| brainwash | everything seems to move in slow motion development wise | 00:01 |
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| sidi-valencia | Do you guys have much demand for https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6311? | 00:07 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 6311 in General "Add "Go back" button in case screenshot is not OK" [Normal,New] | 00:08 |
| sidi-valencia | or mostly storing teh passwordz | 00:08 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: I don't see any reason to, but that's just me. Testing wouldn't happen yet, still too early for anything to change. | 00:09 |
| sidi-valencia | http://www.unixstickers.com/stickers/linux-keyboard-stickers/xubuntu-circle-keyboard-sticker-cover-windows-flag SO EXCITED | 00:15 |
| sidi-valencia | do you guys receive money from this? | 00:17 |
| sidi-valencia | knome^ | 00:17 |
| Unit193 | Logan_: Ready? | 02:31 |
| Logan_ | my body is always ready | 02:31 |
| Unit193 | Can you remind me why https://sigma.unit193.net/source/darkice_ubuntu-to-ubuntu.diff - https://sigma.unit193.net/source/darkice_1.2-0ubuntu1.dsc can't be uploaded? :) | 02:35 |
| Unit193 | Besides dh_auto_configure being weird. | 02:37 |
| Unit193 | Logan_: Did you perhaps get a sec or should I (maybe) bother someone else? | 04:02 |
| Logan_ | I'm actually about to sleep | 04:03 |
| Logan_ | and you didn't ping me, so I didn't notice that :P | 04:03 |
| Unit193 | Aha, alrighty-o. | 04:04 |
| Unit193 | Well good sleepy time, then. | 04:04 |
| Logan_ | thanks :P | 04:05 |
| Logan_ | you should sleep, too | 04:05 |
| Unit193 | Nah, it's still early. | 04:05 |
| jhenke | ggod morning | 06:21 |
| knome | sidi-valencia, they usually do that, but since we can't "make money" out of xubuntu, we will get some free stickers for the team instead | 10:40 |
| slickymasterWork | knome, pleia2, http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/xubuntu-reviews/xubuntu-14-04-lts/ <- not sure if you already knew about this review | 10:47 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, i read it yesterday | 10:47 |
| slickymasterWork | ok | 10:47 |
| sidi-valencia | interesting | 11:05 |
| knome | what is? | 11:07 |
| brainwash | is bug 1314153 a "won't fix" candidate? | 13:07 |
| ubottu | bug 1314153 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "XUbuntu reinstalls all default packages on release update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314153 | 13:07 |
| knome | not really... i think it's something to fix | 13:08 |
| knome | the problem is that it's not xubuntu-desktop that pulls in those packages | 13:09 |
| knome | having xubuntu-default-settings reinstalls abiword and gnumeric | 13:09 |
| knome | imo that's a bug | 13:09 |
| brainwash | ah I see | 13:09 |
| knome | (i didn't look at the bug itself, but i know what i said is true) | 13:09 |
| brainwash | so I'll just ignore this report | 13:11 |
| knome | well i just updated it | 13:11 |
| brainwash | great :) | 13:11 |
| knome | err, boo for the order of importance statuses | 13:12 |
| knome | set to confirmed/low | 13:12 |
| elfy | hi GridCube | 13:45 |
| GridCube | :) hi elfy | 13:45 |
| elfy | GridCube: so I have a task for someone :) | 13:50 |
| GridCube | :) | 13:50 |
| elfy | bit boring though ... I'd love to know what version apps we have for testcases - at present there is no version control on that | 13:50 |
| GridCube | how would i do that? | 13:52 |
| elfy | there is a pad linked to from the package test groups card - the info could go on that | 13:52 |
| elfy | get the version of say terminal - add it to the pad | 13:53 |
| elfy | going to talk to balloons about this later - I'd like to have an app's version referenced on the testcase - so we know where we are if things change | 13:53 |
| pleia2 | slickymasterWork: thanks, it's on my list to create the new Press page for 14.04, but I'm traveling this week so it keeps getting bumped, hopefully if today goes as planned I'll get it up today :) | 14:02 |
| elfy | o/ pleia2 | 14:03 |
| pleia2 | hey elfy o/ | 14:03 |
| knome | pleia2, well actually the infrastructure is already updated, you only need to drop in links now | 14:03 |
| pleia2 | knome: oh, thanks :) | 14:04 |
| knome | np | 14:04 |
| pleia2 | Permanently delete task 28 'create 1404 press page for xubuntu'? (yes/no) yes | 14:04 |
| pleia2 | \o/ | 14:04 |
| elfy | knome: hi :) | 14:04 |
| knome | hehe | 14:04 |
| knome | hey elfy | 14:04 |
| elfy | knome: when you've got some time to spare let me know | 14:06 |
| knome | now would be it | 14:07 |
| elfy | mulling over the large groups of tests we have in some of our testsuites - and the resulting lump of time we end up asking our testers to give us | 14:08 |
| knome | what kind of input would you like to have? :) | 14:08 |
| elfy | http://pad.ubuntu.com/5opi9dQG5e | 14:08 |
| elfy | is what I was playing with | 14:08 |
| elfy | much smaller groups - 9 of them - call one very 2 weeks - gives us 6 weeks in the cycle free of package calls | 14:09 |
| elfy | was my thinking | 14:09 |
| knome | mhm | 14:09 |
| elfy | "this might be merged" is all well and good - but it's not at the moment - so I have to test with what I've got in images | 14:12 |
| knome | sure | 14:12 |
| elfy | same with 'do we keep shipping' :) | 14:12 |
| knome | just fyi and that it doesn't come as a surprise | 14:12 |
| knome | yep | 14:12 |
| elfy | mmm - thanks - I guess perhaps there are some specific channels and/or mailing lists it might be useful for me to be in/read | 14:13 |
| knome | i guess #xfce-dev, but don't feel obliged to | 14:13 |
| knome | a lot of it is irrelevant to you | 14:13 |
| elfy | yea | 14:13 |
| elfy | are there public logs? | 14:13 |
| elfy | if there are I could just skim look there | 14:14 |
| knome | good question | 14:14 |
| elfy | knome: so other than the fact that some things 'might' change - do you see an issue with changing testsuites about for unicorn? | 14:15 |
| knome | i don't think there is | 14:15 |
| knome | no, but looking at the list, might want to group media/docs | 14:15 |
| knome | and not sure about mugshot/menulibre | 14:16 |
| elfy | yep - that makes sense | 14:16 |
| knome | menulibre could be in the new "apps" bunch (with media/docs) | 14:16 |
| knome | mugshot and whiskermenu... don't really know, they are pretty different from gtk3 indicators and light-locker | 14:16 |
| knome | though i guess it doesn't matter if we just want to split the testing to some even groups | 14:17 |
| elfy | yea - I don't the 'grouping' itself is too much of an issue | 14:17 |
| knome | also thinking if it made more sense to make a few optional testsuites | 14:18 |
| knome | for example, accessories only has one non-optional item | 14:18 |
| elfy | that's a good idea | 14:18 |
| elfy | I'll play with that | 14:18 |
| knome | so maybe consider grouping the optional testcases first | 14:18 |
| knome | then see what's left | 14:18 |
| knome | and try to make even groups | 14:18 |
| knome | could even mix up them completely | 14:19 |
| elfy | main thing I want is to be ready for when packages.qa is up | 14:19 |
| elfy | yep - I'll look at that now | 14:19 |
| knome | eg. try to only have one "bigger" application in a group | 14:19 |
| knome | so the testing isn't too unbalanced | 14:19 |
| elfy | yep | 14:19 |
| knome | fortunately we can create as many testsuites we want | 14:20 |
| elfy | yep | 14:20 |
| knome | so we can play around and improve as needed | 14:20 |
| elfy | knome: that's mad - I wonder why that lump of appearances is still sitting in the settings manager testcaase | 14:32 |
| knome | hehe | 14:33 |
| elfy | bug 1314222 :) | 14:35 |
| ubottu | bug 1314222 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Xubuntu Settings Manager includes appearance test" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314222 | 14:35 |
| elfy | knome: alternatively we could not use testsuites and just have the tests on the tracker seperately - (not the optional one) then just call from a list | 15:35 |
| knome | mmh | 15:42 |
| elfy | you seem as enthralled by that as me :p | 15:43 |
| elfy | I've fiddled about with the pad - I'm leaving it now for a day | 15:44 |
| slickymasterWork | knome, you around? | 16:55 |
| Logan_ | Unit193: did you get someone to look at your update? | 18:15 |
| knome | slickymaster, now i am | 18:18 |
| elfy | slickymaster Unit193 lderan - can you look at http://pad.ubuntu.com/5opi9dQG5e - we need to amalgamate the top 9 groups a bit more - but I want someone else to look - thanks | 19:36 |
| ochosi | i hope you don't mind that i keep advertising your PPA with the powerman patch to potential testers ;) | 22:04 |
| brainwash | it does not fix the problem for elfy... so I don't feel like spreading the word myself to get more testers :P | 22:08 |
| ochosi | yeah, i understand | 22:11 |
| ochosi | it's just so hard to believe for me that i can't stop spreading the word :p | 22:11 |
| brainwash | this problem is really annoying, it's all about the right timing | 22:12 |
| brainwash | or implementing a proper solution | 22:12 |
| ochosi | yup, proper solution seems a bit out of reach for 14.04 though | 22:13 |
| brainwash | it would involve xfpm, ll and maybe the greeter (blank timings) | 22:14 |
| brainwash | so meh | 22:15 |
| Unit193 | Logan_: I hadn't pushed for it. | 22:15 |
| ochosi | brainwash: exactly. proper solution in some future release, patch-up for 14.04 | 22:16 |
| Logan_ | Unit193: but pushing is how you succeed! | 22:16 |
| Unit193 | Logan_: But I've already had it locally since the beginning of saucy. :D | 22:22 |
| amigamagic | ochosi are you there? | 22:25 |
| amigamagic | some theme expert here? knome? | 22:31 |
| ochosi | amigamagic: what's up? | 22:31 |
| amigamagic | ochosi, wait I'll post a screenshot so you can view my problem | 22:32 |
| amigamagic | ochosi, http://oi57.tinypic.com/35hle8z.jpg | 22:34 |
| amigamagic | I'm trying to make a blue border around the active windows from greybird theme | 22:35 |
| amigamagic | so I copied the border image files from kokodi theme | 22:35 |
| amigamagic | to the greybird theme folder | 22:36 |
| amigamagic | but I have big troubles in modifying the xpm files of the top borders | 22:36 |
| ochosi | how are you having troubles? | 22:36 |
| ochosi | 1) just use gimp and 2) remove the png files for starters | 22:36 |
| amigamagic | when I open them with the gimp and resave them without changing nothing, they will change! | 22:37 |
| amigamagic | it's like they have an alpha channel that gimp doesn't recognize | 22:37 |
| ochosi | no, but some of them pick up theme colors | 22:37 |
| ochosi | you can see when you edit them with a text editor | 22:37 |
| ochosi | but as long as you don't want to do that, just create a theme with absolute colors with gimp | 22:37 |
| amigamagic | you think that's normal that if I open the file top-left-active.xpm (from Kokodi theme) and resave it with gimp, without change nothing, it will be messed up? | 22:38 |
| amigamagic | now I'll post another screenshot of the difference before and after the resaving with gimp... | 22:39 |
| ochosi | i already told you | 22:40 |
| knome | amigamagic, please don't ping specific people unless you really need to talk with them please | 22:40 |
| brainwash | I tried to work on the invisible border patch for xfwm4 today.. and gave up after 5min | 22:40 |
| brainwash | :/ | 22:41 |
| amigamagic | knome, I needed to talk with him :P | 22:41 |
| knome | but not me. | 22:41 |
| amigamagic | sorry, but I thought you too could explain this thing to me | 22:41 |
| amigamagic | ochosi, here is the screenshot of my top left border after the resaving with gimp: http://oi58.tinypic.com/2a6m32d.jpg | 22:42 |
| amigamagic | basically, I would like to have a blue little border around all the window (starting from the greybird theme) | 22:43 |
| ochosi | then just replace the few pixels you need to replace in a text-editor in greybird | 22:43 |
| amigamagic | from the xpm file, you mean? | 22:44 |
| ochosi | yes | 22:44 |
| amigamagic | ok, I will try that, thanks | 22:44 |
| amigamagic | thanks ochosi, changing the xpm file with a text editor works... It's a little tedious, but it works... | 23:06 |
| Unit193 | Logan_: Were you perhaps interested in taking a look or should I head to -motu? | 23:10 |
| bluesabre | knome: are you around? | 23:35 |
| knome | yep | 23:41 |
| bluesabre | cool | 23:45 |
| bluesabre | want to do me a favor? | 23:45 |
| knome | tell me what it would be and i'll consider ;) | 23:46 |
| bluesabre | tough customer | 23:46 |
| bluesabre | :) | 23:46 |
| bluesabre | knome: can you verify the fix here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/menulibre/+bug/1313276 | 23:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1313276 in MenuLibre "Crash of Menulibre and Alacarte due to conflict in xfce-applications.menu" [Undecided,New] | 23:47 |
| knome | oh bah ;) | 23:48 |
| knome | give me anything from 5mins to 30mins | 23:48 |
| knome | and i'll go and verify it | 23:48 |
| bluesabre | :) | 23:48 |
| bluesabre | I'm trying to figure out where the duplication is coming from | 23:49 |
| bluesabre | think I have narrowed it down | 23:49 |
| bluesabre | and when you do try that, let me know | 23:54 |
| bluesabre | I have a little debug code I want you to try | 23:54 |
| bluesabre | :) | 23:54 |
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