| studio | hey guys, have a problem. Have just installed 14.04. Was trying to set up flash through synaptic but install froze up. now when I try to open synaptic I get an error. says to run "dpkg --configure -a". I am running that in terminal but it doesn't seem to be going anywhere either. Any ideas? | 02:44 |
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| studio | hm | 02:44 |
| studio | cut off the first part | 02:44 |
| holstein | !flash | 02:44 |
| ubottu | To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash | 02:44 |
| holstein | i use chrome, which has the only recent version of flash provided by adobe | 02:44 |
| holstein | you can use the chome pepperflash in chromium | 02:45 |
| Unit193 | !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree | 02:45 |
| ubottu | pepperflashplugin-nonfree (source: pepperflashplugin-nonfree): Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.3ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 9 kB, installed size 65 kB (Only available for i386; amd64) | 02:45 |
| studio | I installed flash another way. But my prob is that I cannot access synaptic | 02:45 |
| holstein | studio: ok. install flash the suggested way | 02:45 |
| studio | i downloaded flash and followed the readme | 02:46 |
| holstein | studio: if you have package issues, you can open a terminal and run.. | 02:46 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get update and share errors | 02:46 |
| holstein | studio: you should insatll flash as i, and the ubuntu community and adobe suggests | 02:46 |
| studio | which is how? | 02:46 |
| cfhowlett | studio READ the !flash link sent to you earlier | 02:47 |
| holstein | studio: please open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update" and use a pastebin to share the output | 02:48 |
| holstein | !paste | studio | 02:48 |
| ubottu | studio: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 02:48 |
| studio | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7342106/ | 02:49 |
| cfhowlett | !aptlock|studio | 02:50 |
| ubottu | studio: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » | 02:50 |
| holstein | studio: is another process using it? | 02:50 |
| studio | I don't have any other process using it that I am aware of | 02:51 |
| holstein | studio: there is one, however | 02:51 |
| studio | how do i find it? | 02:51 |
| holstein | studio: could be the crashes synaptic.. | 02:52 |
| holstein | studio: you can always just reboot, if you cant figure out how to manage processes | 02:52 |
| studio | i ran the fuser command and it is asking to kill a process | 02:53 |
| studio | do i kill it? | 02:53 |
| holstein | studio: you'll need to, to get lock | 02:53 |
| holstein | studio: i have no idea what pacakge you tried to install | 02:53 |
| holstein | or, how it has broken your system | 02:53 |
| studio | downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.350.orig.tar.gz | 02:53 |
| holstein | studio: ok.. are you saying you are downloading that? | 02:54 |
| holstein | studio: please stop, if you are | 02:54 |
| studio | was | 02:54 |
| holstein | studio: and run "sudo apt-get update" til you get no error output | 02:54 |
| holstein | studio: share errors in pastebin | 02:54 |
| studio | running update now | 02:55 |
| holstein | studio: run it, and share the errors, so we can fix what you have broken, and get the system stable | 02:57 |
| studio | says "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run "sudo dpkg -- configure -a" to correct the problem | 02:57 |
| holstein | studio: ok.. have you done that? | 02:57 |
| holstein | studio: you can copy paste it in.. | 02:57 |
| studio | a couple times but that's when the downloading flash from above shows up | 02:58 |
| studio | Setting up update-notifier-common (0.154.1) ... | 02:59 |
| studio | flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.350.orig.tar.g | 02:59 |
| holstein | studio: tell me *exactly* how you are installing flash? | 02:59 |
| studio | not for certain, now. | 03:01 |
| holstein | studio: ? | 03:01 |
| holstein | studio: you need to figure it out | 03:01 |
| studio | had tried so many ways | 03:02 |
| holstein | studio: you have broken your system with one of those ways | 03:02 |
| studio | let me see | 03:02 |
| holstein | studio: its quite easy following the link above | 03:02 |
| holstein | studio: its in the default repos.. or, you just install chrome | 03:02 |
| holstein | studio: but, i need to know, if that download is hanging, what you have done | 03:02 |
| studio | I have it now installed | 03:02 |
| holstein | if you have added a source, or a PPA | 03:02 |
| studio | didn't add a source or ppa | 03:02 |
| holstein | https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ | 03:03 |
| holstein | studio: if you dont know where you got it, you'll have to verify that you trust it or not. and support it | 03:03 |
| studio | Downloaded it from adobe | 03:03 |
| holstein | studio: did you? | 03:03 |
| holstein | studio: you just said you didnt know? | 03:04 |
| studio | and placed the files where the readme file said to | 03:04 |
| holstein | studio: i would undo that, and do the one that i gave | 03:04 |
| holstein | why? because the package manager will update it automatically for security reasons | 03:04 |
| holstein | https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ gives what output? | 03:04 |
| studio | You have version 11,2,202,350 installed | 03:05 |
| holstein | ok. so, if you want the latest, you use chrome or pepperflash in chromium | 03:05 |
| holstein | if you want the system to manage the security updates for version 11, you remove what you did and follow.. | 03:06 |
| holstein | !flash | 03:06 |
| ubottu | To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash | 03:06 |
| studio | the problem is is that I am locked out of synaptic | 03:06 |
| holstein | studio: im not following, friend | 03:06 |
| holstein | studio: you click on an icon to launch the synaptic package manager, and you get "locked out" of something? | 03:07 |
| studio | E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. | 03:07 |
| studio | E: _cache->open() failed, please report. | 03:07 |
| studio | that's what I get when I try to open synaptic | 03:08 |
| holstein | studio: correct.. you have broken your system.. we determined that | 03:08 |
| studio | so how do I fix? | 03:08 |
| holstein | studio: you need to address those issues.. have you tried correcting the problem as instructed? | 03:08 |
| studio | I am not following | 03:08 |
| studio | how? | 03:08 |
| holstein | studio: as instructed from the message you gave | 03:08 |
| holstein | dpkg --configure -a | 03:09 |
| holstein | sudo dpkg --configure -a | 03:09 |
| holstein | if you could tell me *anything* about what you were doing, i could help more.. | 03:09 |
| studio | It locks with the following: Setting up update-notifier-common (0.154.1) ... | 03:09 |
| studio | flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.350.orig.tar.gz | 03:09 |
| holstein | studio: you need to fix all of that | 03:10 |
| holstein | you can try removeing whatever is getting stuck | 03:10 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get autoremove flashplugin-installer | 03:10 |
| holstein | studio: you'll need to fix all of those errors before *any* package manager will work properly | 03:10 |
| holstein | studio: synaptic is not locking you out.. its saying you have broken your system | 03:11 |
| studio | still getting this: : Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) | 03:11 |
| studio | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? | 03:11 |
| holstein | studio: correct. thats becuase you tried to open synaptic | 03:12 |
| holstein | studio: you can stop doing that | 03:12 |
| studio | that was in terminal | 03:12 |
| holstein | studio: you fix the errors *first*.. then synaptic will work | 03:12 |
| studio | ok. how? | 03:12 |
| holstein | !lock | 03:12 |
| cfhowlett | !aptlock | 03:12 |
| ubottu | If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » | 03:12 |
| holstein | ^ | 03:13 |
| holstein | thats how you fix the issue you create when you try and start synaptic with a broken package system | 03:13 |
| studio | !lock? what is that? | 03:13 |
| holstein | studio: ? that was a mistake, frien | 03:13 |
| cfhowlett | !aptlock|studio READ THIS HERE! | 03:13 |
| ubottu | studio READ THIS HERE!: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » | 03:13 |
| holstein | studio: i messed up there.. and cfhowlett helped me with the correct link | 03:13 |
| studio | ok. tried that | 03:14 |
| holstein | studio: fix the apt-lock, and stop trying to run synaptic.. synaptic is fine | 03:14 |
| studio | nothing | 03:14 |
| studio | i ran the fuser | 03:14 |
| holstein | studio: in the terminal. "sudo apt-get update" and report errors till we fix them | 03:15 |
| holstein | studio: you can try "sudo apt-get autoremove flashplugin-installer | 03:15 |
| studio | ok. running sudo apt-get update | 03:15 |
| holstein | studio: *dont* run synaptic til you fix this.. you create a lock, and synaptic gets stuck.. synaptic is not broken. you system is | 03:16 |
| studio | update finished with the following error | 03:16 |
| holstein | !paste | 03:16 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 03:16 |
| studio | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) | 03:16 |
| studio | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? | 03:16 |
| holstein | sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a | 03:17 |
| holstein | ^ | 03:17 |
| holstein | in the terminal | 03:17 |
| studio | running that | 03:17 |
| holstein | studio: at some point, you'll need to consider reinstallation here | 03:17 |
| studio | said to kill process. Killed process | 03:17 |
| studio | running --configure -a | 03:18 |
| studio | this is output: Setting up update-notifier-common (0.154.1) ... | 03:18 |
| studio | flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.350.orig.tar.gz | 03:18 |
| studio | still runiing | 03:18 |
| holstein | studio: correct.. does that not complete? | 03:19 |
| holstein | studio: why are you stopping there? | 03:19 |
| studio | done this several times but doesn't seem to finish. How long should it take? | 03:19 |
| holstein | studio: depends | 03:19 |
| studio | well, waiting | 03:20 |
| holstein | studio: you interrupted something somewhere | 03:20 |
| holstein | studio: if you could tell me what, it would help | 03:21 |
| studio | i don't know, Sorry | 03:21 |
| studio | too many kids in the house | 03:21 |
| holstein | i would try stopping that.. then, doing.. sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a | 03:21 |
| holstein | i mean.. | 03:21 |
| holstein | i would try stopping that.. then, doing.. sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock | 03:21 |
| studio | i did that already | 03:22 |
| holstein | then.. sudo apt-get autoremove flash-plugin-installer | 03:22 |
| studio | did that | 03:22 |
| holstein | studio: no, you havent | 03:22 |
| studio | yes i did | 03:22 |
| holstein | studio: you have used the longer one | 03:22 |
| holstein | studio: the command i just gave is differen | 03:22 |
| holstein | sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock should clear the lock | 03:23 |
| studio | yes | 03:23 |
| holstein | then, you can try auto-remove cleanly and share errors | 03:23 |
| studio | asks if I want to kill process | 03:23 |
| holstein | studio: the goal of that command is to kill processes | 03:23 |
| holstein | studio: it will *always* ask that | 03:23 |
| studio | just "auto-remove" | 03:23 |
| holstein | studio: ? | 03:24 |
| studio | you said try auto remove | 03:24 |
| holstein | studio: i try auto-remove whatever is a problem | 03:24 |
| holstein | studio: i specifically said "sudo apt-get autoremove flash-plugin-installer" | 03:24 |
| holstein | studio: you should try and burn through these quickly | 03:25 |
| studio | okay, on that last one | 03:25 |
| holstein | the issue can be challenging. and you really just have to try things | 03:25 |
| studio | studio@studio-Inspiron-1545:~$ sudo apt-get autoremove flash-plugin-installer | 03:25 |
| studio | E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. | 03:25 |
| holstein | you can ask in a larger channel, since its not studio related at all | 03:26 |
| studio | running in circles | 03:26 |
| holstein | or, just reinstall, and come here before breaking your sytem | 03:26 |
| holstein | system* | 03:26 |
| holstein | studio: yes. you will need to run in circles to track that down | 03:26 |
| holstein | studio: its a pain.. | 03:26 |
| holstein | studio: it would be ideal if you could say waht you have done to break it | 03:26 |
| holstein | that would help in undoing the breakage | 03:26 |
| holstein | if its my system? i just reinstall and be more cautious about what i paste in next time | 03:27 |
| holstein | otherewise.. just keep running commands and trying apt fixes | 03:27 |
| holstein | studio: you can try something like "sudo apt-get clean" | 03:29 |
| studio | ok. lets see | 03:29 |
| holstein | then, the dpkg one | 03:30 |
| holstein | studio: clearing the lock as needed | 03:30 |
| studio | well, nothing helps | 03:32 |
| holstein | studio: ? | 03:33 |
| holstein | studio: nothing you have tried so far, you mean | 03:33 |
| studio | yes | 03:33 |
| holstein | studio: i mean, you *can* fix it. but it would help to know how you broke it | 03:33 |
| studio | I said all I remembered | 03:33 |
| holstein | studio: you can, as i said, go to a larger community for help | 03:33 |
| holstein | #ubuntu or #xubuntu | 03:33 |
| studio | okay. Thanks anyway | 03:33 |
| studio | going to reinstall | 03:33 |
| holstein | this is not studio related, specificially, and there may be more folks there that can offer | 03:34 |
| holstein | but, reinstallation is so fast... | 03:34 |
| holstein | relatively | 03:34 |
| studio | yes | 03:34 |
| studio | be back later | 03:34 |
| holstein | studio: please, feel free and come *before* installing flash | 03:34 |
| holstein | studio: or, before installing anything, if you like | 03:34 |
| studio | good idea | 03:34 |
| studio | haha | 03:34 |
| studio | will do | 03:34 |
| holstein | studio: we can help you make sure you dont break the packages | 03:34 |
| holstein | studio: its easy to do with a google search and some copy pasting | 03:35 |
| studio | ok. going to reinstall now. | 03:35 |
| holstein | studio: i feel for you.. and wish you well...and wish we could have been more helpful. | 03:35 |
| studio | Well, back again | 04:28 |
| studio | fresh install. should I install the restricted extras package? | 04:29 |
| holstein | !flash | 04:30 |
| ubottu | To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash | 04:30 |
| holstein | !restriced | 04:30 |
| holstein | !restricted | 04:30 |
| ubottu | For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 04:30 |
| holstein | studio: i use chrome for flash, since i want the latest flash | 04:30 |
| holstein | !pepperflash | 04:30 |
| holstein | !info pepperflash-plugin-nonfree | 04:30 |
| ubottu | Package pepperflash-plugin-nonfree does not exist in trusty | 04:30 |
| holstein | !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree | 04:31 |
| ubottu | pepperflashplugin-nonfree (source: pepperflashplugin-nonfree): Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.3ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 9 kB, installed size 65 kB (Only available for i386; amd64) | 04:31 |
| holstein | or, you can use that ^ | 04:31 |
| studio | I need to install the restricted for xubuntu? | 04:31 |
| holstein | studio: restricted extras has a lot of stuff in it | 04:31 |
| holstein | studio: you never "need" to | 04:31 |
| holstein | studio: if you want what the extras provide, you install them | 04:31 |
| studio | well, if I want to then the xubuntu? | 04:31 |
| holstein | studio: there is more than flash in there | 04:31 |
| studio | yes | 04:31 |
| studio | all this because my wife watches hulu in firefox | 04:35 |
| holstein | you can use chrome | 04:35 |
| holstein | it is the only recent version of flash provided to us | 04:35 |
| studio | chrome doesn't have a video downloader | 04:35 |
| holstein | https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ | 04:35 |
| holstein | studio: you can use firefox to download the videos. whatever that means | 04:35 |
| holstein | i download content all the time in chrome, or whatever browser | 04:36 |
| holstein | im not saying chrome is "good" or "better".. im staing a fact | 04:36 |
| holstein | it is the only up to date flash we have | 04:36 |
| studio | probably will. the restricted package should let me watch video yes? | 04:36 |
| holstein | and, you can use it in chromium if you prever | 04:36 |
| holstein | studio: the restricted package does what it does | 04:37 |
| holstein | installs what it installs.. the packages do what they do | 04:37 |
| holstein | nothing about those pacakges, or linux, or ubuntu, or ubuntustudio prevents *any* video from plahing | 04:37 |
| holstein | playing* | 04:37 |
| studio | haha. very existentialistic that | 04:37 |
| holstein | any content provider or creator is more than welcome to look at the completely open code in everything we have, and make content that works for you | 04:38 |
| holstein | but, the dont | 04:38 |
| holstein | and you watch the content you want to watch by doing what they suggest | 04:38 |
| studio | true | 04:38 |
| holstein | many times that requires a more recent version of flahs | 04:38 |
| holstein | flash* | 04:38 |
| holstein | that is available through pepperflash in linux only | 04:38 |
| studio | hadn't heard of pepperflash | 04:39 |
| holstein | https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ | 04:39 |
| holstein | thats not a linux or ubuntu site | 04:39 |
| holstein | you can read about it from the creators and maintainers of the actual product there | 04:39 |
| holstein | a lot of places (youtube) lets you opt into html5 content | 04:39 |
| studio | still haven't seen much of that | 04:40 |
| holstein | that? | 04:40 |
| studio | html5 | 04:40 |
| holstein | its coming more and more | 04:40 |
| studio | what i've seen looks cool | 04:40 |
| cfhowlett | flash is dying. slowly and painfully, perhaps, but dying. | 04:40 |
| holstein | eventually, it wont be an issue.. til then, we dont get flash anymore | 04:41 |
| studio | c'est la vie | 04:41 |
| studio | well, love linux, love studio | 04:42 |
| holstein | cheers! | 04:42 |
| studio | hm. could be a repeat of the problem. | 04:46 |
| studio | nope. nevermind | 04:47 |
| holstein | just dont interrupt any package managers | 04:47 |
| holstein | try and stay connected, and remember what you ran | 04:47 |
| studio | restricted extras installed successfully | 04:47 |
| studio | so far so good | 04:50 |
| studio | are there still some issues | 04:50 |
| studio | how do i know if ffmpeg is installed? | 04:55 |
| cfhowlett | studio terminal ffmpeg -i | 04:57 |
| studio | says command not found | 04:58 |
| studio | that mean its not installed | 04:58 |
| cfhowlett | studio then not installed | 04:58 |
| studio | so, sudo apt-get install ffmpeg? | 04:59 |
| cfhowlett | studio note: ffmpeg has been deprecated. use avconv instead | 04:59 |
| studio | really? | 04:59 |
| studio | ok | 04:59 |
| cfhowlett | !info ffmpeg | 04:59 |
| ubottu | Package ffmpeg does not exist in trusty | 04:59 |
| cfhowlett | !info avconv | 04:59 |
| ubottu | Package avconv does not exist in trusty | 04:59 |
| studio | ? | 05:00 |
| cfhowlett | holstein eh? no avconv in trusty? | 05:00 |
| * cfhowlett is still on precise until 14.04.1 | 05:00 | |
| studio | so winff won't work? | 05:00 |
| cfhowlett | studio winff is a gui front-end to ffmpeg | 05:02 |
| cfhowlett | studio try this: run a terminal: apt-cache search ffmpeg | 05:02 |
| cfhowlett | studio if it shows, sudo apt-get install | 05:03 |
| studio | ok. | 05:03 |
| studio | hm. seems winff is frontend for avconv also. cool | 05:04 |
| cfhowlett | studio makes sense! | 05:05 |
| studio | converting something now. let's see how it works, avconv that is | 05:05 |
| studio | Well, worked great. | 05:07 |
| cfhowlett | studio one problem solved! | 05:08 |
| studio | actually several. groovy | 05:08 |
| delt | Hello | 09:41 |
| delt | is the "envelope/mail" indicator supposed to probe a mailbox and tell you if there's new mail or something? | 09:41 |
| delt | not doing it here for local mailbox, and no (apparent) options to configure it | 09:41 |
| coelebs | hello | 16:56 |
| coelebs | after i've used jack how i set pulseaudio back on | 16:56 |
| coelebs | so i can watch youtube etc | 16:57 |
| zequence | coelebs: You can use both at the same time | 17:13 |
| zequence | coelebs: On Ubuntu Studio? | 17:13 |
| coelebs | huh? | 17:13 |
| coelebs | i got a solution already to kill manually jack processes | 17:14 |
| zequence | coelebs: Yes, but you can connect pulseaudio to jack, so you can use both simultaniously | 17:14 |
| coelebs | that would be cool i admit | 17:14 |
| zequence | coelebs: On Ubuntu Studio? | 17:15 |
| coelebs | yeah on ubuntu studio ^_^ | 17:15 |
| zequence | coelebs: So, unless you installed another kind of jack, you should have jackd2 installed. Always make sure to start jackdbus, and not jackd. qjackctl is set to do that by default | 17:16 |
| zequence | After starting jack, simply select jack as the output in pulseaudio controls | 17:16 |
| zequence | There's a module that automatically creates a jack client with sink and source for pulseaudio, called pulseadio-module-jack, but it will only automatically do so if you start jackdbus | 17:17 |
| zequence | jackd2 grabs the audio device from pulseaudio, but with the module, you can make pulseaudio just another software client for jack | 17:18 |
| coelebs | thx i will play with this around :) | 17:20 |
| zequence | The setting in qjackctl to select between jackd and jackdbus is in Setup -> Misc, something about dbus support | 17:20 |
| zequence | make sure it's selected | 17:20 |
| coelebs | i'm mostly interested on routing audio from browser to renoise | 17:21 |
| zequence | you can route all of pulseaudio to any jack client, so that should be no problem, as long as renoise supports jack | 17:21 |
| coelebs | not yet there but tweaking this spot seems to crash firefox | 17:24 |
| coelebs | anyways thank you for this | 17:26 |
| coelebs | i'll look at it later more now it | 17:26 |
| coelebs | 's time to watch some game of thrones | 17:27 |
| zzecool | Hello there is anyone here? | 19:58 |
| zzecool | not afk | 19:58 |
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