| penguin42 | which one? | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| daftykins | sandybridge asus laptop, the U36SD | 00:01 |
| mapps | yay | 00:49 |
| mapps | i can now use 4od over 3g | 00:49 |
| mapps | 3gunrestrictor ftw | 00:49 |
| daftykins | 0o | 00:51 |
| mapps | apps sop u using them on 3g | 00:57 |
| mapps | wifi only like 4od | 00:57 |
| mapps | which is annoying if you got unlimited | 00:57 |
| daftykins | Apple ;) | 00:58 |
| Azelphur | daftykins: did you hear about my hilarity with three? | 01:00 |
| Azelphur | I got them to disable tethering detection on my line lol | 01:00 |
| daftykins | :O that's pretty impressive | 01:01 |
| daftykins | how'd they go for that? :D | 01:01 |
| diddledan | o_O | 01:02 |
| diddledan | three let me tether for no extra | 01:02 |
| Azelphur | daftykins: I found an app which sends firefox as the HTTP User agent, and called them asking to fix it | 01:11 |
| Azelphur | they fixed it by disabling tethering detection | 01:11 |
| Azelphur | tl;dr, install pvstar+ and call three if it disconnects you :P | 01:11 |
| mapps | haha | 01:20 |
| mapps | app for what is this | 01:20 |
| Azelphur | mapps: it's just a youtube viewing apps, but lets you do it in the background (good for music) | 01:22 |
| mapps | AHH | 01:25 |
| mapps | yea | 01:26 |
| mapps | thatd be awesome if we had that on ios | 01:26 |
| mapps | i assume its for android? | 01:26 |
| mapps | hmm | 01:27 |
| Azelphur | mapps: yup, Android | 01:31 |
| Azelphur | iOS isn't the greatest of things :P | 01:31 |
| diddledan | ios isn't the greatest?! | 01:47 |
| diddledan | you .. you .. thingy | 01:47 |
| diddledan | I can't think of a suitable slur | 01:47 |
| diddledan | so thingy will now be my slur of choice | 01:48 |
| Azelphur | lol | 01:48 |
| mapps | woo judge judy | 02:09 |
| mapps | :D | 02:09 |
| daftykins | nn guys, have a good week | 02:36 |
| mapps | nn | 03:22 |
| MooDoo | moening all | 06:44 |
| jussi | moaning MooDoo | 06:46 |
| bashrc_ | morning | 06:46 |
| === bashrc_ is now known as bashrc | ||
| jussi | sigh... cold again | 06:48 |
| MooDoo | hayfever for me | 06:48 |
| jussi | MooDoo: I was talking about physical temperature, not sickness... | 06:49 |
| MooDoo | ah lol | 06:50 |
| mapps | ah hayfever sucks | 06:51 |
| MooDoo | yeah but i'll get some stuff for it at dinner and I'll be fine. | 06:52 |
| mapps | think i have that..whenever i go to my dads i cant stop sneezing..find it harder to breathe too | 06:52 |
| MooDoo | it's a pain in the neck if nothing else. | 06:54 |
| dwatkins | hey peeps | 07:17 |
| MooDoo | howdy dwatkins | 07:18 |
| dwatkins | Starting the day with a deep discussion on facebook is always fun. | 07:26 |
| diplo | Morning all | 07:26 |
| MooDoo | depends what the conversation is about | 07:26 |
| MooDoo | morning diplo | 07:27 |
| dwatkins | MooDoo: it started because I shared an image of a bunch of skeletons saying that we're all the same on the inside, whatever our race, religion or sexuality. | 07:27 |
| MooDoo | dwatkins: say no more :) | 07:27 |
| dwatkins | It's not a bad discussion, just a long one. | 07:27 |
| dwatkins | anyway, happy Monday people :) | 07:28 |
| MooDoo | :D | 07:28 |
| * dwatkins fires up a virtual machine and get out the big guns (wireshark) | 07:28 | |
| mapps | what you doing dwatkins | 07:34 |
| dwatkins | mapps: trying to get a definitive list of all the domains used by an application in order for a whitelist specification | 07:37 |
| DJones | Hmmh, phone died at the weekend & had to be replaced, cheap non contract phone actually seems quite reasonable for the price | 07:52 |
| MooDoo | DJones: i'm suck to death of my s3 crashing, I'm tempted to just bin it | 07:53 |
| DJones | Hah, new test hardware for the Ubuntu phone developed http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/28/chap_builds_mobe_based_on_raspberry_pi/ :) | 07:53 |
| DJones | MooDoo: I had a S3, then swapped with my wife once I got a N7 tablet & she needed a more reliable phone (than the Desire HD she was using), that finally died a death yesterday after getting stuck in the rom boot menu, picked up a £50 Alcatel OneTouch android phone which is pretty decent for what it is | 07:56 |
| MooDoo | DJones: I put cyanogen mod on it, but it's crashing every 2 mins :( | 07:59 |
| DJones | I was tempted to try that to see if it would rescue the phone, but decided I couldn't be bothered wasting the time to do it | 08:01 |
| * DJones installs 14.04 in virtualbox to try the upgrade to 14.10 | 08:03 | |
| bashrc | I'm also running cyanogen on a phone currently. Havn't had any crashes | 08:14 |
| ali1234 | cyanogen crashes all the time for me | 08:14 |
| ali1234 | almost every time i get a phone call | 08:14 |
| ali1234 | it never used to do this | 08:14 |
| ali1234 | i think my phone is too old now and it is triggering the watchdog | 08:15 |
| bashrc | yes, it's probably that the memory is too limited and the oom-killer is doing its thing | 08:16 |
| bashrc | a bit like a problem I was having on the Beaglebone | 08:17 |
| ali1234 | yeah that's also quite likely | 08:17 |
| DJones | When I come to upgrade, I might be tempted by the OnePlus One phone | 08:17 |
| ali1234 | why would you buy anything but nexus? seriously? | 08:17 |
| ali1234 | or maybe SGS | 08:17 |
| bashrc | I got a second hand nexus 4 | 08:17 |
| DJones | ali1234: Yeah, will probably end up being a choice between Nexus 5/SGS5/HTC M8 | 08:19 |
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| Myrtti | ooh errr. Nests on Google Play. I don't know how well they work in British homes though. We got OWL installed at ours. | 08:32 |
| dwatkins | are we the mice? | 08:33 |
| MooDoo | or are we men? | 08:35 |
| MartijnVdS | Myrtti: it won't work in mine -- I can only turn heating up (or down) by twisting knobs on my radiators | 08:36 |
| Myrtti | MartijnVdS: I saw an ad for thermostats like that in telly few days back, Danfoss apparently has some fancy new kit | 08:36 |
| jussi | MooDoo: we are but men, ROCK ON! | 08:38 |
| MartijnVdS | jussi: are we human? Or are we dancer? | 08:39 |
| MooDoo | jussi: pic of destiny ;) | 08:39 |
| MooDoo | yay LPIC-1 has arrived. | 08:51 |
| MooDoo | book | 08:51 |
| popey | retro | 08:53 |
| MooDoo | light reading for when I've done my MS exam next month lol | 08:54 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:31 |
| BigRedS | goood morning! | 09:32 |
| MooDoo | morning brobostigon BigRedS | 09:32 |
| brobostigon | morning MooDoo and BigRedS | 09:33 |
| Myrtti | I'd really prefer if the furry baby would jump and go sleep in his basket | 09:52 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 10:02 |
| jamieshepherd | Hi guys, up until about an hour ago the command : route add -net 141.163.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 dev ppp0 would work to route traffic to my Uni's VPN from my VPS (after I do pon plymuni) | 10:02 |
| jamieshepherd | However, now whenever I enter this command the whole VPS freezes | 10:02 |
| foobarry | can any scripting wiz show me the best way to extract a givenname field from a list of gecos and sn? python does "subtract" on strings doesn't it? | 10:03 |
| dwatkins | jamieshepherd: perhaps something has changed on the VPN; how are you connecting to the server? | 10:10 |
| jamieshepherd | That's what I thought, but I can connect on my laptop fine | 10:12 |
| jamieshepherd | Just on my VPS, I usually write pon plymuni, followed by adding the route | 10:12 |
| dwatkins | how are you connecting to it, jamieshepherd? | 10:13 |
| jamieshepherd | And it's worked literally for the past 3 weeks, and now it's presentation day about 1hr 30 away rofl and it doesn't work | 10:13 |
| jamieshepherd | Sorry, how do you mean? Through a VPN | 10:13 |
| dwatkins | before you activate the uni VPN, yeah | 10:13 |
| dwatkins | ssh, vnc, console access to the virtual machine through a browser? | 10:13 |
| jamieshepherd | How am I connecting to the VPS? Just ssh | 10:13 |
| dwatkins | does the OS freeze, or just your ssh connection to it? | 10:14 |
| jamieshepherd | But when I add that route command nothing responds, ssh closes, websites cease to work | 10:14 |
| jamieshepherd | Digital Ocean lists it as "Active" still but, nothing can connect traffic wise | 10:14 |
| jamieshepherd | So perhaps there is a clash | 10:14 |
| dwatkins | I assume you're stopping your own traffic from reaching it, then. | 10:14 |
| jamieshepherd | Here is my ifconfig: https://gist.github.com/jamieshepherd/11367656 | 10:15 |
| jamieshepherd | Could you see something that might be clashing here? | 10:15 |
| MartijnVdS | jamieshepherd: what's your local IP? Are you on the 141.163.0.0/16 network? | 10:17 |
| jamieshepherd | I am not no | 10:17 |
| jamieshepherd | Oh | 10:17 |
| jamieshepherd | That's a massive lie | 10:17 |
| jamieshepherd | I actually am | 10:17 |
| jamieshepherd | I'm at the Uni now.. This would make a lot of sense | 10:17 |
| dwatkins | perhaps the order of the routes has changed so it uses the VPN as the default when you execute the command | 10:17 |
| dwatkins | aha | 10:18 |
| MartijnVdS | jamieshepherd: It's trying to send all traffic to you over the VPN instead of directly :) | 10:18 |
| jamieshepherd | Ah of course, well that was dumb of me | 10:18 |
| dwatkins | easily sorted, though :) | 10:18 |
| jamieshepherd | At least i know what's causing it now, just means I can't connect to the website from the Uni I guess | 10:18 |
| jamieshepherd | Is there a way I could get it working for this presentation? | 10:18 |
| MartijnVdS | jamieshepherd: try using 'ip link', 'ip route' and 'ip addr' -- they're the "new" tools :) | 10:19 |
| dwatkins | whereabouts is the website, jamieshepherd? | 10:19 |
| jamieshepherd | Amsterdam | 10:19 |
| dwatkins | I mean in network terms | 10:19 |
| jamieshepherd | I'm sorry, I don't understand | 10:20 |
| dwatkins | why can't you access it directly right now? | 10:20 |
| jamieshepherd | Away from the Uni, i.e. not on the network | 10:20 |
| jamieshepherd | So anywhere else I can connect to the website, just at the Uni I cannot | 10:20 |
| jamieshepherd | Because of the reason MartijnVdS said I suppose | 10:20 |
| MartijnVdS | then don't set the route? | 10:20 |
| dwatkins | so you need to set the VPN as the default route? | 10:21 |
| dwatkins | I'm guessing here. | 10:21 |
| jamieshepherd | Times out without the route | 10:21 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: you don't want that! | 10:21 |
| MartijnVdS | jamieshepherd: I always see how to fix network/routing things best when drawing them on a piece of paper | 10:22 |
| MartijnVdS | jamieshepherd: machines (nodes) as squares, with a line for each network interface | 10:22 |
| dwatkins | good plan | 10:22 |
| MartijnVdS | include your local machine, both ends of the VPN, your server, etc. | 10:23 |
| MartijnVdS | the website too | 10:23 |
| jamieshepherd | [My Machine]--connected to Uni VPN--[Uni VPN]--connected to uni VPN--[Amsterdam VPS] | 10:23 |
| jamieshepherd | only problem is the presentation is about an hour away | 10:23 |
| jamieshepherd | so was just wondering if there might be a quick fix | 10:24 |
| dwatkins | can you access other ports on the server? | 10:24 |
| MartijnVdS | jamieshepherd: also consider what the VPN is running on (the interface(s) it's using) | 10:24 |
| MartijnVdS | jamieshepherd: also, a real drawing works best because you can add *all* the network interfaces | 10:24 |
| jamieshepherd | PPTP | 10:25 |
| MartijnVdS | (a VPN is a connection inside a connection) | 10:25 |
| jamieshepherd | Well, at least I know what the problem is | 10:26 |
| jamieshepherd | Just don't have time to fix it before the presentation | 10:26 |
| jamieshepherd | So I'll just tether my phone on 3G and connect my laptop to that ;D | 10:26 |
| jamieshepherd | Thanks for your help anyway guys much appreciated as always <3 | 10:26 |
| dwatkins | sounds like quite a restrictive university network | 10:27 |
| jamieshepherd | Yeah they're almost as clueless as me I think | 10:27 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: A VPS sounds like a weird place to terminate a VPN to me:) | 10:27 |
| jamieshepherd | Pretty sure it's run by students | 10:27 |
| jamieshepherd | The VPS is one I own Martin | 10:27 |
| jamieshepherd | DigitalOcean droplet | 10:27 |
| jamieshepherd | Unrelated to the Uni ^ | 10:27 |
| jamieshepherd | It's just, the database for the application has to be hosted at the Uni | 10:27 |
| MartijnVdS | sure.. but usually you run a VPN connection to a secured network from your local workstation | 10:28 |
| MartijnVdS | not from a random VPS | 10:28 |
| jamieshepherd | So I had to do some retarded routing from my VPS website to the database | 10:28 |
| jamieshepherd | Yeah the VPS hosts a website, which uses features of teh database on the Uni network | 10:28 |
| MartijnVdS | you could just a add a route to *just the database server*, instead of the entire /16 | 10:28 |
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| foobarry | wonder if anyone can help me approach this problem? | 11:46 |
| foobarry | probably with some bash script | 11:46 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: which problem was that again? | 11:47 |
| foobarry | need to do a large ldap modify. list of givenname fields to go with surnames | 11:47 |
| foobarry | i have a text file of givenname.txt and gecos.txt | 11:47 |
| foobarry | i want to create an ldif file that says, line by line, | 11:48 |
| foobarry | add a given name of the xth line gecos entry to be the xth line of the givenname file | 11:49 |
| foobarry | i can do the ldap bit, but not the bashy bit | 11:50 |
| foobarry | for a single file i do for x in 'cat file' do echo x done | 11:50 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: this sounds like an awk kind of job | 11:51 |
| dwatkins | it's handy that there are so many types of Chrome/Chromium I can install, I'm running three separate instances of it at the moment. | 11:52 |
| foobarry | MartijnVdS: you may be right :D | 11:52 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: or Perl, because awk is awkward :) | 12:04 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: let me whip something up :) | 12:04 |
| foobarry | wow cheers | 12:05 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: untested, needs modification, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7352024/ | 12:09 |
| foobarry | great, thankyou | 12:10 |
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| jussi | MooDoo: you about? | 12:24 |
| foobarry | MartijnVdS: works perfect, cheers | 12:24 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: \o/ | 12:26 |
| dwatkins | looking at snippets of Perl like this is a good way to learn a language | 12:44 |
| dwatkins | I assume you used 'chomp' to remove the newline at the end of each line, MartijnVdS | 12:45 |
| MartijnVdS | yes | 12:45 |
| MartijnVdS | not really necessary if you extract the fields (using regexes or split or something) anyway. | 12:46 |
| dwatkins | still a good programming practise, I imagine | 12:46 |
| MartijnVdS | Yeah.. though I don't read a lot of text files these days ;) | 12:47 |
| MartijnVdS | mostly database work | 12:47 |
| dwatkins | I'm still learning how to do that from PHP. I assume it's not something you would do from JavaScript, though, as it's client-side. | 12:48 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: I'm assuming there'd be a global object/API to do that | 12:49 |
| MartijnVdS | in "stand-alone" javascript | 12:49 |
| dwatkins | MartijnVdS: probably, but if I'm writing the entire site, I assume it's best to not give anything external access to the database, and have the PHP retreive data from the server itself. | 12:50 |
| MooDoo | jussi: wassup? | 12:50 |
| dwatkins | ah I see what you mean, executing a JS file directly, perhaps yeah. | 12:50 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: yes, that does sound useful :) Except that it's still PHP :P | 12:51 |
| dwatkins | yeah, I imagine mostly JS is used for things like resizing a page, forms and so on, not database connectivity | 12:51 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: have a look at nodejs and be scared ;) | 12:52 |
| dwatkins | MartijnVdS: I will be doing that eventually, gotta learn basic JS and jquery first. | 12:53 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: but.. also.. you want a very thing "API" layer that does nothing but handle requests for data from a (JS) front-end | 12:53 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: have a look at Angular :) | 12:53 |
| MartijnVdS | https://angularjs.org/ | 12:53 |
| dwatkins | thin, I assume you mean ;) | 12:53 |
| MartijnVdS | thin, yes | 12:54 |
| dwatkins | interesting, thanks - I assume that's mostly about formatting the data | 12:55 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: also about retrievign it | 12:57 |
| dwatkins | I'm jumping the gun a bit and assuming that you wouldn't want your users to have access to any kind of database ever, but I guess if they're just reading from it via some kind of interface that presents as http or something, that's fine | 12:59 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: That sounds good. Except if your database has programmable access controls (like an HTTP server has -- you write the controllers that present the data to the client side :)) | 13:01 |
| MartijnVdS | then the client side uses the HTTP output as its model | 13:01 |
| MartijnVdS | all very dynamic and JS and hip and modern | 13:01 |
| * dwatkins puts on his horn-rimmed glasses | 13:02 | |
| === marcushaslam_ is now known as marcushaslam | ||
| dwatkins | no really, I have some on my desk (they're a prop) | 13:02 |
| MartijnVdS | were they.. propped up by something? | 13:03 |
| dwatkins | badum tschhhhhhh | 13:04 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: Can you see PROPerly with them? | 13:04 |
| dwatkins | http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0063CZWRU/ | 13:04 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 13:35 |
| diddledan | morning | 13:35 |
| bashrc | morning | 13:56 |
| bashrc | turned out nice again | 13:56 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk | ||
| === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g | ||
| Azelphur | Yup, Ubuntu 14.04 is a lesson in frustration for me, copy paste doesn't even work properly any more :( | 15:58 |
| Azelphur | yay for the continual degradation of multi screen support \o/ | 15:58 |
| bashrc | 14.04 seems ok to me | 15:59 |
| Azelphur | bashrc: yea, this bug won't affect you unless you have separate X screens | 16:00 |
| dwatkins | copy & paste was always a bit hit & miss for me, especially as there was never a consistent keyboard shortcut for it across all applications | 16:02 |
| Azelphur | yea, the way Linux handles it is a little bizarre, rather than pulling into memory it just expects the data to still be there in the original application when you paste | 16:03 |
| Azelphur | I've copied something out of chrome, closed the tab, then tried to paste it so many times by accident. | 16:03 |
| davmor2 | Azelphur: wait till gnome drop middle mouse copy/paste :D | 16:03 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 16:03 |
| dwatkins | that's the thing, though - there are both Gnome and app-specific mechanisms for copying and pasting | 16:03 |
| Azelphur | yea | 16:04 |
| Azelphur | I have a feeling it's the gnome ones that are broken, I can copy from other applications (firefox) but not from gnome ones (terminal, gedit, ...) | 16:04 |
| bashrc | ah, so far I usually only have one screen, aothough currently I am using two | 16:07 |
| penguin42 | hmph, that's annoying - the latest version of the newsblur android app requires Android 3, and I don't think the old one is working any more | 18:08 |
| popey | Dishwasher is broken. Having to wash crockery by hand. It's like the DARK AGES here! #firstworldproblems | 19:05 |
| penguin42 | how many extra glasses/plates/takeaways have you ordered to avoid that | 19:07 |
| davmor2 | popey: you could always just fix the dishwasher instead :D | 19:08 |
| popey | this evenings meal was made with only one pan ☻ | 19:18 |
| popey | i have googled, seems the "float" is broken | 19:18 |
| popey | or clogged, the moter runs constantly to pump out water, even when it's empty | 19:18 |
| foobarry | ah | 19:22 |
| foobarry | i get that | 19:22 |
| foobarry | u have a bosch exccel by any chance? | 19:22 |
| foobarry | get to 0 mins and its still chugging | 19:22 |
| foobarry | popey: i get it quite a bit, i haven't yet had to take the side off the dishwasher yet, although soemtimes it gets bad for a whole week | 19:23 |
| davmor2 | popey: possibly water logged float maybe | 19:23 |
| foobarry | usually it's either some foil/sweetcorn under the drain bit. i ensure the drainage bit at the bottom is clean completely | 19:24 |
| foobarry | then pour a little washing up liquid, boiling water and leave a little while | 19:24 |
| foobarry | then press the buttons to reset the cycle | 19:24 |
| foobarry | which manually drainsthe water | 19:24 |
| foobarry | then pour v hot water in the bottom bit again and start a hot wash without many dishes in | 19:25 |
| foobarry | usually it clears after a while | 19:25 |
| popey | no, neff | 19:25 |
| popey | its a built in machine though | 19:26 |
| popey | there's a little tap icon in the display | 19:26 |
| popey | I'll give that a try, thanks | 19:26 |
| mapps | evening | 19:26 |
| popey | I did pour hot water in earlier, but I think it's knotted up with cheese | 19:26 |
| popey | wifey cleaned the filter the other day | 19:27 |
| penguin42 | under maintenance? | 19:27 |
| popey | I believe these are related | 19:27 |
| daftykins | built-in units can be a real son of a gun | 19:27 |
| daftykins | had this one in Portsmouth that nobody could work out how to remove | 19:27 |
| mapps | hm | 19:27 |
| foobarry | i tell my wife its not a waste disposal unit | 19:27 |
| foobarry | http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?%2Ftopic%2F234959926-airfix-124-hawker-typhoon-on-the-flight-line%2F | 19:27 |
| popey | i think she sufficiently dislodged cheese into the bottom | 19:27 |
| foobarry | wow, that is a stunning model plane | 19:28 |
| popey | that is impressive | 19:28 |
| diddledan | just got done watching white house down - I feel patriotic. | 20:28 |
| daftykins | diddledan: for Brits? :) | 20:31 |
| daftykins | or to... rather | 20:31 |
| diddledan | foobarry, that's impressive | 20:32 |
| diddledan | daftykins, unfortunately for america | 20:32 |
| diddledan | I dang near cried when the lil girl waved the president's flag to ward off an air strike | 20:33 |
| daftykins | XD | 20:34 |
| * diddledan looking through movies. got to the matrix. I'm trying to remember the name of the wachowski brother - for some reason Lana's name springs to mind easily but her brother I can't remember | 20:39 | |
| diddledan | and post sexchange, are they to be referred to as "the wachowskis" or "the wachowski siblings"? | 20:40 |
| diddledan | wiki says it's the former - interesting bit about a netflix series they're making to debut later in the year | 20:44 |
| daftykins | ah yesi'd forgotten about that | 20:46 |
| maps|wrk | hai | 21:21 |
| daftykins | o hai | 21:24 |
| maps|wrk | sup daftykins ? | 21:27 |
| daftykins | not much sir | 21:34 |
| daftykins | just gaming | 21:34 |
| popey | \o/ Jabber | 21:50 |
| MattJ | Jabber \o/ | 21:51 |
| Azelphur | Jabber party \o/ | 22:12 |
| Azelphur | it has been a while :p | 22:12 |
| daftykins | i never get why you lot used to say that | 22:15 |
| popey | its a greeting | 22:17 |
| maps|wrk | fail to see how people love this bbc show the callcentre | 22:19 |
| maps|wrk | it's pretty dull, watching it on iplayer atm | 22:19 |
| popey | i dislike people like that so find it hard to watch | 22:20 |
| maps|wrk | kinda amusing when the managers say to young staff ..'youve got potential you just need to change your attitude' ./..seriously it's a call centre, | 22:21 |
| daftykins | what kind of people popey? | 22:23 |
| maps|wrk | self serving idiots that run basic companies and try to portray it off as something more than it is? | 22:27 |
| maps|wrk | it's a call centre that makes nuisance calls thats all..nothing more imo | 22:27 |
| daftykins | :/ | 22:27 |
| daftykins | sounds terrible | 22:27 |
| maps|wrk | well i mean, any of us could run a call centre like that..pay people minimum wage, make nuisance calls to get people to have insulation etc and make money off the grants | 22:29 |
| maps|wrk | but its still..nothing more than that | 22:29 |
| penguin42 | popey: you mean the type of call centres that lower the level to which the turing test has to reach? | 23:10 |
| popey | I mean, I don't like outgoing pushy people ☻ | 23:11 |
| penguin42 | yeh, me neither | 23:11 |
| maps|wrk | yea me too..he's the kinda clown that'd embarass you infront of everyone and tihnk it's ok | 23:15 |
| maps|wrk | *think | 23:15 |
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