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darkxstbigon, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/gdm_3.10.0.1-0ubuntu3_3.10.0.1-0ubuntu4.diff.gz05:30
darkxstyou guys probably want those changes ;)05:31
darkxstahoneybun, hi, finally back from my lack of internet, sorry I forget where you where at, build failures on something?05:36
bigondarkxst: thx :)07:06
bigonthey are already in our svn I think, the systemd support for DM was been cooked by pitti and joss during our sprint last weekend07:07
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darkxstbigon, right, I just stole pitti's work anyway ;) '08:19
bigon:)08:32
mgedminupgraded to 3.12 from gnome3-staging; things seem fine10:50
mgedminupgrade was a bit painful: gnome-settings-daemon-schemas 3.12 conflicts with unity-settings-daemon (which wants g-s-d-s << 3.10)10:50
mgedminapt-get couldn't find reasonable solutions (either held a lot back or wanted to remove the ubuntu-gnome-desktop metapackage); aptitude dist-upgrade found one (remove unity metapackage as well as unity-settings-daemon and unity-control-center)10:51
mgedmintracker-extract keeps segfaulting (bug 1304129); it's hard to debug without debug symbols10:53
darkxstmgedmin, install the symbols then!10:53
mgedminwhere can I find them?10:53
mgedminthis is tracker-extract 1.0.0-1ubuntu1~trusty1 from the ppa; so far I only found the -dbgsym packages for 0.16.2-1ubuntu4 from trusty/universe10:55
ricotzmgedmin, additionally add "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3-staging/ubuntu trusty main/debug"11:01
mgedminooh, main/debug?  does this exist for all PPAs?11:01
ricotzno, just for those which support it11:02
mgedminis this documented somewhere?  my google failed11:02
ricotznot sure, but i dont think11:02
darkxstmgedmin, probably not documented but all gnome3-team ppa's support ddebs11:07
darkxstapport-retrace picks them up automatically, but otherwise as ricotz said you need to add main/debug11:07
darkxstmgedmin, we also have a retracer running (probably the only ppa with one) so if you submit crashes, they will get retraced ;)11:08
mgedminhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1304129 did not get retraced11:09
darkxstmgedmin, yes it did, but coredump was invalid11:10
mgedminmaybe I should've allowed apport to submit a new bug instead of deciding it was a duplicate11:10
mgedmin"package libtracker-miner-1.0-0 does not exist, ignoring" seems to indicate that the retracer bot did not have the ppa enabled?11:10
mgedminwell, it was before the release...11:11
mgedminhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1309073 might've been after11:11
darkxstmgedmin, occasionally retracer fumbles and things get blocked.... these things bit-rot fast ;(11:12
mgedminanyway I've seen the segfault twice now in two days; with debug symbols available locally hopefully I'll get a full stacktrace tomorrow11:12
darkxstmgedmin, ok CC me on bug report once you can provide that11:13
darkxstmgedmin, also provided you don't need interactive debugging, apport-retrace works really well to analyse crash dumps ;)11:14
mgedminhey, good idea11:14
mgedminI still have the /var/crash/... file11:15
darkxstmgedmin, aka, click' examine locally' in the11:15
darkxst apport pop-up11:15
darkxst(only shows if apport-retrace is installed though)11:15
mgedminhm, but it already contains the (incomplete) stack trace11:16
mgedminI see I don't have apport-retrace installed11:16
darkxstmgedmin, that was either bit-rot, or an invalid core-dump11:16
darkxstprobably the first11:16
darkxstricotz, so packaging branches? git or bzr?11:18
darkxstmy preference would be for git, I still don't like bzr much!11:19
mgedminstack trace produced by apport-retrace from the crash dump: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7358761/11:20
ricotzis there really a choice here?11:20
ricotzhttps://code.launchpad.net/~gnome3-team11:21
darkxstricotz, also gdm in -staging will now boot off systemd ;)11:21
ricotzoh :)11:21
ricotzwasnt brave enough yet to switch11:22
darkxstricotz, bzr merges are a huge pain when the branches are not aligned ;)11:22
ricotzhmm, so i guess you would prefer a github repo?11:23
* mgedmin tries to figure out if pull-lp-source can fetch source packages from PPAs11:24
darkxstmgedmin, I don't think so11:24
darkxstuse chdist11:24
darkxstricotz, github would work11:25
darkxstmgedmin, please add that trace to a bug report, I am off for the night11:33
mgedmindarkxst, is it enough to link to the pastebin, or do you want an attachment?11:34
darkxstmgedmin, attach it, pastebin's tend to expire sometimes11:34
darkxstmgedmin, also `t a a bt full` can be nice if you can reproduce it ;)11:35
mgedminoops, I forgot the 'full'11:35
mgedminhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1304129/comments/7 seems pretty clear11:36
mgedminnow I'd like to find the upstream bug tracker11:36
darkxstb.g.i11:38
darkxstb.g.o11:38
mgedminthanks11:38
darkxstbut might already be fixed in tracker 1.0...11:38
mgedminyup, it is fixed: https://github.com/GNOME/tracker/blob/master/src/libtracker-miner/tracker-decorator.c#L33111:39
mgedminin https://github.com/GNOME/tracker/commit/a1efdb7691542c4a871b3bd4d0aefe6aa34012f811:40
mgedmin7 days ago11:40
darkxstmgedmin, ok link upstream bug to lp report11:41
* darkxst has to run now11:41
mgedminthere was no upstream release with this fix11:41
darkxstmgedmin, and/or feel free to send through a debdiff with the patch added11:42
mgedmin;)11:42
ricotzdarkxst, ok, i would prefer one branch per cycle containing all packagings11:43
ricotzmgedmin, better get upstream to do a release ;)11:43
darkxstricotz, right, I guess if we have trusty, utopic etc branches, can just cherry-pick relevent bits as needed11:45
ricotzmgedmin, ah, this wasnt even cherry picked to 1.0 yet11:46
darkxstricotz, or maybe it really needs to be trusty-3.10, 3.12 etc ? gah anyway need to sleep11:46
ricotzdarkxst, right, better gnome-3.10-trusty, gnome-3.12-trusty and so on ;)11:46
ricotzdarkxst, ciao11:47
darkxstricotz, night11:47
ricotzmgedmin, pushed tracker including that patch11:55
mgedmin\o/11:55
majodanyone running with efi partition?13:13
majodi have seriously long booting times and i think its because of that13:13
majodi have ultrafast boot enabled in bios. while i had win8.1, i saw post screen, then windows logo for 2 seconds and after that could enter my password...but now, i see post screen, then theres blank grey screen with dark grey border for about 5 seconds and PC is doing nothing...then it disappears to black screen and finally i see ssd working for another 5 seconds...only then i see login screen13:16
majodi wonder whats going on during the first grey image13:16
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weierophinneyis it possible to do a dist-upgrade from vanilla ubuntu to ubuntu gnome?15:43
xnoxweierophinney: install ubuntu-gnome, remove ubuntu-desktop, keep the difference.15:55
xnoxweierophinney: some minor things might get stuck weird e.g. some gsettings et.al.15:55
eurythmiainstall ubuntu-gnome-desktop15:56
xnoxah, yeah weierophinney ^15:58
weierophinneyeurythmia: that's it? Really?15:59
weierophinneyI assume I also need to do the PPA purge, correct?15:59
eurythmiaweierophinney: that installs gnome, gdm, and all the standard stuff in the ubuntu gnome dist. You *can* remove ubuntu-desktop if you'd like, but it's not necessary.16:00
weierophinneycool -- looks like I can do that _now_, and then upgrade to 14.04 when done with that.16:00
eurythmiaweierophinney: xnox's warning about some minor weirdness hanging around still stands though.16:00
weierophinneyeurythmia: I figured. I've had minor wierdness since switching to gnome-shell a couple years ago anyways.16:01
eurythmiaweierophinney: no need to do PPA purge ... ubuntu and ubuntu gnome *are* the same distro with different user interfaces.16:01
weierophinneyI'm just hoping this will be _less_ wierdness. :)16:01
holsteinweierophinney: could be due to ppa use.. try the default ubuntu packages16:01
weierophinneyah, okay.16:01
weierophinneyrigt -- that's what I was getting at. I have the gnome3- ppa currently. I should purge that one?16:02
holsteinweierophinney: you should keep in mind, if you have issues with it, you get support from the ppa maintainers.. otherwise, i would just try both16:02
weierophinneyokay16:03
weierophinneyexcellent -- wasn't aware of the ubuntu-gnome-desktop metapackage. That will be nice to try out.16:03
weierophinneyThanks, all!16:03
holsteinif you are saying, i have always had issue with gnome, and always used the ppa, try the default repo packages.. at least you can get support from the larger ubuntu community16:04
weierophinneyholstein: agreed, thx16:05
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SonikkuAmericadarkxst: Good job cutting it down to 2 PPAs. Couldn't have done it better imho17:02
majodanyone can help me find out why booting my OS takes so long? :/17:47
x-NaWild guess, one of your usb devices17:52
x-NaI had that problem, powered down my HP 1018 LaserJet and booted normally17:54
x-NaThen I noticed that hplip was again installed, which causes problems17:55
majodmy only usb devices are keyboard and mouse...17:55
majodwhen i turn on my pc, after post screen it shows grey screen for about 5 seconds and do nothing...17:56
majodonly after that i see my ssd working17:56
x-NaOk, I did find a thread somewhere about the issue, do not know if there are bugs reported18:00
[Ch4m3l30n]majod: you might want to make a Boot Chart to see what's going on... http://www.bootchart.org/18:02
majod[Ch4m3l30n]: thanks, will try!18:29

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