[05:38] o/ aloha [06:04] hi jabberwocky93 Spekko inetpro and other lurkers [06:13] more Kilos [06:17] hi Kilos, morning all! [06:28] lo oom Kilos [06:28] lo nuvolari gaanit? [06:29] jy is so skaars ons begin dink om die mafia na jou te stuur [06:32] jy baie stout/stoud [06:32] daai ding [06:34] haha hi bushtech rev them some more [06:37] hi everyone [06:37] and good morning Kilos [06:37] hi inetpro [06:46] hi Private_User [06:46] oops sorry inetpro didnt see you tweeted the meet already [06:49] morning ThatGraemeGuy [06:54] mornings :-) [07:27] hi Golynx [07:27] good morning [07:27] Maaz: coffee on [07:27] * Maaz puts the kettle on [07:27] hi charl_ [07:28] hi Kilos [07:28] hi charl_ [07:28] Kilos: np [07:30] hi Kilos [07:30] hi Golynx [07:30] hi inetpro [07:30] how's it going [07:31] Coffee's ready for charl_! [07:31] Maaz: thanks [07:31] charl_: No problem [07:41] hi Vince-0 [07:41] meeting tonight hey! [07:42] whats happened to smileyborg [07:45] hi superfly [07:46] Haai [07:46] that quassel thing cheats, [07:59] yaar [08:00] I haven't seen Smiles for a while [08:04] _o/ Vince-0 [08:04] haai [08:04] whats a quassel [08:18] quassel is an irc client [08:19] one you can bounce with [08:20] oh ping pong [08:22] you can bounce with any client o_O [08:22] just kidding :D [08:22] hi ThatGraemeGuy [08:23] 'lo :) [08:25] oh [09:21] zbnc is also populair [09:44] hi theblazehen [09:45] hi Kilos [09:47] hi Kilos yes I replied [09:47] I was away remember lol [09:47] hi kbmonkey [09:47] to what? [09:48] I dunno to what I just got away log the pro asking you Kilos if I replied ;0 [09:48] as long as you are here tonight and drag nuvo with you all good [09:48] oh ya i told him you did [09:48] excellent! [09:49] you the man Kilos [09:49] ai! [09:50] did i tell you that 14.04 sees the d-link modem [09:50] * Kilos happy [09:53] oh good show [09:53] where did you get 14.04 from? [09:54] I will be so blerrie tired after work today. half way there [09:55] got it 2 weeks early with the daily build [09:55] then got 14.04 with the release [09:55] both very lekker [09:55] kde i mean the secong one [09:56] ai! /secong/second [10:01] hi Rynomster meeting tonight hey [10:06] good day [10:06] hi magespawn [10:06] on the right day for the meeting just a couple of hours early [10:09] rofl [10:28] hi magespawn [10:28] you been scarce [10:28] how's it going with the wifi and the asterisk [10:30] here is one for people with slow internet http://levamedlagg.se/ [10:30] how extremely disturbing lag is [10:31] hi charl_ [10:32] wifi is good and i am getting a handle on asterisk [10:32] very nice [10:56] we need one of those nudge tools in other im goodies to remind rynmster he has irc as well [11:02] what do you call those popups that show youve moved to another workspace on kde [11:02] i want to disable them [11:06] hmmm just tried pass for the first time but am not impressed [11:06] a good concept but it isn't nearly a replacement for keepass2 [11:32] magespawn, Asterisk help Vince-0, you know asterisk? [11:43] I do, in production since 2008 [11:49] wat maak jy daar? I do vicidial lately - yawn [11:50] I actually prefer Freeswitch from a dev point of view [12:03] i have just taken over a couple of running systems, one at the head office and another two at two of the hotels [12:04] freepbx? I'd prefer that for pbxy things [12:09] need to move modem to other pc. wbb be good [12:09] Maaz watch them [12:09] OK Kilos I'll keep an eye on them for you [12:12] vanilla asterisk [12:23] magespawn, ew, might be worth while looking at freepbx - it covers all pbx use cases I've seen. [12:23] can go under the hood to get at vanilla asterisk [12:30] i was having a look at the various options, this is just what i inherited [12:32] besides i figure that if i can learn asterisk on it own the other should be straight froward [12:33] i might have to set up some sort of test machine to see which works best here [12:39] sure, I'm guessing there's a bunch of 3rd party apps that work with the existing systems - I think you mentioned bookings etc [12:39] just get the FreePBX ISO , its the bizniz [12:40] magespawn, disconnected? [13:45] later all. got to go out on the road, thanks for the head up Vince-0 [14:14] ! [14:16] im back [14:27] kbmonkey: just check that agenda before our meeting [14:27] I'm not sure those events are all valid [14:28] like that UDS, think it was in March and the next one can't be in May already [14:32] everyone else who still knows about any other events please let us know so we update the agenda already [14:32] or any other topics [14:34] wb Xethron [14:37] oh and please tell me if you know the syntax to create clickable links in the loco team portal [14:37] wish they would fall back to a wiki site for that [14:44] haha [14:44] Heya guys [14:44] Is ther a place you can buy Ubuntu Laptops in SA? [14:45] hi Xethron [14:46] wassup Xethron did you blow yours? [14:47] I can't spend all day every day debugging a problem that can't be found [14:47] I need a laptop that works with Linux [14:47] Thats been built for Linux and that I can take back if it doesn't work with Linux [14:48] oh my [14:48] read that [14:48] http://fullcirclemagazine.org/issue-84/ [14:49] there is a section on putting ubuntu onto a mac [14:51] lol [14:51] I don't have a mac :P [14:51] And if I did, I'd prob run OSX on it [14:51] :P [14:52] oh what probs are you having then [14:52] i get mixed up with who has what [14:53] there was lots in the lists about local pcs with linux preinstalled about a year ago but i dont remember what the outcome was [14:53] i think there was a place or 2 that would do it [14:54] start with what lappy you have and then give the probs [15:04] Kilos: I'd rather start with no OS on the machine, than linux, really [15:04] yeah theblazehen but where do you buy such a lappy [15:05] Kilos: not sure, shouldnt be TOO hard to find though [15:05] heh, DOS doesn't use much RAM.. 147 KB used of 16 GB :D [15:05] see if you can find one [15:06] mecerpc.co.za [15:07] Xethron check out mecerpc.co.za [15:08] tx [15:09] theblazehen: its just that my current laptop keeps crashing [15:09] so need something that supports Ubuntu [15:10] o/ see you all later [15:10] for the meeting [15:11] ok nuvolari [15:13] didn't someone say that system76 would be available locally at some point? [15:15] https://www.system76.com/home/shippinginformation/ [15:51] nice find inetpro [15:52] ho do their prices compare [15:52] how also [16:36] hi sf55 welcome to ubuntu-za [16:37] oh my [16:38] hi Kilos [16:38] hi JabberwockyA19 [16:38] only 2 hours to wait for the meeting to start [16:40] not studying tonight, wil be here the meeting :) [16:40] cool [16:41] When is meeting starting? [16:41] Kilos: ^ [16:41] * JabberwockyA19 tries to compile cgminer in the meanwhile [16:41] 20.30 [16:41] Kilos: kk, ty [16:42] np [16:42] JabberwockyA19: litecoin? [16:42] JabberwockyA19: or other scrypt? [16:42] On linux? [16:43] JabberwockyA19: If you need help I have 9 GPU's all mining on linux, feel free to /msg me [16:48] theblazehen: thanks, I've recently joined the waffle pool. I can't use cgminer > 3.7.x and I need to download the dev dependencies. The problem I have is I've capped my internet twice this month already. [16:49] JabberwockyA19: I'd recommend sgminer, allows more optimisation, and with zabbix OCL kernel [16:49] Also look at ipominer.com and nicehash.com, as well as poolpicker.eu [16:50] still very new to mining in general, I managed to get ~750Mh/s in windows on my 280x [16:50] JabberwockyA19: yeah, 760 here [16:50] and KH/s * [16:50] heh yeah KH* [16:50] JabberwockyA19: unless you forgot to use --scrypt? [16:50] ok [16:51] JabberwockyA19: How many cards? [16:52] thanks, i'll check those out for sure! [17:04] theblazehen: uhm 1, hehe [17:04] hi theblazehen, JabberwockyA19 [17:04] JabberwockyA19: heh, ok. [17:04] my brother is running x2 270's getting 900-1000KH/s [17:04] hey Golynx [17:05] JabberwockyA19: Can you get him to share his config? Thanks [17:06] sure, I think I've got it here somewhere... [17:12] theblazehen: not very organised, but here it is http://codeshare.io/b95DF [17:13] using '-' infront of variables that still needs more tuning [17:14] JabberwockyA19: ty [17:15] np [17:35] AWE!! [17:35] hi spekko_ [17:35] Gelagtes [17:35] hello Kilos [17:36] hi spekko_ [17:36] * JabberwockyA19 tricked spekko_ into joining! [17:36] nickserve se wat !? [17:36] hey you clever peeps wont a continuous ping stop disconnections [17:37] Kilos: it helps for me [17:37] ya spekko_ meeting times everyone must attend or your pc will crash [17:37] or, alternatively we could continue to spam the channel [17:37] ROFL! [17:38] JabberwockyA19 will you help bush set it up there by him === spekko_ is now known as Spekko [17:38] hi Spekko [17:38] spekko_ we have contacts in the local mafia to sort spammers out [17:38] inetpro, roger that [17:39] bushtech you here now [17:39] ?? [17:39] hi Golynx [17:39] Hope so Having Vodacom problems again [17:39] Kilos: we do? [17:40] Yay! [17:40] bushtech try a continuous ping [17:40] JabberwockyA19 tell him how [17:40] please [17:40] yes please [17:41] oh my there he goes [17:42] heh [17:42] kbmonkey evening, help man [17:42] hi Kilos [17:42] Luik my Jabberwocky se cap is uit [17:42] net very slow. trying to log in to loco [17:42] kbmonkey how you set a continuous ping [17:43] hi kbmonkey sir [17:43] continues ping on irc ? [17:43] Golynx dvd will leave here in the coming week [17:43] hi Golynx , Kilos [17:43] *continuous [17:43] Kilos ty :) [17:44] no a ping to try keep voda online [17:44] awesome [17:44] murphy, that wasn't funny! [17:45] JabberwockyA19 wb tell bushtech quick how to set up a continous ping there [17:45] just as I answer Kilos about pinging to keep the connection open [17:45] lol [17:45] Kilos, you mean keepalive? [17:45] I just use a normal 'ping www.google.com' [17:45] ya like that [17:46] bah! :( [17:46] hi nuvolari [17:46] why won't my do-dist-upgrade show 14.04? [17:46] hallo oom Kilos :) [17:46] gaan dit goed oom? [17:46] ya JabberwockyA19 but how do you make it comtinous [17:46] redelik dankie en self nuvolari ? [17:46] if you're on ubuntu just like that [17:46] ping goes on forever by default [17:47] oh hi apie :D [17:47] Kilos 'Star Wars: Episode VII' Cast Announced :) http://mashable.com/2014/04/29/star-wars-episode-vii-cast-announced/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link [17:47] hello JabberwockyA19 [17:47] he he hi nuvo [17:47] lo Golynx [17:47] hi nuvolari [17:47] naand nuvolari [17:47] there you got bushtech ping www.google.com in a terminal [17:47] * nuvolari wonder of hy 'n sessie dota moet inwerk veer die meeting [17:47] *voor [17:48] ability draft sommer teen bots 20min np [17:48] nuvolari: Good game? [17:48] good evening [17:48] hi magespawn [17:48] hi magespawn [17:48] Now to choose between starting DOTA or doing my school prject tomorrow... [17:48] hi magespawn [17:48] hi magespawn [17:48] theblazehen: which subject? [17:49] hi magespawn [17:49] JabberwockyA19: Physical Science [17:49] hi kbmonkey [17:49] nuvolari we gonna pull you up in front of the committee [17:50] Kilos: He do something bad? ; [17:50] woo [17:50] ) [17:50] finally home [17:50] theblazehen: it's ok, I'm not a big gamer [17:50] yar send some of that bandwidth to us! [17:50] that makes a little sense [17:50] so I play it :P [17:50] ya he has been away from here for too long [17:50] Thanks JabberwockyA 19, Kilos [17:51] hope it works bushtech [17:51] hoekom oom Kilos ? :( ek is nie stout nie [17:51] kbmonkey: "yar send some of that bandwidth to us!" Sure thing! How many gbps of DDOS you want? :) [17:51] jaja jy is, hoeveel tyd het jy hier spandeer in die laaste twee maande [17:51] hy spot maar net [17:52] hi captine [17:52] hi there [17:52] dota it will be [17:53] around 30 minutes [17:53] DOTA ? [17:54] magespawn: defense of the ancients IIRC [17:54] right [17:54] I play this game called PYTHON [17:54] yes [17:54] aka snake [17:54] kbmonkey: the ultimate puzzle game? [17:54] hi Squirm [17:54] I'm actually doing that right now [17:54] yes theblazehen he he [17:54] me thinks the answer should be the other one then [17:54] me too [17:55] kbmonkey: At least vim looks good: http://imgur.com/pnsFI5q [17:56] theblazehen, you use bpython or ipython? [17:56] kbmonkey: ipython [17:57] good stuff [17:58] skype! skype! [17:58] looks good theblazehen [18:01] what is ipython now? [18:01] kbmonkey: ty :) [18:02] magespawn: better python interpreter [18:02] kbmonkey tell me more about keepalive [18:02] theblazehen, better than? [18:02] the ping didnt help bush [18:02] magespawn: the default python interpreter [18:03] magespawn, an interactive interpreter [18:03] ipython2 > python2 [18:03] hmm I do not see any email regarding the DVD's from maia. does anyone know if she received the DVD's? I thought it was mentioned earlier [18:03] she will be here tonight [18:04] Kilos, I do not know of this ping fix. but irc clients have keepalive built-in mostly [18:04] excellent thanks Kilos [18:04] thats if she doesnt forget [18:04] hehe [18:04] I adding to agenda [18:05] i thought there was something on the list regarding the discs [18:05] the lists say we still waiting... [18:05] they havent arrived yet as far as i know [18:06] i am sure maia will let us all know [18:06] indeed :) [18:06] yip she will [18:06] i go make coffee [18:06] listening to Kraftwerk's Computer World [18:11] oi bushtech it didnt work [18:12] he is on quassel kbmonkey is there some special setting for that thing [18:12] yeh, doesn't help w/ a stuffed tower [18:12] get twitter man [18:12] are you on kubuntu? [18:13] sorry I am not familiar with quassel [18:13] is that a client or a service? [18:13] inetpro is there a stayalive keepalive setting in quassel [18:13] this quassel connection is on a windoze machine :( [18:13] and is this on dsl or 3g broadband bushtech ? [18:13] client [18:13] it's actually both [18:13] 3G [18:14] 3g via router [18:14] my 3g does the same when I use a local client :( [18:14] quassel operates on a core (bouncer) and has a frontend gui that connects to it [18:14] that is why I use a shell account to avoid disconnects [18:14] ah thanks JabberwockyA19 [18:15] I have never used the core as a standalone thought [18:15] *though [18:15] so then it is quassel's side [18:15] magespawn knows about quassel [18:16] bushtech try konversation [18:16] maybe setup a ping [18:17] that might keep it going. [18:17] tell him how magespawn [18:17] tried the ping [18:17] ping from cli didnt work [18:17] problem is the tower [18:17] but the cell company might just disconnect you based on amount of time online [18:18] try pinging vodacom.co.za [18:18] let it hassle them [18:18] don't normally have this problem [18:19] to test whether ping will keep you alive I would do the following: ping -i10 -s0 -c35 8.8.8.8 [18:20] that would ping the google dns service every 10 seconds for 5 minutes [18:20] with a minimal amount of data [18:21] and if it works I would increase the increment until a maximum possible value [18:22] man ping [18:22] obviously if that doesn't work you're in trouble [18:23] try a hard reset of the router/modem [18:23] will give it a try. Thanks inetpro [18:23] wearing out the power plug on the router [18:23] bushtech mail me all your details and ill tweet the vodacom111 guy for you tomorrow [18:24] tower numbers area etc [18:24] I have a query going with them currently [18:24] back again [18:24] wb magespawn [18:24] looks like the wifi here needs some work [18:24] where you went [18:24] actually mtr is much more intuitive and useful [18:25] ai! again [18:25] mtr -i10 -s0 8.8.8.8 [18:25] If it doesn't come right I'll try your way [18:25] just dont leave them to do it their way rev them daily [18:26] inetpro have you ever got strange results with mtr? [18:26] wifi dropped me Kilos, now on tablet mifi [18:26] magespawn: oh yes mtr is not so trustworthy as it should be [18:26] oi [18:26] reporting more packet losses than a ping [18:27] inetpro: mtr +1 [18:27] ahh well, then at least it is not just me [18:27] dunno how you peeps get anything done with such bad connections [18:28] magespawn: could be you need to read the man page and set some extra options [18:28] that is always a possibility [18:28] eish you and man [18:29] * magespawn only reads man pages when dealing with toasters they can be mean [18:29] inetpro man doesnt explain as well as you do [18:29] I haven't researched the issue at all, if you can call it an issue [18:29] inetpro man doesnt explain as well as you do -> inetpro what a man [18:30] ICMP traffic is low priority [18:30] before the internet all we had was man :] [18:30] his only hope will be to fight voda [18:30] ohi [18:30] ahoi [18:30] ohi superfly [18:30] ahoy* [18:30] just in time [18:30] ooooi superfly [18:30] * superfly also uses Quassel [18:30] we shall start me thinks [18:31] ya [18:31] excellent [18:31] * superfly will try to keep up, got a few things on the go this evening [18:31] aloha [18:31] lo nuvolari welcome to ubuntu-za [18:31] Maaz, start meeting about Monthly IRC Meeting for April 2014 [18:31] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:31] Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer [18:31] inetpro: Righto [18:32] Maaz, topic Welcoming and Introduction [18:32] Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction [18:32] Maaz I am Miles Sharpe [18:32] Kilos: Sure [18:32] thank you thank you [18:32] * nuvolari bows [18:32] Hello everybody, to the April 2014 edition of our monthly meetings! [18:32] Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt [18:32] nuvolari: Alrighty [18:32] Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [18:32] superfly: Alrighty [18:32] Maaz I am Greg Eames [18:32] magespawn: Alrighty [18:32] bushtech tell the bot who you are [18:33] Maaz: I am Willem Dreyer [18:33] JabberwockyA19: Okay [18:33] Maaz: I am Dries Laubscher [18:33] bushtech: Righto [18:33] Maaz: I am Gerrit Pas [18:33] Golynx: Alrighty [18:33] Please tell Maaz your name "maaz I am " [18:33] Maaz, I am Wesley Werner [18:33] kbmonkey: Yessir [18:33] Spekko ^^ [18:33] Anyone is welcome to join in later during the meeting too [18:34] maaz I am Bradley Putzier [18:34] captine: Alrighty [18:34] who is here for the first time? [18:34] newcomers get a free banana [18:34] bushtech and spekko [18:34] haha [18:35] * kbmonkey places a silver tray full of bananas on the table [18:35] newcomers just stick up your hand like this o/ [18:35] Maaz: I am Vincent Swart [18:35] Vince-0: Done [18:35] hi Vince-0 [18:35] G'd eve [18:35] Ah yes, the agenda for tonights meeting can be seen at http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/781/detail/ [18:36] o/ [18:36] lol [18:36] \0 [18:36] ΓΈ [18:36] ^ compact format [18:36] hehe [18:37] Right, so for those who are unfamiliar (or have amnesia), we just talk our way through a few points. [18:37] Oh and welcome again! [18:37] this meeting should actually have happened last week... funny that nobody noticed [18:38] hmm [18:38] indeed inetpro! I see the minutes says it was planned for the 22nd [18:38] someone called ? [18:38] wonder what happened there [18:38] i join when the meeting reminder shows up.. ;) [18:38] * Kilos goes to mail [18:38] kbmonkey: holidays [18:38] ^ ah yes [18:38] captine: sorry, guess that was my fault for not registering it on g+ soon enough [18:38] Maaz, topic Review previous minutes [18:38] Current Topic: Review previous minutes [18:39] So firstly I want to mention the success of the Randburg Ubuntu release party as posted on the mailing list [18:39] glad that Kilos reminded us about the meeting ahead of today [18:40] kbmonkey: you have pictures? [18:40] there is one in the email [18:40] About 16 people attended [18:40] I do not inetpro, but the email on the list had a pic attached [18:40] cool [18:40] inetpro, all good. the reminder came and here I am. :) [18:41] I guess some may be posted on G+ but I cannot confirm that [18:41] so sorry I missed the party. Was really keen. Just didnt make it [18:41] maia will be happy if she can see something posted online [18:41] Kilos: where is maia? [18:41] Congrats to Marius for organizing that one [18:42] im waiting for a mail reply inetpro [18:42] oo, can I add something to the agenda? [18:42] you okes need to work out a ping reminder on cellphones [18:42] kbmonkey: sorry for the noise mr chairman [18:42] * inetpro keeps quiet [18:43] yes superfly please do [18:43] no worries :) [18:44] Next up is just a thought to kep in mind Software Freedom Day on the 20th September [18:44] hmm, this shoudl be in Events topic.. [18:44] and then we are waiting for the Ubuntu DVD's [18:44] We will catch up with maia later with this one [18:45] kbmonkey: let's stick it under events for next meeting and add info as it comes [18:45] Agreed! [18:46] moving on from previous minutes... [18:46] * inetpro still hates the fact that those links are not clickable in the agenda [18:46] Maaz, topic Releases [18:46] Current Topic: Releases [18:47] so this is a new topic I like seeing [18:48] * inetpro has seen a lot of very positive reviews of Trusty Thar [18:48] speeking of software freedom day [18:48] I have the recording of RMS at UKZN hosted: [18:48] I have been bad at new releases and would love somebody to mention something noteworthy [18:49] it works [18:49] Ah excellent Vince-0! do you have a link for us yet? [18:49] http://162.248.11.102/stallman_ukzn_20140906_960x540theora_128vorbis.mkv [18:50] its 387mb [18:50] I could probably make it smaller res [18:50] but it will play directly in chrome [18:50] eish! [18:50] ah I have some data, I will see if I can transcode it to ogg [18:51] Vince-0, I will mention this in an email to the list after the meeting, alright with you? [18:51] Vince-0: will it stay up on the link? [18:51] its ogg vorbis [18:51] from .mov [18:51] sure, go ahead - that link will be up for some time [18:52] Vince-0: thanks [18:52] oh it is ogg too, fair enought. from mov nogal? heh :) [18:53] kbmonkey, I too have tons of data and a digitalocean droplet I could put it onto... if needed [18:54] thanks captine I will shout if needed! [18:54] so... releases. [18:54] I can host it too [18:54] Kilos, you are running 14.04 now, yes? [18:54] running 14.04 on my mbp. VERY stable. [18:54] yessir [18:54] got plenty of bandwidth on one of my servers [18:54] sorry :-/ municipal accounts to sort out [18:54] very happy [18:54] 14.04 server on some VM's too... for messing wtih [18:54] Vince-0: you don't perhaps have a blog posting linking to that video? [18:55] on the topic of 14.04, I can't seem to upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS :-/ [18:55] great superfly - so many great offers [18:55] unless I miss something [18:55] negative, I havn't posted much about it - [18:55] apart from some seetings that need more work to set it is great [18:55] np [18:55] still waiting on the uni to release the copyright but I have permission to share it [18:56] cool [18:57] I'm running 14.04 on my desktop with a new Radeon R9 gpu, open source and binary drivers working well, which is a first for me (coming from a nvidia prime background before) [18:58] sorry I got some lag there [18:58] okay logged into ubuntu-za.org fine but I get an error when creating content - [18:58] I'm runing 14.04 Kubuntu at work, all good [18:58] kbmonkey: what error? [18:59] It is great to hear such good feedback for 14.04 - think I should download a copy [18:59] * inetpro wants to upgrade some ubuntu server installations asap [18:59] major features? I read about all the juju stuffs [19:01] superfly, http://pastebin.com/iBp6vSki [19:01] Vince-0: there's no big changes that I am aware of [19:01] anyway, wil look at posting the RMS talk on the blog [19:02] i am trying to learn a bit of juju and docker. very confusing for an accountant.... [19:02] well as I am aware they did not end up shipping Mir with 14.04 as intended [19:02] the X display replacement [19:02] I am glad they did not ship mir on the LTS [19:02] kbmonkey: ah yes, I need to update a module. shouldn't stop you from posting anything though [19:03] correct. can test it though. esp when testing touch applications etc, as it is in the repos as only Mir sits on the touch device images... i think [19:03] no worries superfly, thanks [19:04] Utopic Unicorn? For real-real? Well I never... [19:04] kbmonkey: yep [19:04] that is no April fools joke [19:04] c'mon, you can't tell me you're suprised... after all the ones we've been through [19:04] hardy heron? [19:05] hehe [19:05] kbmonkey: see http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1363 [19:05] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes [19:05] True, and it is not as crazy as the RHEL codenames [19:06] unicorns are for girls :p [19:06] unconstrained dreams :-) [19:06] exactly Golynx ! [19:07] no man he says so is chocolate [19:07] well I have 2 GB to use so think I will grab a copy tonight and try it out... [19:08] (Here's a blog post link for RMS rec: http://durbanlinux.org.za/?p=292) [19:09] Vince-0: well done! [19:09] * inetpro will see to it that this link is added to the next agenda as part of the SFD event [19:10] Maaz, agreed Mention posting about the RMS UKZN Talk [19:10] Agreed: Mention posting about the RMS UKZN Talk [19:10] thanks plenty Vince-0 ! [19:10] k [19:10] Shall we move to Events topic... [19:11] Maaz, topic Events [19:11] Current Topic: Events [19:12] Right, Ubuntu developer summit (UDS) is on 11-13 March [19:12] http://uds.ubuntu.com/ [19:12] it runs from 14h00 UTC - so that is 16h00 zulu time [19:12] March? [19:13] not may? [19:13] uuh... yeah [19:13] lol [19:13] the site says March... did this already happen? [19:13] or is the site wrong? whoops [19:14] message from maia [19:14] Urk internet super dodgy struggling to get on. [19:14] I know the last one was in March [19:15] Okay the ubuntu site says UDS was March, so I guess this agenda item is wrong. [19:15] next one can not be in May yet... so no detail of the next one yet... let's just move on [19:15] Maaz, topic OBS HackFest 25 May [19:15] Current Topic: OBS HackFest 25 May [19:16] This is a Robot Derby, Code Hack and Hacker Fair [19:16] anyone else have more info? [19:16] We are requesting support for the obligatory Ubuntu demo and hand out of free software to the public who will be attending combined Open Street Initiative and 100 things in 1 Day event. [19:17] https://www.piratepad.ca/p/obshack [19:17] and for those who have facebook, https://www.facebook.com/events/474257305987287/?fref=ts [19:17] that piratepad link has plenty of detail [19:18] cool [19:18] This sounds pretty amazing [19:18] Maaz, agreed OBS HackFest and Robot Derby 25 May [19:18] Agreed: OBS HackFest and Robot Derby 25 May [19:19] adding items for the minutes... [19:19] anyone think of going? [19:19] I am too far away at the moment... [19:20] VENUE: Gandalfs, Observatory for that Metal Flava [19:20] where is that? [19:21] Observatory [19:21] lol [19:21] Cape Town [19:21] south of Cape town [19:22] Indeed [19:22] kbmonkey: I'm thinking of going [19:22] I certainly would if I was in Cape Town! [19:23] ah [19:23] Ah new item: release parties [19:23] some of us still have to have one [19:23] better to plan that when you have the dvds [19:24] or lotsa data [19:24] well if one person has the iso we can make copies [19:24] I' [19:24] I am to blame for kzn not having organized one [19:25] ha me2 [19:25] weekends have been taken up by family events, May is our party month I think [19:25] not much movement on the list [19:26] so I will try get something going. I know William tried to organize [19:26] Maaz, agreed KZN 14.04 Release party organization [19:26] Agreed: KZN 14.04 Release party organization [19:27] any other regions thinking about it? [19:28] someone else also mentioned freedom toaster the other day [19:28] reminds me of those days when we had lots of them around [19:28] perhaps we should try to get more involved again [19:28] (a couple of minutes left on the meeting clock) [19:28] is there something like BUE (Black Ubuntu Empowerment) in SA ? [19:29] you know inetpro maybe a usb toaster? [19:29] kbmonkey: what about my item? [19:29] there are more usb's around than blank cd's [19:29] we still getting to that superfly [19:29] mkay [19:30] meeting is progressing slowly tonight... [19:30] sorry, was just waiting for other release party interests [19:30] I guess there is none [19:30] usb's are expensive [19:30] * inetpro also has a terrible lag [19:30] we got a larger agenda than usual superfly [19:30] Golynx but you can use them over and over [19:31] Golynx, I am not sure about BUE. Whether it applies to FOSS systems is a good question, because equality is already ensured by default [19:31] Kilos right, but for single OS distribution wh will cough up that kinda cash [19:32] who* [19:32] Maaz, topic Minetest [19:32] Current Topic: Minetest [19:32] the toaster just puts the os on the stick [19:32] yay! [19:32] kbmonkey yeah thats true [19:32] each person brings their own [19:32] * superfly grabs the limelight :-P [19:33] anyone else here play Minetest or Minecraft? [19:33] Golynx, it will be a temporary thing then they can reclaim their usb, good point though [19:33] superfly, No but I may be curious. Does it require a low latency connection ? [19:33] * JabberwockyA19 googles minetest [19:33] I'm not sure. the rendering is all done client side [19:34] minetest runs as singleplayer locally [19:34] but I'm running a server [19:34] I mean it is more an exploratory type game, and not one where quick reactions win? [19:34] if anyone is interested in playing on my server, just ping me and I'll send you the address [19:34] kbmonkey: it's like lego [19:34] Awesome [19:35] okay then I think I would like to try :) [19:35] it's in the repos [19:35] apt-get install minetest [19:35] http://wiki.minetest.net/How_to_build_your_first_house [19:35] that's the basics of ir [19:35] *it [19:35] the wiki has more information [19:35] I have family visiting from overseas tomorrow for a week, so may only be able to game after that [19:35] or you can just ask me [19:36] * kbmonkey bookmarks link [19:36] * superfly is done now [19:36] ai [19:36] Maaz, idea Minetest server run by superfly [19:36] Idea recorded: Minetest server run by superfly [19:36] recorded if anyone needs to know who to contact [19:37] I want to build a giant Tux :) [19:37] Right, I believe that is our agenda done! === Golynx_ is now known as Golynx [19:37] Maaz, topic Questions [19:37] Current Topic: Questions [19:37] bushtech something is working [19:37] any questions? [19:38] superfly my son plays at home [19:39] has anyone played starbound? [19:39] Maaz, topic Elect chair for next meeting [19:39] Current Topic: Elect chair for next meeting [19:39] before we get game crazy... [19:39] * Kilos votes for kbmonkey [19:39] * kbmonkey waves a banana in the air [19:39] +1 for kbmonkey [19:39] kbmonkey +1 [19:39] ty kbmonkey nice job tonight [19:40] kbmonkey 1+ [19:40] kbmonkey +1 [19:40] Maaz, agreed kbmonkey to chair next meeting [19:40] Agreed: kbmonkey to chair next meeting [19:40] excellent. oh wehn is the next meeting.. hmmm [19:40] 26th May [19:41] nuvolari: why so quiet? [19:41] err, 27th - Tuesdays. almost forgot [19:41] kbmonkey: yep, 27th [19:41] Maaz, agreed Next meeting on the 27th May 2014 [19:41] Agreed: Next meeting on the 27th May 2014 [19:42] Maaz, topic Closing [19:42] Current Topic: Closing [19:42] thanks kbmonkey [19:42] Right that is it folks! I guess we got tired near the second half [19:42] whoot [19:42] I award a banana sticker to everyone who was here tonight! [19:42] hehe [19:43] just now we call you kbnana [19:43] Maaz, end meeting [19:43] Meeting Ended [19:43] Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2014-04-29-18-31-50.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2014-04-29-18-31-50.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2014-04-29-18-31-50.html [19:44] Ah now I will create the next meeting detail and try make a summary for the list [19:44] superfly minetest details? ping [19:45] im afk! cya kbmonkey, #ubuntu-za members [19:45] ciao Vince-0 thanks for coming! [19:45] kbmonkey: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/783/detail/ [19:46] Excellent pro [19:46] we just need to populate the info again [19:46] ditto superfly ill ry too pleas [19:46] e [19:46] would be nice if we could just copy and paste [19:46] ai! [19:47] Ill pop some items in [19:47] this loco site is slow [19:48] terrible [19:49] and my connection is not at it's best this evening [19:49] Kilos, I put my modem on the window sill it gets 3g, it runs out of battery like now, I take it down to charge and drops to 0.5g [19:49] ai! [19:50] move the charger closer [19:50] rather take the power up [19:51] what modems use external chargers [19:52] Kilos: my router does [19:52] oh them things ya [19:54] this agenda editor is not so nice [19:55] I wish it was markdown [19:55] kbmonkey: exactly [19:56] need lot's of patience [19:59] * Kilos needs to sleep [19:59] i am off to bed, long day catching up with me, good night all [19:59] night all. sleep tight [20:00] night Kilos [20:00] night magespawn === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-za to: Ubuntu South Africa http://ubuntu-za.org || MList: http://bit.ly/MCOujZ || PBin: http://slexy.org/ || Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com || Next Meeting: Tue, 27 May 20:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/1rL9Y59 || Twitter: https://twitter.com/ubuntuza [20:11] kbmonkey: have you given up for now? [20:16] inetpro, no I just lost connectivity for a while [20:17] * inetpro filling in from the back [20:17] was writing up a meeting summary meanwhile [20:18] ok I'll add and you can modify as needed... hope we don't cause a clash [20:19] more is better, right ;) [20:20] I already added things in the wrong place but it is a pain to fix [20:22] no worries, we have enough time to fix before the next meeting [20:22] superfly, would you like me to mention on the list of your Minetest server? [20:22] writing up a meeting summary of agreed items and ideas [20:23] nothing more than I have a server, and to contact me if you'd like to join. [20:23] great. [20:23] kbmonkey: it's very open at the moment, I have resisted closing it, so I'm a bit wary of a ton of people I don't know joining [20:24] kbmonkey: yikes! How do I delete? [20:24] can you make it unlisted/invite only? [20:24] and how did you get a bigger font there? [20:24] hahaha, duplicates! [20:24] kbmonkey: I can put a password on it [20:25] inetpro, I prefixed a line with # like one dos in markdown [20:25] did not realize it would do that [20:25] interesting [20:25] cool superfly, no point putting a password in the email so Ill let you hand it out on contact [20:26] maybe we just need to learn the syntax... anyway I'm stepping off now... need some sleep [20:26] ...if you put a password that is [20:26] sleep sounds so nice [20:26] kbmonkey: I'll see how it goes. if I suddenly have a surge of players, I might password-protect it [20:27] kbmonkey: maybe we should just do like California http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-california/782/detail/ [20:29] you're kidding me. That is a much better idea! [20:30] or like the Arizona LoCo Team http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-arizona/762/detail/ [20:30] will make editing and ordering much easier [20:30] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam [20:31] just an idea [20:31] I know maia will kill me for saying that, again [20:31] but we have meetings on the wiki from previous years, so why not [20:32] I get it that some people get intimidated by markup language [20:33] It's just really tricky to use that agenda interface. You dont need markup, just a list will do. [20:33] that was before the loco portal [20:33] * inetpro agress [20:33] agrees as well [20:34] anyway, something to think about [20:34] good night [20:34] nite inetpro [20:34] chat again! [20:37] eish, ubuntu wiki does not want to load the login page. strange.