[00:03] <keithzg> Although my issue may not be that. Hmm.
[00:07] <keithzg> Aha, I bet it's http://www.lornajane.net/posts/2008/Logrotate-Error-on-Ubuntu since the server in question recently ingested a dump from another one (so as to be used as the alternative backend for a sandbox wiki).
[01:07] <Guegs> Is there a way to completely remove the group from a directory? I want them completely gone, not just 700 permissions.
[01:09] <pmatulis> Guegs: what "group"?
[01:09] <Guegs> drwx------ 2 guegs I_WANT_NOTHING_HERE 2 Apr 28 19:03
[01:10] <Guegs> the group I want to remove from that dir is 'test'
[01:11] <Guegs> Ehh, what the hell, I'll just chmod 777 it.
[01:11] <Guegs> Err, 700. :-P
[01:26] <rbasak> Guegs: all files must have a group owner. But there is a "nobody" group you can use if you have nothing else suitable. And giving the group no permission makes sense.
[01:26] <Guegs> ohh, didn't know about the nobody group. Thanks.
[01:26] <rbasak> Guegs: sorry, it's the "nogroup" group. "nobody" is the equivalent user.
[02:22] <tonymke> Anyone know anything about configuring apache? Just wanted a specific subdomain to have a different documentroot directory than all other directories. e.g. dev.tony-lechner.com goes to /var/www/dev, while blah.tony-lechner.com or tony-lechner.com goes to /var/www/tony-lechner
[02:23] <tonymke> Set up two site conf files, can't seem to get it working. https://gist.github.com/tonymke/11389308
[02:25] <mwhudson> tonymke: do you have NameVirtualHost *:80 somewhere?
[02:44] <ruben23> hi guys.. i have a publci  Server where it runs a web access and telephony server...im worried for attack and exploits does VPN works for this...but how do i setup..? shoudl it be separate server VPN or just built on teh same server..? does it require more bandiwidth
[03:27] <tonymke> mwhudson: I do, in both. Sorry about the delay
[03:30] <tonymke> mwhudson: err <VirtualHost *:80>
[03:30] <mwhudson> tonymke: mine wasn't a typo :)
[03:30] <tonymke> mwhudson: oh hey, that was the right word to google. thanks :)
[04:31] <onorua> Hi guys, does some one run systemd on ubuntu server already in here?
[05:03] <blkperl> onorua: well its not default in 14.04 so I'm guessing nobody does
[05:49] <mvbemmel> Seen the large availablity on VNC options, which one is suggested for setting up a VNC between linux server and osx?
[05:56] <owh> mvbemmel: To achieve what? Personally I use ssh.
[05:57] <mvbemmel> owh: To have terminal acces from a mac
[05:57] <mvbemmel> owh: could you pls tell what your setup is?
[05:57] <owh> mvbemmel: Open up the terminal on the Mac, type ssh user@server, enter your password. Done
[05:58] <mvbemmel> owh: perhpas I was thinking to difficult if the solution is that easy. Thanks!
[05:58] <owh> mvbemmel: On the server you'll need to have installed openssh-server.
[05:59] <mvbemmel> owh: check, tnx
[06:48] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:00] <Guest67771> Hi I had a power outage last night. I restarted my Ubuntu server, but 2 core services I run (apache and a MOO server) aren't accessible. I've checked all I can think of - all was good prior to the outage. Suugestions to troubleshooot?
[07:01] <sarnold> Guest67771: anything in /var/log that looks related? maybe also run a debsums -c to see if anything is corrupted or missing
[07:02] <Guest67771> thanks <sarnold>, what does debsums do?
[07:02] <sarnold> Guest67771: it checks the hashes that most packages provide in their manifests
[07:03] <Guest67771> which log should I be looking in?
[07:04] <owh> Guest67771: If you start apache manually, do you get an error?
[07:04] <Guest67771> It made mention of the fully qualified domain name not being available - but started anyhow
[07:05] <sarnold> Guest67771: I'd check dmesg to see if there's hard drive errors or apparmor errors, apache error.log to see if there's anything interesting there, boot log in case something was written to the console..
[07:05] <Guest67771> localhost works
[07:05] <sarnold> I think that's just a warning
[07:07] <owh> Guest67771: Have your IP addresses stayed the same?
[07:07] <Guest67771> Static IP from my ISP. The server has the same internal IP - fixed using MAC address. Checked that first!
[07:09] <Guest67771> Boot log is mostly clean - 2 entries for apparmor (skipping profile)
[07:09] <owh> Here's the FQDN fix: http://aslamnajeebdeen.com/blog/how-to-fix-apache-could-not-reliably-determine-the-servers-fully-qualified-domain-name-using-127011-for-servername-error-on-ubuntu
[07:10] <jjohansen> Guest67771: the skipping profiles bit is normal when there are a profiles disabled. You can see which ones are disabled by looking at /etc/apparmor.d/disable
[07:12] <Guest67771> SO that's probably not it.
[07:12] <owh> Guest67771: Once you fix the FQDN, restart apache, then see if you can start the MOO.
[07:13] <Guest67771> can I use the IP, rather than the domain name in the httpd.conf
[07:13] <owh> Guest67771: Here is a more ubuntu specific link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:14] <owh> Guest67771: "localhost" is what it needs.
[07:15] <Guest67771> misinterpreted it
[07:16] <Guest67771> apache started ok...no warnings
[07:16] <owh> Can you now start the MOO?
[07:17] <Guest67771> the MOO starts, but my error is server at 124.254.81.40 7777 is unreachable
[07:18] <Guest67771> can't browse my deafult web page either - not using the IP address anyway - localhost still works
[07:19] <owh> What happens if you go to the web server via the ip address or the host name, rather than local host?
[07:20] <Guest67771> Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to 124.254.81.40
[07:21] <owh> Can you ping the IP?
[07:21] <Guest67771> yes...
[07:21] <owh> From outside?
[07:21] <Guest67771> but I am on the same network
[07:21] <Guest67771> don't have access to an outside PC
[07:22] <owh> I just realised I do ;-) I can ping it. Looks like no reply from the web server. Have you set-up a virtual host for this IP?
[07:23] <Guest67771> no....but I din't have one before. IT's been working OK
[07:23] <Guest67771> didn't
[07:23] <owh> Does localhost:7777 work for you?
[07:25] <owh> Guest67771: FYI I cannot tracepath to that IP.
[07:25] <Guest67771> no...can't connect
[07:27] <owh> I'd focus on getting the web server to respond. Likely the issue is the same for both. I'm wondering if you added some static routes or did some network wrangling to make it work last time and didn't save that, so the reboot killed it.
[07:28] <Guest67771> makes sense...checked my port forwarding..it's good
[07:28] <Guest67771> I recall putting the IP into  a config file..can't recall which one
[07:31] <Guest67771> canyouseeme.org is showing ports 80, 7777 blocked
[07:33] <unresolved> hi
[07:33] <unresolved> i need some help
[07:38] <owh> unresolved: Don't we all?
[07:38] <unresolved> lol
[08:50] <Guest67771> Hi I think I have a DNS issue with my server. The internet won't work from it, and I can't see web pages from the web server across my LAN. I have a static IP. Prior to a power outtage last night, all was good. But something must have been dumped or lost in the reboot. Any advice would be welcome. I've tried quite a few troubleshooting tacks, but this is where I'm at now.
[09:53] <lorenx> hi all. i'm having some issues connecting to a 14.04 nfs server (a previuos version worked fine) from an ubuntu client
[09:53] <lorenx> all the usual command seems fine. on the server side, "rpcbind -p" and "showmount -e" seem correct
[09:53] <lorenx> and on the client side, "rpcinfo -p 10.0.0.1" and "rpcinfo -u 10.0.0.1 nfs" seem fine too
[09:53] <lorenx> but "sudo mount" just hangs
[09:53] <lorenx> any hint please? thanks
[10:04] <rbasak> lorenx: try tcpdump at both ends, to make sure that all packets are getting through? And perhaps check any firewalls on the machines themselves?
[10:04] <Guest67771> Hi I believe I may have a DNS issue in 12.04LTS. I had a power outage last night, and now I'm plagued with problems I need to to resolve. The server cant access the internet, and the web server isn't available. Anyone able to provide some advice please?
[10:05] <lorenx> rbasak: the 2 machine see each other, no specific firewall rules are set
[10:05] <lorenx> i can ping, can ssh to the server...
[10:07] <lorenx> rbasak: one thing i noticed is probably a dns issue, nut i'm not sure it is the problem: http://privatepaste.com/4bb3101abc
[10:07] <lorenx> (commands run form the client side)
[10:11] <caribou> jamespage: remember yesterday's query about nova-cloud-controller's passing of authorized_keys/known_hosts ?
[10:51] <lorenx> any hint please?
[11:17] <zetheroo1> Hi all ... I just did 'apt-get update' on one of our 14.04 servers and it ended with this .. is it anything to stress about? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7358754/
[11:19] <caribou> zetheroo1: you may fix this by running sudo locale-gen de_CH.UTF-8
[11:20] <zetheroo1> caribou: thank you very much ... what was the problem?
[11:21] <caribou> zetheroo1: the localization files were not created on your system and since you are using swiss german localization (at least I think so) the perl command issued a warning
[11:21] <caribou> I get that all the time as I'm localized in french
[11:22] <caribou> I even noticed some installation failure because of the localization
[11:36] <zetheroo1> ok
[11:37] <zetheroo1> yes, I am in Switzerland
[11:37] <zetheroo1> is it normal that these files are not automatically created!? Don't they usually get created during the OS install?
[11:42] <Guest67771> Hi I think I have a DNS issue with my 12.04 LTS server. It didn't show until I had a power outgae yesterday. Now I plagued with problems. Anyone able to assist with advice please?
[11:53] <lorenx> hi all. i'm having some issues connecting to a 14.04 nfs server (a previuos version worked fine) from an ubuntu client
[11:53] <lorenx> all the usual command seems fine. on the server side, "rpcbind -p" and "showmount -e" seem correct
[11:53] <lorenx> and on the client side, "rpcinfo -p 10.0.0.1" and "rpcinfo -u 10.0.0.1 nfs" seem fine too
[11:53] <lorenx> but "sudo mount" just hangs
[11:53] <lorenx> any hint please?
[11:56] <hiteshtr> which is best open source mail server
[12:37] <pmatulis> hiteshtr: investigate postfix
[13:00] <lorenx> any hint please? thanks a lot
[13:12] <rbasak> lorenx: did you try tcpdump at both ends?
[13:14] <lorenx> rbasak: not actually but i'm pretty sure there's nothing blocking each other... what should block the communication other than a firewall?
[13:16] <lorenx> rbasak: do you think this is not enough? http://privatepaste.com/2475e6c308
[13:18] <lorenx> rbasak: anyway, what should i exactly test with tcpdump? a specific port?
[13:30] <rbasak> lorenx: make sure that all traffic sent from one end is received at the other end, and vice versa.
[13:30] <rbasak> lorenx: usually if there's a problem somewhere it will fail, not hang. But network problems can result in hangs.
[13:30] <rbasak> lorenx: given that you don't know how else to fix the issue, that's at least one side of things you can rule out.
[13:31] <lorenx> rbasak: ok but the 2 computer is linked together (one is the network gateway) and *most* of the traffic is received correctly. i only have issues with nfs
[13:32] <lorenx> maybe i should just monitor the moment when the mount hangs
[13:32] <rbasak> lorenx: I've seen many network problems where *some* packets get through, but some property of specific packets cause some specific packets to fail.
[13:32] <rbasak> eg. MTU issues, or some special flag set by a specific problem, etc.
[13:32] <rbasak> I'm just saying that you should rule it out.
[13:33] <lorenx> i'm not a tcpdump expert, what's the best tcpdump command i should run on the server while trying to mount from the client?
[13:33] <lorenx> anyway, keep in mind that all works fine before i installed 14.04
[13:34] <lorenx> i haven't changed my firewall rules or something like tat
[13:34] <lorenx> if i reboot my old ubuntu server version, nfs works fine (the firewall rules are exactly the same)
[13:34] <rbasak> "tcpdump -w dump.pcap -ni eth0 not port 22" or something like that. If you're not an expert, I recommend wireshark to examine the dump after.
[13:35] <lorenx> i've also thought about a nfs-kernel-server 1.2.8-6ubuntu1 bug :P
[13:40] <lorenx> rbasak: i see many packages and i'm not able to detect the exact nfs packages but when i ctrl-c the tcpdumo command it says "0 packets dropped by kernel"
[13:40] <lorenx> rbasak: and now my mount command finally times out! "mount.nfs4: mounting 10.0.0.1:/lan failed, reason given by server: No such file or directory"
[13:40] <rbasak> lorenx: OK, now examine the dump.pcap file using wireshark, as captured at both ends. wireshark highlights retransmissions and the like.
[13:41] <lorenx> but i'm sure it exists
[13:41] <rbasak> OK, forgot the capture now then.
[13:41] <rbasak> forget
[13:42] <lorenx> ok, good... but i have no idea on how to debug further now
[13:44] <lorenx> isn't this weird?? http://privatepaste.com/c5ea8ad3cf
[13:48] <lorenx> rbasak: ^
[14:16] <mirelle> hello ubuntu-server community. im new to linux. but still not just a user.
[14:18] <Ahti333> is there a good way to upgrade 12.04 to 14.04 right now (before 14.04.1 is out)? or am i better off reinstalling anyway?
[14:19] <Ahti333> (uptime is not important)
[14:22] <mardraum> Ahti333: do-release-upgrade
[14:23] <Pici> that won't work until 14.04.1 is out.
[14:23] <mardraum> unless you change a single line in a single file, right?
[14:23] <Ahti333> yup. It does show 14.04 when i use --devel-release, but I'm not sure wether that's the real release or some devel version
[14:24] <Pici> Its the real release, but I wouldn't expect for the upgrade from LTS to LTS to be completely tested.
[14:27] <mardraum> yes well, you still need to test things yourself if you want to ensure no issues
[14:28] <mardraum> even after the .1 that remains true
[14:28] <MannerMan> do-release-upgrade -d will upgrade ubuntu 12.04.4 to 14.04
[14:28] <MannerMan> but indeed, it's recommended to wait for 14.04.1
[14:32] <Ahti333> well i can always revert to a backup when things go south
[14:33] <Baluse> hello
[14:33] <Baluse> Is it easy to create a user that would have access to /var/www/dudesite/  only and his personal whatever
[14:33] <Baluse> i want to host my friend's site but dont want to give root access
[14:37] <Ahti333> Baluse depending on your servers setup, it could be anything from very easy to mildly complicated :P
[14:37] <Ahti333> create a new user for your friend, create /var/www/dudesite/ and change its ownership to the new user
[14:37] <Ahti333> that's the basics
[14:38] <mirelle> i have done biug shitty :D
[14:38] <Baluse> so when accessing via ssh he could see and other folders right?
[14:39] <Ahti333> Baluse that depends on how the permissions on thos other folders are set
[14:39] <mirelle> have running "ubuntu 12.04" havce first installed node.js with "sudo apt-get install node.js". after that i did the misstake, also installed npm with "sudo apt-get install npm"
[14:39] <patdk-wk> mostly, yes, unless you chroot him
[14:40] <mirelle> now i get served issues when i want to update in the node.js the "npm"
[14:41] <Ahti333> additionaly, if your friend might use php or any other non-static content for his website, he will be able to see any content the webserver is able to see, which you can prevent by using (for apache) mod_suexec and/or mod_suphp
[14:41] <zetheroo1> I am trying to apply the fix on post #34 from this bug (which I am experiencing) : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1274320
[14:41] <zetheroo1> problem is that it's unclear to me where this section ends ....
[14:42] <mirelle> how do i uninstall all, to make it new?
[14:42] <funcoland1> good morning! I'm trying to install apt packages in an offline installation and I'm using a command to grab the package with its dependencies but it's not downloading the deps for a package that is already installed on the system. does anyone know a command that will ignore what is installed on the system and still grab everything?
[14:43] <zetheroo1> this is what my 00_header file looks like now (without edits): http://paste.ubuntu.com/7359770/
[14:43] <zetheroo1> I tried editing it and running grub-update but got the following error: /etc/grub.d/00_header: 400: /etc/grub.d/00_header: Syntax error: end of file unexpected (expecting "fi")
[14:48] <zetheroo1> odd thing is that I tried the fix from post #28 and grub-update works without a hitch after it ...
[15:10] <smoser> smb, so https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/drbd8/+bug/1185756
[15:10] <smb> yeeees
[15:10] <smoser> just reading that, it seems like you fixed, that got into -updates.
[15:10] <smb> smoser, I was about to whine in the server-team meeting
[15:10] <smoser> and then a regerssion?
[15:11] <smoser> and you have a fix for the regression in the debdiff there.
[15:11] <smoser> right?
[15:12] <smb> smoser, well, we did a backport from the saucy drbd package because the newer kernel module has so many changes it probably never would work with the older user-space. And the user-space seemed to support running the compat mode
[15:12] <smoser> yeah, and that got into precise-updates
[15:12] <smoser> right?
[15:12] <smb> Just that it did only work as long as one used drbd directly, but not from clusters. Now we break current clusters
[15:12] <smb> Yep its in updates
[15:12] <smb> and a regression
[15:13] <mintux> which one of them is best for server debian or ubuntu server ? i ubunu server as light as debian ?
[15:13] <mintux> **is
[15:13] <smb> smoser, I have fixes that make at least corosync cluster work ok. Just there is a recent report of heartbeat alone might still have problems
[15:14] <smb> smoser, But I got some debug output as a PM and that looks a bit odd
[15:15] <smb> smoser, As it does execute things I neither find in the drbd resource agent shipped with drbd nor in the one shipped with resource-agents
[15:26] <smoser> smb, what is your debdiff against ?
[15:27] <smb> smoser, against the updates version in precise
[15:28] <smb> smoser, argh... maybe not
[15:28] <smb> smoser, Oh yes ... sory I had a different package in my vi
[15:29] <smoser> smb, yeah.
[15:29] <smoser> ok.
[15:29] <smoser> so the other hting i was going to say, smb...
[15:29] <smb> smoser, I actually have the source deb on chinstrap
[15:29] <smoser> is that afaik,
[15:29] <smoser>  if (( $DRBDADM_VERSION_CODE >= 0x080400 )); then
[15:29] <smoser> is busted
[15:30] <smb> smoser, why ?
[15:30] <smoser> oh. never mind.
[15:30] <smb> smoser, that code was actually in before, I just added the else case imo
[15:32] <smoser> smb link to source ?
[15:32] <smoser> or re-attach debdei
[15:32] <smb> smoser, chinstrap:~smb/4review
[15:32] <smb> smoser, I admit diffs of patches suck
[15:38] <smb> smoser, ok. must admit something seems not working right in case of running the init script with the new kernel
[15:39] <smoser> smb, ok. so i guess you sort it out and then ping me
[15:40] <smoser> i'm not sure what the sru team thinks, bu i think officially you need a new bug.
[15:40] <smb> smoser, yeah. should not be long
[15:40] <smoser> maybe not. i dont know.
[15:58] <lorenx> nfs issue, isn't this weird?? http://privatepaste.com/c5ea8ad3cf
[15:59] <lorenx> this actually: http://privatepaste.com/0a13a2a873
[15:59] <smb> smoser, Actually it turns out that the problem I saw was only because that machine still ran a debug version of rc4 which emitted a version check number all the times. So nothing has to change
[16:00] <lorenx> is there some issue with 14.04 concerning nfs?
[16:01] <smoser> smb, so you think what is there is happy ?
[16:01] <smoser> or you think you want/need a fix for the heartbeat issue you mentioned above
[16:02] <smb> smoser, Happier than anything before. The heartbeat thing might be an issue but it looks a bit odd out and at least we would unbreak all the others
[16:03] <smb> Well apart from going back to 8.3.x but I think that would not be that simple either
[16:03] <smoser> ok. smb thenn i'll take another look.
[16:03] <smoser> i'm not sure what to do about hte bug though
[16:03] <smoser> since it is fix-released
[16:03] <smoser> sorry to be process.
[16:03] <smb> lorenx, not that I would know of. does syslog or dmesg on the server side give a hint
[16:04] <lorenx> smb: hi and thanks for your reply... it seems that this is helping: http://goo.gl/iTvyN
[16:04] <smb> smoser, Yeah, its unfortunate people did not report a new one... We may set it back to in progress?
[16:05] <smoser> i dont really know, smb.
[16:05] <smoser> lets ask in -devel
[16:05] <smb> smoser, ok
[16:06] <smb> lorenx, Ok yeah, nfs4 syntax is a bit special
[16:07] <lorenx> smb, ok but wait... why it has been working fine with previous ubuntu version? it doesn't seem to me that nfsv4 is introduced with 14.04 right?
[16:09] <smb> lorenx, No, it should have failed the same way. Not sure why it did work then
[16:10] <smb> Maybe compat code that fell back to nfs3...
[16:11] <lorenx> smb: in fact there is still something weird
[16:12] <lorenx> what has been changed recently? i'm running the exact configuration i had with 12.04 but i'm having issues with my new 14.04 server
[16:16] <lorenx> i also need crossmnt in my /etc/exports
[16:59] <rbasak> Daviey: hey. Do you remember why we switched the ubuntu-server blog to the current location? Not everything is moved over, so it appears we're still using both :-/
[16:59] <TheRealBacon> I remember when and vaguely why, but I think that's a question you should post upstream in the ops Chan perhaps
[17:03] <Daviey> rbasak: the old one was wordpress.com hosted (as a subdomain) and we acquired a vanity domain. it was kinda embarrassing that we were not chewing our own produce.
[17:03] <rbasak> Ah. That makes sense - thansk.
[17:03] <Daviey> rbasak, i did think it was all moved over.. what have you seen that is missing?
[17:04] <rbasak> Daviey: I'm told that we're not syndicating server team member blogs like we used to.
[17:04] <gaughen> Daviey, well it's not so much missing as hallyn posted his minutes there
[17:04] <rbasak> Also I think someone (hallyn?) was unaware and posting to the old one
[17:04] <gaughen> yes, rbasak it was hallyn
[17:04] <gaughen> and I wanted to confirm to keep using hallyn's name in vain
[17:05] <Daviey> ah
[17:05] <gaughen> thanks rbasak, Daviey was just trying to figure out why there were two and then why we moved away from the wordpress.com site as we can make changes ourselves
[17:05] <Daviey> well i guess the old one should be taken offline?
[17:05] <hallyn> smoser: fwiw i've got a patch that at least is passing all of tar's previous tests,  re-building to test a bit on my own then i'll ost on the bug
[17:06] <gaughen> Daviey, do you know if all the data from the old one moved to the new one?
[17:06] <gaughen> I could do a test to verify
[17:06] <Daviey> does the post-minutes-o-matic script not make sense anymore?
[17:06] <gaughen> at a minimum I think it should prevent people, like hallyn, from posting to it ;-)
[17:06] <hallyn> gaughen: hey i know what we need, we need 2 more places to post the meeting notes
[17:06] <smoser> hallyn, since you're there, could you look at what happens if i try to use '--xattrs' on a filesystem that doesn't suppor them ?
[17:06] <hallyn> idle hands are the devil's tools
[17:06] <gaughen> hallyn, YES!
[17:06] <smoser> that makes it nasty
[17:07] <Daviey> gaughen, it was imported.. i assumed everything... i noticed tge odd utf8 conversion issue tho
[17:07] <Daviey> the*
[17:08] <hallyn> smoser: i'm not actually 'there' right now
[17:08] <rbasak> Daviey: the script was always a little broken for me. And I end up doing it by hand all the time.
[17:09] <hallyn> but should be trivial to test later with a loopdev
[17:09] <rbasak> afk
[17:09] <Daviey> gaughen: ah. stufff that was 'reblogged' was empty
[17:09] <gaughen> that's okay
[17:10] <Daviey> ie, imported from other peoples blogs
[17:11] <Daviey> iirc RT56145
[17:15] <hallyn> ok i'll test that right after lunch
[17:18] <smoser> hallyn, curious, what fs will you use ?
[17:18] <smoser> i thought htat ext2 did not support xattr, but that was incorrect.
[17:18] <smoser> i wonder about aufs.
[17:20] <stgraber> smoser: aufs works but you need to pass some extra mount parameter for it
[17:20] <smoser> does lxc pass said param ?
[17:21] <hallyn> well you could use nfs
[17:23] <stgraber> hallyn: hmm, I thought the docker folks said aufs could do xattr? Google doesn't seem to agree with that though :)
[17:23] <hallyn> what does 'touch ab; setcap cap_mac_admin=ep ab' say?
[17:24] <Daviey> smoser, is it only ping currently using extended attribs?
[17:24] <smoser> 3 total files i think.
[17:24] <smoser> i think.
[17:24] <hallyn> you know, tar in trusty doesn't seem to be working iwth xattrs either
[17:26] <Daviey> smoser, rather than changing every flavour to +S in sru.. (which is pretty nasty).. what about a cloud-init initial boot fixup.. xattr || chnod +S ?
[17:27] <hallyn> yea, or just have the ubuntu-cloud template do it
[17:27] <hallyn> or, as stgraber has suggested, back out the tar change...
[17:27] <Daviey> hallyn, well that doean't fix non-lxc usage?
[17:28] <hallyn> what non-lxc usage?
[17:28] <mirelle> somebody want to help, integrating NOMP mining pool (based on nodejs) on dedicated root server? Ubuntu 12.04
[17:28] <Daviey> Clint raised a bug he was aeeing of using the tar image directly?
[17:28] <Daviey> and smoser confirmed xurtin?
[17:28] <hallyn> xurtin?
[17:28] <Daviey> curtin*
[17:29] <Daviey> (mobile device keyboard)
[17:29] <hallyn> hm, kyet another installer? :)
[17:29] <hallyn> yeah see this is why back when we discussed this in lucid, we didn't (yet) proceed with xattrs :)  but i guess we have to break some eggs at some point
[17:30] <Daviey> is mtr still +S?
[17:31] <smoser> $ ls -l `which mtr`
[17:31] <smoser> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 75256 Oct 21  2013 /usr/bin/mtr
[17:31] <smoser> Daviey, ^ yes.
[17:32] <smoser> i dont like cluod-init fixing things.
[17:32] <Daviey> smoser, thanks
[17:32] <smoser> cloud-init is not an installer.
[17:32] <smoser> i'd rather have the packaging go back to setuid
[17:33] <Daviey> smoser, isn't this a backwards fix for 12.04? trusty is unaffected?
[17:33] <smoser> fwiw, overlayfs seems to be fine with xattr.
[17:33] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7360817/
[17:51] <hallyn> stgraber: smoser: I'm not getting it.  "touch ab;  setcap cap_mac_admin=ep ab; tar --xattrs -cf ab.tar ab; rm ab; tar --xattrs -xf ab.tar; getcap ab' shows tar is NOT doing xattrs...
[17:52] <hallyn> in uptodate trusty
[17:53] <hallyn> (done as root)
[17:53] <ogra_> trusty ... pfft ... old crap
[17:53] <hallyn> true, true
[17:55] <smoser> hallyn, you fell into same trap as me.
[17:55] <smoser> see the diff between first and second of my attachments ther.e
[17:56] <smoser> you not only have to tell it '--xattrs'
[17:56] <smoser> you have to tell it
[17:56] <smoser>  '--xattrs-include=*'
[17:56] <smoser> I want you to use xattrs, and I want you to *actually collect* xattrs
[17:58] <hallyn> that's idiotic.  i saw the option in the manpage, but somehow couldnt make that leap
[17:59] <smoser> yeah. i did the same as you.
[18:01] <hallyn> eh, so my patch still isnt' working
[19:39] <TechIsCool> can anyone help me with an ip address issue? I have statically assigned an ip address with sudo ifconfig eth1 10.119.5.31 netmask 255.255.0.0 and configured a default route but it does not work
[19:41] <sarnold> TechIsCool: can you ping other hosts in the 10.119/16 range?
[19:42] <TechIsCool> yes
[19:42] <sarnold> TechIsCool: cool. can you ping the router providing the default route?
[19:50] <alaing> just checking what permissions do you guys have on your /var/www?
[19:50] <alaing> and what user:group?
[19:51] <alaing> drwxr-xr-x+ 20 root      root       4096 Apr 18 20:50 www
[20:37] <Guest67771> I had a power outage yesterday, and my previous setup with 12.04 LTS was working smoothly.
[20:37] <Guest67771> Now, my webserver isn't accessible to the outside world, and nor is my MOO server.
[20:37] <Guest67771> I have a static IP,and use port forwarding on my router to direct traffic to my server. Here's my testing: can't ping google from server can't access web from server can ping server (192.168.xx.xx) from my other work station can ping my IP (124.254.xx.xx) from my other work station
[20:37] <Guest67771> I'm using UFW - ports 23, 7777 and 80 are open. Firewall is active. Port forwarding is working to the correct IP address.
[20:37] <Guest67771> I tested to see if the ports were visible - canyouseeme.org shows 80 and 7777 closed.
[20:37] <Guest67771> I'm a noob, so I may have left something off the fresh install I did a few weeks ago. But it had all been working well. The install worked out of the box - no special fixes.
[20:37] <Guest67771> I've trawled the web and this forum to find a fix. I commented out #dns=dnsmasq in networkmanager.conf - to no avail.
[20:37] <Guest67771> I can recall in a previous install, having to add info to a config file regarding my IP address - at tis stage I'm not worried about domain names. The best I've come up with is to add dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 to /etc/network/interface*.
[20:37] <Guest67771> I really need to have the MOO up and running (it is running, but not accessible). You could say I'm desperate. Look forward to any advice you may be able to provide.
[21:03] <championofcyrodi> Anyone have success with new Intel NUC on 12.04.4? PXE boot works with LTSP server, but nbd mount fails because ipconfig does not have any network interfaces found.  Seems like the Intel NUC's Ethernet driver is not included with the initrd used by the client(s).
[21:04] <ogra_> kirkland, ^^^ didnt you play with NUCs before ?
[21:27] <rostam> HI can I use preseed to automate installation of mini ubuntu iso? thx
[21:38] <kirkland> ogra_: yo
[21:38] <kirkland> ogra_: yep, plenty ;-)
[21:38] <kirkland> looks like that user is gone, though
[21:38] <ogra_> kirkland, well, they guy with the issue is gone now ... he was trying to netboot a NUC
[21:38] <kirkland> ogra_: ah
[21:38] <kirkland> ogra_: well, we do a TON of that with MAAS :-)
[21:39] <kirkland> ogra_: works great ;-)
[21:39] <ogra_> PXE seemsed to work fine but it fell over with a missing NIC driver in initrd
[21:40] <kirkland> ogra_: that's odd;  it's just an e1000
[21:40] <kirkland> ogra_: what is funny is how the kernel names the device
[21:40] <kirkland> ogra_: sometimes its eth0, sometimes its em1 (device tree funkiness?)
[21:41] <sarnold> biosdevname package does that renaming
[21:41] <ogra_> yeah
[21:41] <ogra_> there was a long discussion with some dell people long ago on ubuntu-devel ... iirc before 12.04
[21:42] <hallyn> so biosdevnae renames it to em1, or to eth0?
[21:45] <sarnold> hallyn: with the caveat that I've not personally seen one of these NUCs yet, I believe the biosdevname renames it to em1
[21:55] <zerick> I have a spawn-fcgi not working, everytime I run it all processes apparently created are not present. Help plz
[21:58] <hallyn> oh hey, found a missing chunk of patch (lying here on the floor) maybe tar --xattrs will work now
[22:04] <hallyn> yay, it does