[07:29] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:52] <Fudge> hi ya
[07:53] <lordievader> Hey Fudge, how are you?
[07:53] <Fudge> goin good here lordievader
[07:53] <Fudge> getting ready for Vinux to build Trusty images in next day or so hopefully
[07:54] <lordievader> Fudge: Good luck ;)
[07:56] <DJones> Is "do-release-upgrade -d" working for 14.10 yet, or do you still have to manually edit the sources list
[07:56] <Fudge> lordievader:  thanx muchly
[07:56] <lordievader> DJones: I think the second. Test it I'd say. I'd like to know ;)
[07:57] <Fudge> No new release found
[07:57] <DJones> Give me a minute to start up a vm & I'll let you know
[07:57] <DJones> Actually, maybe a few minutes, I'll clone the vm first
[07:57] <Fudge> someone familiar with sed could prob repalce trusty with unicorn
[07:58] <lordievader> s/trusty/utopic/g ?
[07:58] <lordievader> That's what I did in vim ;)
[08:03] <DJones> Sheesh, it takes long to clone a 14.04 vm, than it did to install it originally
[08:04] <lordievader> Hehe
[08:04] <DJones> -d option gives No new release found, so no, not set up yet
[08:05]  * lordievader wonders when it will be available
[08:10] <DJones> I would guess a week or two
[08:13] <DJones> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule  Toolchain planned for 24/4
[08:15] <lordievader> DJones: You know that already happend, it's 30/4 today ;)
[08:15] <DJones> Yep
[08:16] <DJones> It better had be the 30th anyway, its payday
[08:16] <lordievader> Meh now we have a few days extra that we can brag that we run Utopic :{
[08:16] <lordievader> :P*
[08:19] <DJones> I suspect there's not much difference to 14.04 at this stage anyway
[08:19] <lordievader> No, mostly /etc/issue is changed.
[11:17] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[18:56] <l3on>  $ sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[18:56] <l3on> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[18:56] <l3on> No new release found
[18:56] <l3on> is it ^ normal ?
[19:03] <lordievader> l3on: For now, yes.
[19:04] <lordievader> l3on: There are other ways though.
[19:04] <l3on> lordievader, sed s/trusty/utopic/g on sources.list ?
[19:04] <lordievader> l3on: Precisely :)
[19:05] <l3on> mmm... I prefer do-release-upgrade .. I guess it does things better than a simple dist-upgrade
[19:05] <l3on> lordievader, do you know when utopic will be available via update-manager ?
[19:06] <lordievader> l3on: Not sure, but for as far as I know, do-release-upgrade does much the same as sed -> apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:12] <rww> l3on: there aren't enough changes to utopic from trusty for do-release-upgrade to matter rigth now
[19:12] <rww> it's a lot closer to release when they start programming in quirks and such
[19:38] <l3on> rww, indeed :)
[20:32] <larrypg> Hello all, just wondering if Xubuntu has a different release of the daily's than some of the other builds...It appears that is the only version that has not had a 14.10 daily.   If it does then am wondering what it is...have not been able to find out through searchs
[21:10] <Na3iL> larrypg, → http://xubuntu.org/news/tag/14-04/
[21:17] <larrypg> Na3iL, I might be dense but do not see anything after 14.04 other than the march towards 10/2014
[21:24] <trism> larrypg: it's failing to build because of a package conflict, but it looks like that was just fixed a couple hours ago, so maybe tomorrow
[21:25] <larrypg> trism, thank you for the info...appreciate it
[21:39] <aguitel> are mate desktop running in 14.10 ?
[21:49] <aguitel> are mate desktop running in 14.10 ?
[21:50] <trism> aguitel: the session manager and panel are both in, haven't tried yet though, I'll give it a shot
[21:51] <aguitel> ok
[22:16] <trism> aguitel: yep it seems to be working, just installing mate-session-manager
[22:16] <trism> aguitel: theming is kind of ugly so probably missing some stuff, but functional
[22:18] <aguitel> ok thanks
[22:18] <trism> aguitel: ahh mate-settings-daemon is still stuck in -proposed, that explains the theming issues
[22:19] <trism> failed to build, needs a newer mate-desktop than we have
[22:33] <aguitel> i installed mate 1.8 in 14.04 ,works fine
[22:34] <aguitel> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/how-to-install-mate-18-in-ubuntu.html
[22:34] <aguitel> i follow this guide
[22:35] <trism> aguitel: that works too, I'm talking about packages in the ubuntu repos
[22:36] <aguitel> no package in ubuntu repos