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nuvolario/ aloha05:38
Kiloshi jabberwocky93  Spekko  inetpro  and other lurkers06:04
Spekkomore Kilos06:13
jabberwocky93hi Kilos, morning all!06:17
nuvolarilo oom Kilos 06:28
Kiloslo nuvolari  gaanit?06:28
Kilosjy is so skaars ons begin dink om die mafia na jou te stuur06:29
Kilosjy baie stout/stoud06:32
Kilosdaai ding06:32
Kiloshaha hi bushtech  rev them some more06:34
inetprohi everyone06:37
inetproand good morning Kilos06:37
Kiloshi inetpro  06:37
Kiloshi Private_User  06:46
Kilosoops sorry inetpro  didnt see you tweeted the meet already06:46
Kilosmorning ThatGraemeGuy  06:49
ThatGraemeGuymornings :-)06:54
Kiloshi Golynx  07:27
charl_good morning07:27
charl_Maaz: coffee on07:27
* Maaz puts the kettle on07:27
Kiloshi charl_  07:27
Golynxhi Kilos07:28
Golynxhi charl_07:28
inetproKilos: np07:28
charl_hi Kilos 07:30
charl_hi Golynx 07:30
charl_hi inetpro 07:30
charl_how's it going07:30
MaazCoffee's ready for charl_!07:31
charl_Maaz: thanks07:31
Maazcharl_: No problem07:31
Kiloshi Vince-0  07:41
Kilosmeeting tonight hey!07:41
Kiloswhats happened to smileyborg07:42
Kiloshi superfly  07:45
Vince-0Haai07:46
Kilosthat quassel thing cheats, 07:46
Vince-0yaar07:59
Vince-0I haven't seen Smiles for a while08:00
Golynx_o/ Vince-008:04
Vince-0haai08:04
Golynxwhats a quassel08:04
Kilosquassel is an irc client08:18
Kilosone you can bounce with08:19
Golynxoh ping pong08:20
ThatGraemeGuyyou can bounce with any client o_O08:22
Golynxjust kidding :D08:22
Golynxhi ThatGraemeGuy08:22
ThatGraemeGuy'lo :)08:23
Kilosoh08:25
charl_zbnc is also populair09:21
Kiloshi theblazehen  09:44
theblazehenhi Kilos 09:45
kbmonkeyhi Kilos yes I replied09:47
kbmonkeyI was away remember lol09:47
Kiloshi kbmonkey  09:47
Kilosto what?09:47
kbmonkeyI dunno to what I just got away log the pro asking you Kilos if I replied ;009:48
Kilosas long as you are here tonight and drag nuvo with you all good09:48
Kilosoh ya i told him you did09:48
kbmonkeyexcellent!09:48
kbmonkeyyou the man Kilos 09:49
Kilosai!09:49
Kilosdid i tell you that 14.04 sees the d-link modem09:50
* Kilos happy09:50
kbmonkeyoh good show09:53
kbmonkeywhere did you get 14.04 from?09:53
kbmonkeyI will be so blerrie tired after work today. half way there09:54
Kilosgot it 2 weeks early with the daily build09:55
Kilosthen got 14.04 with the release09:55
Kilosboth very lekker09:55
Kiloskde i mean the secong one09:55
Kilosai! /secong/second09:56
Kiloshi Rynomster  meeting tonight hey10:01
magespawngood day10:06
Kiloshi magespawn  10:06
magespawnon the right day for the meeting just a couple of hours early10:06
Kilosrofl10:09
charl_hi magespawn 10:28
charl_you been scarce10:28
charl_how's it going with the wifi and the asterisk10:28
charl_here is one for people with slow internet http://levamedlagg.se/10:30
charl_how extremely disturbing lag is10:30
magespawnhi charl_ 10:31
magespawnwifi is good and i am getting a handle on asterisk10:32
charl_very nice10:32
Kiloswe need one of those nudge tools in other im goodies to remind rynmster he has irc as well10:56
Kiloswhat do you call those popups that show youve moved to another workspace on kde11:02
Kilosi want to disable them11:02
charl_hmmm just tried pass for the first time but am not impressed11:06
charl_a good concept but it isn't nearly a replacement for keepass211:06
Vince-0magespawn, Asterisk help <here if you need it11:32
magespawnVince-0, you know asterisk?11:38
Vince-0I do, in production since 200811:43
Vince-0wat maak jy daar? I do vicidial lately - yawn11:49
Vince-0I actually prefer Freeswitch from a dev point of view11:50
magespawni have just taken over a couple of running systems, one at the head office and another two at two of the hotels12:03
Vince-0freepbx? I'd prefer that for pbxy things12:04
Kilosneed to move modem to other pc. wbb be good12:09
KilosMaaz  watch them12:09
MaazOK Kilos I'll keep an eye on them for you12:09
magespawnvanilla asterisk12:12
Vince-0magespawn, ew, might be worth while looking at freepbx - it covers all pbx use cases I've seen.12:23
Vince-0can go under the hood to get at vanilla asterisk12:23
magespawni was having a look at the various options, this is just what i inherited12:30
magespawnbesides  i figure that if i can learn asterisk on it own the other should be straight froward12:32
magespawni might have to set up some sort of test machine to see which works best here12:33
Vince-0sure, I'm guessing there's a bunch of 3rd party apps that work with the existing systems - I think you mentioned bookings etc12:39
Vince-0just get the FreePBX ISO , its the bizniz12:39
Vince-0magespawn, disconnected?12:40
magespawn_later all. got to go out on the road, thanks for the head up Vince-0 13:45
Vince-0!14:14
Kilosim back14:16
inetprokbmonkey: just check that agenda before our meeting14:27
inetproI'm not sure those events are all valid14:27
inetprolike that UDS, think it was in March and the next one can't be in May already14:28
inetproeveryone else who still knows about any other events please let us know so we update the agenda already 14:32
inetproor any other topics 14:32
inetprowb Xethron14:34
inetprooh and please tell me if you know the syntax to create clickable links in the loco team portal14:37
inetprowish they would fall back to a wiki site for that14:37
Xethronhaha14:44
XethronHeya guys14:44
XethronIs ther a place you can buy Ubuntu Laptops in SA?14:44
Kiloshi Xethron  14:45
Kiloswassup Xethron  did you blow yours?14:46
XethronI can't spend all day every day debugging a problem that can't be found14:47
XethronI need a laptop that works with Linux14:47
XethronThats been built for Linux and that I can take back if it doesn't work with Linux14:47
Kilosoh my14:48
Kilosread that14:48
Kiloshttp://fullcirclemagazine.org/issue-84/14:48
Kilosthere is a section on putting ubuntu onto a mac14:49
Xethronlol14:51
XethronI don't have a mac :P14:51
XethronAnd if I did, I'd prob run OSX on it14:51
Xethron:P14:51
Kilosoh what probs are you having then14:52
Kilosi get mixed up with who has what14:52
Kilosthere was lots in the lists about local pcs with linux preinstalled about a year ago but i dont remember what the outcome was14:53
Kilosi think there was a place or 2 that would do it14:53
Kilosstart with what lappy you have and then give the probs14:54
theblazehenKilos: I'd rather start with no OS on the machine, than linux, really15:04
Kilosyeah theblazehen  but where do you buy such a lappy15:04
theblazehenKilos: not sure, shouldnt be TOO hard to find though15:05
theblazehenheh, DOS doesn't use much RAM.. 147 KB used of 16 GB :D15:05
Kilossee if you can find one15:05
theblazehenmecerpc.co.za15:06
KilosXethron  check out mecerpc.co.za15:07
Xethrontx15:08
Xethrontheblazehen: its just that my current laptop keeps crashing15:09
Xethronso need something that supports Ubuntu15:09
nuvolario/ see you all later15:10
nuvolarifor the meeting15:10
Kilosok nuvolari  15:11
inetprodidn't someone say that system76 would be available locally at some point?15:13
inetprohttps://www.system76.com/home/shippinginformation/15:15
Kilosnice find inetpro  15:51
Kilosho do their prices compare15:52
Kiloshow also15:52
Kiloshi sf55  welcome to ubuntu-za16:36
Kilosoh my16:37
JabberwockyA19hi Kilos16:38
Kiloshi JabberwockyA19  16:38
Kilosonly 2 hours to wait for the meeting to start16:38
JabberwockyA19not studying tonight, wil be here the meeting :)16:40
Kiloscool16:40
theblazehenWhen is meeting starting? 16:41
theblazehenKilos: ^16:41
* JabberwockyA19 tries to compile cgminer in the meanwhile16:41
Kilos20.3016:41
theblazehenKilos: kk, ty16:41
Kilosnp16:42
theblazehenJabberwockyA19: litecoin?16:42
theblazehenJabberwockyA19: or other scrypt?16:42
theblazehenOn linux?16:42
theblazehenJabberwockyA19: If you need help I have 9 GPU's all mining on linux, feel free to /msg me16:43
JabberwockyA19theblazehen: thanks, I've recently joined the waffle pool. I can't use cgminer > 3.7.x and I need to download the dev dependencies. The problem I have is I've capped my internet twice this month already.16:48
theblazehenJabberwockyA19: I'd recommend sgminer, allows more optimisation, and with zabbix OCL kernel16:49
theblazehenAlso look at ipominer.com and nicehash.com, as well as poolpicker.eu16:49
JabberwockyA19still very new to mining in general, I managed to get ~750Mh/s in windows on my 280x16:50
theblazehenJabberwockyA19: yeah, 760 here16:50
theblazehenand KH/s *16:50
JabberwockyA19heh yeah KH*16:50
theblazehenJabberwockyA19: unless you forgot to use --scrypt?16:50
theblazehenok16:50
theblazehenJabberwockyA19: How many cards?16:51
JabberwockyA19thanks, i'll check those out for sure!16:52
JabberwockyA19theblazehen: uhm 1, hehe17:04
Golynxhi theblazehen, JabberwockyA1917:04
theblazehenJabberwockyA19: heh, ok. 17:04
JabberwockyA19my brother is running x2 270's getting 900-1000KH/s17:04
theblazehenhey Golynx 17:04
theblazehenJabberwockyA19: Can you get him to share his config? Thanks17:05
JabberwockyA19sure, I think I've got it here somewhere...17:06
JabberwockyA19theblazehen: not very organised, but here it is http://codeshare.io/b95DF17:12
JabberwockyA19using '-' infront of variables that still needs more tuning17:13
theblazehenJabberwockyA19: ty17:14
JabberwockyA19np17:15
spekko_AWE!!17:35
Kiloshi spekko_  17:35
spekko_Gelagtes17:35
spekko_hello Kilos17:35
theblazehenhi spekko_ 17:36
* JabberwockyA19 tricked spekko_ into joining!17:36
spekko_nickserve se wat !?17:36
Kiloshey you clever peeps wont a continuous ping stop  disconnections17:36
JabberwockyA19Kilos: it helps for me17:37
Kilosya spekko_  meeting times everyone must attend or your pc will crash17:37
spekko_or, alternatively we could continue to spam the channel17:37
spekko_ROFL!17:37
KilosJabberwockyA19  will you help bush set it up there by him17:38
=== spekko_ is now known as Spekko
Golynxhi Spekko17:38
Kilosspekko_  we have contacts in the local mafia to sort spammers out17:38
kbmonkeyinetpro, roger that17:38
Kilosbushtech  you here now17:39
Kilos??17:39
Spekkohi Golynx17:39
bushtechHope so Having Vodacom problems again17:39
theblazehenKilos: we do?17:39
theblazehenYay!17:40
Kilosbushtech  try a continuous ping17:40
KilosJabberwockyA19  tell him how17:40
Kilosplease17:40
bushtechyes please17:40
Kilosoh my there he goes17:41
bushtechheh17:42
Kiloskbmonkey  evening, help man17:42
kbmonkeyhi Kilos 17:42
SpekkoLuik my Jabberwocky se cap is uit17:42
kbmonkeynet very slow. trying to log in to loco17:42
Kiloskbmonkey  how you set a continuous ping17:42
Golynxhi kbmonkey sir17:43
Spekkocontinues ping on irc ?17:43
KilosGolynx  dvd will leave here in the coming week17:43
kbmonkeyhi Golynx , Kilos 17:43
Spekko*continuous17:43
GolynxKilos ty :)17:43
Kilosno a ping to try keep voda online17:44
kbmonkeyawesome17:44
JabberwockyA19murphy, that wasn't funny!17:44
KilosJabberwockyA19  wb tell bushtech  quick how to set up a continous ping there17:45
JabberwockyA19just as I answer Kilos about pinging to keep the connection open17:45
Kiloslol17:45
kbmonkeyKilos, you mean keepalive?17:45
JabberwockyA19I just use a normal 'ping www.google.com'17:45
Kilosya like that17:45
nuvolaribah! :(17:46
Kiloshi nuvolari  17:46
nuvolariwhy won't my do-dist-upgrade show 14.04?17:46
nuvolarihallo oom Kilos :)17:46
nuvolarigaan dit goed oom?17:46
Kilosya JabberwockyA19  but how do you make it comtinous17:46
Kilosredelik dankie en self nuvolari  ?17:46
JabberwockyA19if you're on ubuntu just like that17:46
kbmonkeyping goes on forever by default17:46
nuvolarioh hi apie :D17:47
GolynxKilos 'Star Wars: Episode VII' Cast Announced :) http://mashable.com/2014/04/29/star-wars-episode-vii-cast-announced/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link17:47
nuvolarihello JabberwockyA19 17:47
kbmonkeyhe he hi nuvo17:47
nuvolarilo Golynx 17:47
Golynxhi nuvolari17:47
JabberwockyA19naand nuvolari17:47
Kilosthere you got bushtech  ping www.google.com in a terminal17:47
* nuvolari wonder of hy 'n sessie dota moet inwerk veer die meeting17:47
nuvolari*voor17:47
JabberwockyA19ability draft sommer teen bots 20min np17:48
theblazehennuvolari: Good game?17:48
magespawngood evening17:48
Kiloshi magespawn  17:48
JabberwockyA19hi magespawn17:48
theblazehenNow to choose between starting DOTA or doing my school prject tomorrow...17:48
theblazehenhi magespawn 17:48
kbmonkeyhi magespawn 17:48
JabberwockyA19theblazehen: which subject?17:48
Golynxhi magespawn17:49
theblazehenJabberwockyA19: Physical Science17:49
theblazehenhi kbmonkey 17:49
Kilosnuvolari  we gonna pull you up in front of the committee17:49
theblazehenKilos: He do something bad? ;17:50
Squirmwoo17:50
theblazehen)17:50
Squirmfinally home17:50
nuvolaritheblazehen: it's ok, I'm not a big gamer17:50
kbmonkeyyar send some of that bandwidth to us!17:50
nuvolarithat makes a little sense17:50
nuvolariso I play it :P17:50
Kilosya he has been away from here for too long17:50
bushtechThanks JabberwockyA 19, Kilos17:50
Kiloshope it works bushtech  17:51
nuvolarihoekom oom Kilos ? :( ek is nie stout nie17:51
theblazehenkbmonkey: "yar send some of that bandwidth to us!" Sure thing! How many gbps of DDOS you want? :)17:51
Kilosjaja jy is, hoeveel tyd het jy hier spandeer in die laaste twee maande17:51
kbmonkeyhy spot maar net17:51
Kiloshi captine  17:52
captinehi there17:52
nuvolaridota it will be17:52
nuvolariaround 30 minutes17:53
magespawnDOTA ?17:53
theblazehenmagespawn: defense of the ancients IIRC17:54
magespawnright17:54
kbmonkeyI play this game called PYTHON17:54
Squirmyes17:54
kbmonkeyaka snake17:54
theblazehenkbmonkey: the ultimate puzzle game?17:54
Kiloshi Squirm  17:54
theblazehenI'm actually doing that right now17:54
kbmonkeyyes theblazehen he he17:54
magespawnme thinks the answer should be the other one then17:54
kbmonkeyme too17:54
theblazehenkbmonkey: At least vim looks good: http://imgur.com/pnsFI5q17:55
kbmonkeytheblazehen, you use bpython or ipython?17:56
theblazehenkbmonkey: ipython17:56
kbmonkeygood stuff17:57
JabberwockyA19skype! skype!17:58
kbmonkeylooks good theblazehen 17:58
magespawnwhat is ipython now?18:01
theblazehenkbmonkey: ty :)18:01
theblazehenmagespawn: better python interpreter18:02
Kiloskbmonkey  tell me more about keepalive18:02
magespawntheblazehen, better than?18:02
Kilosthe ping didnt help bush18:02
theblazehenmagespawn: the default python interpreter18:02
kbmonkeymagespawn, an interactive interpreter 18:03
theblazehenipython2 > python218:03
kbmonkeyhmm I do not see any email regarding the DVD's from maia. does anyone know if she received the DVD's? I thought it was mentioned earlier18:03
Kilosshe will be here tonight18:03
kbmonkeyKilos, I do not know of this ping fix. but irc clients have keepalive built-in mostly18:04
kbmonkeyexcellent thanks Kilos 18:04
Kilosthats if she doesnt forget18:04
Kiloshehe18:04
kbmonkeyI adding to agenda18:04
magespawni thought there was something on the list regarding the discs18:05
kbmonkeythe lists say we still waiting...18:05
Kilosthey havent arrived yet as far as i know18:05
magespawni am sure maia will let us all know18:06
kbmonkeyindeed :)18:06
Kilosyip she will18:06
Kilosi go make coffee18:06
kbmonkeylistening to Kraftwerk's Computer World18:06
Kilosoi bushtech  it didnt work18:11
Kiloshe is on quassel kbmonkey  is there some special setting for that thing18:12
bushtechyeh, doesn't help w/ a stuffed tower18:12
Kilosget twitter man18:12
Kilosare you on kubuntu?18:12
kbmonkeysorry I am not familiar with quassel18:13
kbmonkeyis that a client or a service?18:13
Kilosinetpro  is there a stayalive keepalive setting in quassel18:13
bushtechthis quassel connection is on a windoze machine :(18:13
kbmonkeyand is this on dsl or 3g broadband bushtech ?18:13
Kilosclient18:13
JabberwockyA19it's actually both18:13
bushtech3G18:13
Kilos3g via router18:14
kbmonkeymy 3g does the same when I use a local client :(18:14
JabberwockyA19quassel operates on a core (bouncer) and has a frontend gui that connects to it18:14
kbmonkeythat is why I use a shell account to avoid disconnects18:14
kbmonkeyah thanks JabberwockyA19 18:14
JabberwockyA19I have never used the core as a standalone thought18:15
JabberwockyA19*though18:15
kbmonkeyso then it is quassel's side18:15
Kilosmagespawn  knows about quassel18:15
Kilosbushtech  try konversation18:16
magespawnmaybe setup a ping 18:16
magespawnthat might keep it going.18:17
Kilostell him how magespawn  18:17
bushtechtried the ping18:17
Kilosping from cli didnt work18:17
bushtechproblem is the tower18:17
magespawnbut the cell company might just disconnect you based on amount of time online18:17
Kilostry pinging vodacom.co.za18:18
Kiloslet it hassle them18:18
bushtechdon't normally have this problem18:18
inetproto test whether ping will keep you alive I would do the following: ping -i10 -s0 -c35 8.8.8.818:19
inetprothat would ping the google dns service every 10 seconds for 5 minutes18:20
inetprowith a minimal amount of data18:20
inetproand if it works I would increase the increment until a maximum possible value18:21
inetproman ping18:22
inetproobviously if that doesn't work you're in trouble18:22
inetprotry a hard reset of the router/modem18:23
bushtechwill give it a try. Thanks inetpro18:23
bushtechwearing out the power plug on the router18:23
Kilosbushtech  mail me all your details and ill tweet the vodacom111 guy for you tomorrow18:23
Kilostower numbers area etc18:24
bushtechI have a query going with them currently18:24
magespawnback again18:24
Kiloswb magespawn  18:24
magespawnlooks like the wifi here needs some work18:24
Kiloswhere you went18:24
inetproactually mtr is much more intuitive and useful18:24
Kilosai! again18:25
inetpromtr -i10 -s0 8.8.8.818:25
bushtechIf it doesn't come right I'll try your way18:25
Kilosjust dont leave them to do it their way rev them daily18:25
magespawninetpro have you ever got strange results with mtr?18:26
magespawnwifi dropped me Kilos, now on tablet mifi18:26
inetpromagespawn: oh yes mtr is not so trustworthy as it should be18:26
Kilosoi18:26
inetproreporting more packet losses than a ping18:26
theblazeheninetpro: mtr +118:27
magespawnahh well, then at least it is not just me18:27
Kilosdunno how you peeps get anything done with such bad connections18:27
inetpromagespawn: could be you need to read the man page and set some extra options18:28
magespawnthat is always a possibility18:28
Kiloseish you and man18:28
* magespawn only reads man pages when dealing with toasters they can be mean18:29
Kilosinetpro  man doesnt explain as well as you do18:29
inetproI haven't researched the issue at all, if you can call it an issue18:29
JabberwockyA19<Kilos> inetpro  man doesnt explain as well as you do -> inetpro what a man18:29
inetproICMP traffic is low priority 18:30
kbmonkeybefore the internet all we had was man :]18:30
Kiloshis only hope will be to fight voda18:30
superflyohi18:30
kbmonkeyahoi18:30
Kilosohi superfly  18:30
kbmonkeyahoy*18:30
kbmonkeyjust in time18:30
JabberwockyA19ooooi superfly18:30
* superfly also uses Quassel18:30
kbmonkeywe shall start me thinks18:30
Kilosya18:31
kbmonkeyexcellent18:31
* superfly will try to keep up, got a few things on the go this evening18:31
nuvolarialoha18:31
Kiloslo nuvolari  welcome to ubuntu-za18:31
kbmonkeyMaaz, start meeting about Monthly IRC Meeting for April 201418:31
* Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles18:31
inetproMaaz: I am Gustav H Meyer18:31
Maazinetpro: Righto18:31
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Welcoming and Introduction18:32
MaazCurrent Topic: Welcoming and Introduction18:32
KilosMaaz  I am Miles Sharpe18:32
MaazKilos: Sure18:32
nuvolarithank you thank you18:32
* nuvolari bows18:32
kbmonkeyHello everybody, to the April 2014 edition of our monthly meetings!18:32
nuvolariMaaz: I am Johan Mynhardt18:32
Maaznuvolari: Alrighty18:32
superflyMaaz: I am Raoul Snyman18:32
Maazsuperfly: Alrighty18:32
magespawnMaaz I am Greg Eames18:32
Maazmagespawn: Alrighty18:32
Kilosbushtech  tell the bot who you are18:32
JabberwockyA19Maaz: I am Willem Dreyer18:33
MaazJabberwockyA19: Okay18:33
bushtechMaaz: I am Dries Laubscher18:33
Maazbushtech: Righto18:33
GolynxMaaz: I am Gerrit Pas18:33
MaazGolynx: Alrighty18:33
kbmonkeyPlease tell Maaz your name "maaz I am <your name>"18:33
kbmonkeyMaaz, I am Wesley Werner18:33
Maazkbmonkey: Yessir18:33
KilosSpekko  ^^18:33
kbmonkeyAnyone is welcome to join in later during the meeting too18:33
captinemaaz I am Bradley Putzier18:34
Maazcaptine: Alrighty18:34
inetprowho is here for the first time?18:34
kbmonkeynewcomers get a free banana18:34
Kilosbushtech  and spekko18:34
Kiloshaha18:34
* kbmonkey places a silver tray full of bananas on the table18:35
inetpronewcomers just stick up your hand like this o/18:35
Vince-0Maaz: I am Vincent Swart18:35
MaazVince-0: Done18:35
Kiloshi Vince-0  18:35
Vince-0G'd eve18:35
kbmonkeyAh yes, the agenda for tonights meeting can be seen at http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/781/detail/18:35
nuvolario/18:36
inetprolol18:36
kbmonkey\018:36
nuvolariø18:36
nuvolari^ compact format18:36
Kiloshehe18:36
kbmonkeyRight, so for those who are unfamiliar (or have amnesia), we just talk our way through a few points. 18:37
kbmonkeyOh and welcome again!18:37
inetprothis meeting should actually have happened last week... funny that nobody noticed18:37
Spekkohmm18:38
kbmonkeyindeed inetpro! I see the minutes says it was planned for the 22nd18:38
Spekkosomeone called ?18:38
kbmonkeywonder what happened there18:38
captinei join when the meeting reminder shows up.. ;)18:38
* Kilos goes to mail18:38
superflykbmonkey: holidays18:38
kbmonkey^ ah yes18:38
inetprocaptine: sorry, guess that was my fault for not registering it on g+ soon enough 18:38
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Review previous minutes18:38
MaazCurrent Topic: Review previous minutes18:38
kbmonkeySo firstly I want to mention the success of the Randburg Ubuntu release party as posted on the mailing list18:39
inetproglad that Kilos reminded us about the meeting ahead of today18:39
inetprokbmonkey: you have pictures?18:40
Kilosthere is one in the email18:40
kbmonkeyAbout 16 people attended18:40
kbmonkeyI do not inetpro, but the email on the list had a pic attached18:40
inetprocool18:40
captineinetpro, all good.  the reminder came and here I am. :)18:40
kbmonkeyI guess some may be posted on G+ but I cannot confirm that18:41
captineso sorry I missed the party.  Was really keen.  Just didnt make it18:41
inetpromaia will be happy if she can see something posted online18:41
inetproKilos: where is maia?18:41
kbmonkeyCongrats to Marius for organizing that one18:41
Kilosim waiting for a mail reply inetpro  18:42
superflyoo, can I add something to the agenda?18:42
Kilosyou okes need to work out a ping reminder on cellphones18:42
inetprokbmonkey: sorry for the noise mr chairman18:42
* inetpro keeps quiet 18:42
Kilosyes superfly  please do18:43
kbmonkeyno worries :)18:43
kbmonkeyNext up is just a thought to kep in mind Software Freedom Day on the 20th September18:44
kbmonkeyhmm, this shoudl be in Events topic..18:44
kbmonkeyand then we are waiting for the Ubuntu DVD's18:44
kbmonkeyWe will catch up with maia later with this one18:44
inetprokbmonkey: let's stick it under events for next meeting and add info as it comes18:45
kbmonkeyAgreed!18:45
kbmonkeymoving on from previous minutes...18:46
* inetpro still hates the fact that those links are not clickable in the agenda18:46
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Releases18:46
MaazCurrent Topic: Releases18:46
kbmonkeyso this is a new topic I like seeing18:47
* inetpro has seen a lot of very positive reviews of Trusty Thar18:48
Vince-0speeking of software freedom day18:48
Vince-0I have the recording of RMS at UKZN hosted:18:48
kbmonkeyI have been bad at new releases and would love somebody to mention something noteworthy18:48
Kilosit works18:49
kbmonkeyAh excellent Vince-0! do you have a link for us yet?18:49
Vince-0http://162.248.11.102/stallman_ukzn_20140906_960x540theora_128vorbis.mkv18:49
Vince-0its 387mb18:50
Vince-0I could probably make it smaller res18:50
Vince-0but it will play directly in chrome18:50
inetproeish!18:50
kbmonkeyah I have some data, I will see if I can transcode it to ogg18:50
kbmonkeyVince-0, I will mention this in an email to the list after the meeting, alright with you?18:51
inetproVince-0: will it stay up on the link?18:51
Vince-0its ogg vorbis18:51
Vince-0from .mov18:51
Vince-0sure, go ahead - that link will be up for some time18:51
inetproVince-0: thanks18:52
kbmonkeyoh it is ogg too, fair enought. from mov nogal? heh :)18:52
captinekbmonkey, I too have tons of data and a digitalocean droplet I could put it onto... if needed18:53
kbmonkeythanks captine I will shout if needed!18:54
kbmonkeyso... releases. 18:54
superflyI can host it too18:54
kbmonkeyKilos, you are running 14.04 now, yes?18:54
captinerunning 14.04 on my mbp.  VERY stable.18:54
Kilosyessir18:54
superflygot plenty of bandwidth on one of my servers18:54
nuvolarisorry :-/ municipal accounts to sort out18:54
Kilosvery happy18:54
captine14.04 server on some VM's too... for messing wtih18:54
inetproVince-0: you don't perhaps have a blog posting linking to that video?18:54
nuvolarion the topic of 14.04, I can't seem to upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS :-/18:55
kbmonkeygreat superfly - so many great offers18:55
nuvolariunless I miss something18:55
Vince-0negative, I havn't posted much about it -18:55
Kilosapart from some seetings that need more work to set it is great18:55
inetpronp18:55
Vince-0still waiting on the uni to release the copyright but I have permission to share it18:55
inetprocool18:56
JabberwockyA19I'm running 14.04 on my desktop with a new Radeon R9 gpu, open source and binary drivers working well, which is a first for me (coming from a nvidia prime background before)18:57
kbmonkeysorry I got some lag there18:58
kbmonkeyokay logged into ubuntu-za.org fine but I get an error when creating content - 18:58
superflyI'm runing 14.04 Kubuntu at work, all good18:58
superflykbmonkey: what error?18:58
kbmonkeyIt is great to hear such good feedback for 14.04 - think I should download a copy18:59
* inetpro wants to upgrade some ubuntu server installations asap18:59
Vince-0major features? I read about all the juju stuffs18:59
kbmonkeysuperfly, http://pastebin.com/iBp6vSki19:01
inetproVince-0: there's no big changes that I am aware of19:01
kbmonkeyanyway, wil look at posting the RMS talk on the blog19:01
captinei am trying to learn a bit of juju and docker.  very confusing for an accountant....19:02
kbmonkeywell as I am aware they did not end up shipping Mir with 14.04 as intended19:02
kbmonkeythe X display replacement19:02
JabberwockyA19I am glad they did not ship mir on the LTS19:02
superflykbmonkey: ah yes, I need to update a module. shouldn't stop you from posting anything though19:02
captinecorrect.  can test it though.  esp when testing touch applications etc, as it is in the repos as only Mir sits on the touch device images... i think19:03
kbmonkeyno worries superfly, thanks19:03
kbmonkeyUtopic Unicorn? For real-real? Well I never...19:04
inetprokbmonkey: yep19:04
inetprothat is no April fools joke19:04
superflyc'mon, you can't tell me you're suprised... after all the ones we've been through19:04
superflyhardy heron?19:04
Kiloshehe19:05
inetprokbmonkey: see http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/136319:05
kbmonkeyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes19:05
kbmonkeyTrue, and it is not as crazy as the RHEL codenames19:05
Golynxunicorns are for girls :p19:06
inetprounconstrained dreams :-)19:06
kbmonkeyexactly Golynx !19:06
Kilosno man he says so is chocolate19:07
kbmonkeywell I have 2 GB to use so think I will grab a copy tonight and try it out...19:07
Vince-0(Here's a blog post link for RMS rec: http://durbanlinux.org.za/?p=292)19:08
inetproVince-0: well done! 19:09
* inetpro will see to it that this link is added to the next agenda as part of the SFD event19:09
kbmonkeyMaaz, agreed Mention posting about the RMS UKZN Talk19:10
MaazAgreed: Mention posting about the RMS UKZN Talk19:10
kbmonkeythanks plenty Vince-0 !19:10
Vince-0k19:10
kbmonkeyShall we move to Events topic...19:10
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Events19:11
MaazCurrent Topic: Events19:11
kbmonkeyRight, Ubuntu developer summit (UDS) is on 11-13 March19:12
kbmonkeyhttp://uds.ubuntu.com/19:12
kbmonkeyit runs from 14h00 UTC - so that is 16h00 zulu time19:12
captineMarch?19:12
superflynot may?19:13
kbmonkeyuuh... yeah19:13
Kiloslol19:13
kbmonkeythe site says March... did this already happen?19:13
kbmonkeyor is the site wrong? whoops19:13
Kilosmessage from maia19:14
KilosUrk internet super dodgy struggling to get on.19:14
inetproI know the last one was in March19:14
kbmonkeyOkay the ubuntu site says UDS was March, so I guess this agenda item is wrong.19:15
inetpronext one can not be in May yet... so no detail of the next one yet... let's just move on19:15
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic OBS HackFest 25 May19:15
MaazCurrent Topic: OBS HackFest 25 May19:15
kbmonkeyThis is a Robot Derby, Code Hack and Hacker Fair19:16
inetproanyone else have more info?19:16
kbmonkeyWe are requesting support for the obligatory Ubuntu demo and hand out of free software to the public who will be attending combined Open Street Initiative and 100 things in 1 Day event.19:16
kbmonkeyhttps://www.piratepad.ca/p/obshack 19:17
kbmonkeyand for those who have facebook, https://www.facebook.com/events/474257305987287/?fref=ts19:17
kbmonkeythat piratepad link has plenty of detail 19:17
inetprocool19:18
kbmonkeyThis sounds pretty amazing19:18
kbmonkeyMaaz, agreed OBS HackFest and Robot Derby 25 May19:18
MaazAgreed: OBS HackFest and Robot Derby 25 May19:18
kbmonkeyadding items for the minutes...19:19
kbmonkeyanyone think of going? 19:19
kbmonkeyI am too far away at the moment...19:19
inetproVENUE: Gandalfs, Observatory for that Metal Flava19:20
inetprowhere is that?19:20
JabberwockyA19Observatory19:21
magespawnlol19:21
superflyCape Town19:21
JabberwockyA19south of Cape town19:21
kbmonkeyIndeed19:22
JabberwockyA19kbmonkey: I'm thinking of going19:22
kbmonkeyI certainly would if I was in Cape Town!19:22
inetproah19:23
kbmonkeyAh new item: release parties19:23
kbmonkeysome of us still have to have one19:23
Kilosbetter to plan that when you have the dvds19:23
Kilosor lotsa data19:24
kbmonkeywell if one person has the iso we can make copies19:24
kbmonkeyI'19:24
kbmonkeyI am to blame for kzn not having organized one19:24
Vince-0ha me219:25
kbmonkeyweekends have been taken up by family events, May is our party month I think19:25
Vince-0not much movement on the list19:25
kbmonkeyso I will try get something going. I know William tried to organize19:26
kbmonkeyMaaz, agreed KZN 14.04 Release party organization19:26
MaazAgreed: KZN 14.04 Release party organization19:26
kbmonkeyany other regions thinking about it?19:27
inetprosomeone else also mentioned freedom toaster the other day19:28
inetproreminds me of those days when we had lots of them around19:28
inetproperhaps we should try to get more involved again19:28
kbmonkey(a couple of minutes left on the meeting clock)19:28
Golynxis there something like BUE (Black Ubuntu Empowerment) in SA ?19:28
kbmonkeyyou know inetpro maybe a usb toaster?19:29
superflykbmonkey: what about my item?19:29
kbmonkeythere are more usb's around than blank cd's19:29
kbmonkeywe still getting to that superfly 19:29
superflymkay19:29
superflymeeting is progressing slowly tonight...19:30
kbmonkeysorry, was just waiting for other release party interests19:30
kbmonkeyI guess there is none19:30
Golynxusb's are expensive19:30
* inetpro also has a terrible lag19:30
kbmonkeywe got a larger agenda than usual superfly 19:30
KilosGolynx  but you can use them over and over19:30
kbmonkeyGolynx, I am not sure about BUE. Whether it applies to FOSS systems is a good question, because equality is already ensured by default19:31
GolynxKilos right, but for single OS distribution wh will cough up that kinda cash19:31
Golynxwho*19:32
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Minetest19:32
MaazCurrent Topic: Minetest19:32
Kilosthe toaster just puts the os on the stick19:32
superflyyay!19:32
Golynxkbmonkey yeah thats true19:32
Kiloseach person brings their own19:32
* superfly grabs the limelight :-P19:32
superflyanyone else here play Minetest or Minecraft?19:33
kbmonkeyGolynx, it will be a temporary thing then they can reclaim their usb, good point though19:33
kbmonkeysuperfly, No but I may be curious. Does it require a low latency connection ?19:33
* JabberwockyA19 googles minetest19:33
superflyI'm not sure. the rendering is all done client side19:33
superflyminetest runs as singleplayer locally19:34
superflybut I'm running a server19:34
kbmonkeyI mean it is more an exploratory type game, and not one where quick reactions win?19:34
superflyif anyone is interested in playing on my server, just ping me and I'll send you the address19:34
superflykbmonkey: it's like lego19:34
kbmonkeyAwesome19:34
kbmonkeyokay then I think I would like to try :)19:35
superflyit's in the repos19:35
superflyapt-get install minetest19:35
superflyhttp://wiki.minetest.net/How_to_build_your_first_house19:35
superflythat's the basics of ir19:35
superfly*it19:35
superflythe wiki has more information19:35
kbmonkeyI have family visiting from overseas tomorrow for a week, so may only be able to game after that19:35
superflyor you can just ask me19:35
* kbmonkey bookmarks link19:36
* superfly is done now19:36
Golynx_ai19:36
kbmonkeyMaaz, idea Minetest server run by superfly19:36
MaazIdea recorded: Minetest server run by superfly19:36
kbmonkeyrecorded if anyone needs to know who to contact 19:36
kbmonkeyI want to build a giant Tux :)19:37
kbmonkeyRight, I believe that is our agenda done!19:37
=== Golynx_ is now known as Golynx
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Questions19:37
MaazCurrent Topic: Questions19:37
Kilosbushtech  something is working19:37
kbmonkeyany questions?19:37
magespawnsuperfly my son plays at home19:38
JabberwockyA19has anyone played starbound?19:39
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Elect chair for next meeting19:39
MaazCurrent Topic: Elect chair for next meeting19:39
kbmonkeybefore we get game crazy...19:39
* Kilos votes for kbmonkey19:39
* kbmonkey waves a banana in the air 19:39
inetpro+1 for kbmonkey19:39
magespawnkbmonkey +119:39
Kilosty kbmonkey  nice job tonight19:39
Golynxkbmonkey 1+19:40
JabberwockyA19kbmonkey +119:40
kbmonkeyMaaz, agreed kbmonkey to chair next meeting19:40
MaazAgreed: kbmonkey to chair next meeting19:40
kbmonkeyexcellent. oh wehn is the next meeting.. hmmm19:40
kbmonkey26th May19:40
inetpronuvolari: why so quiet?19:41
kbmonkeyerr, 27th - Tuesdays. almost forgot19:41
inetprokbmonkey: yep, 27th19:41
kbmonkeyMaaz, agreed Next meeting on the 27th May 201419:41
MaazAgreed: Next meeting on the 27th May 201419:41
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Closing19:42
MaazCurrent Topic: Closing19:42
inetprothanks kbmonkey19:42
kbmonkeyRight that is it folks! I guess we got tired near the second half19:42
Vince-0whoot19:42
kbmonkeyI award a banana sticker to everyone who was here tonight!19:42
Kiloshehe19:42
Kilosjust now we call you kbnana19:43
kbmonkeyMaaz, end meeting19:43
MaazMeeting Ended19:43
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kbmonkeyAh now I will create the next meeting detail and try make a summary for the list19:44
magespawnsuperfly minetest details? ping19:44
Vince-0im afk! cya kbmonkey, #ubuntu-za members19:45
kbmonkeyciao Vince-0 thanks for coming!19:45
inetprokbmonkey: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/783/detail/19:45
kbmonkeyExcellent pro19:46
inetprowe just need to populate the info again19:46
Kilosditto superfly  ill ry too pleas19:46
Kilose19:46
inetprowould be nice if we could just copy and paste 19:46
Kilosai!19:46
kbmonkeyIll pop some items in19:47
kbmonkeythis loco site is slow19:47
inetproterrible19:48
inetproand my connection is not at it's best this evening19:49
kbmonkeyKilos, I put my modem on the window sill it gets 3g, it runs out of battery like now, I take it down to charge and drops to 0.5g19:49
Kilosai!19:49
Kilosmove the charger closer19:50
inetprorather take the power up19:50
Kiloswhat modems use external chargers19:51
inetproKilos: my router does19:52
Kilosoh them things ya19:52
kbmonkeythis agenda editor is not so nice 19:54
kbmonkeyI wish it was markdown19:55
inetprokbmonkey: exactly19:55
inetproneed lot's of patience19:56
* Kilos needs to sleep19:59
magespawni am off to bed, long day catching up with me, good night all19:59
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:59
Golynxnight Kilos20:00
Golynxnight magespawn20:00
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inetprokbmonkey: have you given up for now?20:11
kbmonkeyinetpro, no I just lost connectivity for a while20:16
* inetpro filling in from the back20:17
kbmonkeywas writing up a meeting summary meanwhile20:17
inetprook I'll add and you can modify as needed... hope we don't cause a clash20:18
kbmonkeymore is better, right ;)20:19
kbmonkeyI already added things in the wrong place but it is a pain to fix20:20
inetprono worries, we have enough time to fix before the next meeting20:22
kbmonkeysuperfly, would you like me to mention on the list of your Minetest server?20:22
kbmonkeywriting up a meeting summary of agreed items and ideas20:22
superflynothing more than I have a server, and to contact me if you'd like to join.20:23
kbmonkeygreat.20:23
superflykbmonkey: it's very open at the moment, I have resisted closing it, so I'm a bit wary of a ton of people I don't know joining20:23
inetprokbmonkey: yikes! How do I delete?20:24
kbmonkeycan you make it unlisted/invite only?20:24
inetproand how did you get a bigger font there?20:24
kbmonkeyhahaha, duplicates!20:24
superflykbmonkey: I can put a password on it20:24
kbmonkeyinetpro, I prefixed a line with # like one dos in markdown20:25
kbmonkeydid not realize it would do that20:25
inetprointeresting20:25
kbmonkeycool superfly, no point putting a password in the email so Ill let you hand it out on contact20:25
inetpromaybe we just need to learn the syntax... anyway I'm stepping off now... need some sleep20:26
kbmonkey...if you put a password that is20:26
kbmonkeysleep sounds so nice20:26
superflykbmonkey: I'll see how it goes. if I suddenly have a surge of players, I might password-protect it20:26
inetprokbmonkey: maybe we should just do like California http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-california/782/detail/20:27
kbmonkeyyou're kidding me. That is a much better idea!20:29
inetproor like the Arizona LoCo Team http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-arizona/762/detail/20:30
kbmonkeywill make editing and ordering much easier20:30
kbmonkeyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam20:30
inetprojust an idea20:31
inetproI know maia will kill me for saying that, again20:31
kbmonkeybut we have meetings on the wiki from previous years, so why not20:31
inetproI get it that some people get intimidated by markup language20:32
kbmonkeyIt's just really tricky to use that agenda interface. You dont need markup, just a list will do.20:33
inetprothat was before the loco portal 20:33
* inetpro agress20:33
inetproagrees as well20:33
inetproanyway, something to think about20:34
inetprogood night20:34
kbmonkeynite inetpro 20:34
kbmonkeychat again!20:34
kbmonkeyeish, ubuntu wiki does not want to load the login page. strange.20:37

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