[02:35] <liw_> 你好
[02:36] <liw_> 没人说话？？
[02:36] <holstein> liw_: whats your quesiton?
[02:37] <holstein> !ch
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[02:37] <liw_> 没问题，试试是否有人在
[02:38] <holstein> !cn
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[02:38] <holstein> liw_: ^
[02:39] <holstein> 我不说你的语言
[02:39] <IotaSpencer> heh
[02:39]  * IotaSpencer <3 utf-8 + jp packs
[02:40] <IotaSpencer> (since thats whats allowing it for me)
[07:19] <wickedheadache> wow
[08:09] <wickedheadache> is it posible to get real time?
[08:12] <zequence> wickedheadache: With jack you mean? With U
[08:12] <zequence> With Ubuntu Studio you have that by default
[08:13] <wickedheadache> it's "realtime" and not generic, i can't tell by reading the site itself what is downloaded
[08:13] <wickedheadache> ??
[08:13] <wickedheadache> sorry that was a question
[08:14] <wickedheadache> from reading i am assumeing "low latency is default... i have no idea
[08:16] <wickedheadache> well i'll try looking at the iso...
[08:19] <zequence> wickedheadache: You mean is there a realtime kernel?
[08:20] <zequence> This is not equal to getting realtime
[08:20] <zequence> There's no realtime kernel in the Ubuntu repo
[08:20] <wickedheadache> yea its been a while since i've been around to ask
[08:20] <wickedheadache> that's fine
[08:21] <wickedheadache> i'm guessing it's in beta or called something else now...
[08:31] <zequence> wickedheadache: As I said, therers no realtime kernel in the Ubuntu repos
[08:32] <zequence> Hasn't been a real one since 9.10
[08:32] <zequence> linux-lowlatency is a preemptive kernel with no realtime patch. It's ok for most use cases, and is what we have by default in Ubuntu Studio
[08:33] <zequence> We might reintroduce it as an alternative, if someone gets around to do the work. Maintaining it is a bit more work, and it's also prone to more unforseen bugs
[08:36] <wickedheadache> of course, wish i could help =/
[08:37] <wickedheadache> it was worth it i think, i was unaware it was needed its own support entirely
[08:38] <wickedheadache> craziness
[09:24] <wickedheadache> what do you do for pci-E  latencies? is that hw locked?
[09:25] <zequence> wickedheadache: pci-E latencies should be lower than for PCI. The kernel takes care of that, pretty much
[09:26] <zequence> reliable preemptiveness may come down to other variables though, such as shared IRQ
[09:27] <zequence> or as OvenWerk1 often points out, processor type (hyperthreading can be bad), and which mode it is running at (ondemand, or performance)
[09:28] <zequence> To find out what you can push from your kernel, you can use the tools in the rt-tests package3
[09:28] <wickedheadache>  well not only that but there is pci schedualing to the cpu and crap sopposedly handled with some hw i assume,
[09:28] <wickedheadache> yea that would be helpful
[09:29] <zequence> pci-E has a shorter route to processing, so to my understanding, at least in theory, it should be more reliable in lower latencies under the right circumstances
[09:29] <wickedheadache> was a time i was attempting to figure out why there was no agp x16 ettc xD
[09:30] <wickedheadache> but i have little hands on with pci e x or etc
[09:30] <wickedheadache> hopes this changes soon
[09:31] <wickedheadache> i have pci-e now yea
[09:34] <wickedheadache> pci-e is also digital/full duplex?
[09:34] <wickedheadache> >agp
[09:36] <zequence> "a PCIe bus link supports full-duplex communication between any two endpoints, with no inherent limitation on concurrent access across multiple endpoints", from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express
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[15:51] <Guest98969> hello, does somebody else have problems whith the root-password in a fresh ubuntu 14.04 installation ? sometimes it works, sometimes not
[16:42] <IotaSpencer> I've noticed that after a install that i can't login to my user after the second restart
[16:42] <IotaSpencer> so, install, restart, good, apt-get update and upgrade, restart, dead
[16:43] <IotaSpencer> though I think that's being ubuntu in general
[17:11] <Guest98969> whith the user-login i never had problems, it is only when doing "sudo"
[17:29] <zequence> IotaSpencer: That could be that the keyboard layout changed to US english, if you didn't have that originally
[17:30] <zequence> ah, or you mean it won't boot at all?
[17:30] <zequence> i've had some weird problems with sudo at times, caused by a crash, now that I think of it
[17:30] <zequence> The only way to fix it was to reboot
[17:30] <zequence> If I was able
[17:31] <IotaSpencer> I get to the graphical login where you either see and hear the ubuntu sound or you get the ubuntustudio screen, after putting in my password it disappears and reappears no red or nothing, like it doesn't like me
[17:46] <zequence> IotaSpencer: Some kind of problem in user settings
[17:46] <IotaSpencer> care to elaborate if you can
[17:48] <zequence> IotaSpencer: You can probably login using Ctl+Alt+F1. Then, remove settings from your home folder, that have anything to do with the Desktop environment
[17:48] <zequence> If you feel bold, and don't care to readjust some applications, you could just delete folders such as ~/.config and ~/.cache
[17:49] <zequence> Next time you login, anything that had it settings there will have default settings
[17:50] <zequence> In XFCE I've seen that a few times, that user settings get corrupted somehow