[06:17] morning jabberwocky93 Spekko and others [06:17] hi Xethron [06:18] morning Kilos and others [06:18] have you fixed it yet [06:18] Maaz should have a greet all method [06:18] hmm me ? [06:18] more Kilos :-) [06:19] no Xethron [06:19] aaah [06:19] his lappy keeps crashing [06:20] Which laptop does he have ? [06:20] haha [06:20] Acer [06:20] must be a telkom laptop :P [06:20] hahaha [06:20] rofl! [06:20] hi Xethron ideas man [06:20] Nope, thats why I want a new one [06:21] Did it start crashing after 14.04 > [06:21] ? [06:21] did you see the link for ubuntu pcs [06:21] I was looking at system76, but its R2,000.00 for shipping [06:21] they expensive but all ubuntu [06:21] ouch [06:21] ok lets try sort yours [06:21] first how old is the drive [06:22] Spekko: Nope, since I put Linux on it [06:22] Kilos: If it was the drive, I would get an error and not a complete crash [06:22] I assume it could be the RAM [06:23] But then I assume it should be total RAM failure [06:23] Xethron: anything useful in the syslogs? [06:23] yes ram too but easy to check the drive [06:23] jabberwocky93: nope, nothing [06:23] i kept crashing here and it was the drive [06:23] Xethron: How old is the machine ? [06:23] lemme find a command [06:23] Kilos: yes, but mine doesn't crash, it freezes solid. Screen still looks fine, but it freezes [06:24] Nothing moves, not even sysRq Reboot works [06:24] use the live iso and run the mem test on it for a few hours [06:24] ya thats what mine did too [06:24] Kilos: and it was the drive? You sure? [06:24] had to boot again [06:25] I thought a drive would spout errors as the system runs in memory........ [06:25] yes i now run windows on the first 30g and ubuntu on the rest and no probs [06:25] Xethron: ah so you know about Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring :P [06:25] got some bad blocks in the first 30g [06:25] jabberwocky93: hahaha, I didn't know the rhyme, but thats pretty cool :P [06:25] but there are commands to sort and not use bad blocks [06:26] As a PHP dev, I'll just change it to ElePHPants :P [06:27] sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda1 > bad-blocks-result [06:27] morning all [06:27] Kilos: but I'll have to run that with a live CD right? [06:27] hi Private_User [06:27] no i ran it on the pc [06:28] hi Kilos [06:28] there are extra commands that tell it not to use bad blocks found [06:28] hi jabberwocky93, Spekko, Xethron, [06:28] hehe @ elephpants [06:28] morning Private_User [06:29] just read above, you guys sure its not an issue in the BIOS? [06:29] when I check my CMOS settings there is an option there about the OS on the drive [06:30] Morning Private_User [06:30] * Spekko salutes Private_User [06:30] at ease soldier [06:30] http://slexy.org/view/s21z8J8GUh [06:30] :D [06:31] yeah if SysRq doesn't help it must be something related to cpu/ram/mobo [06:32] I had an old server also crashing now and then, after many many hours of trial and error replacing some of the caps on the motherboard solved the problem [06:33] how do you find which caps are the problem ones [06:34] oh my peer got him [06:40] Kilos: that was the good work of Active Systems, a small PC shop in stellenbosch [06:40] aloha [06:40] hi superfly [06:40] ah [06:41] I can do some tricks with a solder, just about anything except actual soldering [06:41] i dont remember where i found it , just know i use it on all my old drives [06:42] just know that linux is much more sensitive to dicey drives than windows is [06:46] lol jabberwocky93 what you mean by tricks with a solder? [06:47] i asked how you identify the bad caps [06:54] ai! [07:23] hi Vince-0 [07:25] good morning [07:25] Maaz: coffee on [07:26] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [07:26] hi charl_ [07:26] hi Kilos [07:27] how's it going [07:27] Maaz coffee please [07:27] Kilos: Yessir [07:27] ok ta and you [07:29] i'm good [07:29] Kilos: "tricks" like using it to burn a hole in my bike's number plate or lighting crackers ^_^ [07:29] hahaha [07:30] Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos! [07:30] Maaz ty [07:30] You are welcome Kilos [07:35] Haai [07:38] hi Golynx [07:38] hi Kilos [07:38] oh new version of firefox today [07:38] hi Golynx [07:38] hi charl_ [07:38] hi jabberwocky93 [07:39] ff29 looks like chrome [07:40] maybe they want to make it easier for chrome people to join them lol [07:40] hi charl_ [07:41] hi jabberwocky93 [07:45] yeah [08:00] hi Golynx [08:05] Maaz tell inetpro Fix it man [08:05] Kilos: Sure, I'll tell inetpro on freenode [08:38] hey anybody heard of a company called gTeam previously? [09:36] hi theblazehen [09:36] hi charl_ [09:40] You have to download a total of 803 M. This download will take about 11 hours with your connection. [09:40] aawww :-( [09:42] whow ! you on 3g? [09:43] no adsl [09:45] compare to http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/04/17/%23ubuntu-za.txt [09:45] [12:02] You have to download a total of 1 290 M. This download will take about 23 minutes with your connection. [09:45] hence "aawww :-(" [09:49] eina that sucks [09:59] will probably take half a minute here [10:05] i see ipv6 privacy extensions work again on 14.04 [10:05] for some reason it was broken on 13.10 [10:05] it works perfectly under debian 7 too [10:05] the problem with debian7 is that it accumulates more and more ipv6 addresses until you have like 10 of them [10:06] it seems ubuntu is better at managing it now [10:50] o/ lew [10:51] 0// [10:52] lo nuvolari [10:55] hi nuvolari Vince-0 Kilos [10:56] hi theblazehen [10:57] surp [13:05] * superfly wonders where inetpro is [13:11] hello [13:14] aloha kbmonkey [13:15] hi kbmonkey [13:15] looks like their whole system is down there [13:15] all 3 are missing [13:22] I would venture that DNS seems to be the problem [13:22] hi superfly & Kilos [13:23] logged into your minetest server superfly [13:23] kbmonkey: cool, I'm at work right now... [13:23] maybe I can log in on my phone [13:23] good man kbmonkey im still stuck after cutting some trees [13:24] kbmonkey: there's an android client called BuildCraft [13:24] there is no way my phone will run that - thanks tho ;P [13:24] Kilos, I built a house and garden on top of the hill, heh. [13:25] wee, just logged in on my phone [13:25] this mine thing is new to me [13:26] found your house [13:27] but BuildCraft is a little difficult to use [13:30] haha im still stuck trying to get logs to the plank stage [13:32] following the tutorial, ill first practise here before i go further [13:33] superfly: Buildcraft? [13:33] well, I see it's like MineCraft. do you have a Buildcraft server? [13:33] i cut some trees too much and ended with whole in the ground hee hee [13:35] Squirm-: minetest client for Android [13:35] Squirm-: yes, I do [13:35] careful Kilos ! you don't want to fall down the hole... [13:35] lol [13:36] if only I had a tablet... [13:36] I fell down a hole sombody had dug and got hurt [13:36] in the game? [13:37] yes in game xD [13:37] its the fly, he knew you were coming [13:38] there are lots of caves [13:38] be careful [13:39] once you have some wood in the crafting grid they tell you to cut some more. how do you turn off the grid again [13:39] you know that thing you open with i [13:41] are we getting into minecraft now? [13:41] someone clue up an old man :) [13:44] Kilos, press i again? [13:44] or escape? [13:44] I am leaving, going to try beat the trafic today... [13:44] then the window gos black and i see nothing [13:45] go safe [13:45] that sounds wrong [13:45] you not stuck in the dark cave Kilos ? [13:45] i was out on the grass when i did i [13:45] anyway go home now man [13:55] ThatGraemeGuy: minetest - open source minecraft clone [13:55] haha i have some planks and an apple and astick [13:56] and 24 dirt [13:59] so people can play on the same map? [13:59] sorry, i don't really know minecraft [14:06] i need to set it brighter somehow [14:08] someone let me know when it's light again :/ [14:08] ThatGraemeGuy: yes [14:08] ThatGraemeGuy: it's like... a world [14:08] with different Biomes [14:09] and you can build things [14:11] ah [14:11] always looked kinda interesting just never bothered [14:16] oi tried to fill the whole with dirt and it just got deeper [14:16] whew [14:26] Squirm-: i think it's about 20 minutes [14:26] I can change that to longer [14:51] Kilos: Can you click away from the grid? [14:51] to do what [14:51] Close crafting table in minecraft [14:52] when the grid shows i cant click anywhere else [14:52] is minetest and minecraft the same thing [14:53] hi theblazehen , bushtech [14:53] hi Golynx [14:53] hmm, minecraft :-/ [14:54] haha i have a pile of cobblestones as well but dunno whewre they came from [14:54] maybe outa the dirt i dug up [14:55] i used to be excelent in rts games, maybe next year i will take over the world [14:58] Golynx: hmm, tasty minecraft .. [15:01] until then i'm stuck at dominating these type of strategy games :p http://www.freedownloadflashgames.com/skill/Gravitee_Wars_3362.html [15:01] theblazehen: minecraft sounds good , i wana play [15:01] someday :) [15:02] Golynx: it is :) [15:08] ive dug myself too deep in now, purged game and will try again tomorrow [15:14] Kilos: as in `rm -rf` purged ? [15:16] aptitude purge [15:17] i wanna try it on unity tomorrow. its too dark here and i can find the brightness setting [15:18] wb inetpro plustwo Mzolisto [15:18] what did you guys break [15:19] ai! [16:59] theblazehen: we're playing minetest - an open source minecraft clone [17:03] superfly: ah, kk [17:03] On a server? [17:04] yep, I'm running a server [17:06] superfly: cool. Url? [17:06] theblazehen: pm'ed you [17:07] superfly: ty. will go on later [17:15] Download almost done [17:15] charl_: you got IPv6? Nice! [17:23] theblazehen: he's in the netherlands, I think, so it's kinda expected [17:23] superfly: true. I'm on the server BTW [17:30] hi spinza [17:34] 9 minutes left of my Office download :( [17:34] theblazehen: cool [17:34] It means I'm gonna have to do work :/ [17:40] theblazehen: i've been irc'ing over ipv6 for at least 5 years yes [17:40] * theblazehen is jealous [17:41] don't be, if you don't have native ipv6 yet go grab a tunnel :P [17:42] there's teredo/miredo, aiccu/sixxs, 6in4/he, 6to4, etc etc [17:42] charl_: good idea [17:43] my cable provider is running behind the times and also does not have native ipv6 yet on the network [17:43] they promise every year that they will roll it out and then it becomes the next year [17:43] at work we have had dual stack for a long time though [17:43] they are even running it it on the wlan now [17:44] looks like inetpro has serious probs [17:44] Kilos: hmm? [17:46] anyone still using firefox? any thoughts on the new interface? [17:47] superfly: *still* using? what are you using then? chromium? [17:47] i think it's quite nice personally [17:47] charl_: nope, but a lot of folks have moved to chromium/chrome [17:47] I still prefer firefox [17:47] lol [17:47] me too :P [17:48] I'm using FF with a custom userChrome.css and tree style tabs.. I'm not ready to -Syu yet :( [17:48] Fuck it, I'll stick with 28 [18:16] ai! [18:17] hi hibana wb [18:17] what broke [18:17] Kilos: at what time did we loose inetpro? [18:17] again [18:17] early [18:17] nee man, serious!? [18:18] 08.48 [18:18] is that serious enough [18:18] Kilos: no this evening [18:18] been back for a bit [18:18] oh [18:19] 19.42 [18:19] * hibana gets home thinking everything is hunkydory again only to test and see we're down again [18:19] what a day? [18:19] this is not fun [18:19] whats happening there [18:20] the whole DC lost power [18:20] hackers cracking you or crackers hacking you [18:20] power as in electricity [18:20] yebo yes, UPS power issues nogal, as far as I understand [18:20] sjoe [18:21] servers need power to run [18:21] strange to get power cuts in town [18:22] not city power [18:23] probs in the building? [18:23] I keep getting power cuts :( It kills my uptime :/ [18:23] 20:22:35 up 12:54, 3 users, load average: 5.09, 4.79, 4.98 [18:26] power becoming a serious issue in za [18:26] I see even MyBroadband tearing us apart with "Gov.za tango down" [18:26] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/101496-gov-za-tango-down.html [18:27] this is not fun man [18:27] not sure exactly what the problem is but I sure hope they are putting a proper solution to prevent this from happening again [18:28] sjoe [18:29] do the server boot auto maticcaly when power returns? [18:29] srevers [18:29] servers [18:30] the article doesn't look so bad to me [18:30] some systems are robust and can handle power failures but others can be very fragile [18:31] would hardly classify as "tearing" you apart imho [18:31] * hibana feels better now [18:31] charl_: thanks [18:31] :) [18:31] i know, from the inside it feels much harder :) [18:33] * hibana feeling 10 years older after today [18:33] ai! [18:35] http://neo900.org/ Can't wait for the release of this! [18:38] theblazehen: wow, that sounds awesome [18:38] As soon as I can get them to accept bitcoin, and I've made enough to pay for one, I'm buying one [18:38] hope it can compete with the likes of the Note 3 [18:39] nope, it wont [18:39] ai! [18:39] But it IS a kinda small job [18:39] http://neo900.org/specs [18:40] * hibana would love to see something where the height of the screen is as wide as an A4 page [18:41] and a physical keyboard would always be a bonus [18:41] and as you get older it must get bigger [18:42] Kilos: As long as you can see the pixels. I feel the pixels on the ipad etc. are wasted as you cant use them all, becuase if you make fonts that small you can't really read it [18:43] haha i battle to read lots of stuff here [18:43] http://i.imgur.com/ocEstXc.png for reference: My display [18:43] need to ctrl+ a few times [18:43] I like small fonts, and I cannot lie.. [18:44] i canr read any of that [18:44] cant [18:44] zoom in, lol [18:44] theblazehen: which wm is that? [18:44] charl_: awesomewm [18:44] Wanna switch to i3 soon [18:44] maybe when I move to my netbook [18:45] And use this machine as a VM host [18:45] how you zoom in [18:45] kilos: ctrl + mouse wheel up [18:45] i've been using i3 for almost a year now [18:45] very happy with it [18:45] mouse whell dont work [18:45] i see you're using python, nice [18:45] charl_: great to hear. Using dmenu for menu, etc? [18:45] yeah, python is good [18:45] Kilos: try ctrl and + ? [18:45] standard i3 menu yes [18:46] whatever it is called :) [18:46] if i ctrl+ 3 times i can read [18:46] charl_: I just don't like the title bars. But I'm sure I can remove them [18:46] Not sure if I shouldn't just get w3m, and do it all in tmux though [18:46] which editor are you using? [18:46] I really like tmux [18:46] vim! of course [18:46] ah i see [18:47] i was about to say it doesn't look like vim [18:47] but i guess you have a lot of options set [18:47] yeah, mainly powerline [18:47] ah here is a good question [18:47] terminal emulator - which one [18:48] charl_: xterm [18:48] I like it as it's small, and it doesn't have a scrollbar like urxvt [18:48] how much power can one get out of a rack mountable UPS device? [18:48] interesting [18:49] sorry i promise, last question [18:49] which font is that ? [18:49] nah, It keeps me away from working :) [18:49] gimme a sec [18:49] Source Code Pro patched for powerline [18:49] i go sllep now [18:49] cya Kilos [18:49] good luck hibana [18:49] sleep tight all [18:50] thanks Kilos, good night [18:50] hmm [18:50] charl_: Also using monokai for the colours [18:51] ah [18:51] thanks i'll check those out [18:51] kk [18:51] very interesting :) [18:51] and if you haven't already, check out tmux too. ty :) [18:52] I'll share any dotfiles if you want, should be easy to figure out though [18:53] i'm using byobu which uses tmux in the background [18:53] but yes tmux is awesome [18:53] but i was particularly interested in the font [18:54] charl_: Have you had a look at Termsyn? Also a good font [18:54] Which font do you currently use? [18:55] i'm using the standard courier 10 pitch which ships with ubuntu [18:55] Also how is byobu better than tmux? Looking at screenshots it kinda looks worse.. [18:55] not a bad font per se but it could be better [18:55] ah, kk [18:55] byobu is just a layer around tmux, it's stupidly simple to configure tmux [18:56] and the default settings are quite good [18:56] have you tried tmux alone? Also sane defaults, quite.. ok [18:58] yes i used to use it straight before switching to byobu [18:58] before that i used screen for many many years [18:58] ok, guess I'll try it out then [18:59] ooh source code pro looks nice [18:59] just switched to it now [19:01] theblazehen: if you're happy with your current tmux configuration, i wouldn't spend too much time on it [19:01] great :) [19:01] Hmm.. Need to find thin client software that support multi monitors [19:01] charl_: yeah [19:02] i'm quite a big screen multiplexing user, even though i use a tiling wm i don't actually tile much [19:02] heh, same here [19:02] i'm one of those people, i like to have one thing on my screen at a time [19:03] so what i do is i mostly use i3 in tabs mode [19:03] tabs mode? [19:03] and inside a terminal emulator i rapidly switch windows or whatever they are called again inside a terminal multiplexer [19:03] yeah meta+w [19:04] or whatever it was called again :) [19:04] i don't know what all these things are called i just use them :P lol [19:04] What I do is have a few browsers open each on a workspace, and then a few terminal multiplexers open on the other workspaces [19:04] yeah i love workspaces [19:04] currently have 3 tmux "windows", with "tabs" inside them [19:04] Dunno how to explain better [19:05] yeah lol [19:05]