[00:10] ::workspace-bugs:: [1313193] Missing "$" in /usr/bin/startkde @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1313193 (by Rafael Jesus Alcantara Perez) [07:25] ::workspace-bugs:: [1313193] Missing "$" in /usr/bin/startkde @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1313193 (by Rafael Jesus Alcantara Perez) [07:46] Riddell: bug 1271304 does not compute for me [07:46] bug 1271304 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "crash when restoring previously installed packages" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1271304 [07:53] shadeslayer, Riddell: do either of you have an i386 vm of trusty? [07:59] I have a couple of laptops running trusty, will that do? [08:02] oh, I don't think that will help; sorry for the noise [08:10] Good morning. [08:16] apachelogger: no although not hard to make one [08:17] Riddell: I'll need some gdb core dump inspection if you are up to it [08:17] oh, technically a chroot probably would be enough [08:21] * Riddell makes it so [08:22] http://81.10.192.84/~juergen/bug331114.tar.xz [08:22] core.17298 is the core of qaptworker and core.17265 of muon-updater [08:22] * apachelogger actually wonders why the updater core is 160m Oo [08:23] anyway, some backtraces would be lovely for starters ^^ [08:45] oh kde, you are my sunshine.... [08:45] :/ [08:46] (KDE power management has been limiting my CPU to 800MHz, making me very frustrated). Suprising there is no config place for that.... (so it seems) [08:48] jussi: I don't think powerdevil does that [08:48] if anything it sets a kernel cpu scaling governor [08:49] apachelogger: When I turned off kde powermanagement, my speed returned. [08:49] that seems very silly [08:49] (via the checkbox in the battery plasmoid9 [08:49] there's a checkbox? [08:50] apachelogger: go click the battery plasmoid [08:50] well, I don't have one :P [08:50] it was introduced in 4.8 if I read correctly [08:50] screenshot [08:51] pix or it didn't happen! [08:55] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon-backend-gstreamer/+bug/1313066 [08:55] Launchpad bug 1313066 in phonon-backend-gstreamer (Ubuntu) "No feedback when a codec is missing" [Undecided,New] [08:56] shadeslayer: do you have a vm handy to test that? [08:56] someone else was also complaining about that somewhere [08:56] yet I am reasonable certain it worked just fine with dragon [08:59] apachelogger: see the powermanagement section here: http://kde.org/announcements/4.8/plasma.php [09:01] jussi: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor [09:01] once with the option on and once with it off [09:02] I really think that just sets the kernel governor [09:02] which in turn would also make sense because the powersave governor sets the speed to minimum frequency [09:03] jussi@Constellation:~$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor [09:03] userspace [09:03] ondemand [09:03] jussi@Constellation:~$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor [09:03] userspace [09:03] ondemand [09:03] jussi@Constellation:~$ [09:03] uhhh [09:03] file a bug :P [09:04] a) I don't think the two cores should have a different governor [09:04] Ill try first on another machine that I havent played with. [09:04] b) quite possibly powerdevil sets a bad userspace governor rule [09:04] someone came to me this weekend at the booth with a similar problem [09:04] I couldn't help with the gui [09:05] his screen would dim about 30 seconds after boot, and everything would slow down [09:05] cpu scaling sounds about right [09:06] jussi: either something is detected incorrectly or that setup is not from powerdevil [09:06] with AC all cores are on the performance governor and on battery all are ondemand [09:06] apachelogger: ok, weirdness now - when on battery, scaling works. when not, scaling doesnt [09:08] because whatever is setting the userspace governor should not do that [09:08] userspace is nasty as that leaves it to the application to define the exact frequency [09:11] where the hell is the equal sign on a german keyboard [09:11] :@ [09:15] oh god [09:15] oh god [09:16] darth vader needs to save me from this madness [09:26] apachelogger: looking at the bug [09:26] shadeslayer: already on it [09:27] ohm? [09:27] we don't seed the shitty shit package [09:27] @_@ [09:28] that's what happens when you decide to do library migrations at the last minute without any preparation whatsoever [09:28] heh [09:28] the package is called gstreamer0.10-qapt supposedly was dropped along with gstreamer0.10 crap from the seed, I subsequently ported it to support gst1 didn't look at the packaging though so I did not notice the bogus name and even if I did I probably would not have thought of it being on the seed [09:28] *not being on the seed [09:29] that it got through QA is an embarrassment without equal [09:29] you ported it to 1.0? thats what happens when you port things and don't tell anyone [09:29] apachelogger: anyway, any critical tasks for today? [09:29] I told everyone [09:30] I did the port like a week or two before release [09:30] so it actually had to be accepted by the release team even [09:30] shadeslayer: everything is critical [09:30] shadeslayer: no clue, driver manager still needs sru verification I think [09:30] also qt SRU needs more handling I think (the mails in my inbox were confusing) [09:31] other than that I think muon upstream needs some triaging [09:33] I'll verify driver manager [09:34] ScottK: gstreamer0.10-qapt was not on the 14.04.0 seed, should I add it as recommends and add a known issues note to the release page or as depends and force everyone to get it? [09:34] without it automatic codec installation is entirely not working [09:35] which in turn makes amarok crash because of (presumably) phonon-gstreamer bugs [09:39] :S [09:39] apachelogger: something is broken for driver manager, it doesn't seem to be sending any dbus queries [09:39] I did not change anything there [09:39] I think(tm) [09:40] I can also make bustle crash reliably [09:40] (bustle:16816): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: Error while sending AddMatch() message: The connection is closed [09:40] bustle: user error (wrapNewGObject: object is NULL) [09:42] ./gstreamer-qapt.postinst:# postinst script for gstreamer0.10-qapt [09:43] it's not enough that the file has a very clear name, you need to explain the name in a comment [09:43] ... [09:45] shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7351353/ please review [09:45] apachelogger: 2.1.70-0ubuntu5~ [09:45] why the ~ [09:46] so backports are covered 2.1.70-0ubuntu5~ppa1 [09:46] wouldn't 2.1.70-0ubuntu5 cover that too> [09:47] no [09:47] ok [09:47] 2.1.70-0ubuntu5~ppa1 is << 2.1.70-0ubuntu5 [09:49] 2.1.70-0ubuntu5~ is a set of versions > 2.1.70-0ubuntu4 but < 2.1.70-0ubuntu5 [09:49] roger roger [09:50] looks good to me [09:50] 2.1.70-0ubuntu5~ OTOH is < 2.1.70-0ubuntu5~1 [09:50] so whenver you append something to the ~ you are greatifying the version from the lower bounds ubuntu5~ to the upper bounds ubuntu6 [09:51] (well technically ubuntu5([^~])*) [10:04] kubotu: newversion meta-kde-telepathy 0.8.1 [10:04] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1313611 [10:04] already on my todo btw ^^ [10:04] kubotu: newversion libkpeople 0.2.2 [10:04] shadeslayer: please assign bugs to yourself [10:04] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1313612 [10:04] done [10:10] File libqapt_2.1.70-0ubuntu5.debian.tar.bz2 already exists in Primary Archive for Ubuntu, but uploaded version has different contents. See more information about this error in https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors. [10:10] pff [10:15] 'Morning folks [10:18] apachelogger: hmm gdb has defeated me http://paste.kde.org/pbqvig61o [10:19] apachelogger: hmm file says "core file x86-64" that suggests not i386 [10:19] yeah [10:19] lol [10:19] Riddell: sorry [10:19] * apachelogger though he read i386 in the logs [10:19] -.- [10:26] Riddell: can you retrace it on amd64? because I can't for some reason [10:27] ah, nevermind [10:27] #3 0x00007f8e16e80c92 in QEventDispatcherUNIX::processEvents (this=0x7f8e000008f0, flags=...) at kernel/qeventdispatcher_unix.cpp:936 [10:27] wth [10:28] apachelogger: trying.. [10:29] "Do you need a financial help? email us @...." [10:29] what a friendly mail [10:29] apachelogger: muon http://paste.kde.org/pn6d7pmpa [10:29] thanks [10:29] apachelogger: qaptworker http://paste.kde.org/pk5tafc2w [10:32] ohohohoh [10:32] * apachelogger wonders if the unix eventloop might be why polkit is broken [10:32] see the problem is qaptworker somehow gets stuck on polkit business [10:33] and muon-updater shows a unix eventloop (should be glib) [10:33] apachelogger: does using gstreamer0.10-qapt work fine for gstreamer1.0 ? [10:33] so assuming -updater has the unix loop because of something in the envrionment it is possibly the the polkit auth request does not show up in the user session because the polkit helper is also using a unix loop and that does not work with polkit [10:34] Riddell: yes, the package is incorrectly named [10:34] hmm, interesting [10:34] Riddell: grab a new VM, play an mp3 in amarok [10:34] then install gstreamer0.10-qapt and try again [10:35] <- actually ported the codec helper before release [10:38] bugger, forcing the unix eventloop does not seem to break things sufficiently -.- [10:39] oh wait, I did it wrong [10:39] :@ [10:39] I hate mondays so very much [10:39] * alket mondays are the best [10:41] oh, it's monday already? [10:41] :@ [10:43] AH! [10:43] I win [10:47] (gdb) x/s *((char **)environ+40) [10:47] 0x7fff1a054cf0: "QT_NO_GLIB=1" [10:53] whyever would you set that? [11:01] apachelogger: might want to poke doodle === shadeslayer changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - So Utopic. | Kubuntu 14.04 released - get back to work! | https://trello.com/kubuntu | Reports http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Polo Shirts are available again!! https://holvi.com/shop/Kubuntu/ (Womens also) | Kubuntu 14.10/16.04 planning http://doodle.com/z5723iwv9cmc75y2#table [11:02] nice topic [11:02] shadeslayer: why? [11:02] it's a stil a week before first date, no? [11:05] apachelogger: right, might be useful to bring it up again on the ML so that people don't miss it? [11:05] shadeslayer: yes, it's 3 clicks away mate :P [11:05] Riddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331114#c3 in case you are interested [11:05] KDE bug 331114 in updater "muon-updater never works, always need to kill qaptworker" [Normal,Resolved: invalid] [11:23] shadeslayer: did you get anywhere with driver-manager? [11:53] apachelogger and Riddell: I'm OK with depends (this being different than the split baloo case because the bug is the missing package). [11:58] ok, going to prep the SRU today then [12:09] talking of SRUs bug 1289600 needs versification for quantal and precise [12:09] bug 1289600 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Saucy) "Fix for crashes due to ubuntu-specific accessibility patch" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1289600 [12:35] apachelogger: nope, utterly broken on my machine [12:36] I'll poke my vm a bit [12:37] it's weird, the dbus request never gets sent [12:38] I don't want to spend too much time debugging it since it's something unplanned for today [12:38] Once I get through my TODO, I'll have a look [12:41] <- currently annoyed at pbuilder [12:42] its the way of the pbuilder [12:43] not sure why, but I can't make a utopic pbuilder to build my ktp packages :< [12:44] missing debootstrap for utopic maybe? [12:44] you need the deboostrap and distro-data-info [12:44] needs the symlink added? [12:44] Yes. [12:44] One is either in proposed or updates. [12:44] argh, I'm using a mirror\ [12:44] which might have a out of date debootstrap [12:45] Or do login --save-after-login update sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade and logout. [12:45] then rename the tarball. [12:45] 'cause it'll be a utopic one then. [12:45] true [12:50] shadeslayer: driver manager works for me [12:51] http://i.imgur.com/FXMhvaL.png [12:55] ok [12:56] apachelogger: not sure, but a reboot fixed it [12:56] peculiar [12:56] shadeslayer: if you can please verify bug 1311583 [12:56] bug 1311583 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "kubuntu-driver-managers leaves apt in a broken state when switching drivers on a nvidia machine" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1311583 [12:56] yep doing that on my nvidia machine [12:56] my install is way too polluted with self compiled rubbish ^^ [12:56] other than that everything should be verified [12:57] k [13:01] pbuilder is so full of shit [13:01] sudo -E DIST=utopic doesn't work [13:01] sudo -E dist=utopic works [13:01] heh [13:01] write lbuilder already :P [13:01] shadeslayer: just needs a new symlink in /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/ no? [13:01] Riddell: I have it [13:01] I explained all the bits a while ago when I looked into lxc [13:02] it's all there, one just needs to write glue around it [13:02] but for some reason my variables have suddenly stopped working [13:05] * apachelogger preps kubuntu-meta [13:05] apachelogger: yeah, I reckon I'll have to write lbuilder at some point [13:09] * shadeslayer yonders when systemd will land in utopic [13:09] s/when/if :P [13:10] there's not exactly a good track record of landing things when they were supposed to land [13:17] I see what you did there ;) [13:18] well, things are working pretty well from pitti's PPA [13:21] Uploading kubuntu-meta_1.308.1_source.changes: done. [13:21] Successfully uploaded packages. [13:21] adds gstreamer0.10-qapt to trusty's meta packages [13:50] shadeslayer: did you guys look at https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/205be0085e711d8928ed136719b457bca28ca00a [13:52] vHanda: http://paste.kde.org/pgjtooxa3 ^^ [13:52] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/baloo/+bug/1296173 [13:52] Launchpad bug 1296654 in baloo (Ubuntu Trusty) "duplicate for #1296173 baloo_file_extractor crashed with SIGABRT in __gnu_cxx::__verbose_terminate_handler()" [High,Fix released] [13:55] shadeslayer: any clue as to how I can get the debug output? [13:55] the backtrace is fairly useless, it just tells me that an exception has been caught [13:55] apachelogger: ^^ , you had something that did that? [13:55] I did not [13:55] I think [13:56] on a related note though [13:56] okay, then how do you want to proceed here [13:56] it might be worthwhile to check with ev whether it is possible to get startkde.log on errors.ubuntu [13:56] that would certainly show the exception [14:06] apachelogger: kubuntu-meta SRU accepted. [14:14] Quintasan: https://code.launchpad.net/~blue-shell/sddm/netrunner-packaging [14:14] Quintasan: building on top of your packaging [14:15] you might want to merge and push to kubuntu-packagers at some point [14:15] shadeslayer: I'm actually kontemplating how to get that into Debian [14:15] Quintasan: get upstream to remove their debian dir :P [14:15] ScottK: Can you take a look at what shadeslayer created on top of my work and see if that's useable? [14:15] which is quite shitty [14:16] at some point I would like to have a dual build, Qt4 and Qt5 from the same package [14:16] Quintasan: Not probably until Friday. $work up to my eyeballs until then. [14:16] shadeslayer: why [14:16] ScottK: I see, not hurry really, I wanted to get it into Debian since we are at the beginning of the cycle. [14:16] apachelogger: good question, because I can :P [14:16] no hurr% [14:16] but I'm not in a hurry to do that [14:16] Well. [14:17] * Quintasan can't type [14:17] QScintilla2 builds for both Qt4 and Qt5 if you want an example. [14:17] oh thx [14:17] will have a look [14:19] the why question remains [14:19] we have no intention to use the qt4 build and seeing as qt4 is going away in the not too distant future there is no point in creating a dual build [14:34] ScottK: since eglibc is not being developed anymore, will Debian switch to glibc ? [14:35] or atleast thats what http://www.eglibc.org/home says [14:36] yofel: do you remember the fix for https://launchpadlibrarian.net/174057137/buildlog.txt.gz [14:37] shadeslayer: AFAIR, don't use source format 0.4 [14:37] I wonder if nest-part will work with 0.4 [14:37] erm [14:37] 0.3 [14:37] nest-part should I think.. [14:38] git-commit won't [14:38] ok [14:38] ok [14:59] upgrade killed my audio setup, headset does not work, and settings don't play well with me :-/ [15:07] switching to GStreamer and reboot (not relogin) helped [15:13] good to hear that gst works instead of vlc :P [15:28] Blizzz: usb headset or old fashioned jack? [15:34] Riddell: usb [15:34] Riddell: i think the main issue was the the backend was switched to VLC for some reason (have had GStreamer before) [15:40] Blizzz: oh you can get phonon to work with usb headsets in 14.04? [15:41] Riddell: yes [15:42] Riddell: it was enought to switch to GStreamer and reboot (not relogin as suggested). Then you can configure it just like before. [15:44] gosh now suddently it works for me [15:45] maybe just a small issue in the matrix [15:45] funny how often usb headsets have issues with the matrix [15:49] :D [15:49] i do not have have much to compain about, except of this. Might have been that I had short trouble with a release long long ago, too, but in general it works for me (TM). [16:03] Blizzz: is vlc-plugin-pulse installed? [16:07] apachelogger: no, just phonon-backend-vlc. [16:09] that'd be why it broke then :P [16:09] curious that it worked before [16:58] apachelogger: there is no depency of phonon-backend-vlc to vlc-plugin-pulse [16:58] apachelogger: i did not use vlc backend before [16:58] I have no clue [17:01] hi Elv1313 [17:01] hi [17:01] I guess you know why I came ;) [17:01] crashes! [17:01] Where are the backtraces for that? [17:02] https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2014.04&package=sflphone&version=1.3.0-1ubuntu1.1 [17:02] apachelogger know more about that site [17:03] 1.3.0 is an enormous update, the patch probably didn't cause the error, but was more likely hiding it under a bigger one [17:03] that e-mail seems to be sauing that the ubuntu1.1 caused the spike compared to ubuntu1 version [17:03] there is no backtraces on this patch, nor is there any bugs [17:04] because that versuion had an infinite loop with the new Akonadi, it didn't crashed [17:04] mm, I can't see any backtraces [17:04] so no repports [17:04] apachelogger: where does the site hide backtraces? [17:05] It was deployed on at least 20 computers arround here without issues, so I guess it is the deadlock due to a regression in Akonadi, the devs are aware of this one. But it might be something else, without backtraces I can't tell [17:07] ah, I had to add the -kde [17:07] "sflphone" is a metapackge [17:08] Riddell: "Sorry, you are not a member of a group that is allowed to see the data from error reports. Please fill out this form to request access." [17:09] hi bdmurray, I got a presumably automated e-mail from you about increases in bugs in sflphone [17:09] Riddell: if you cant fix that, can you pastebin those https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2014.04&package=sflphone-kde&period=month [17:09] bdmurray: but I'm not familar enough with the errors site to know how to get the backtrace [17:10] Riddell: open that link, click the error. I see it, but can't open it [17:11] Elv1313: you can just fill in the form to say you won't be evil and sell the data to spammers, not sure how quickly it gets processed [17:11] Elv1313: hmm that top error just says "This problem failed to retrace. " [17:11] Riddell: where is this form? I just see a permisison denied [17:12] Riddell: if you goto the url in the email and change the period to month you'l see https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2014.04&package=sflphone&period=month&version=1.3.0-1ubuntu1.1 [17:12] Riddell: those seeem to be package install failures [17:13] Elv1313: You need to be a member of error-tracker-access or something to view crash reports [17:13] yep second one is "trying to overwrite '/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/it/sflphone-kde/basic-use.docbook.gz'" [17:13] Riddell: and it looks like the conflicts is with a PPA package [17:13] right [17:14] so I suspect the increate in reports is due to 14.04 being released [17:14] so I can override the phased-updater check for the rate increase and it the phased-updater will start incrementing the phasing again [17:14] bdmurray: what is phasing? [17:15] Riddell: phasing of stable release updates - http://www.murraytwins.com/blog/?p=127 [17:15] bdmurray: can someone add me to that group. Given I am the (code) maintainer/core dev of 4 packages, I think it would generally be useful [17:16] Elv1313: I believe this is the process - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2013-May/001039.html [17:17] Riddell: I get cc'ed on the mails that the phased-updater sends and had meant to look at sflphone. I just got back from holiday so I'm wading through things. [17:19] thanks for your help bdmurray [17:19] Riddell: no problem [17:19] Elv1313: I've got to go, seems like it was just people updating to 14.04 that caused the increase [17:19] Ok, I am done reading and filling the contract. I guess this is manually approved [17:20] Riddell: I will check that when I get access. I will ask the PPA maintainer (he work a few desk away from me) to fix the conflicts [17:21] Elv1313: ev is pretty good about approving access quickly but you might ping him [17:22] * Elv1313 pinging [17:26] Riddell, bdmurray: thanks, I will investigate and see what I can do. There will be at least 2 more patches in the next few days and one to Akonadi (may wait for the next stable release) to fix (1) a deadlock and (2) a certificate validation issue [18:56] !council [18:56] Sorry, I don't know anything about council [18:56] Riddell: [18:56] Riddell: ping [18:59] Or, anyone within the Council [19:07] Darkwing: howdy [19:07] Darkwing: anything urgent? [19:10] shadeslayer: I have control of @kubuntu on twitter now... is there a Generic Kubuntu Council email to transfer ownership or, someone who is managing all of Kubuntu social media these days? [19:11] Darkwing: kubuntu-council@lists.launchpad.net I guess [19:11] but usually it's me/Harald/Valorie/Riddell/any other folks that I might have forgotten [19:12] also, hurray :) [19:14] Who is controlling the G+ and FB pages? [19:16] Darkwing: when I asked Riddell said we have no FB page [19:16] G+ is managed by aforementioned people plus others I think [19:16] kk [19:16] I expect to discuss social media management for the next cycle [19:16] it's an outright mess right now [19:55] shadeslayer: Dunno. Ask infinity if you really care. [20:16] shadeslayer: homerun doesn't have an MRE, I don't think. [22:06] hello kubuntu-devel. i have a bug report question. if you install libboost-dev the following libboost-filesystem-dev and libboost-program-options-dev are not installed . i have not sure if this is a bug or not. should a report be made? [22:06] sithlord48: Ask xnox on #ubuntu-devel if he doesn't answer here. [22:07] thanks you ScottK [22:42] shadeslayer: bloody hell [22:43] 5216155615678798321 out of 10 [22:43] Quintasan: wut [22:43] This photo [22:43] It destroyed my everything [22:43] ScottK: probably not, but I think having searching working in homerun is probably important [22:43] Quintasan: :D [22:43] I just don't even know what's going on anymore [22:43] me neither [22:44] I was about to run sudo shutdown now [22:44] apachelogger: I've just seen Quintasan in the most 90's photo ever [22:44] I know [22:44] the one day I go to social media a month [22:45] ^^ [22:48] facebook is giving me shitty posts [22:48] that's news right there [22:48] put it on facebook, will you [22:49] pft, too late, already closed it [22:49] going to go read my book and try to sleep [22:55] ScottK: not a bug. =) [22:56] ScottK: there is libboost-all-dev, but one typically should just build-depend on the components one uses. [23:43] Darkwing: hey well done!