[01:23] <jyo> Unintentionally hilarious: https://tim.siosm.fr/blog/2014/04/25/why-not-ubuntu-14.04-lts/
[01:23] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: Why you should not use it, at all - Siosm's blog]
[01:25] <rww> "Debian 7 if you’re OK with the packaging system"
[01:25] <rww> i can tell i'm going to disagree with this already
[01:27] <jyo> Yes, he suggests Debian 7 in the intro but keep reading until Reason 3...
[01:27] <rww> (1) and (2) are legit. (2) is not avoidable because Ubuntu does time-based releases. (3) is the usual Redhat user complaint that's fixable using config iirc. (4) sabdfl just +1ed someone asking for a MRE for mariadb [...]
[01:28] <jyo> (1) LTS enablement stack but sure.
[01:28] <rww> does LTS enablement stack mean they're dropping support for the kernel trusty comes with in a few years?
[01:28] <rww> (few < 5)
[01:29] <rww> (5) re: Pollinate sounds about right, and I dunno about the other bits. (6) lol
[01:30] <jyo> No, I think it's either original trusty for 5 or ride the enablement train until next LTS. At least that's what the wiki seems to suggest for 12.04
[01:30] <pleia2> nhaines: yeah, shame about the 18 months thing (not true of any releases anymore!)
[01:31] <rww> jyo: i think (1) is complaining about original trusty...
[01:31] <rww> "there's also the hardware enablement stack" doesn't really contradict it
[01:32] <rww> except to point out that kernel team has even more on their plate, which furthers their point
[01:33] <rww> anyways. that blog post belongs on omg!rhel
[01:36] <jyo> rww: Agreed.
[01:55] <nhaines> I don't understand how 53% to 34% to <3%.... is not impressive anymore?  That didn't make sense to me.
[02:08] <rww> hrm?
[02:09] <rww> oh, the table in the link
[02:11] <nhaines> In other news, the server CDs are actually DVDs.
[02:11] <nhaines> This is good because servers should be really powerful so you don't really want to run a server that only has a CD-ROM drive.
[03:00] <jose> pleia2: I am working to get that issue fixed asap
[03:00] <jose> (the 18-months one)
[03:03] <pleia2> jose: glad to hear it :)
[03:10] <rww> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1313885
[03:10] <rww> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1308572
[03:10] <rww> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1314247
[03:10] <rww> http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/toolkits.html
[03:10] <darthrobot> Title: [Bug #1313885 “lock screen bypass” : Bugs : “unity” package : Ubuntu]
[03:10] <rww> :P
[03:10] <darthrobot> Title: [Bug #1308572 “Ubuntu 14.04: security problem in the lock screen” : Bugs : “unity” package : Ubuntu]
[03:10] <darthrobot> Title: [Bug #1314247 “lock screen bypass with ctrl+alt+t” : Bugs : “unity” package : Ubuntu]
[03:10] <darthrobot> Title: [XScreenSaver: On Toolkit Dialogs]
[03:10] <elky> spammer
[03:14] <nhaines> rww: those aren't really important because nobody knows about them so Unity is still secure.  :P
[06:14] <nhaines> Ubuntu DVDs: http://ubuntuone.com/7iy45Afeff3j3hykG03Xyh
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[07:18] <nhaines> Permanent Let's give that a permanent home.  :)  http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhaines/images/media/discs/trusty_cds.jpg
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[22:06] <nhaines> pleia2: so Merchandise Mania shipped a package to me about 11 hours ago.  Scheduled to be delivered tomorrow.  So hey, that conference pack request probably went through.