[05:38] <nuvolari> o/ aloha
[06:04] <Kilos> hi jabberwocky93  Spekko  inetpro  and other lurkers
[06:13] <Spekko> more Kilos
[06:17] <jabberwocky93> hi Kilos, morning all!
[06:28] <nuvolari> lo oom Kilos 
[06:28] <Kilos> lo nuvolari  gaanit?
[06:29] <Kilos> jy is so skaars ons begin dink om die mafia na jou te stuur
[06:32] <Kilos> jy baie stout/stoud
[06:32] <Kilos> daai ding
[06:34] <Kilos> haha hi bushtech  rev them some more
[06:37] <inetpro> hi everyone
[06:37] <inetpro> and good morning Kilos
[06:37] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[06:46] <Kilos> hi Private_User  
[06:46] <Kilos> oops sorry inetpro  didnt see you tweeted the meet already
[06:49] <Kilos> morning ThatGraemeGuy  
[06:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings :-)
[07:27] <Kilos> hi Golynx  
[07:27] <charl_> good morning
[07:27] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[07:27]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[07:27] <Kilos> hi charl_  
[07:28] <Golynx> hi Kilos
[07:28] <Golynx> hi charl_
[07:28] <inetpro> Kilos: np
[07:30] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[07:30] <charl_> hi Golynx 
[07:30] <charl_> hi inetpro 
[07:30] <charl_> how's it going
[07:31] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[07:31] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[07:31] <Maaz> charl_: No problem
[07:41] <Kilos> hi Vince-0  
[07:41] <Kilos> meeting tonight hey!
[07:42] <Kilos> whats happened to smileyborg
[07:45] <Kilos> hi superfly  
[07:46] <Vince-0> Haai
[07:46] <Kilos> that quassel thing cheats, 
[07:59] <Vince-0> yaar
[08:00] <Vince-0> I haven't seen Smiles for a while
[08:04] <Golynx> _o/ Vince-0
[08:04] <Vince-0> haai
[08:04] <Golynx> whats a quassel
[08:18] <Kilos> quassel is an irc client
[08:19] <Kilos> one you can bounce with
[08:20] <Golynx> oh ping pong
[08:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can bounce with any client o_O
[08:22] <Golynx> just kidding :D
[08:22] <Golynx> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[08:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo :)
[08:25] <Kilos> oh
[09:21] <charl_> zbnc is also populair
[09:44] <Kilos> hi theblazehen  
[09:45] <theblazehen> hi Kilos 
[09:47] <kbmonkey> hi Kilos yes I replied
[09:47] <kbmonkey> I was away remember lol
[09:47] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey  
[09:47] <Kilos> to what?
[09:48] <kbmonkey> I dunno to what I just got away log the pro asking you Kilos if I replied ;0
[09:48] <Kilos> as long as you are here tonight and drag nuvo with you all good
[09:48] <Kilos> oh ya i told him you did
[09:48] <kbmonkey> excellent!
[09:49] <kbmonkey> you the man Kilos 
[09:49] <Kilos> ai!
[09:50] <Kilos> did i tell you that 14.04 sees the d-link modem
[09:50]  * Kilos happy
[09:53] <kbmonkey> oh good show
[09:53] <kbmonkey> where did you get 14.04 from?
[09:54] <kbmonkey> I will be so blerrie tired after work today. half way there
[09:55] <Kilos> got it 2 weeks early with the daily build
[09:55] <Kilos> then got 14.04 with the release
[09:55] <Kilos> both very lekker
[09:55] <Kilos> kde i mean the secong one
[09:56] <Kilos> ai! /secong/second
[10:01] <Kilos> hi Rynomster  meeting tonight hey
[10:06] <magespawn> good day
[10:06] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[10:06] <magespawn> on the right day for the meeting just a couple of hours early
[10:09] <Kilos> rofl
[10:28] <charl_> hi magespawn 
[10:28] <charl_> you been scarce
[10:28] <charl_> how's it going with the wifi and the asterisk
[10:30] <charl_> here is one for people with slow internet http://levamedlagg.se/
[10:30] <charl_> how extremely disturbing lag is
[10:31] <magespawn> hi charl_ 
[10:32] <magespawn> wifi is good and i am getting a handle on asterisk
[10:32] <charl_> very nice
[10:56] <Kilos> we need one of those nudge tools in other im goodies to remind rynmster he has irc as well
[11:02] <Kilos> what do you call those popups that show youve moved to another workspace on kde
[11:02] <Kilos> i want to disable them
[11:06] <charl_> hmmm just tried pass for the first time but am not impressed
[11:06] <charl_> a good concept but it isn't nearly a replacement for keepass2
[11:32] <Vince-0> magespawn, Asterisk help <here if you need it
[11:38] <magespawn> Vince-0, you know asterisk?
[11:43] <Vince-0> I do, in production since 2008
[11:49] <Vince-0> wat maak jy daar? I do vicidial lately - yawn
[11:50] <Vince-0> I actually prefer Freeswitch from a dev point of view
[12:03] <magespawn> i have just taken over a couple of running systems, one at the head office and another two at two of the hotels
[12:04] <Vince-0> freepbx? I'd prefer that for pbxy things
[12:09] <Kilos> need to move modem to other pc. wbb be good
[12:09] <Kilos> Maaz  watch them
[12:09] <Maaz> OK Kilos I'll keep an eye on them for you
[12:12] <magespawn> vanilla asterisk
[12:23] <Vince-0> magespawn, ew, might be worth while looking at freepbx - it covers all pbx use cases I've seen.
[12:23] <Vince-0> can go under the hood to get at vanilla asterisk
[12:30] <magespawn> i was having a look at the various options, this is just what i inherited
[12:32] <magespawn> besides  i figure that if i can learn asterisk on it own the other should be straight froward
[12:33] <magespawn> i might have to set up some sort of test machine to see which works best here
[12:39] <Vince-0> sure, I'm guessing there's a bunch of 3rd party apps that work with the existing systems - I think you mentioned bookings etc
[12:39] <Vince-0> just get the FreePBX ISO , its the bizniz
[12:40] <Vince-0> magespawn, disconnected?
[13:45] <magespawn_> later all. got to go out on the road, thanks for the head up Vince-0 
[14:14] <Vince-0> !
[14:16] <Kilos> im back
[14:27] <inetpro> kbmonkey: just check that agenda before our meeting
[14:27] <inetpro> I'm not sure those events are all valid
[14:28] <inetpro> like that UDS, think it was in March and the next one can't be in May already
[14:32] <inetpro> everyone else who still knows about any other events please let us know so we update the agenda already 
[14:32] <inetpro> or any other topics 
[14:34] <inetpro> wb Xethron
[14:37] <inetpro> oh and please tell me if you know the syntax to create clickable links in the loco team portal
[14:37] <inetpro> wish they would fall back to a wiki site for that
[14:44] <Xethron> haha
[14:44] <Xethron> Heya guys
[14:44] <Xethron> Is ther a place you can buy Ubuntu Laptops in SA?
[14:45] <Kilos> hi Xethron  
[14:46] <Kilos> wassup Xethron  did you blow yours?
[14:47] <Xethron> I can't spend all day every day debugging a problem that can't be found
[14:47] <Xethron> I need a laptop that works with Linux
[14:47] <Xethron> Thats been built for Linux and that I can take back if it doesn't work with Linux
[14:48] <Kilos> oh my
[14:48] <Kilos> read that
[14:48] <Kilos> http://fullcirclemagazine.org/issue-84/
[14:49] <Kilos> there is a section on putting ubuntu onto a mac
[14:51] <Xethron> lol
[14:51] <Xethron> I don't have a mac :P
[14:51] <Xethron> And if I did, I'd prob run OSX on it
[14:51] <Xethron> :P
[14:52] <Kilos> oh what probs are you having then
[14:52] <Kilos> i get mixed up with who has what
[14:53] <Kilos> there was lots in the lists about local pcs with linux preinstalled about a year ago but i dont remember what the outcome was
[14:53] <Kilos> i think there was a place or 2 that would do it
[14:54] <Kilos> start with what lappy you have and then give the probs
[15:04] <theblazehen> Kilos: I'd rather start with no OS on the machine, than linux, really
[15:04] <Kilos> yeah theblazehen  but where do you buy such a lappy
[15:05] <theblazehen> Kilos: not sure, shouldnt be TOO hard to find though
[15:05] <theblazehen> heh, DOS doesn't use much RAM.. 147 KB used of 16 GB :D
[15:05] <Kilos> see if you can find one
[15:06] <theblazehen> mecerpc.co.za
[15:07] <Kilos> Xethron  check out mecerpc.co.za
[15:08] <Xethron> tx
[15:09] <Xethron> theblazehen: its just that my current laptop keeps crashing
[15:09] <Xethron> so need something that supports Ubuntu
[15:10] <nuvolari> o/ see you all later
[15:10] <nuvolari> for the meeting
[15:11] <Kilos> ok nuvolari  
[15:13] <inetpro> didn't someone say that system76 would be available locally at some point?
[15:15] <inetpro> https://www.system76.com/home/shippinginformation/
[15:51] <Kilos> nice find inetpro  
[15:52] <Kilos> ho do their prices compare
[15:52] <Kilos> how also
[16:36] <Kilos> hi sf55  welcome to ubuntu-za
[16:37] <Kilos> oh my
[16:38] <JabberwockyA19> hi Kilos
[16:38] <Kilos> hi JabberwockyA19  
[16:38] <Kilos> only 2 hours to wait for the meeting to start
[16:40] <JabberwockyA19> not studying tonight, wil be here the meeting :)
[16:40] <Kilos> cool
[16:41] <theblazehen> When is meeting starting? 
[16:41] <theblazehen> Kilos: ^
[16:41]  * JabberwockyA19 tries to compile cgminer in the meanwhile
[16:41] <Kilos> 20.30
[16:41] <theblazehen> Kilos: kk, ty
[16:42] <Kilos> np
[16:42] <theblazehen> JabberwockyA19: litecoin?
[16:42] <theblazehen> JabberwockyA19: or other scrypt?
[16:42] <theblazehen> On linux?
[16:43] <theblazehen> JabberwockyA19: If you need help I have 9 GPU's all mining on linux, feel free to /msg me
[16:48] <JabberwockyA19> theblazehen: thanks, I've recently joined the waffle pool. I can't use cgminer > 3.7.x and I need to download the dev dependencies. The problem I have is I've capped my internet twice this month already.
[16:49] <theblazehen> JabberwockyA19: I'd recommend sgminer, allows more optimisation, and with zabbix OCL kernel
[16:49] <theblazehen> Also look at ipominer.com and nicehash.com, as well as poolpicker.eu
[16:50] <JabberwockyA19> still very new to mining in general, I managed to get ~750Mh/s in windows on my 280x
[16:50] <theblazehen> JabberwockyA19: yeah, 760 here
[16:50] <theblazehen> and KH/s *
[16:50] <JabberwockyA19> heh yeah KH*
[16:50] <theblazehen> JabberwockyA19: unless you forgot to use --scrypt?
[16:50] <theblazehen> ok
[16:51] <theblazehen> JabberwockyA19: How many cards?
[16:52] <JabberwockyA19> thanks, i'll check those out for sure!
[17:04] <JabberwockyA19> theblazehen: uhm 1, hehe
[17:04] <Golynx> hi theblazehen, JabberwockyA19
[17:04] <theblazehen> JabberwockyA19: heh, ok. 
[17:04] <JabberwockyA19> my brother is running x2 270's getting 900-1000KH/s
[17:04] <theblazehen> hey Golynx 
[17:05] <theblazehen> JabberwockyA19: Can you get him to share his config? Thanks
[17:06] <JabberwockyA19> sure, I think I've got it here somewhere...
[17:12] <JabberwockyA19> theblazehen: not very organised, but here it is http://codeshare.io/b95DF
[17:13] <JabberwockyA19> using '-' infront of variables that still needs more tuning
[17:14] <theblazehen> JabberwockyA19: ty
[17:15] <JabberwockyA19> np
[17:35] <spekko_> AWE!!
[17:35] <Kilos> hi spekko_  
[17:35] <spekko_> Gelagtes
[17:35] <spekko_> hello Kilos
[17:36] <theblazehen> hi spekko_ 
[17:36]  * JabberwockyA19 tricked spekko_ into joining!
[17:36] <spekko_> nickserve se wat !?
[17:36] <Kilos> hey you clever peeps wont a continuous ping stop  disconnections
[17:37] <JabberwockyA19> Kilos: it helps for me
[17:37] <Kilos> ya spekko_  meeting times everyone must attend or your pc will crash
[17:37] <spekko_> or, alternatively we could continue to spam the channel
[17:37] <spekko_> ROFL!
[17:38] <Kilos> JabberwockyA19  will you help bush set it up there by him
[17:38] <Golynx> hi Spekko
[17:38] <Kilos> spekko_  we have contacts in the local mafia to sort spammers out
[17:38] <kbmonkey> inetpro, roger that
[17:39] <Kilos> bushtech  you here now
[17:39] <Kilos> ??
[17:39] <Spekko> hi Golynx
[17:39] <bushtech> Hope so Having Vodacom problems again
[17:39] <theblazehen> Kilos: we do?
[17:40] <theblazehen> Yay!
[17:40] <Kilos> bushtech  try a continuous ping
[17:40] <Kilos> JabberwockyA19  tell him how
[17:40] <Kilos> please
[17:40] <bushtech> yes please
[17:41] <Kilos> oh my there he goes
[17:42] <bushtech> heh
[17:42] <Kilos> kbmonkey  evening, help man
[17:42] <kbmonkey> hi Kilos 
[17:42] <Spekko> Luik my Jabberwocky se cap is uit
[17:42] <kbmonkey> net very slow. trying to log in to loco
[17:42] <Kilos> kbmonkey  how you set a continuous ping
[17:43] <Golynx> hi kbmonkey sir
[17:43] <Spekko> continues ping on irc ?
[17:43] <Kilos> Golynx  dvd will leave here in the coming week
[17:43] <kbmonkey> hi Golynx , Kilos 
[17:43] <Spekko> *continuous
[17:43] <Golynx> Kilos ty :)
[17:44] <Kilos> no a ping to try keep voda online
[17:44] <kbmonkey> awesome
[17:44] <JabberwockyA19> murphy, that wasn't funny!
[17:45] <Kilos> JabberwockyA19  wb tell bushtech  quick how to set up a continous ping there
[17:45] <JabberwockyA19> just as I answer Kilos about pinging to keep the connection open
[17:45] <Kilos> lol
[17:45] <kbmonkey> Kilos, you mean keepalive?
[17:45] <JabberwockyA19> I just use a normal 'ping www.google.com'
[17:45] <Kilos> ya like that
[17:46] <nuvolari> bah! :(
[17:46] <Kilos> hi nuvolari  
[17:46] <nuvolari> why won't my do-dist-upgrade show 14.04?
[17:46] <nuvolari> hallo oom Kilos :)
[17:46] <nuvolari> gaan dit goed oom?
[17:46] <Kilos> ya JabberwockyA19  but how do you make it comtinous
[17:46] <Kilos> redelik dankie en self nuvolari  ?
[17:46] <JabberwockyA19> if you're on ubuntu just like that
[17:46] <kbmonkey> ping goes on forever by default
[17:47] <nuvolari> oh hi apie :D
[17:47] <Golynx> Kilos 'Star Wars: Episode VII' Cast Announced :) http://mashable.com/2014/04/29/star-wars-episode-vii-cast-announced/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link
[17:47] <nuvolari> hello JabberwockyA19 
[17:47] <kbmonkey> he he hi nuvo
[17:47] <nuvolari> lo Golynx 
[17:47] <Golynx> hi nuvolari
[17:47] <JabberwockyA19> naand nuvolari
[17:47] <Kilos> there you got bushtech  ping www.google.com in a terminal
[17:47]  * nuvolari wonder of hy 'n sessie dota moet inwerk veer die meeting
[17:47] <nuvolari> *voor
[17:48] <JabberwockyA19> ability draft sommer teen bots 20min np
[17:48] <theblazehen> nuvolari: Good game?
[17:48] <magespawn> good evening
[17:48] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[17:48] <JabberwockyA19> hi magespawn
[17:48] <theblazehen> Now to choose between starting DOTA or doing my school prject tomorrow...
[17:48] <theblazehen> hi magespawn 
[17:48] <kbmonkey> hi magespawn 
[17:48] <JabberwockyA19> theblazehen: which subject?
[17:49] <Golynx> hi magespawn
[17:49] <theblazehen> JabberwockyA19: Physical Science
[17:49] <theblazehen> hi kbmonkey 
[17:49] <Kilos> nuvolari  we gonna pull you up in front of the committee
[17:50] <theblazehen> Kilos: He do something bad? ;
[17:50] <Squirm> woo
[17:50] <theblazehen> )
[17:50] <Squirm> finally home
[17:50] <nuvolari> theblazehen: it's ok, I'm not a big gamer
[17:50] <kbmonkey> yar send some of that bandwidth to us!
[17:50] <nuvolari> that makes a little sense
[17:50] <nuvolari> so I play it :P
[17:50] <Kilos> ya he has been away from here for too long
[17:50] <bushtech> Thanks JabberwockyA 19, Kilos
[17:51] <Kilos> hope it works bushtech  
[17:51] <nuvolari> hoekom oom Kilos ? :( ek is nie stout nie
[17:51] <theblazehen> kbmonkey: "yar send some of that bandwidth to us!" Sure thing! How many gbps of DDOS you want? :)
[17:51] <Kilos> jaja jy is, hoeveel tyd het jy hier spandeer in die laaste twee maande
[17:51] <kbmonkey> hy spot maar net
[17:52] <Kilos> hi captine  
[17:52] <captine> hi there
[17:52] <nuvolari> dota it will be
[17:53] <nuvolari> around 30 minutes
[17:53] <magespawn> DOTA ?
[17:54] <theblazehen> magespawn: defense of the ancients IIRC
[17:54] <magespawn> right
[17:54] <kbmonkey> I play this game called PYTHON
[17:54] <Squirm> yes
[17:54] <kbmonkey> aka snake
[17:54] <theblazehen> kbmonkey: the ultimate puzzle game?
[17:54] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[17:54] <theblazehen> I'm actually doing that right now
[17:54] <kbmonkey> yes theblazehen he he
[17:54] <magespawn> me thinks the answer should be the other one then
[17:54] <kbmonkey> me too
[17:55] <theblazehen> kbmonkey: At least vim looks good: http://imgur.com/pnsFI5q
[17:56] <kbmonkey> theblazehen, you use bpython or ipython?
[17:56] <theblazehen> kbmonkey: ipython
[17:57] <kbmonkey> good stuff
[17:58] <JabberwockyA19> skype! skype!
[17:58] <kbmonkey> looks good theblazehen 
[18:01] <magespawn> what is ipython now?
[18:01] <theblazehen> kbmonkey: ty :)
[18:02] <theblazehen> magespawn: better python interpreter
[18:02] <Kilos> kbmonkey  tell me more about keepalive
[18:02] <magespawn> theblazehen, better than?
[18:02] <Kilos> the ping didnt help bush
[18:02] <theblazehen> magespawn: the default python interpreter
[18:03] <kbmonkey> magespawn, an interactive interpreter 
[18:03] <theblazehen> ipython2 > python2
[18:03] <kbmonkey> hmm I do not see any email regarding the DVD's from maia. does anyone know if she received the DVD's? I thought it was mentioned earlier
[18:03] <Kilos> she will be here tonight
[18:04] <kbmonkey> Kilos, I do not know of this ping fix. but irc clients have keepalive built-in mostly
[18:04] <kbmonkey> excellent thanks Kilos 
[18:04] <Kilos> thats if she doesnt forget
[18:04] <Kilos> hehe
[18:04] <kbmonkey> I adding to agenda
[18:05] <magespawn> i thought there was something on the list regarding the discs
[18:05] <kbmonkey> the lists say we still waiting...
[18:05] <Kilos> they havent arrived yet as far as i know
[18:06] <magespawn> i am sure maia will let us all know
[18:06] <kbmonkey> indeed :)
[18:06] <Kilos> yip she will
[18:06] <Kilos> i go make coffee
[18:06] <kbmonkey> listening to Kraftwerk's Computer World
[18:11] <Kilos> oi bushtech  it didnt work
[18:12] <Kilos> he is on quassel kbmonkey  is there some special setting for that thing
[18:12] <bushtech> yeh, doesn't help w/ a stuffed tower
[18:12] <Kilos> get twitter man
[18:12] <Kilos> are you on kubuntu?
[18:13] <kbmonkey> sorry I am not familiar with quassel
[18:13] <kbmonkey> is that a client or a service?
[18:13] <Kilos> inetpro  is there a stayalive keepalive setting in quassel
[18:13] <bushtech> this quassel connection is on a windoze machine :(
[18:13] <kbmonkey> and is this on dsl or 3g broadband bushtech ?
[18:13] <Kilos> client
[18:13] <JabberwockyA19> it's actually both
[18:13] <bushtech> 3G
[18:14] <Kilos> 3g via router
[18:14] <kbmonkey> my 3g does the same when I use a local client :(
[18:14] <JabberwockyA19> quassel operates on a core (bouncer) and has a frontend gui that connects to it
[18:14] <kbmonkey> that is why I use a shell account to avoid disconnects
[18:14] <kbmonkey> ah thanks JabberwockyA19 
[18:15] <JabberwockyA19> I have never used the core as a standalone thought
[18:15] <JabberwockyA19> *though
[18:15] <kbmonkey> so then it is quassel's side
[18:15] <Kilos> magespawn  knows about quassel
[18:16] <Kilos> bushtech  try konversation
[18:16] <magespawn> maybe setup a ping 
[18:17] <magespawn> that might keep it going.
[18:17] <Kilos> tell him how magespawn  
[18:17] <bushtech> tried the ping
[18:17] <Kilos> ping from cli didnt work
[18:17] <bushtech> problem is the tower
[18:17] <magespawn> but the cell company might just disconnect you based on amount of time online
[18:18] <Kilos> try pinging vodacom.co.za
[18:18] <Kilos> let it hassle them
[18:18] <bushtech> don't normally have this problem
[18:19] <inetpro> to test whether ping will keep you alive I would do the following: ping -i10 -s0 -c35 8.8.8.8
[18:20] <inetpro> that would ping the google dns service every 10 seconds for 5 minutes
[18:20] <inetpro> with a minimal amount of data
[18:21] <inetpro> and if it works I would increase the increment until a maximum possible value
[18:22] <inetpro> man ping
[18:22] <inetpro> obviously if that doesn't work you're in trouble
[18:23] <inetpro> try a hard reset of the router/modem
[18:23] <bushtech> will give it a try. Thanks inetpro
[18:23] <bushtech> wearing out the power plug on the router
[18:23] <Kilos> bushtech  mail me all your details and ill tweet the vodacom111 guy for you tomorrow
[18:24] <Kilos> tower numbers area etc
[18:24] <bushtech> I have a query going with them currently
[18:24] <magespawn> back again
[18:24] <Kilos> wb magespawn  
[18:24] <magespawn> looks like the wifi here needs some work
[18:24] <Kilos> where you went
[18:24] <inetpro> actually mtr is much more intuitive and useful
[18:25] <Kilos> ai! again
[18:25] <inetpro> mtr -i10 -s0 8.8.8.8
[18:25] <bushtech> If it doesn't come right I'll try your way
[18:25] <Kilos> just dont leave them to do it their way rev them daily
[18:26] <magespawn> inetpro have you ever got strange results with mtr?
[18:26] <magespawn> wifi dropped me Kilos, now on tablet mifi
[18:26] <inetpro> magespawn: oh yes mtr is not so trustworthy as it should be
[18:26] <Kilos> oi
[18:26] <inetpro> reporting more packet losses than a ping
[18:27] <theblazehen> inetpro: mtr +1
[18:27] <magespawn> ahh well, then at least it is not just me
[18:27] <Kilos> dunno how you peeps get anything done with such bad connections
[18:28] <inetpro> magespawn: could be you need to read the man page and set some extra options
[18:28] <magespawn> that is always a possibility
[18:28] <Kilos> eish you and man
[18:29]  * magespawn only reads man pages when dealing with toasters they can be mean
[18:29] <Kilos> inetpro  man doesnt explain as well as you do
[18:29] <inetpro> I haven't researched the issue at all, if you can call it an issue
 inetpro  man doesnt explain as well as you do -> inetpro what a man
[18:30] <inetpro> ICMP traffic is low priority 
[18:30] <kbmonkey> before the internet all we had was man :]
[18:30] <Kilos> his only hope will be to fight voda
[18:30] <superfly> ohi
[18:30] <kbmonkey> ahoi
[18:30] <Kilos> ohi superfly  
[18:30] <kbmonkey> ahoy*
[18:30] <kbmonkey> just in time
[18:30] <JabberwockyA19> ooooi superfly
[18:30]  * superfly also uses Quassel
[18:30] <kbmonkey> we shall start me thinks
[18:31] <Kilos> ya
[18:31] <kbmonkey> excellent
[18:31]  * superfly will try to keep up, got a few things on the go this evening
[18:31] <nuvolari> aloha
[18:31] <Kilos> lo nuvolari  welcome to ubuntu-za
[18:31] <kbmonkey> Maaz, start meeting about Monthly IRC Meeting for April 2014
[18:31]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[18:31] <inetpro> Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer
[18:31] <Maaz> inetpro: Righto
[18:32] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Welcoming and Introduction
[18:32] <Maaz> Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction
[18:32] <Kilos> Maaz  I am Miles Sharpe
[18:32] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[18:32] <nuvolari> thank you thank you
[18:32]  * nuvolari bows
[18:32] <kbmonkey> Hello everybody, to the April 2014 edition of our monthly meetings!
[18:32] <nuvolari> Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt
[18:32] <Maaz> nuvolari: Alrighty
[18:32] <superfly> Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman
[18:32] <Maaz> superfly: Alrighty
[18:32] <magespawn> Maaz I am Greg Eames
[18:32] <Maaz> magespawn: Alrighty
[18:32] <Kilos> bushtech  tell the bot who you are
[18:33] <JabberwockyA19> Maaz: I am Willem Dreyer
[18:33] <Maaz> JabberwockyA19: Okay
[18:33] <bushtech> Maaz: I am Dries Laubscher
[18:33] <Maaz> bushtech: Righto
[18:33] <Golynx> Maaz: I am Gerrit Pas
[18:33] <Maaz> Golynx: Alrighty
[18:33] <kbmonkey> Please tell Maaz your name "maaz I am <your name>"
[18:33] <kbmonkey> Maaz, I am Wesley Werner
[18:33] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Yessir
[18:33] <Kilos> Spekko  ^^
[18:33] <kbmonkey> Anyone is welcome to join in later during the meeting too
[18:34] <captine> maaz I am Bradley Putzier
[18:34] <Maaz> captine: Alrighty
[18:34] <inetpro> who is here for the first time?
[18:34] <kbmonkey> newcomers get a free banana
[18:34] <Kilos> bushtech  and spekko
[18:34] <Kilos> haha
[18:35]  * kbmonkey places a silver tray full of bananas on the table
[18:35] <inetpro> newcomers just stick up your hand like this o/
[18:35] <Vince-0> Maaz: I am Vincent Swart
[18:35] <Maaz> Vince-0: Done
[18:35] <Kilos> hi Vince-0  
[18:35] <Vince-0> G'd eve
[18:35] <kbmonkey> Ah yes, the agenda for tonights meeting can be seen at http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/781/detail/
[18:36] <nuvolari> o/
[18:36] <inetpro> lol
[18:36] <kbmonkey> \0
[18:36] <nuvolari> ø
[18:36] <nuvolari> ^ compact format
[18:36] <Kilos> hehe
[18:37] <kbmonkey> Right, so for those who are unfamiliar (or have amnesia), we just talk our way through a few points. 
[18:37] <kbmonkey> Oh and welcome again!
[18:37] <inetpro> this meeting should actually have happened last week... funny that nobody noticed
[18:38] <Spekko> hmm
[18:38] <kbmonkey> indeed inetpro! I see the minutes says it was planned for the 22nd
[18:38] <Spekko> someone called ?
[18:38] <kbmonkey> wonder what happened there
[18:38] <captine> i join when the meeting reminder shows up.. ;)
[18:38]  * Kilos goes to mail
[18:38] <superfly> kbmonkey: holidays
[18:38] <kbmonkey> ^ ah yes
[18:38] <inetpro> captine: sorry, guess that was my fault for not registering it on g+ soon enough 
[18:38] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Review previous minutes
[18:38] <Maaz> Current Topic: Review previous minutes
[18:39] <kbmonkey> So firstly I want to mention the success of the Randburg Ubuntu release party as posted on the mailing list
[18:39] <inetpro> glad that Kilos reminded us about the meeting ahead of today
[18:40] <inetpro> kbmonkey: you have pictures?
[18:40] <Kilos> there is one in the email
[18:40] <kbmonkey> About 16 people attended
[18:40] <kbmonkey> I do not inetpro, but the email on the list had a pic attached
[18:40] <inetpro> cool
[18:40] <captine> inetpro, all good.  the reminder came and here I am. :)
[18:41] <kbmonkey> I guess some may be posted on G+ but I cannot confirm that
[18:41] <captine> so sorry I missed the party.  Was really keen.  Just didnt make it
[18:41] <inetpro> maia will be happy if she can see something posted online
[18:41] <inetpro> Kilos: where is maia?
[18:41] <kbmonkey> Congrats to Marius for organizing that one
[18:42] <Kilos> im waiting for a mail reply inetpro  
[18:42] <superfly> oo, can I add something to the agenda?
[18:42] <Kilos> you okes need to work out a ping reminder on cellphones
[18:42] <inetpro> kbmonkey: sorry for the noise mr chairman
[18:42]  * inetpro keeps quiet 
[18:43] <Kilos> yes superfly  please do
[18:43] <kbmonkey> no worries :)
[18:44] <kbmonkey> Next up is just a thought to kep in mind Software Freedom Day on the 20th September
[18:44] <kbmonkey> hmm, this shoudl be in Events topic..
[18:44] <kbmonkey> and then we are waiting for the Ubuntu DVD's
[18:44] <kbmonkey> We will catch up with maia later with this one
[18:45] <inetpro> kbmonkey: let's stick it under events for next meeting and add info as it comes
[18:45] <kbmonkey> Agreed!
[18:46] <kbmonkey> moving on from previous minutes...
[18:46]  * inetpro still hates the fact that those links are not clickable in the agenda
[18:46] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Releases
[18:46] <Maaz> Current Topic: Releases
[18:47] <kbmonkey> so this is a new topic I like seeing
[18:48]  * inetpro has seen a lot of very positive reviews of Trusty Thar
[18:48] <Vince-0> speeking of software freedom day
[18:48] <Vince-0> I have the recording of RMS at UKZN hosted:
[18:48] <kbmonkey> I have been bad at new releases and would love somebody to mention something noteworthy
[18:49] <Kilos> it works
[18:49] <kbmonkey> Ah excellent Vince-0! do you have a link for us yet?
[18:49] <Vince-0> http://162.248.11.102/stallman_ukzn_20140906_960x540theora_128vorbis.mkv
[18:50] <Vince-0> its 387mb
[18:50] <Vince-0> I could probably make it smaller res
[18:50] <Vince-0> but it will play directly in chrome
[18:50] <inetpro> eish!
[18:50] <kbmonkey> ah I have some data, I will see if I can transcode it to ogg
[18:51] <kbmonkey> Vince-0, I will mention this in an email to the list after the meeting, alright with you?
[18:51] <inetpro> Vince-0: will it stay up on the link?
[18:51] <Vince-0> its ogg vorbis
[18:51] <Vince-0> from .mov
[18:51] <Vince-0> sure, go ahead - that link will be up for some time
[18:52] <inetpro> Vince-0: thanks
[18:52] <kbmonkey> oh it is ogg too, fair enought. from mov nogal? heh :)
[18:53] <captine> kbmonkey, I too have tons of data and a digitalocean droplet I could put it onto... if needed
[18:54] <kbmonkey> thanks captine I will shout if needed!
[18:54] <kbmonkey> so... releases. 
[18:54] <superfly> I can host it too
[18:54] <kbmonkey> Kilos, you are running 14.04 now, yes?
[18:54] <captine> running 14.04 on my mbp.  VERY stable.
[18:54] <Kilos> yessir
[18:54] <superfly> got plenty of bandwidth on one of my servers
[18:54] <nuvolari> sorry :-/ municipal accounts to sort out
[18:54] <Kilos> very happy
[18:54] <captine> 14.04 server on some VM's too... for messing wtih
[18:54] <inetpro> Vince-0: you don't perhaps have a blog posting linking to that video?
[18:55] <nuvolari> on the topic of 14.04, I can't seem to upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS :-/
[18:55] <kbmonkey> great superfly - so many great offers
[18:55] <nuvolari> unless I miss something
[18:55] <Vince-0> negative, I havn't posted much about it -
[18:55] <Kilos> apart from some seetings that need more work to set it is great
[18:55] <inetpro> np
[18:55] <Vince-0> still waiting on the uni to release the copyright but I have permission to share it
[18:56] <inetpro> cool
[18:57] <JabberwockyA19> I'm running 14.04 on my desktop with a new Radeon R9 gpu, open source and binary drivers working well, which is a first for me (coming from a nvidia prime background before)
[18:58] <kbmonkey> sorry I got some lag there
[18:58] <kbmonkey> okay logged into ubuntu-za.org fine but I get an error when creating content - 
[18:58] <superfly> I'm runing 14.04 Kubuntu at work, all good
[18:58] <superfly> kbmonkey: what error?
[18:59] <kbmonkey> It is great to hear such good feedback for 14.04 - think I should download a copy
[18:59]  * inetpro wants to upgrade some ubuntu server installations asap
[18:59] <Vince-0> major features? I read about all the juju stuffs
[19:01] <kbmonkey> superfly, http://pastebin.com/iBp6vSki
[19:01] <inetpro> Vince-0: there's no big changes that I am aware of
[19:01] <kbmonkey> anyway, wil look at posting the RMS talk on the blog
[19:02] <captine> i am trying to learn a bit of juju and docker.  very confusing for an accountant....
[19:02] <kbmonkey> well as I am aware they did not end up shipping Mir with 14.04 as intended
[19:02] <kbmonkey> the X display replacement
[19:02] <JabberwockyA19> I am glad they did not ship mir on the LTS
[19:02] <superfly> kbmonkey: ah yes, I need to update a module. shouldn't stop you from posting anything though
[19:03] <captine> correct.  can test it though.  esp when testing touch applications etc, as it is in the repos as only Mir sits on the touch device images... i think
[19:03] <kbmonkey> no worries superfly, thanks
[19:04] <kbmonkey> Utopic Unicorn? For real-real? Well I never...
[19:04] <inetpro> kbmonkey: yep
[19:04] <inetpro> that is no April fools joke
[19:04] <superfly> c'mon, you can't tell me you're suprised... after all the ones we've been through
[19:04] <superfly> hardy heron?
[19:05] <Kilos> hehe
[19:05] <inetpro> kbmonkey: see http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1363
[19:05] <kbmonkey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes
[19:05] <kbmonkey> True, and it is not as crazy as the RHEL codenames
[19:06] <Golynx> unicorns are for girls :p
[19:06] <inetpro> unconstrained dreams :-)
[19:06] <kbmonkey> exactly Golynx !
[19:07] <Kilos> no man he says so is chocolate
[19:07] <kbmonkey> well I have 2 GB to use so think I will grab a copy tonight and try it out...
[19:08] <Vince-0> (Here's a blog post link for RMS rec: http://durbanlinux.org.za/?p=292)
[19:09] <inetpro> Vince-0: well done! 
[19:09]  * inetpro will see to it that this link is added to the next agenda as part of the SFD event
[19:10] <kbmonkey> Maaz, agreed Mention posting about the RMS UKZN Talk
[19:10] <Maaz> Agreed: Mention posting about the RMS UKZN Talk
[19:10] <kbmonkey> thanks plenty Vince-0 !
[19:10] <Vince-0> k
[19:10] <kbmonkey> Shall we move to Events topic...
[19:11] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Events
[19:11] <Maaz> Current Topic: Events
[19:12] <kbmonkey> Right, Ubuntu developer summit (UDS) is on 11-13 March
[19:12] <kbmonkey> http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[19:12] <kbmonkey> it runs from 14h00 UTC - so that is 16h00 zulu time
[19:12] <captine> March?
[19:13] <superfly> not may?
[19:13] <kbmonkey> uuh... yeah
[19:13] <Kilos> lol
[19:13] <kbmonkey> the site says March... did this already happen?
[19:13] <kbmonkey> or is the site wrong? whoops
[19:14] <Kilos> message from maia
[19:14] <Kilos> Urk internet super dodgy struggling to get on.
[19:14] <inetpro> I know the last one was in March
[19:15] <kbmonkey> Okay the ubuntu site says UDS was March, so I guess this agenda item is wrong.
[19:15] <inetpro> next one can not be in May yet... so no detail of the next one yet... let's just move on
[19:15] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic OBS HackFest 25 May
[19:15] <Maaz> Current Topic: OBS HackFest 25 May
[19:16] <kbmonkey> This is a Robot Derby, Code Hack and Hacker Fair
[19:16] <inetpro> anyone else have more info?
[19:16] <kbmonkey> We are requesting support for the obligatory Ubuntu demo and hand out of free software to the public who will be attending combined Open Street Initiative and 100 things in 1 Day event.
[19:17] <kbmonkey> https://www.piratepad.ca/p/obshack 
[19:17] <kbmonkey> and for those who have facebook, https://www.facebook.com/events/474257305987287/?fref=ts
[19:17] <kbmonkey> that piratepad link has plenty of detail 
[19:18] <inetpro> cool
[19:18] <kbmonkey> This sounds pretty amazing
[19:18] <kbmonkey> Maaz, agreed OBS HackFest and Robot Derby 25 May
[19:18] <Maaz> Agreed: OBS HackFest and Robot Derby 25 May
[19:19] <kbmonkey> adding items for the minutes...
[19:19] <kbmonkey> anyone think of going? 
[19:19] <kbmonkey> I am too far away at the moment...
[19:20] <inetpro> VENUE: Gandalfs, Observatory for that Metal Flava
[19:20] <inetpro> where is that?
[19:21] <JabberwockyA19> Observatory
[19:21] <magespawn> lol
[19:21] <superfly> Cape Town
[19:21] <JabberwockyA19> south of Cape town
[19:22] <kbmonkey> Indeed
[19:22] <JabberwockyA19> kbmonkey: I'm thinking of going
[19:22] <kbmonkey> I certainly would if I was in Cape Town!
[19:23] <inetpro> ah
[19:23] <kbmonkey> Ah new item: release parties
[19:23] <kbmonkey> some of us still have to have one
[19:23] <Kilos> better to plan that when you have the dvds
[19:24] <Kilos> or lotsa data
[19:24] <kbmonkey> well if one person has the iso we can make copies
[19:24] <kbmonkey> I'
[19:24] <kbmonkey> I am to blame for kzn not having organized one
[19:25] <Vince-0> ha me2
[19:25] <kbmonkey> weekends have been taken up by family events, May is our party month I think
[19:25] <Vince-0> not much movement on the list
[19:26] <kbmonkey> so I will try get something going. I know William tried to organize
[19:26] <kbmonkey> Maaz, agreed KZN 14.04 Release party organization
[19:26] <Maaz> Agreed: KZN 14.04 Release party organization
[19:27] <kbmonkey> any other regions thinking about it?
[19:28] <inetpro> someone else also mentioned freedom toaster the other day
[19:28] <inetpro> reminds me of those days when we had lots of them around
[19:28] <inetpro> perhaps we should try to get more involved again
[19:28] <kbmonkey> (a couple of minutes left on the meeting clock)
[19:28] <Golynx> is there something like BUE (Black Ubuntu Empowerment) in SA ?
[19:29] <kbmonkey> you know inetpro maybe a usb toaster?
[19:29] <superfly> kbmonkey: what about my item?
[19:29] <kbmonkey> there are more usb's around than blank cd's
[19:29] <kbmonkey> we still getting to that superfly 
[19:29] <superfly> mkay
[19:30] <superfly> meeting is progressing slowly tonight...
[19:30] <kbmonkey> sorry, was just waiting for other release party interests
[19:30] <kbmonkey> I guess there is none
[19:30] <Golynx> usb's are expensive
[19:30]  * inetpro also has a terrible lag
[19:30] <kbmonkey> we got a larger agenda than usual superfly 
[19:30] <Kilos> Golynx  but you can use them over and over
[19:31] <kbmonkey> Golynx, I am not sure about BUE. Whether it applies to FOSS systems is a good question, because equality is already ensured by default
[19:31] <Golynx> Kilos right, but for single OS distribution wh will cough up that kinda cash
[19:32] <Golynx> who*
[19:32] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Minetest
[19:32] <Maaz> Current Topic: Minetest
[19:32] <Kilos> the toaster just puts the os on the stick
[19:32] <superfly> yay!
[19:32] <Golynx> kbmonkey yeah thats true
[19:32] <Kilos> each person brings their own
[19:32]  * superfly grabs the limelight :-P
[19:33] <superfly> anyone else here play Minetest or Minecraft?
[19:33] <kbmonkey> Golynx, it will be a temporary thing then they can reclaim their usb, good point though
[19:33] <kbmonkey> superfly, No but I may be curious. Does it require a low latency connection ?
[19:33]  * JabberwockyA19 googles minetest
[19:33] <superfly> I'm not sure. the rendering is all done client side
[19:34] <superfly> minetest runs as singleplayer locally
[19:34] <superfly> but I'm running a server
[19:34] <kbmonkey> I mean it is more an exploratory type game, and not one where quick reactions win?
[19:34] <superfly> if anyone is interested in playing on my server, just ping me and I'll send you the address
[19:34] <superfly> kbmonkey: it's like lego
[19:34] <kbmonkey> Awesome
[19:35] <kbmonkey> okay then I think I would like to try :)
[19:35] <superfly> it's in the repos
[19:35] <superfly> apt-get install minetest
[19:35] <superfly> http://wiki.minetest.net/How_to_build_your_first_house
[19:35] <superfly> that's the basics of ir
[19:35] <superfly> *it
[19:35] <superfly> the wiki has more information
[19:35] <kbmonkey> I have family visiting from overseas tomorrow for a week, so may only be able to game after that
[19:35] <superfly> or you can just ask me
[19:36]  * kbmonkey bookmarks link
[19:36]  * superfly is done now
[19:36] <Golynx_> ai
[19:36] <kbmonkey> Maaz, idea Minetest server run by superfly
[19:36] <Maaz> Idea recorded: Minetest server run by superfly
[19:36] <kbmonkey> recorded if anyone needs to know who to contact 
[19:37] <kbmonkey> I want to build a giant Tux :)
[19:37] <kbmonkey> Right, I believe that is our agenda done!
[19:37] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Questions
[19:37] <Maaz> Current Topic: Questions
[19:37] <Kilos> bushtech  something is working
[19:37] <kbmonkey> any questions?
[19:38] <magespawn> superfly my son plays at home
[19:39] <JabberwockyA19> has anyone played starbound?
[19:39] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Elect chair for next meeting
[19:39] <Maaz> Current Topic: Elect chair for next meeting
[19:39] <kbmonkey> before we get game crazy...
[19:39]  * Kilos votes for kbmonkey
[19:39]  * kbmonkey waves a banana in the air 
[19:39] <inetpro> +1 for kbmonkey
[19:39] <magespawn> kbmonkey +1
[19:39] <Kilos> ty kbmonkey  nice job tonight
[19:40] <Golynx> kbmonkey 1+
[19:40] <JabberwockyA19> kbmonkey +1
[19:40] <kbmonkey> Maaz, agreed kbmonkey to chair next meeting
[19:40] <Maaz> Agreed: kbmonkey to chair next meeting
[19:40] <kbmonkey> excellent. oh wehn is the next meeting.. hmmm
[19:40] <kbmonkey> 26th May
[19:41] <inetpro> nuvolari: why so quiet?
[19:41] <kbmonkey> err, 27th - Tuesdays. almost forgot
[19:41] <inetpro> kbmonkey: yep, 27th
[19:41] <kbmonkey> Maaz, agreed Next meeting on the 27th May 2014
[19:41] <Maaz> Agreed: Next meeting on the 27th May 2014
[19:42] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Closing
[19:42] <Maaz> Current Topic: Closing
[19:42] <inetpro> thanks kbmonkey
[19:42] <kbmonkey> Right that is it folks! I guess we got tired near the second half
[19:42] <Vince-0> whoot
[19:42] <kbmonkey> I award a banana sticker to everyone who was here tonight!
[19:42] <Kilos> hehe
[19:43] <Kilos> just now we call you kbnana
[19:43] <kbmonkey> Maaz, end meeting
[19:43] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[19:43] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2014-04-29-18-31-50.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2014-04-29-18-31-50.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2014-04-29-18-31-50.html
[19:44] <kbmonkey> Ah now I will create the next meeting detail and try make a summary for the list
[19:44] <magespawn> superfly minetest details? ping
[19:45] <Vince-0> im afk! cya kbmonkey, #ubuntu-za members
[19:45] <kbmonkey> ciao Vince-0 thanks for coming!
[19:45] <inetpro> kbmonkey: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/783/detail/
[19:46] <kbmonkey> Excellent pro
[19:46] <inetpro> we just need to populate the info again
[19:46] <Kilos> ditto superfly  ill ry too pleas
[19:46] <Kilos> e
[19:46] <inetpro> would be nice if we could just copy and paste 
[19:46] <Kilos> ai!
[19:47] <kbmonkey> Ill pop some items in
[19:47] <kbmonkey> this loco site is slow
[19:48] <inetpro> terrible
[19:49] <inetpro> and my connection is not at it's best this evening
[19:49] <kbmonkey> Kilos, I put my modem on the window sill it gets 3g, it runs out of battery like now, I take it down to charge and drops to 0.5g
[19:49] <Kilos> ai!
[19:50] <Kilos> move the charger closer
[19:50] <inetpro> rather take the power up
[19:51] <Kilos> what modems use external chargers
[19:52] <inetpro> Kilos: my router does
[19:52] <Kilos> oh them things ya
[19:54] <kbmonkey> this agenda editor is not so nice 
[19:55] <kbmonkey> I wish it was markdown
[19:55] <inetpro> kbmonkey: exactly
[19:56] <inetpro> need lot's of patience
[19:59]  * Kilos needs to sleep
[19:59] <magespawn> i am off to bed, long day catching up with me, good night all
[19:59] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:00] <Golynx> night Kilos
[20:00] <Golynx> night magespawn
[20:11] <inetpro> kbmonkey: have you given up for now?
[20:16] <kbmonkey> inetpro, no I just lost connectivity for a while
[20:17]  * inetpro filling in from the back
[20:17] <kbmonkey> was writing up a meeting summary meanwhile
[20:18] <inetpro> ok I'll add and you can modify as needed... hope we don't cause a clash
[20:19] <kbmonkey> more is better, right ;)
[20:20] <kbmonkey> I already added things in the wrong place but it is a pain to fix
[20:22] <inetpro> no worries, we have enough time to fix before the next meeting
[20:22] <kbmonkey> superfly, would you like me to mention on the list of your Minetest server?
[20:22] <kbmonkey> writing up a meeting summary of agreed items and ideas
[20:23] <superfly> nothing more than I have a server, and to contact me if you'd like to join.
[20:23] <kbmonkey> great.
[20:23] <superfly> kbmonkey: it's very open at the moment, I have resisted closing it, so I'm a bit wary of a ton of people I don't know joining
[20:24] <inetpro> kbmonkey: yikes! How do I delete?
[20:24] <kbmonkey> can you make it unlisted/invite only?
[20:24] <inetpro> and how did you get a bigger font there?
[20:24] <kbmonkey> hahaha, duplicates!
[20:24] <superfly> kbmonkey: I can put a password on it
[20:25] <kbmonkey> inetpro, I prefixed a line with # like one dos in markdown
[20:25] <kbmonkey> did not realize it would do that
[20:25] <inetpro> interesting
[20:25] <kbmonkey> cool superfly, no point putting a password in the email so Ill let you hand it out on contact
[20:26] <inetpro> maybe we just need to learn the syntax... anyway I'm stepping off now... need some sleep
[20:26] <kbmonkey> ...if you put a password that is
[20:26] <kbmonkey> sleep sounds so nice
[20:26] <superfly> kbmonkey: I'll see how it goes. if I suddenly have a surge of players, I might password-protect it
[20:27] <inetpro> kbmonkey: maybe we should just do like California http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-california/782/detail/
[20:29] <kbmonkey> you're kidding me. That is a much better idea!
[20:30] <inetpro> or like the Arizona LoCo Team http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-arizona/762/detail/
[20:30] <kbmonkey> will make editing and ordering much easier
[20:30] <kbmonkey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam
[20:31] <inetpro> just an idea
[20:31] <inetpro> I know maia will kill me for saying that, again
[20:31] <kbmonkey> but we have meetings on the wiki from previous years, so why not
[20:32] <inetpro> I get it that some people get intimidated by markup language
[20:33] <kbmonkey> It's just really tricky to use that agenda interface. You dont need markup, just a list will do.
[20:33] <inetpro> that was before the loco portal 
[20:33]  * inetpro agress
[20:33] <inetpro> agrees as well
[20:34] <inetpro> anyway, something to think about
[20:34] <inetpro> good night
[20:34] <kbmonkey> nite inetpro 
[20:34] <kbmonkey> chat again!
[20:37] <kbmonkey> eish, ubuntu wiki does not want to load the login page. strange.