=== jhodapp|afk is now known as jhodapp === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|afk === vying is now known as Guest78862 === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [03:26] evening folks === Steve[cloud]_ is now known as Steve[cloud] [03:26] Steve[cloud]_, evening [03:27] anyone else run into the situation where after initial flash a N10 just seems to reload stock android? [03:27] Not I" said the fox [03:27] im stuck in a Nexus boot animation loop >.< [03:27] :O [03:28] lets try this again... [03:37] ok, did it again [03:37] thats really annoying. === aaa is now known as aa2aae2 [03:52] ping rsalveti === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [06:57] good morning [07:00] morning === mhr3__ is now known as mhr3 [08:22] I'm getting http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7364796/ when trying to run a windowless go-qml app; any ideas? === randomcpp is now known as gcollura [08:36] Chipaca, if you want windowless, don't instantiate QGuiApplication [08:36] how will updates install on touch after ubuntu one shutsdown? [08:36] I'm not, not directly at least [08:37] lotuspsychje: ubuntu one file sync is not involved in updates [08:37] Chipaca: ah so its seperated, and will keep existing accounts? [08:37] accounts and the cloud db wont be shut down [08:37] nice [08:38] you can still store config settings of apps there and manage accounts [08:38] just file sync and dependent services like music shop & streaming, photo albums, 3d printing, etc [08:38] ok great tnx [08:41] Chipaca, looks like go-qml does only gui applications, so... :/ [08:41] is there a way to receive updates after enabling read-write mode (would like to install terminal packages) [08:41] lotuspsychje: you can apt-get update and upgrade? [08:41] mhr3: oh, craptastic :-( [08:41] mhr3: thanks for the info tho :) [08:42] Chipaca: that will manually update the channel=devel then? [08:42] lotuspsychje: nope [08:42] Chipaca, i just quickly grepped go-qml, perhaps ping gustavo to double check ;) [08:42] will do [08:43] Chipaca: so its not recommended to unlock read-write then? [08:43] but fwiw it's go-qml, not go-qt :) [08:43] lotuspsychje: so, you're on the stable channel, and want to get updates from devel? [08:43] lotuspsychje: is that it? [08:43] Chipaca: would like all updates, but also install terminal packages: nmap irssi etc [08:44] lotuspsychje: but what channel is the phone on? [08:44] my nexus7 run channel=devel [08:45] the site explains after enable read-write mode you can get updates anymore right? [08:46] lotuspsychje: you don't get image-based updates any more [08:46] lotuspsychje: but you can upgrade the distribution using apt-get if you wish [08:47] lotuspsychje: and move it to utopic by editing /etc/apt/sources.list [08:47] lotuspsychje: etc [08:47] lotuspsychje: it's still ubuntu :) [08:47] okay nice [08:48] lotuspsychje: you should also be able to reflash it without losing user data, but I personally haven't tried that so I don't know if it works (nor how to do it in detail) [08:48] Chipaca: i unlocked it last install, but i rather wanna receive the devel updates so [08:49] think ill leave it locked then [08:50] Chipaca: maybe an unlock switch would be handy in system settings [08:50] lotuspsychje: you mean to make it *easy* for users to break their system? [08:51] lotuspsychje: I can't fathom how you think that's a good idea :) [08:51] Chipaca: lol, or just install terminal applications when they need to [08:52] Chipaca: or is it a security flaw to enable read-write? [08:52] lotuspsychje: it is not [08:56] lotuspsychje: question for you: how do you install terminal applications? [08:57] Chipaca: sudo apt-get install nmap [08:58] lotuspsychje: how? [08:58] Chipaca: from terminal (after unlocking the readw-write [08:58] lotuspsychje: from the phone terminal app? [08:58] Chipaca: from my nexus7 terminal app yes [08:58] heh. ok. [08:59] it worked nicely [08:59] lotuspsychje: do you have some kind of bluetooth keyboard, or is this typing on the glass? [08:59] irrsi also works, but cant switch to other channels [08:59] typing in terminal keyboard yes [09:00] ok, fair enough [09:00] im testing all kinds of classic terminal apps on ubuntu touch [09:00] links2 doesnt react my touch :p [09:00] dont forget that apt upgrades are not supported and will break at some point [09:00] ogra_: oh, they will? [09:00] yes [09:00] ogra_: darn [09:00] by design [09:00] ah [09:01] so its designed for a touch app only [09:01] well, its a dpkg limitation in fact [09:01] ogra_: just upgrades, or installing stuff too? [09:01] ogra_: tell me more :) [09:02] the image is spanning across multiple partitions ... whern replacing files dpkg ises hard links ... hard links do not work across partition boundaries [09:02] s/ises/uses/ [09:02] does it use trusty latest to install packages? [09:02] beyond that there are only 500MB free space on the readonly image [09:03] so you will run out of space at some point [09:03] ah i see [09:03] im really trying something its not designed for [09:03] i should wait for an irssi app [09:03] well, it is designed for apt-get install ... but not for apt-get upgrade :) [09:04] ogra_: but I've used dpkg in a multiple partition scenario, with /usr/ readonly, without issues, on servers, for years [09:04] (and you could indeed pull the image off the phone, make it bigger and copy it back for the space issue) [09:05] Chipaca, try installing a package that really makes use of that ... lxc-android-config is a good example here [09:05] or do you mean because of the layered thing [09:05] dpkg will fail ... [09:05] ogra_: but one could install a package, then purge and reinstall for a newer one (instead of update) [09:05] ogra_: I'll take your word for it :) [09:05] lotuspsychje, yes, but thats not what apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade does [09:06] i guess if you handle such packages separately it would technically work, but you get into dependency hell then [09:06] i understand [09:06] since if you remove something its will try to remove the depending packages too indeed [09:06] its a new way to use the terminal on touch [09:06] there are plans for getting the reradonly setup into the desktop too for convergence [09:07] unless ubuntu desktop is installed right [09:07] for that there will have to be a solution for dpkg [09:07] how do you mean ? [09:07] (unless ubuntu desktop is installed ?) [09:07] well lets say i can install trusty desktop on nexus7 [09:07] instead of touch [09:07] i could use it like normal [09:08] no, i was talking about the PC installation above [09:08] ok [09:08] you can indeed install ubuntu-desktop on a N7 ... but there are no Xorg drivers ... [09:08] so that wouldnt help you much [09:09] ogra_: yeah i also see video's you need keyboard or mouse for some stuff [09:09] (until the desktop is unity8 and uses Mir) [09:09] ogra_: ok so ill stick to ubuntu touch=devel with updates on and read-write off [09:10] is it hard to create an ubuntu app? [09:10] the readwrite mode is mainly for actually developing the system iself [09:10] depends what you want it to do :) [09:10] well im not really a developer so :p [09:11] lets say i want to create an nmap app for ubuntu out of the .deb file [09:11] are there easy app creators or something out there? [09:12] you would turn it into a click package ... probably have to rebuild nmap statically linked, if you want UI you would have to teach nmap to either cooperate with QML or to spit out html [09:13] ogra_: got an url on must have software to create apps? [09:13] creating a gui app is easy with qtcrator ... [09:13] *creator [09:13] lemme look that up tnx [09:13] developer.ubuntu.com [09:13] that should be your starting point [09:14] the gui part isnt much harder than creating a webpage ... getting proper backend integration is the hard part [09:14] might be over my head then :p [09:15] (usually requires that there is a QML/Qt extension for it ... i.e. if you wanted to write an email client you can easily click together a UI, but you would have to teach Qt/QML about IMAP or POP) [09:15] i see [09:15] alot of tools show up on apt-cache search qtcreator [09:15] if you use existing Qt/QML backends its super easy [09:16] but adding custom ones isnt [09:16] the ubuntu ui toolkit will at one day offer most of the backends you can imagine thogh [09:16] and is there a package on existing backend projects? [09:16] aha [09:16] look at developer.ubuntu.com ... it should give you all info you need [09:16] bright future [09:16] ok tnx === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [10:02] Morning all [10:04] morning [10:07] bzoltan, morning! did you have the time to take a look at the udm so that it can be added as part of the sdk? [10:09] mandel: not really... but adding it to the SDK is really just a single line change in the Touch seeds.. by ogra_ or somebody else who can do that. [10:10] ogra_, are you too busy to do that ^ [10:10] ogra_, please :) :) [10:10] hmm [10:11] how do we get it onto the image today ? i dont even see it in the touch seed [10:11] ogra@styx:~/Devel/seeds/ubuntu-touch.utopic$ grep download * [10:11] ogra@styx:~/Devel/seeds/ubuntu-touch.utopic$ [10:12] aha, as a dep of system-image-common [10:13] mandel, can you do an MP ... there is a seed change currently in the media-hub landing and i dont want to clash (sinde seed/metapackage upgrade is completely manual) [10:13] mandel, if you want it in the sdk, you want to add it to the sdk-libs file in the seeds [10:14] s/sinde/since/ [10:15] ogra_, sure, what project is that? [10:15] mandel, lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.utopic/ [10:16] dbarth, i have bug 1314410 for you [10:16] hmm [10:16] no bot [10:16] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+bug/1314410 [10:16] Elleo, I have requested a silo for you udm branch, will be adding an MP following what _ogra said [10:16] ogra_: listening === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [10:17] no bot, weird ;) [10:17] ogra_: ah, this one is fixed already [10:17] dbarth, refresh doesnt work in the webapp-container ... specifically the refresh button in the error page [10:17] ogra_: let me find you the silo/banch [10:17] ah, cool [10:17] feel free to just close it then [10:18] mandel: cool, presumably I should merge the latest changes from trunk into that branch first [10:18] Elleo, no need, in the review I made sure that there are no conflicts :) [10:18] ogra_: that was https://code.launchpad.net/~abreu-alexandre/webbrowser-app/fix-network-dialog-reload/+merge/216379 [10:18] mandel: ah, cool [10:18] one less thing to do :) [10:18] ogra_: which is marked landed in ci train [10:19] Elleo, and you only made changes in the qml and those files were just moved [10:19] yeah [10:19] ogra_: maybe not in the image yet, though that's a been a while i thought [10:20] yeah, no worries [10:20] i think it landed as SRU ... cjwatson just copied a bunch of things over to utopic [10:20] i guess it is among them [10:20] ogra_: i'm worried though, as the original bug should have been tagged fix-released once landed [10:21] [ Olivier Tilloy ] [10:21] * Handle new view requests in the browser. (LP: #1307735) [10:21] webbrowser-app 0.23+14.04.20140416-0ubuntu1 [10:21] i assume thats it ? [10:21] nope [10:21] oh [10:21] that was #1309138 [10:22] and davmor2 verified it btw [10:22] oh, it's been sru'ed indeed; it was an sru in the first place [10:22] ogra_: so you're right, that should be in the next image build [10:22] i'll keep an eye on it when testing the next update [10:24] Yeah, I only just copied those to utopic [10:25] ogra_, one question, the sdk-libs-dev, what is is used for? do I need to add the libs that are required to develop the qml plugin? [10:25] cjwatson, hmm, it looks like this sepcific one didnt get into -updates yet, i dont see 0.23+14.04.20140422-0ubuntu1 of webbrowser-app [10:25] *specific [10:26] mandel, -dev is used on the desktop when developing iirc you want just sdk-libs (-dev doesnt end up on the image) [10:27] ogra_, great, so I just add qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-download-manager0.1 to sdk-libs and I'm sorted :) [10:27] yeah [10:28] ogra_, I had to stop my self and sort the in alphabetical order hehe [10:28] sdk-libs will be re-worked soon ... all the plugins are renamed [10:29] i'll make sure they are alphabetically sorted then so it doesnt itch you so much next time ;) [10:29] Hi alll... Does anyone know if Ubuntu phone can be configured to accept auto-reconnects from the car bluetooth stereo? Right now, I have to manually connect each time. [10:30] * ogra_ wasnt aware you can connect to car stereo at all ... thats awesome info [10:30] beniwtv, file a bug (bluetooth-touch is the package name i think) [10:30] ogra_: Yep, it does work :) [10:32] ogra_: yeah, I only copied the one from -updates - I don't normally copy from stable-proposed to devel-proposed in case they fail verification [10:32] right, thought so ... [10:32] dbarth, so the SRU team needs to let it in first ... [10:32] (seems easy since it is verification-done) [10:34] ogra_, here you go => https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-seeds/udm-in-sdk.utopic/+merge/217737 [10:35] thanks ! [10:42] Elleo, we have silo 20 for your udm branch, last night it took around 1 hour and a half to build so is a matter of waiting [10:42] ogra_, we do expect media-hub to land, right? [10:42] ogra_, I just want the browser to be unblocked by the udm qml landing :) [10:45] mandel: great, thanks :) [11:15] mandel, yes, about as long as we expected udm to land :) [11:16] ogra_, oh lord.. [11:17] but i guess it lands today [11:45] ogra_, \o/ (for today landing of content-hub) [11:45] media ? [11:45] :) [11:45] Elleo, testing https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-020/ if everything goes ok we will be one step closer [11:46] ogra_, true hahaha bloody context switch is not only hard for threads :P [11:46] :) [11:46] mandel: great :) [11:48] * rickspencer3 can't wait to update today [11:49] rickspencer3, you arent on utopic yet ? [11:50] ogra_, today is the day :) [11:50] going to do my phone and my laptop [11:50] note bug 1307981 though ... [11:50] * rickspencer3 braces [11:50] hmpf [11:50] I WANT THE BUGBOT BACK !!! [11:50] bug #1397981 [11:50] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1307981 [11:50] * ogra_ plays bugbot [11:50] :,( [11:51] ogra_, that looks annoyng [11:51] ogra_: I break stuff you fix it those were the rules, See this is what happens when you break the rules ;) [11:51] popey, do you know who runs the bugbots ? is that alan bell ? [11:51] so, basically, I need to have either wifi OR 3g on, but not both? [11:52] rickspencer3, it seems to manifest differently for everyone who sees it [11:52] like a strange religious experience [11:52] maybe it's not real? [11:52] j/k [11:52] for me it didnt show up at all today ... i had it three times yesterday and just dis/enableing wifi fixes it here [11:52] ok, I will wait until it's fixed [11:52] for pat it seems to be far worse though [11:53] davmore is somewhere between our two experiences apparently [11:53] sadly it shows so random that we didnt even notice it before promoting [11:54] ogra_: depends which ones, wassup? [11:54] popey: no bugbot in the house [11:54] popey, seems all bug bots in all channels i am in are dead [11:54] ok [11:54] * popey goes to ask [11:56] hey [11:56] seems the bugbot in #ubuntu-arm is still alive though [11:57] in #ubuntu-ci-eng it is dead [11:57] ubuntu will support of xperia talbet or not [11:57] k, will ask ogra_ [11:58] amrit_, not officially, but there might be a community maintained port on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [11:59] popey: am I right in thinking there isn't anything that can view PDFs yet? A quick search in the store didn't show up anything and I'm guessing from the wiki that the Document Viewer app hasn't had much done towards it yet? [12:01] correct Elleo however a community guy - frecel_ has ported the ffos js pdf viewer, but is holding back until the html5 sdk is in parity with the qml sdk i believe (content hub for example) [12:01] popey: ah, heh; that's almost exactly what I was thinking of doing :P [12:02] hah [12:02] iirc the html5 stuff for content-hub should have been updated a little while back now [12:02] we have the qt bindings for poppler in the image [12:02] someone just needs to make use of them [12:03] ogra_: oh, interesting [12:04] (for personal use i have a tool that turne a pdf into a html and builds a click package with included html viewer out of it ... in case you just want to scratch your own itch) [12:04] s/turne/turns/ [12:04] Elleo: the docviewer has seen no love for some time. [12:05] !test [12:05] Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test ) [12:05] bug #12345 [12:05] \o/ [12:05] bug 12345 in isdnutils (Ubuntu) "isdn does not work, fritz avm (pnp?)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12345 [12:05] thanks jussi [12:05] thanks !! [12:05] ogra_ was getting lonely without it [12:05] awww [12:05] ogra_: I was actually mostly just looking for some little project to get me familiar with the HTML5 bindings and thought something wrapping pdf.js could be handy [12:05] jussi, it is dead in #ubuntu-ci-eng too (not sure we use the same bot there though) [12:06] so does that mean ogra_ like me again? :D [12:06] Elleo, ah [12:06] the best pdf viewer i tested for androis was foxit reader [12:06] jussi, did i ever stop ?!? [12:06] ogra_: I dunno, havent talked to you for ages :D [12:06] jussi, you are my favorite jussi, there is no other jussi like you :) [12:07] ogra_: :D [12:07] maybe I'll do something similar with webodf [12:07] jussi: ogra_ lies he said the very same thing to the other jussi ;) [12:07] right, back to work [12:07] popey: ^ I assume that hasn't been done as well? [12:08] not heard of that [12:09] okay, cool; it'd be interesting to see how easy it'd be to get an ODF editing interface in such a small space [12:09] well, viewing capability would be great at least [12:10] Elleo, testing done, everything looks ok [12:10] but i guess that should become a docviewer feature as well in the end [12:10] ogra_: yeah, but since webodf has full editing capabilities it'd be nice to make use of them :) [12:10] mandel: great [12:12] just tried one of the demos in webcontainer-app and it's pretty usable straight away [12:12] e.g. webapp-container http://www.webodf.org/demo/ci/webodf-0.4.2-2009-gb122af0/editor/localeditor.html --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/webbrowser-app.desktop [12:13] just package it then :) [12:13] ogra_: it'll need some changes to be usable locally for opening files, integrating with content-hub, etc. [12:14] unless people just want to edit the demo document on the web :P [12:14] but I'll leave that until this evening when I'm done with *proper* work ;) [12:14] heh [12:14] hmm, some keyboard buggyness though [12:15] wow [12:15] even the open button works [12:15] ooh, yeah [12:15] it's doing a file upload [12:15] so it's using the content-hub file upload stuff in the browser [12:15] (gives me content-hub ... but sadly only gallery and addressbook) [12:17] hmm, yeah, the kbd requires that you scroll around a little, then it stays visible [12:18] input seems to break somewhat if you have autocorrect on too [12:18] i have turned all that stuff off here ... it gets in my way a lot [12:18] ogra_: yeah, I normally have it off; but one of my main tasks at the moment is fixing lots of that stuff :P [12:19] oh my ... you poor guy [12:19] ogra_: here's a before and after on some new spell-checking fixes I'm just finishing up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zGcY3qLYdM&feature=youtu.be === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:20] * ogra_ blames popey for not shariing that on G+ [12:25] how is the media-hub-weather today :)? [12:25] asac, nobody of the landers got up yet :P [12:26] what i saw from the night it seems all good and ready [12:26] (there was one remaining change to the upstart job that landed, i guess its good to go once jim gets up= [12:26] ) [12:26] so all green, just waiting for someone to be around while this goes in. good. [12:26] ogra_: lander == rsalveti? [12:27] yeah, and jhodapp|afk indeed [12:28] grr [12:28] * ogra_ didnt have bug 1307981 all day ... now it has bitten me again [12:28] bug 1307981 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "[touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1307981 === jhodapp|afk is now known as jhodapp [12:31] is the twitter accounts plugin supposed to work with twitter 2fa? [12:33] ah, second time it worked [13:47] boiko, poke about https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/telephony-service/start-on/+merge/216492 [13:49] mterry: oh, sorry, we have been focused on other stuff, I ended up not noticing the MR, I will review that soon [13:49] boiko, thanks! [14:06] bfiller: hi! Any news about the landing of the app-access2 branch of u-s-s-o-a? Do you still plan it? [14:10] mardy: haven't had time to get back to that, might be best for dbarth to do it now that we have more time [14:16] dbarth: will you take care of that? [14:22] mardy: yup, can do [14:22] mardy: that alone though, ie not the rest of the integration,which is still gated on trusted sessions [14:24] dbarth: yes, but there was another branch or two... let me find them [14:25] dbarth: https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/libaccounts-qt/packaging/+merge/209903 and https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/friends-app/app-access2 [14:33] cjwatson: would you mind double-checking http://paste.ubuntu.com/7366649/ ? no 14.10 frameworks, just the final 14.04 ones; I dont think we will build any more trusty images, but it's probably needed that I SRU this afterwards for the click chroot case === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [14:52] Saviq, are there any known issues with u-s-c disappearing? [14:52] pmcgowan, not that I know of, no [14:52] mterry, ↑? === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [14:53] I just filed a bug about it not respawning, but not sure why it died to beging with [14:53] pmcgowan, it doesn't do all that much. Mostly just a wrapper around libmirserver. But software has bugs I suppose [14:53] why do you always get the weird bugs ? [14:54] I know right [14:54] last three days in a row, system looked dead but wasnt [14:55] mterry, i can file a second bug on it dying but I dont have any info for it, no crash file etc [14:55] mterry, unless there is a log somewhere to grab [14:55] lool: Mostly LGTM, but aren't you missing ubuntu-sdk-14.04-html? There's an ubuntu-sdk-14.04-html-dev1 [14:56] pmcgowan, /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log would have some info, but it gets overwritten next boot [14:56] pmcgowan, next time! [14:56] lool: We're going to need to change "click chroot" too [14:56] mterry, ok [14:56] fginther Mirv Kaleo what do we need to do in order to get the UITK API docs updated everytime you have a new release? I have the script to import them into the server, I just need somebody to make it run agianst the docs every team [14:57] mterry, there are .old files in there, looks like it backs up the last one [14:59] mterry, the old log and new are the same with one exception, old has the line "Failed to read header" [15:01] pmcgowan, huh... that means it couldn't parse/handle the control messages lightdm was sending it [15:02] pmcgowan, Elleo all of the stuff that needed to land from udm for the downloads has landed, we have a branch from the seed and once that is there we should be ok in the side of the touch image === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [15:02] mhall119, It's mainly the time needed to set it up (and maybe adding a firewall rule depending on where it needs to run). You already have the script to do the updates correct? [15:02] pmcgowan, Elleo we are waiting for media-hub to land before because it has changes in the seeds too [15:03] mandel: excellent, thanks :) [15:03] fginther: yes, I can give you the script and an auth token to use with it [15:03] mterry, fwiw https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-system-compositor/+bug/1314666 [15:03] Launchpad bug 1314666 in Unity System Compositor "USC dies overnight" [Undecided,New] [15:05] pmcgowan, odd thing is that that "Failed to read header" message doesn't abort USC... Would be interesting to see the actual backtrace [15:06] mterry, no crash file unfortunately [15:06] Pics or it didn't happen, pmcgowan! [15:07] mterry, dooh === vying is now known as Guest29768 [15:25] boiko: hi! Did you have any luck with the flaky autopilot tests in dialer-app? (possibly caused by some crash), i.e. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dialer-app/+bug/1307588 [15:25] Launchpad bug 1307588 in dialer-app (Ubuntu) "Autopilot test flakyness in test_outgoing_answer_local_hangup and test_outgoing_answer_remote_hangup" [High,New] [15:27] sil2100: so, elopio and I were waiting on some branches to land, cause I think the crash might be related to that very old known dialer-app crash [15:28] boiko: yay! Since we're still having that on our utopic images - please keep us posted :) [15:28] sil2100, boiko: oh, sorry, my fault. [15:28] sil2100: I was supposed to tell you that. [15:29] elopio: I'm happy if it's being worked on, these strange failures haunt us for so long already :) [15:29] pmcgowan: bzoltan: what's the framework version we're going to use for utopic? [15:30] mhall119, *14.10* [15:30] I expect [15:30] but a reasonable question [15:33] you guys are doing a great job! tnx for making ubuntu touch grow [15:43] rsalveti: can I get the current brightness level from powerd? [15:43] Laney, i think there was something added in the most recent uplaod [15:43] wasn't that 'dim'? [15:43] [ Ricardo Salveti de Araujo ] [15:43] * Also exporting dim brightness value via getBrightnessParams [15:43] * Bump major version due dbus API changes [15:44] isnt that what you want ? [15:44] no [15:44] ah [15:44] popey, are any app updates planned for today? [15:44] pmcgowan: no, i planned to do a bunch tomorrow, why? [15:45] well, there's a load of updates which landed in trunk since last week [15:45] i mean, I am not planning on pushing to the store until tomorrow [15:45] popey, ok, wanted to see if my bug still exists [15:45] which bug? [15:45] You're lucky if you only have one! [15:45] if I see app and system updates, my update page blanks out [15:45]