[14:06] <pmatulis> xnox: ↑
[14:08] <xnox> pmatulis: i don't use virt-install much.
[17:40] <xnox> is grub1 supported in trusty?
[17:43] <infinity> xnox: It's in main, so "sort of"?
[17:43] <xnox> infinity: upgrade bug to trusty, of machines originally installed with 8.04, and which didn't upgrade to grub2 yet
[17:44] <xnox> infinity: i would have thought we'd force people to grub2 by now.
[17:44] <xnox> also failing to purge grub2 and install grub1 on precise to reproduce the upgrade failure.
[17:44] <infinity> So start with 8.04, upgrade a few times, and then test? :)
[17:45] <xnox> =))))
[17:45] <xnox> infinity: well 8.04 -> 14.04 upgrade should mostly work, right?!
[17:45] <xnox> =)))))
[17:46] <xnox> it's just the base system on raid1, or like just one package upgrade to be honest.
[17:46] <infinity> From a minimal system, it might just work.  Ish.
[17:46] <infinity> Oh, except that you'd need to be sure dpkg got upgraded first. :P
[17:46] <infinity> Cause we don't have pre-deps for xz debs anymore.
[17:46] <infinity> Which is almost all of them.
[17:46] <xnox> right
[17:46] <xnox> and multiarch-support i guess.
[17:47] <infinity> Well, upgrading dpkg pulls in libc and multiarch-support.
[17:47] <infinity> All of which are gzip.
[17:47] <infinity> So, it could work, in theory.
[17:47] <infinity> I wouldn't hold my breath.
[17:54] <xnox> pre-kirkland painted d-i with 90s style isolinux loader dialog, that's fun =)
[17:54] <xnox> oh and no bug that last character on the bottom row is painted the wrong color.
[17:57] <xnox> no weak-password prompt. 8.04 was so much better =)
[18:13] <infinity> Yeah, I just installed hardy here and noticed the lack of weak password prompt.
[18:18] <xnox> ALSO INSTALLER LOG IS IN ALL CAPS
[18:28] <xnox> grub stage 1.5 \o/
[18:29] <antarus> hardy?
[18:29]  * antarus blinks
[18:29] <xnox> antarus: aha =)
[18:29] <xnox> infinity: step 1 -> get updated keyring? =)
[18:33] <infinity> antarus: Don't ask.
[18:34] <xnox> infinity: libc6 preinst fails. 8.04 -> 14.04
[18:34] <infinity> xnox: Guess how much I care.
[18:35] <infinity> Shouldn't take long to upgrade a base install from 8.04 to 10.04 to 12.04 to 14.04 anyway.
[18:35] <infinity> Just annoying.
[18:35] <xnox> i think after lucid's dpkg/libc6 it should be better.
[18:35] <antarus> i'm confused
[18:35] <antarus> why are we doing this?
[18:36] <xnox> antarus: reproducing upgrade bug on trusty with grub1 never upgraded to grub2 since 2008
[18:36] <antarus> you..support that?
[18:36] <antarus> 'reinstall your machine'
[18:36] <xnox> antarus: well it's upgrade from precise to trusty that broke. And it's only one package at the moment.
[18:36] <xnox> antarus: so why not?
[18:36] <antarus> ahh
[18:37] <xnox> infinity: well, it would be nice for liblzma5 to not data.tar.xz
[18:40] <cjwatson> it's meant to work but I haven't tested it in years.
[18:40] <infinity> xnox: Ouch.  Yes, that would be nice.
[18:41] <xnox> "internal error, could not perform immediate configuration (2) on sysv-rc" =)))))
[18:42] <infinity> xnox: I don't think you'll get any useful data out of this experiment without upgrading in 3 steps anyway.
[18:42] <xnox> yeah.
[18:42] <infinity> xnox: As you'll be skipping migration code that was added and subsequently removed, etc.
[18:52] <xnox> oh, i'll be able to run the test of "never removed conffiles from eons ago at the end of this"