[05:30] <penko> hi.  on my lubuntu i can`t install flash player. i mean that i install it, but it doesn`t work...
[05:42] <penko_> hi.  on my lubuntu i can`t install flash player. i mean that i install it, but it doesn`t work...
[05:48] <hateball> penko: In what browser?
[05:49] <hateball> penko: And how did you install it?
[05:52] <penko> in firefox.  chrome doesn`t start
[05:52] <penko> i try to download from adobe.com then copy libflash***.so to different places - no luck
[05:53] <penko> also try to install from synaptic flashplayer-installer. again doesn`t work
[05:53] <penko> also try to install pepperflash*** - again doesn`t work
[05:54] <penko> also i try with restricted extras/addons and this also doesn`t work :)
[05:56] <penko> hateball , is it possible  newest flash player to have bug?
[06:25] <hateball> penko: well for one, pepperflash only works with chrome/ium
[06:26] <hateball> penko: what are "different places" ? :)
[06:26] <hateball> penko: For Firefox, you will want libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[06:33] <penko> i copy it to   usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/libflashplayer.so   /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so   and create this  /home/penko/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[06:33] <penko> but clips in youtube doesn`t work
[06:33] <penko> machine is amd sempron 2500+ (work on 1,7), 1gb ram and radeon 9200 video card
[06:33] <JohnDoe_71Rus> you can switch youtube to html5 plauer
[06:34] <JohnDoe_71Rus> *player
[06:35] <JohnDoe_71Rus> for me, 14.04 + firefox and adobe flash from repos work fine
[06:40] <hateball> penko: about:plugins
[06:40] <hateball> penko: does that show flash at all?
[06:40] <hateball> Switching to HTML5 is good, but sadly not all things have upgraded away from Flash yet
[06:40] <penko>     File: libflashplayer.so   Path: /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so    Version: 11.2.202.350 State: Enabled  Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
[06:41] <penko> but for me doesn`t work
[06:41] <penko> it is possible to don`t work because of old machine?
[06:42] <JohnDoe_71Rus> penko: my http://www.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/global/products/inspn/topics/en/landing_inspn_1501?c=us
[06:43] <hyperair> what do you mean "doesn't work"?
[06:43] <penko> did i need to install jplayer?
[06:43] <penko> can`t open clip in youtube
[06:43] <hyperair> what happens when you try?
[06:43] <hyperair> "doesn't work" and "can't open clip" aren't very specific
[06:43] <hyperair> does firefox crash?
[06:43] <hyperair> does it hang?
[06:43] <hyperair> what about chrome?
[06:44] <penko> i don`t use laptop. it is old desktop computer :)
[06:44] <hyperair> and if it doesn't, what do you see instead?
[06:44] <hyperair> i don't care if it's a laptop or computer
[06:44] <hyperair> just tell me what you see
[06:44] <penko> firefox doesn`t crash.  only gray windows where must be video
[06:45] <penko> chrome has problem. it give me system program problem detected :)
[06:45] <hyperair> that's a crash
[06:45] <hyperair> does the entire firefox window turn gray?
[06:45] <hyperair> or only the rectangular part where the video is?
[06:46] <penko> https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html   when i click on check now it show that i have flashplayer...
[06:46] <JohnDoe_71Rus> penko: i mean my mashine old to
[06:46] <penko> only where video is
[06:47] <hyperair> okay
[06:47] <penko> what program to install to can paste in it printscreen? i install xpaint but it is unusable :)
[06:47] <Unit193> scrot is installed.
[06:47] <hyperair> gnome-screenshot works
[06:47] <hyperair> or shutter
[06:47] <penko> thank you
[06:47] <hyperair> scrot works too, but you need to use the termianl for that
[06:48] <hyperair> can the gray area be right clicked?
[06:49] <penko> no. outside it i can right klick
[06:50] <hyperair> oaky, it really isn't working
[06:50] <hyperair> you said it's an old computer. are you using the 32-bit build of lubuntu then?
[06:51] <penko> yes. 32 bit
[06:51] <Unit193> I don't think it'd be the issue I'm thinking, but can you paste  xdpyinfo | grep root  ?
[06:51] <penko>  root window id:    0x106   depth of root window:    24 planes
[06:52] <hyperair> Unit193: what issue are you thinking?
[06:52] <penko> btw console is strange. i can`t copy from it :(   i add  >> /home/penko/11.txt and copy form there :)
[06:52] <Unit193> hyperair: Well, this isn't it.  Flash handles >24bit very poorly.
[06:53] <penko> computer is sempron 2500+, 1gb ram and video radeon 9200 pro :)
[06:53] <hyperair> Unit193: there's > 24bit?
[06:53] <hateball> penko: ctrl+shift+c to copy in terminal
[06:53] <hyperair> Unit193: is that supposed to be with alpha channel, or what?
[06:53] <penko> thank you.
[06:54] <Unit193> hyperair: The intel driver dev set it to that for gen2 devices as they're supposed to "preform" better, turns out some applications handle it quite badly.  Not sure why it breaks, sorry.
[06:54] <hyperair> Unit193: hmm, what's classified under gen2?
[06:54] <hyperair> i'm on an ivb, i don't see a figure > 24 there
[06:55] <hyperair> penko: have you installed pepperflashplugin-nonfree?
[06:56] <hyperair> penko: if you have, could you open chromium and look for the flash plugin in chrome://plugins?
[06:56] <penko> yes.
[06:56] <penko> chromium doesn`t start :P
[06:56] <hyperair> uh
[06:56] <penko> system program problem detected :)
[06:57]  * hyperair groans
[06:57] <penko> doesn`t start if i install it from package or from synaptic...
[06:58] <Unit193> hyperair: It's been changed back in VCS, and I don't know exactly, older stuff for sure.
[06:58] <penko> to complete remove gnas, pepper and flashplugin-installer?
[06:58] <hyperair> oh
[06:59] <hyperair> penko: er yeah try removing everything and seeing if chromium starts
[06:59] <hyperair> i don't think it should be related...
[06:59] <hyperair> i haven't heard of any crash-at-startup bugs with chrome
[07:00] <JohnDoe_71Rus> penko: try find adobe-flashplugin
[07:00] <penko> in synaptic?
[07:02] <penko> wow. mozilla and youtube say that i need to install flash player but play video with all removed :)
[07:02] <JohnDoe_71Rus> activate additional repos cannonical
[07:03] <penko> crome also work
[07:03] <penko> and play video
[07:03] <hyperair> that's html5 video for you
[07:03] <penko> may be is better to don`t install anythong? now it work...
[07:04] <hyperair> flash is an outgoing technology, but unfortunately too many websites still use flash.
[07:04] <hyperair> some videos don't work without flash
[07:04] <hyperair> most videos do
[07:04] <hyperair> i'm not sure which videos though
[07:04] <penko> so, most sites will upgrade from flash to html5?
[07:04] <hyperair> no
[07:04] <hyperair> youtube only
[07:05] <hyperair> as time goes by, less and less websites will use flash though
[07:05] <penko> and other will continue using heavy (for old machines) flash?
[07:05] <hyperair> nah, most new websites don't use flash any more
[07:05] <hyperair> old websites just die out eventually
[07:05] <penko> is html5 light?
[07:05] <hyperair> lighter than flash, yeah
[07:05] <hateball> In itself, but it depends on the content it serves
[07:06] <hyperair> i don't think you'll find any flash implementation more lightweight than its corresponding html5 implementation
[07:06] <penko> it is enough to be lighter than flash :)
[07:06] <hyperair> html5 is just a new version of the html standard, which all webpages are rendered in
[07:07] <penko> uh. other video say that i need flash or html5 :(
[07:07] <hyperair> yeah, see. some videos don't work with html5 =\
[07:07] <hateball> penko: For youtube, make sure you browse to http://www.youtube.com/html5 and enable it
[07:07] <penko> to have flash or my browser to support html5
[07:07] <hyperair> hateball: even then i've encountered some youtube videos that refused to render with flash disabled
[07:08] <hyperair> the firefox version in lubuntu is new enough to have pretty complete support of html5
[07:08] <hateball> hyperair: I know, just saying
[07:09] <penko> ok. but it offer me to download chrome. i have chrome!???!?
[07:10] <penko> from firefox  vbox7.com doesn`t display videos. youtube display it, but vbox - don`t!
[07:10] <penko> to install only 1 package? flashplayer-installer?
[07:10] <penko> or to copy libflashplayer.so to *****
[07:14] <hateball> penko: use the installer from repo
[07:15] <penko> what does it mean?
[07:17] <hateball> penko: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[07:17] <penko> thanks. is it the same if i install it via synaptic?
[07:21] <penko> i do this, but now chrome try to freeze. i mean when i start clip and then try to write other address in address bar i can`t do this.
[07:21] <penko> mozilla doesn`t open videos in vbox
[07:22] <penko> in firefox youtube work
[07:23] <JohnDoe_71Rus> chrome use self flash plugin. they may be conflicted
[07:24] <penko> to remove flashplugin-installer and try with pepper?
[07:24] <penko> or to copy flashplugin only in mozilla dir?
[07:24] <penko> or to copy libflashplugin.so only in mozilla dir?
[07:29] <hateball> penko: Does chrome freeze immediately on startup or just once you start playing a video?
[07:30] <hateball> penko: If it is ok on startup, you can go into about:plugins and just deactivate adobe flash
[07:30] <penko> i open something and after this it is impossible to change address in address bar
[07:30] <penko> in chrome://plugins there is only  Chromoting Viewer
[07:31] <hateball> heh
[07:32] <penko> now i have opened chrome:plugins.  go to address bar and select all (double click) but when i start typing some site it doesn`t act
[07:52] <penko> also did i need to remove this   http://i61.tinypic.com/wvzcjc.png
[07:54] <hateball> penko: No
[08:13] <penko> ok. what to do to have working firefox and chrome in vbox, yuotube and other sites?
[10:18] <leszek> hi
[12:47] <YesItsMe> hi
[12:47] <YesItsMe> I have a shell bash I want to be autostarted when i start lubuntu 14.04
[12:47] <YesItsMe> I cant find the solution :(
[12:48] <YesItsMe> /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf does not exist in lubuntu 14.04
[13:27] <krytarik> YesItsMe: Have a look at this thread to get a good idea how things are right now with LightDM's config: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2205637
[13:34] <YesItsMe> krytarik: tnx
[13:36] <krytarik> YesItsMe: As for your other topic, we'd need more details though, I guess. :)
[16:52] <sentriz> does lubuntu/ubuntu have a keyboard shortcut for system settings/display settings? (can see barely anything on screen and the resolution is wrong)
[16:54] <leszek> alt+f2 and then type in lxrandr and enter
[16:57] <sentriz> nice one, thanks leszek. :)
[17:38] <wxl> hey you guys (said like chunk) is there an apt-cachey way to check on a package's recomments and suggests?
[17:39] <krytarik> wxl: "apt-cache show <package>"
[17:39] <wxl> krytarik: oh, duh, yeah
[17:40] <krytarik> lol
[18:32] <silverlion> o/
[22:00] <TaiSHi> Whenever I lock the computer, lock/login screen keymap is en_US, how can I change this? (system-wide layout is es_ES)
[22:09] <adm> need help getting the wireless card on hp pavilion to work
[22:09] <Unit193> What chip?
[22:12] <adm> not sure thank it is 4318
[22:15] <adm> bcm 4318
[22:16] <Unit193> !bcm
[22:16] <Unit193> Have one of those, not too bad.
[22:23] <TaiSHi> Anyone else had issues with nm wifi on 14.04 ?
[22:23] <TaiSHi> If I try to connect to a network, it asks for password but then it (disables?) the wlan
[22:23] <TaiSHi> If I configure the SSID manually it works like a charm
[23:56] <adm> ok i installed the b43 driver on my hp pavilion dv 5000 using lubutu the new version but it will not recognize the wireless card any help would be great
[23:59] <adm> *lubuntu 14.04