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ScottKRiddell: What's your opinion on the KF5 release strategy?02:49
ScottKapachelogger: What time zone am I seeing Doodle options in?  It starts a 1600.03:29
jussiapachelogger: I discovered the issue with my powermanagent, and youll be thankful to know it was not software related...05:49
jussi(it helps to use the correct 90W power adapter, not the 65W one from the other dell... :/ )05:50
apacheloggerScottK: > The first time slot available should be 16:00 UTC [2] and the last21:00 UTC [3].07:19
apacheloggerjussi: does that affect the governors though Oo?07:20
jussiapachelogger: yes, it does. 07:21
jussifrom cpufreq-info: 07:21
jussi  available cpufreq governors: conservative, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance07:21
jussi  current policy: frequency should be within 800 MHz and 2.54 GHz.07:21
jussi                  The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use07:21
jussi                  within this range.07:21
jussi  current CPU frequency is 2.54 GHz.07:21
apacheloggerjussi: at /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor07:22
apacheloggerjussi: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor07:22
jussijussi@Constellation:~$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor07:22
jussiondemand07:22
jussiondemand07:22
apacheloggerspooky07:22
apacheloggervery very very spooky07:22
jussiapachelogger: I plan to do a complete reinstall and see if it still happens, just to make certain my meddling didnt do somethign strange. I will inform you after that...07:24
apacheloggerI'd rather have your meddling did affect it :P07:24
apacheloggerotherwise it would raise more question than it answers ;)07:25
apacheloggershadeslayer: re dep3 .... I am reasonable certain python has an rfc 2822 parser07:25
jussiapachelogger: yes, exactly. but the way to find out if it was my meddling or not is to do the clean install07:25
apacheloggerthat's half the work right there07:25
lordievaderGood morning.07:29
valorieovidiu-florin: congratulations!07:29
ovidiu-florinthank you valorie07:29
valorieare you taking a fun wedding trip after?07:31
yofelapachelogger, jussi: FWIW, I have a Tinkpad Edge here at work which is shipped with a 65W adapter... which doesn't give enough power to run the system at full power AND charge the battery.07:48
yofelSo unless I use a 90W adapter I get my CPU downclocked as well while the battery is charging07:48
yofelovidiu-florin: congratulations! :)07:48
jussiyofel: thanks, sounds familiar07:48
apacheloggernooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo07:48
apacheloggernow I am wondering what is making it do that07:49
* apachelogger shakes fist and runs away crying07:49
yofel^^07:49
ovidiu-florinyofel: thanks07:49
apacheloggershadeslayer: I do not see bug 1267765 fixed08:02
ubottubug 1267765 in kdesudo (Ubuntu) "kdesudo not localized" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126776508:02
apacheloggerdpkg-query: no path found matching pattern *kdesudo.mo*08:03
apacheloggerRiddell: are you going to move kdesudo upstream?08:03
apacheloggerit's not maintained really08:04
Riddellapachelogger: yes I've been pondering it08:31
RiddellScottK: shrug, I think it's a reasonable strategy to make for them and while it means we might ship with something which is soon considered out of date it's only because we've been spoilt with a 6 month cycle that mostly matches our own that we don't normally have many of those issues08:32
shadeslayerapachelogger: re 1267765 , ask pitti?09:14
RiddellElv1313: sflphone got into updates https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sflphone/09:14
apacheloggerwell, I did not mark the kdesudo task released when clearly it aint? :P09:14
* apachelogger wonders how the flip kubotu is started09:27
apacheloggertsimpson, jussi: do you remember how we start kubotu? it's parent appears to be init but I can't find any reference to it in /etc :S09:38
jussiapachelogger: no idea about kubotu, however, with ubottu she is started from her own config files directory09:40
apacheloggerbut how09:42
apacheloggersomething needs to call something to start something xD09:42
jussitsimpson: will likely have a better picture at the moment than I do09:43
Riddellshadeslayer: are you planning to do anything with the telepathy packages in staging PPA for precise? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+packages?field.name_filter=telep&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=precise10:51
BluesKaj'Morning11:17
tsimpsonapachelogger: the server was last rebooted on the 17 and I started all the bots after that (via nohup)12:28
apacheloggerahhh, that explains it suppose12:31
sgclarkSome of the build fails in precise require libkolab > 5.0 anyone working on that or can I backport kolab?13:09
sgclarkRiddell: ^13:09
Riddellsgclark: which ones?13:10
sgclarkRiddell: PIM13:10
sgclarkrelated13:11
sgclarkhttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+build/5963713/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-amd64.kdepim-runtime_4%3A4.13.0-0ubuntu1%7Eubuntu12.04%7Eppa4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz13:11
Riddellsgclark: mm yes do backport those I guess libkolab and libkolabxml13:12
sgclarkRiddell: super, on it13:12
shadeslayerapachelogger: pft, this is the output from the RFC2822 parser http://paste.kde.org/piseyuq6h13:53
apacheloggershadeslayer: subject needs special parsing13:53
apacheloggerI am just syaing, rfc 2822 provides a base to work with13:54
apacheloggerin fact I think only subject/description need different handling anyway since they can be pretty lax multi-line form13:54
shadeslayerwell, Bug too as you can see from my paste13:54
apacheloggerno13:54
shadeslayerwell, it doesn't work :)13:55
apacheloggerrfc2822 doesn't manage to parse this version of subject/descirption so it reads too far and assumes bug is part o fit13:55
shadeslayeruhm I think it reads too little actually13:56
apacheloggeralas, it appears to me that the python rfc2822 parser might be a bit silly because I don't think that would happen with strict parsing13:56
apacheloggershadeslayer: anything is possible13:56
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/pffkdktoy13:56
apacheloggerif dep3 was the same as rfc2822 it would be called rfc2822 :P13:56
sgclarkRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7366549/14:12
Riddellhmm, python foo14:12
Riddellsgclark: that libkolab or libkolabxml?14:13
sgclarklibkolabxml14:13
sgclarkalso had to disable tests to get this far14:13
shadeslayerapachelogger: Hm, then what do you propose? I can't see a way to specify to the email feedparser that it should parse Subject specially14:15
Riddellsgclark: investigating..14:16
sgclarkRiddell: thank you!14:16
apacheloggershadeslayer: fork it14:27
shadeslayerpfsth14:27
apacheloggeryou take an existing rfc2822 parser and adjust it to parse dep314:27
shadeslayerokay14:27
apacheloggerwhich will probably mean special handling for subject and adding a bunch of aliasing features as fields in dep3 can have multiple denotations14:28
shadeslayeraliasing features?14:28
apacheloggersubjection may be subject|description14:30
apacheloggerforwarded I think also can have more than one field label14:30
shadeslayerah right14:30
shadeslayeri shall do the forkery on Friday14:30
shadeslayerthough I still think my parser is good enough :P14:31
apacheloggerit's shit.14:33
Riddellsgclark: I can't recreate that error in my chroot, build fine14:35
Riddellsaying "W: dh_python2:427: public extension linked with libpython2.7: _kolabformat.so"14:36
Riddellsgclark: so not sure, maybe you have some python3 stuff installed that's confusing it14:36
Riddellsgclark: I'll upload libkolabxml to the staging PPA and see what happens14:36
shadeslayerapachelogger: good enough for our branches xD14:37
sgclarkRiddell: ok ty14:39
Riddellsgclark: uploaded, looks like kdepim-runtime is the last one it's worth fixing so do give libkolab a try14:42
sgclarkRiddell: will do14:42
apacheloggershadeslayer: the branches where maybe 10% of patches are dep3d? I am not sure that assertion will hold should that value rise :P14:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: any SRU's that need verification?15:14
apacheloggerpam-kwallet but I don't think that one is in yet15:14
apacheloggerother than that I only have the qt a11y on my board15:14
apacheloggeralas, I am being lazy and haven't actually read the comments since last week15:15
shadeslayermuch slow15:15
Riddellapachelogger: qt!15:15
sgclarkRiddell: libkolab https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p8hlhv9lztlyyjl/4RjZyLGlfY/kubuntu-files , seems my PPA is full after removing all the calligra stuff, needs time15:37
shadeslayerapachelogger: ping15:42
RiddellI wonder when someone will make an shlibs type system for qml, would make packaging it far more reliable15:44
Riddellsgclark: uploaded!15:46
sgclarkRiddell: ty. python 3.2 snuck onto my chroot and was the issue, fixed now though15:47
Riddellsgclark: how annoying, it still shouldn't get confused during the build15:47
ScottKRiddell: it is increasingly my opinion that upstream isn't concerned about distros. We're apparently primarily a nuisance. 16:09
RiddellScottK: I think supporting stable releases is something that open source projects generally do badly, they just happen to be accepting it which may not be a great solution to us.  but it's a bit like how we're bad at doing QA on LTS releases and nobody in the community sets up automated QA16:16
ScottKI think they were doing okay on KDE4.16:18
ScottKGotta go. 16:19
sgclarkRiddell: tried to patch i386 pkgkde-symbolshelper: error: no valid patches found16:24
sgclarkRiddell: libkolab recreated symbols https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p8hlhv9lztlyyjl/4RjZyLGlfY/kubuntu-files 17:07
apacheloggershadeslayer: oui?17:40
shadeslayerapachelogger: meh nvm20:23
jarkkohow to prevent baloo running?20:47
shadeslayerjarkko: add your home dir to the list of non indexable folders in the KCM20:47
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