darkxst | bigon, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/gdm_3.10.0.1-0ubuntu3_3.10.0.1-0ubuntu4.diff.gz | 05:30 |
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darkxst | you guys probably want those changes ;) | 05:31 |
darkxst | ahoneybun, hi, finally back from my lack of internet, sorry I forget where you where at, build failures on something? | 05:36 |
bigon | darkxst: thx :) | 07:06 |
bigon | they are already in our svn I think, the systemd support for DM was been cooked by pitti and joss during our sprint last weekend | 07:07 |
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darkxst | bigon, right, I just stole pitti's work anyway ;) ' | 08:19 |
bigon | :) | 08:32 |
mgedmin | upgraded to 3.12 from gnome3-staging; things seem fine | 10:50 |
mgedmin | upgrade was a bit painful: gnome-settings-daemon-schemas 3.12 conflicts with unity-settings-daemon (which wants g-s-d-s << 3.10) | 10:50 |
mgedmin | apt-get couldn't find reasonable solutions (either held a lot back or wanted to remove the ubuntu-gnome-desktop metapackage); aptitude dist-upgrade found one (remove unity metapackage as well as unity-settings-daemon and unity-control-center) | 10:51 |
mgedmin | tracker-extract keeps segfaulting (bug 1304129); it's hard to debug without debug symbols | 10:53 |
darkxst | mgedmin, install the symbols then! | 10:53 |
mgedmin | where can I find them? | 10:53 |
mgedmin | this is tracker-extract 1.0.0-1ubuntu1~trusty1 from the ppa; so far I only found the -dbgsym packages for 0.16.2-1ubuntu4 from trusty/universe | 10:55 |
ricotz | mgedmin, additionally add "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3-staging/ubuntu trusty main/debug" | 11:01 |
mgedmin | ooh, main/debug? does this exist for all PPAs? | 11:01 |
ricotz | no, just for those which support it | 11:02 |
mgedmin | is this documented somewhere? my google failed | 11:02 |
ricotz | not sure, but i dont think | 11:02 |
darkxst | mgedmin, probably not documented but all gnome3-team ppa's support ddebs | 11:07 |
darkxst | apport-retrace picks them up automatically, but otherwise as ricotz said you need to add main/debug | 11:07 |
darkxst | mgedmin, we also have a retracer running (probably the only ppa with one) so if you submit crashes, they will get retraced ;) | 11:08 |
mgedmin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1304129 did not get retraced | 11:09 |
darkxst | mgedmin, yes it did, but coredump was invalid | 11:10 |
mgedmin | maybe I should've allowed apport to submit a new bug instead of deciding it was a duplicate | 11:10 |
mgedmin | "package libtracker-miner-1.0-0 does not exist, ignoring" seems to indicate that the retracer bot did not have the ppa enabled? | 11:10 |
mgedmin | well, it was before the release... | 11:11 |
mgedmin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1309073 might've been after | 11:11 |
darkxst | mgedmin, occasionally retracer fumbles and things get blocked.... these things bit-rot fast ;( | 11:12 |
mgedmin | anyway I've seen the segfault twice now in two days; with debug symbols available locally hopefully I'll get a full stacktrace tomorrow | 11:12 |
darkxst | mgedmin, ok CC me on bug report once you can provide that | 11:13 |
darkxst | mgedmin, also provided you don't need interactive debugging, apport-retrace works really well to analyse crash dumps ;) | 11:14 |
mgedmin | hey, good idea | 11:14 |
mgedmin | I still have the /var/crash/... file | 11:15 |
darkxst | mgedmin, aka, click' examine locally' in the | 11:15 |
darkxst | apport pop-up | 11:15 |
darkxst | (only shows if apport-retrace is installed though) | 11:15 |
mgedmin | hm, but it already contains the (incomplete) stack trace | 11:16 |
mgedmin | I see I don't have apport-retrace installed | 11:16 |
darkxst | mgedmin, that was either bit-rot, or an invalid core-dump | 11:16 |
darkxst | probably the first | 11:16 |
darkxst | ricotz, so packaging branches? git or bzr? | 11:18 |
darkxst | my preference would be for git, I still don't like bzr much! | 11:19 |
mgedmin | stack trace produced by apport-retrace from the crash dump: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7358761/ | 11:20 |
ricotz | is there really a choice here? | 11:20 |
ricotz | https://code.launchpad.net/~gnome3-team | 11:21 |
darkxst | ricotz, also gdm in -staging will now boot off systemd ;) | 11:21 |
ricotz | oh :) | 11:21 |
ricotz | wasnt brave enough yet to switch | 11:22 |
darkxst | ricotz, bzr merges are a huge pain when the branches are not aligned ;) | 11:22 |
ricotz | hmm, so i guess you would prefer a github repo? | 11:23 |
* mgedmin tries to figure out if pull-lp-source can fetch source packages from PPAs | 11:24 | |
darkxst | mgedmin, I don't think so | 11:24 |
darkxst | use chdist | 11:24 |
darkxst | ricotz, github would work | 11:25 |
darkxst | mgedmin, please add that trace to a bug report, I am off for the night | 11:33 |
mgedmin | darkxst, is it enough to link to the pastebin, or do you want an attachment? | 11:34 |
darkxst | mgedmin, attach it, pastebin's tend to expire sometimes | 11:34 |
darkxst | mgedmin, also `t a a bt full` can be nice if you can reproduce it ;) | 11:35 |
mgedmin | oops, I forgot the 'full' | 11:35 |
mgedmin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1304129/comments/7 seems pretty clear | 11:36 |
mgedmin | now I'd like to find the upstream bug tracker | 11:36 |
darkxst | b.g.i | 11:38 |
darkxst | b.g.o | 11:38 |
mgedmin | thanks | 11:38 |
darkxst | but might already be fixed in tracker 1.0... | 11:38 |
mgedmin | yup, it is fixed: https://github.com/GNOME/tracker/blob/master/src/libtracker-miner/tracker-decorator.c#L331 | 11:39 |
mgedmin | in https://github.com/GNOME/tracker/commit/a1efdb7691542c4a871b3bd4d0aefe6aa34012f8 | 11:40 |
mgedmin | 7 days ago | 11:40 |
darkxst | mgedmin, ok link upstream bug to lp report | 11:41 |
* darkxst has to run now | 11:41 | |
mgedmin | there was no upstream release with this fix | 11:41 |
darkxst | mgedmin, and/or feel free to send through a debdiff with the patch added | 11:42 |
mgedmin | ;) | 11:42 |
ricotz | darkxst, ok, i would prefer one branch per cycle containing all packagings | 11:43 |
ricotz | mgedmin, better get upstream to do a release ;) | 11:43 |
darkxst | ricotz, right, I guess if we have trusty, utopic etc branches, can just cherry-pick relevent bits as needed | 11:45 |
ricotz | mgedmin, ah, this wasnt even cherry picked to 1.0 yet | 11:46 |
darkxst | ricotz, or maybe it really needs to be trusty-3.10, 3.12 etc ? gah anyway need to sleep | 11:46 |
ricotz | darkxst, right, better gnome-3.10-trusty, gnome-3.12-trusty and so on ;) | 11:46 |
ricotz | darkxst, ciao | 11:47 |
darkxst | ricotz, night | 11:47 |
ricotz | mgedmin, pushed tracker including that patch | 11:55 |
mgedmin | \o/ | 11:55 |
majod | anyone running with efi partition? | 13:13 |
majod | i have seriously long booting times and i think its because of that | 13:13 |
majod | i have ultrafast boot enabled in bios. while i had win8.1, i saw post screen, then windows logo for 2 seconds and after that could enter my password...but now, i see post screen, then theres blank grey screen with dark grey border for about 5 seconds and PC is doing nothing...then it disappears to black screen and finally i see ssd working for another 5 seconds...only then i see login screen | 13:16 |
majod | i wonder whats going on during the first grey image | 13:16 |
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weierophinney | is it possible to do a dist-upgrade from vanilla ubuntu to ubuntu gnome? | 15:43 |
xnox | weierophinney: install ubuntu-gnome, remove ubuntu-desktop, keep the difference. | 15:55 |
xnox | weierophinney: some minor things might get stuck weird e.g. some gsettings et.al. | 15:55 |
eurythmia | install ubuntu-gnome-desktop | 15:56 |
xnox | ah, yeah weierophinney ^ | 15:58 |
weierophinney | eurythmia: that's it? Really? | 15:59 |
weierophinney | I assume I also need to do the PPA purge, correct? | 15:59 |
eurythmia | weierophinney: that installs gnome, gdm, and all the standard stuff in the ubuntu gnome dist. You *can* remove ubuntu-desktop if you'd like, but it's not necessary. | 16:00 |
weierophinney | cool -- looks like I can do that _now_, and then upgrade to 14.04 when done with that. | 16:00 |
eurythmia | weierophinney: xnox's warning about some minor weirdness hanging around still stands though. | 16:00 |
weierophinney | eurythmia: I figured. I've had minor wierdness since switching to gnome-shell a couple years ago anyways. | 16:01 |
eurythmia | weierophinney: no need to do PPA purge ... ubuntu and ubuntu gnome *are* the same distro with different user interfaces. | 16:01 |
weierophinney | I'm just hoping this will be _less_ wierdness. :) | 16:01 |
holstein | weierophinney: could be due to ppa use.. try the default ubuntu packages | 16:01 |
weierophinney | ah, okay. | 16:01 |
weierophinney | rigt -- that's what I was getting at. I have the gnome3- ppa currently. I should purge that one? | 16:02 |
holstein | weierophinney: you should keep in mind, if you have issues with it, you get support from the ppa maintainers.. otherwise, i would just try both | 16:02 |
weierophinney | okay | 16:03 |
weierophinney | excellent -- wasn't aware of the ubuntu-gnome-desktop metapackage. That will be nice to try out. | 16:03 |
weierophinney | Thanks, all! | 16:03 |
holstein | if you are saying, i have always had issue with gnome, and always used the ppa, try the default repo packages.. at least you can get support from the larger ubuntu community | 16:04 |
weierophinney | holstein: agreed, thx | 16:05 |
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SonikkuAmerica | darkxst: Good job cutting it down to 2 PPAs. Couldn't have done it better imho | 17:02 |
majod | anyone can help me find out why booting my OS takes so long? :/ | 17:47 |
x-Na | Wild guess, one of your usb devices | 17:52 |
x-Na | I had that problem, powered down my HP 1018 LaserJet and booted normally | 17:54 |
x-Na | Then I noticed that hplip was again installed, which causes problems | 17:55 |
majod | my only usb devices are keyboard and mouse... | 17:55 |
majod | when i turn on my pc, after post screen it shows grey screen for about 5 seconds and do nothing... | 17:56 |
majod | only after that i see my ssd working | 17:56 |
x-Na | Ok, I did find a thread somewhere about the issue, do not know if there are bugs reported | 18:00 |
[Ch4m3l30n] | majod: you might want to make a Boot Chart to see what's going on... http://www.bootchart.org/ | 18:02 |
majod | [Ch4m3l30n]: thanks, will try! | 18:29 |
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