be upfront and say i've done something rather stupid, I was upgrading a laptop to 13.10 via command line. I reached the point when I was asked whether I wanted to to replace the default applications definition with the updated version. I chose to diff the file, and once i'd reached the end, in a moment of madness, I ctrl-c 'd to get out of the diff. So I have 2 questions: 1. I don't think I got
[13:18] <Staberinde> past the stage of unpacking files for install, but could someone with knowledge with the ordering of the upgrade script please confirm that this is the case? If it's not, just how badly have I screwed things up? 2. In order to run do-release-upgrade again, I need to release the lock left in place by aptitude, can someone tell me where abouts this lock is located? Thanks in advance
[13:18] <masterkorp> its seems all the repositories are dead
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !aptlock|Staberinde
[13:19] <peterpacz1> How can I recover a wifi password that is saved in windows?
[13:19] <peterpacz1> From ubuntu?
[13:19] <cfhowlett> Staberinde after reboot, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to get all the default pacakges
[13:20] <ben_xyzzy_> How to I execute a command as root whenever any user logs in via SSH, _without_ PAM?
[13:20] <bekks> ben_xyzzy_: you dont. :)
[13:20] <bekks> ben_xyzzy_: You have to use PAM, since thats the authentication mechanism used.
[13:21] <ben_xyzzy_> I have "UsePAM no" in sshd_config
[13:21] <Thom__> hi
[13:22] <bekks> ben_xyzzy_: But you still log in, and the login on your box uses PAM - sshd itself doesnt.
[13:22] <OerHeks> peterpacz1, i guess you cannot, as it is not saved in .txt format
[13:23] <Bluewolf> I have just reinstalled my computer completely with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and at random Im getting a system error (System program problem detected - Do you want to report the problem now?)
[13:23] <ben_xyzzy_> bekks: Login is achieved with client keys, not password. Hence PAM disabled
[13:23] <Bluewolf> When I continue on to report the error it then comes up with (Sorry, ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error - Send an error report to help fix this problem) How can I fix this problem?
[13:26] <llutz> ben_xyzzy_: use /etc/hosts.allow, like "sshd:        ALL:  command...."
[13:26] <cornernote> hi, im trying to do something simple, but its not working, perhaps someone can help.. i putting MAILTO="cornernote@gmail.com" in my cron (eg: sudo crontab -e)
[13:26] <cornernote> but i dont get any email
[13:28] <llutz> cornernote: do you have a MTA installed/configured?
[13:28] <falematte> Hi guys, I have Ubuntu 12.04 since the beginning and now I want to make a clean installation of 14.04 without erasing my "home" folder. How is it possible? I have separate partitions for \home, \boot and \
[13:29] <ben_xyzzy> llutz: Cheers, that looks good
[13:29] <cfhowlett> falematte clean install, set your /home to the correction partition and DO NOT FORMAT THAT PARTITION
[13:30] <rvdv> falematte: just do a clean install and at the partitioning choose manual ... choose self ...
[13:30] <rvdv> use /mount and indeed DO NOT FORMAT
[13:30] <rvdv> use same user account name and all will go well
[13:31] <falematte> thank you guys, gonna check it out
[13:32] <lostmymind> falematte eat some bacon while you do it.........it won't help your installation, but, at least you'll have bacon!
[13:32] <Bladewolf> Guys, I need help
[13:32] <Bluewolf> My Ubuntu 14.04 LTS is coming up with a (System program problem detected) at random, I have reported the problem but how can I find out what the problem is or fix it?
[13:33] <bekks> Bluewolf: Click on "Details"?
[13:33] <Bladewolf> I'm trying to copy a file over from my Windows HostOS to my Ubuntu GuestOS. How do I paste the file?
[13:33] <Bladewolf> Or if you can't help me, can you point me to a channel that can
[13:34] <bekks> Bladewolf: How do you copy, using which program?
[13:34] <clue_h> i think you need guest additions, and enable sharing folders
[13:34] <llutz> Bladewolf: shared folders, ssh(scp,sftp)
[13:34] <Bluewolf> bekks: It does not give me that option and the window has vanished?
[13:34] <Bluewolf> llutz: shared folders?
[13:35] <bekks> Bluewolf: Shared folder. Which virtualization solution do you use?
[13:36] <ben_xyzzy> Bluewolf: What have you tried? Have you searched the internet for this? Lots on forums.virtualbox.org (if that's what you're using) and askubuntu.com
[13:36] <Bladewolf> My VM crashed :O
[13:37] <Bluewolf> bekks,: Sorry could you be more clear, I'm not familiar with " virtualization solution"?
[13:37] <Bladewolf> clue_h: I have the GuestAdditions module installed, and Drag'n'Drop is set to Bidirectional
[13:37] <Bluewolf> ben_xyzzy, I don't use virtualBox.
[13:37] <bekks> Bluewolf: You are running a VM. Which software do you use to create the VM?
[13:38] <llutz> Bladewolf: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#sharedfolders
[13:38] <Bladewolf> bekks: VirtualBox
[13:38] <ben_xyzzy> lol
[13:38] <llutz> some confusion about blade and blue wolves i guess
[13:38] <Bladewolf> Lol
[13:38] <bekks> I've never s een a blue blade wolf so far.
[13:38] <Bladewolf> I'm not blue!
[13:39] <bekks> Bladewolf: In fact, you are purple in my client.
[13:39] <bekks> Bladewolf: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#sharedfolders
[13:39] <Bladewolf> bekks: Thanks man
[13:40] <Bluewolf> Bekks: I'm not using Virtualbox at all, its not even installed on my machine. I just have Ubuntu installed along side windows 7
[13:40] <Bluewolf> Bladewolf: It appears were similar in a way :D
[13:41] <Bladewolf> Bluewolf: Hell no
[13:42] <Bladewolf> I've just shared my entire C:\ drive. How do I access it?
[13:42] <Bluewolf> Bladewolf: Fair enough, we could just remain different.
[13:42] <Bladewolf> Bluewolf: Lol
[13:43] <Bluewolf> llutz: I don't use Virtualbox, this problem cant be because of it.
[13:43] <llutz> Bluewolf: i wasn't talking to you
[13:43] <manlycode> I found an entry for "upstart-events" in the Natty Narwahl docs (http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man7/upstart-events.7.html). But it doesn't seem to be in more recent releases.
[13:43] <manlycode> ...is that command still available in some form?
[13:43] <ben_xyzzy> Bluewolf: No, it probably isn't. What does your 'details' button say?
[13:44] <cornernote> llutz: the MTA wasnt the issue, but i solved it.. thanks for repling
[13:45] <howto> hey
[13:45] <howto> so
[13:46] <Bluewolf> ben_xyzzy, Thats just it, there is no details button. All it says is - (System program problem detected - Do you want to report the problem now?) when one continues it then says - (Sorry, ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error - Send an error report to help fix this problem) Which I have done?
[13:46] <howto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7344797/
[13:46] <howto> ^this, any idea?
[13:46] <Bladewolf> howto: I'll take a look at it
[13:46] <rypervenche> howto: You have to set it up to use your VPN's DNS.
[13:46] <howto> yeah, that's what i want to do
[13:47] <Bladewolf> rypervenche: He's trying to do that
[13:47] <ben_xyzzy> On that "...internal error..." dialog there should be a 'Show details' button. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f9sjQBKMqlc/UCJGLsLs6xI/AAAAAAAAEvo/LdFgHTppXJk/s400/ubuntu-error-problem-detected.png
[13:48] <rypervenche> howto: I don't remember how to do it. :X Have you tried #openvpn?
[13:48] <Bladewolf> ...Is just powering off an Ubuntu VM without shutting down the OS first dangerous?
[13:48] <jasabella> you might lose unsaved work hehe
[13:48] <bekks> Bladewolf: sure.
[13:49] <ben_xyzzy> Bluewolf: On that "...internal error..." dialog there should be a 'Show details' button. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f9sjQBKMqlc/UCJGLsLs6xI/AAAAAAAAEvo/LdFgHTppXJk/s400/ubuntu-error-problem-detected.png
[13:49] <Bladewolf> jasabella: Yes, but will it break the OS?
[13:49] <uporot> jasabella,hi)
[13:49] <bekks> Bladewolf: it may break it.
[13:49] <jasabella> if you're doing package management probably
[13:49] <Bladewolf> bekks: Because I just powered it off. In the middle of a logoff
[13:50] <jasabella> but im a newbie lol
[13:50] <jasabella> if i break my vm, i just make a new one :D
[13:50] <ben_xyzzy> Bladewolf: You probably got away with it. Not advisable though, as with real machines.
[13:50] <bekks> If i break a vm, I restore the latest snapshot.
[13:50] <jasabella> that too hehe
[13:50] <Bladewolf> jasabella: I didn't give this thing 20gb of harddrive space for no reason, you know
[13:51] <jasabella> but im too lazy to take snapshots regularly
[13:51] <jasabella> Bladewolf... hope you got backups :)
[13:51] <rypervenche> Backups backups backups. Always keep backups if your data is important.
[13:51] <Bladewolf> rypervenche: How???
[13:51] <bekks> !backup | Bladewolf
[13:51] <Bladewolf> I don't want to copy a 20gb virtual HARDDRIVE everytime my OS fails
[13:52] <bekks> Bladewolf: then choose an appropriate backup method-
[13:52] <Bladewolf> ubottu, bekks: Thanks
[13:53] <Bladewolf> Tried to say thanks to you, wanna know what ubottu PM'd me with?
[13:53] <Bladewolf> 14:50 ubottu:» Sorry, I don't know anything about bekks: Thanks
[13:54] <jasabella> ubottu is a bot
[13:54] <kima> i need help
[13:54] <kima> :p
[13:54] <Bladewolf> ubottu: Are you a bot?
[13:54] <Bladewolf> :3
[13:55] <ben_xyzzy> Bladewolf: Two lols from me in one session so far...
[13:55] <Bladewolf> ben_xyzzy: Lol ok
[13:55] <Bluewolf> ben_xyzzy: Yes the error is similar to that but it does not have (If you notice further problems, try restarting the computer.) and it does not have the details button?
[13:55] <bekks> Bladewolf: Lol, you said lol. :P
[13:55] <JCM83> how do I check whether I have certain python modules and libraries on an ubuntu system? And how can I get those libraries and where do I put them when I get them?
[13:55] <Bluewolf> ben_xyzzy: It looks like this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/43103/system-always-start-with-system-program-problem-detected-dialog
[13:56] <jasabella> JCM83... look into python pip
[13:56] <Bladewolf> !python | JCM83
[13:56] <JCM83> jasabella thanks
[13:56] <ben_xyzzy> Yes, then click Report problem. Then you should get the dialog I mentioned. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f9sjQBKMqlc/UCJGLsLs6xI/AAAAAAAAEvo/LdFgHTppXJk/s400/ubuntu-error-problem-detected.png
[13:56] <ben_xyzzy> Bluewolf: Yes, then click Report problem. Then you should get the dialog I mentioned. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f9sjQBKMqlc/UCJGLsLs6xI/AAAAAAAAEvo/LdFgHTppXJk/s400/ubuntu-error-problem-detected.png
[13:57] <bananapie> Ubuntu 14.04 64bit => I just connected to a samba share with file manager, how can I create a shortcut to this share in the unity bar on the left ?
[13:57] <Bladewolf> I can see your chats with Bluewolf, ben_xyzzy
[13:57] <Bladewolf> (I see them in my hilights window)
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> bananapie: cog menu in nautils -> add to bookmarks
[13:57] <Bluewolf> Bladewolf, Told you we were similar :D
[13:58] <bananapie> I did that, but it doesn't add it to the launcher on the left
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> bananapie: or under the bookmarks menu. I forget which
[13:58] <ben_xyzzy> Bladewolf: The ones that start with Bluewolf: are highlighted? Your chat program is using loose matching for the names
[13:58] <Bluewolf> ben_xyzzy, Yes I do get that image but without a details button, Should I follow what they say on the site?
[13:58] <Bladewolf> Bluewolf: That's only because I have "Wolf" as a hilight phrase
[13:58] <Bladewolf> ben_xyzzy: Irssi is using loose matching? :O
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> bananapie: if you open Nautilus, do you see the shortcut at the top?
[13:58] <Bluewolf> Bladewolf, See the similarity :-P
[13:59] <Bladewolf> bekks: Sharing my C:\ drive didn't help
[13:59] <bananapie> when I open file manager, it says "bookmarks" in the left pane of the file manager window. But I want the bookmark in the unity bar.
[13:59] <Bladewolf> Bluewolf: You're a blue wolf. I'm not
[13:59] <bekks> Bladewolf: Why not?
[13:59] <ben_xyzzy> Bladewolf: Never used it. That's my guess. If both wolves are using the same program and haven't changed the matching, what Blue- said is the loose matching.
[13:59] <Bladewolf> bekks: I can't see it in my FILE MANAGER
[13:59] <junka> networkmanager does not display what driver is in use
[14:00] <bekks> Bladewolf: you have to mount the shared folder in your guest.
[14:00] <ben_xyzzy> On that note, I'm going to the shop. Cos here in the UK they all close at 4pm on Sunday,
[14:00] <Bladewolf> ben_xyzzy: I already said. It's because the phrase "Wolf" is set to hilight me
[14:00] <Bladewolf> bekks: I have done
[14:00] <Bladewolf> ben_xyzzy: Cya
[14:00] <hikenboot> can anyone please tell me what the latest methods of accessing windows shares from ubuntu is? is it cifs? or samba? or other? ...is there a quick config that actually works?
[14:00] <Bluewolf> Bladewolf, Still a member of the pack :D
[14:00] <ben_xyzzy> Bladewolf: My wolf limit is reached now
[14:00] <bananapie> go into filemanager
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> hikenboot: cifs and samba will work
[14:01] <bananapie> there is an optiion to connect to samba shares
[14:01] <Bladewolf> bekks: How would I access the drive once it's mounted?
[14:01] <Dharmesh> hi
[14:01] <Bluewolf> ben_xyzzy, Not with me? :D
[14:01] <bekks> Bladewolf: Open your file manager, go to the mount point, done.
[14:01] <ben_xyzzy> Bluewolf: Still going to the shops
[14:01] <Bladewolf> bekks: My mount point is C:\ not a folder
[14:01] <hikenboot> ActionParsnip, is it as easy as apt-get install cifs?
[14:02] <Bladewolf> bekks: So how would I get into it?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> hikenboot: thendefault file manager and Ubuntu has what is needed in the OS already
[14:02] <Bluewolf> ben_xyzzy, Before you go, should I follow the instructions on that site I sent you?
[14:02] <Conna> halo all
[14:02] <bekks> Bladewolf: By navigating to it.
[14:02] <hikenboot> ok thanks I will check but it doesnt seem to see the windows shares when browsing the windows network
[14:02] <uporot> conna,heil!
[14:03] <Conna> huh?
[14:03] <hikenboot> but it could be a dns issue will check
[14:03] <nezZario> So, still, been asking for a while, I guess I can try a mailing list
[14:03] <uporot> conna,)
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> hikenboot: use the connect to server option in nautilus.
[14:03] <Bladewolf> bekks: I'm also getting an error every time I close the SHAREDFOLDERS SETTINGS window
[14:03] <hikenboot> thanks
[14:03] <bekks> Bladewolf: Which error?
[14:04] <bekks> Bladewolf: And how did you mount the shared folder in your guest?
[14:04] <Conna> Ubuntu in Facebook 1.000.000 like!!
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Conna: so?
[14:04] <nezZario> I have two issues with ubuntu ... I added some entries to /etc/fstab for three USB devices .. but now when it boots, if those devices aren't present it gives me a prompt to (s)kip or (r)etry [or something similar].  What is causing this?  I've never seen another unix-like OS give me this prompt
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> !away > CyberJacob|Away
[14:04] <Conna> nothing ^.^
[14:05] <Bladewolf> bekks:
[14:05] <Bladewolf> VirtualBox - Warning
[14:05] <Bladewolf> The virtual machine execution may run into an error condition as described below. We suggest you take an appropriate action to avert the error:
[14:05] <Bladewolf> Broken shared folder!
[14:05] <spearson> Hi, I'm trying to update my system to prepare for 14.04 but the update manager stalls at cups-client and it doesn't seem to mater which server I chose either (main server or United states server))
[14:05] <Bladewolf> Error ID:
[14:05] <Bladewolf> BrokenSharedFolder
[14:05] <Bladewolf> Severity:
[14:05] <Bladewolf> Warning
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Bladewolf: i'd ask in #vbox too
[14:05] <llutz> nezZario: don't set "auto" in options
[14:06] <spearson> they both fail, cups-client and cupt
[14:06] <spearson> cups*
[14:06] <bekks> Bladewolf: Then the shared folder was not created and you were not able to mount it.
[14:06] <Bladewolf> bekks: It's C:\
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Bladewolf: there are guides on YouTube too :-)
[14:07] <bekks> Bladewolf: It isnt. You got an error that it wasnt created.
[14:07] <spearson> does anyone know why it fails?
[14:07] <nezZario> llutz: I don't have auto in the mount options (or anywhere else).  I guess it's implied, I'll try adding noauto
[14:07] <nezZario> But honestly I'd like it to mount if it's present
[14:07] <llutz> nezZario: then use a combination of fstab and rc.local (checking for presence/mounting if so)
[14:09] <spearson> can anyone help?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Spearson: can it be removed?
[14:10] <spearson> and then it says failed to download package files check your internet connection
[14:10] <spearson> I know I have a connection as I'm chatting with you
[14:12] <nezZario> llutz: thanks, i swear i've done i before on other linux OS's and it didn't cause an issue, but it must've been noauto
[14:13] <nezZario> second issue, i've been struggling with for a WHILE, ... somewhat randomly, when ubuntu is at the bootloader, it never times out and gets stuck at the bootloader prompt .. anyone have any ideas on that?
[14:14] <spearson> #ActionParsnip, do you recommend that I remove the cups and reinstall?
[14:14] <martianlobster1> my workspace switcher disappeared after doing an apt-get autoremove.  What do I need to apt-get install to get it back?
[14:15] <nezZario> I've tried asking in #grub as well but it's pretty low volume.  This is a headless machine, so when it happens I have to take grab a keyboard from across the house and plug it in just to press 'enter'
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> spearson: if it can be removed without hauling loads of OS out then yes
[14:16] <spearson> you think if I remove cups it will hurt the OS?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> spearson: you can use apt-get to show what it will remove.
[14:16] <spearson> also, will it still fail if I remove cups
[14:16] <nezZario> It's particularly concerning because it seems random -- some of the time it boots normally (times out) without intervention but some of the time not, .. there is a pattern of some sort because it seems when I 'reboot' it will timeout properly, but if I shutdown -h now and then boot by pressing the on switch, usually it sticks at the prompt
[14:19] <Bladewolf> Lol
[14:19] <odsent> how do i install the Tor tar.kz file
[14:19] <odsent> xz
[14:19] <bekks> !tor | odsent
[14:19] <odsent> !tor-sasl
[14:21] <gartral> hey all, I'm quite upset with mozilla corporation and looking to install a Firefox alternaive in Ubuntu 13.10 (chrome isn't an option as it's just too 'heavy' for my comp) I was hoping iceweasel was in repos, but it isn't
[14:21] <glenn_> Hey guys
[14:21] <module000> gartral: iceweasel is not a firefox alternative. it's a firefox recompilation with the artwork and name changed - nothing else
[14:21] <glenn_> i need some help, again
[14:22] <k1l> gartral: iceweasel is the de-branded firefox from debian. ubuntu uses firefox
[14:22] <glenn_> I just can't change the resolutions in Xubuntu...
[14:22] <gartral> module000: still thats what im looking for
[14:22] <glenn_> Tomorrow I was tried and they tried to help me
[14:22] <glenn_> :(
[14:23] <module000> gartral: you'll need to pull the sources and compile it then. you wont' get support for that here, the licensing snafu with the mozilla artwork(the single reason iceweasel exists) isn't a problem with anyone but the TC in deb
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> gartral: arora maybe
[14:24] <gartral> i know there's a liscencing snafu, but read http://www.huffingtonpost.com/becky-hayes/mozillas-anti-gay-ceo-hast_b_5129335.html
[14:24] <gartral> that's the reason i'm dropping 'real' firefox for an alternative
[14:24] <module000> gartral: you realize iceweasel *is* firefox though, 100% identical codebase. someone has changed the icons and moniker, nothing else. you are still sending bug reports to the mozilla foudation for example if you click "report issue"
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> gartral: midori is light too
[14:25] <gartral> module000: yes, but it's a different mantainer.. and that's the sole reason for the switch
[14:26] <lleweldyn> hi there was anybody able to get flash working in midori
[14:26] <DarkAceXtreme> either my hosts file isn't working right, or I did something wrong
[14:26] <gr8> hi, I'm thinking about buying a new Google Nexus 10 with the goal of installing Ubuntu touch (or a different linux distribution, if exists) on it later. do you think Ubuntu will still support the Nexus 10 in a half year?
[14:27] <DarkAceXtreme> I added "127.0.0.1	www.google.com" to my hosts file, but I can still access google.com
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> lleweldyn: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=qRNdU9rVBIjkOpTkgPgO&url=http://itsfoss.com/fix-missing-flash-player-error-midori-quick-tip/&cd=1&ved=0CC0QFjAA&usg=AFQjCNGcNJ8O2r0K0BYd4OeDPyoJLT2WMQ
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> DarkAceXtreme: when did you last access it before changing the file?
[14:28] <lleweldyn> thanks you actionparsnip
[14:28] <DarkAceXtreme> google.com specifically, probably not for a couple of hours
[14:28] <DarkAceXtreme> but Google Chrome's probably constantly sending data to some Google site
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> lleweldyn: strange how it doesnt just use the normal folders the other ones use.
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> DarkAceXtreme: what is the TTL on the name resolution?
[14:30] <ice9> are there any differences between ubuntu desktop and server other than there is no GUI?
[14:30] <bekks> ice9: No.
[14:30] <k1l> ice9: no.
[14:31] <DarkAceXtreme> ActionParsnip: where do I find that?
[14:31] <gr8> not a joke question my friends; is the Nexus 10 a save choice?
[14:32] <odsent> how do you install tar.gz files
[14:32] <odsent> the software in them
[14:32] <k1l> gr8: is that a ubuntu suport question? for hardware offers better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:33] <DarkAceXtreme> ActionParsnip: so I should probably stop everything transmitting to google sites, if I want the hosts to take effect?
[14:33] <k1l> odsent: the tor page got an howto for their software: https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> DarkAceXtreme: dig the name. You will see the TTL. If the TTL is not expired it is using the cached resolution so you can put anything for that name in hosts but it won't be used until the TTL expires
[14:33] <gr8> k1l: c'mon I asked the full question just 5 minutes ago
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> DarkAceXtreme: basic DNS stuff.
[14:34] <odsent> kll: i did all those instructions but now i can't find the iron to start TOr
[14:34] <odsent> icon
[14:34] <k1l> gr8: for ubuntu touch better ask in #ubuntu-touch .
[14:34] <gartral> ok, after looking at midori, it won't do what I need, I need a non-branded 'firefox' browser that I can use, suggestions?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Gr8: http://phandroid.com/2014/01/13/ubuntu-touch-devices-2/
[14:35] <DarkAceXtreme> alright, thanks
[14:35] <bananapie>  have to call a command to reindex unity?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> gartral: all web browsers have a brand.....
[14:35] <Bladewolf> gartral: You need an "unbranded" Mozilla Firefox that you can use?
[14:35] <DarkAceXtreme> I'm not seeing any TTL in the dig, but I know what I want now, thanks
[14:35] <Bladewolf> All web browsers are branded
[14:36] <gartral> say also, in 13.10 ctrl-c/x/v doesn't work how do I fix that
[14:36] <Bladewolf> Mozilla is Firefox's brand (And the company that made it)
[14:36] <gartral> Bladewolf: exactly
[14:36] <odsent> help i installed Tor, now how do i start it
[14:36] <odsent> run it
[14:36] <gartral> Bladewolf: flash isn't working in midori or epiphany..
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> DarkAceXtreme: then until that TTL expires you are using the cached resolution.
[14:36] <Bladewolf> gartral: Then install Firefox
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> odsent: how did you install it?
[14:37] <Bladewolf> If that's what you need
[14:37] <odsent> using the commands at !tor
[14:37] <odsent> !tor
[14:37] <gartral> Bladewolf: i no longer consider firefox moraly compatible with my life.. see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/becky-hayes/mozillas-anti-gay-ceo-hast_b_5129335.html
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> odsent: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[14:38] <gr8> ActionParsnip: ah ok I guess that means 'no'
[14:38] <odsent> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> odsent: did you click the 'step 2' link on that page once tor was installed?
[14:39] <dartz_lu> Hello
[14:39] <gartral> i really don't want to compile a browser on a netbook... that's going to take 5 forevers
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Gr8: the guys in #ubuntu-touch wil be able to advise. Its not something I know of. All i did was search the web which anyone can do...
[14:40] <dartz_lu> I installed Lubuntu 12.04 on a spare 160 GB hdd, on a C2D machine with boot loader on the same hdd. I moved this HDD to another Pentium 4 PC and I can't get it to boot up, always get grub rescue with "symbol not found" errors
[14:40] <llutz> gartral: https://launchpad.net/~dirk-computer42/+archive/c42-backport?field.series_filter=trusty
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> gartral: i don understand your requirement. We have given lots of light web browsers...
[14:40] <Yerst> hey
[14:40] <Yerst> i just upgraded to 14.04
[14:41] <dartz_lu> Lubuntu 12.04, System Rescue CD and Super Grub Disk 2 fail to load properly
[14:41] <Yerst> i already installed the additional drivers
[14:41] <Yerst> but still all my windows lag
[14:41] <Yerst> when i drag them
[14:41] <Yerst> or when i switch the workspace
[14:41] <Yerst> haven't had this problem with 12.04
[14:41] <Yerst> anybody else got that problem?
[14:41] <gartral> ActionParsnip: my requirment is I need a non-firefox, firefox compatible browser
[14:41] <llutz> can we have the !enter factoid back, please ....
[14:42] <Bladewolf> gartral: Try Google Chrome
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> gartral: do you mean the same gecko engine?
[14:42] <Yerst> or does anybody know a solution
[14:42] <Bladewolf> Yerst: Got enough RAM/CPU ?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Yerst: what GPU do you use?
[14:43] <gartral> ActionParsnip: yes
[14:43] <Yerst> intel i7 870 (2.93GHz quad core)
[14:43] <Yerst> 8 GB RAM
[14:43] <Yerst> GTX 460
[14:43] <Bladewolf> O_O
[14:43] <junka> :OOOOOOOOOOOO
[14:43] <Bladewolf> That's more than me and I can run Ubuntu fine
[14:43] <Bladewolf> 14.04
[14:43] <Yerst> yeah
[14:43] <Yerst> i haven't had this problem with 12.04 too
[14:43] <gartral> Bladewolf: chrome is too heavy, I'm working on an older netbook here3
[14:43] <nezZario> I run ubuntu pretty decently on a celeron with 512mb of ram .. something is deeply wrong
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> gartral: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers click Graphical
[14:44] <Bladewolf> gartral: I don't know then
[14:44] <Yerst> i used the same drivers than last time
[14:44] <gartral> nezZario: who was that message for?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Yerst: is it a laptop?
[14:44] <nezZario> Yerst:
[14:44] <Yerst> no, a desktop pc
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Yerst: if youbrun: sudo lshw -C display
[14:45] <gartral> ActionParsnip: no duh.. but i'm really hoping not to have to compile the alternatives here
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Yerst: do you see an Intel GPU and an Nvidia GPU?
[14:45] <llutz> gartral: have you seen the link i gave you?
[14:45] <gartral> llutz: no, hang on
[14:45] <Yerst> nvidia gpu
[14:45] <Yerst> my gtx 460
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> gartral: those are the choices. I dont see why Midori doesnt tick all the boxes
[14:46] <nezZario> gartral: What's your specs again?  I mean once again, I run ubuntu with gnome on a celeron with 512mb ram and chrome is usable.  It's slow, but usable
[14:46] <Yerst> i have 2 monitors by the way
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Yerst: so no intel gpu?
[14:46] <Yerst> nope
[14:46] <Yerst> maybe that's a problem
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Yerst: in the lshw output do you see driver=nvidia
[14:46] <junka> nezZario, me too celeron 2gb ram :D
[14:47] <Yerst> dirver = nouveau
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Yerst: thats why then
[14:47] <gartral> llutz: how do I add that via terminal?
[14:47] <Yerst> ok
[14:48] <gartral> Software center crashes this system even after a fresh install
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Yerst: what is the output of: lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[14:48] <llutz> !ppa | gartral sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ppaname
[14:48] <Bladewolf> Lol
[14:48] <Yerst> nvidia-331-update
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> gartral: why is midori not filling the need?
[14:48] <Yerst> opencl stuff
[14:48] <Yerst> many nvidia stuff
[14:49] <Bladewolf> gartral: What about GNUIceCat
[14:49] <odsent> actionparsnip
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Yerst: use a pastebin
[14:49] <odsent> i got the tor browser bundle tar.gz
[14:49] <odsent> but i don't know how to install it
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Yerst: i asked for the output, not some description
[14:49] <gartral> ActionParsnip: because my 'client' (read; my mother) doesn
[14:49] <gartral> 't want to switch
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> gartral: for what reason?
[14:49] <Yerst> http://pastebin.com/MCXcbFeZ
[14:49] <Yerst> here you go
[14:49] <walidvb> is there a command that let's you monitor your video card input, such as watch /dev/video ?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> gartral: switch from what?
[14:50] <loa> is there way to run few commands in ubuntu desktop file
[14:50] <gartral> ActionParsnip: because she likesw the layout andplugins she had.. and I have a backup of them, so she doesn't want to switch browsers >.<
[14:50] <loa> i meen something like this Exec=ls -la; echo 1 > /dev/null
[14:51] <loa> is it possible?
[14:51] <gartral> ActionParsnip: firefox
[14:51] <loa> i need to run command before main application start
[14:51] <loa> it will setup my gamepad and application is steam.
[14:51] <odsent> how do you use the tor browzer bundle tar-1.xz
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> gartral: they will do the same job from a user perspective
[14:51] <trijntje> ubuntu server 14.04 32bit live usb keeps giving me the same error when checking the disk for defects. Is this a known bug in the iso that can be safely ignored?
[14:52] <hasek79> im running 13.10 should i update to 14.04?
[14:52] <penko> Hi, i have problems with google chrome ot my lubuntu
[14:52] <Yerst> i try to restart my pc again
[14:52] <odsent> it just has one file with an unidentified extension
[14:52] <Yerst> maybe that will help
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> odsent: right click -> extract
[14:52] <Yerst> by
[14:52] <gartral> llutz: appearently there's not an iceweasel for 13.10 in that repo
[14:52] <penko> from website i download stable_current_i386.deb
[14:52] <k1l> hasek79: some day you will have to. 13.10 only got 9 months support
[14:52] <gartral> llutz: wait, DUH
[14:52] <gartral> i'm blind
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> gartral: the same plugins can be installed in Midori
[14:52] <Bladewolf> gartral: LOL
[14:52] <nezZario> hasek79: afaik 13.10 is still supported so just keeping your 13.x install is sufficient for the moment but I would go ahead and get 14
[14:52] <penko> next i install it via gdebi, but it give me error and doesn`t start :(
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> gartral: plus as youbadd plugins etc the browser will bloat and slow down
[14:53] <llutz> gartral: i hope you've seen the  " ... WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk"
[14:53] <hasek79> will all my configs still work of will i have to go threw and config everything again?
[14:53] <odsent> it's a tar file
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> hasek79: 13.10 is eol in June. You may want to upgrade soon
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> odsent: you can still extract tars with right click menu...
[14:54] <gartral> ActionParsnip: no, not the Facebook, Twitter, or G+ plugins.. they all said "Incompatible browser, use Firefox" and in 12.04 they installed in Iceweasel just fine
[14:54] <nezZario> hasek79: especially consdering how easy it is to upgrade, .. why not?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> gartral: then you may have to suck it up and use firefox. Or get an agent switcher to make it fly
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> odsent: or install unp and use unp to extract the file in terminal
[14:55] <odsent> i extracted it, and it just gives one file called tor-browser-linux64-3.5.4_en-US.tar-1
[14:55] <Bladewolf> Doesn't Ubuntu come with GZIP?
[14:55] <odsent> which came from tor-browser-linux64-3.5.4_en-US.tar-1.xz
[14:55] <odsent> the first one can't be extracted
[14:56] <odsent> file roller
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> Bladewolf: yes but unp is a one command for all archives command
[14:56] <gartral> ActionParsnip: lemme use the iceweasel ppa first.. another issue is she had A LOT of tabs saved before the wipe/reoad of her netbook after a failed update that i had WARNED her not to take
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> odsent: use unp, its easier
[14:57] <nezZario> odsent: why aren't you using the version from Tor's repository?
[14:57] <Bladewolf> gartral: What was the update?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> Why use tor anyway
[14:58] <gartral> Bladewolf: a kernel update that she applied when she was tired, and I had warned her previously the /boot was full >.<
[14:58] <Bladewolf> ...What the hell was she thinking?
[14:59] <gartral> Bladewolf: she wasn't she was up for 32 hours and "Wanted the prompt out of her way"
[14:59] <Bladewolf> Lol
[14:59] <Bladewolf> She should have hit "Cancel"
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> gartral: make her account not be in the sudo group and add your own and add it to sudo. Install openssh-server and tell her you'll manage her updates
[15:00] <gartral> Bladewolf: well, it's ok because at that point she was on 12.04 and desperatly needed a wipe/reload, because I had originally installed 9.10 on this system and limped it along
[15:00] <Bladewolf> gartral: Lol
[15:00] <gartral> ActionParsnip: usually it's controlled by the sserver I run at home, this time she was so tired she screwed up
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> gartral: gotcha
[15:01] <gartral> ActionParsnip: don't ask me HOW she did it, she just did.. and trust me, I'm mad
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> gartral: is the system purely for web browsing?
[15:02] <gartral> ActionParsnip: no, it's her MAIN usage system, her alternative is a 14
[15:03] <gartral> 14+ year oldSell GX150 "thin client"
[15:03] <gartral> Dell*
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> gartral: ahh was going to suggest xpud ;>
[15:04] <gartral> ActionParsnip: yea, tried that, she *HATES* using the  terminal for anything
[15:04] <gartral> brb
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> gartral: ots not terminal based....
[15:05] <snuggles08> Is Ubuntu ARM soft float or hard float?
[15:06] <gartral> ActionParsnip: oh?
[15:06] <minitosh> snuggles08: armhf
[15:06] <snuggles08> Ok. I'm trying to mess with a Samsung Series 3 Chromebook.
[15:06] <gartral> ActionParsnip: i'll make a bookmark if you link it
[15:07] <trijntje> ubuntu server 14.04 32bit live usb keeps giving me the same error when checking the disk for defects. Is this a known bug in the iso that can be safely ignored?
[15:08] <guest-gnKD4t_> sammy
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> Gartral: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=xpud
[15:08] <gartral> trijntje: have you tried the 64-bit version?
[15:08] <guest-gnKD4t_> help
[15:08] <trijntje> gartral: no, I need to install on an old old laptop, so it won't run 64 bit
[15:08] <trijntje> !help
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> trijntje: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[15:09] <gartral> trijntje: Pentium 3?
[15:09] <trijntje> ActionParsnip: yes, it checks out. I've also tried using both unetbootin and usb-creator, AND two different usb drives
[15:09] <Node_753> hello
[15:10] <gartral> trijntje: is it a P4 or older?
[15:10] <trijntje> gartral: I'm not sure actually, I just figured it'd be safer to use 32bit on such an old machine
[15:11] <gartral> trijntje: do you have a system model number? (such as Dell optilext 450)
[15:13] <trijntje> gartral: http://reviewlaptopnetbook.blogspot.nl/2013/02/netbook-acer-aspire-one-n214.html
[15:13] <gartral> optiplex 450*
[15:14] <gartral> trijntje: try the 64-bit version my mom's netbook is an AOD 250
[15:14] <gartral> and it runs the 64-bit version fine
[15:15]  * gartral is drunk, but not stupified
[15:16] <snuggles08> I'm trying to follow a guide for debian on Ubuntu. So far it's working pretty good, I just need a update-alternatives alternative.
[15:17] <Bladewolf> For ****'s sake, Windows....
[15:17] <gartral> snuggles08: you wont get support for that here, or anywhere..that's a wierd set up
[15:17] <Bladewolf> I know...
[15:17] <gartral> i'll be back later
[15:17] <Bladewolf> Cya
[15:17] <snuggles08> I'm trying to install JDK 7 for ARM.
[15:18] <Bladewolf> Lol
[15:18] <minimec> snuggles08: Could you give me the link to that 'guide'?
[15:18] <Bladewolf> Gtg cya guys
[15:18] <gartral> also that PPA wrked, thanks
[15:20] <snuggles08> http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-Minecraft-Server/
[15:20] <ryan99> helo
[15:20] <ryan99> does ubutnu come wit hacker tolls
[15:21] <llutz> ryan99: yes,
[15:21] <minimec> snuggles08: Ok. And what is the task you would need 'update-altarnatives' for and why can't you use it?
[15:21] <ryan99> greet
[15:21] <ryan99> great
[15:21] <ryan99> i need hacker fbi computer
[15:21] <bazhang> ryan99, wrong network
[15:21] <snuggles08> Because it... *facepalm*
[15:21] <willwh> rofl
[15:21] <llutz> good luck troll
[15:22] <willwh> ryan99: http://www.kali.org/
[15:22] <ryan99> tools good in ubuntu ?
[15:22] <willwh> but if you are asking questions like that
[15:22] <willwh> you are already WAY out of your depth
[15:22] <willwh> good luck
[15:22] <ryan99> look its easy
[15:22] <willwh> lol
[15:22] <k1l> ryan99: we dont support "hacking" or warez in here. keep it to legal support questions. thanks
[15:23] <Guest49830> how to move /boot partition to SD card? so my full disk encrypted ubuntu won't work w/o that SD card
[15:23] <ryan99> press start....type cmd w/o qutoation then type ping fbi.gov
[15:23] <ryan99> its a distrubed dos
[15:23] <ryan99> disturbed dos
[15:23] <IdleOne> ryan99: We do not help with committing illegal activities. Please stop with this topic now.
[15:23] <willwh> thanks k1l
[15:23] <willwh> a distrubed dos
[15:23] <Guest49830> guys help please
[15:23] <willwh> awesome
[15:24] <Guest49830> How to move /boot partition to SD card? so my full disk encrypted ubuntu won't work w/o that SD card
[15:24] <willwh> dd
[15:24] <Guest49830> What exactly should I do ?
[15:24] <Jikan> Hi! As my Gnome Control Center is almost empty (I only have Language/Printers/Software updates), is there a) a way to get all the normal stuff back and/or b) somewhere to find the list of all corresponding commands to use in a terminal?
[15:24] <trijntje> Guest49830: do it during install, less chance of breaking things
[15:24] <Guest49830> It's not possible to do it during instal
[15:25] <Guest49830> Because when I choose FDE it installs itself
[15:27] <willwh> Guest49830: you could take a look at this: http://xbmcnut.blogspot.ca/2013/05/how-to-move-your-boot-partition-to-usb.html
[15:27] <Tetracomm> Hello
[15:27] <Guest49830> Thanx! i ll chek
[15:27] <Guest49830> check
[15:28] <Tetracomm> When I right click Eclipse and check the 'Allow executing file as a program' box, it automatically unchecks it right after, even when I do it as root. I can't run the program because of this. Do you know why?
[15:28] <snuggles08> How do I uninstall OpenJDK runtime environment?
[15:29] <willwh> Tetracomm: have you run it from a terminal?
[15:30] <minimec> snuggles08: 'sudo apt-get purge default-jdk default-jre' should do.
[15:30] <basketball> is there a terminal code to generate a new mac address and apply it
[15:30] <Abel> Hello, anyone knows how can I add more resolutions to the virtual box with ubuntu 14?
[15:31] <cfhowlett> Abel ask in #vbox
[15:31] <snuggles08> Didn't work.
[15:32] <narcos> Hi all. Could anyone recommend a tutorial for setting up an IRC server on Ubuntu with SSL enforced (compulsory) and a password req'd to connect ?
[15:32] <narcos> I see lots of conflicting articles
[15:32] <minimec> snuggles08: check what packages are installed with this 'dpkg -l *jdk* | grep ii' and uninstall the packages afterwards.
[15:32] <Abel> thank you cfhowlett :)
[15:34] <Tetracomm> willwh: Yes.
[15:36] <LKBM> I'm on 12.04 and update-manager (with or without -d) seems to think 13.10 is the newest version. How do I make it realize 14.04 is available?
[15:36] <LKBM> Sorry, I'm on 12.10.
[15:37] <bekks> LKBM: you have to update to 13.04, then 13.10, then 14.04
[15:37] <bekks> LKBM: and 13.04 is EOL.
[15:37] <LKBM> Really? I thought with LTS I could skip. Oh well.
[15:37] <bekks> LKBM: 12.10 isnt LTS.
[15:38] <cfhowlett> LKBM you can update directly to 14.04 from 12.04
[15:38] <cfhowlett> LKBM but you have to wait until the point release 14.04.1 comes out in July
[15:39] <theuns> Anyone know what version of Qt library is ship with 14.04?
[15:39] <LKBM> Okay. I'm actually coming from 11.04 and I've already had fun fixing grub. I was just hoping to skip a few more intermediate steps :-)
[15:40] <cfhowlett> LKBM you can always download the 14.04 ISO and do a regular installation
[15:40] <Tetracomm> willwh: Do you mean chmod +x eclipse? Yes.
[15:40] <willwh> Tetracomm: no I meant actually launch it from the terminal
[15:40] <LKBM> cfhowlett, will that screw with all my settings and installed stuff? I mean, more than a regular upgrade?
[15:40] <willwh> Tetracomm: why are you worried about clicking on a button?
[15:41] <Guest999999> I don't have permission to put a file in a certain folder, (Probably because it is in a "usr" subfolder) is there any way to force a file into a folder?
[15:41] <trijntje> gartral: can't boot 64bit on my netbook
[15:41] <willwh> guest; sudo mv /your/file /usr/whatever/path
[15:41] <cfhowlett> !home|LKBM set your /home to its own partition will keep data and settings.
[15:42] <trijntje> I'm trying to install ubuntu server 32bit, but every usb I create is corrupted according to 'check cd for defects'. Is this a known issue with the trusty server images?
[15:42] <willwh> trijntje: why 32bit server?
[15:42] <willwh> I thought 14.04 was ONLY 64bit for server edition now
[15:42] <trijntje> willwh: because the hardware doesn't support 32-bit
[15:42] <trijntje> *64 bit
[15:43] <LKBM> cfhowlett, ubottu: But all of /etc will be gone, I assume. All the settings for apache, privoxy, etc.
[15:43] <jhutchins> trijntje: What are you using to create the drive?
[15:44] <trijntje> jhutchins: usb-creator or unetbootin, each consisently reports a file to be corrupted, though the file differs between using unetbootin and usb-creator
[15:44] <jhutchins> trijntje: Try just using dd, cat, or cp.
[15:45] <willwh> LKBM: yep, but you should have those backed up somewhere surely? :)
[15:45] <jhutchins> trijntje: copy to the un-mounted root device, then check the md5sum.
[15:45] <willwh> otherwise what would yuo do in the event of system or disk faliure?
[15:45] <jhutchins> trijntje: Sometimes the check will fail because the drive is a different size than the image is.
[15:45] <cfhowlett> LKBM wait until point-release and upgrade away
[15:46] <LKBM> cfhowlett: I guess I'll do that. Thanks. (Also thanks willwh, ubottu, and bekks)
[15:46] <cumana> hello
[15:46] <thomson28> does anyone know how to get the recycle bin on the desktop?
[15:47] <trijntje> jhutchins: you cant just copy the iso to the usb and boot from it can you?
[15:47] <cumana> where does this damn update-initramfs store information about newest kernel? I've removed image of new kernel from /boot/ (it was compiled) and it still tries to use this version
[15:49] <jhutchins> trijntje: Yes, but again, to the unmounted root device, not to a mounted partition.
[15:49] <jhutchins> trijntje: /dev/sr0, not /media/usb0
[15:50] <trijntje> jhutchins: ok, I've now used dd to write the iso to the usb, and now the check completes without error. Thanks for the tip, at least now I can get going with my server!
[15:50] <Guest999999> I tried to move the file with commands, but it is telling me my downloads directory doesn't exist.. what's the file path for downloads?
[15:51] <willwh> Guest999999: ~/Downloads
[15:51] <willwh> i.e. ~/ is a shortcut for your home directory
[15:51] <jhutchins> trijntje: Good luck!
[15:52] <m000gle> Hey!  I'm looking for a bit of guidance theming my Ubuntu 14.04 desktop, if anyone can help.
[15:52] <m000gle> I'm hoping to replace the default Ubuntu orange folder icons with those used in the (already installed) Moka theme. is there any way to do this while retaining the default icons for all other apps?
[15:52] <Nuc1eoN> Hi, can anybody explain to me what the firmware in the linux kernel is? Does it flash a different firmware onto my device e.g. a graphics card
[15:52] <clue_h> or ~ on its own.
[15:54] <Guest999999> Thanks! "~/Downloads" worked!
[15:55] <genesis777> Hello.
[15:55] <genesis777> I have Ubuntu installation with Full Disk Encryption.
[15:55] <genesis777> I'd like to move /boot partition to an USB flash stick or SD card.
[15:55] <genesis777> I've googled that, but didn't find anything related.
[15:55] <genesis777> Does anyone know how could I do that?
[15:55] <Guest_903>  "I have been jailbroke on my ipod touch 3rd generation ios 5.1.1 absinthe or green poison jailbreak for a couple weeks now and decided to get touchposé+ so it worked for the rest of that day so ok and then I shut it off for the night you now and then when I tried turning on in the morning at first I eont wouldn't let me touch the screen like I was touching thw screen but nothing was happening so then when I decided to wait a litt
[15:56] <genesis777> I have to leave the house and I'll be back in an hour or so. If one has to say something please IM me.
[15:57] <genesis777> I will check
[15:57] <jhutchins> genesis777: Pretty simple really, boot to some other media, copy the file tree from /boot, if desired remove the one from the disk, point grub at the new device.
[15:57] <jhutchins> !touch
[16:03] <xtbman> When I try to install ubuntu server from a usb stick, it sets the usb drive as sda and my hard drive as sdb. The problem is when I get to installing grub, it complains that there is no dev/sda. How can I manually tell it to name the hard drive sda instead?
[16:05] <CarlFK> xtbman: pretty sure you want to install to sdb
[16:05] <holstein> xtbman: try referring to them as uuid
[16:06] <xtbman> CarlFK, my problem is that grub gives me a fatal error saying can't install to dev/sda.
[16:06] <xtbman> holstein hmm ok
[16:06] <SwashBuckla> Brasero is returning the following error log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7346161/
[16:06] <CarlFK> xtbman: even when you tell it hdb?
[16:06] <xtbman> CarlFK, you mean tell it to Grub?
[16:06] <holstein> xtbman: grub should just refer as uuid.. you'll install to what you want, and the labes get worked out
[16:07] <CarlFK> xtbman: "How can I manually tell it to name the hard drive sda instead?"  <- use sdb
[16:07] <xtbman> Grub doesn't give me any options, the installer just asks if I want to install to the master loader or not. I say yes, and then it tries to install.
[16:07] <SwashBuckla> CarlFK. xtbman, sdb may also be occupied
[16:07] <llutz> xtbman:  " install to the master loader or not" IS the choice, say NO and then pick sdb
[16:07] <CarlFK> xtbman: ah.  I thought it gave you some options.  never mind.
[16:07] <SwashBuckla> be careful
[16:07] <zettabytes> is there a way yo upgrade from 8.04 jaunty to 12.04 precise using terminal by force?
[16:08] <xtbman> llutz: ok I'll try that, one moment.
[16:08] <holstein> xtbman: you can just not install grub, and do that after install
[16:09] <holstein> xtbman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair for example, post install
[16:09] <xtbman> holstein: ok thanks I'll bookmark that
[16:10] <zettabytes> is it possible if i change the repo in sources.list then update && upgrade? can it be done?
[16:10] <CarlFK> inkscape uses alt-mouse drag to resize an object and keep the aspect ratio.  the wm uses alt-mouse to move the window.  is there some way to make that not happen so inkscape can get it?
[16:10] <llutz> zettabytes: it can and most likely it will trash your installation
[16:12] <llutz> zettabytes: and btw, you want to use dist-upgrade, not upgrade
[16:12] <thomson28> does anyone know how to get the recycle bin on the desktop?
[16:13] <JayS> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso doesnt work
[16:13] <holstein> JayS: elaboarate, please
[16:14] <zettabytes> llutz: i'll give a try
[16:14] <zettabytes> thanks mate
[16:21] <laurent_> exit
[16:21] <AceTrips> JayS: It works fine here (prompts for download, at least..) What's wrong your end?
[16:21] <Castaneda> Hello
[16:21] <Guest_903>  "iPhone 4 hardly stucked in SOFT DFU mode"
[16:21] <Castaneda> Can I ask something?
[16:22] <esperegu> I created one dkms.conf for 2 source packages. When I run dkms build it does not copy all the files from the source dir to the build dir. anybody knows how I can get dkms to copy all the files required?
[16:22] <Castaneda> How can I see whether the tcp-wrappers library libwrap is compiled into an application?
[16:25] <llutz> Castaneda: ldd app
[16:25] <linuxuser1000> hello
[16:25] <Guest_903>  "why here said me no?"
[16:26] <linuxuser1000> so i'm back and now i'm getting wierd mouse freezes
[16:26] <linuxuser1000> is there any fix?
[16:26] <k1l> Guest_903: do ou have a ubuntu support question?
[16:26] <holstein> linuxuser1000: i test with live CD"s or supported operatin systems to see if the hardware is funcitonal.. then, i try other user accounts, and looking for and applying all upgrades
[16:27] <linuxuser1000> my screen freezes and i have to go to a tty to fix it
[16:27] <linuxuser1000> the rest works
[16:27] <linuxuser1000> even optimus and that stuff
[16:27] <holstein> linuxuser1000: as another user account, you can rule out your users config.. as the live CD, you can rule out your installed operating system
[16:28] <holstein> linuxuser1000: you can try using the open driver vs the proprietary driver for graphics.. remove any PPA's.. try the xorg edgers PPA
[16:28] <holstein> linuxuser1000: its just going to be a matter of tracking it down
[16:28] <linuxuser1000> i am using xorg edgers right now
[16:29] <linuxuser1000> on nvidia 334.21
[16:29] <holstein> linuxuser1000: so, you can try the repo version, or ask the maintainers of the software you are using for support, after you determine the driver is or is not the cause
[16:29] <teward|pc> what's the command to update 12.04 desktop to 14.04 desktop directly, since that's LTS-to-LTS?
[16:31] <llutz> teward|pc: sudo do-release-upgrade --devel-release
[16:31] <holstein> teward|pc: it will be opened up automatially when 14.04.1 releases
[16:32] <Castaneda> I did the ldd command! Is there's a path where I can see the library?
[16:32] <llutz> Castaneda: ldd gives you the pathes
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> teward: or wait for 14.04.1 and it will be offered
[16:33] <teward|pc> ActionParsnip: when's .1 supposed to come out
[16:33]  * teward|pc doesn't have the timetable for the 14.04 releases on his phone
[16:34] <k1l> 27th july
[16:34] <teward|pc> and in fact i can't even reach the wiki while running off my phone's data (i'm in its wifi hotspot)
[16:34] <k1l> (iirc)
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> teward: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[16:34] <teward|pc> ActionParsnip: thanks,
[16:34] <xtbman> llutz: saying no to master boot loader worked. Thanks
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> teward: all i did was websearch.....
[16:34] <teward|pc> ActionParsnip: i'm being lazy today :p
[16:35] <teward|pc> besides, after just uploading 5 nginx packages to the nginx team's stable PPA... I need to stop staring at the computer :p
[16:35] <john38> Can somebody tell me what directory..Path? does Firefox store all my bookmarks
[16:35] <reisio> john38: ~/.mozilla/
[16:35] <reisio> john38: why do you ask
[16:36] <reisio> teward|pc: quitter :p
[16:36] <john38> reisio, im doing reinstallation and i want to backup all sites i've visited
[16:36] <vitaly> You can use Firefox Sync
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> john38: just backup the ~/.mozilla and you'll win
[16:37] <john38> reisio, where do i go exactly ....usr/bin....var/..usr/share??
[16:37] <reisio> john38: yes, you can just backup the dir as ActionParsnip says, for the entire profile/s
[16:37] <reisio> or open firefox and export as html
[16:37] <ppk90> hello there!
[16:37] <Guest_903>  "i had my i pod touch jail broken but i removed the jailbreak for some reason"
[16:37] <reisio> john38: '~/.mozilla' is a complete path that your shell will understand
[16:37] <reisio> john38: the absolute version would be /home/yourUser/.mozilla
[16:37] <reisio> if you've already backed up /home/yourUser/, you already have it
[16:37] <gnumdk> Who knows why Ubuntu 14.04 reconnect to WIFI after suspend is so fast?
[16:37] <john38> reisio, ok thnks
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> john38: also backs up thunderbird if its used
[16:38] <reisio> Guest_903: gj
[16:38] <reisio> normally all the things you actually care about will be in /home/
[16:38] <reisio> when you get into server stuff that can change slightly
[16:39] <odsent> test
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> !test | odsent
[16:39] <Bladewolf> Lol
[16:39] <john38> reisio, is it in the bookmarksbackup folder
[16:42] <reisio> john38: they're not in easily read format in that directory, but they _are_ there
[16:42] <reisio> john38: if you want an easily read format, then open firefox and export as html before you backup/reinstall
[16:42] <reisio> john38: otherwise you can copy the entire directory into a _new_ firefox install's ~/.mozilla, and they will simply be there
[16:43] <reisio> not in an easily*
[16:43] <Castaneda> thanks for the help!!!
[16:43] <Castaneda> cheers!
[16:44] <john38> reisio, but they are the files with the .json extension right???
[16:45] <john38> reisio, i have alot of bookmarks but their are only 10 .json files
[16:46] <reisio> john38: I don't recall, as I said it's not in any easily readable format in there anymore
[16:46] <reisio> the Mozilla devs in all their wisdom decided human readable files were incorrect
[16:47] <reisio> it makes it easier for the idiotic "awesome" bar to query your bookmarks as a database
[16:47] <xtbman> Is it ok to ask Ubuntu Server questions here?
[16:47] <xtbman> Or is there a better channel
[16:47] <someHuman> How do I default grub2 boot menu to be my default boot manager instead of Windows'?
[16:47] <reisio> depends on the queestion
[16:47] <Chewy64> Hey folks, I got a bit of an odd issue. I have some 290Xs that I'm trying to use to render. I have the drivers installed, and fglrx. I can report all the information using aticonfig (temps, clocks) etc for them, but they refuse to do anything (Such as render, output to a display, etc)
[16:48] <reisio> but there _is_ a channel just for server questions
[16:48] <reisio> -> /msg alis list *ubun*serv*
[16:48] <owen1> how to tell firefox to stop showing me popups asking me to install something that will give me extra features? it happens on many websites and i feel it's related to ubuntu or unity.
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> xtbman: sure, there is also #ubuntu-server
[16:48] <xtbman> ok thanks
[16:48] <reisio> owen1: screenshot?
[16:48] <owen1> reisio: it only shows up for 5 seconds.  i'll try to take on next time.
[16:48] <reisio> Chewy64: what's a 290X?
[16:48] <owen1> reisio: on gmail, launchpad, and other sites
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> someHuman: install Grub to the MBR of the drive. I assume you havent used Wubi
[16:49] <Chewy64> reisio, It's a GPU, Radeon R9 290X reference.
[16:49] <reisio> owen1: mmm... anything firefox would ask would remain until you told it to go away
[16:49] <xtbman> I installed Ubuntu server, setting up my wireless connection. It said that the connection succeeded. Now that server is installed, and I'm at the command line, it says the network is down. Ping returns unknown host.
[16:49] <owen1> i always so 'no'
[16:49] <someHuman> ActionParsnip: Yup I haven't.
[16:49] <john38> reisio, how do i export bookmarks in precise pangolin??
[16:49] <owen1> but they keep coming
[16:49] <someHuman> ActionParsnip: How do I do that?
[16:49] <reisio> Chewy64: what command is refused, exactly?
[16:49] <reisio> john38: I already told you...
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> xtbman: can you ping your router's internal IP
[16:50] <reisio> john38: you can either backup the directory, or open firefox, Bookmarks > Import and Backup > Export Bookmarks to HTML
[16:50] <owen1> reisio: i am guessing it's some shortcut for unity. i have ubuntu installed but i login to i3 session, so i don't care about unity shortcuts.
[16:50] <reisio> owen1: if you're using i3, unity isn't running
[16:50] <reisio> unless you're using i3 with Unity, anyways :p
[16:50] <reisio> which you'd probably be aware of
[16:50] <Chewy64> reisio, Refused? Nothing. They just won;t work, period. I can;t attach a monitor to them, and I can't use the GPU to render cad models, etc. Everything I can see says the card is functioning though.
[16:51] <xtbman> ActionParsnip: no, it says connect: network unreachable
[16:51] <owen1> reisio: right. so maybe it's firefox with ubuntu? i don't know
[16:51] <reisio> owen1: pretty hard to say without a visual example :)
[16:52] <reisio> Chewy64: what all graphics devices are available?
[16:52] <owen1> reisio: i know. i'll try to catch them. i'll have 'scrot -d 3' ready (:
[16:52] <orbisvicis> when upgrading mysql databases does ubuntu automatically run mysql_upgrade ?
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Chewy64: which ati gpu is it?
[16:52] <reisio> orbisvicis: I certainly hope not, but that is easily tested
[16:52] <Chewy64> reisio, Not sure what you mean by that.
[16:52] <Chewy64> ActionParsnip, R9 290X.
[16:53] <john38> reisio, ok thnks reisio
[16:53] <reisio> Chewy64: please enumerate all the graphics devices attached to the mobo
[16:54] <orbisvicis> reisio: I accidentally went from 5.0 -> 5.5, now I've downgraded to 5.1 to run mysql_upgrade, except that some tables are now using the PERSCHEMA storage engine which is only available in mysql >= 5.5
[16:54] <orbisvicis> *PERFSCHEMA
[16:54] <Chewy64> reisio, 0=Saphhire 7950, 1=Saphhire 7950, 2=R9 290X, 3=R9 290X
[16:59] <reisio> orbisvicis: well, lesson learned
[16:59] <xtbman> I checked my /etc/resolv.conf, and it only has two commented lines.. nothing else. I'm guessing that's a problem.
[17:00] <Chewy64> reisio, You catch that?
[17:00] <reisio> Chewy64: yeah
[17:00] <reisio> Chewy64: and you want to use all these simultaneously?
[17:01] <Chewy64> reisio, Yes, and I need to be able to hardware monitor them sue to the fact that the 290Xs are throttled via tempertature. They are on a render farm.
[17:01] <Chewy64> in a render*
[17:02] <reisio> okay, and how are you attempting to utilize one?
[17:03] <Chewy64> reisio, How do you mean? How am I attempting to use all of them at the same time? The render software does that. You can enable/disable any of the GPUs, and it'll dole out work accordingly.
[17:03] <reisio> no... I said 'utilize _one_'
[17:04] <Chewy64> Errr...... ?
[17:04] <Chewy64> I'm not following. Sorry.
[17:05] <dafedz> Hello
[17:05] <reisio> okay I'll explain debugging to you
[17:05] <reisio> when debugging, you start small
[17:05] <reisio> you pick one thing, and make sure it works
[17:05] <reisio> then you add on more things until you get to your end goal
[17:05] <Chewy64> Oh, well yeah.
[17:05] <dafedz> reisio is spot on
[17:05] <reisio> so when I ask how you're trying to utilize _one_, that's what I mean
[17:05] <Chewy64> reisio, The one monitor is tied to the monitor, and in PCIe0, so it just works out the gate.
[17:06] <Chewy64> The one GPU is tied*
[17:06] <reisio> Chewy64: the one 290x?
[17:06] <Chewy64> It's a 7950.
[17:06] <tonsofpcs> where are service scripts contained?  (I have software that I manually built and installed on a new machine since it was pulled from ubuntu repos, I have the service scripts on an older machine, I just want to migrate and update them as necessary)
[17:06] <reisio> so "no" is the answer to my question
[17:06] <reisio> how about the ones that aren't working
[17:06] <reisio> how have you attempted to utilize one of them
[17:06] <teward|pc> tonsofpcs: if by 'service' scripts you mean scripts that run from `sudo service SOMETHING start` or such, check /etc/init.d/
[17:07] <teward|pc> tonsofpcs: if you mean some other scripts, that'll depend on the software and you need to look through what got installed.
[17:07] <Chewy64> reisio, I can't use any single GPU unless it is in PCIe0. So when I attempt to use one, and only one, I have to plug it into PCIe0.
[17:07] <tonsofpcs> teward|pc: that's them, yes.  I didn't realize it still just called init.d scripts.  I can do that ;)
[17:07] <reisio> Chewy64: and that's your problem, you want them to work outside of PCIe0?
[17:07] <dafedz> I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this but I'm wondering what the compatability issues are like with the Lenovo T430 series with Ubuntu/Xubuntu
[17:08] <reisio> dafedz: likely 100% supported, but the static internet would know
[17:08] <dafedz> oh thanks for that reisio
[17:08] <dafedz> I was just hoping some hardcore nerds would be able to provide some insight on here as well with regards to performance
[17:09] <Chewy64> reisio, I want them all to work, at the same time. Which accordingly, I can read the temps, clocks, etc of all four cards using aticonfig. They just can't actually do anything (IE, if I plug a monitor into a card not plugged into PCIe0, it doesn;t display anything. I can't select them in the render program to render with, etc.)
[17:09] <reisio> dafedz: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ http://linux-laptop.net/ https://www.google.com/search?q=%22yourmodel%22+site:ubuntuforums.org
[17:09] <reisio> Chewy64: yes you said many times
[17:09] <reisio> Chewy64: first you need to get one of them to work at all
[17:09] <dafedz> cheers reisio
[17:09] <reisio> Chewy64: so please explain how you have attempted to do that so far
[17:09] <penko> hi, i think that i install flash player but in fact there isn`t flash :(   what to do now?
[17:10] <reisio> penko: how do you think you installed it?
[17:10] <penko> i copy libflashplayer.so to /home/penko./mozilla/plugins
[17:10] <penko> also to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[17:10] <reisio> penko: that is the wrong way
[17:10] <reisio> penko: you should undo all of that
[17:10] <penko> firefox****
[17:11] <reisio> penko: once you've undone what you did, follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[17:11] <penko> rm /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/lib***.so?
[17:11] <Chewy64> reisio, By running aticonfig --initial --adapter=all -f (Which is what allows me to read all cards info) I know very, very, little about grpahics related shit, so my knowledge kind of ends there. I have tried several driver and kernel versions as well.
[17:11] <tonsofpcs> teward|pc: cheers :)
[17:11] <reisio> penko: whatever it is you did
[17:11] <penko> thank you. i`ll do it and try
[17:12] <teward|pc> tonsofpcs: you're welcome.  :)
[17:12] <penko> i try this before copy files but no luck
[17:13] <penko> i also perform apt-get install flash-plugin-installer
[17:13] <penko> but no flash
[17:15] <k1l> penko: use pepperflashplugin-nonfree on 14.04
[17:15] <Chewy64> reisio, Sorry I'm not much help here. I haven't use linux for long, and am just heading down this road because the render software stopped building Windows servers.
[17:16] <abhinavmehta> is there any irc client, which I can run on CLI(server) and which store all chat text in some file, which could be retrived lateron
[17:16] <reisio> Chewy64: what's the software?
[17:16] <reisio> abhinavmehta: irssi, with logging enabled
[17:16] <reisio> abhinavmehta: http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup#c8
[17:17] <abhinavmehta> reisio: TY, helpful! :)
[17:17] <Yurij> кто нибуть знает как настроить qemu для эмуляции arm?
[17:17] <k1l> !ru | Yurij
[17:17] <Chewy64> reisio, The server is called PhotoView Render Server. It's for Dassault programs, no idea who actualyl writes the software (We buy it through the dassault VAR)
[17:18] <reisio> Yurij: dpkg -L qemu | grep -i bin | grep -i arm
[17:18] <reisio> Chewy64: yikes, dassault, so it's crazy expensive :p
[17:18] <Bladewolf> ubottu: What the hell was that, that you posted?
[17:18] <reisio> Chewy64: and it says it doesn't detect your gpus?
[17:19] <Chewy64> reisio, I'm disinclined to believe it's the program, as nothing else works either. Not monitor output, not stress test will run on them, etc.
[17:19] <reisio> Bladewolf: "hello comrade, we are having a grand party in #ubuntu-ru"
[17:19] <DoomBoom> ubottu is cute
[17:19] <Bladewolf> reisio: Thanks (If that really IS what you posted)
[17:19] <Bladewolf> s/"what you posted"/"what it posted"
[17:20] <Chewy64> reisio, They don;t show up in the render server, yes. Nor do they show up when attempting to run stress test, etc.
[17:21] <reisio> Chewy64: okay, you said you installed fglrx driver?
[17:21] <Chewy64> reisio, Sure did.
[17:21] <gulag2014>  I'm attempting to tar the /etc/ directory. I'm getting permission denies. Is there an easy way to segregate only the files in a directory that have different ownership permissions?
[17:22] <Neo31> Hello folks, I am trying to install teamviewer on ubuntu 14.04 64 bit and i get some dependencies errors, any help please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7346656/
[17:22] <reisio> Chewy64: and you made yourself a xorg.conf?
[17:22] <gulag2014> Teamviewer works with the 32 bit version of the .deb I believe.
[17:22] <reisio> Neo31: just use the tarball from teamviewer.com
[17:23] <reisio> gulag2014: using 'find'
[17:23] <aquaguy> Hello, I'm trying to use dnotify to execute a .sh script when a change happens inside a folder (file modified, created...) but my 14.04 machine says unknown command. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man1/dnotify.1.html
[17:23] <aquaguy> What package should I install in order to use it? Or should I use other command / tool instead?
[17:24] <Neo31> reisio: do you mean i should compile it ?
[17:24] <reisio> aquaguy: ask apt-file
[17:24] <reisio> Neo31: no, you just download, extract, and run it
[17:24] <reisio> ordinarily I would say that is the wrong way to do it, but teamviewer is a win32 application that runs via Wine, and people seem to have quite a lot of trouble installing it the normal way
[17:25] <penko> did i need to remove    /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/libflashplayer.so,/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so,/home/penko/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[17:25] <reisio> penko: if you put those there personally, yes
[17:25] <penko> also did i need to unistall gnash?
[17:25] <penko> yes. i manual copy flash to this locations
[17:25] <Neo31> i am trying your solution reisio
[17:25] <gulag2014> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/12/install-teamviewer-ubuntu-1404/
[17:26] <scottsdesk> Hello, Need help with installation of Ubuntu on ASUS x73be laptop... pretty advanced and been running it on this but have some technical issuse to ask about
[17:26] <veryhappy> hey guys, i figured out why my minimal ubuntu installation doesn't go forward... the net-retriever doesn't seem to find the packages, now i tried to choose the manual mirror and edit the path, looked good actually except for the fact that it didn't proceed anyway, there was just no error on tty4 saying that the certificate or whatever looked good, what can i do? i want to use a minimal...
[17:26] <veryhappy> ...environment that i can set up to fit my needs, any idea?
[17:26] <penko> and when i install pepperflash did i need to do something?
[17:26] <reisio> penko: you won't need gnash, so you may as well uninstall it
[17:26] <Chewy64> reisio, Yes. I can pastebin it if you'd like.
[17:26] <trism> aquaguy: dnotify was deleted in oneiric, you'll probably want to use inotify-tools now
[17:26] <reisio> penko: you don't need pepperflash either, AFAIK
[17:26] <reisio> but I'm not familiar with 14.x specific issues
[17:27] <aquaguy> trism: thanks
[17:27] <ironside> Whats up fellas ?
[17:27] <veryhappy> ironside: a lot :D
[17:27] <yellabs-r2> hi there ,
[17:27] <ironside> I thought the irc chats are dead
[17:28] <reisio> nawp
[17:28] <reisio> each IRC server does die over time, though, that's natural
[17:28] <reisio> new ones replace them
[17:28] <ironside> nice
[17:28] <yellabs-r2> ubuntu 14.04 with update of firefox - kills firefox and it crashes ( does not show up anymore ) cant trace  crash report..
[17:28] <Chewy64> reisio, www.pastebin.com/zfmRerzG
[17:29] <Neo31> reisio: could not load tvwine.dll.so library
[17:29] <Neo31> any idea ?
[17:29] <reisio> Chewy64: but X uses the sapphire instead?
[17:29] <reisio> Neo31: what says that?
[17:29] <penko> reisio, but earlier you told me to install pepperflash...
[17:29] <reisio> penko: nope, that was someone in the peanut gallery
[17:29] <someHuman> Hello, how do I make grub2 my default OS boot manager rather Windows'?
[17:30] <Chewy64> reisio, The Sapphire is in PCIe0, so yeah it uses it output to display.
[17:30] <reisio> someHuman: is it not now?
[17:30] <Randy_O> anyone ge tthe error  ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host when trying to run an app from QT Creator onto a device
[17:30] <reisio> Chewy64: oohhhh, right right, then you don't even need a xorg.conf for the ati cards :p
[17:30] <Chewy64> reisio, I only have one monitor (And not a real monitor, a KVM) tied to the rig.
[17:30] <reisio> okay
[17:30] <someHuman> reisio: Nope, I have to go to change boot options just to boot into Ubuntu.
[17:30] <reisio> someHuman: you have to what?
[17:30] <someHuman> reisio: Windows 8.1 Pro loads if I don't press anything.
[17:30] <penko> yes. my mistake
[17:30] <penko> ok. i remove files. what to do now?
[17:31] <someHuman> reisio: Press F9, I am using HP.
[17:31] <R2--D2> hi guys i made a bootable 14.04 cd with unetbootin ...Now i want to keep my configurations and apps while i transition to it from ubuntu 12.04 ... how shoudl i go about it?
[17:31] <reisio> penko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[17:31] <reisio> someHuman: ah
[17:31] <reisio> someHuman: to what, choose a different _disk_?
[17:31] <Chewy64> reisio, I've been told that before too. (That I don't need Xorg.conf) but it was my understanding that I do need it in order to be able to hardware monitor them. As I mistaken?
[17:31] <Chewy64> Am I*
[17:31] <reisio> R2--D2: configurations from 12.04?
[17:31] <reisio> Chewy64: you need a xorg.conf to use them with X
[17:32] <someHuman> reisio: I guess? To make myself clearer, I still need to press F9( change boot options) just to boot into Ubuntu.
[17:32] <reisio> Chewy64: shouldn't need them for a render farm, can't imagine you would
[17:32] <reisio> Chewy64: I don't suppose it matters, though, if X is working
[17:32] <R2--D2> keep configuration files of my apps like sublimetext etc
[17:32] <reisio> someHuman: you have two hard disks?
[17:32] <reisio> R2--D2: from what, the hard disk install?
[17:32] <someHuman> reisio: What do you mean?
[17:32] <someHuman> reisio: I do have two OSes.
[17:32] <reisio> someHuman: how many hard drives?
[17:32] <Chewy64> reisio, The only thing I need is to be able to hardware monitor them. And the only way I have been able to do that is to enable them all in the Xorg.
[17:33] <reisio> Chewy64: so... what's the problem?
[17:33] <Chewy64> reisio, They don't work.
[17:33] <yellabs-r2> ubuntu 14.04 with update of firefox - kills firefox and it crashes ( does not show up anymore ) cant trace  crash report..
[17:33] <R2--D2> i just run ubuntu 12.04 in my desktop
[17:33] <someHuman> reisio: I just want a menu that shows me all of my OSes on bootup, then let's me choose which one to boot into.
[17:33] <penko> ok. i got restricted addons and extras.  but there isn`t flash in mozilla
[17:33] <Chewy64> And they aren't DOA or anything.
[17:33] <reisio> someHuman: yes I know
[17:34] <reisio> someHuman: you don't know how many hard disks you have?
[17:34] <someHuman> reisio: Nope :(
[17:34] <reisio> someHuman: can you install pastebinit and run lsblk -f | pastebinit ?
[17:34] <reisio> R2--D2: you want to update 12.04 to 14?
[17:34] <R2--D2> yes
[17:35] <hehehe> :)
[17:35] <R2--D2> i guess i could do it update by updates
[17:35] <R2--D2> but it will be a mammoth weaste of my time
[17:35] <R2--D2> *waste
[17:35] <k1l> R2--D2: which update are you talking baout?
[17:35] <k1l> +about
[17:36] <R2--D2> updating from 12.04 to 12.10 ..... and then till 14.04
[17:36] <hehehe> folks when I run nestat I see  tcp6       0      0 localhost.localdom:9370 localhost.localdo:59022 TIME_WAIT what does time wait means?
[17:36] <someHuman> reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7346748/
[17:36] <Chewy64> reisio, Again it's hard to explain. I don't need them to output to display, I need them to be able to been seen by the render software, and be hardware monitored. The cards won't do anything computation/display wise, but I can hardware monitor them after I run "aticonfig --initial --adapter=-all -f" but they still won't output to display or cdo computations.
[17:36] <k1l> R2--D2: so you want from 12.04 to 14.04?
[17:36] <R2--D2> yes
[17:36] <llutz> R2--D2: " do-release-upgrade -d"
[17:36] <R2--D2> any way ?
[17:36] <reisio> R2--D2: so you want to backup 12 and then do a fresh install of 14?
[17:36] <hehehe> and also other ports use IPV4 and this one IPV6
[17:36] <hehehe> bizzare
[17:37] <R2--D2> I want to keep all my apps and configs and upgrade to 14.04 LTS from 12.04 LTS
[17:37] <k1l> R2--D2: the official 12.04 lts to 14.04 lts update will be opened on 27th july when 14.04 will become 14.04.1
[17:37] <veryhappy> nobody know an answer?
[17:37] <k1l> R2--D2: but you can try the developer update from 12.04 to 14.04
[17:37] <reisio> veryhappy: 42
[17:37] <R2--D2> aah ....
[17:38] <R2--D2> do-release-upgrade -d   by this i get a developer upgrade?
[17:38] <hehehe> very happy answer to what?
[17:38] <StrangeNoises> you get the 14.04 actual release
[17:38] <k1l> R2--D2: yes
[17:38] <hehehe> I migfht be able to help u
[17:38] <StrangeNoises> but for people who care about stability, .0 releases don't count :-)
[17:39] <StrangeNoises> so for them, 14.04.0 is "developer" :-)
[17:39] <R2--D2> i have downlaoded the 14.04 iso and made a bootbable ubuntu 14.04 with unetbootin
[17:39] <k1l> StrangeNoises: that is the reason why its opened on 27th july :)
[17:39] <reisio> R2--D2: you have a place to backup your data?
[17:39] <StrangeNoises> some of the rest of us have been running 14.04 on production desktops for a few months now ;-D
[17:39] <k1l> R2--D2: you dont need the iso for updateing
[17:39] <StrangeNoises> but that's just because i like computing to be a bit more interesting sometimes
[17:40] <danielsu> close
[17:40] <R2--D2> yes i have a place to backup my data ....
[17:40] <hehehe> :P
[17:40] <R2--D2> :P
[17:42] <reisio> R2--D2: so what's stopping you?
[17:42] <R2--D2> i don't have complete knowhow of linux filesystems
[17:42] <R2--D2> i may mess it up
[17:42] <R2--D2> i haven't done this before
[17:43] <k1l> R2--D2: if you dont know much about ubuntu and you want a stable system i suggest you wait for the official LTS to LTS upgrade on 27th july
[17:44] <k1l> and backups are very clever when murphys law strikes back :)
[17:44] <R2--D2> yeah that is not too much time from now :P
[17:45] <veryhappy> k1l: the official 14.04 LTS upgrade may end in several bug searching, myself i found a lot of bugs even the grub-installer didn't work. i'd say have fun then, better stay with the version you use now...
[17:45] <reisio> R2--D2: if you have the space, a whole fs backup is simple
[17:46] <reisio> R2--D2: use lsblk -f to find your partitions, mount them with 'mount', then rsync -av /mnt/ubuntu /mnt/backup/
[17:46] <Beldar> veryhappy, The official lts is in july
[17:46] <reisio> R2--D2: if you don't you have to figure out which parts to backup, usually /home/ will be most important
[17:46] <k1l> veryhappy: the upgrades get automated testing and work. but that may depend on the personal special setup
[17:46] <veryhappy> Beldar: so why it's out then already when there's a lot of bugs in there?
[17:47] <k1l> veryhappy: did you try to help fix those bugs?
[17:47] <Beldar> veryhappy, Heh, your definition of a bug may not be the same as a developers.
[17:47] <R2--D2> okay now it seems waiting for 27th july will be a better idea :P :DS
[17:47] <reisio> :p
[17:47] <veryhappy> Beldar: i just want to give you the hint that i'm to become a developer as well. hope that helps.
[17:48] <veryhappy> anyway, i'm gonna try to find a solution for my problem that i have right now with ubuntu 12.04 amd64
[17:48] <Beldar> veryhappy, Nice wish, I have many to, never to achieve. ;)
[17:48] <R2--D2> okay anyways guys i wanted to thank you all for providing us with such a free and wonderful os :)
[17:49] <veryhappy> Beldar: get yourself a nice fairy, perhaps it's gonna become fulfilled...
[17:49] <sergio-br2> hello
[17:49] <reisio> heya
[17:50] <Beldar> veryhappy, Actually I have achieved more in the 49 years on this planet than many, so I'm pretty happy, I'm not a kid.
[17:50] <sergio-br2> i made a package that have a website link in debian/control, but it does not appears in synaptic or software center...
[17:51] <reisio> sergio-br2: uhhh, pick a distro, then /join #distro
[17:51] <alexbligh1> What's the recommended way to upgrade a server from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrustyUpgrades says if you have something other than 13.10, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes which refers you back to the former. do-release-upgrade does nothing.
[17:51] <k1l> alexbligh1: wait for the LTS to LTS upgrade that will be opened on 27th july when 14.04.1 is released
[17:51] <sergio-br2> reisio, the package is for ubuntu (12.04, 13.10, 14.04)
[17:52] <reisio> oh this is #ubuntu :p
[17:52] <alexbligh1> k11, yes but what is the recommended way to do it /now/.
[17:52] <stefg> Hi channel, my newly installed ubuntu 14.04 decided to not let me access removable media with anything less than root-privileges. I get the sidebar icons and the usb-drive shows up in nautilus/nemo, but trying to access them gives me gedit?! stating that i don't have access rights. Any gvfs/udev experts in here that can help me debug this?
[17:52] <k1l> alexbligh1: use the developer upgrade parameter
[17:53] <alexbligh1> k11, ah - '-d' should work? fantastic, thanks
[17:53] <veryhappy> Beldar: may your age help you be happy about your wisdom, i'm happy that i'm still a young guy, and who knows, maybe i'm gonna become also very good and reach more than you with your age, not to be rude, it's just an idea... ;)
[17:53] <sergio-br2> reisio, one later version of my ppa, it was normal this website thing. Then, i made a new version with a recipe, and now i missed the website link
[17:53] <k1l> alexbligh1: but be aware that is not the LTS upgrade
[17:54] <alexbligh1> k11, yep I know that. I just want to run trusty on something I am currently running precise on, so I can test stuff.
[17:54] <k1l> veryhappy: please focus on technical ubuntu support in here. thanks
[17:54] <sergio-br2> reisio, later not, * early
[17:55] <owen1> i try to install sogou input method - http://pinyin.sogou.com/linux/. there is a deb file but i prefer to use the ppa, to enjoy auto-updates. clicking on the 64bit link send me here: http://pinyin.sogou.com/linux/help.php but i get 'Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/fcitx-team/nightly/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404' after i type 'apt-get update'. any advice?
[17:55] <veryhappy> k11, i was just answering to him, no reason to bitch about support topic, i know it already, thanks for the information.
[17:56] <cybrNaut> would someone with java please run "aptitude changelog openjdk-6-jdk".. i get 404 not found and I wonder if the problem is on my end or the server (i'm on debian, so it'll also be interesting if ubuntu differs)
[17:56] <veryhappy> btw i found a solution for my problem myself, take care
[17:56] <trism> owen1: they do not have builds for 14.04 yet
[17:57] <trism> cybrNaut: works fine here but ours come from http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/
[17:57] <alexbligh1> cybrNaut, works here on precise. I happen to know that package has had security changes recently so would suggest apt-get update first
[17:58] <cybrNaut> thanks folks.. i appreciate it
[17:58] <owen1> trism: but it say: 支持：Ubuntu12.04及14.04 (support for)
[17:59] <trism> owen1: it can say whatever it wants but the ppa does not contain the builds for 14.04
[17:59] <owen1> trism: oh. so what are my options here?
[17:59] <owen1> and how can i see what u just mentioned?
[18:01] <trism> owen1: this is the ppa you linked: https://launchpad.net/~fcitx-team/+archive/nightly look at the published in dropdown
[18:01] <llutz> owen1: or check http://ppa.launchpad.net/fcitx-team/nightly/ubuntu/dists/   no "trusty/" at all
[18:01] <owen1> trism: also this mentioned he installed it on 14.04 - http://askubuntu.com/questions/450255/installing-sogou
[18:01] <owen1> he just didn't say how ):
[18:02] <stefg> Arrghhhh... now the removable media are mounted under a sub-dir named after the user in /media ... so that folder belonged to root (for no apparent reason. Why can't working concepts not be left alone... adding complexity only adds trouble
[18:02] <trism> owen1: he used the daily ppa, which does have trusty builds
[18:03] <trism> owen1: https://launchpad.net/~fcitx-team/+archive/dailybuild-fcitx-master
[18:03] <owen1> trism: omg. thanks. i'll add that ppa instead of the nightly!
[18:03] <trism> owen1: but since the first answer suggests removing that, I don't think you should do that, and just install the deb
[18:04] <convict> Anyone here experienced with ubuntu on macbook pro's? Have discrete gpu switching problems.
[18:05] <owen1> trism: i tried the deb, it told me i am missing fcitx. when i tried installing fctix it told me i miss more packages and suggested 'apt-get -f install'. is there any risk in doing that? should i purge ibus?
[18:06] <Gape> Hello, for 6 months now, ubuntu thinks it's on version 13.04 but everything is updated to 13.10 so when I start the upgrade it doesn't do anything
[18:06] <trism> owen1: apt-get -f install is fine and usual behavior after installing a deb because you need to get the deps
[18:06] <owen1> trism: cool. should i purge ibus or it's better to have both ibus and fctix?
[18:06] <Gape> It's a problem now because I want to upgrade to 14.04, so i decided to manually edit /etc/lsb_release and /etc/issue, but I'm not sure what should i put into
[18:07] <trism> owen1: I have no idea about the software itself, never used it, I use ibus/mozc
[18:07] <trism> owen1: some things in unity dep on ibus though so you probably shouldn't purge it
[18:08] <owen1> tibr: thanks!
[18:08] <owen1> i meant trism ^
[18:08] <streulma> hello, sometimes my webcam is recognised as SPCA device, sometimes it is HD Webcam (that's official). Now with lsusb it is not listed anymore. >> If I start Skype or Google Hangouts the camera crashes.
[18:09] <streulma> the camera is not in lsusb anymore
[18:10] <streulma> who can help ?
[18:11] <Mary120> buonasera
[18:11] <owen1> trism:  Start XIM error. Another XIM daemon named ibus is running?
[18:11] <owen1> (ERROR-31551 /build/buildd/fcitx-4.2.8.3/src/lib/fcitx/instance.c:427) Exiting
[18:11] <owen1> trism: maybe i need to stop the ibus daemon?
[18:13] <trism> owen1: yeah probably, you might want to set the Keyboard input method in language settings then log out/back in, I think it defaults to ibus
[18:13] <owen1> trism: ok. let's see
[18:15] <owen1> trism: do u know of a way to do that using the console? just curious. i love to have scripts for every new ubuntu and rather not open GUI.
[18:16] <owen1> maybe im-config
[18:16] <trism> owen1: yeah
[18:16] <Felishia> HELP
[18:16] <gib05_000> hello all, im new to ubuntu trying to get away from windows. that being said what would be the best way going about learning the system?
[18:16] <Felishia> how do I pause a release upgrade?
[18:17] <Felishia> so that when I turn it on it install the packages
[18:19] <kostkon> !manual | gib05_000
[18:19] <Felishia> I was thinking of sudo pm-hibenate
[18:20] <StrangeNoises> gib05_000: just use it, commit to it and don't give up and be ready to look for stuff that might be just in a bit of a different place than you're used to.
[18:20] <StrangeNoises> that's all
[18:23] <Anomie21> Following this guide - https://github.com/feralhosting/feralfilehosting/tree/master/Feral%20Wiki/Software/wip%20-%20plex - Falling at the first hurdle - [dionysus ~] wget -qO ~/plex.deb http://downloads.plexapp.com/plex-media-server/0.9.8.18.290-11b7fdd/plexmediaserver_0.9.8.18.290-11b7fdd_amd64.deb
[18:23] <Anomie21> [dionysus ~] dpkg-deb -x ~/plex.deb ~/plex
[18:23] <Anomie21> dpkg-deb: error: `/media/sdg1/home/roseroseee/plex.deb' is not a debian format archive
[18:23] <nicolas__> anyone know how to disable irc system messages, e.g. "user has quit" or "user joined #conversation"
[18:24] <bekks> Anomie21: Then contact the author of that 3rd party .deb file.
[18:24] <Anomie21> bekks: So there's something wrong with the actual file? righto cheers
[18:25] <gib05_000> ty kostkon and StrangeNoises for the reference and tip on using it.
[18:25] <Guest4468> Hi guys. Was working away in Lubuntu-13.10, got informed 14.04 was available do I wish to upgrade? Yes. When the upgrade was complete PC rebooted into a panic. Currently typing this from a usb-rescue. What can I do?
[18:26] <bekks> Guest4468: Tell us the details of the panic.
[18:26] <srock> irc faq file
[18:27] <bekks> srock: ?
[18:27] <Guest4468> bekks: the usual: "Panic: Unable to mount rootfs on unknown-block(0,0)
[18:27] <Guest4468> PC stops dead.
[18:27] <bekks> Guest4468: Which hardware do you have, exactly?
[18:28] <Anomie21> What we are doing with the sed commands: Find these lines and change them:
[18:28] <Anomie21> How do I find these lines? grep? not sure what a sed command is
[18:28] <bekks> Anomie21: What are you talking about?
[18:28] <Guest4468> Desktop pc atom processor 2G ram 250G Western Digital pretty basic really
[18:28] <jhutchins> Guest4468: grub is pointing to the wrong device.
[18:28] <Anomie21> bekks: From that link - https://github.com/feralhosting/feralfilehosting/tree/master/Feral%20Wiki/Software/wip%20-%20plex
[18:29] <jhutchins> !fixgrub
[18:29] <bekks> Anomie21: The "sed lines" are listed there.
[18:29]  * danonura slaps jid around a bit with a large trout
[18:29] <Guest4468> jhutchins: it boots to the old grub window - when I click Ubuntu it panics.
[18:29] <Anomie21> bekks: Sorry, not sure what to do with them? Just paste them into terminal? grep the files for those lines? is sed some command I can run to replace these lines? :s
[18:30] <bekks> Anomie21: Execute them.
[18:31] <Guest4468> least I think it's the old grub. It's got entries I've since deleted.
[18:31] <bekks> Anomie21: If you dont know what to do with commands it is most likely better to not do what you are doing there :)
[18:31] <jhutchins> Guest4468: grub is pointing to the wrong device.
[18:31] <koell> What exactly does the Firefox Plugin "Ubuntu Firefox Modification" do?
[18:31] <duvipearson> Boy I am in a pickle
[18:31] <koell> It is installed by default
[18:31] <Anomie21> bekks: Learn by doing :)
[18:32] <duvipearson> Does anybody understand PostGreSQL?
[18:32] <Guest4468> jhutchins: so I go to grub command line?
[18:32] <duvipearson> I seem to have forgotten my password to access my database
[18:32] <duvipearson> to use with pgAdmin II
[18:32] <duvipearson> pgAdmin III
[18:32] <Beldar> koell, the ubuntu dev mods
[18:32] <jhutchins> Guest4468: Check the links above for instructions.
[18:32] <duvipearson> Is there a way to retrieve the password
[18:32] <duvipearson> The PostGreSQL is on a remote Ubuntu server
[18:33] <duvipearson> My Database is on that server
[18:33] <duvipearson> And i forgot the password
[18:33] <koell> Beldar: dev mods?
[18:33] <Beldar> koell, developers modifications
[18:33] <Guest4468> jhutchins: I scrolled to the top didn't see the proper link
[18:34] <koell> Beldar: what do they do? do i need them i lubuntu?
[18:34] <tr0n> im trying to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04, i've tried and always get "the installation or removal of a software package failed", i've tried booting into safe mode and doing update & upgrade then updating grub and repairing the packages but that doesnt work, any suggestions?
[18:34] <jhutchins> !fixgrub > Guest4468
[18:34] <ashish_> failed to login other user accounts after removing gnome. main user account is running with unity
[18:35] <jhutchins> davidcalle: Try googling "recover postgress password".  Looks very helpful.
[18:35] <tr0n> it downloads the upgrades but installation fails
[18:35] <Beldar> koell, I'm not sure what the mods are, you can turn it off or on.
[18:35] <davidcalle> duvipearson, ^
[18:35] <duvipearson> ok
[18:35] <koell> Beldar: i think it has to do with unity integration :)
[18:35] <xangua> ashish_: so did you try to change the user account session from gnome to unity¿
[18:36] <michagogo|cloud> Anyone have an idea why https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin/+archive/bitcoin/+sourcepub/4094734/+listing-archive-extra and https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin/+archive/bitcoin/+sourcepub/4094732/+listing-archive-extra both succeeded for amd64 but failed for i386?
[18:37] <Beldar> koell, I think that is part of it yeah, not sure really, I have it off in the gnome shell
[18:37] <ashish_> xangua, i was using gnome. after that i switched to unity and removed gnome. now because of removing gnome i cant login other user account. my main account is running with unity fime
[18:37] <ashish_> fine
[18:37] <koell> Beldar: hahah, so nothing to worry about xD
[18:37] <xangua> michagogo|cloud: maybe the 32bit packages didn't get buld, concact the repository maintainer
[18:37] <deepfield> Hi, Been having problems running 3d games as far as odd graphical glitches go. im guessing its to do with my drivers. But im not sure which one I should be using. This is what I have to pick from. http://imgur.com/YhVMBfa
[18:37] <michagogo|cloud> xangua: hm?
[18:38] <michagogo|cloud> The 32-bit packages failed the build
[18:38] <michagogo|cloud> I know that
[18:38] <ashish_> xangua, i think for other user accounts, default desktop is gnome thats why i am not able to login. how can i change desktop session for that accounts
[18:38] <tr0n> !upgrade
[18:38] <michagogo|cloud> What I'm asking is, does anyone have any idea why? It seems to happen when configure is looking for boost
[18:38] <xangua> ashish_: did you try to CHANGE the OTHERS users default desktop to unity¿ you can do it on the login screen
[18:38] <michagogo|cloud> Are the boost packages on i386 and amd64 different?
[18:39] <ashish_> xangua, after removing gnome desktop, now there is no session selection option in login window
[18:39] <xangua> michagogo|cloud: yes they failes, you may wanna contact the PPA maintainer to ask if hi is aware or tell any problems you have with that repository
[18:39] <xangua> ashish_: so install it back
[18:40] <ashish_> xangua, there is no other option?
[18:40] <xangua> ashish_: well gnome-shell is not a big package and you already have most of gnome desktop already
[18:40] <joejoemister> What are we talking about
[18:41] <ashish_> xangua, actually just now i created new user account but that one also i am not able to login. its default creating login as gnome
[18:42] <michagogo|cloud> Does anyone besides xangua  have any idea why https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin/+archive/bitcoin/+sourcepub/4094734/+listing-archive-extra and https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin/+archive/bitcoin/+sourcepub/4094732/+listing-archive-extra both succeeded for amd64 but failed for i386?
[18:42] <xangua> michagogo|cloud: did you already contact the PPA maintainer¿
[18:44] <michagogo|cloud> xangua: yes, he's busy and not around much. I figured I'd try to see if I could help him out by seeing if anyone else can tell, at a glance, what might be different
[18:47] <nerium> Anyone know if magnet files exists?
[18:47] <narcos> Hi all. Could anyone recommend a tutorial for setting up an IRC server on Ubuntu with SSL enforced (compulsory) and a password req'd to connect ?
[18:48] <michagogo|cloud> nerium: do you mean magnet links?
[18:48] <StrangeNoises> nerium: they exist, but on linux you have to reverse the polarity
[18:48] <nerium> michagogo|cloud: Yes and no.
[18:48] <nerium> I need to create magnet filés (instead of links) for a RSS feed used by utorrent
[18:48] <daftykins> narcos: IRCd's are particularly complex, if you wanted to run one you should understand it a lot better than just following a tutorial. are you sure that's the best approach for what you're trying to achieve?
[18:48] <michagogo|cloud> nerium: Do you mean a .torrent file?
[18:49] <nerium> michagogo|cloud: A torrent file contains more info than a magnet link, so no :)
[18:49] <michagogo|cloud> Erm
[18:49] <michagogo|cloud> echo magnet:<foo> >> bar.magnetfile
[18:49] <michagogo|cloud> Is that what you're looking for?
[18:49] <tr0n> http://pastebin.com/1DhT1WJv <- help
[18:49] <david______> hi
[18:49] <michagogo|cloud> I don't think a magnet file is a thing
[18:50] <fabio123> it's just a url
[18:50] <nerium> michagogo|cloud: So if I want to serve that from a server, wich content type would I use?
[18:50] <michagogo|cloud> nerium: I was kidding
[18:50] <michagogo|cloud> I don't know that any software will do anything intelligent with that file
[18:51] <nerium> michagogo|cloud: Propebly not
[18:51] <narcos> daftykins: I want to setup an IRC server for a few people to communicate - over SSL, with a password to connect to the server. Are there simpler IRC servers?
[18:51] <StrangeNoises> simpler than what?
[18:51] <nerium> The thing is that I need to force utorrent to do a request back to my server requesting the magnet link
[18:51] <tr0n> this isnt an ircd help channel narcos
[18:51] <srock> magent download work better if theres a lack of seeders
[18:52] <srock> magntic
[18:52] <bekks> srock: "magnet".
[18:52] <srock> that to
[18:52] <narcos> tr0n: I'm running Ubuntu if that helps. Know where I should go?
[18:52]  * narcos pokes his head into #ircd
[18:52] <tr0n> umm #ircd?
[18:53] <tr0n> maybe try it on dal or efnet
[18:53] <michagogo|cloud> nerium: what's the point?
[18:53] <nerium> michagogo|cloud: I want to track downloads
[18:53] <michagogo|cloud> Why don't you just put the .torrent there?
[18:53] <narcos> I thought this would be a trivial thing
[18:53] <nerium> michagogo|cloud: b/c I don't have any
[18:53] <tr0n> no, ircd's are complex
[18:53] <michagogo|cloud> uh, what?
[18:54] <michagogo|cloud> A magnet link points to a torrent
[18:54] <nerium> michagogo|cloud: Building one based on the info provided by the magnet link wont work in utorrent
[18:54] <narcos> Well, it was trivial to setup a server with hybrid-irc (apt-get install, change a couple of configs) but getting SSL support lacks documentation
[18:54] <michagogo|cloud> A .torrent must exist.
[18:54] <nerium> michagogo|cloud: Maybe somewhere in the cloud
[18:54] <tr0n> well its beyond the scope of this channel
[18:54]  * narcos finds http://www.davidxia.com/2013/03/how-to-setup-ircd-hybrid-with-ssl-on-ubuntu/
[18:54] <gamoholic> Did something happen to the Intel video driver between 13.10 and 14.04? I have a 2560x1440 monitor that no longer gets recognized with kernels higher than 3.11. I have even tried 3.14 and 3.15 from kernel.ubuntu.com
[18:54] <StrangeNoises> narcos: i use inspircd on a little irc network. supports ssl; haven't tried password-to-connect though
[18:55] <StrangeNoises> i don't think it's an ubuntu package though; so generic linux only
[18:55] <narcos> StrangeNoises: Ah great, thanks for the tip
[18:55] <StrangeNoises> (ie: offtopic here ;-)
[18:55] <nerium> michagogo|cloud: But I don't have it
[18:55] <mozzarella> guys
[18:55] <tr0n> or just get the cryptocat plugin and make a room there
[18:55] <mozzarella> can I display the current time in the lockscreen? in a big font
[18:56] <michagogo|cloud> ...fetch it from the magnet link?
[18:56] <michagogo|cloud> Sorry, I don't think I can help you
[18:57] <nerium> michagogo|cloud: I've 50k+ magnet links, so fetching all torrents isn't an option
[19:04] <potetoes> Hi
[19:04] <danielsu> Is openStack included in this new release?
[19:05] <markosejic> good evening
[19:06] <markosejic> just testing xubuntu
[19:07] <daftykins> markosejic: support questions only in here please
[19:07] <markosejic> ok sorrz
[19:08] <markosejic> sorry
[19:08] <govinda> desktop session change to gnome at every login
[19:11] <smaudet> Greetings - where can I find a good linux manual? Not askubuntu, not die.net, not help.ubuntu.com, not stackexchange/stackoverflow, not any of that Q/A format junk
[19:12] <smaudet> google searches are coming up empty for 'linux manual'
[19:12] <zlatan_> hello, my friend had this problem so if anyone knows what could possible happen please respond http://askubuntu.com/questions/456564/investigating-raid-related-issue-that-caused-data-loss-while-using-liveusb
[19:12] <smaudet> (or at least cluttered with junk)
[19:12] <smaudet> ah found it!
[19:12] <smaudet> tldp
[19:12] <smaudet> :)
[19:15] <AverageDood> first time trying to install ubuntu. all i get after grub is a kernel panic telling me to pass init= option to kernel
[19:15] <AverageDood> no idea what to do
[19:16] <duvipearson> I am hopelessy lost with Postgresql
[19:17] <ralph> AverageDood clean install? what version? VM or no?
[19:19] <spearson> Hi, I'm trying to update my system to prepare for 14.04 but cups always fails. Cups-client and cups. I've tried the main server and the united states server and it doesn't seem to help
[19:19] <oenvoyage> hello, my control center as well as Ubuntu software center are broekn : http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=70406 any idea ?
[19:19] <AverageDood> 14.04 tried booting alongside win8 after trying from a flash drive. Trial worked well so i tried installing. not a vm
[19:19] <oenvoyage> sound is broekn too suddenly (not sure if related)
[19:20] <spearson> Does anyone have any solutions?
[19:23] <pvh_sa> heya there... I'm running ubuntu 13.10, just did a dist-upgrade and reboot, and now when I log in, I just get a black screen instead of a session (and it seems compiz isn't running btw)
[19:24] <_1_Ebola_86> Hello.
[19:24] <spearson> I'm running v13.10
[19:25] <_1_Ebola_86> Do you know if Ubuntu is capable of reading 1980s IDE/PATA hard drives, or is my drive just dead?
[19:25] <_1_Ebola_86> *(Ubuntu 14.04)
[19:26] <spearson> does any one have any solutions to the issue I'm experiencing?
[19:26] <dw1> pvh_sa: ctrl-alt-f1 to get to terminal and install video driver
[19:26] <dw1> spearson: 13.10 is no longer supported so noone can 'officially' help
[19:27] <spearson> I'm trying to upgrade to 14.04 but those two updates seem to prevent it
[19:27] <dw1> pvh_sa: for nvidia install nvidia-current, for AMD I might recommend purging fglrx
[19:27] <spearson> anyway I can force the update to 14.04?
[19:28] <pvh_sa> dw1: its an intel chip... driver is installed but just to be safe i'm reinstalling xserver-xorg-video-intel
[19:28] <dw1> spearson: i dont know... could try removing them
[19:28] <spearson> I don't want tot reinstall the os
[19:28] <spearson> removing cups?
[19:28] <dw1> pvh_sa: could try removing driver too
[19:28] <Beldar> spearson, Are you using the cups ppa?
[19:28] <spearson> not sure
[19:28] <pvh_sa> thing is, I see the greeter fine. no problems there...
[19:29] <dw1> pvh_sa: may want to check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues
[19:29] <spearson> if I remove cups, wil 14.04 install it again?
[19:29] <dw1> if not, you can
[19:30] <Beldar> spearson, can you pastebin the output from this command. grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}  THis will list all the repos you are using
[19:30] <spearson> 1 sec, not in ubuntu now running OS X
[19:30] <spearson> let me reboot
[19:30] <spearson> back a minute
[19:30] <Beldar> no problem, spearson
[19:30] <Keba> hi there
[19:30] <spearson> and you may have to repost so I can do what you are telling m
[19:30] <spearson> me*
[19:30] <Beldar> cool
[19:31] <Keba> Is there a way to use the Software Center to install the games of the latest Humble Weekly Sale?
[19:31] <Keba> Of course I could download the .debs, but I‘d love to get updates as well
[19:31] <Gaming4JC> Keba: afaik Humble Indie Bundle doesn't offer any PPA or repo, hence it is not possible. :/
[19:32] <pvh_sa> dw1: Xorg log looks ok. I think this is something besides the core X stuff - its something in the gnome-session, but I can't find a log for that...
[19:32] <Keba> Gaming4JC: thats sad, but okay
[19:33] <dw1> pvh_sa: ~/.xsession-errors may have some info
[19:34] <dw1> pvh_sa: what do you mean by the greeter works?  you get to/past the login screen?
[19:35] <dw1> pvh_sa: if login works, what happens if you create a new user and login
[19:36] <spearson> Ok I'm back
[19:36] <spearson> what did you want me t do?
[19:36] <pvh_sa> dw1: good idea. ahah, xsession-errors says "extension "GLX" missing on display ":0""
[19:36] <spearson> to*
[19:37] <Beldar> spearson, can you pastebin the output from this command. grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}  THis will list all the repos you are using
[19:37] <dw1> pvh_sa: ahh
[19:37] <dw1> pvh_sa: just saw something in a forum yesterday about something like that..... let me check
[19:37] <reisio> pvh_sa: that _usually_ is irrelevant to all things, IIRC
[19:38] <someHuman> How do I convert an mp4 video downloaded via youtube-dl to an audio file ?
[19:38] <bekks> someHuman: You cannot convert it, you have to extract the audio.
[19:39] <spearson> Here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/7347529/
[19:39] <someHuman> bekks: How?
[19:39] <pvh_sa> ok, then there is an error about at-spi2-registryd main process ended, and finally a complaint that it is respawning too fast...
[19:39] <user124141> does someone know if youtube-dl already supports 1080p / 4k ?
[19:40] <someHuman> user124141: Have you Googled it?
[19:40] <dw1> pvh_sa: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1864489&page=3&p=11371997#post11371997
[19:40] <dw1> pvh_sa: dont know about that other thing
[19:41] <pvh_sa> dw1: can't load that url, sorry.. got nothing to open it with - what does it say?
[19:41] <spearson> #Beldar http://paste.ubuntu.com/7347529/
[19:41] <user124141> someHuman: Looked at the homepage of yt-dl, but there are no informations about that
[19:41] <someHuman> user124141: Then maybe it still isn't, also I don't have time for that. Sorry.
[19:42] <Beldar> spearson, I see it, thanks, I don't see the cups ppa there, but I do see other ppa's. So what led you to that original cups fail exactly, when and where?
[19:42] <bekks> someHuman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1122611
[19:42] <dw1> pvh_sa: check private message
[19:42] <runelind> anyone have issues controlling ubuntu via the DRAC port on a Dell C1100?  The keymap seems to be all screwed up
[19:42] <dw1> pvh_sa: otherwise id google that error :)
[19:42] <spearson> When I update via the updater, it fails on cups-client and cups
[19:43] <Beldar> spearson, Can you pastebin   'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[19:43] <runelind> typing in my username shows up as ^]u^]s^]e^]r
[19:44] <dw1> pvh_sa: you need to get on the web man :)
[19:44] <user124141> someHuman: thanks for the intention to help me :D
[19:45] <dw1> pvh_sa: sure theres nothing in Xorg.0.log about GLX failing ?
[19:46] <dw1> pvh_sa: try removing all drivers ... nvidia, nouveau, intel etc
[19:47] <spearson> Here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/7347583/
[19:48] <spearson> I ran both commands and pasted the results of both.
[19:48] <IdleOne> spearson: sudo apt-get -f install
[19:49] <IdleOne> the -f will attempt to fix the broken/half installed packages
[19:49] <spearson> ok
[19:50] <pvh_sa> dw1: yeah still getting the failing GLX, thanks for the pm. btw created a new user - get the message about upgrade to 14.04 being available, but otherwise no display...
[19:50] <spearson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7347613/
[19:50] <dw1> pvh_sa: you could install gnome-session and gnome-session-fallback and login without compiz effects perhaps
[19:50] <lunadimaggio> ciao
[19:51] <spearson> do you want me to use apt-get autoremove?
[19:51] <dw1> pvh_sa: click the ubuntu icon next to login box to choose desktop after install
[19:51] <mozzarella> guys
[19:52] <orbisvicis> I have bridging setup per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge, which has been working fine until now: some sort of race condition >50% of the time eth0 is not added to the bridge
[19:52] <zzecool> Hello there i for some reason dont have Login logout  etc notification sounds working on ubuntu 14.04 , is there any way to re enable them ?  ( in the sound settings sound effects bar is on 100% ) ??  Thanks in advace
[19:52] <dw1> spearson: remove the buggy stuff imo
[19:52] <spearson> so you want me to run apt-get autoremove right?
[19:53] <lunadimaggio> ciao a tutti
[19:53] <orbisvicis> I have "bridge_ports eth0 tap0" and most of the time eth0 is not part of the bridge
[19:53] <dw1> spearson: doesnt matter, it only removes things that are no longer in use
[19:53] <Beldar> spearson, I have to wonder "guess" that a ppa is the root of the issue, maybe the libreoffice, or marlin. Yeah feel free to run that.
[19:53] <dw1> spearson: you wouldnt run it unless apt mentions it
[19:53] <orbisvicis> if an error is logged, I'm not sure which log file to search (or what to search for)
[19:53] <spearson> ok
[19:53] <orbisvicis> I've tried "egrep -Ri --color brctl /var/log"
[19:53] <orbisvicis> (nothing)
[19:54] <dw1> spearson: i would do apt-get remove --purge cups cups-client
[19:54] <Beldar> dw1, I did and not a bad command in general.
[19:54] <dw1> spearson: wipe it right out
[19:54] <mozzarella> can someone give me the default font settings of ubuntu? in tweak tool
[19:54] <spearson> running sudo apt-get autoremove now
[19:55] <lunadimaggio> ciao a tutti
[19:55] <zzecool> mozzarella: there is a reset to defaults key in there
[19:55] <StrangeNoises> mozzarella: unity-tweak-tool should have revert-to-default buttons
[19:55] <StrangeNoises> snap
[19:55] <GRMrGecko> Hello, I have never had a successful Ubuntu Upgrade in my life. does 14.04 fix that?
[19:55] <StrangeNoises> gnome-tweak-tool don't work IME
[19:55] <GRMrGecko> Or will my upgrade to 14.04 fail like all others?
[19:55] <dw1> GRMrGecko: ive never had a bad one :)
[19:56] <StrangeNoises> GRMrGecko: as most ubuntu upgrades work for me, probably not. if you're in fear, backup and fresh-install
[19:56] <spearson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7347652/
[19:56] <StrangeNoises> as there may be something you're doing to setup/system config that breaks updates
[19:56] <GRMrGecko> StrangeNoises: I always keep a backup
[19:56] <mozzarella> StrangeNoises: thank you
[19:56] <dw1> GRMrGecko: though sometimes i have a video driver issue after upgrade and just install nvidia-current for my nvidia card
[19:56] <GRMrGecko> I install and configure Ubuntu to work for me.
[19:56] <spearson> should I try updating cups agan?
[19:57] <GRMrGecko> I don't exactly do anything other than edit /etc files.
[19:57] <StrangeNoises> GRMrGecko: maybe the wrong ones!
[19:57] <StrangeNoises> :-)
[19:57] <StrangeNoises> the upgrade process will tend to ask what to do about changed config files
[19:57] <GRMrGecko> StrangeNoises: Stuff like config files for server software
[19:57] <StrangeNoises> it's possible that a wrong answer there will wreck things. can't deny
[19:57] <GRMrGecko> like nginx
[19:57] <kostkon> spearson, also do a    sudo apt-get clean   first
[19:57] <spearson> ok
[19:58] <StrangeNoises> so given your past experience, i'd seriously say, yeah, do a fresh install and then bring in your config from your backup
[19:58] <Beldar> spearson, If it were me, cause I'm familiar with this area, I would do some ppa-purge at least to take these of the variable list. That command should not have effected your issue.
[19:58] <GRMrGecko> yeah
[19:58] <GRMrGecko> but still. I would like Ubuntu to finally fix itself and make upgrades possibe:P
[19:58] <spearson> how would I do a ppa-purge?
[19:58] <spearson> sudo ppa-purge?
[19:58] <kiilo> Hi i have problems with empathy after upgrade to 14.04 - i like to clear out all accounts - and rebuild them - where are they stored?
[19:59] <StrangeNoises> something to be said for rolling upgrades
[19:59] <Beldar> !ppapurge | spearson
[19:59]  * StrangeNoises liked using gentoo for that sort of thing
[19:59] <GRMrGecko> I never had issues with Debian crashing
[19:59] <pvh_sa> dw1: aha! i think i know what's causing this! i installed CUDA recently to try some GPU development, and it brought the nvidia drivers.... let me get rid of that
[19:59] <GRMrGecko> from upgrades
[19:59] <StrangeNoises> every now and then some package would break during upgrade, but it would tend to be one at a time if you upgraded regularly, and you could deal with the fallout then
[20:00] <Beldar> spearson, I see though that marlin ppa is a file manager though.
[20:00] <kiilo> does anyone know where empathy account settings are stored?
[20:00] <new0> hi everyone, i keep getting "Warning: Fake initctl called, doing not " any help?
[20:00] <GRMrGecko> maybe I should just make a patch file that I run to configure Ubuntu for me:P
[20:00] <GRMrGecko> lol
[20:00] <GRMrGecko> then any re-install, I can just run the patch file and boom
[20:00] <GRMrGecko> my system will be configured
[20:00] <StrangeNoises> bound to fail
[20:00] <reisio> kiilo: either in ~/.config or ~/.gnome or ~/ or gconf or dconf
[20:01] <kiilo> mmmh
[20:01] <kiilo> thanks ...
[20:01] <spearson> what's the command to install ppa-purge? sudo apt-get install ppa-purge?
[20:01] <GRMrGecko> StrangeNoises: I don't exactly mean a diff... But something better
[20:01] <GRMrGecko> like an automated perl script
[20:01] <dw1> pvh_sa:  :)
[20:02] <dw1> spearson: just kill the packages with apt-get remove --purge cups cups-client ... upgrade will disable 3rd party ppa's anyway i believe
[20:02] <GRMrGecko> I'll wait for summer to work on upgrading
[20:02] <ralph> spearson  try this:  http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html
[20:02] <GRMrGecko> maybe get an SSD for upgrade
[20:03] <dw1> spearson: you could also delete the ppa file from /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[20:03] <dw1> spearson: then run apt-get update
[20:03] <GRMrGecko> I have a RAID, but I read that RAIDs in Linux comes back after you install the software
[20:03] <GRMrGecko> have to look for my notes
[20:03] <pvh_sa> dw1: yep. apt-get purge nvidia\* - and now things are fine
[20:03] <StrangeNoises> GRMrGecko: upgrades usually work. if it's "always" breaking for you, there's some configs you're changing that the upgrade process can't deal with. it could be hard but rewarding to find out what. or easier just to fresh-install frankly :-) and probably keep to LTSs for this
[20:03] <dw1> pvh_sa: s'what i was sayin' - remove all :) cool
[20:06] <kiilo> @reisio mo the account settings are not in one of this locations?
[20:06] <roel> Hi. why is FLash Player Full screen function (browser Chrome) not 100 % full screen?
[20:06] <kiilo> there is emapthy/ui
[20:07] <m100> ü
[20:07] <kiilo> mmmh
[20:07] <StrangeNoises> roel: ask google i'm afraid; that's all their binary stuff
[20:08] <spearson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7347754/
[20:08] <reisio> kiilo: like this -> 'reisio: mo the account...'
[20:08] <slicktux> how do i uninstall Ubuntu from my hdd?..
[20:08] <bekks> slicktux: you just install another OS.
[20:09] <azerus> https://www.digitalocean.com/?refcode=6006a30fade6
[20:09] <mozzarella> guys
[20:09] <mozzarella> how do I add a timeout in grub
[20:09] <minitosh>   /join #ac100
[20:09] <dw1> mozzarella: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[20:09] <spearson> do you want me to do the update again?
[20:09] <spearson> and see if it works?
[20:09] <bekks> azerus: Whats a SSD cloud?
[20:10] <kiilo> reisio: i am searching the web up and down ... i think empathy accounts are stored in online accounts and somewhere in the FS for empathy itself ... wen i look intio empathy i see after relogin all this OLD accounts again
[20:10] <dw1> spearson: if you disabled that 3rd party ppa you might reinstall it or just upgrade now and reinstall it later if its still missing
[20:10] <roel> well, sometimes it is in 98 % of the screen and sometimes it opens with border. If it opens with border, there is then the option for real full screen.
[20:10] <slicktux> what is life?.
[20:10] <bekks> !ot | slicktux
[20:10] <dw1> spearson: the apt-get update refreshes repository list so only needed if you change repositories
[20:10] <spearson> I'll try the update again and see wahat happens
[20:10] <spearson> maybe 14.04 will now up
[20:10] <dw1> spearson: the upgrade command is what actually upgrades the packages
[20:10] <spearson> show*
[20:10] <reisio> kiilo: if it's not easily found with find ~/ -iname '*empathy*', it's probably in some awful GNOME registry
[20:11] <kiilo> yes thats what i think ...
[20:11] <spearson> It worked
[20:11] <spearson> the cups update is installing now
[20:11] <reisio> kiilo: I'd ask irc.gnome.org about it
[20:11] <spearson> Next I think 14.04 will show up :)
[20:11] <kiilo> reisio: emphasis on awful ... and undocumented
[20:11] <reisio> (if I used GNOME :p)
[20:11] <reisio> no I'm sure it's documented
[20:12] <fabio_> ciao
[20:12] <kiilo> ;-)
[20:12] <reisio> but if it's not in a plain text file in ~/.foo, then it's not where it should be
[20:12] <fabio_> !list
[20:13] <fabio_> ciao
[20:13] <fabio_> !list
[20:13] <spearson> It worked, thanks! The update to 14.04 showed up :0
[20:13] <spearson> Updating now
[20:13] <spearson> yay
[20:13] <reisio> gj
[20:14] <mozzarella> how do I change the default display?
[20:14] <reisio> mozzarella: to what?
[20:14] <mozzarella> to the one on the right
[20:14] <mozzarella> wait
[20:14] <mozzarella> I mean left
[20:14] <Beldar> spearson, good job, hopefully you are set.
[20:15] <reisio> mozzarella: what graphics device & driver?
[20:16] <mozzarella> ati something
[20:16] <mozzarella> radeon hd
[20:16] <alami> hi, i have try a lot of time to make a ubuntu live usb installation medium, but without success, does any one have a good idea, because i have try a lot of tools without success
[20:16] <mozzarella> and the free driver
[20:17] <spearson> How does Ununtu make money if it;s free?
[20:17] <StrangeNoises> support contracts
[20:17] <spearson> the developers have to eat though
[20:17] <bekks> spearson: Ubuntu isnt commercial. The company Canonical is.
[20:17] <Gaming4JC> installing *cough* adware *cough* into it. :)
[20:17] <dw1> alami: do you have trouble making the USB or booting it?
[20:18] <kostkon> spearson, ubuntu is the project, Canonical Ltd is the sponsor, the company behind it
[20:18] <reisio> bekks: ...that's a fine line
[20:18] <spearson> but how does the company make money if the project is free?
[20:18] <bekks> spearson: Support contracts, etc.
[20:18] <kostkon> spearson, support and other services check on their site
[20:18] <spearson> I know that one can donate when you download the iso
[20:18] <spearson> ok
[20:18] <dw1> alami: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:18] <kostkon> spearson, on ubuntu.com and canonical.com
[20:19] <spearson> why would I buy a support contract if I can get help via this chat
[20:19] <Gaming4JC> spearson: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks
[20:19] <kostkon> spearson, support for businesses
[20:19] <reisio> spearson: countless opportunities to push paid services
[20:19] <spearson> gotcha
[20:20] <mozzarella> how do I change the default display?
[20:21] <reisio> mozzarella: ati's configurator can do that, IIRC
[20:21] <mozzarella> I'm not using the proprietary driver
[20:21] <buero> l
[20:21] <kostkon> mozzarella, in your display settings
[20:22] <creature> Hello. I upgraded to 14.04 and now my laptop will not suspend. The screen goes dark for a couple of seconds, and then I get dropped to the lock screen. How do I fix that?
[20:22] <mozzarella> it's fine when I log in
[20:22] <mozzarella> but not at the login prompt
[20:22] <reisio> creature: check your DE's power management options first
[20:23] <reisio> mozzarella: what is it when it's not fine?
[20:23] <buero> Hello, apart from using Trisquel, is their a fully free kernel for Ubuntu?
[20:23] <Blinkiz> Hello. I have one partition of 25GB on my ~223GB large disk. How can I create a second partition filling all free space with the parted command?
[20:23] <kostkon> mozzarella, right. that's a well known bug
[20:23] <bekks> buero: Sure, the linux kernel is free.
[20:23] <kostkon> mozzarella, are you on 12.04?
[20:23] <mozzarella> 14.04
[20:23] <mozzarella> I doubt it's a bug…
[20:23] <reisio> buero: you can use pretty much any version of Linux (the kernel) with pretty much any distribution
[20:23] <buero> Sorry, I mean the kernel Ubuntu uses the Ubuntu kernel comes pre-packaged with non-free firmware by default, no?
[20:23] <creature> reisio: What, exactly, am I checking them for?
[20:24] <bekks> buero: No.
[20:24] <buero> yes
[20:24] <bekks> buero: No.
[20:24] <buero> #trisquel told me
[20:24] <reisio> creature: settings that are obviously wrong
[20:24] <bekks> buero: Then prove that statement.
[20:24] <bekks> buero: Unless you do, it still is "no".
[20:24] <buero> Give me a minute
[20:25] <penguinman> i know debian's used to. it's why they had the linux-libre option
[20:25] <reisio> bekks: no it's a yes :p
[20:25] <buero> http://askubuntu.com/questions/229598/is-the-ubuntu-kernel-100-free-software
[20:25] <reisio> not that it's worth bothering one's self over
[20:25] <buero> >     7     down vote                accepted                                                 No, ubuntu kernel is not 100% free, It includes some non free kernel blobs.
[20:25] <buero> I mean this
[20:25] <reisio> buero: already gave you your answer
[20:25] <buero> I do not understand
[20:25] <reisio> buero: what don't you understand?
[20:25] <buero> Is the kernel fully free?
[20:26] <bekks> Yes it is.
[20:26] <bekks> Read your own link: http://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html
[20:26] <penguinman> buero: the default ubuntu kernel does include some proprietary "blobs" for better hardware compatibility. things like wireless for example
[20:26] <buero> http://askubuntu.com/questions/229598/is-the-ubuntu-kernel-100-free-software
[20:26] <buero> Why do these people say no?
[20:26] <bekks> buero: Read the link given please.
[20:26] <creature> reisio: I'm not sure what setting could be wrong where choosing 'suspend' from the top right menu doesn't suspend.
[20:26] <mozzarella> how do I change the primary display
[20:26] <mozzarella> ;[
[20:26] <buero> I've already read the link before many times
[20:26] <StrangeNoises> i think nonfree stuff is kept in a separate package usually
[20:26] <d1323> can someone please  remind me how to launch a program each time computer is started?
[20:26] <reisio> creature: experiment
[20:26] <buero> Why do these people say Ubuntu isn't free?
[20:27] <reisio> d1323: what program, why?
[20:27] <buero> http://askubuntu.com/questions/229598/is-the-ubuntu-kernel-100-free-software
[20:27] <bekks> buero: Ask them, not us.
[20:27] <buero> free as in libre
[20:27] <penguinman> StrangeNoises: did ubuntu split them up then? hmm, explains the linux-image-extra package then.
[20:27] <reisio> buero: technically they're correct
[20:27] <buero> please elaborate
[20:27] <reisio> buero: but I told you how to use a 100% free kernel already
[20:27] <reisio> buero: nah, no need
[20:27] <buero> I don't understand
[20:27] <reisio> what don't you understand?
[20:27] <bekks> reisio: According to their own arguments, they arent. They say: "No, ubuntu kernel is not 100% free, It includes some non free kernel blobs.
[20:27] <bekks> source: http://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html (just look for ubuntu)"
[20:28] <reisio> bekks: whose?
[20:28] <buero> ubuntu isn't fully free, yes?
[20:28] <d1323> reisio f.lux daemon, it changes monitor color temperature based on the time of the day.
[20:28] <bekks> reisio: http://askubuntu.com/questions/229598/is-the-ubuntu-kernel-100-free-software
[20:28] <buero> That's all I need to know
[20:28] <reisio> buero: it is not 100.0000000000% free
[20:28] <reisio> it's closer to 99.999999999% free
[20:28] <buero> I need fully free
[20:28] <buero> thank you
[20:28] <buero> good bye
[20:28] <reisio> d1323: oh you can just start that with the DE
[20:28] <penguinman> bekks: then again fsf considers "including" to also mean "making available" so take whatever they say with a grain of salt.
[20:28] <StrangeNoises> there are other distros for the purist approach
[20:29] <bekks> That poor guy is stuck with Hurd now.
[20:29] <mozzarella> how do I change the primary display
[20:29] <kostkon> mozzarella, bug 874241
[20:29] <bekks> penguinman: Yeah.
[20:29] <kostkon> mozzarella, you do that in your display settings
[20:29] <mozzarella> it's not the wrong resolution
[20:29] <d1323> reisio, but I will have to start it on every restart, or am I missing something?
[20:29] <kostkon> mozzarella, what then
[20:30] <reisio> d1323: no, it will start whenever your DE starts in that scenario
[20:30] <reisio> d1323: you might also look into xcalib (xcalib -i -a), which inverts colors rather than merely trivially altering your screen's hues
[20:30] <mozzarella> kostkon: the password prompt is on the right display, it's supposed to be on the left one
[20:30] <mozzarella> the two displays are swapped
[20:30] <reisio> d1323: and compiz (what Unity uses) can also invert colors (even per-window)
[20:30] <kostkon> mozzarella, ok
[20:32] <d1323> reisio black->white and vice versa? not sure it would be a good replacement, since this affects everything not just windows. video, photos, etc
[20:32] <penguinman> you know, it's amazing how minimal a DE you really need when you actually give it a try. openbox with 2 dockapps and krunner for a program launcher and I don't really miss anything from the bigger ones.
[20:32] <LukeMaxwell> does anyone know how to optimize ubuntu 14.04 for older systems?
[20:32] <tr0n> http://pastebin.com/1DhT1WJv <- help
[20:32] <LukeMaxwell> my desktop seems to be glitchy
[20:32] <spearson> ok Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/freerdp/libfreerdp1_1.0.2-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb Hash Sum mismatch
[20:32] <StrangeNoises> openbox. ugh, so bloaty! fluxbox!
[20:32] <daftykins> LukeMaxwell: sure, run xubuntu or lubuntu instead - no unity.
[20:33] <StrangeNoises> someone will one-up me in 3-2-1...
[20:33] <tr0n> use a less bloated distro
[20:33] <Darkseid> Greetings..
[20:33] <StrangeNoises> lubuntu is probably the default choice for older machines
[20:33] <penguinman> StrangeNoises: TWM. just saving everyone some trouble.
[20:33] <StrangeNoises> if i get my g4 mac mini back i'll probably be trying that
[20:33] <spearson> when upgrade to 14.04 I get could not download the upgrades Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/freerdp/libfreerdp1_1.0.2-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb Hash Sum mismatch
[20:34] <LukeMaxwell> daftykins: I need a system that is easy to use by the user. it took me several hours to download the ubuntu 14.04 distro yesterday
[20:34] <bekks> spearson: Remove the corrupted file from /var/cache/apt/packages/
[20:34] <StrangeNoises> penguinman: twm actually hurts though. i guess some of us have some *minimal* comfort requirements :-)
[20:34] <spearson> command?
[20:34] <kostkon> mozzarella, open your display settings and drag the right monitor to the left or the other way around or something
[20:34] <bekks> spearson: rm
[20:34] <LukeMaxwell> I was kind of hoping to stick to ubuntu due to how long the download took
[20:34] <tr0n> theres an article on installing ubuntu on a mac in the new issue of full circle magazine
[20:34] <daftykins> LukeMaxwell: it's too graphically demanding for older systems really
[20:34] <StrangeNoises> tr0n: i have ubuntu installed on this here macbook air
[20:34] <StrangeNoises> it's very nice
[20:34] <spearson> so rm /var/cache/apt/packages/ right?
[20:34] <bekks> spearson: No.
[20:34] <spearson> or sudo rm /var/cache/apt/packages/
[20:34] <StrangeNoises> though i'm having trouble with refind as a boot manager
[20:34] <bekks> spearson: No.
[20:34] <Darkseid> At Ubuntu download page has a 64 bit MAC AMD 64 option.. Is it just for mac or can be used in an amd 64 architecture machine?
[20:34] <bekks> spearson: Remove the _corrupted file_ from /var/cache/apt/packages/
[20:35] <LukeMaxwell> daftykins:  What I wanted to know if those settings could be changed
[20:35] <bekks> spearson: Thats not "remove the entire directory".
[20:35] <spearson> how would I do that?
[20:35] <spearson> ok
[20:35] <bekks> spearson: By removing the file mentioned.
[20:35] <StrangeNoises> Darkseid: main thing is, current normal ubuntu image knows UEFI but is confused by Apple's weird EFI implementation
[20:35] <LukeMaxwell> daftykins Like in windows you can change from aero theme back to windows xp theme for better performance
[20:35] <mozzarella> kostkon: as I said, it's fine once I'm logged in
[20:35] <krux> LukeMaxwell: yes many different wm and DE available
[20:35] <spearson> what is the commend to remove the file mentioned?
[20:35] <StrangeNoises> so the mac variant just knows bios, which works for mac efi's bios emulation
[20:35] <spearson> if there is one
[20:35] <bekks> spearson: rm /full/path/to/the/file
[20:36] <LukeMaxwell> krux: what is that?
[20:36] <bekks> spearson: The file is mentioned in your error message, you know the path as well.
[20:36] <StrangeNoises> sudo rm -rf /lib
[20:36] <StrangeNoises> ;-D
[20:36] <bekks> StrangeNoises: Stop that.
[20:36] <bekks> StrangeNoises: NOT funny. Not at all.
[20:36] <spearson> ok so rm libfreerdp1_1.0.2-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[20:36] <bekks> spearson: No.
[20:36] <reisio> d1323: yeah, but it is :)
[20:36] <StrangeNoises> bekks: i did it once. i know. but yeah, actually it is a bit :-D
[20:36] <krux> LukeMaxwell: WM window manager DE Desktop Environment.. your using unity by default but you can change it to others with less memory consumption
[20:36] <bekks> spearson: rm /full/path/to/the/filename
[20:37] <StrangeNoises> someone who copies that in from a stranger on an irc channel won't do it again
[20:37] <Darkseid> StrangeNoises: Means that is just for Apple so?
[20:37] <bekks> StrangeNoises: Which is not funny.
[20:37] <LukeMaxwell> krux: sounds like what I need to do. any suggestions on how to go about it?
[20:37] <bekks> !helpful | StrangeNoises
[20:37] <LukeMaxwell> krux: new to ubuntu but setting it up so my friend can have a working cheap desktop setup
[20:37] <StrangeNoises> (that did nothing)
[20:38] <krux> LukeMaxwell: well there are many choices.. could try lubuntu-desktop ?..
[20:38] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: how old?
[20:38] <OerHeks> or give us some specs, LukeMaxwell
[20:38] <daftykins> LukeMaxwell: to grab lubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop will still involve downloading a fair amount
[20:38] <LukeMaxwell> It's a dell optiplex gx260
[20:38] <krux> i my self usually get openbox and tint2
  what will that command do? i have to ask
[20:38] <LukeMaxwell> daftykins: that's what I want to avoid
[20:39] <StrangeNoises> ralph: it will kill your install, but not instantly
[20:39] <daftykins> LukeMaxwell: you can't.
[20:39] <Darkseid> My hardware: AMD A3500 APU RADEON - 64bit - Should I download regular 64 bit or the 'mac 64 bit amd 64' ---- Looks obvious but I want to clarify...
[20:39] <StrangeNoises> stuff that's already running would probably continue to run, but nothing new could start
[20:39] <spearson> from the window, I don't know what the corrupted file is
[20:39] <StrangeNoises> you will find it hard to recover
[20:39] <ralph> how does it work?
[20:39] <StrangeNoises> but it's not *entirely* impossible
[20:39] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: processor? ram?
[20:39] <Gape> I've been trying to upgrade to 14.04 for hours but I keep getting error "could not calculate the upgrade". main.log shows one error "Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'". I've checked dpkg --get-selections and no package is held (also checked in synapctic). Any ideas what else I could do?
[20:39] <StrangeNoises> deletes the /lib directory which contains the main system libraries
[20:40] <StrangeNoises> and kernel modules
[20:40] <StrangeNoises> it's incredibly destructive
[20:40] <StrangeNoises> don't ever do it
[20:40] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: I am looking up the specs now. one moment
[20:40] <Darkseid> bekks: Can you tell me something?
[20:40] <spearson> how would I file the file that is corrupted to remove it. I know the location from the chat
[20:40] <bekks> Darkseid: Depends on your question.
[20:40] <reisio> it's too bad dell removed hardware info from their site
[20:40] <bekks> spearson: I told you twice.
[20:40] <Darkseid> bekks: My hardware: AMD A3500 APU RADEON - 64bit - Should I download regular 64 bit or the 'mac 64 bit amd 64' ---- Looks obvious but I want to clarify...
[20:40] <bekks> spearson: rm /full/path/to/the/filename
[20:40] <spearson> ok
[20:41] <bekks> Darkseid: 64bit.
 i wont, just curious.
[20:41] <bekks> Darkseid: You dont have a Mac.
[20:41] <d1323> reisio, if I turn f.lux off in the middle of a night I feel like I am staring at a nuclear reactor, it is so bright.
[20:41] <reisio> Darkseid: you'd know if you had a mac, they're covered in apples
[20:41] <mozzarella> guys
[20:41] <Darkseid> bekks: The mac option is really only for apple's..
[20:41] <mozzarella> I just want default grub settings
[20:41] <reisio> d1323: yeah, but inverted colors is even better :)
[20:41] <bekks> Darkseid: Thats why it is called "mac".
[20:41] <tr0n> and it'd be overpriced
[20:41] <reisio> heh
[20:41] <mozzarella> no mauve background
[20:42] <mozzarella> how do I restore the defaults
[20:42] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: I know it only has 1 Gig of ram in it but I am looking to upgrade that in the near future
[20:42] <Darkseid> Very helpful.. I was mistaken..
[20:42] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: processor speed, number of cores, and whether the graphics card is dedicated or onboard
[20:42] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: is there a terminal command to pull up sys info?
[20:43] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: you could pastebinit cat /proc/cpuinfo, free -m, and lspci | grep -i vga
[20:43] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: I know it currently is using the onboard vga port. there is a dvi card in it but he doesn't have a dvi cable atm
[20:43] <tr0n> LukeMaxwell: in system settings click on details
[20:43] <mozzarella> guys
[20:43] <mozzarella> guuuuuuuys
[20:43] <mozzarella> I want the default grub settings
[20:44] <mozzarella> none of that ubuntu stuff
[20:44] <LukeMaxwell> tr0n: doing that now. thanks
[20:44] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: a dedicated gpu will make a big difference
[20:44] <tr0n> er click on the system settings icon and click on details
[20:44] <k1l_> mozzarella: then ask grub what they have for default settings
[20:44] <spearson> so rm /var/cache/apt/packages/ but what is the file name in the packages directory? sorry if I sound stupid
[20:44] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: but you should consider how much time you spend on this, as a brand new computer costs about two day's worth of time (translated into paid work hours)
[20:44] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: money is very tight atm. that's why we focused on getting a cheap 30 dollar desktop off of craigslist from a local college and a monitor for 25. the wifi dongle and keyboard we already had
[20:45] <reisio> and that's just an x86 computer, you can get a little arm box for a fraction of that
[20:45] <reisio> k
[20:45] <tr0n> $30 wouldnt get you a commodore 128
[20:46] <bekks> spearson: libfreerdp1_1.0.2-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb is the filename.
[20:46] <reisio> it'd get you a last gen raspberry pi
[20:46] <d1323> reisio, it isn't just a matter of brightness, blue light suppresses  production of melatonin.  I sleep much better since using this program, so I still  recommend you to try it. :)
[20:46] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: Would it be faster just to get him setup on a raspberry pi running raspbian?
[20:46] <reisio> d1323: don't need it :p
[20:46] <reisio> d1323: another one is 'redshift', though
[20:47] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: mmmm, it shouldn't be, since you only have to setup the software, right?
[20:47] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: but a new raspberry pi could arguablly be superior than a very old x86 desktop
[20:47] <jondavis> does any one know how to set up win 7 on a lenovo B57O
[20:47] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: here are the specs
[20:47] <reisio> for example a raspberry pi can do 1080p video, and the majority of desktop computers still running cannot
[20:47] <tr0n> jondavis: #windows
[20:47] <jondavis> yes
[20:47] <reisio> depends on the application
[20:48] <OerHeks> try ##windows
[20:48] <d1323> yeah I have heard about it. to get back to topic, putting the program into /etc/init.d wouldn't work right? because it has to start when the X is started. I am just curious what unity does behind the scene to make it work
[20:48] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: memory 1000.3 MiB
[20:48] <spearson> sorm /var/cache/apt/packages/libfreerdp1_1.0.2-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb right?
[20:48] <d1323> (to make it start automatically with x server)
[20:48] <jondavis> yes windows 7
[20:48] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: processor Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.00 GHz
[20:48] <tr0n> !ops | jondavis
[20:48] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: Graphics Intel 845G x86/MMX/SSE2
[20:49] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: Disk 77.6 GB
[20:49] <k1l_> tr0n: no need to call the ops trigger :)
[20:49] <tr0n> ;)
[20:49] <tr0n> jondavis is dumb or trolling
[20:49] <IdleOne> tr0n: hardly an emergency
[20:50] <Flannel> jondavis: This channel is for Ubuntu related support, you should ask in ##windows, get there by typing "/join ##windows"
[20:50] <jondavis> no i am not dume or a troll
[20:50] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: no other graphics? number of cores?
[20:50] <spearson> so the command is m /var/cache/apt/packages/libfreerdp1_1.0.2-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb right?
[20:50] <jondavis> i need soem help ok
[20:50] <k1l_> tr0n: please dont fall into insulting. if its trolling the ops will see and help the channel. thanks
[20:50] <IdleOne> jondavis: join ##windows and they can help you install windows
[20:50] <bekks> jondavis: You can find windows support in ##windows
[20:50] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: doesn't say. I'll run those terminal commands one second
[20:50] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: grep -i cores /proc/cpuinfo
[20:51] <LukeMaxwell> kk
[20:51] <reisio> and lspci | grep -i vga
[20:51] <spearson> so the command is rm /var/cache/apt/packages/libfreerdp1_1.0.2-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb to remove the corrupted file right?
[20:51] <ralph> i should come here more often  =]
[20:51] <bekks> spearson: Yes.
[20:52] <spearson> Thanks
[20:52] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: the reason I decided on an old desktop was due to needing an hdmi supporting monitor. those aren't cheap. and an hdmi to vga converters add to the overall cost
[20:54] <spearson> rm: cannot remove ‘/var/cache/apt/packages/libfreerdp1_1.0.2-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb’: No such file or directory
[20:55] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: why'd you need that?
[20:55] <bekks> spearson: Then run: find /var/cache -type f -name libfreerdp1_1.0.2-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[20:55] <bekks> spearson: No. Run this:
[20:55] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: the pi doesn't have hdmi on it
[20:55] <bekks> spearson: find /var/cache/apt/ -type f -name libfreerdp1_1.0.2-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[20:56] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: CPU CORES :1
[20:56] <StrangeNoises> surely if the file's corrupt it'll fail checksums and not install anyway
[20:57] <bekks> spearson: Please keep it in this channel.
[20:57] <spearson> Ok
[20:57] <spearson> It said it is a directory
[20:57] <bekks> spearson: Show us the output of the command I gave you please.
[20:57] <spearson> will do
[20:57] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: VGA Compatible controller: interl corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[20:58] <StrangeNoises> interl?
[20:58] <StrangeNoises> that's not a copypasta :-)
[20:58] <spearson> paste.ubuntu.com/7348070/ here you go
[20:59] <bekks> spearson: Thats not the command I gave you.
[20:59] <StrangeNoises> you're missing the command 'find'
[20:59] <StrangeNoises> that wasn't a general instruction, 'find' was part of the command :-)
[21:02] <spearson> ahhh
[21:03] <mozzarella> guys
[21:03] <mozzarella> how do I log in as root
[21:03] <Bladewolf> Gtg guys
[21:03] <spearson> I put the command in and it just went to a new line in the terminal with output
[21:03] <k1l_> !root | mozzarella
[21:04] <spearson> is that what is supposed to happen?
[21:04] <reisio> ah, quoting the matrix instead of being more accurate :p
[21:04] <mozzarella> k1l_: I need to change his display settings…
[21:04] <StrangeNoises> spearson: yes
[21:04] <spearson> ok
[21:04] <StrangeNoises> that means the file wasn't found underneath /var/cache/apt
[21:04] <k1l_> mozzarella: i doubt that you need a root GUI
[21:04] <StrangeNoises> it's the unix way: no output means everything went well :-)
[21:04] <LukeMaxwell> resi
[21:04] <spearson> what should I do next?
[21:04] <spearson> try the update?
[21:05] <mozzarella> k1l_: how ,then
[21:05] <StrangeNoises> well whatever your problem was, deleting that .deb isn't the solution, because it's already not there
[21:05] <spearson> hmm
[21:05] <k1l_> mozzarella: what are you trying to do?
[21:05] <mozzarella> k1l_: the displays are in the wrong order
[21:05] <mozzarella> JUST before I log in
[21:05] <mozzarella> in the log in screen
[21:06] <daftykins> swap the video cables? ;)
[21:06] <bekks> spearson: Did you find that file?
[21:06] <k1l_> mozzarella: the login screen switches the login window to the one that is used
[21:06] <spearson> it seems that the file doesn't exist
[21:06] <LukeMaxwell> where did reisio go?
[21:08] <bekks> spearson: then run: find /var/cache/apt -type -f -iname "libfreerdp1_1.0.2-2ubuntu1_amd64*" and give us the output in a pastebin please.
[21:09] <spearson> the command is then run: find /var/cache/apt -type -f -iname "libfreerdp1_1.0.2-2ubuntu1_amd64* right
[21:09] <bekks> spearson: Is that the command I gave you?
[21:11] <mozzarella> k1l_: yes… but when I move my cursor to the right it goes on the left display, which means they're not in the right order…
[21:11] <mozzarella> should be a trivial thing to do
[21:11] <spearson> It looks like its the command
[21:12] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: hey you still there?
[21:12] <bekks> spearson: Then run it.
[21:13] <jay> evening guys. having a bit of trouble getting wubi on usb to load.. i get "ubuntu" screen and its continuously loading. any suggestions?
[21:13] <k1l_> jay: don tuse wubi anymore
[21:14] <Darkseid> The latest packages from kde-backports supports trusty?
[21:14] <k1l_> jay: it got lots of problems. better use a live system(cd usb-drive) or make a real install
[21:14] <jay> well i just followed the how to get usb ubuntu working
[21:14] <jay> i think thats what i did
[21:14] <jay> i just may not be savvy enough to be saying what i am meaning.
[21:14] <mozzarella> holyshit guys
[21:14] <mozzarella> the clock is gone
[21:14] <jkoudys> I'm setting up a 14.04 node on Rackspace. It's complaining trying to apt-get hhvm, saying "Depends: libboost-filesystem1.53.0 but it is not installable", along with a bunch of other libboost packages. Is there a software source I'm missing here, and how would I find it?
[21:15] <bekks> Darkseid: Just browse the repo.
[21:15] <k1l_> jay: yes, but wubi is "install ubuntu into the windows partition and mix that all together". use a live system or make a real install into real partitions. not the windows one
[21:15] <spearson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7348156/
[21:16] <mozzarella> http://i.imgur.com/WgJ5iRb.png
[21:16] <mozzarella> what's happening guys?
[21:16] <bekks> spearson: find /var/cache/apt -type f -iname "libfreerdp1_1.0.2-2ubuntu1_amd64*" and give us the output in a pastebin please.
[21:16] <spearson> Thanks
[21:17] <jay> i used windows to get the 14.04 repository iso, then used the usb creation tool to create the usb stick and restarted. it worked on my lappie fine but my desktop its just dot dot dot dot dot in constant loading
[21:17] <Darkseid> bekks: I think is most plausible if I install directly kubuntu instead ubuntu and install kde... By other hand, I wont see the new resources at the new release... What dilemma...
[21:17] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: no, raspberry pis do have hdmi
[21:17] <mozzarella> guys how do I bring the clock back
[21:17] <bekks> Darkseid: How is that related to browsing the named repo to see wether it supports trusty or not?
[21:17] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: yeah it's a little underpowered, by Unity should run alright on it, if it does at all
[21:17] <LukeMaxwell> i know and hdmi monitors are more expensive reisio
[21:18] <LukeMaxwell> that's why i opted for a desktop setup reisio
[21:18] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: I don't see how the two are related
[21:18] <reisio> anyways
[21:18] <spearson> Here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/7348177/
[21:18] <reisio> it'll probably work alright, and if it doesn't then try xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop
[21:18] <Darkseid> bekks: I'm just wondering the installation of another environment..
[21:18] <rosentrotter> Hi, im running 12.04 LTS should I upgrade to 14.04 LTS?
[21:18] <bekks> Darkseid: And why dont you just browse the repo then?
[21:19] <bekks> spearson: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/libfreerdp1_1.0.2-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb.FAILED
[21:19] <Darkseid> hehe..
[21:19] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: It seems glitchy  running on it though. programs take a while to slowly fade away when I click close
[21:19] <Beldar> rosentrotter, The official LTS is july 24th or so
[21:19] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: okay, then the graphics hardware isn't up to snuff
[21:19] <clue_h> mozzarella, what does   dpkg -l | grep indicator-datetime    say
[21:19] <mozzarella> rosentrotter: what do you mean
[21:19] <bekks> Beldar: The 14.04 LTS was released at April 17.
[21:20] <mozzarella> I thought 14.04 was LTS
[21:20] <spearson> ran command and entered password and it came up with a new line
[21:20] <Zooklubba> Weechat in gnome terminal, I have bell in preferences for gnome germinal. But I still dont hear any pings/highlights. I have really googled like crazy for this. Please help
[21:20] <rosentrotter> Beldar: whats the risk, will all of my programs still work?
[21:20] <spearson> so should I rerun the update to 14.04?
[21:20] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: if you're attached to unity, I believe you can still get unity 2d (unaccelerated) from a ppa
[21:20] <bekks> rosentrotter: Just wait for 14.04.1 and you will be able to update.
[21:20] <mozzarella> bekks: sorry, I restarted my computer
[21:20] <Beldar> bekks, Isn;t the official upgrade LTS to LTS in July?
[21:20] <bekks> spearson: Yes.
[21:20] <spearson> OK
[21:20] <LukeMaxwell> what's the command for that? reisio
[21:20] <gac> Beldar: I did 12.04 LTS to 14.04 on release day
[21:20] <rosentrotter> bekks: why cant I do it now
[21:20] <bekks> Beldar: The official LTS release date was April 17.
[21:20] <Bashing-om> jay: The desktop with Windows, is that Windows 8 ? .. WUBI will not work in Windows 8, main reason it is no longer supported ( UEFI, that is).
[21:20] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: I have turned off any animation settings that I can seem to find so far
[21:21] <spearson> Do you recommend the upgrade to 14.04?
[21:21] <bekks> rosentrotter: Because that option will be available with the release of 14.04.1
[21:21] <bekks> spearson: Which release are you on?
[21:21] <spearson> 13.10
[21:21] <jay> Bashing-om, yes but like i said it worked 100% with my lapppie, so i knopw the stick is good
[21:21] <rAg3> i am getting error ata6 exception emask while installing ubuntu or ubuntu gnome, what do i do ?
[21:21] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: doesn't matter, the actual software controlling the windows is accelerated 100% of the time
[21:21] <Beldar> I know 14.04 release I was running it before it was a dev, however I have see all over this channel the official is in july
[21:21] <bekks> spearson: Until July, you have to update.
[21:21] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: you have to replace it with another wm to get a proper benefit
[21:22] <spearson> so you recommend that I upgrade now right?
[21:22] <rosentrotter> bekks, Beldar: whats the risk? Ive been looking forward to the new feats
[21:22] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: does this involve another download or something that can be changed via terminal?
[21:22] <bekks> Beldar: No. The official was Aptil 17. The update option from 12.04 to 14.04 will be available with 14.04.1
[21:22] <Beldar> rosentrotter, I don't care what you do, I was just passing the rhetoric. ;)
[21:23] <Beldar> bekks, lol the syntax of upgrade or update, geez.
[21:23] <spearson> so you recommend that I upgrade now right?
[21:23] <rosentrotter> Beldar: ok, I just see all over the forums that its unstable and I dont understand what that means
[21:23] <Beldar> what an ass
[21:23] <Bashing-om> jay: The stick is not the factor, it is how the system boots, UIEFI and a WUBI install -> not supported.
[21:24] <bekks> Beldar: Its not the syntax. The official release date was April 17. Thats the point. And watch your language please.
[21:24] <keevitaja> hi, which dictionary is retext using for spellchecking?
[21:24] <jay> Bashing-om, im trying to ditch 8.. :(
[21:25] <Beldar> rosentrotter, That means people have opinions, forming your own is more reliable.
[21:25] <k1l_> Beldar: the LTS to LTS (12.04 to 14.04) upgrade will be opened in july. when 14.04.1 will get released. please let the language not escalate in here
[21:25] <duckbilled> hello ubuntu community, when I asked this earlier, I had the answer that it wouldn't work. but I wanna make sure if there is really no way; the question is whether I can somehow make itunes work on ubuntu.
[21:26] <bekks> duckbilled: No.
[21:26] <k1l_> rosentrotter: if you want a stable LTS relase wait for 14.04 to be settled. the official LTS to LTS upgraade will be opened in july when 14.04.1 will be released
[21:26] <Bashing-om> jay: If it is surely your intnt to install wubi - there are other options - but, but what you might consider doing is convert Windows 8 from UEFI to the conventional msdos partitioning scheme .. Not at all what I would do or recommend. Just it can be done.
[21:26] <les> duckbilled: virtualbox vm with windows/macos x and intues installed in it
[21:26] <rosentrotter> Beldar: lol alright ill see what happens
[21:26] <rosentrotter> duckbilled: no
[21:26] <duckbilled> les, is it difficult to install a virtual box?
[21:27] <duckbilled> I never did that
[21:27] <Beldar> k1l_, easily done that is what ignore is for. ;)
[21:27] <reisio> duckbilled: yes you can run it virtualized, for example in VirtualBox
[21:27] <jay> Bashing-om, thanks for the info i'll poke and prod and see if i can force fit this thing together.. cutting torches and welding gear is in my arsenal it will happpen.
[21:27] <clue_h> duckbilled, i've used tunesviewer, but it does not replicate itunes, it's good for podcasts for itunes u
[21:27] <rAg3> i am getting error ata6 exception emask while installing ubuntu or ubuntu gnome, what do i do ?
[21:27] <bekks> duckbilled: That approach will not enable you to use the recovery mode of iDevices.
[21:27] <reisio> duckbilled: also via Wine under certain circumstancess
[21:27] <reisio> duckbilled: it's best to just replace the app, though
[21:27] <reisio> there are plenty of native packages that work with Apple iPhoo apps
[21:28] <reisio> and there are plenty of other online music stores, most superior to itunes
[21:28] <rosentrotter> duckbilled: even if you made a mac VM you wouldnt be able to use the usb...i think
[21:28] <reisio> no you can use the usb
[21:28] <bekks> rosentrotter: Which is wrong :)
[21:28] <reisio> it's just not worth it
[21:28] <bekks> rosentrotter: you can use the usb, but not the recovery mode of iDevices.
[21:28] <Bashing-om> jay: Be aware, if it were easy, WUBI would still be supported. WUBI has been around a long time, UEFI is it's demise.
[21:28] <reisio> honestly the very best approach is to get rid of your iPhoo and buy something that works as a generic usb mass storage device
[21:28] <reisio> you will be happier in the long run
[21:28] <ben_xyzzy> duckbilled, reisio: wine seems to do a poorish job of iTunes: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
[21:28] <duckbilled> reisio, is there a native package that can be used to add-remove songs?
[21:29] <reisio> duckbilled: yup, one comes with Ubuntu IME
[21:29] <reisio> rhythmbox, number of others, IIRC
[21:29] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: does this involve another download or something that can be changed via terminal?
[21:29] <reisio> LukeMaxwell: this being...?
[21:29] <duckbilled> ben_xyzzy, I was also told last time that wine didnt make it work
[21:29] <jondavis> it seem no one want to really help me out on trying to restalling win 7
[21:29] <reisio> duckbilled: it's trickier to use wine
[21:29] <jondavis> soem one please help me
[21:29] <reisio> but it's a waste of time regardless
[21:29] <jondavis> any body
[21:29] <bekks> duckbilled: Which is basically correct.
[21:29] <LukeMaxwell> reisio: changing the wm on ubuntu
[21:30] <MavBlue> hello
[21:30] <duckbilled> reisio, forgive my ignorance, what is IME ?
[21:30] <reisio> the time required to replace your iPhoo device with a non-vendor-locked alternative hardware device is ALWAYS going to be less than the time it'll take you to get iTunes working "flawlessly" outside of Mac OS
[21:30] <jay> Bashing-om, did i not say cutting torches and welding supplies :P thanks for the info guys i'll pop later and see how its going
[21:30] <reisio> duckbilled: in my experience: IME
[21:30] <ben_xyzzy> duckbilled: If it's just about the iphone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[21:30] <duckbilled> reisio, thanks :)
[21:30] <duckbilled> ben_xyzzy, it is ipod, actually
[21:31] <reisio> if you want an excessively shiny portable audio player, that is also not absurd, try http://www.cowonglobal.com/
[21:31] <Bashing-om> jay: OK, Have fun ! It is all a learning experience.
[21:31] <reisio> if you just want one that's not absurd, go to walmart and get the cheapest you can find
[21:31] <kostkon> duckbilled, what model
[21:31] <ben_xyzzy> ben_xyzzy: link says ipod too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[21:31] <ben_xyzzy> duckbilled: ^
[21:31] <MavBlue> I have a general linux question. Say I have a harddrive showing prefail in SMART, taken from a PC with a bad motherboard. WD's extended test recovered some errors, and it doesn't seem to be having any problems now.
[21:32] <duckbilled> I'm not looking to buy a player
[21:32] <bekks> MavBlue: "prefail" will not magically disappear.
[21:32] <MavBlue> I suspect the controller was sending corrupted data and the prefail is false, what's the best utility to re-test the whole drive for bad sectors?
[21:32] <MavBlue> no, I mean the diagnostic isn't finding any errors
[21:32] <bekks> MavBlue: you can run an extended offline selftest using smartctl
[21:32] <rAg3> i am getting error ata6 exception emask while installing ubuntu or ubuntu gnome, what do i do ?
[21:32] <duckbilled> clue_h, is it possible to add-remove songs with tunesviewer?
[21:33] <creature> Okay. How the Hell do I configure my laptop fan on Ubuntu?
[21:34] <kostkon> duckbilled, what model is the ipod
[21:34] <reisio> creature: depends on the laptop, but having laptop-mode-tools installed and running is a start
[21:34] <clue_h> duckbilled, i never used it that way so i wouldnt know, i used it for podcasts and itunes u, it's not quite the same so it may not be what you want. perhaps worth a try though.
[21:34] <rAg3> please help with my problem anyone ?
[21:34] <kostkon> !patience | rAg3
[21:36] <MavBlue> @bekks any idea which flags to use off-hand?
[21:36] <duckbilled> clue_h, I'll try
[21:38] <bekks> MavBlue: No, but it is well documented in the man page for smartctl
[21:38] <_1_Ebola_86> Hello.
[21:39] <reisio> 'lo
[21:39] <reisio> rAg3: ?
[21:39] <rAg3> reisio, hi
[21:40] <_1_Ebola_86> Does anyone know if Ubuntu 14.04 may have a problem reading a 1980s hard drive? Or is my drive dead?
[21:40] <k1l_> _1_Ebola_86: make sure the drive is physicaly working
[21:41] <spearson> update failed again with Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/freerdp/libfreerdp1_1.0.2-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb Hash Sum mismatch
[21:42] <MavBlue> @beks alright, I think I found what I need, thanks  :)
[21:42] <spearson> seems like its the same as before hmmm
[21:42] <Martita> how uninstall "amazon app"???
[21:43] <clue_h> What amazon app?
[21:43] <willwh> Martita: if you mean the Aamzon search results?
[21:43] <willwh> in unity's search
[21:44] <rAg3> reisio, i am getting error ata6 exception emask while installing ubuntu or ubuntu gnome, what do i do ?
[21:44] <willwh> I think it's System Settings > Search
[21:44] <willwh> Martita:
[21:45] <Martita> when i open menu os apps, i can see "amazon app"
[21:45] <clue_h> System settings > security and privacy > include online results - off | on
[21:46] <clue_h> under search*
[21:49] <creature> How am I supposed to manage services for my laptop these days? Like, if I want to stop something running at boot, where do I configure that?
[21:50] <duckbilled> clue_h, I'
[21:50] <clue_h> duckbilled, hello
[21:50] <duckbilled> sorry...clue_h, I'm still in the install process..it is asking me to
[21:50] <duckbilled> add this command: "dpkg -i -R /path/to/dir/name/with/lots/of/dot-deb-files/"
[21:51] <duckbilled> which path should this be?
[21:51] <td0s> creature - init scripts
[21:51] <purge> #ubuntu
[21:51] <_1_Ebola_86> My garbage IRC client kicked me out of the room. Did anyone reply to my question about the 1980s hard drive?
[21:51] <clue_h> duckbilled, whats the full request
[21:51] <creature> td0s: I thought they were deprecated around 6 versions back?
[21:51] <Beldar> creature, depends on what it is you want to stop, be specific here.
[21:51] <clue_h> its asking you to install to a directory duckbilled
[21:52] <creature> I have a utility, i8kmon, that argues with my laptop's BIOS fan control.
[21:52] <clue_h> is it*
[21:52] <duckbilled> clue_h, I'm following the install instructions, and this is the third command to be applied. so I create a directory and name it for the install.
[21:52] <k1l_> _1_Ebola_86: make sure the drive is physicaly working
[21:53] <td0s> Nah /etc/init.d still has lots of stuff for user space I think
[21:53] <duckbilled> is it?
[21:53] <clue_h> duckbilled, that command will install all the debs in a directory, ja
[21:53] <clue_h> if youre happy with doing that with a program that is not in official repos
[21:53] <duckbilled> clue_h, I see, thank you heaps for letting me know
[21:56] <clue_h> correction, it is.
[21:56] <Cizzle> Hi, since changing to 14.04 I'm having problems with my df output
[21:57] <benzrf> hey
[21:57] <duckbilled> clue_h, I applied the first two commands here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7348367/  and I get this error when I applied the third command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7348358/   might you have a suggestion for what to do here?
[21:57] <Cizzle> it's not showing the device-mounts anymore, but instead shows some binded mounts
[21:57] <benzrf> since i updated to tahr, ctrl+q stopped being blocked by my custom keybind
[21:58] <jjavaholic> !trusty
[21:58] <clue_h> duckbilled, it is actually there. sudo apt-get install tunesviewer. did you do that
[21:58] <benzrf> i formerly had it bound to doing nothing; now it *usually* does nothing, but will quit if i hold it down for a second or two
[21:58] <duckbilled> clue_h, no i didn't. I thought I had to follow and complete the dpkg commands I posted above.
[21:58] <clue_h> duckbilled, try the apt way
[21:59] <duckbilled> clue_h, ok
[21:59] <duckbilled> clue_h, it says it is already installed
[22:00] <Bashing-om> Cizzle: I don't have a clue what might be, but for all to see, pastbin the output of the df command.
[22:01] <spearson> Can anyone help
[22:01] <duckbilled> clue_h, the software is there, will try if it works with add-remove songs
[22:01] <clue_h> duckbilled, ok :]
[22:02] <spearson> I gotta run will connect back in a few hours
[22:04] <creature> Is there some way I can customise the colour of the active window's title bar in Unity?
[22:09] <fpghost84> Hi, I just tried to upgrade 13.10 to 14.04, and after an hour 30mins I got the error that it failed and would fallback, nevertheless on reboot I appear to be in 14.04 without too many obvious problems. However if I attempt to complete the upgrade with "sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade" I get a host of errors :http://paste.ubuntu.com/7348447/. How can I complete the upgrade and fix this?
[22:09] <reisio> creature: yup
[22:10] <daftykins> fpghost84: it's "sudo apt-get -f install" you want, not that
[22:10] <fpghost84> (I was using the proprietary fglrx in 13.10 (without issue))
[22:10] <daftykins> fpghost84: you're going to want to remove and reinstall fglrx
[22:10] <Cizzle> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/KaX6rW5X ; normally it shows the /dev/sdb1 being mounted on /home/cip/web
[22:10] <creature> reisio: I'd be much obliged if you could tell me how.
[22:11] <Cizzle> mount -l shows the mounts correctly
[22:11] <thurstylark2> So, I just upgraded to 14.04. Has my bash config moved? I wanted to edit an alias, and I'm not sure where it is...
[22:11] <fpghost84> daftykins: ok, the install command didn't seem to do much, except "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed.....", and for removing fglrx I tried "sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*"
[22:11] <Bashing-om> Cizzle: Look'n at /KaX6rW5X .
[22:12] <reisio> creature: https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+unity+customize+titlebar+color
[22:12] <fpghost84> and I got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7348464/
[22:12] <reisio> thurstylark2: an alis you had in your ~/.bashrc ?
[22:12] <reisio> alias*
[22:12] <creature> reisio: Thanks, but I've been Googling for this for around 30 minutes now without much luck. I'd appreciate some more first-hand help.
[22:13] <thurstylark2> reisio yep
[22:13] <daftykins> fpghost84: ok that sounds like things aren't too bad then. yeah that's not going to work to uninstall, can you try "dpkg -l | grep fglrx" ?
[22:13] <reisio> creature: when you have a specific problem implementing a specific approach
[22:13] <reisio> thurstylark2: and it's not in ~/.bashrc now?
[22:13] <fpghost84> daftykins: that gives: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7348472/
[22:14] <creature> reisio: Sorry, I didn't understand that.
[22:14] <rww> daftykins: fglrx* didn't work because they have a bunch of .deb files in their current working directory and bash expanded it to their filenames
[22:14] <thurstylark2> reisio waaait a second. I was looking for a directory instead of a file. Brain derp. thanks
[22:14] <rww> oh, you probably noticed this. I redirect it to fpghost84 then :)
[22:15] <fpghost84> rww: ah you are right, I tried it from another dir, and looks promising
[22:15] <daftykins> rww: i'm actually unsure how best to proceed with fpghost84 on this one - would attempting to run the uninstall script still be good? i was going to ask if /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh exists still, though i know an error of its' output is what came in the first pastebin shared
[22:16] <Latrina> hello folks.. a quick question .. is this the heartbleed patched version of openssl ?? Depends: libc6 (>= 2.15), libssl1.0.0 (>= 1.0.1)
[22:16] <daftykins> !sslbug | Latrina
[22:16] <rww> daftykins: it sounds like the error was caused by /etc/ati/ not existing, so I would mkdir that and see what happens, personally
[22:16] <daftykins> rww: agreed, thanks
[22:16] <daftykins> fpghost84: did you follow that? "sudo mkdir /etc/ati && sudo /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh"
[22:16] <Latrina> thanks daftykins
[22:16] <duckbilled> clue_h, tunesviewer seems not related to players, more for downloading
[22:17] <duckbilled> is there any format, i.e. on audacity, that I can convert songs to, so that they can be played on an ipod?
[22:17] <rww> daftykins: well, I'd probably do the mkdir and then do the package removal, but that's mainly because i have no idea what fglrx-uninstall.sh does :\
[22:17] <clue_h> mp3?
[22:17] <daftykins> rww: ^_^
[22:17] <fpghost84> daftykins, rww: sorry, I kind of jumped the gun here perhaps, and ran "cd ~;sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*" This seems to know do a lot of stuff appearing to remove lots of fglrx related files. I then did "dpkg -l fglrx" and now no packages match. Not sure if this was the right thing to do?
[22:18] <rww> fpghost84: sounds good to me :)
[22:18] <kostkon> duckbilled, ipods can play mp3 files just fine
[22:18] <Bashing-om> Cizzle: "/home/cip/web 732214300  255342340  476871960  35% /home/joy/control/users/cip/web" is different, pastbin -> cat /etc/fstab <- to see how it is being mounted.
[22:18] <daftykins> fpghost84: yeah sounds good, wanna try a final "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to confirm things are happy?
[22:18] <duckbilled> clue_h, I already have them as mp3, but they cant be played. I dont understand, because as far as I can remember this was possible some time ago (it's been a while since I didnt use the player)
[22:19] <duckbilled> I mean, since I used the player
[22:19] <daftykins> duckbilled: how are you putting them on the device?
[22:19] <clue_h> duckbilled, thats news to me too, i thought they were drm free, as mp3. etc
[22:19] <fpghost84> daftykins: yeah looks healthy!! thanks. It keeps prompting me to autoremove a lot of python packages, would this be a safe thing to do?
[22:19] <Cizzle> Bashing-om: you mean /etc/mtab? cause that disk and the binded mounts aren't listed in my fstab
[22:19] <daftykins> fpghost84: safer to keep i'd say, no harm in them being there :)
[22:20] <fpghost84> daftykins: ok, guess so
[22:20] <fpghost84> daftykins: I just need to get fglrx reinstalled now!
[22:20] <daftykins> fpghost84: usually such a message means nothing depends on them anymore though, so an autoremove would be fine to do i'd say
[22:20] <daftykins> fpghost84: :) indeed - with building for trusty now \o/
[22:21] <creature> Is there some way I can customise the colour of the active window's title bar in Unity?
[22:21] <Bashing-om> Cizzle: Now that is unexpected, is your home on it's own partition or as a symbolic link from the standard install ? But yeah, we can also look at what mtab has to relate.
[22:22] <duckbilled> daftykins, I think earlier it was as simple as used copy-pasting them between folders. now I cant do that.
[22:22] <daftykins> duckbilled: what kind of iPod?
[22:22] <daftykins> duckbilled: the full size ones have always required a full program to create the right database entries etc.
[22:22] <kostkon> duckbilled, which ipod is it
[22:22] <duckbilled> daftykins, I dont know, an old one, it was a present, never checked it
[22:23] <daftykins> duckbilled: what... i'm just asking what kind it is :)
[22:23] <kostkon> duckbilled, you could try with rhythmbox, or gtkpod or in my case floola
[22:24] <daftykins> duckbilled: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/IPod_family.png/800px-IPod_family.png ?
[22:24] <kostkon> duckbilled, i have a 5.5gen ipod
[22:24] <kostkon> ipod video*
[22:24] <kostkon> daftykins, all those are new
[22:25] <daftykins> kostkon: gotta start somewhere.
[22:25] <kostkon> daftykins, yes
[22:25] <daftykins> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Various_iPods.jpg/450px-Various_iPods.jpg
[22:25] <daftykins> have that one too then
[22:25] <kostkon> here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_iPod_models
[22:27] <ralph> can anyone here recommend a great program or script for bandwidth monitoring and intrusion detection, packet monitoring etc? been using bmon. any other recommendations? thanks in advance  currently running ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[22:27] <Cizzle> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/qihGNWzt ; home is on sda2, no symlinks, these mounts are done from a script
[22:27] <duckbilled> when I connect the device, its folders and song contents can be shown, and I can copy mp3 songs there. but the songs are not played. and the songs that are played (converted earlier) are of m4a format. I just converted a song to this format using audacity, and will check if it helps.
[22:28] <Bashing-om> Cizzle: look'n at qihGNWzt.
[22:28] <daftykins> duckbilled: you are not answering the question we're asking, the question is designed to make it easier for us to help, please address it first
[22:28] <clue_h> ralph, tripwire, snort
[22:29] <kostkon> duckbilled, no it does not work like that for ipods. It gets mounted yes, and you can use it as a file storage device if you like, but you have to use a specialised app to copy music to it because ipods store their song list in encrypted db files
[22:30] <fpghost84> daftykins: so just to double check on the fglrx install. I should use the 14.10 version from proprietary website (with --buildpkg Ubuntu/saucy to get the debs anyway)? or I should use some older version from repos? If I recall correctly, when I installed the amd website version in 13.10 it wasn't officially supported, and needed a patch to install but then worked superbly. What is the advice for 14.04?
[22:30] <kostkon> duckbilled, try with rhythmbox, it shoudl work.
 thanks i will give them a shot  =]
[22:31] <daftykins> fpghost84: no, you're in 14.04 now so that's Ubuntu/trusty - i'm not sure what they offer so you might have to have a hunt for a good guide for use with trusty
[22:31] <buero> Where can I buy a tablet with Ubuntu pre-installed?
[22:31] <fpghost84> fpghost84: yeah, but unfortunately they don't support trusty yet, at least officially
[22:32] <fpghost84> but it might not be a prob as they didnt officially support saucy either and that worked well with install patch, oh well I guess some trial and error
[22:32] <buero> Is their any tablets that I can buy with Ubuntu OS pre-installed?
[22:32] <kostkon> buero, not yet
[22:33] <rww> fpghost84: You should use the version in the repositories. The installer packages from AMD's site have issues, as you discovered during your release upgrade.
[22:33] <reisio> buero: pretty sure, check the hardware list on ubuntu.com
[22:33] <buero> How long till I can buy one?
[22:33] <rww> fpghost84: and the only ones we technically support here are the ones in the repos
[22:33] <Beldar> buero, System76
[22:33] <les> Beldar: system76 doesn't sell tablets.
[22:33] <k1l_> buero: please ask that in #ubuntu-touch or canonical
[22:33] <buero> sorry
[22:33] <buero> thanks though
[22:33] <rww> I'd just get a Nexus 7 and flash it, it's literally one command and not hard to do at all.
[22:33] <fpghost84> rww, yeah, maybe things have moved on in the repos by now, but I had no choice last time I tried, since my card is pretty new and the repo version did not work well with it.....maybe things are different now..
[22:34] <rww> fpghost84: ah, I see. Well, I'd start with the repo one and see how it goes.
[22:34] <Bashing-om> Cizzle: OK, We have a 'device' -> /home/cip/web ; mounting to the "file system" @ -> /home/joy/control/users/cip/web. So I assume you have set up network access (??).
[22:35] <Cizzle> Bashing-om: no, it's a binded mount
[22:35] <rAg3> i am getting error ata6 exception emask while installing ubuntu or ubuntu gnome, what do i do ?
[22:36] <Cizzle> you know, mount --bind /some/dir /some/other/dir
[22:36] <Bashing-om> Cizzle: To what purpose ? is the bind mount made ?
[22:36] <fpghost84> rww: silly question, but how to actually install the repo version,the guide says via additional drivers, but hasn't that been scrapped now?
[22:37] <Beldar> les, Yeah,
[22:37] <rww> fpghost84: I believe it's merged into Software Sources now. not sure though, as I don't have either installed.
[22:38] <rww> fpghost84: try searching in Dash for "drivers", and if not that "sources"
[22:38] <chromie> I've installed trusty, and when I copy files from an internal HD to a USB HD I'm noticing that my load is maxed.  Can someone point me in the right direction on how to troubleshoot and correct this?
[22:38] <fpghost84> yep it's in software sources, thanks
[22:38] <Cizzle> Bashing-om: I don't see how that's relevant but, it's to work with chroots
[22:39] <hacyard> it didn't work with m4a, either. but trying gtkpod now
[22:43] <JonnyDamnnox> hey
[22:43] <reisio> heyo
[22:44] <Darkseid> what the hell is up...
[22:44] <JonnyDamnnox> I can't access a folder in /root/bin/folder but it is found via the found / comment and the name of the folder has a space in it and I tried "blabla" and bla\bla/ ect
[22:44] <chromie> hi
[22:44] <Bashing-om> Cizzle: I do not see the problem with binding the contents of one location to that of another, what is the reason for concern once more ?
[22:44] <skinux> Is there a command to make 'ls' output scroll the same way man pages or 'more' output does?
[22:45] <Cizzle> Bashing-om: that the "df" output doesn't show the line with the mount of /dev/sdb2 on /home/cip/web
[22:46] <Cizzle> prior to 14.04 "df" only showed real devices on their mountpoints whereas since 14.04 it shows the binded mount and hides the real device
[22:47] <rww> skinux: ls | less
[22:48] <skinux> Thanks. I feel kind of dumb now.
[22:48] <Bashing-om> Cizzle: HUH ? But sdb2 does not show to be mounted . lemme have a tic to check what results in my system when I mount another partition.
[22:48] <fenixfunk> skinux, also check this out: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/
[22:48] <Cizzle> Bashing-om: sorry I meant sdb1
[22:48] <fenixfunk> i reference it often
[22:50] <chromie> Is there a way I can prevent the load from maxing out whilst copy files in 14.04?
[22:50] <JonnyDamnnox> helloow, I can't access a folder located at /root/bin/myfolder , the name has a space in it, and the folder is found via the find command but the folder isn't displayed via ls command DAFUG is wrong? I tried "blabla" and "bl/ab\bla" ect didn't work
[22:50] <skinux> What exactly is Ubuntu Cloud Server?
[22:51] <k1l_> JonnyDamnnox: you need to escape that. /this/is/a/path\ with\ spaces
[22:51] <k1l_> JonnyDamnnox: and you should use tab-completion :)
[22:51] <skinux> Simply Ubuntu Server pre-configured for use in 'cloud' hosting??
[22:51] <JonnyDamnnox> but why isn't the name not displayed via the ls command?
[22:51] <Bashing-om> Cizzle: Device 'sdb1' also does not show to be mounted at that time. If you were to mount 'sdb1' then it would appear in the 'df' output.
[22:51] <JonnyDamnnox> tab doesn't work
[22:51] <JonnyDamnnox> :/
[22:51] <k1l_> JonnyDamnnox: use ls -a to see all files
[22:52] <Cizzle> Bashing-om: looking at mtab it does show to be mounted --> "/dev/sdb1 /home/cip/web ext4 rw 0 0"
[22:52] <skinux> chromie: Exactly what is does 'load' mean? RIght now my load is 1.54
[22:52] <JonnyDamnnox> gee also not displayed
[22:52] <Cizzle> Bashing-om: "df -a" and "mount" show it mounted as well
[22:52] <duckbilled> it worked with gtkpod!! kostkon, clue_h, daftykins, thank you very very much!
[22:53] <duckbilled> you can simply upload mp3 and it plays
[22:53] <clue_h> nice
[22:53] <Bashing-om> Cizzle: Yeah, I did just now look.. yeah, something is nnot making sense. I did expect it to show in the 'df' output. look'n again.
[22:53] <daftykins> 'upload' is over an internet connection, 'transfer' is for local devices.
[22:53] <JonnyDamnnox> hhm
[22:53] <JonnyDamnnox> ls /root/bin also works
[22:53] <JonnyDamnnox> OHHH
[22:54] <Robbilie_> anyone here who could answer me a ubuntu gnome related question? theres noone answering over there
[22:54] <reisio> Robbilie_: nope, but lots of people here could
[22:54] <chromie> When I run "uptime" it states my average load is 2.19.  I am currently using a dual core processor.  This tends to occur when I'm copying large amounts of data to other hard drives.
[22:54] <Robbilie_> ubuntu gnome: by upgrading without pruging the gnome ppa i keep my details tab saying im running 13.10 ubuntu, any way to change it now, afterwards?
[22:55] <JonnyDamnnox> and when I cd into /root/bin it does nothing, I stay in the same directory
[22:55] <k1l_> chromie: copy over usb?
[22:55] <chromie> My system can become sluggish until the copying is completed.  I was how I would go about correcting this issue.
[22:55] <duckbilled> ben_xyzzy, reisio, bekks, thank you very much! just tried gtkpod, it works just fine!
[22:55] <chromie> Yes I was copying from an internal drive to a usb drive
[22:55] <rww> chromie: is the USB drive using NTFS?
[22:56] <chromie> No ext4
[22:56] <chromie> all drives are ext4
[22:57] <duckbilled> thank you for your help everyone, time for bed, good night!
[22:57] <k1l_> chromie: yes, coping to usb is a blocker
[22:57] <mauricio> hk
[22:57] <chromie> I see.  Thanks I really appreciate it.
[22:57] <Bashing-om> Cizzle: I maybe out in left field, but I see df "/home/cip/web" to be same same as mtab's "/dev/sdb1" [/home/cip/web ext4 rw 0 0] such that the bind is to the other location.
[22:58] <chromie> Now for a really dumb question.  How does one reply to a user in IRC?
[22:58] <reisio> chromie: start typing the start of their nick, then hit TAB
[22:58] <Beldar> Robbilie_, I'm in 14.10 shows 13.10 here to, hehe.
[22:59] <chromie> reisio, got it!  Thanks
[22:59] <Robbilie_> Beldar, u dont care...? :D
[22:59] <Beldar> Robbilie_, Never looked.
[22:59] <reisio> :p
[22:59] <Robbilie_> it seems that my gnome theme is also not correct
[22:59] <Robbilie_> there are margins where none should be
[22:59] <Robbilie_> thats what i find annoying xD
[22:59] <chromie> Thank you
[23:00] <Robbilie_> i just installed budgie desktop if this rings a bell :)
[23:02] <d1323> what vnc server do most people use?
[23:02] <Cizzle> Bashing-om: yes, and "df /dev/sdb1" shows it as well, but "df" is still flawed
[23:02] <owen1>  i want to modify the default app that is used for videos and also for images. what's the <name> i should look for in update-alternatives command?
[23:04] <loa> are udev rules working under ubuntu?
[23:04] <loa> i am trying to make rule on my usb device is connected, device is xbox gamepad.
[23:05] <Bashing-om> Cizzle: Sorry, this is out of my pay grade, I do not have the ability to explain the difference.
[23:06] <Cizzle> Bashing-om: ok, thanks for the effort, checking if it occurs in gnu's coreutils as well to see if I should address them and where to file a bugreport then
[23:07] <Bashing-om> Cizzle: No effort here, no blood lost, some day I too may know more.
[23:13] <mzaza> !assembly
[23:14] <mzaza> Assembly related questions room, anyone know of any?
[23:14] <Jordan_U> !alis | mzaza
[23:15] <rww> mzaza: ##asm
[23:16] <mzaza> rww: Jordan_U thanks :)
[23:21] <DeeGu> So i got a slight problem. My mouse pointer is very slow and i am missing slider for speed changing in options. Problem occured when i clicked mouse and touchpad options. I have logitech k400 and 14.04 LTS. I would be extremely happy for help.
[23:24] <lvfjf> go to touchpad options and put in max fast
 There is no touchpad option
[23:44] <lvfjf> system administration > mouse
[23:46] <DeeGu> it looks like this http://i.imgur.com/14bXiGe.png
[23:47] <lvfjf> yes, your system is lefting one more
[23:47] <DeeGu> there is no slider what so ever for mouse speed
[23:47] <lvfjf> try sudo apt-get update
[23:48] <DeeGu> ok
[23:48] <DeeGu> still nothing
[23:49] <lvfjf> restart the system
[23:51] <tero> still nothing
[23:51] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys if im using xubuntu or ubuntu 12.04 and i connect to a VPN and it always displayed a bubble saying i was connected and i must have hit do not display again
[23:51] <Psil0Cybin> how do i undo that? so it continues to display the bubble
[23:52] <willwh> hi guys
[23:52] <willwh> I'm trying to use this on a vanilla 14.04: http://svn.asterisk.org/svn/asterisk/tags/12.2.0-rc3/contrib/scripts/install_prereq
[23:53] <willwh> I get a ton of package conflicts, all the 64bit versus the i386
[23:53] <willwh> what gives?
[23:53] <DeeGu> After boot there is not such option
[23:56] <lvfjf> sudo apt-get install synaptiks or synaptics
[23:57] <willwh> lvfjf: gmm?
[23:57] <DeeGu> Shit, my system language is in finnish
[23:58] <DeeGu> tero@tero-PC:~$ sudo apt-get install synaptics
[23:58] <DeeGu> [sudo] password for tero:
[23:58] <DeeGu> Luetaan pakettiluetteloita... Valmis
[23:58] <DeeGu> Muodostetaan riippuvuussuhteiden puu
[23:58] <DeeGu> Luetaan tilatiedot... Valmis
[23:58] <DeeGu> Pakettia synaptics ei ole saatavilla, mutta toinen paketti viittaa siihen.
[23:58] <unopaste> DeeGu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[23:59] <pelvis> hello everyone, gtkpod crashes when I try to add a folder, is there a way to fix this?