[00:00] <jeremie> hello
[00:01] <dw1> GuyThatCrashed: i would do all but proposed updates
[00:01] <dw1> GuyThatCrashed: and the sources can be skipped too
[00:02] <dw1> GuyThatCrashed: and none of the 3rd parties. :)
[00:05] <madara> my version of cmake needs to be updated
[00:06] <madara> but when i try to update it is says i need the latest version
[00:06] <madara> i mean it says i have the latest version
[00:06] <jakew02> is anyone mounting a TimeCapsule drive in 14.04 ?
[00:06] <madara> do i need to download it directly?
[00:06] <madara> are my repositories fucked?
[00:06] <GuyThatCrashed> It worked thanks upgrading to 14.04
[00:08] <GuyThatCrashed> @madara If your repositories failed to download then you have to disable them
[00:14] <dw1> madara: what version of cmake do you need, and what version of ubuntu are you on?
[00:16] <Yelu> nmatrix9, dw1 solution is good. - here is a one liner for you: "mkdir mydir{01..20}"
[00:17] <dw1> Yelu: nice
[00:23] <madara> 4.8.4
[00:23] <madara> dw1:
[00:23] <madara> and im not sure what do i type into terminal to see what ubuntu ver i have?
[00:24] <ExWizzard> madara "lsb_release -a"
[00:28] <madara> im using 12.04
[00:33] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> http://imagebin.org/308235
[00:33] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Y IT DO THAT
[00:34] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> http://imagebin.org/308235
[00:35] <holstein> GuyThatNeedsHelp: are you asking a question?
[00:35] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Yes
[00:35] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> http://imagebin.org/308235
[00:35] <holstein> GuyThatNeedsHelp: it lists reasons..
[00:35] <rww> because your repositories are a mess because you broke things, probably. do-release-upgrade is usually more verbose
[00:35] <holstein> likely, some sources you installed, then changed packages.. then, the installer cant work properly
[00:36] <rawrmonster> GuyThatNeedsHelp: read this it seems to explain whats going on better and some logs to look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/360293/could-not-calculate-the-upgrade-what-happened
[00:36] <holstein> thats why i would backup, since you should regardless, and fresh install.. it would take much less time
[00:36] <Bludot> hello?
[00:37] <rypervenche> Bludot: Hi there.
[00:37] <Bludot> i need some help with a crappy desktop
[00:37] <rypervenche> Bludot: What problem(s) are you having?
[00:37] <Bludot> i believe it is my graphics now
[00:37] <Bludot> its a radeon hd 24000
[00:38] <Bludot> i got it to boot by using "nomodeset" instead of "quite splash"
[00:38] <Bludot> but I think it is using processor power for graphics
[00:38] <Bludot> on a single core processor, thats not pretty
[00:39] <Bludot> so... I tried to install the driver for it which epically failed
[00:39] <Bludot> also.. why does the graphics work great on the part where i "try" ubuntu?
[00:39] <Bludot> but not after I install?
[00:40] <holstein> Bludot: if you accept updates during installation, you could be getting an upgraded package that is not supported by your hardware
[00:40] <Bludot> i installed without updates
[00:40] <Bludot> i always do
[00:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> ran (grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log) and got a shit ton of broken files
[00:41] <treats> I was playing with networking and everytime I entered 'sudo service networking restart' my desktop would blink and become unusable.  I had to restart.  Having not learned my lesson, I tried again.  This time after a restart I can't login to my desktop.  I'm asked which profile to login to, and when I enter my password the screen blinks and nothing happens....
[00:42] <Bludot> lol
[00:42] <Bludot> had that too
[00:46] <madara> this compiling error says i need to get qmake 4.8.4
[00:46] <madara> apt-get install qt
[00:49] <Bashing-om> Bludot: The standard place to start trouble shooting is to pastebin -> sudo lshw -C display <- . see what card and driver is installed.
[00:49] <Bludot> ok..
[00:49] <Bludot> well im reinstalling cause it refused to boot
[00:50] <Bashing-om> Bludot: Yup, a prudent thing to do with a freash install that has problems, start all over fresh.
[00:53] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> is it a bad thing to be fat?
[00:53] <xum> yes.
[00:53] <xum> i believe it's detrimental to the cardiovascular system
[00:54] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I'm going to die soon because i'm fat i won't even be able to use ubuntu 14.04
[00:54] <holstein> GuyThatNeedsHelp: please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat.. thanks!
[00:55] <Bludot> lol
[00:56] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> @holstein you don't have the right to make fun of me because i'm fat! That's just rude of you
[00:57] <SyL> is anybody else having issues with mysql starting after going from 13.10 to 14.04? I did a fresh install and I'm having ibdata1 issues.
[00:57] <Bludot> what if you were skinny?
[00:57] <holstein> GuyThatNeedsHelp: i assure you im not making fun.. can i assist you with a support question?
[00:57] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Yes
[00:59] <Diamondcite> SyL: Did you do something similar to upgrade_db after the ubuntu update?
[00:59] <kingbeowolf> how can i use a .rdp file in ubuntu?
[01:00] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> rdp hmm
[01:00] <veryhappy> Hey guys, got a few questions about wifi and boot in ubuntu 14.04
[01:00] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I kinda don't wanna get on 14.04 now
[01:01] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> with all these errors
[01:01] <veryhappy> GuyThatNeedsHelp: i had to use it for now...
[01:02] <treats_> i'm trying to bridge my second (eth1) network cable to share with my laptop
[01:02] <treats_> anyone have a reliable hpw-to
[01:02] <treats_> also, I think I want to bridge.  I want my laptop to be able to plug into my computer and pull an IP from the router
[01:03] <veryhappy> first of all: i have a lenovo s205 ideapad netbook and i wonder why grub and lilo can't be installed, first i thought it would have to do something with efi but that can't be, because i had ubuntu 12.04 already installed without efi and with a normal mbr, but i kinda don't seem to get gpt off the harddisk to use the mbr again, how could i do that? i want to go back to ubuntu 12.04 with grub...
[01:03] <veryhappy> ...on mbr and not use gpt.
[01:03] <SyL> Diamondcite: no, what is that?
[01:04] <packet_> does anybody know how to fix the too many files open error while changing the mac address ?
[01:04] <KaltenLicht> Hi all. I made an ubuntu install with debootstrap but now I can't find the realtek 8168 driver. I've installed linux-firmware-nonfree but no good. What package do I have to install to get the driver?
[01:05] <kingbeowolf> how can i use a .rdp file in ubuntu?
[01:06] <veryhappy> kingbeowolf: try vinagre, it's for rdp and vnc also.
[01:08] <kingbeowolf> veryhappy: that only does VNC from what I can see
[01:09] <Bludot> ok... so my display is UNCLAIMED ?
[01:09] <owen1> i don't use gnome/unity. i 'rm -r Desktop' but after a while it keeps appearing. why???
[01:09] <xum> the ghost in the shell
[01:09] <rww> owen1: what /do/ you use?
[01:09] <owen1> (i start the session with i3)
[01:09] <owen1> rww: ^
[01:10] <owen1> sometime i run unity-control-center
[01:10] <owen1> but i start the session with i3
[01:10] <owen1> and i don't need this folder
[01:10] <veryhappy> kingbeowolf: You can use Tsclient to open the RDP files by default through Firefox. Or you could open the file with gedit and copy/paste the ip: port into rdesktop using RDP. In Tsclient, you may have to set it to use RDPv5.
[01:11] <rww> owen1: it's an xdg thing, i'm trying to remember how one configures it
[01:11] <kingbeowolf> veryhappy: it is a more complex RDP file i know that
[01:12] <tgm4883> On 13.10, I have bluetooth headphones that have a mic, but I can't select the Mic if I've selected the A2DP profile. Is there a config option somewhere for this?
[01:12] <veryhappy> tgm4883: try blueman
[01:12] <veryhappy> tgm4883: it should support A2DP profiles
[01:12] <veryhappy> afaik
[01:13] <tgm4883> veryhappy: I can try that, but I can select the A2DP profile in bluez, it's just when I do, the Mic isn't available
[01:13] <rww> owen1: install the package xdg-user-dirs if it isn't already installed, run xdg-user-dirs-update --set DESKTOP /home/owen1 or whatever
[01:14] <tgm4883> veryhappy: heh, just checked, already using blueman
[01:14] <veryhappy> try /sbin/alsa force-reload and try restarting pulseaudio
[01:23] <justpie_togo> Hey all. I tried to do a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04 which said it was successful. on reboot i get a black screen with a flashing cursor. Anyone have any ideas on what may have caused this?
[01:23] <asdaushi> hello
[01:25] <Bludot> hi
[01:27] <kapy_> hey i'm unable to install Euro Truck Simulator 2 on Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit
[01:28] <kapy_> hey i'm unable to install Euro Truck Simulator 2 on Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit
[01:28] <Bashing-om> justpie_togo: What results when at the black screen you do a key combo crl+alt+F1 ?
[01:29] <kapy_> wait a minute
[01:29] <justpie_togo> bashing-om : it doesn't do anything. it just sits there.
[01:30] <Yelu> kingbeowolf, you can use the built-in rdp client (Remmina Remote Desktop) to "Import" (app main menu) your .rdp files and make your RDP connections
[01:31] <Yelu> kingbeowolf, http://imgur.com/NDCiB1y
[01:31] <Bashing-om> justpie_togo: do ctl+alt+Prt-Scrn+r e i s u b .. to gracefully reboot, do you now get to the login screen ?
[01:32] <justpie_togo> Bashing-om : im sorry, am i reading this right? Bashing-om:  justpie_togo: do ctl+alt+Prt-Scrn+r e i s u b
[01:32] <p1ro> hi, i wonder if some1 can help me, i had wlan0(internet) and eth0 (lan) i want to keep wlan0 for internet and eth0 for lan, but eth0 should be able to access subnetworks.
[01:33] <justpie_togo> ctrl+alt+print screen?
[01:33] <kapy__> hey i'm back
[01:33] <Beldar> r e i s u b
[01:33] <kapy__> ctrl+alt+f1 didn't work
[01:34] <kapy__> it showed the same problem
[01:34] <Bashing-om> justpie_togo: Yeah .. while holding the keys ctl and alt and the Prt scrn (maybe your key says SsyRq) ,, also s l o w l y depress the keys in sequence r e i s u b .
[01:35] <kapy__> it shows the following message $ ./EuroTruckSimulator2.sh Verifying archive integrity... All good. Uncompressing Installer for Euro Truck Simulator 2.......... Uncompressing sub archiveWarning: No binaries for "x86_64" found, trying to default to x86... ................................................ Collecting info for this system... Operating system: linux CPU Arch: x86 Nixstaller version 0.5.1, Copyright (C) 2006 - 2009 of Rick H
[01:36] <justpie_togo> hum, not doing anything. just sitting at the cursor.
[01:37] <kapy__> hey i'm new to ubuntu so please tell me in detail
[01:38] <kapy__> hey i'm new to ubuntu so please tell me in detail
[01:38] <Bashing-om> justpie_togo: Not good !... opersting system not loaded ? .. keyboead not recognized  and graphics driver not loaded // humm .. lemme ponder a bit, maybe someone else has a better option that a hard shut down ( not a good thing !).
[01:40] <justpie_togo> The strange thing is that this a fresh install too. Maybe its an issue with my harddrive? ( grabbed a spare to attempt to get it working )
[01:41] <Bashing-om> justpie_togo: Well, if the drive is wired (sata ?) correctly, and bios sees the hard drive, shud pass it off to the boot manager, no prob;em.
[01:43] <Bashing-om> justpie_togo: Still think'n how to re-boot as graceful as possible. try the key combo ctl+alt+delete .. see what happens.
[01:44] <loa> what version of pulseaudio is ubuntu 14.04?
[01:44] <lotuspsychje> !info pulseaudio | loa
[01:44] <justpie_togo> bashing-om. I just held the power button. When i try to boot into 14.01 I don't' even get grub. its probably an issue w/ my hardware.
[01:45] <loa> lotuspsychje, 14.04 is trusty?
[01:45] <lotuspsychje> loa: yes
[01:45] <jack8z> :/whois zokko
[01:46] <Bashing-om> justpie_togo: Maybe.. boot the liveusb and pastebinit -> sudo fdisk -lu , sudo parted -l <- and let's see what the system sees.
[01:47] <justpie_togo> bashing-om  : ill give it a shot. booting up now.
[01:47] <lotuspsychje> loa: you can see your own installed version with apt-cache show pulseaudio
[01:48] <Bashing-om> justpie_togo: Gotta start trouble shooting somewhere, seeing that there is an install is a good place to start.
[01:48] <loa> lotuspsychje, i am on 13.10
[01:48] <lotuspsychje> !info pulseaudio saucy | loa
[01:48] <lotuspsychje> same
[01:48] <Bludot> ok,.. got an error: "could not insert 'fglrx': no such device
[01:49] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: do you have the right grafix card for fglrx driver?
[01:49] <Bludot> yes
[01:50] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: how are you trying to install?
[01:50] <Bludot> it does say that the modesetting isnt supported
[01:50] <Bludot> lotuspsychje: it is installed. but it wont load x
[01:51] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: did you install from additional drivers section?
[01:51] <Bludot> i used a program
[01:51] <Bashing-om> Bludot: Be aware AMD has dropped support for the 2X/3X/4X HD series of cards, there is not FGLRX drivers for them anymore.
[01:51] <Bludot> http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-amd-catalyst-install
[01:51] <Bludot> my integrated graphics is even older
[01:52] <Bludot> isnt there a vesa driver or somthing?
[01:52] <Bludot> also, was working perfectly fine on the "try demo" of the live ubuntu
[01:52] <Bludot> why not now?
[01:52] <Bashing-om> Bludot: Yeah the open source 'radeon' driver should load .
[01:52] <Bludot> but it doesnt
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: ubuntu version and grafix card chipset?
[01:53] <Bludot> ubuntu 14.04 and radeon hd 24000
[01:53] <nmatrix9> Good night everyone!
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: driver= shows in lshw -C video?
[01:55] <Bludot> it shows up there
[01:55] <Bludot> says "UNCLAIMED"
[01:55] <Bashing-om> Bludot: On this (re-)install, in that initial install screen did you choose to install updates while installing and as well install "3rd party software "??
[01:55] <Bludot> I chose to install 3rd party software
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: did you upgrade or clean install to 14.04?
[01:56] <Bludot> before I did that I installed with out any of those checked
[01:56] <Bludot> clean install
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: and no drivers show up in your 'additional drivers' section (software sources)?
[01:56] <Bashing-om> Bludot: A lot O do not know, but I bet the installer went hunting for that proprietary driver that does not exist.
[01:56] <Bludot> nope.. dont have access to that anymore anyways
[01:57] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: what do you mean no access
[01:57] <Bludot> well.. no GUI and i have no clue how to check for hardware via terminal
[01:58] <Bludot> omg.. aticonfig returns: no supported adapters detected wtf?
[01:58] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: maybe boot into grub/recoverymode/fix broken packages might help?
[01:58] <Bludot> ill try
[01:59] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: or retry install 'radeon' driver
[01:59] <packet_> exit
[01:59] <seamus_> Wont the driver in 14.04 be sufficient?
[01:59] <lotuspsychje> seamus_: he says driver doesnt load
[02:00] <seamus_> Clean install huh?
[02:00] <Bludot> yup
[02:00] <lotuspsychje> seamus_: yes, with 3rd party software enabled
[02:00] <lotuspsychje> !info fglrx
[02:00] <seamus_> Could it be a corrupt ISO?
[02:01] <Bludot> well.. no issues with the fixing packages
[02:01] <Bashing-om> Bludot: seamus_ the fallback driver in 14.04 is  llvmpipe, my opinion we need to install the opensource driver 'radeon'.
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: driver still shows here, but you mean older cards cant have support anymore?
[02:01] <seamus_> When I upgraded from 12.04, I used a clean install and it worked just fine.
[02:02] <seamus_> My laptop was purchased 2007. Using it right now.
[02:02] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: are you sure, you did setup with an internet connection and enabled 'updates during setup'?
[02:02] <seamus_> And I have the ATI Raedon card in it.
[02:02] <Bludot> this time with updates yes
[02:03] <seamus_> Hmmm.. That is odd.
[02:03] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: AMD bought out ATI, and a couple of years ago AMD dropped support for the 2X/3X/4X series of cards // yeah many of those cards are still on the shelves and many sold. no longer supported !
[02:03] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: tnx for info
[02:03] <Bludot> this is an old desktop
[02:04] <Bludot> back when windows xp first came out
[02:04] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: ubuntu brings rebirth to older systems :p
[02:04] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Hey, the more we know the more we can help.
[02:04] <seamus_> default driver in Ubuntu should handle that....
[02:04] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: very true :p
[02:04] <lotuspsychje> seamus_: same here radeon driver loaded by default
[02:05] <seamus_> Install from the ground up? Drive was nuked when started?
[02:05] <Bashing-om> Bludot: I say again, in my opinion ( there exist non-supported alternatives) the better thing to do is run the 'radeon' open source driver.
[02:06] <Bludot> how?
[02:06] <seamus_> I think you're right Bashing...
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> !info radeon | Bludot
[02:06] <krabador> !bot
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[02:06] <Bashing-om> Bludot: Gimme a bit to hunt up the routine.
[02:06] <Bludot> how for crying out loud
[02:07] <krabador> !info unity
[02:07] <Bludot> now i get corrupted low memory
[02:08] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: maybe xubuntu or lubuntu might run smoother on your old desktop?
[02:08] <seamus_> I'd be ready to drop kick the desktop by now... LOL
[02:09] <Bludot> seamus_: think it would hurt my foot more that the desktop
[02:09] <Bludot> well
[02:09] <seamus_> Yeah! they were built like brick shithouses back then :-)
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> seamus_: or install an ssd inside and lubuntu
[02:09] <Bludot> the crappy integrated graphics loads
[02:10] <Bludot> but its slower than...
[02:11] <Bludot> not usable at all
[02:11] <Bludot> ugh
[02:11] <Bludot> think ill give up
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: go check hardware requierments fro xubuntu and lubuntu
[02:11] <seamus_> Well, give it a break and try later. when you get frustrated, you never get anywhere.
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: if you match, go from there
[02:12] <Bludot> i definately match
[02:12] <Bludot> ok thanks
[02:12] <Bludot> will those give me the 14 version of ubuntu?
[02:12] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: the new trusty lubuntu and xubuntu are awesome yes
[02:12] <prth> set up an ubuntu 14.04 vm but menus are still shown on the topmost bar
[02:12] <Bludot> which one is lighter? lubuntu or xubuntu?
[02:13] <prth> Bludot: lubuntu
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: lubuntu might be lighter, but it really depends on your hardware aswell
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: i had a laptop running smoother on xubuntu then lubuntu once
[02:13] <Guest19608> lubuntu takes less ram. but you wont notice much of a difference. xfce is prettier and nicer i think
[02:13] <Guest19608> but we all like what we like :)
[02:14] <Bashing-om> Bludot: Lubuntu is the recommended version for "older" hardware.
[02:14] <Bludot> ok thanks
[02:14] <prth> set up an ubuntu 14.04 vm but menus are still shown on the topmost bar??
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> prth: maybe unity-tweak-tool can help you?
[02:15] <Guest19608> for lubuntu. panel is on bottom. but you can move to top easily if you want
[02:15] <Bashing-om> Bludot: When you install, do not install ith updates or 3rd party software, these can be added later.
[02:15] <ice9> when installing a lib from source using cmake, where to set CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX:PATH?
[02:15] <Guest19608> it has a mena like w indows cinnamon etc
[02:15] <Bludot> ok
[02:15] <Bludot> ugh
[02:15] <Bludot> 20 min to download it :/
[02:15] <Guest19608> i'd just youtube reviews or try virtual machine
[02:15] <seamus_> Yeah just go with a basic.
[02:15] <prth> lotuspsychje: but i thought it was default
[02:16] <lotuspsychje> prth: default shows menu i think
[02:16] <lotuspsychje> not sure
[02:17] <seamus_> Outa here...later
[02:17] <lotuspsychje> Bludot: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/whats-new-in-lubuntu-kubuntu-14-04
[02:19] <Jon30> need help reaaal bad. something's wrong with the socket in ubuntu when I am trying to post data with curl, but get works fine. for example this takes about 30 seconds: curl --data "param1=value1&param2=value2" http://www.google.com/recaptcha/api/verify
[02:20] <Jon30> nevermind.. i am wrong. doing curl http://www.google.com/recaptcha/api/verify takes forever... while curl www.google.com works fine. any ideas?
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> prth: step8: http://www.noobslab.com/2014/04/thingstweaks-to-do-after-install-of.html
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> Jon30: man curl?
[02:22] <Jon30> actually i am lying again... no matter which site I try with curl... it's really slow and takes about 30 seconds to load
[02:25] <Jon30> is there a reason why opening an external connection would take long? while i can access the server itself just fine
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> Jon30: http://askubuntu.com/questions/147377/how-to-debug-slow-browsing-speed
[02:29] <Jon30> lotuspsychje: thank you sir
[02:31] <wickedheadache> how do i fix this ? Err Upgrade tool signature                                                        404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]                                          Err Upgrade tool                                                                  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]                                          Fetched 0 B in 0s (0 B/s)                                                       WARNING:ro
[02:32] <lvfjf> How I set a uuid for a partition?
[02:32] <Bashing-om> wickedheadache: PPA not supported in 14.04 yet ?
[02:33] <wickedheadache> i'm on 11.10 trying to go to 12.4 like i did yesterday and the day before
[02:33] <tgm4883> wickedheadache: 11.10, yuck
[02:33] <wickedheadache> exactly
[02:34] <Jon30> lotuspsychje: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/16c051412b492c95d7eb hmm....
[02:34] <tgm4883> wickedheadache: you activated the eol repos?
[02:34] <wickedheadache> howw?
[02:34] <tgm4883> !eol | wickedheadache
[02:34] <wickedheadache> i added some lines
[02:35] <Bashing-om> wickedheadache: Then see : ->http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2151906 :D
[02:38] <triplc> hi all
[02:39] <triplc> do i need to wait for a newer kernel? after upgrade 12.04 to linux-generic-lts-trusty, i get error: nvidia: Unknown symbol acpi_os_wait_events_complete
[02:41] <triplc> after googling, i believe that currently linux-generic-lts-trusty does not work with nvidia. so do i need to stay with lts-saucy kernel and wait for a newer version of lts-trusty kernel
[02:42] <esaie> hello
[02:43] <dw1> triplc: no. dont do anything like that
[02:44] <Guest23735> Hello, does anyone have any idea why the application bar is hidden behind the top bar? http://i.imgur.com/eYYiZFC.png
[02:44] <dw1> triplc: should work fine with nvidia, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[02:44] <Guest23735> It happens w. a few apps
[02:44] <Guest23735> Its a fresh install of 14.04
[02:45] <bluezone> Guest23735, when a window is maximized the application bar merges with the top bar
[02:45] <Guest23735> how do I maximize it...
[02:45] <Guest23735> I dont have the application bar...
[02:46] <Guest23735> its not even in the top bar
[02:46] <bluezone> it is maximized
[02:46] <Guest23735> control for the app
[02:46] <Guest23735> nah its not
[02:46] <triplc> dw1: currently i have both nvidia-current and nvidia-current-updated installed (and i get the error nvidia: Unknown symbol  acpi_os_wait_events_complete
[02:46] <bluezone> oh
[02:46] <basketball> was ubuntu the first company to come up with the one device for all or converge
[02:47] <bluezone> try holding alt and moving the window
[02:47] <bluezone> alt + click and drag
[02:47] <Guest23735> that works
[02:48] <Guest23735> but how can I fix it?
[02:49] <bluezone> what is the problem exactly
[02:49] <dw1> triplc: hmm try removing them
[02:49] <bluezone> there's no application bar at all?
[02:49] <dw1> triplc: no errors on mine. first ive heard of it
[02:49] <triplc>  dw1: oh
[02:51] <chris_> hello all
[02:52] <Guest23735> bluezone, http://i.imgur.com/b3hBxJI.png
[02:52] <Guest23735> virt-manager is focused
[02:52] <Guest23735> the menu bar is hidden and I see home instead...
[02:52] <Guest23735> application bar
[02:53] <chris_> dont know if I am even in the right place but here's to trying.  I am a new linux user and installed (or tried to install WoW) the installation works, but it errors out when starting.. any good tips or tricks to getting this stuff to run correctly?
[02:53] <bluezone> yeah this is probably a particular problem with that application, try force closing and restarting it perhaps?
[02:53] <chris_> would hate to go to windows just to play a game
[02:54] <ylp> hello
[02:54] <bluezone> chris_, go to the wine channel
[02:54] <rww> ubottu: wine
[02:54] <Guest23735> bluezone, looks like it... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virt-manager/+bug/1307890
[02:54] <bluezone> yeah
[02:54] <clayton_d> hello
[02:55] <chris_> ty ppl
[02:55] <Jon30> does anybody know why it takes this long for my ubuntu server to open a connection to google.com or any server? i posted curl stats here: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/16c051412b492c95d7eb
[03:00] <dw1> Jon30: what if you do host <hostname> - is that slow?
[03:01] <Jon30> dw1: 1 sec
[03:01] <dw1> Jon30: if so then you got slow DNS servers
[03:01] <dw1> Jon30: try a bunch of diff domains
[03:02] <Jon30> dw1: nope. it takes  less than a second to do host.. i tried a few domain names
[03:02] <dw1> Jon30: what if you do telnet <webserver host> 80
[03:02] <Jon30> i'll try
[03:02] <dw1> Jon30: that's like a web connection
[03:03] <Jon30> dw1 isn't it the same as curl?
[03:03] <dw1> Jon30: should be
[03:03] <Jon30> dw1: it's taking forever...
[03:03] <dw1> Jon30: hmm
[03:03] <Jon30> dw1: did you see the stats i posted? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/16c051412b492c95d7eb
[03:03] <dw1> Jon30: wget is also like curl
[03:03] <dw1> Jon30: same problem with wget i guess
[03:03] <Yelu> Jon30, what's in your "@curl-timing.cfg"?
[03:04] <Jon30> dw1: telnet took about 60 seconds to open connection to google
[03:04] <dw1> Jon30: sounds like your isp is broken
[03:04] <Jon30> dw1 it's a vps hmmm...
[03:04] <Jon30> Yelu: 1 sec
[03:04] <Yelu> Jon30, ty
[03:04] <dw1> Jon30: you can do traceroute <host> to try to find a slow link in the connection chain
[03:05] <Jon30> Yelu: I used that guy's config: http://askubuntu.com/questions/147377/how-to-debug-slow-browsing-speed
[03:05] <Jon30> dw1: it takes less than 2 seconds for traceroute to complete
[03:05] <dw1> Jon30: what about telnet <host> 443 the ssl port
[03:07]  * Yelu reading ...
[03:07] <Jon30> dw1: equally slow
[03:08] <dw1> Jon30: what about telnet ubuntu.com 22 the ssh port
[03:08] <Jon30> dw1: much faster
[03:08] <Jon30> instant connection
[03:08] <dw1> Jon30: i think youve got a good case for bringing this to your provider's attention
[03:08] <dw1> Jon30: let them fix it :p
[03:08] <dw1> Jon30: hmm
[03:09] <dw1> Jon30: and telnet ubuntu.com 80 is slow ?
[03:10] <Jon30> dw1: actually it's fast.. hmmmmmmmmmm
[03:10] <dw1> Jon30: :-/
[03:10] <Jon30> dw1: curl www.google.com takes 60 seconds... and curl www.ubuntu.com takes less than a second
[03:12] <ice9> how to rebuild lib cache after installing a lib from source?
[03:12] <dw1> Jon30: id tell your provider because its a network issue
[03:13] <dw1> Jon30: not much you can do
[03:13] <Jon30> dw1: thank you for helping me narrow it down...
[03:14] <Jon30> :) :)
[03:17] <Yelu> Jon30, just for comparison (I think, dw1 is right.): http://i.imgur.com/awHf0z8.png
[03:26] <dw1> Jon30, Yelu: I did curl "http://www.google.com" and got a warning about terms of service.  it's possible google impairs connections through curl
[03:28] <dw1> Jon30, Yelu: sorry, the URL I used was http://www.google.com?search?q=test
[03:28] <dw1> Jon30, Yelu: with a slash in place of that first question mark :)
[03:29] <BCB> trying to get mod_rewrite enable in Apache2
[03:30] <BCB> Apache/2.4.9 (Ubuntu)
[03:30] <Yelu> Jon30, I'll try the correct URL - Just 1 sec., pls. (btw: I already had that thought of throttling down ...)
[03:30] <BCB> any hints
[03:30] <dw1> BCB: a2enmod rewrite;  /join #httpd  :)
[03:30] <Jon30> Yelu: it seems like my host has problem with ipv6.. so they told me to disable it for now
[03:31] <Tzunamii> BCB: if you have it installed: sudo a2enmod rewrite && sudo service apache2 restart
[03:31] <dw1> Jon30: seems like a canned response :)
[03:31] <Jon30> i just got no idea how to disable it lol
[03:32] <BCB> Tzunamii, did that but it is not showing up on the phpinfo list of loaded modules
[03:33] <dw1> Jon30: edit /etc/network/interfaces and comment out the IPv6 line, then ifdown and ifup the interface
[03:33] <Yelu> Jon30, fresh numbers => http://i.imgur.com/xROXSXT.png
[03:33] <dw1> Jon30: preferably both on one line
[03:34] <dw1> Jon30: like ifdown eth0; ifup eth0;
[03:34] <dw1> Jon30: no warranty you wont lose connection and have to reboot :P
[03:34] <Jon30> dw1: do i need to reboot afterwards?
[03:34] <Jon30> ahh
[03:34] <Jon30> thanks :)
[03:34] <dw1> Jon30: doubt it
[03:34] <Yelu> Jon30, I already switched of ipv6 completely
[03:35] <Yelu> *off
[03:37] <dw1> Jon30: i guess there will likely be multiple lines to comment out
[03:38] <Yelu> dw1, :)
[03:39] <dw1> Jon30: and if you comment any lines that say post-down and then restart the interface, should probably run those commands manually :)
[03:41] <Yelu> Jon30, url corrected => http://i.imgur.com/kLTEC19.png
[03:42] <dw1> Jon30: he mentioned more than google.com having the problem, so I guess it's not throttling
[03:42] <DQSII> why dosent vidalia-tor startup in 14.04
[03:42] <dw1> Yelu: ^
[03:42] <Yelu> dw1, got it
[03:43] <Yelu> Jon30, then its not the targets of curl, but something on the way to it.
[03:44] <Jon30> I just had to do echo 'precedence ::ffff:0:0/96 100' >> /etc/gai.conf
[03:44] <Jon30> that disabled the ipv6
[03:44] <Jon30> and it's working super fast now
[03:44] <Jon30> thanks for the support guys :D
[03:44] <Yelu> Jon30, lucky guy!
[03:45] <Yelu> Jon30, you gave me the cur-timing.cfg thing, so thank YOU.
[03:54] <dw1> Jon30: woohoo
[04:05] <ghostx562> hey guys i can't for the life of me find repositories that i added to ubuntu, is there something i am doing wrong?
[04:05] <rww> ghostx562: like, find in the filesystem?
[04:05] <ghostx562> rww, to remove them?
[04:05] <ghostx562> maybe a terminal command?
[04:05] <rww> ghostx562: they're probably listed in software sources
[04:05] <rww> !ppa-purge
[04:06] <rww> the actual config is in /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[04:06] <ghostx562> rww: thanks! is there a way to see which are not included by default so they can be removed?
[04:07] <ghostx562> or would all the files in there be something i added?
[04:07] <rww> ghostx562: everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is non-default. I believe all the various normal methods for adding PPAs do not touch /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:08] <rww> ghostx562: if you're not sure if you edited /etc/apt/sources.list yourself, you can copy it to a pastebin (e.g. http://paste.ubuntu.com/) and someone here can tell you if any of it is non-default
[04:08] <ghostx562> rww: let me copy and paste one sec, its only 2 or 3 that i can tell
[04:09] <ghostx562> this is what i have http://paste.ubuntu.com/7363806/
[04:09] <rww> ghostx562: right, everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is non-default stuff
[04:09] <rww> in addition to that, there is also the file /etc/apt/sources.list :)
[04:09] <rww> which is what i was saying to paste if you weren't sure
[04:09] <ghostx562> i did
[04:10] <ghostx562> i highlighted all files and copied and pasted to that website
[04:10] <rww> ghostx562: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is a directory, which you pasted. /etc/apt/sources.list is a file, which you didn't.
[04:10] <rww> note the .d/ on the end of the first one ;)
[04:10] <ghostx562> ah sorry.
[04:10] <rww> no problem, it's confusing
[04:11] <ghostx562> so you want me to paste the sources.list?
[04:11] <rww> ghostx562: if you're not sure if you changed it, yes
[04:11] <ghostx562> okay one sec.
[04:12] <ghostx562> open in gedit, then paste on that site?
[04:12] <rww> sure
[04:12] <ghostx562> think i got it http://paste.ubuntu.com/7363819/
[04:13] <rww> ghostx562: okays. /etc/apt/sources.list looks to be default. So if you wanted to remove the non-default stuff, you can just remove the ones you pasted earlier
[04:13] <rww> (probably best to use ppa-purge for that, see ubottu's earlier message)
[04:14] <ghostx562> ok
[04:14] <ghostx562> i don't remember the exact url i pasted, can i copy the names of the files see if it removes it?
[04:14] <rww> i'm about to go get food, but someone else here should be able to help with that if need be :)
[04:15] <ghostx562> rww: no worries, carry on. its no rush system works well as is
[04:16] <ghostx562> got it!
[04:18] <oneof3> hello. is there a command to update openvpn or does it auto update with the others?
[04:20] <holstein> oneof3: did you install it with the package manager from the default repos?
[04:25] <cody1> hi
[04:31] <owen1> is there a way to tell 'document viewer' to keep the settings when opening a new pdf? i am tired of unchecking 'continueous' etc.
[04:34] <Schnabeltierchen> if i chrooted an linux  with bootstrap, which folders from the host-os should i mount into the chrooted os? /proc /dev and?
[04:37] <mgolisch> Schnabeltierchen:  /sys
[04:37] <airtonix> use containers instead bro
[04:38] <Schnabeltierchen> airtonix what do you mean?
[04:38] <airtonix> docker makes this easy
[04:38] <airtonix> containers > chroot
[04:38] <airtonix> but then i don't even know what your situation is... but who cares! container all the things!
[04:40] <airtonix> Schnabeltierchen: http://serverfault.com/questions/543612/why-use-lxc-instead-of-chroot
[04:41] <airtonix> those two downsides are moot: 1. you can't run windows in a chroot on linux anyway... 2. there is docker
[04:41] <airtonix> http://docker.io/
[04:41] <Schnabeltierchen> i want to set up an multi-network-instantmessenger-logger/bouncer (no, bitlbee doesn´t suit my needs). so i set up an debian chroot (yes, i´m a traitor, i asked for support for debian in an ubuntu chan) on my synology nas to install prosody as an xmpp server and spectrum.im as gateways to icq, aim etc.
[04:42] <airtonix> seriously... look in to docker Schnabeltierchen
[04:43] <Schnabeltierchen> was googling for docker since you mentioned it
[04:43] <Schnabeltierchen> allready reading about it
[04:43] <Schnabeltierchen> the problem will be to install docker on my nas
[04:44] <airtonix> yeah, assuming you can do it though.
[04:44] <airtonix> heroku uses docker to slice up aws instances into the "workers" they provide you
[04:45] <hikaruBG> Hey guys
[04:46] <rezan> hi how do i install webex on ubuntu
[04:46] <hikaruBG> Anyone who could know why could Ubuntu 14.04 freeze?
[04:47] <hikaruBG> Gigabyte Main Board
[04:47] <hikaruBG> Intel i7 3rd Gen
[04:47] <hikaruBG> 16 GB Ram
[04:47] <hikaruBG> ASUS Nvidia 590 GTX EVGA Classified (dual Core) 3GB VRAM 768 Bit
[04:47] <hikaruBG> 1st SSD 256 GB
[04:47] <hikaruBG> 2nd HDD 2 TB
[04:47] <unopaste> hikaruBG you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[04:48] <rezan> hi how do i install webex on ubuntu
[04:49] <hikaruBG> Ok - sorry gor the paste earlier
[04:49] <hikaruBG> Ok - sorry for the paste earlier
[04:49] <hikaruBG> I just need help with the Ubuntu 14.04 Freeze problem
[04:49] <hikaruBG> anyone who can tell me where to fix it?
[04:49] <hikaruBG> how?
[04:50] <hikaruBG> this is my configuration: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7363940/
[04:53] <Barrin6> that's killer
[04:53] <Barrin6> how many thousands of dollars is that?
[04:54] <hikaruBG> 2500
[04:54] <Barrin6> hikaruBG,  are you getting an error log?
[04:54] <Barrin6> you install the right drivers?
[04:54] <hikaruBG> not much. Cant' run ubuntu straigtht though
[04:54] <hikaruBG> I CAN'T :) It freezes
[04:54] <hikaruBG> :)
[04:54] <junka> !info firefox
[04:55] <hikaruBG> !info freeze
[04:55] <hikaruBG> cool...
[04:55] <hikaruBG> :)
[04:56] <hikaruBG> guys I just need to know in which log to look for possible errors?
[04:56] <podo> q
[04:56] <hikaruBG> can anyone give me a tip?
[04:57] <hikaruBG> so I will know if the Videocard fails I could download the latest drivers and try install it through the Terminal
[04:58] <filadome> anyone know why this command doesn't work? sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk:i386
[04:59] <filadome> E: Unable to locate package openjdk-6-jdk
[04:59] <Barrin6> hikaruBG,  it might be best to post in the forums to be honest
[04:59] <hikaruBG> Barrin6, Where to look for the error log? Where is it located?
[04:59] <holstein> !java | filadome
[04:59] <SDr> hello ubuntu people, doing a clean-slate VPS setup for an ubuntu+php+nginx+php-fpm+mysql combo production-app on a linode 4096. Question: 12.04, or 14.04?
[04:59] <hikaruBG> Barrin6, I have posted there.
[04:59] <hikaruBG> Still waiting
[04:59] <hikaruBG> :)
[04:59] <holstein> filadome: you are running "sudo apt-get update" ? correct?
[05:00] <Barrin6> oh okay
[05:00] <Barrin6> good luck
[05:00] <filadome> holstein, hikaruBG: i ran the update
[05:00] <Barrin6> hikaruBG, if you don't mind me asking, what do you use the heavy gfx card for?
[05:00] <filadome> i want to use Hadoop and it requires the 32-bit JVM
[05:01] <filadome> when I try to install it, it cannot be located
[05:01] <longbonglungfish> does anyone know the story with trusty and encrypted swap? is anything being done to fix it (the fact that trusty fails to utilize encrypted swap space, whether set up during install or manually afterwards)? i'm stuck on 13.10 because the ten times i've upgraded even with a fresh install, ubuntu cannot utilize an encrypted swap partition.
[05:02] <hikaruBG> I have 3D Design Software that I use in Windows. 3D Studio MAX and Maya, Auto Cad...
[05:02] <hikaruBG> it reduces the render time
[05:02] <hikaruBG> and I need Linux for my development work
[05:02] <hikaruBG> sooo.....
[05:02] <holstein> filadome: i dont use ppa's much, but i sometimes do for java, to get the latest http://www.enqlu.com/2014/03/how-to-install-oracle-java-78-jdk-and.html
[05:02] <hikaruBG> I MUST make it work
[05:02] <hikaruBG> somehow... sometime
[05:02] <hikaruBG> :)
[05:03] <holstein> filadome: personally, i think you are just referring to it incorrectly. you can try searching.. apt-cache search java.. or using something like synaptic to get the correct package name
[05:03] <crizis> holstein: openjdk
[05:04] <hikaruBG> Barrin6, is that answers the question?
[05:04] <holstein> crizis: be sure you direct your java related reponses to filadome
[05:04] <Barrin6> hikaruBG, yes. I'm just super jelly as you can tell :D
[05:05] <crizis> filadome: you can install openjdk from the repos, no need to install "official" oracle jdk
[05:05] <filadome> well, this command works: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk:amd64
[05:05] <filadome> not sure why the i386 version doesn't work
[05:05] <crizis> why would you install 32bit, exactly
[05:05] <holstein> filadome: you are on a 64bit system
[05:06] <holstein> filadome: i would just try what you are trying to do with the 64bit verion installed
[05:06] <filadome> hadoop is producing an error message when I run hdfs dfs -ls
[05:06] <crizis> that has for 100% sure nothing to do with 32/64bit
[05:07] <filadome> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: You have loaded library /home/hadoop/hadoop/lib/native/libhadoop.so.1.0.0 which might have disabled stack guard.
[05:07] <crizis> sudo execstack -c /usr/local/hadoop/lib/native/libhadoop.so.1.0.0
[05:08] <glen_c> hi im looking for help with running linux on rk3188 devices
[05:08] <hikaruBG> Barrin6, thanks! I am happy when someone appreciates my efforts. :) Now if you can give me a hint... :) I will appreciate it!
[05:08] <crizis> filadome: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/malhar-users/WeFvgv1grik
[05:09] <hikaruBG> crizis, I read your comment about openjava vs Oracle Java. I would use always Oracle.
[05:09] <filadome> is execstack something I have to install?
[05:10] <hikaruBG> I am not sure about the difference, but I think since Oracle develop Java, it would be worthed the efforts to have their copy.
[05:11] <crizis> hikaruBG: openjdk is built out of official java sources... duh
[05:11] <crizis> hikaruBG: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/community/opensourcejdk-jsp-136417.html
[05:11] <hikaruBG> excuse my incompetence. :) As I said - I don't know the difference
[05:12] <hikaruBG> I use Oracle Java 8 currently on my Laptop.
[05:13] <fobelx> i want man pages for libusb functions. how can i obtain them?
[05:13] <fobelx> i already installed libusb-dev
[05:17] <long> 哈喽
[05:18] <long> 还有其他的中国人吗
[05:19] <long> i'm a chinese
[05:19] <long> helle
[05:19] <long> hello
[05:19] <long> anybody there
[05:23] <malkauns> i aint afraid of no ghost!!
[05:25] <alre> hi, I just installed win7 and ubuntu in different partitions but when I login to windows, there is a strange (system reserved)partition like this http://upload7.ir/imgs/2014-04/43873776459440815945.png
[05:26] <alre> what went wrong ?
[05:27] <blippe> @alre, that is normal. It is usually hidden. It is like the /boot partition but for windows
[05:29] <beltorak> hi all; i am trying to configure pam_time.so; what are the "service names" for time.conf?
[05:29] <alre> @blippe what do I do to hide it again ?
[05:30] <alre> I think Boot Repair from ubuntu did this to it
[05:34] <sara_> Hello. I'm setting up my neice's old laptop with ubuntu. the thing is it was running an outdated lubuntu before. it seems 14.04 ubuntu can run fine on it now better then before, but last night it got pretty hot quickly. my cpu seems to be fine and the speed doesn't seem that different from lubuntu. but I'm wandering if ubuntu maybe to much on this laptops very outdated graphics card. videos play fine even at 720p. deffinately not at 1080. and fu
[05:34] <sara_> llscreen on youtube lags pretty bad no matter what the resolution. should I just leave ubuntu on here since I set her laptop up with some pretty fun ubuntu features or go with lubuntu?
[05:39] <xangua> Xubuntu is a balanced option between resources and features if that helps
[05:44] <sara_> xangua, I've tried xubuntu and for some reason I found I liked lubuntu better. unless compiz works out of the box and doesn't require freaking terminal commanding the gui. processes seem fine so far on here. just worried unity will break this things graphics. Intel® 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2
[05:54] <sara_> so I was wandering. as far as laptops are concerned is the default power managment on ubuntu 14.04 good now or is tlp is still better?
[05:56] <llutz> sara_: i don't see any real difference in plain 14.04 vs tlp on an old thinkpad x200 here.
[05:57] <ubuntu__> anne
[05:59] <sara_> llutz, I'm running ubuntu 14.04 on dell latitude d510. They did an awsome job with this lts. I'm hoping it won't burn out this old thing though. Had an outdated lubuntu on it before. its for my niece. I think unity is perfect but concerned. it heats up fast while charging
[06:02] <Gannon> have you tried xubuntu 14.04 sara_ ?
[06:03] <doomlord__> do any linux window managers support seperate desktops per monitor
[06:03] <sara_> Gannon, I've tried xubuntu. unless I can use compiz out of the box without going to terminal and commanding a hack in the gui I am not that interested. Frankly I liked the speed in lubuntu. but if I can easily animate xubuntu that be cool too. I like unity's desktop otherwise.
[06:04] <somsip> doomlord__: define what you mean by separate desktops
[06:04] <Gannon> i think he meant 1desk per monitor
[06:04] <doomlord__> independant desktops might be a better term: when you switch desktops, it only affects the monitor you issue that on
[06:04] <doomlord__> so basically each monitor has its own list of desktops, and they can be switched independantly
[06:05] <somsip> doomlord__: by desktops, do you mean workspaces? If so, I know awesomewm does this, and there are others
[06:05] <sara_> Gannon, I've gotten spoiled with hot corner features and I imagine my niece would too. this generation is spoiled. I don't want to give her something she would look at as a peace of crap. But this is her first computer
[06:05] <Gannon> i think gnome3 has pretty good desktop-monitor cuztomization. Look into it doomlord
[06:05] <doomlord__> "workspaces" yes (virtual desktops)
[06:05] <doomlord__> ah i havent tried gnome 3  in ages
[06:05] <doomlord__> i was offput initially by that, maybe i'm missing out :)
[06:06] <doomlord__> currently i favour xfwm
[06:06] <somsip> doomlord__: there are so many terms in use it's tricky. With awesomewm you can assign a screen to a monitor, and switch between screens and monitors, move windows between screens, etc. Othe tiling WMs do this too AIUI
[06:06] <somsip> *Other
[06:06] <doomlord__> awesome, i have tried it, i *like* the idea of tiling window managers, but always go back to floating. I get best of both because I use tiling within emacs - its got great navigation with 'windmove'
[06:07] <Gannon> oh yeah i totally get tht sara, ive set up a laptop for a friends son, 14 yo kid, he loved the fire effects so much he asked his dad (my friend) to hook it up to the TV lol
[06:07] <doomlord__> i know awesomewm has something not quite like desktops which is actually more versatile (tags or somethign , it calls it ? .. the same window can be on multiple tags..)
[06:08] <somsip> doomlord__: yep - that's it. Maybe not quite as general as you want (though you can set screens to be floating in awesome) but thought I'd mentionit
[06:08] <doomlord__> yeah more information is welcome.
[06:09] <doomlord__> another intersting idea would be if there was a single list of workspaces, but each monitor could be independantly switched through that list.
[06:10] <doomlord__> i was always interested in that but just got a mac and found apple have done this.. its really nice.. but i'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to add to a linux window manager
[06:11] <Gannon> cant wait for the "Mir VS Wayland" battle!!
[06:12] <trilli> ciao
[06:12] <trilli> !list
[06:13] <trilli> channel for film
[06:13] <somsip> trilli: can I ask - why did you koing this channel?
[06:13] <somsip> *join
[06:14] <llutz> somsip: we will never find out :(
[06:15] <somsip> llutz: one day we will learn the secret of the italian file sharers...
[06:18] <sara_> ok I'm going to follow your guy's advice. I will download xubuntu 14.04 before I judge it. Lubuntu 14.04 looks about the same anyway
[06:22] <mk001> Getting root access using this way - sudo passwd root,entering the new password and getting root by using the su command.Is it ok?
[06:23] <Kartagis> mk001: that's a no no
[06:23] <somsip> mk001: use sudo, or if you really need an interactive shell, su -i
[06:23] <Kartagis> mk001: use sudo <command>
[06:23] <somsip> *sudo -i
[06:23] <llutz> !root | mk001
[06:25] <mk001> but that's working for me
[06:25] <llutz> mk001: that's not the point, its not supported here *period*
[06:25] <mk001> ok,thanks
[06:27] <Kartagis> I've been googling this for days, asking here and in ##linux for days, but can't find a solution. how to force my graphics card to use the i915 driver? lsmod lists is, modprobe i915 probes it (I think) but lspci -k still doesn't list it.
[06:28] <ikonia> Kartagis why are you using lspci -k ?
[06:28] <ikonia> Kartagis: what are you trying to get it to use the kernel module or the xorg module ?
[06:29] <Kartagis> ikonia: I was suggested by I don't remember who
[06:29] <ikonia> what's the problem you are trying to actually fix
[06:30] <liw_> 中文怎么？进
[06:30] <Kartagis> ikonia: my gfx card plays any video in slow motion
[06:30] <ikonia> Kartagis: what video card is it ?
[06:30] <Kartagis> !cn | liw_
[06:30] <Kartagis> ikonia: intel integrated
[06:30] <ikonia> Kartagis: right, but what model/chipset
[06:32] <Kartagis> ikonia: I don't know about that, the laptop is not with me. I could have ssh'd in, but it's down
[06:32] <ikonia> ok, so doing anything else until you know what you're dealing with is a waste of time
[06:33] <Kartagis> ikonia: doing a lspci -k on a livecd lists i915 under the card whereas it's not listed on live system.
[06:34] <ikonia> Kartagis: again, until we have information it's pointless to continue
[06:34] <Kartagis> okay, I'll bug you on Friday
[06:34] <Kartagis> thanks anyway
[06:34] <ikonia> just ask the channel
[06:38] <FredddyTom> hey i need to draw flow charts and diagrams
[06:38] <FredddyTom> what software can i use?
[06:38] <llutz> !info dia |FredddyTom:
[06:40] <Joe856> I'm getting an unmet dependencies error when I try to preform almost any action with the package manager.
[06:40] <Joe856> http://pastebin.com/YwfCh87t
[06:41] <hillary> my ubuntu  has issues with low graphics
[06:41] <Joe856> Package manager reports a broken cache
[06:41] <hillary> every time i start i issue sudo service gdm start
[06:42] <hillary> what could be the issue?
[06:43] <llutz> Joe856: sudo apt-get clean & sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[06:43] <Joe856> I've tried that, unfortunately I'm still getting errors.
[06:44] <Joe856> I will attempt in the suggested order though.
[06:44] <llutz> Joe856: pastebin "apt-cache policy libqt4-declarative" please
[06:45] <Joe856> http://pastebin.com/zANa8pxs
[06:46] <Joe856> I do notice there is a large hang in getting the headers in apt-get update (seems stuck at 98%)
[06:50] <somsip> So if apt-get policy only shows the currnet version for a package (FF 29.0 in this case), is there any way I can downgrade to 28.0?
[06:50] <somsip> *apt-cache policy...
[06:51] <llutz> somsip: if 28 is not shown in the version table, no
[06:51] <somsip> llutz: bum. Looks like I've lost selenium on FF *again* :(
[06:52] <hillary> any help on my issue guys
[06:58] <Joe856> I managed to find the Broken Dependencies. I'm trying to remove them so they can be re-installed.
[06:58] <vedic> How to add terminal emulator to panel? and also firefox?
[06:59] <vedic> I am using lubuntu on 12.04
[07:01] <Yelu> hikaruBG, just stumbeled upon this (which may help you): 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze - 2. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze
[07:02] <Yelu> hikaruBG, correction: 2. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[07:03] <any> Starting web server apache2
[07:03] <any> Action 'start' failed.
[07:03] <any> The Apache error log may have more information.
[07:04] <any> help me to resolve this error
[07:04] <somsip> any: tail -f /var/log/apache/error.log in a terminal, then start apache again
[07:07] <zetheroo1> strange issue with NFS - using 14.04 - I can mount the share but cannot list the contents of the mount location .. I get "ls: cannot open directory .: Permission denied"
[07:08] <bazhang> !nfs > zetheroo1
[07:08] <FredddyTom> ubutto: oh very nice
[07:08] <FredddyTom> works pretty well
[07:13] <zetheroo1> bazhang: was there some major changes in how to setup an NFS export since 12.04.4? - Because it was really simple and it seems what worked then is not really working now ... I basically installed nfs-kernel-server and then copy/pasted the exports (into /etc/exports) and mounts (into /etc/fstab) from the 12.04.4 system into the 14.04 system ... this is all that needed doing in 12.04.4 - and it worked great!
[07:14] <trijntje> zetheroo1: did you install nfs-common on the client?
[07:16] <zetheroo1> trijntje: Yes, as nfs-common is installed automatically when nfs-kernel-server is installed
[07:16] <helmut_> hi
[07:18] <FredddyTom> how can i mount drives via ssh?
[07:18] <llutz> FredddyTom: read about sshfs
[07:18] <FredddyTom> cool
[07:19] <MaxFrames> hello
[07:19] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS FredddyTom
[07:19] <trijntje> zetheroo1: why did you install nfs-kernel-server on the pc that mounts the nfs?
[07:19] <gartral> hey all, i'm in a jam with my desktop, the UI is locking up during any event that causes IO thrashing, plenty of ram+swap free and it's acting like it's out of memory.. what can I about this?
[07:19] <llutz> FredddyTom: or do you want to mount drives local on remote machines? "sudo mount /dev /mountpoint"
[07:19] <MaxFrames> in ubuntu based distributions, what's the way to make so that a certain command is executed _before_ the user logs in (so that its effects can be seen in the logon screen session)? specifically, I need to specify a keyboard layout for the logon screen
[07:20] <FredddyTom> llutz: remote machines
[07:20] <FredddyTom> so my machine to my collegues
[07:20] <zetheroo1> trijntje: because it also exports - it does both ... imports and exports ... - was never an issue in 12.04 ...
[07:21] <trijntje> zetheroo1: can you show the output for the mount command? And does your pc still have the IP adress that you set in /etc/export on the server?
[07:21] <FredddyTom> got sshfs was easy
[07:21] <FredddyTom> 1 minute
[07:21]  * exported feels popular suddenly :D
[07:21] <exported> much talk of export :D
[07:23] <llutz> MaxFrames: use "Option Xkbdlayout   your-layout" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/60-personal.conf
[07:23] <zetheroo1> trijntje: The last line is the mount I am interested in - and the exports/imports are using hostnames not IP's http://paste.ubuntu.com/7364574/
[07:24] <Xano> I want my 13.10 machine to make incremental backups to my Synology NAS. I kept getting "permission denied" errors using Ubuntu's built-in backup tool, and then I decided writin my own rsync commands might be better, since I want the backups to work when I am outside my private netwerk (e.g. when travelling) as well. What jargon do I need to search for in order to find information about mounting local network disks and 'internet' shares (eit
[07:24] <Xano> her SFTP, or by first establishing a VPN) to the same mount point?
[07:24] <Xano> Or can anyone recommend a good resource that explains this?
[07:24] <trijntje> zetheroo1: is the hostname still the same?
[07:25] <llutz> Xano: look ar rsnapshot, you only need ssh- and write-access to your NAS for it
[07:25] <zetheroo1> trijntje: yes, the hosts can ping one another using hostnames
[07:26] <llutz> at*
[07:26] <Xano> llutz, Noted. Thanks. On top of backups I will also need a usable way to restore my data
[07:26] <Xano> Which I forgot to ask about in my original question
[07:26] <llutz> Xano: rsync, scp, sftp
[07:27] <zetheroo1> trijntje: and the mounting works ... it just doesn't seem to be authenticating fully/properly ...
[07:27] <gj> Need advanced help on NetManager  internals: I have to run a script before the dhclient starts. Howto archive this?
[07:28] <trijntje> zetheroo1: weird, what about sudo ls /mnt/neptune?
[07:28] <zetheroo1> trijntje: in my /var/log/syslog I see this ... don't know if it has something to do with it ...
[07:28] <zetheroo1> Apr 30 09:25:22 mars kernel: [58604.840238] RPC: AUTH_GSS upcall timed out.
[07:28] <zetheroo1> Apr 30 09:25:22 mars kernel: [58604.840238] Please check user daemon is running.
[07:28] <llutz> gj not sure if scripts in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d  oculd do that
[07:29] <Xano> llutz, Perhaps I should have said "user friendly" :P Let's see how rsnapshot stores my data first. Thanks!
[07:29] <zetheroo1> trijntje: I am logged in as root (please don't ask why etc ... ;-)) ...
[07:30] <gj> llutz: Inside the main script it is stated, that the pre/post-if phase is not implemented. I'd checked this - it's true.
[07:31] <llutz> gj: oh, time they finish that stuff
[07:33] <gj> llutz: In an older version of Ubutu i replaced  /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action by a script doing my action an then call a copy of the original. But now, it's appamored.
[07:34] <gj> llutz: Therefore: Howto hook the NetManager action phases?
[07:34] <llutz> gj: i don't know
[07:36] <trijntje> zetheroo1: in that case I don't really know what the problem might be, sorry
[07:37] <zetheroo1> trijntje: ok, thanks anyway ;)
[07:37] <gj> llutz: Thanx. Found #nm, will try there.
[07:38] <abdel> hello guy, I heard that the new ubuntu 14.04 if you hold the enter key for 30 seconds it bypasses the login screen which makes it vulnerable how true is this please
[07:38] <sara_> ok so I'm taking a leap and install xubuntu on this old latitude d510 for my niece. I see it definately takes a little less cpu resources then unity. I'm hoping I won't regret making this jump. unity ran fairly well on here. The new custom settings on xubuntu peaked my curiousity.
[07:38] <Epru> I..highly doubt its that simple.
[07:40] <Epru> Anyone heard of BYOND?
[07:40] <trijntje> abdel: sounds like nonsense, why don't you try it out?
[07:41] <abdel> yeah thats why am scared and decided to ask you guys for advice
[07:41] <abdel> if there are no security bridges then should i go ahead
[07:41] <gartral> sara_: I run Ubuntu Studio on a few of my comps and I can tell you this much.. well there are a *few* minor annoyances xubuntu should be fine and faster than regular ubuntu on a d150
[07:43] <abdel> any body help
[07:43] <bazhang> abdel, with what
[07:43] <zamba> what does "Connection discarded by broker" mean? related to ssh?
[07:43] <llutz> abdel: _that_ bug was fixed
[07:43] <sarmiena_> : i'm trying to add another node to my ocfs2 cluster, but current nodes are reporting "o2net: Attempt to connect from unknown node at 10.25.250.22:35507"
[07:44] <sara_> gartral, thank you very much. I love unity on my main laptop but this is an older machine. And I worry that unity might overheat the graphics or something. The bottom of this laptop gets hot fast while charging wither its touching an object or not. And so far xfce seems to be taking less power then unity too
[07:44] <sarmiena_> it's currenly a 2-node cluster stack, and trying to add a third
[07:44] <abdel> i want to know if there are security breaches and some flaws in ubuntu 14.04
[07:45] <llutz> abdel: there are, for sure, just not discovered yet. as in any other OS too
[07:45] <gartral> sara_: there's also a fallback unity that doesn't eat the GPU alive
[07:45] <gartral> abdel: none known at this point
[07:46] <abdel> okay thanks guys will try it out and see
[07:46] <sara_> gartral, I saw that. gnome shell. Tried to install it but it crashed. started to act real slow and eratating. Maybe 14.04 still don't support it? I don't know. I have playyed with it before to and I did like it
[07:48] <Shai29> Hello, I installed windows7 on my laptop and everything works fine, and later on I installed Ubuntu LTS, and now when the computer start I get message: BOOTMGR is Missing any idea how to solve this?
[07:48] <sara_> gartral, oh wait. They have a seperate iso. might have to download it and give it a whirl. lol.
[07:48] <hillary> help me get rid of the problem "The system is running in low-graphics" ubuntu 12.04
[07:48] <gartral> sara_: no, not gnome shell Unity fallback
[07:48] <DEA7TH> Firefox got broken when I updated to Ubuntu 14. Now it won't restore tabs from last session
[07:49] <gartral> hillary: you need to install your graphics drivers
[07:50] <sara_> gartral, oh ok. well I like the new gnome shell too. wow and I already replaced ubuntu with xubuntu XD
[07:51] <Shai29> Hello,does someone know how I can fix the  "BOOTMGR is Missing" error?
[07:52] <hillary> how do install plz help
[07:52] <hillary> i have tried but in vain
[07:52] <CornishPasty> Shai29: That's a windows error... Try choosing a different partition?
[07:52] <CornishPasty> Err, choose a different hard drive to boot from*
[07:52] <trijntje> Shai29: probably easiest to boot from usb/dvd again, delete the ubuntu partitions and start the installation again
[07:52] <Shai29> trijntje: there is no way to fix without reinstall ubuntu?
[07:53] <trijntje> Shai29: I'm sure there is, but installing only takes 30 minutes or so so I'd try that first
[07:53] <trijntje> maybe also check the disk for defects before you start the installation to make sure the image is  correct
[07:53] <trijntje> (hold shift during boot to enter the cd menu)
[07:54] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|Shai29 1. md5sum the ISO   2. md5sum the USB boot media
[07:55] <lazysod> q
[07:58] <sara_> gartral, anyway thanks for the  help :]. now i know there are other options
[07:59] <zetheroo1> ok, so coming back to this NFS issue ... the before-mentioned issue was with this configuration: host 'neptune' exporting to host 'mars' - Now I tried the reverse: host 'mars' exporting to host 'neptune' ... and it WORKS! Both hosts are 14.04 (fresh installs - not upgrades) and both have had nfs-kernel-server installed.
[08:02] <shai29> Hello, I've some problem with my Ubuntu I get the next message: bootmgr is missing. now I would like to reinstall ubuntu but to backup the data before so I used the LIVECD but my home directory is Encrypted, how I can access the home folder? (I know the Encryption code but dont know how to apply it from the LIVECD)?
[08:03] <hillary> any help on how to install graphics in ubuntu 12.04
[08:03] <hillary> am defeated
[08:03] <hillary> i still get the error
[08:04] <sample> sdsadsadas
[08:06] <abdel> somebody said hi
[08:07] <abdel_> how secured is 14.04
[08:07] <abdel_> i want to upgrade but quite scared that some old stuff wont work
[08:07] <cfhowlett> antivirus|abdel
[08:07] <abdel_> like restore from last session of firefox
[08:08] <cfhowlett> abdel use LTS then - 12.04
[08:08] <abdel_> cfhowlett>>.how do u mean antivirus
[08:08] <abdel_> already i have 13.10 running
[08:08] <k1l_> abdel: that should all work
[08:08] <cfhowlett> !virus| abdel
[08:09] <abdel_> @cfhowlett: how do u mean i should use LTS 12.04 when i already have 13.10
[08:09] <abdel_> @kil: how do u mean
[08:09] <cfhowlett> abdel 13.10 will fall out of support soon.  either upgrade to 14.04 or find a new OS
[08:10] <k1l_> abdel: version upgrades get automated testing. they work if you did not add too much 3rd party software
[08:10] <abdel_> hmmm........i will upgrade but hope no issue with 14.04
[08:10] <troulouliou_dev> hi since i migrated to 14.04 ican not boot ubuntu on uefi anymore on my dell M6700 dual boot win 8.1
[08:11] <troulouliou_dev> it keeps booting to win8; all the files are there
[08:11] <abdel_> okies thanks
[08:14] <shai29> Hello, I've some problem with my Ubuntu I get the next message: bootmgr is missing. now I would like to reinstall ubuntu but to backup the data before so I used the LIVECD but my home directory is Encrypted, how I can access the home folder? (I know the Encryption code but dont know how to apply it from the LIVECD)?
[08:15] <zetheroo1> bazhang: I had a look through the doc you mentioned ... but could not find anything pertaining to my issue ...
[08:16] <sharkz> @shai29: I think you could just reinstall a new ubuntu and mount you existing home dir without formating it.
[08:16] <llutz_> shai29: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live_CD_method_of_opening_a_encrypted_home_directory
[08:32] <parv> Hello Geeks!
[08:32] <sharkz> World, parv!
[08:33] <parv> Lol
[08:33] <hillary> what is the command for creating a file in ubuntu 12.04
[08:33] <parv> hello penth
[08:33] <somsip> hillary: touch {file}
[08:33] <parv> vim <filename>
[08:33] <hillary> ok
[08:33] <parv> or touch <filename>
[08:33] <parv> or gedit <filename>
[08:34] <parv> actually vi <filename>
[08:35] <parv> hello kapad
[08:35] <parv> hello DasEi
[08:38] <cfhowlett> hillary https://www.dropbox.com/s/4llta2df2fb9lss/LinuxCheatSheet.pdf
[08:38] <hillary> thanks
[08:39] <Seditio> this might also help, http://explainshell.com/
[08:43] <Smrtz> Hey, is it possible to have my computer connected via ethernet, and also scan for and connect to wireless networks, and make the computer act as a bridge between the two/
[08:43] <Smrtz> ?*
[08:47] <bibi234> Hello, I've just received an e-mail with a pishing website, how can I report it? Usually I find the domain name registrar with the whois command but this one is directly using an IP adress in the URL, how can it be reported?
[08:50] <amitprakash> ec
[08:51] <amitprakash> How do I go about getting gnome 3.12 on ubuntu 14.04
[08:52] <Poseidonus7> hello
[08:52] <Poseidonus7> I want to set my ubuntu web server, what do I need
[08:52] <Poseidonus7> ubuntu desktop or ubuntu server
[08:52] <Poseidonus7> version of ubuntu
[08:52] <geirha> !ics | Smrtz
[08:53] <dw1> bibi234: http://compnetworking.about.com/od/traceipaddresses/g/bldef-whois.htm
[08:53] <Poseidonus7> please tell me what is better to set cloud for my webpage
[08:53] <Smrtz> geirha, thanks, but I'm trying to bridge a connection between two diffrent networks.
[08:53] <dw1> Poseidonus7: you can use either desktop or server
[08:54] <dw1> Poseidonus7: both will run apache2 web server
[08:54] <Poseidonus7> dw1:where is differnce betrween server or desktop
[08:54] <geirha> Smrtz: How is that different?
[08:54] <dw1> Poseidonus7: essentially, and im just guessing, the servers are almost the same but dont contain graphical interface
[08:54] <Smrtz> I'm not sharing my internet to a device with no network, I'm connecting to two devices across two diffrent networks.
[08:55] <dw1> Poseidonus7: server will also possibly have some other config stuff going on, like automated security updates
[08:55] <parv> yes that's true, i agree
[08:55] <Poseidonus7> what about ubuntu cloud, is this also for my web page host
[08:56] <simon72> ciao
[08:56] <parv> do ubuntu cloud have a gui?
[08:56] <simon72> !list
[08:56] <dw1> I don't know what ubuntu cloud is :-
[08:56] <gry> I started update manager, it downloaded some, but I stopped it before it finished downloading. Where did it download to?
[08:56] <parv> your hard disk
[08:57] <zetheroo1> I also tried doing 'mount.nfs4 neptune:/mnt/neptune/ /mnt/neptune/' but I get this in response: 'mount.nfs4: mounting neptune:/mnt/neptune/ failed, reason given by server: No such file or directory'
[08:57] <gry> parv: more specifically where to on it?
[08:57] <parv> ext4 partition
[08:57] <geirha> Smrtz: you want machine A in subnet 1 to be able to connect to machine B in subnet 2 using your computer as gateway between them, right?
[08:57] <lisak> hey, to change ramdisk and linux in grub2, is it sufficient  to add entry to /etc/grub.d/40_custom and run update-grub ?
[08:57] <gry> parv: I'm looking for something more specific, you understand. I have only one partition...
[08:57] <zetheroo1> So no idea what's going on ... :P
[08:57] <lisak> cause it doesn't take effect
[08:58] <lisak> on restart
[08:58] <hillary> am using craphics mobile intel GM 45 Express chipsetx86/NMXSSE2
[08:58] <parv> /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:58] <parv> i think so
[08:58] <Smrtz> geirha, well, yeah.  I'll reread that guide.  Thanks!
[08:58] <hillary> any body to bail me out to avoid the issue of the system is running low-graphics?
[08:58] <hillary> ubuntu 12.04
[08:59] <he1kki> I had dislocated cursor pointer again in ubuntu 14.04 and Firefox/Thunderbird. It's annoyingly difficult to reproduce, but it's basically means that when I click somewhere it actually clicks about 5px down from bottom of cursor icon.
[08:59] <gry> parv, thank you, I got the answer I needed.
[08:59] <parv> you're welcome :)
[08:59] <parv> happy to help
[08:59] <gry> parv, that path indeed exists and is not empty. how did you figure it out?
[08:59] <dw1> hillary: do you have a video card
[08:59] <zetheroo1> with 'mount -a' it mounts, as I can see it with 'df -h' : neptune:/mnt/neptune                917G  420G  451G  49% /mnt/neptune
[08:59] <hillary> yes i do
[08:59] <dw1> hillary: nvidia or ATI ?
[08:59] <zetheroo1> But I cannot list the contents
[09:00] <parv> use df -hT to look it
[09:00] <parv> it's mounted or not
[09:00] <hillary> kindly tell me how to check the type
[09:00] <dw1> hillary: lspci perhaps
[09:01] <Poseidonus7> I need some help how can I set ubuntu web server
[09:01] <Poseidonus7> any link
[09:01] <parv> sudo apt-get install apache2
[09:01] <parv> use this command
[09:01] <gry> or nginx
[09:01] <geirha> Smrtz: Well actually, that is different. I wasn't thinking straight.  ##networking may be a better resource for this
[09:01] <parv> and go to /var/www/html
[09:01] <hillary> lspci
[09:01] <parv> and store the files
[09:01] <dw1> hillary: run it in a terminal
[09:02] <bazhang> !server | Poseidonus7
[09:02] <parv> hey ubottu how are you?
[09:02] <Smrtz> geirha, haha, no worries.  thanks.
[09:02] <brontosaurusrex> Poseidonus7, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/httpd.html
[09:03] <parv> welcom dastaan
[09:03] <dastaan> hello
[09:03] <dastaan> :)
[09:04] <hillary> guide me on how to paste the outcome
[09:04] <d1323> how to I make ubuntu reload ~/.profile ?
[09:05] <dw1> hillary: select it in terminal then at http://paste.ubuntu.com do middle mouse ubtton in the box
[09:05] <zetheroo1> I read somewhere that I need to start rpc.gssd - if this is true how do I start it?
[09:05] <dw1> hillary: then send URL
[09:06] <hillary> you check
[09:06] <dw1> no can do
[09:06] <d1323> . ~/.profile reloads it in current terminal. can I do it system-wide?
[09:07] <hillary> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7365018/
[09:07] <hillary> i have sent
[09:07] <hillary> am gaining a lot of training!!
[09:07] <dw1> hillary: hmm... graphic driver should be automatic
[09:08] <someHuman> Hello!
[09:08] <someHuman> How do I dual boot Ubuntu and Windows 8?
[09:08] <Poseidonus7> parv: do I need only apache2 or something else
[09:08] <zhou> hello
[09:08] <dw1> hillary: you dont have a special card
[09:08] <hillary> so what do i do
[09:08] <someHuman> By that I mean on boot, I want a menu that will enable me to choose between thenm.
[09:08] <dw1> hillary: just the built in one
[09:08] <hillary> ok
[09:08] <Poseidonus7> If I want to see my web from other computer what do I need
[09:09] <Poseidonus7> web page
[09:10] <bazhang> Poseidonus7, did you read the links given you?
[09:12] <someHuman> I already have Windows 8 and Ubuntu 14.04 installed, how do I dual boot between them through a boot menu?
[09:12] <someHuman> I want a menu that will wait for me at least to choose before booting any OS on startup.
[09:12] <zetheroo1> someHuman: via the GRUB menu
[09:12] <parv> you are runnning ubuntu or windows 8 now?
[09:12] <Poseidonus7> bazhang:which link
[09:12] <someHuman> Windows 8
[09:13] <bazhang> !server | Poseidonus7 please read these carefully
[09:13] <someHuman> I am suppose to also install EasyBCD but found out that I needed to buy it.
[09:13] <zetheroo1> someHuman: ah Win8 ... no idea ... sorry
[09:13] <someHuman> zetheroo1: :(
[09:13] <brontosaurusrex> Poseidonus7, what are you exactly trying to do? a. setup a webpage b. share files c. ... ?
[09:13] <Poseidonus7> bazhang:this link http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition?
[09:13] <zetheroo1> bazhang: any idea about my NFS issue?
[09:14] <Krishnamurti> what do you think of ubuntu14.04?
[09:14] <someHuman> Krishnamurti: Me?
[09:14] <someHuman> Krishnamurti: Fine so far.
[09:14] <Krishnamurti> yes
[09:14] <Krishnamurti> haha
[09:15] <dw1> hillary: hard to say.. do you have all updates?  what versio nof ubuntu?
[09:15] <someHuman> I really need to have the grub2 menu at least to boot between Windows and Ubuntu. ATM, I need to even press F9 just to go into UEFI menu to boot to either Windows or Ubuntu.
[09:15] <someHuman> If I don't press anything on startup, Windows will load.
[09:16] <hillary> 12.04
[09:17] <someHuman> hillary: Huh?
[09:17] <hillary> ubuntu 12.04
[09:17] <Krishnamurti> still 12.04?
[09:17] <dw1> she has low graphics mode with onboard intel
[09:17] <dw1> help her
[09:21] <dw1> hillary: may not be an easy fix...... http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/showthread.php?t=60272&p=235773#post235773
[09:21] <dw1> hillary: wait thats not for ubuntu really.......
[09:21] <dw1> hillary: nevermind
[09:21] <mojtaba> Hi, I have a windows network, and when I am going to add new windows machine to this domain, I should join it to the domain. Should I join ubuntu to this network? What should I do?
[09:22] <someHuman> Krishnamurti: What's the ping for?
[09:22] <hillary> ok
[09:22] <dw1> hillary: keep asking some expert will come on i'm not :(
[09:22] <hillary> thanks for your help
[09:23] <gartral> would someone please tell me how to figure out why, despite having plenty of resources available, my system is running so freaking slow?
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> gartral: system specs and ubuntu version?
[09:25] <gartral> lotuspsychje: intel c2d 6600, stock 2.4 ghz, 4gb ram ubuntu 13.10
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> gartral: maybe you can testout 14.04 lts, see the speed difference?
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> gartral: did you clean install 13.10 or was it upgrade from previous?
[09:27] <gartral> lotuspsychje: this was a clean install a few months back
[09:27] <Tiensbakung> gartal: how is your cpu usage, i/o condition
[09:29] <gartral> Tiensbakung: cpu floats around 5% at idle, io peaks once in a while due to find updating the db, but there is NO reason for this hardware to take 5+ minutes to bring up a vm >.<
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> gartral: maybe a tail -f /var/log/syslog can show you specific issues in realtime?
[09:30] <Tiensbakung> maybe try starting the vm in a terminal, to see if it through some error message
[09:31] <Tiensbakung> *throws
[09:32] <gartral> Tiensbakung: thought of that too, and the only thing i can think of is that the io is peaking because it's io time is really really retardedly high.. but that's not the case
[09:33] <Krishnamurti> boys,which download tool you like best in ubuntu?
[09:33] <gartral> Tiensbakung: that also doesn't explain why my UI for the system locks up once in a while even though there's pleanty of resources
[09:34] <usr13> Krishnamurti: Like wget or ftp ?
[09:34] <Krishnamurti> what about aria2?
[09:35] <usr13> Krishnamurti: scp
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> Krishnamurti: what kind of downloads? http? usenet, torrent?
[09:35] <Krishnamurti> usenet
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> Krishnamurti: i use pan and nntpgrab
[09:36] <Tiensbakung> gartal: how old is your computer? If there are too many bad blocks in your hard disk, it can cause freezes, check the message.log, everything.log, kernel.log to see if that is the issue.
[09:36] <usr13> Krishnamurti: As lotuspsychje suggests, it depends on what kinds of downloads.
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> Krishnamurti: pan goes fastest, nntpgrab has auto unrar
[09:36] <gartral> Tiensbakung: well I figured out why the VM was loading like crap.. I managed to attach the disk it's on to the ONLY USB1.0 port on the comp, still no explinations on the other issues
[09:37] <Krishnamurti> oh,i will try
[09:37] <Tiensbakung> gartal: that's good, your are on your way
[09:37] <gartral> Tiensbakung: I run a deep SMART test once a month.. I have 0 bad blocks on a 5 year old drive
[09:38] <usr13> gartral: 0 bad blocks?  (I find that hard to believe.)
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> !info pan | Krishnamurti
[09:38] <Tiensbakung> gartal: check the log files
[09:40] <Krishnamurti> oh,sounds great
[09:40] <gartral> usr13: relocated sector count: 0, unrelocatable sector count: 0
[09:42] <aguitel> how install mate desktop in 14.04 ?
[09:42] <somsip> !info mate | aguitel
[09:42] <somsip> !info mate-desktop | aguitel
[09:42] <gartral> Tiensbakung: there's no messages.log anywhere
[09:43] <aguitel> somsip, another way ?
[09:43] <somsip> aguitel: the best way is to use the official repo
[09:43] <Tiensbakung> gartral: sorry, /var/log/messages
[09:43] <aguitel> somsip,  i know
[09:44] <hillary> after installing phpmyadmin i still get error NOT Found
[09:44] <hillary> ubuntu 12.04
[09:44] <hillary> localhost/phpmyadmin/
[09:44] <hillary> Not Found
[09:44] <Rory> hillary: How did you install phpmyadmin?
[09:44] <gartral> Tiensbakung: I'm telling you, ls -last | grep /var/log/mess shows nothing, period
[09:44] <Rory> hillary: Did you restart the web serber (sudo service apache2 restart)_
[09:44] <gartral> Rory: apt-get install phpmyadmin
[09:44] <hillary> sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[09:44] <hillary> yes
[09:45] <Rory> hillary: Can you try: sudo a2ensite phpmyadmin
[09:45] <dw1> Rory: its a conf
[09:45] <hillary> ERROR: Site phpmyadmin does not exist!
[09:46] <Rory> hillary: sudo ln -s /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> gartral: tail -f /var/log/syslog and mess around in your system a bit
[09:46] <dw1> hillary:  a2enconf phpmyadmin
[09:46] <dw1> hillary: service apache2 restart
[09:46] <somsip> Rory: to /etc/apache2/sites-available/ surely?
[09:46] <Tiensbakung> gartal: need root priviledge too see /var/log/messages
[09:47] <Rory> hmm somsip good point. hillary if you already ran that command can you do: sudo mv /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf /etc/apache2/sites-available/
[09:47] <Rory> hillary: and then sudo a2ensite phpmyadmin
[09:47] <dw1> Rory: the phpmyadmin package does all that stuff.. it should be enabled too.. she prob just didnt restart apache
[09:47] <somsip> Rory: though saying that, not too sure how the repo version works. So it might be a conf.d file...
[09:47] <owh> I agree with dw1
[09:47] <gartral> Tiensbakung: still nothing there
[09:48] <Rory> hillary: sudo dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin
[09:48] <owh> gartral: What are you looking for?
[09:48] <hillary> Thank you good people it has worked!!
[09:48] <Tiensbakung> gartal: sorry, get no clue more. maybe someone also can help
[09:48] <gartral> owh: /var/log/messages as per Tiensbakung's instruction
[09:48] <Rory> hillary: Which one worked, as a matter of interest?
[09:49] <owh> gartral: I have just come into the room. What are you trying to do?
[09:49] <hillary>  sudo ln -s /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[09:49] <somsip> Rory: my bad assumption on the site.conf then. You were right :)
[09:49] <hillary>  a2enconf phpmyadmin
[09:49] <amitprakash> How do I go about getting gnome 3.12 on ubuntu 14.04?
[09:49] <gartral> owh: figure out why my system locks up even though there's plenty of resources available
[09:49] <hillary> service apache2 restart
[09:50] <hillary> Those three solved the problem
[09:50] <owh> gartral: What kind of "lock up".
[09:50] <owh> hillary: Likely the apache restart was the actual fix.
[09:50] <dw1> i dont see a conf.d in /etc/apache2 :/
[09:50] <Rory> amitprakash: You can use the Gnome team Stable PPA https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3
[09:50] <Rory> !ppa | amitprakash
[09:50] <hillary> ok thanks
[09:50] <dw1> may be diff on 12.04
[09:50] <amitprakash> Rory, only 12.10 there
[09:51] <amitprakash> Rory, sorry 3.10 *
[09:51] <Rory> amitprakash: "GNOME 3.12 that didn't made it into the normal Ubuntu 14.04 repositories"
[09:51] <gartral> owh: ui stops, completly, nothing responds except mouse can move, and the system cuts off keyboard input (or at least doesn't respond) for about 2-30 minutes before everything catches back up,
[09:52] <amitprakash> Rory, right, except I see no packages against it in the ppa
[09:52] <Rory> amitprakash: You might need to also add the staging one ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging
[09:53] <Rory> amitprakash: Take a look here http://askubuntu.com/a/456219/62969
[09:53] <owh> gartral: So, it's not locked up as such. Is there a /var/log/messages file?
[09:53] <WileTheCoyot> hello everyone
[09:53] <gartral> and I also want to KILL whoever decided MTP was the transfer protocol for android drvices.. but that's another rant for another day
[09:54] <amitprakash> Rory, thanks
[09:54] <owh> gartral: You'll have to stand in line for that one.
[09:54] <gartral> owh: No, there's no messages file anywhere on my hard drive, find or locate would have told me
[09:54] <amitprakash> gartral, it was either that or ptp
[09:55] <amitprakash> gartral, its rather tricky when you want to use the filesystem locally while letting others mount it as a separate device
[09:55] <gartral> amitprakash: ptp is also an option available on my phone
[09:55] <amitprakash> sshfs would have been nicer
[09:55] <WileTheCoyot> is possible to launch a jar (java app) with double click in ubuntu 13.10? for now i need to right click -> open with -> openjdk 7 if a do double click file rollel is oened instead
[09:55] <amitprakash> WileTheCoyot, create a shell script and put that in bin
[09:55] <androirc> Hi guys! Do you know where can I get the Ubutu for Android source code?
[09:55] <amitprakash> then associate jar files with the shell script
[09:55] <owh> gartral: Not always so. I'm unsure how familiar you are, open up a terminal and type cd /var/log
[09:56] <Rory> WileTheCoyot: I believe in order for double-click to open in the JRE you need to have marked the file as executable
[09:56] <gartral> amitprakash: what's so hard about MSC mode >.< it works, it's reliable, and you get access to the whole flash system, not a retardedly placed virtual sd card
[09:57] <gartral> owh: i'm not a MOTU but i'm not a noob either ;) i'm telling you, there's no /var/log/mess*
[09:58] <owh> gartral: What about syslog?
[09:59] <amitprakash> gartral, android wanted single volume and two things cant mount a single volume over MSC
[09:59] <gartral> owh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7365236/
[09:59] <WileTheCoyot> Rory: it's already marked as executable
[10:00] <owh> gartral: Do you know what time the last time was? If so, go through syslog (or the older ones) and check to see if anything is happening that's leaving an entry.
[10:00] <gartral> owh: I have a syslog and there's nothing really useful there
[10:00] <owh> gartral: To open up the .gz ones, you can use zcat or zless.
[10:00] <hillary> i still have an issue with "the system is running in low-graphics mode" ubuntu 12.04
[10:01] <hillary> when i press ctl+Alt+ F2 and issue sudo service gdm restart then it comes normal
[10:01] <gartral> owh: I run a few servers too, i know how to handle gzipped logs ;) thanks for the refresher though
[10:01] <owh> gartral: I've learnt never to assume in this room ;-)
[10:02] <DarkStar1> Morning all just a qq. which version of ubuntu has postgresql 9.2 in its repos?
[10:03] <gartral> owh: hint that your dealing with a competent user; when the add flags to a command without you needing them too, and thy used sensible flags :P
[10:03] <gartral> they*
[10:04] <owh> gartral: Nah, that's just an indication that there is someone smart on the system. Not required that it's the person here asking questions ;-)
[10:04] <owh> gartral: So, I'd be logging output from top and see if that shows what the resource hog is.
[10:04] <Xavier89> Hi
[10:04] <Xavier89> Anyone know how to start eggdrop from any directory?
[10:05] <gartral> owh: i use htop for that
[10:05] <owh> gartral: You're logging it?
[10:07] <gartral> owh: not so much, but with 3 monitors it's easy to keep htop in one
[10:07] <owh> gartral: The aim is to find out what's going on when it's not responding. If it's that locked up, htop won't be refreshing the screen, but a log might still get processed.
[10:08] <owh> gartral: Often actual lockups are memory related. That is, bad memory. But that doesn't often result in the machine coming back. I'd be looking for rogue processes that fire off or lock up HDD access. Does the caps-lock light still work when it locks?
[10:09] <gartral> owh: interestingly enough, terminals still refresh and show output during the event, it's very weird, but very useful, from what i've seen, there's no major issues
[10:09] <Krishnamurti> anyone use amule on ubuntu?
[10:09] <owh> gartral: So, there's no obvious CPU hog?
[10:09] <gartral> owh: intermittently.. sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't
[10:09] <gartral> owh: nope
[10:10] <owh> gartral: Network activity?
[10:11] <owh> gartral: swap activity?
[10:11] <Xavier89> Anyone know how to start eggdrop from any directory?
[10:11] <owh> gartral: Is this something new, or something you've been dealing with for ages? Did you update or upgrade anything?
[10:12] <gartral> owh: network completely halts and my system dissapears from the network until the event subsides, swap *sometimes* goes nuts, but not ussually, and i've been dealing with this for about 3 months
[10:12] <zamba> what does the error message "connection discarded by broker" means? relating to ssh?
[10:12] <owh> gartral: When was the last reboot? Have you done a file system check.
[10:13] <gartral> owh: I reboot after every event, and last fs-check was 10 days ago (also my current uptime), check was clean
[10:14] <owh> zamba: http://bit.ly/1iHbP8X
[10:14] <MosDef> Can anyone please explain to me why I need to restart asterix to get it to work when my callcentric DID suddenly stops working?
[10:14] <zamba> owh: this is openssh
[10:15] <androirc>  Hi guys! Do you know where can I get the Ubutu for Android source code?
[10:15] <owh> zamba: Both ends?
[10:16] <zamba> owh: that i don't know
[10:16] <zamba> owh: is there a way i can confirm what the remote end is running?
[10:16] <owh> gartral: Check the dpkg log to see if anything was installed 3 months ago.
[10:16] <owh> zamba: Did you actually click the link I gave you?
[10:17] <zamba> owh: yes
[10:17] <Xavier89> Anyone know how to start eggdrop from any directory?
[10:17] <WileTheCoyot> no solutions?
[10:17] <zamba> Xavier89: full path to the executable or add the directory to your path
[10:17] <owh> WileTheCoyot: For what?
[10:18] <WileTheCoyot> my problem
[10:18] <zamba> Xavier89: better yet it to use the shebang and add the full path to the eggdrop executable at the top of your configuration file.. and then you just "launch" the configuration file
[10:19] <owh> zamba: It indicates that the remote end disconnected you. So, given that the answer is on ssh.com, I'm going with, the remote end disconnected you. As to why? Who knows. Perhaps turn on verbosity on the ssh connection to see what it's doing.
[10:19] <owh> WileTheCoyot: I'm unfamiliar with your issue.
[10:19] <dw1> WileTheCoyot: http://google.com/search?q=open+jar+double+click+ubuntu :)
[10:19] <Xavier89> zamba ~/home/eggdrop/eggdrop ?
[10:19] <owh> dw1 ;-)
[10:20] <dw1> I could do that all day but I'd probably get reprimanded :P
[10:20] <owh> dw1: I'd like to see at least some evidence that the person actually tried that. Often they don't. It's a balancing act ;-)
[10:21] <owh> dw1: It's a shame that hillary quit. I have an answer for the gdm launch issue too :-|
[10:22] <dw1> owh: purge and reinstall gdm?
[10:22] <owh> dw1: Nah, there is a timing issue with faster machines where it gets started too early. You need to introduce a delay and it works.
[10:22] <dw1> owh: i saw some stuff about that with varying successes
[10:23] <dw1> owh: it was a great clue that she said restarting fixes it
[10:23] <owh> dw1: Yeah, ditto.
[10:23] <owh> And that too!
[10:24] <dw1> if I end up homeless I should put "will google for $" on a sign
[10:24] <owh> ROTFLOL
[10:25] <gartral> dw1: lol
[10:25] <owh> I cannot believe the number of questions that can be answered by typing the error message into Google ;-)
[10:25] <gartral> owh: yea I know
[10:25] <owh> Mind you, sometimes it does take you on a merry goose chase...
[10:25] <owh> gartral: Any luck with dpkg logs?
[10:26] <owh> gartral: Basically, the problem you're attempting to solve is one by elimination. Do the obvious ones, one at a time. Check your assumptions. What remains, however improbable is your issue -- I've heard that somewhere before.
[10:27] <gartral> owh: that quote's been attributed to many great minds..
[10:27] <owh> gartral: One of the things you can do is run off a LiveCD and see if that has the same issue. Also run a memtest86 from the same disc.
[10:27] <owh> gartral: ;-)
[10:28] <owh> gartral: Just out of morbid curiosity. Have you got a network mounted volume anywhere?
[10:30] <gartral> owh: I've ran a memtest and cpu burn, both passed with flying colors, even when I bumped my cpu to 3.1ghz for 2 months (had to downclock again because I can live in air conditioning and my comp got a little too hot for my personal liking, but that had no effect on my issue)
[10:30] <gartral> can't*
[10:31] <gartral> I hate MTP >.<
[10:31] <owh> gartral: I've seen an issue where a fuse-mounted volume over ssh freezes like you describe.
[10:32] <gartral> owh: I saw that too, and to that effect, I rarely leave my servers connected that way, only long enough to finish my transfer and i dismount
[10:32] <dw1> owh: fwiw I just installed phpmyadmin and it reloaded apache 3x and "just worked" straight away
[10:33] <owh> dw1: Interesting.
[10:35] <owh> gartral: If it's not CPU related, it might be some other aspect of your machine blocking. It could be for example a faulty network device on your network causing a storm which causes your machine to attempt to respond and fail. Again, start by eliminating things one at a time, what remains should give you hints. I'd recommend writing down all of what you've eliminated, so you don't go around in circles. It is unlikely to be a quick hunt.
[10:35] <ujjain2> What's the best CLI way to create VM's hosted from Ubuntu?
[10:35] <owh> ujjain2: bash
[10:36] <owh> >:-)
[10:36] <ujjain2> so which command, tool, etc?
[10:36] <owh> ujjain2: It depends entirely on your virtualisation tool.
[10:36] <amitprakash> gartral, whats the issue you're trying to solve?
[10:37] <ujjain2> owh, I yet have to pick, anything is fine, I want to use an ubuntu server
[10:37] <dw1> ujjain2: Virtualbox? http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html
[10:37] <owh> ujjain2: That's a horse and cart problem. You need to determine what functionality you need, then you can decide which tool to use. There are many to choose from. virtualbox, vmware, xen, ...
[10:38]  * owh is off to eat some dinner. Later all.
[10:45] <bobo> hi
[10:48] <zmaroti> hi, guys, I need some help with udev/xorg
[10:48] <Rory> I know Ubuntu doesn't support MTP but is there any way to at least disable the "unable to open Android device" popups? They appear once every few seconds and stack up infinitely; they stop me charging my phone on my PC
[10:48] <gartral> Rory: Ubuntu supports MYP just fine
[10:48] <zmaroti> my Xorg log says I have no /dev/dri/card0
[10:48] <gartral> MTP*
[10:48] <zmaroti> and it falls back to software rendering
[10:49]  * gartral should not be on IRC after consuming alcohol
[10:49] <Rory> gartral: OK well the second part of my question still stands
[10:49] <gartral> Rory: fix your MTP! what version of ubuntu are you running?
[10:49] <zmaroti> everything was working ok in 12.04 but after intslling 14.04 videocard is not working properly
[10:50] <gartral> zmaroti: reinstall or upgrade?
[10:50] <Rory> gartral: 14.04 but it's affected every version since forever
[10:50] <zmaroti> I've googled around but couldn't find where udev is making /dev/dri entries
[10:50] <gartral> Rory: that's.. weird..
[10:50] <JOY> dudes ... i m facing problem with my internet dongle ... my system is not detecting it !
[10:51] <Rory> gartral: Infinite of these http://i.imgur.com/bS2FUQ4.png
[10:51] <gartral> Rory: well a quick fix is pull down your statusbar drawr on your device and turn off MTP mode
[10:51] <Rory> gartral: I can't do that, I'd rather prevent Ubuntu from attempting to mount it
[10:51] <Rory> gartral: Disable what support for MTP it has at all
[10:52] <zmaroti> if someone can help me with fixing a kernel/udev/xorg problem for 14.04 please PM me
[10:52] <Rory> zmaroti: What graphics card do you have?
[10:52] <JOY> dudes ... i m facing problem with my internet dongle ... my system is not detecting it !
[10:52] <zmaroti> Rory, a matrox g200
[10:52] <Rory> JOY: What internet dongle, what Ubuntu version?
[10:52] <gartral> Rory: drawback of MTP is that it's a "request-push" based protocol, there's not a way to disable Ubuntu from trying to acknowlede the device, you can really only just make the device not push a mount request
[10:52] <JOY> 13.04
[10:53] <JOY> it an 3g stick
[10:53] <zmaroti> Rory, I have xserver-xorg-video-mga installed, also I have linux-image-extras installed
[10:53] <gartral> JOY: wifi, wimax, 3g/4g?
[10:53] <JOY> iball internet dongle
[10:53] <JOY> 3g it is
[10:54] <gartral> JOY: apt-get install usb-modeswitch
[10:54] <JOY> k .. what it gona do !?!
[10:54] <JOY> gartral :
[10:55]  * gartral has screwed around with *COUNTLESS* 3g/4g dongles.. they all have an internal mode architecture that has 3-4 "partitions", one's a USB disk that holds the drivers, the next usually is the modem, and the rest are debugging
[10:55] <c660> i got this toshiba c660 2gb running 14.04 unity, and it is too unresponsive .. what's going on?
[10:55] <gartral> JOY: ^^^
[10:55] <JOY> yup got it gartral ... i ill try
[10:56] <gartral> JOY: you'll more than likely have to google abit for firmware to push to it..
[10:57] <androirc> hi guys, do you know if Ubuntu for Android is open source??
[10:57] <popey> androirc: it hasn't been released, so there's no license.
[10:57] <k1l> androirc: no its not. its prop from motorola iirc
[10:57] <cfhowlett> androirc ubuntu for android is a dead project.
[10:57] <gartral> cfhowlett: not... entirely
[10:58] <gry> I think there is a mobile version of ubuntu, which is a bit more universal (and could probably run on the said devices)
[10:58] <gartral> cfhowlett: what gry said
[10:58] <cfhowlett> !touch|androirc
[10:59] <c660> it becomes so irritating to work with and windows go grey all the time, please help
[10:59] <gry> please upload a screenshot to www.umgur.com for me to see the problem
[11:00] <gry> www.imgur.com even
[11:02] <zmaroti> if someone can help me with fixing a kernel/udev/xorg problem for 14.04 please PM me
[11:03] <guest212> I want to change my efi boot order but efibootmgr doesn't return anything
[11:03] <guest212> It says I dont have any efi entries
[11:06] <guest212> How do I fix this?
[11:08] <zmaroti> if someone can help me with fixing a kernel/udev/xorg problem for 14.04 please PM me
[11:09] <jrib> !ask | zmaroti
[11:10] <zmaroti> jrib, ok thanks I'll try to be patient/idle more, so maybe someone reads back questions later :)
[11:10] <jrib> zmaroti: just ask your real question with details here instead of asking for PMs.  We can't know if we can help you until you tell us the actual issue
[11:12] <zmaroti> jrib my problem is that xorg is not accelerated:  (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such device it is possibly kernel or udev related thing
[11:13] <zmaroti> as the directory is fully missing and entries in it are not populated either, even though I have the video card kernel module (mga.ko) installed
[11:19] <androirc> popey, k1l, cfhowlett: Thank you! I know that it is a dead project, but I now I have Ubuntu installed on my phone (using chroot) but I don't know how to output my desktop in my monitor, I mean, at this moment I'm using VNC to connect to the X, but I guess that this is not how Ubuntu for Android works
[11:20] <gintas222> Hi
[11:20] <androirc> I'd like to get this behaviour in front of using VNC, thats why Im asking for the code
[11:20] <gintas222> I have a problem and I dont know where to report a bug in ubuntu. Anyone could help me?
[11:20] <cfhowlett> androirc FWIW Meizu and OOPC (spelling?) are supposed to release an actual/factual ubuntu phone sometime in the next millenium.
[11:21] <guest212> Oh my god, my problem was that I didn't use sudo on efibootmgr, it doesn't notify me if it hasn't got the permissions
[11:21] <popey> cfhowlett: Meizu and Bq
[11:21] <cfhowlett> popey thanks!  I'm in Beijing so I see Meizu phones all the time - might just have to grab one for grins and giggles.
[11:22] <androirc> cfhowlett: I know, but this this Ubuntu "Phone", not Ubuntu for Android, at this moment, I prefer to use Android because of the Apps
[11:22] <k1l> androirc: a chroot install is not a real install. you will have to tell android to output it where you want it
[11:24] <zmaroti> could someone help on xorg is not accelerated:  (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such device (it is possibly kernel or udev related thing)
[11:28] <Tiensbakung> zmaroti: which ubuntu version is it?
[11:28] <zmaroti> Tiensbakung, 14.04
[11:28] <zmaroti> kernel 3.13.0-24
[11:29] <zmaroti> the corresponding kernel modules are installed
[11:29] <Tiensbakung> fresh install? What about previous ubuntu versions? Are they working?
[11:29] <zmaroti> Tiensbakung, yes a fresh install, and it worked on 12.04
[11:30] <Tiensbakung> What about 13.04 and 13.10?
[11:30] <f3lix> How would you go about setting different defaults (keymap) on a live usb stick?
[11:30] <zmaroti> Tiensbakung, I never installed, it is a server and we need LTS support
[11:31] <cfhowlett> !server|zmaroti
[11:31] <young_TRP> hi
[11:32] <Tiensbakung> zmaroti: what video card?
[11:32] <zmaroti> cfhowlett, we use it as a workstation for scientific calculations...
[11:33] <zmaroti> Tiensbakung, matrox 0a:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd. G200eR2
[11:33] <cfhowlett> zmaroti sounds fun!  just wanted to alert you to the server channel option
[11:33] <zmaroti> Tiensbakung, xserver-xorg-video-mga is installed
[11:34] <Tiensbakung> zmaroti: is the right kernel modules loaded in kernel? lsmod
[11:34] <zmaroti> Tiensbakung, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 65564 Apr 10 22:11 /lib/modules/3.13.0-24-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/mga/mga.ko
[11:35] <zmaroti> lsmod | grep mga
[11:35] <zmaroti> mga                    40811  0
[11:35] <zmaroti> drm                   302817  1 mga
[11:35] <androirc> k1l: I know, I'm really using the Android kernel and running Ubuntu on the top... By the way it is also easy to make a real installation of Ubuntu and then chroot Android to get more access to the Android file system and other stuff.. but witch is the correct way to output my X11 desktop on the external monitor??
[11:35] <d1323> what do I need to install to get kdialog on ubuntu running unity DE?
[11:35] <Tiensbakung> zmaroti: ?it seems alright then
[11:36] <zmaroti> Tiensbakung,  grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:36] <androirc> k1l: That is why a look to the Ubuntu for Android could be very useful hehehe
[11:36] <cfhowlett> d1323 sudo apt-get install kdialog will install it and dependcies
[11:36] <zmaroti> [  2324.271] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such device
[11:36] <Tiensbakung> zmaroti: hardware issues are generally hard to tackle, if it was me, i would stay with 12.04 for a while
[11:36] <tarnfeld> hey guys – i’m getting a 404 on http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric-security - presumably becuase it’s EOL? Is there still an apt repository I can hook up to and get these packages?
[11:37] <zmaroti> Tiensbakung, i dont know if it is just xorg problem as well console framebuffer seems sloow as well
[11:37] <cfhowlett> tarnfeld EOL    means no support.  why not install  a supported version?
[11:37] <cfhowlett> !oneiric
[11:37] <d1323> cfhowlett, first thing I tried, it could not find it. neither did ubuntu software center.
[11:37] <zmaroti> Tiensbakung, scrolls like a slug so it could be some stupid kerlnel line ption missing in grub conf or something
[11:37] <cfhowlett> !info kdialog
[11:38] <tarnfeld> cfhowlett: i’m running a large compute cluster which requires a specific version of hadoop right now (just want to get this working), and that version only works on versions of ubuntu which are EOL… lol.
[11:38] <tarnfeld> cfhowlett: we’ll be upgrading soon, just wanted to try and fix this issue temporarily
[11:38] <cfhowlett> tarnfeld ow   I feel for you.
[11:38] <cfhowlett> sorry - no solution I can suggest.
[11:38] <tarnfeld> cfhowlett: hah, yeahhhhhhh… fun, right?
[11:38] <Tiensbakung> zmaroti: that may also caused by software rendering, not sure it related to framebuffer
[11:38] <zmaroti> Tiensbakung, problem is that we have some special scientific software package which was built to trusty package dependencies
[11:39] <Poseidonus7> I will ask where is a problem:guest-TTes06@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install apache2
[11:39] <Poseidonus7> sudo: unable to change to sudoers gid: Operation not permitted
[11:39] <Poseidonus7> sudo: setresuid() [0, 0, 0] -> [116, -1, -1]: Operation not permitted
[11:39] <zmaroti> Tiensbakung, we have /dev/fb0 but the /dev/dri directory is totally missing
[11:39] <zmaroti> also no /dev/dri/card0
[11:39] <abdel> I  just upgraded to 14.04 ubuntu but it keeps popping error: desktop manager not working
[11:39] <abdel> please help
[11:39] <DJones> tarnfeld: It wouldn't be supported, but you could try amending your sources list based on http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/ that _might_ work
[11:39] <tarnfeld> cfhowlett: don’t know if I can grab them from the archives? or are there no archives for EOL (just things approaching EOL)?
[11:40] <tarnfeld> DJones: ah, hmm i’ll try that.
[11:40] <cfhowlett> tarnfeld as I understand, those repos are now completely disabled.  (side note: suggest you install and maintain Long-Term-Support version on your server = 14.04)
[11:40] <zmaroti> Tiensbakung,  if i create the directory by hand and make mknod card0 c 266 0 i still get the same error though in xorg log
[11:41] <Tiensbakung> zmaroti: I'm not an expert. Maybe you can try a very light weight window manager to mitigate this problem for a while
[11:41] <Poseidonus7> please tell me, why I cannot instal apache2
[11:42] <adsc> you tell us
[11:42] <adsc> are you unwilling or unable
[11:42] <zmaroti> Tiensbakung, using xfce, but moving just an xterm sucks :]]
[11:42] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|adsc
[11:42] <adsc> Poseidonus7: do you get any error message?
[11:42] <cfhowlett> !details|Poseidonus7
[11:43] <Tiensbakung> I am talking about even light weight: window manager only, openbox, flluxbox, since it's a server, aesthetics is not the first aim
[11:44] <adsc> Poseidonus7: maybe you literally tried apt-get instal apache2? In that case, install needs 2 L at the end
[11:44] <Tiensbakung> there are plenty of terminal out there, i use rxvt-unicode now, a little configuration can make a very pretty terminal
[11:46] <zmaroti> Tiensbakung, i doubt there would be any change, when you move a very small window it draws like a slug and after a while X throws errors as it cannot follow pointer moves
[11:48] <Tiensbakung> zmaroti: this is not solution, rather a work-around, to mitigate the problem
[11:49] <abdel> how do i fix desktop manager not active error pops
[11:49] <zmaroti> Tiensbakung, thanks anyway I will try to google more/fiddle it
[11:52] <trap_exit> how do I avoid heartbleed issues ?
[11:52] <abdel> can anybody please help out here, how do i get rid of error: desktop manager not active please
[11:53] <cfhowlett> trap_exit sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:53] <abdel> can anybody please help out here, how do i get rid of error: desktop manager not active please
[11:54] <Rory> trap_exit: The "HeartBleed" OpenSSL bug has been patched in all supported versions of Ubuntu (13.10, 12.10 and 12.04 ONLY). Your OpenSSL package will be upgraded, although the version number will not change. This link has more information, please read it before asking more questions: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[11:54] <Rory> trap_exit: and 14.04
[11:54] <trap_exit> Rory: noted, thanks!
[12:01] <abdel> can anybody please help out here, how do i get rid of error: desktop manager not active please
[12:01] <abdel> does anybody know what to do please
[12:01] <Rory> abdel: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[12:01] <abdel> 14.04
[12:01] <Rory> abdel: Where do you see that error message, what do you do to produce it?
[12:01] <abdel> just upgraded it 10 mins ago from 13.10 to 14.04
[12:02] <abdel> on my desktop
[12:02] <abdel> everything is working but it keeps popping every 15mins
[12:02] <abdel> or so
[12:02] <Krishnamurti> who can tell me where is the files which downloaded by mldonkey?
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> !find mldonkey
[12:03] <Krishnamurti> i just can't find it
[12:03] <yossarianuk> can anyone recommend any good stress testing apps for webservers  - preferably one that produces graphs?
[12:04] <Rory> Krishnamurti: It is possibly somewhere in ~/.mldonkey
[12:04] <cfhowlett> yossarianuk great question for #ubuntu-server or ##linux
[12:04] <yossarianuk> cfhowlett: ah ok - is #ubuntu for desktop  queries?
[12:04] <Krishnamurti> e,it's hidden
[12:05] <sumspam> can someone here help me with a #ubuntu issue, I'm a semi new #ubuntu user
[12:05] <cfhowlett> yossarianuk no but the heavy server users are probably in the server channel.
[12:05] <yossarianuk> thanks
[12:05] <cfhowlett> !ask|sumspam
[12:05] <gry> sumspam, welcome :D
[12:06] <sumspam> gry: thanks :)
[12:06] <gry> sumspam, they have some bots here but the idea is to ask a full question and be free to help others :)
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> sumspam  so what's your question?
[12:07] <sumspam> well, my problem is that the built in printers app is freezing constantly, and I dont know how to kill the proccess or app.
[12:07] <gry> printers app? what is that roughly?
[12:08] <sathishreddydg> but i won't quit
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> sumspam  what's the name of the app?
[12:08] <Krishnamurti> @Rory
[12:08] <sumspam> I'm using ubuntu 14.04 LTS the name of the app is called printers I think
[12:09] <sumspam> it's stock with ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[12:09] <Rory> Yes Krishnamurti, files and directories beginning with a . are hidden in regular directory listings, you can use ctrl+h to toggle displaying of hidden files in the file manager
[12:09] <Krishnamurti> 大
[12:11] <Krishnamurti> in fact,i have tried,but...
[12:13] <FakeBoost> Hello, I messed up the screen driver, how do i fix it? I cant access the gui.
[12:13] <FakeBoost> or DE, however you call it.
[12:14] <janmalte> FakeBoost: remove it completly from the system first
[12:14] <FakeBoost> how??
[12:14] <janmalte> sudo apt-get purge fglrx... or nvidia... depending on your hardware
[12:14] <FakeBoost> I just have a terminal...
[12:14] <FakeBoost> i'll try
[12:15] <janmalte> firefox 29 is crashing just at startup on kubuntu 14.04 amd64. Does someone know how to fix it?
[12:15] <FakeBoost> unable to locate package nvidia
[12:15] <FakeBoost> janmalte
[12:16] <janmalte> http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/nvidia-current
[12:22] <Guest13762> hello
[12:24] <Xethron> I found a bug in Ubuntu unity. When editing accounts, and I click "unlock", I get: (unity-control-center:3309): Gtk-WARNING **: Error acquiring permission: Failed to acquire permission for action-id com.canonical.controlcenter.user-accounts.administration
[12:24] <Xethron> Should I report it?
[12:27] <Rory> Xethron: Yes if you cannot find an existing one
[12:28] <bigred15> What's the easiest way to downgrade firefox?
[12:29] <abdel> can anybody please help out here, how do i get rid of error: desktop manager not active please
[12:29] <MrQuist> bigred15, wait till the next update, and click cancel on the update window
[12:29] <MrQuist> congrats, now is downgrade
[12:30] <noodleking> hi
[12:30] <MrQuist> j/k i wouldn't know i hate FF ever since they brought out new versions every week
[12:30] <Xethron> lol
[12:30] <noodleking> I've just setup two instances of Ubuntu server 12.04 in Virtualbox and I can't get either to ping www.google.com
[12:31] <MrQuist> noodleking, check your NIC's
[12:31] <MrQuist> are they bridged / shared / private only ?
[12:31] <noodleking> I've got their interfaces configured correctly, I've enabled bridged adapter with "promiscuous allow all" just in case
[12:32] <noodleking> I'm not sure where to go next ... can't figure out why they aren't able to access the internet. I've set up many previous installations of ubuntu in vm and they've all worked fine.
[12:33] <noodleking> I can't even find a decent google hit on the problem (as any description I give it catches too many irrelevant hits).
[12:34] <noodleking> is there anyway to atleast debug this? say any logs that I could look at to get an idea of what is going on?
[12:35] <MrQuist> not sure noodleking
[12:35] <MrQuist> its usually just an issue with NIC's
[12:35] <MrQuist> did you try other emulated NIC hardware ?
[12:35] <MrQuist> intel 1000 works fine most of the time
[12:35] <noodleking> nope, not yet ... I've been trying to fix other things
[12:35] <noodleking> checking out my ports and firewall settings on my router
[12:36] <noodleking> figured there was an outside chance that the static ips that I had assigned to both VMs where in some way blocked under my rules
[12:37] <noodleking> but none of them are blocking these ips and the rules have been in place for a while, so other instances of ubuntu VMs should have faced the same issue.
[12:37] <abdel> can anybody please help out here, how do i get rid of error: desktop manager not active please
[12:37] <noodleking> all my other VMs emulate the intel cards too
[12:41] <noodleking> I can't even run "sudo apt-get update" as it fails to resolve gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:41] <noodleking> :(
[12:41] <swordsmanz> anyone know about setting up gnome pie ?
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> abdel: sounds like a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/variety/+bug/1301651
[12:42] <noodleking> I suspect the issue is with resolve.conf, but don't know how to adjust that.
[12:45] <abdel> i just dis sudo apt-get --purge remove pcmanfm
[12:45] <abdel> thanks lotuspsychje
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> !yay | abdel
[12:46] <abdel> yipee
[12:51] <_nedR> hello.. my firefox crashed and now after restart it looks like chrome.. what is happening.. ubuntu 13.10
[12:51] <rundll32> how to install ubuntu 12 in xen hypervisor server via internet?
[12:52] <greg_> nedR: Is a new version of Firefox. It does look like Chrome.
[12:53] <rundll32> ithink it is not supported.
[12:54] <_nedR> greg_ thanks for reply.. I .. I  just need some time alone to process this
[12:55] <_nedR> where the hell did my addon bar go
[12:55] <bigred15> the new ff sucks.
[12:55] <greg_> _nedR: Is all to the right. Like Chrome
[12:56] <_nedR> No NO ... this is bad
[12:56] <cfhowlett> !browsers|bigred15
[12:56] <_nedR> so all my 15 addons are gonna be cramped to the right?
[12:56] <xevious> Is LaunchPad having issues right now? I'm attempting to add the rsyslog v7-stable PPA using 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rsyslog/v7-stable' and I'm getting the response, 'Cannot access PPA (https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~rsyslog/+archive/v7-stable) to get PPA information, please check your internet connection.' This is on a 12.04.4 system that does have Internet access.
[12:56] <swordsmanz> how would i install all standard language packs  ?
[12:57] <gry> _nedR, go to #firefox please .... :)
[12:57] <greg_> _nedR: I haven't had time to check it all out I just closed it when I saw it. I don't like.
[12:57] <cfhowlett> swordsmanz there are no "standard" language packs
[12:57] <atossava> just upgraded to 14.04 LTS and lost external mouse and keyboard. This is probably a standard issue. dmesg shows that they are being detected by the kernel, but they aren't working. Any ideas?
[12:58] <swordsmanz> cfhowlett then hhow do i install just german ?
[12:58] <gry> _nedR, they had new version released, some changes; if don't like then use seamonkey, it is 1990s interface with modern mozilla platform engine .... :)
[12:58] <_nedR> gry... its ubuntu that snuck this update on me.. major ui changes should be between versions.. i am still on 13.10
[12:58] <gry> _nedR, assuming you're speaking of firefox there :)
[12:58] <gry> seamonkey is in the ubuntu repos too, you can try it if you don't like what mozilla is doing to firefox itself :)
[12:58] <Pici> xevious: are you sure that is a valid ppa?
[12:59] <cfhowlett> swordsmanz system > settings > Language Support > install languages ...
[12:59] <_nedR> gry... yeah i thought ubuntu doesn't give major updates (except security and bug fixes) to software in repos..
[12:59] <swordsmanz> from shell plz
[12:59] <swordsmanz> no gnome
[12:59] <xevious> Pici: Good point. :)
[12:59] <amitprakash> test
[12:59] <xevious> Pici: It's ppa:adiscon/v7-stable
[13:00] <Pici> xevious: right :)
[13:00] <xevious> Pici: I'm an idiot.
[13:00] <_nedR> Ah well.. it was a good 8-10 years
[13:00] <cfhowlett> swordsmanz sudo apt-get install task-german-s-desktop
[13:00] <Pici> xevious: add-apt-repository/lp really should have given a better error.
[13:00] <atossava> Anybody with ideas on getting USB mouse and keyboard back in working order after 14.04 upgrade?
[13:01] <atossava> Showing up in dmesg, but not working at all.
[13:01] <xevious> Pici: The guy who wrote this documentation shouldn't have put 'ppa:rsyslog/v7-stable' in it.
[13:01] <xevious> Pici: A quick check on rsyslog's site and it's clear that it's ppa:adiscon that I want.
[13:01] <swordsmanz> cfhowlett not a package
[13:02] <_nedR> Maybe... perhaps i could learn to like this new interface... it might be all for the .... who am i kidding, I am gonna find a bridge to jump off of
[13:03] <gartral> _nedR: you can always download KDE! :P
[13:03] <_nedR> gartral, ah the fifth column...
[13:03] <_nedR> gartral, does kde have the old firefox?
[13:04] <gartral> _nedR: unfortuently, no..
[13:04] <cfhowlett> swordsmanz best answer I can see is http://askubuntu.com/questions/149876/how-can-i-install-one-language-by-command-line
[13:04] <_nedR> gartral, sorry i was talking about new firefox not unity interface.. but yeah i always wanted to try out KDE
[13:04] <gartral> _nedR: yea, the new ff is too much like chrome
[13:05] <swordsmanz> i have already tried the most senseible answers that thread has
[13:05] <_nedR> gartral... yeah.. no addon bar..
[13:05] <_nedR> but ofcourse since this is firefox.. there is an addon to fix that
[13:06] <_nedR> i will try this new ui for a few days before installing The addon bar (restored)
[13:06] <zsandu> Is there a way I can install ubuntu on my machine while skipping the bootloader installation? I would like to handle that with syslinux, not Grub2
[13:06] <cfhowlett> zsandu you can opt-out of installing grub
[13:07] <zsandu> cfhowlett: ah okay. So there is an option inside the liveCD installer that lets you do so? I didn't know that.
[13:07] <zsandu> cfhowlett: thanks
[13:08] <cfhowlett> zsandu pay attention to your options as you're installing and it'll ask where to put grub (or not)
[13:08] <atossava> Xorg says that it relies on udev to provide the list of input devices, and apparently udev isn't seeing the USB input devices.
[13:10] <_nedR> ubuntu and firefox should warn people for springs such huge  changes upon them.. i thought my browser got hijacked by some malware (horrible windows memories all came flooding back to me)
[13:10] <_nedR> *before springing
[13:11] <Nach0z> it's your own fault. Linux doesn't get malware, everyone knows that. YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER.
[13:11] <Nach0z> especially OS/*, it'd be completely unpossible to write any kind of malware for a Mac
[13:11] <cfhowlett> Nach0z not true - not especially helpful eitehr.
[13:12] <Nach0z> cfhowlett: I know it's not true, I was being sarcastic :|
[13:12] <gartral> Nach0z: eh, you're partially right, there are PLENTY of Malicious php scripts/apache-oriented HTML files that are harmful
[13:12] <Nach0z> well, joking with the first line, sarcastic with the second
[13:12] <_nedR> Nach0z, that would mean that Mac is horrible platform to develop for
[13:13] <Nach0z> gartral: don't look directly at the bugs!
[13:16] <someHuman> How do I update Artha( english dictionary )?
[13:16] <someHuman> Sorry for the inappropriate use of parenthesis, I believe I used them wrong.
[13:16] <cfhowlett> someHuman sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install artha
[13:17] <someHuman> cfhowlett: Ty!
[13:18] <someHuman> cfhowlett: How do I check if an app is available in repo and if an app is installed? A command like `yum info software` is what I am looking for, that is inquiring for installed software.
[13:19] <cfhowlett> someHuman apt-cache policy package name will yield 1. available version 2. installed version.
[13:19] <Rory> someHuman: also apt-cache sho
[13:19] <Rory> someHuman: also apt-cache show*
[13:19] <cfhowlett> someHuman note; ONLY works on packages in repos - aliens are a different story
[13:20] <MAR_> Pls for help. A kind of red sign has appeared in my desktop because during updating ubuntu 12.04 something doesnt finished. How can I manage this problem? Thnks
[13:21] <someHuman> cfhowlett: I already have Artha installed, how do I update Artha only?
[13:21] <robkuz> Hi I am having a problem with installing openJDK
[13:21] <robkuz> vagrant@precise64:~$ sudo apt-get install -y openjdk-7-jdk Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed:   ca-certificates-java consolekit cryptsetup-bin dbus-x11 dconf-gsettings-backend dconf-service fontconfig fontconfig-config gconf-service gconf-service-backend gconf2 gconf2-common gvfs gvfs-common gvfs-daemons gvfs-libs hicolor-icon-theme 
[13:21] <cfhowlett> someHuman what version do you have?
[13:21] <someHuman> cfhowlett: 14.04 LTS
[13:21] <cfhowlett> someHuman artha ??
[13:23] <sh0t> hi guys can please anyone help me to make my microsd work under UBuntu?
[13:23] <MAR_> Any help about red sign  during updating?
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: whats your trouble mate?
[13:23] <cfhowlett> someHuman the 2 command I sent previously will update to the latest artha available in the repos.  if you're trying to get  a version newer than that, see if the artha package maintainers offer a PPA or build from source
[13:23] <sh0t> it seems it's not recognized nothingis written on dmesg
[13:24] <sta7ic> robkuz: I think once those packages are installed, there is an additional cmd to run to configure/install
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: did you install gparted?
[13:24] <sh0t> hi lotuspsychje ...i have this microsd which i insert using an adapter
[13:24] <sh0t> yeah i think i have it
[13:24] <sta7ic> robkuz: but since you havent stated the issue, i might have jumped the gun
[13:24] <sh0t> ah no
[13:24] <sh0t> should i install it?
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: does sudo gparted see your microsd?
[13:24] <sh0t> wait a sec please
[13:24] <robkuz> sorry
[13:24] <sh0t> :)
[13:24] <robkuz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7366251/
[13:25] <robkuz> running on
[13:25] <robkuz> vagrant@precise64:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Release:	12.04 Codename:	precise
[13:25] <MAR_> During updating something didnt installed correctelly so, in my desktop has appeeared a red sign. I cant fix it. Pls for advice.
[13:25] <cfhowlett> !patience| MAR_
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> MAR_: whats your ubuntu version?
[13:26] <robkuz> I looked up a few of the packages and indeed missing on the server
[13:26] <MAR_> 12.04L
[13:26] <aguitel> MAR_, do: sudo apt-get install -f
[13:26] <sh0t> hey lotuspsychje gparted doesn't see the microsd ...but just the main disk on /dev/sda
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: what kind of error you getting after plugin the sd card?
[13:27] <sh0t> might it be because ubuntu hasn't recongized the sd reader?
[13:27] <sh0t> no errors lotuspsychje
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: did you check syslog too?
[13:27] <sh0t> nope let me see
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin your sd for realtime
[13:28] <robkuz> Can anybody help me on a problem regarding 12.04 TLS while updating. it did work yesterday but today I get strange errors as seen here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7366251/
[13:29] <sh0t> yeah lotuspsychje nothing is written on syslog
[13:29] <aguitel> robkuz, change mirror
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: no card reader drivers listed on 'additional drivers ' section?
[13:29] <sh0t> how do I check that lotuspsychje ?
[13:30] <robkuz> I tried changing mirrors (country mirrors) but all are missing the requested packages
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: 'software sources icon' last tab additional drivers
[13:30] <Wnt> robkuz: have you run apt-get update recently?
[13:31] <sh0t> sorry lotuspsychje i don't understand
[13:31] <robkuz> Wnt, yes I have run but I get even more errors on that
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: ubuntu start button in your left corner up/then search for the icon: software sources/ and click last tab additional drivers
[13:32] <aguitel> robkuz, check internet connection
[13:32] <sh0t> yeah lotuspsychje i don't have that cause i think i am using unity
[13:32] <sh0t> or something without the start button
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: try from software centre/software sources
[13:32] <robkuz> aguitel: connection is fine I can also see via browser that the servers are there even the directories are visible
[13:33] <sh0t> ah ok !
[13:33] <sh0t> so nothing is shown there mate
[13:33] <robkuz> aguitel: interstingly enough only some of the packages are not there
[13:34] <Tiensbakung> robkuz: you can check with your browser, precise-updates moved to "dists" folder
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: do you know what format your sdcard has?
[13:34] <aguitel> robkuz, this package exist
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: ntfs? fat32?
[13:34] <sh0t> it's formatted in FAT32 if that's what u mean cause on windows 8
[13:34] <sh0t> that's what it said
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: does it show on w8?
[13:35] <sh0t> yep
[13:35] <sh0t> i really think its the READER
[13:35] <sh0t> who it is nt working on ubuntu
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: yes might be, check lshw (from terminal) to see chipset of that reader
[13:35] <robkuz> Tiensbakung: OK and what do I do about this? I mean I havent configured anything just run normal apt-get install
[13:36] <sh0t> ok i'll paste it to u on paste.ubuntu.com
[13:37] <sh0t> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7366325/
[13:39] <Tiensbakung> robkuz: does sudo apt-get -f fix the problem?
[13:39] <robkuz> Tiensbakung: I will try
[13:39] <Tiensbakung> robkuz: the source.list is fine, it should work thought
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: might be a bug sortlike this one: http://askubuntu.com/questions/222528/sd-card-reader-not-working-in-ubuntu-12-04
[13:41] <sh0t> i'll give it a look thanks lout
[13:41] <sh0t> lotuspsychje,
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: maybe try a realtek driver for that cardreader
[13:42] <sh0t> yeah realtek is giving me a lot of troubles also the wireless card doesn't work
[13:42] <robkuz> OK I think I git my error
[13:42] <sh0t> i had to use an external adapter
[13:42] <robkuz> I THOUGHT I had run apt-get update & upgrade - whereas I havent :-(
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: realtek should have linux drivers on their driver page
[13:43] <sh0t> yeah i knwo it should...second last time i checked it didn't have them for the wireless card last time i checked it had but made me crash everything
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> sh0t: did you install ubuntu with 3rd party software enabled and updates during setup?
[13:47] <MaxFrames> re
[13:48] <MaxFrames> can you confirm that, as of 14.04 (since likewise-open has been deprecated and is out of the repos), the (only) way to join an ubuntu machine to an active directory doman is this involved? http://notesonit.blogspot.it/2013/03/howto-powerbroker-identity-services.html
[13:49] <MaxFrames> ^^^ to those instructions one needs to add installing openssh-server which in itself is, well, bad
[13:49] <MaxFrames> if this is the only way, I'll drink the cup of poison, but I really need to be sure
[13:50] <MaxFrames> it used to be a breeze with likewise-open, and it had a nice gui too
[13:50] <MaxFrames> the part about the "fix" (step 11) is particularly crazy
[13:53] <zamba> i need to uninstall everything X.. is there a single command to do so?
[13:54] <Fly80> hello
[13:55] <fabio123> is it safe to try unity8 on trusty?
[13:56] <abailarri> Hello. I installed apache on my ubuntu and when I restarted I see this error: Restarting web server apache2 FAIL
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> !info unity8 | fabio123
[13:56] <abailarri> any suggestion please?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> abailarri: is the service restartable in terminal?
[13:57] <abailarri> ActionParsnip, what do you mean?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> abailarri: sudo service whatever restart
[13:57] <abailarri> yes
[13:58] <twarzo> hey
[13:58] <fabio123> what about systemd on ubuntu?
[13:59] <Fly80> my company gave me a new laptop (dell xps 15 with dislay touch included), and I would like to install the new 14.04 LTS. I actually use kubuntu on my old laptop. Is it the primary Ubuntu good for developing? I use netbeans (c++ and or java), rubymine, local postgresql server and quantum gis for geospatial tools
[13:59] <inti> hi i have 1 question: i want to get my ubuntu to be in the MBR so it is not dependend on the MBR of my Win-Hdd
[13:59] <MaxFrames> in lightdm, how do I make so that _no_ username is selected by default?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> abailarri: does it start ok and is the error resolved later automagically, or do you need to manually start it each time?
[14:00] <MaxFrames> so that all users have to/can directly type their username?
[14:00] <sta7ic> Good morning. Anyone have any better ways/ideas? I have a work laptop that uses wireless to connect to my network and then vpn service to get into work network. I want to be able to VNC into my laptop with my PC. I plugged in cat5 cable into hard wired port and configured it on local network but cannot ping local gateway even though i have an IP. I disconnect VPN and VNC works but lose connection as soon as i vpn back into work. Any ideas?
[14:00] <abailarri> ActionParsnip, I solved it
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> abailarri: nice ;)
[14:00] <inti> pleace write me directly if you can help :)
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> sta7ic: you need to add exceptions in the routes your VPN pushes out
[14:01] <gapegooner> Hello, I currently have dual boot Windows 8  on SSD and ubuntu 13.10 on a secondary HDD (the latter installation is messed so it won't update). I'm trying to upgrade 13.10 to 14.04 via ubuntu liveusb. However when I choose upgrade option in installation I get an error:  "Two file systems are assigned the same mount point (/boot/efi): SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) and SCSI2 (0,0,0),...
[14:01] <gapegooner> ...partition #1 (sdb).
[14:01] <gapegooner> Please correct this by changing mount points."
[14:01] <gapegooner> I didn't find anything in google, and neither partition seem to be mounted (checked in gparted and by 'mount' command). Any suggestions on what I could do?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> inti: boot to ubuntu and you can write to the MBR using grub-install
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> inti: if you used Wubi then you need the windows boot loader
[14:01] <patcha> #bigdady
[14:02] <inti> atm i select ubuntu in the WBL but i want to end that
[14:02] <sta7ic> ActionParsnip: thanks..any ideas on where to look for that? would it be in tcp settings of network adapter or in the cisco anyconnect config?
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> inti  what's WBL ?
[14:04] <inti> windows boot loader
[14:04] <inti> i installed ubuntu in windows a long time ago, now i want to get an own mbr so i dont depend on the windows hdd and can only use the ubuntu hdd
[14:04] <Four23619> Does anyone know where the Ubuntu Software Centre keeps the "metadata" (ratings, billboards etc)? I know it's a repo somewhere, was told once, but can't remember.
[14:05] <k1l> inti: you need to reinstall.
[14:05] <gapegooner> inti: i think you have to reinstall from ubuntu image
[14:05] <sta7ic> ActionParsnip: I am not sure Cisco Anyconnect will let me do that. Also why would it matter, if i have another NIC, shouldnt it be independent of the VPN?
[14:05] <oiiiii> hello, how can i go directly from 12.04.4 LTS to 14.04 LTS ? update manager want me to upgrade to 13.10?
[14:05] <k1l> inti: the wubi install is not meant to be a permanent install or to be excluded form windows
[14:05] <oiiiii> do i have t upgrade each version one by one?
[14:05] <cHarNe2_> hi guys, how can i change 14.04 to use classic-mode, without compiz. im using auto-login. what file should i change?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> sta7ic: if the routes are getting mangld then you could have all the NICs in the world
[14:06] <k1l> oiiiii: wait for the 14.04.1 release to get the official LTS upgrade offered.
[14:06] <gapegooner> oiiiii: as far as i know you have to either upgrade to 13.10 first or download image of 14.04 and install it from usb/dvd
[14:06] <k1l> oiiiii: or use the developer update
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> oiiiii  if you use a live usb stick, you can do it the way you want
[14:06] <inti> :( oh no ... thats a hard setback ... and puts me in a little bit of trouble
[14:06] <oiiiii> okay thanks guys.!
[14:07] <k1l> gapegooner: MonkeyDust with the developer upgrade the LTS upgrade works. itsjust not official so far
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> sta7ic: if the routing means you cannot reach the other system then the traffic will never get through, you may need to remove some of the published routes once they are added
[14:07] <gapegooner> Guys I'm getting an error trying to update from live usb: "Two file systems are assigned the same mount point (/boot/efi): SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) and SCSI2 (0,0,0),partition #1 (sdb).Please correct this by changing mount points.". Any suggestions on what I can do?
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> did I just read the word "wubi"?
[14:07] <sta7ic> ActionParsnip: Ok so maybe from cmd line I have to add new route is what your saying if Cisco Anyconnect doesnt let me add them in the config?
[14:08] <basketball> was ubuntu the first company to come up with converge
[14:08] <DexterF> hi
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> basketball  better aks in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:09] <cfhowlett> gapegoo wubi is the LAST thing method you should be using.  it was ONLY ever meant for testing - NOT for long-ter.m installation.  consider your options
[14:09] <DexterF> trying to install ubuntu on an old Fujitsu laptop, has Via Unichrome S3 graphics, comes up all garbled, barely readable. X runs but is barely usable for installation, let alone desktop use
[14:09] <gapegooner> cfhowlett: i'm not using wubi, I'm booted in ubuntu 14.04 liveusb
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> basketball  and ubuntu is a product, canonical is the company behin it
[14:09] <DexterF> now, is there a fallback?
[14:10] <basketball> MonkeyDust,  so yes
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> basketball  yes to what?
[14:10] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|DexterF
[14:10] <MaxFrames> how do I disable the username listing in the logon screen? and leave only the username text box in place?
[14:10] <basketball> it was the first company
[14:10] <Goutham> Hello
[14:10] <Krishnamurti> boys,which tool do you like to download ed2k resouce?
[14:10] <gapegooner> cfhowlett: i'm just trying to upgrade my 13.10 ubuntu
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> basketball  don't know, but type /j #ubuntu-offtopic and azsk there
[14:11] <cfhowlett> gapegooner reading ...
[14:11] <Goutham> Is it possible to install Ubuntu in a USB Drive itself so that I can carry it anywhere?
[14:11] <jozefk> Goutham, yes
[14:11] <gapegooner> Goutham: yes
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> Goutham  it's called a !persistent usb installation
[14:11] <junixbr> hi there
[14:12] <Goutham> jozefk: The problem is my Hard Drive is broken and I am going on a 10 day tour tmrw.
[14:12] <Goutham> ;s
[14:12] <cfhowlett> !uefi|gapegooner I suspect this is a UEFI issue, but I've no experience to advise you.
[14:12] <Goutham> So I have a USB stick with ISO extracted into it
[14:12] <jozefk> Goutham, ok. install it on USB and enjoy your tour :)
[14:12] <cfhowlett> Goutham "extracted" is not the way to install to usb
[14:12] <cfhowlett> !persistence
[14:12] <junixbr> I'm trying to generate a ubuntu customized cd
[14:13] <gapegooner> cfhowlett: If I understand the error correctly, I could just somehow remove mount point for sda1 (windows efi partition).  I don't know how though.
[14:13] <junixbr> but in the documentation has: apt-get install --yes discover...
[14:13] <Fly80> is it enough a 1.9 GB pen drive to save ubuntu installer?
[14:13] <junixbr> E: Unable to locate package discover
[14:13] <Goutham> And I am using the Live Ubuntu to come here. Is it possible to use it to install ubuntu in itself. I dont have any other pen drive or external drives
[14:13] <jozefk> Fly80, enough
[14:14] <jozefk> Goutham, yes it is enough, if you boot the system from anywhere else except from that USB where you want to install it on
[14:14] <gapegooner> Goutham: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick, those tools offer persistence file option.
[14:14] <Goutham> ty. Will check it out
[14:14] <Goutham> WIll ask if I need any other help ^_^
[14:15] <Bluewolf> Hi all, how does one permission to move a file onto the main filesystem?
[14:15] <junixbr> is there this package: discover ???
[14:15] <jozefk> Bluewolf, sudo mv
[14:16] <junixbr> in documentation, they said: "Before Maverick, discover named to discover1. Adjust the preceding lines accordingly."
[14:16] <junixbr> but is not my case
[14:16] <inti> so now i download ubuntu 14.04 ... and that i have to install and in that process my files from the ubuntu win-install get lost?
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> !find discover
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> !info discover
[14:17] <k1l> inti: yes
[14:17] <Bluewolf> jozefk, Ah am I to add in more other than sudo mv?
[14:17] <k1l> inti: that is one of the big disadvantages of wubi
[14:17] <junixbr> ow.. is universe
[14:17] <junixbr> MonkeyDust, ubottu thank you
[14:17] <jozefk> Bluewolf, yes, of course. the path of the file/directory and the path of the destination
[14:17] <k1l> inti: you can put the files you need on the windows partition and copy them from there after the reinstall
[14:17] <DexterF> cfhowlett: not better :(
[14:18] <k1l> inti: support please only in here, thanks
[14:18] <cfhowlett> DexterF ????
[14:18] <DexterF> cfhowlett: nomodeset
[14:18] <cfhowlett> DexterF ah. sorry, don't know what else to suggest.  re-state your issue for the channel.
[14:19] <Fly80> are the display touch of Dell XPS 15 supported by Ubuntu? should I activate something when I'm going to install ubuntu  14.04 on it?
[14:20] <DexterF> garbled screen output on a VIA UniChrome S3 video chip on a laptop, even when booting with nomodeset. 14.04 32b live
[14:20]  * jozefk got to go for meeting now
[14:20] <DexterF> there's some hint on UniChrome in the wiki regarding xorg.conf, but this is live and I'd like to see it working before installing
[14:20] <inti> yeah i did so already with my windows files ... the hdd has serious flaws and does not work properply anymore
[14:21] <cfhowlett> inti if WINDOWS is breaking then your wubi is ALSO guaranteed to break.
[14:21] <m0e42> qexit
[14:28] <Fanthomas90> hi!
[14:28] <Fanthomas90> what could be the meaning of this line: eval su - "git" -c $(echo \")$0 "$@"$(echo \"); exit; ?
[14:28] <DexterF> cfhowlett: vesa driver works. I'll stik to that, it's gonna be a typewriter mostly anyway
[14:29] <cfhowlett> DexterF you got it going?  good work!
[14:29] <DexterF> welll, reverting to vesa is more shennanigans than solving it, but it'll do ;)
[14:31] <bezaban> yay, got the upgrade process from dapper to hardy working
[14:34] <mmazing> is there a way to move window controls to the right in unity for 14.04 yet?
[14:34] <gregor3000> what is this? : sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[14:34]  * gregor3000 confused
[14:35] <mmazing> try "apt-add-repository"
[14:35] <mar77i> hello #ubuntu. We have noticed this before. my boss and I we're using the same samba share. He just doesn't see all the files I see, but I see all he sees/creates.
[14:35] <cfhowlett> gregor3000 sudo - no colon
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> mmazing  find tweak-tool in the repos
[14:35] <milosn> hmmm quick question ... can ubuntu desktop install be instructed to install only the minimal set of packages?
[14:35] <yossarianuk> software-properties-common:
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> mar77i: restart the service on the server, or reboot it
[14:35] <k1l> mar77i: look at file permissions
[14:35] <yossarianuk> gregor3000>: install software-properties-common:
[14:35] <milosn> like i dont want anything, ill add it myself later
[14:36] <mmazing> MonkeyDust: i've tried tweak-tool with no luck, it just does nothing :(
[14:36] <yossarianuk> gregor3000: install software-properties-common
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> gregor3000: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> mmazing  then !ccsm maybe
[14:36] <milosn> also if it cant, can server install do encrypted partition installs?
[14:36] <Artemis3> milosn, i suggest you do that with the ubuntu-minimal iso (use command line option)
[14:36] <milosn> Artemis3: whats the command line option?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> milosn: why would you want to?
[14:37] <mar77i> he connects with nautilus' connection thingy. I had looked at file permissions before, but I couldn't determine why one file would be displayed and another wouldn't
[14:37] <mmazing> MonkeyDust ccsm also no dice - apparantly the unity developers made a "design decision" and restricted the window controls to be on the left
[14:37] <Artemis3> milosn, a choice in grub to launch the installer, you could just use expert mode using priority=low
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> mmazing  yes, like in mac OS, guess you have to get used to it
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> gregor3000: no need to pastebin, its a single line of output....
[14:38] <Artemis3> milosn, when you boot from the ubuntu-minimal iso you will see a menu with choices, and one of them says command line only install or such
[14:38] <milosn> Artemis3: ah, so i pass priority=low on minimal iso boot up? and thats expert mode?
[14:38] <mar77i> oh
[14:38] <k1l> mar77i: look at the NAS with "ls -al" and see fi the files got other owner and group and the file permissions
[14:38] <milosn> Artemis3: ok, so i dont need to type anything ... its an option
[14:38] <Artemis3> milosn, if you prefer expert mode yes, its the same as debian installer
[14:38] <lord4163> How do I enable mod_rewrite in Ubuntu 14.04?
[14:38] <milosn> excellent ... Artemis3 tell me one more thing ... i can encrypt partitions, same like in debian?
[14:39] <mar77i> k1l: I found a discrepancy that matches the subset of files he sees (o+r)
[14:39] <mmazing> pretty terrible "design decision" in my opinion, seems to go against the ideals of linux in general to restrict people to a certain layout
[14:39] <mmazing> i suppose i could switch to gnome
[14:39] <lord4163> found it
[14:39] <Artemis3> milosn, yes the installer will allow you to set it up at some point, try for yourself the iso is a mere 20mb download
[14:40] <milosn> Artemis3: cool, i might play a bit at home in a VM ...
[14:40] <milosn> and then try on real HW
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> mmazing  yes, gnome-shell has the buttons on the right --  lxde, too, i think
[14:40]  * milosn needs updated OS for workstation at work
[14:40] <milosn> i got debian7 atm
[14:40] <lord4163> milosn: me too still on 12.04 :(
[14:41] <Artemis3> milosn, try it in a virtual machine, i use qemu (with aqemu) for tests :)
[14:41] <milosn> lord4163: yeah, just i cant stand DEs ... fluxbox rules
[14:41] <milosn> :)
[14:41] <milosn> and 20 workspaces
[14:41] <milosn> :D
[14:41] <lord4163> milosn: haha maybe go arch? :)
[14:41] <milosn> lord4163: i run arch at home, its fun but to high maintinance for me ... at work i dont wanna think about updates
[14:42] <mmazing> MonkeyDust: not only that but they allow you to pick where the hell you want them, if you like them on the left
[14:42] <milosn> just wanna update, and ... forget
[14:42] <milosn> :)
[14:42] <Artemis3> milosn, the minimal install can leave you a bare bones command line system, you could later apt-get install just what you like
[14:42] <milosn> ubuntu LTS and debian stable are good choices
[14:42] <milosn> Artemis3: yeah thats what i am after :)
[14:42] <rypervenche> milosn: Debian stable is good for that.
[14:43] <cHarNe2_> i run arch on everything exept 1 laptop where i run manjaro. now im installing ubuntu for my brother
[14:43] <milosn> rypervenche: yes, but please give me firefox with google search ...
[14:43] <milosn> i got some firefox from some repo ... they striped out google search
[14:43] <milosn> :)
[14:43] <milosn> i dont care for duck go go
[14:43] <milosn> i hope ubuntu dont do the same?
[14:43] <Artemis3> milosn, in debian you have to add a repository if all you want is firefox, and the search is simply added afterwards
[14:44] <milosn> Artemis3: i still didnt figure out how to do it
[14:44] <milosn> :D
[14:44] <Artemis3> milosn, no, the one in ubuntu is the same as in other platforms
[14:44] <mar77i> I'm not supposed to look at the server.... it's one of those broken linuxes
[14:44] <milosn> excellent
[14:45] <Artemis3> milosn, in ubuntu firefox is included in the default repositories, you don't need to add it manually
[14:45] <milosn> cool
[14:46] <junixbr> why pidgin is crashing on 14.04?
[14:48] <trijntje> junixbr: start it from the terminal to see the error messages
[14:49] <junixbr> trijntje, ok, let do this
[14:49] <junixbr> let me*
[14:50] <hansford> Having problem  with Firefox after update.....can't see the url  (I get a one long bar where the address is
[14:51] <asturel> is there a way to have more than 4 virtual desktops?
[14:52] <trijntje> !cssm | asturel
[14:52] <Rory> asturel: Install the package "unity-tweak-tool" I believe you can have up to 64
[14:52] <asturel> oh
[14:52] <asturel> and another issue, often my apps just didnt show on the desktop
[14:52] <sensae> After installing Ubuntu 14.04 the network menu is missing from the menu bar. I haven't been able to figure out any way to get it back.
[14:52] <asturel> when iim in the preview mode or whats that
[14:52] <asturel> just after i click to it and reopen preview
[14:53] <asturel> is that a feature or bug
[14:53] <asturel> i see only the application corner only
[14:53] <Bluewolf> Anyone here know much about playing around with Ubuntu themes who I could chat to?
[14:54] <ChrisFR06> Hi, anyone here ?
[14:54] <cer> Hi everybody! I need to know how to format an edternal disk so that it is accessible from Mac, Linux and even Windows
[14:54] <cfhowlett> ChrisFR06 only a few thousand.  ask your #ubuntu questions
[14:54] <sta7ic> asturel: in unity there is unity-tweak-tool or something like that where u can set higher # of virtual desktops, also compiz has setting if you dont use unity
[14:54] <ChrisFR06> :p
[14:54] <cer> not FAT, I need somehting better, that allows for larger files and better time stamp
[14:54] <sta7ic> cer: ntfs?
[14:54] <sensae> cer: I don't think there are any other options, Mac won't write to ntfs AFAIK
[14:55] <MnCC> hi any network specialists in ?
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> MnCC  ask your question and wait
[14:55] <ChrisFR06> I have created a theme for Ubuntu to remove the Unity boxes from the launcher (it only works on 14.04 LTS or higher) so could anyone try my theme out and say me if it works ?? :/
[14:55] <mheinke> i loves me some unity these days. im getting really dependant on the dash
[14:55] <asturel> sta7ic i already increased it via unity tweak tool
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> ChrisFR06: make a VM and test there
[14:56] <ChrisFR06> already did
[14:56] <ChrisFR06> it works
[14:56] <ChrisFR06> but on my fathers pc not :(
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> ChrisFR06: then why does a user have to test?
[14:56] <cer> sensae: ouch .... I was serisoulsy hoping something better than NTFS, but if even NTFS is not supported by MAC ....
[14:56] <ChrisFR06> not working on the pc of my father (ubuntu 14.14)
[14:56] <cer> sensae: sta7ic: any alternatives? xfs? jfs? zfs?
[14:56] <MnCC> network fails after increasing network traffic, goes for wired and wireless, im on 12.04lts , any ideas ?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> ChrisFR06: 14.04 ;)
[14:56] <ChrisFR06> yes sorry :p
[14:56] <sta7ic> cer: i dont think windows is going to support any of those
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> ChrisFR06: 14.14 will never exist :)
[14:57] <ChrisFR06> So, who wants to test my theme xD :(
[14:57] <ChrisFR06> Ok whatever, I'll try somewere else :/
[14:57] <sta7ic> ChrisFR06: no one
[14:57] <sensae> cer: Mac will read NTFS, it just won't write. Unfortunately you're stuck to fat32 if you want complete platform-agnostic support
[14:58] <cer> sensae: oh no .... the crappiest file system on the planet .... no ext2/3/4 support?
[14:58] <tado> hey folks. need some help here! i had a problem with bluetooth and was suggested to reset bios to default. the result is that now at boot the screen goes black and appears the message "Operating system not found". Can anyone help me to fix it?
[14:58] <sensae> cer: The other option is sticking an ext4/xfs/bfs disk on a file server and access over NFS/samba. Then you'll get a nice filesystem and access from any system.
[14:58] <sensae> cer: Windows won't read/write ext4
[14:58] <sta7ic> ActionParsnip: i pasted u pastebin of my route table if you could take a look. trying to figure out what to delete to be able to ping local network/etc
[14:58] <Lati> MELI 97
[14:58] <Meli97> lautiiiiiii
[14:58] <Lati> SADASDAS
[14:58] <Lati> SFDASFG
[14:58] <Meli97> hsdfchswhcvfuvuhv
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> sta7ic: i'd ask in ##networking
[14:59] <Meli97> como estas?????????
[14:59] <ChrisFR06> Other question ? is it possible that newer kernels make some pcs slower ? I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 so kernel 3.13 and it was SUPER LAGGY so I had to install kernel 3.12 and now I'm running smoothly, is this normal?????
[14:59] <sta7ic> ActionParsnip: ok thx
[14:59] <Meli97> gigcugucgeucv
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> cer: sensae: not without 3rd party software, but then again it is Windows
[14:59] <Meli97> sddasdasdasdasdsdasdsadsddsdsdd !!!!!
[14:59] <Meli97> uhuvhuhrvuhrvhur
[14:59] <Lati> HELLO GOD MORRNING
[14:59] <Meli97> hrvrgvhbvubhfrhhhjh
[14:59] <trijntje> ChrisFR06: shouldn't happen, best file a bug about it 'ubuntu-bug linux'
[14:59] <DJones> Meli97: Please stop that
[14:59] <ChrisFR06> shutupshutupshutup
[14:59] <ChrisFR06> ok thanks :)
[14:59] <cer> ActionParsnip: sensae:not even using ParagonExtFS
[14:59] <sensae> ActionParsnip: Is that stable/reliable software though? Last I looked it was very experimental
[14:59] <Meli97> hello
[14:59] <cer> ActionParsnip: sensae? ?
[15:00] <trijntje> milosn:  please stop spamming the channel
[15:00] <Meli97> in fine!!
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> Meli97  hit alt-f4 for more fun
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> sensae: doubt it, not used it though as I don t use Windows
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> cer: sensae: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/08/access-ext4-ext3-or-ext2-partitions-in.html
[15:00] <sensae> cer: A google shows that Mac won't read/write ext4 either, though Paragon might work for Windows
[15:01] <fabi> llnjdjqdwe
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> cer: sensae: if you want to share data between Ubuntu and Windows, make a central NTFS partition. This will accommodate the shortcomings in Windows
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> fabi  you too: alt-f4
[15:01] <ChrisFR06> uname -r
[15:01] <ChrisFR06> oh sorry wrong windows..
[15:01] <fabi> meli
[15:01] <sensae> cer: Actually, you could get Paragon's NTFS for Mac software, and then use NTFS on all three systems
[15:01] <sensae> cer: I haven't used their software though
[15:02] <cer> ActionParsnip: I wanted to make sure also Mac was supported. The only thing I found using google was actually Paragon.
[15:02] <Talez> hey, i "accidently" installed unity on my ubuntu in virtualbox. now it only boots directly into the graphical unity-login-prompt but i can't log in there (failed to start session). is there any way to get into the terminal from here? (disclaimer: i'm completely new to linux)
[15:02] <milosn> trijntje: aye?
[15:03] <daftykins> Talez: try hitting ctrl+alt+f1
[15:03] <Guest46856> could you please tell alternative to steam
[15:03] <cer> ActionParsnip: would you go for NTFS or ext4?
[15:03] <trijntje> Talez: ctrl + alt + f7 should get you back to graphical environment
[15:03] <Talez> daftykins: ahhh thanks, that shortcut will instantly be written down in my linux-stuff.txt :D
[15:03] <cer> ActionParsnip: sensae: it seems that Paragon for NTFS on Mac doe snot work too well.
[15:03] <Talez> awesome thank you guys
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> cer: NTFS can be written and read by both
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> cer: no idea about Mac. They are of no interest to me
[15:05] <sensae> ActionParsnip: NTFS can only be read by Mac without a third party driver
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> sensae: ok
[15:06] <cer> sensae: do you mean *with*?
[15:06] <iris> hELLO
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> cer: what do you use Mac for?
[15:07] <sandy_> f
[15:07] <Talez> sigh ok i just broke everything... back to sqare one.
[15:07] <cer> a friend uses it for photo editing, so that we can use the external disk to do editing on both machines
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> cer: you can edit photos in any OS......
[15:08] <sensae> cer: Well, yeah. It looks like your options are paragon for ntfs, paragon/something else for ext4 for mac and windows, or fat32. It's unfortunate but you'll run into shortcomings in one of the three OSes with other filesystems
[15:08] <sandy_> Can we creae disc in linux like we have in windows...?
[15:08] <cer> sensae: ActionParsnip: not if you cannot access them and save them because they are stored in a filesystem that the OS cannot access
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> cer: then why use Mac, when other OSes can do the job
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> personally I dont get why Mac even exists now, its not special in any way
[15:09] <sensae> cer: I think he meant why not do all your photo editing in Ubuntu/Windows/your preference?
[15:09] <cer> ActionParsnip: I just told you, my friend, with whom we do coediting, uses Mac
[15:09] <Artemis3> set up a file server with any old machine or use your decent os machine as file storage serving using something like sftp or nfs
[15:09] <sensae> cer: Do you have RAWs bigger than 4gb?
[15:10] <cer> sensae: yes, I have a couple > 20Gb
[15:11] <sandy_> unopaste: can we create disc in linux
[15:11] <sensae> cer: Is this the final place the images get stored, or just temporary storage while you edit?
[15:12] <cer> sensae: it is for two separate places, one the final the other the mirror
[15:12] <justpie_work> Hey all. I tried to install a fresh copy of ubuntu 14.04 on a new disk. It installs fine but when i try to boot up off the disc it stays at a black screen with a flashing cursor. Does anyone have any ideas on what may cause it?
[15:13] <magnum54> justpie: clean the cd
[15:14] <trijntje> justpie_work: hold shift during boot and check the cd for defects
[15:14] <sensae> cer: If you don't mind some terminal tweaking, you can force the Mac to mount the NTFS partition read-write. It just won't by default in the GUI
[15:14] <sensae> cer: http://learnaholic.me/2013/11/11/enable-ntfs-write-on-mac-os-x-mavericks/
[15:15] <justpie_work> trijntje : I tried installing off of a USB and a CD. Both caused the same thing. maybe it was an issue w/ the iso?
[15:15] <cer> sensae: thanks very useful!!
[15:16] <trijntje> justpie_work: could be, but checking the cd for defects will catch that. It could also be that the pc is too old for ubuntu, in that case xubuntu should boot since it has a non-pae kernel
[15:16] <justpie_work> trijntje : Is 6 years old considered too old? :-p
[15:16] <sensae> cer: np. GL, I hope it works out.
[15:17] <trijntje> justpie_work: no, 6 years old should run ubuntu fine, my pc is older than that
[15:17] <Aaruni> I know of 10 year old PCs running ubuntu just fine
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> justpie_work: mine too
[15:18] <cer> sensae: strangely enough, the WD MyBook that just arrived is not mounting automatically
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> trijntje: 1.6Ghz single core sempron with 2Gb RAM and Nvidia 6150LE GPU, ran it great
[15:18] <justpie_work> trijntje : Thanks! I'm kind of at a loss. Ill try to holding shift on boot when i get home.
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> trijntje: what are your specs
[15:19] <sensae> cer: in Ubuntu?
[15:19] <magnum54> justpie_work:  we are assuming that you extracted the iso to write to the CD.
[15:19] <cer> sensae: yep
[15:19] <syeekick> anyone got any idea why unity crashes and i have to restart lightdm?
[15:19] <sensae> cer: Do you know what filesystem it's formatted with?
[15:19] <trijntje> ActionParsnip: intel core 2 duo with 3.5 GB ram
[15:19] <justpie_work> magnum54 : yes. i burned the iso correctly :-p
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> trijntje: oads more than I have
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> *loads
[15:20] <cer> sensae: it says "unknown"
[15:20] <Wilkim> hello
[15:20] <Wilkim> how is everyone?
[15:20] <onca> great thanks for asking
[15:20] <sensae> cer: is it an HD MyBook for Mac?
[15:20] <cfhowlett> Wilkim ask your ubuntu support question
[15:20] <Wilkim> great! and your welcomn
[15:21] <cer> sensae: nope, we bought the normal ones
[15:21] <Wilkim> lol i am, i alwaysask how everyone is when i join a room, sometimes the answers r funny
[15:21] <cer> sensae: the ones for Mac are the same only formatted for Mac
[15:21] <Wilkim> I wanted to know if it's possible to mount a folder when it becomes available or if running "mount -a" in a cron is the only way?
[15:22] <sensae> cer: Yeah, that's why I asked. If gparted is listing the filesystem as unknown it can't read it for some reason. The only thing I could think to suggest would be to reformat it in gparted
[15:22] <sensae> cer: Hopefully you can figure it out or get some support from the channel. I have to go. Good luck!
[15:23] <aiki46> flavio
[15:23] <cer> sen_afk: thanks for all your help
[15:23] <cer> sorry sen_afk ! Aimining at sensae ....
[15:23] <mitch-_> what's the best way to report a bug for aesthetics regarding 14.04 and VMWare Workstation?? it's an ubuntu issue but didn't used to do it in 12.04...
[15:26] <Wilkim> how can I have ubuntu check on an interval if a NFS or CIFS share is available and if so mount it (the entry is in /etc/fstab)
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> Wilkim  with a cron task maybe, every 5 minutes or so
[15:28] <Wilkim> MonkeyDust: thank you! if an entry in there is already mounted, that won't cause any issues?
[15:28] <Wilkim> like it doesn't remount the entry right it will just ignore that mount
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> Wilkim  try it, then you are the expert -- backup first if you are experimenting
[15:30] <mgolisch> Wilkim: youd have to adjust your cronjob to do so
[15:31] <Wilkim> thank you! :)
[15:31] <mgolisch> also there is stuff like autofs
[15:31] <mgolisch> it does mount when your try to access something
[15:33] <Barfii> hi
[15:33] <Barfii> checking for g++... no
[15:33] <Barfii> checking for c++... no
[15:33] <Barfii> checking for gpp... no
[15:33] <Barfii> checking for aCC... no
[15:33] <Barfii> checking for CC... no
[15:33] <Barfii> checking for cxx... no
[15:33] <Barfii> checking for cc++... no
[15:33] <unopaste> Barfii you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:33] <mitch-_> is anyone familiar with the bug reporting process? and what the "taskbar sticking over top of vmware" would be categorized as??
[15:34] <cfhowlett> !bug|mitch-_
[15:34] <Wilkim> I got one other question, how could I have a directory like /media/storage that has contents in (directory and files)
[15:34] <mitch-_> well... it's pretty specific. so I'm not sure that reporting process will work. I will need to attach a picture or maybe a video even....
[15:35] <Wilkim> is it possible to make it a mount point or does the directory need to be empty
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> Wilkim: what are you trying to do exactly mount something?
[15:37] <Wilkim> Well to be honest I work for a company with a group of developers, long story short we have a development box VERY specifically set up
[15:38] <somsip> Wilkim: if you mount over an existing directory that has files in it, the files are no longer accessible until the volume is unmounted. They're "hidden"
[15:38] <Wilkim> thats ok, thats my intention
[15:39] <Wilkim> some of our users use Mac, some use Windows, and some use Linux. So the development box was to make it where we would CIFS or NFS the our individual shared directory and our editor would directly edit in place the file. via ssh we would use git to manage the files and so on. our development machines are laptops we take home with us
[15:39] <somsip> Wilkim: so access to the directory will access the files on the mounted volume if it's mounted, and the underlying directory if it's not mounted.
[15:41] <Wilkim> I was planning on making the development box mount a shared folder on each developer's laptop when the developer was in, there files would be on the box. In the event the developer wasn't in, it would fall back to the files hidden by the mount (or over mount), and such
[15:41] <Wilkim> its confusing and i dont know how to word it better =/
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> Wilkim: so your end goal is to have a shared folder, everyone can access tru ssh?
[15:42] <Wilkim> right now files are hosted on the development box, but in the end i want it to be on each developers laptop and the development box mounts said specific developers share if available or fallback to the last "master" branch commit
[15:42] <somsip> Wilkim: that sounds like how it will work, but difficult to understand your use case exactly. Maybe better to init a bare git repo on the dev box, and have everyone manage their files through that. but difficult to suggest workabel solutions without realy knowing what you're after
[15:43] <Wilkim> each developer use to have their own VM, but each time we did an update to the underlying system we used I'd have to go and update 12 machines which was a pain in the ass and would take 2 days, now it takes 1 hour
[15:43] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, how does the !bug work?
[15:43] <cfhowlett> mitch-_ read the factoid for details
[15:43] <cfhowlett> !bug
[15:43] <Wilkim> somsip: that's exactly what I am after
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> Wilkim: maybe a nas server on the network, that everyone can remotely access too?
[15:44] <Wilkim> right now our IDE chokes on CIFS / NFS when it trys to do the code complete (every few minutes), among other issues
[15:44] <mitch-_> !bug
[15:44] <Wilkim> lotuspsychje: right now it is essentially a nas server
[15:44] <somsip> Wilkim: okay - one for more research for you then. Final word from me about updating multiple servers at once - just started looking at ansible over ssh and it's tidy. YMMV
[15:44] <mitch-_> oh ok i'll try that
[15:45] <Wilkim> I will look into that, thank you :)
[15:45] <somsip> Wilkim: np - good luck. AFK now
[15:45] <Wilkim> wat i ended up doing in the end was write a bash script that would do everything, then I had a bash script to look for this "update.sh" script on the nas we have here, pull it in and run it
[15:45] <Wilkim> like a poor man's automated update :)
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> Wilkim: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys got other ideas about your issue?
[15:46] <Wilkim> I could ask but I'm just gonna do the mount solution for now
[15:47] <Wilkim> should fix nearly every solution
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> Wilkim: okay :p
[15:47] <Wilkim> thank you all very much! :)
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> Wilkim: np and good luck!
[15:48] <Cheekio> my connection to x serve keeps crashing
[15:48] <Cheekio> I can drop to console via ctrl-alt-f1, but xorg is still running in the background (I can hear it playing youtube)
[15:49] <Cheekio> at which point, if I sudo service lightdm restart, I can jump back into working, but restarting lightdm loses all my work
[15:49] <Cheekio> Is there a way to kick just the xserver connection?
[15:50] <param_> hey
[15:50] <param_> My laptop speaker not working, sound coming fine in earphones,,, problem in ubuntu 12.04
[15:50] <Cheekio> My kern.log, syslog, and xorg.log are all terribly unhelpful but the issue is obviously with the fact I've got nvidia drivers running doing their nivida prime thing.
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> !sound | param_
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: ubuntu version? grafix card chipset? loaded driver?
[15:51] <Indy_> Hi, on 14.04 fresh install running the amazon app, freezes the whole UI
[15:51] <Indy_> tested it more than once
[15:51] <Cheekio> 14.04, nvidia quadro K1100M, driver is nividia-331.
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> Indy_  I had that too, was forces to return to 12.04
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> forced*
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: did you clean install or upgrade?
[15:52] <Cheekio> upgraded
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> Indy_  i guess it's hardware compatibility issue
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: maybe a clean install will sort you out
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: did you check additional drivers section?
[15:53] <Cheekio> I don't know if that's an option today.
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: upgrades are always tricky
[15:53] <wisescribe7> There's slow typing in my browser, can anyone help me fix this?
[15:54] <Cheekio> The problem is that the crash is infrequent enough that I can work on the machine just fine
[15:54] <Cheekio> So... yeah. I'd like to submit a good bug report on the issue, but without helpful logs that's kind of a shame
[15:54] <Cheekio> kind of not an option*
[15:55] <param_> @ubboty: yesterday speakers were working fine !! what might be issue ?
[15:55] <wisescribe7> Can anyone please help me figure out why there's slow typing in my browser in Ubuntu?
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: did you install that 331 driver from previous ubuntu?
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> !details | wisescribe7
[15:55] <Cheekio> I completely flattened the driver installs before going to 14.04
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> param_  ubottu is a bot, address the channel
[15:56] <Cheekio> Mostly because without nvidia-prime, my optimus machine wasn't supported, officially or unofficially.
[15:56] <scheuri> anyone using xfce on xubuntu 14.04? How do I get my task bar in the lower middle back which offers links to my most used applications?
[15:56] <param_> my speakers stopped working today , sound is coming in headphones
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> !optimus | Cheekio
[15:57] <param_> i am using ubuntu 12.04
[15:57] <Cheekio> Haha, have you used bumblebee?
[15:57] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: In any browsers I use with Ubuntu, typing is very slow, especially when on sites like Facebook.
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: ubuntu version? firefox?
[15:58] <sudormrf> hey guys, is the following package what I would be looking for if I wanted a server to be the primary DNS server in a network? bind9
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: i would go for a clean install, and see what driver it loads by default
[15:58] <wisescribe7> wisescribe7: kubuntu 14.04....it happens with both firefox and chrome
[15:58] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: kubuntu 14.04....it happens with both firefox and chrome
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[15:59] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: No
[16:00] <Cheekio> lotuspsychje: I'm pretty sure a clean install would help, but again that's not an option today. I was asking about reconnecting to xserver though, is there a way to do that?
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: you could always try enter grub/recoverymode/failsafeX
[16:01] <Cheekio> I'd need to restart for that, if I restart lightdm I'm good to go without a reboot
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: or fix broken packages from there
[16:01] <Cheekio> It's like a hiccup in the xserver connection, restarting lightdm from console will solve the issue instantly
[16:02] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: No, I didn't install Kubuntu restricted extras.
[16:02] <Cheekio> If I reboot, restart lightdm, anything, the machine runs fine again for a few days until the xserver connection drops out for no discernable reason.
[16:02] <junka> !info firefox
[16:02] <junka> 29 :x
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: not sure if it will fix, but worth a try: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: does chromium-browser type slow too? did you try text editors if their slow too?
[16:03] <Barfii> .
[16:03] <Barfii> hi
[16:05] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: I don't have Chromium. I didn't try the text editor.
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: your kubuntu system speed is good?
[16:05] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: I just tried the text editor. I can type in it fine.
[16:06] <param_> hello,   I was following this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting , my speaker sound not coming,  and when i run command list-sinks-- it shows output for speaker as : 		analog-output-speaker: Speakers (priority 10000, available: no)
[16:06] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: Pentium 4 2.8 ghz w/Hyper Threading, 3GB RAM
[16:06] <param_> it should be available: yes , i think
[16:06] <param_> how to fix it ?
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: not sure what could cause this mate sorry
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: can you try launch firefox from a terminal, maybe it will show you errors?
[16:08] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: What would be the command for that?
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: type firefox in terminal
[16:10] <wisescribe7> This is what came up in the terminal, don't know what it means: (process:5129): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[16:10] <wisescribe7> @lotuspsychje
[16:11] <eviljames> Just updated to 14.04 last night.
[16:11] <Chaz6> Hi there, do you know what the partition type code is for UDF using gdisk (GPT)?
[16:11] <eviljames> What makes it a good idea to change Apache's docroot during an update WITHOUT informing the user?
[16:11] <Chaz6> It doesn't seem to be listed in its help
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> eviljames: surely change control and customer contact is good here?
[16:13] <eviljames> ActionParsnip: wat.
[16:13] <eviljames> ActionParsnip: So, I should keep config files in a vcs just in case ubuntu decides to clobber them?
[16:14] <eviljames> (don't get me wrong, I've got config files in a vcs for client-facing stuff - this was on my desktop)
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: did you upgraded to kubuntu or clean install?
[16:14] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: upgrade
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> eviljames: keeping backups of data and configs will ensure changes are undoable etc
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: found a bug that might be relevant: https://support.mozilla.org/nl/questions/973503
[16:15] <eviljames> ActionParsnip: So, this makes it a useful and acceptable action to clobber config files without user interaction during an update?
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: can you maybe test kubuntu liveCD and see if browsers have same lag?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> eviljames: if conf files are to be changed during upgrades you will be offered to keep the existing or use the one from the package
[16:16] <eviljames> Yeah, that's simply false.
[16:16] <eviljames> That *may* be the case some of the time, but certainly not with /etc/apache2/sites-availble/000-default.conf - even though it has been modified since installation time, it is overwritten at update time.
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> eviljames: again, backups are good. You could report a bug
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> updates live an own life, you never know you will get
[16:19] <Black_Claw> Hi all. :)
[16:20] <Guest52740> hi ;)
[16:21] <Indy_> Hello, I have auto-login enabled (without asking for the password), so I get asked for my user password to unlock the default keyring, before some operations. I dont want that. What can I do to avoid this prompt?
[16:21] <Rory> Indy_: These insturctions http://switchpacket.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/removing-painful-key-ring.html
[16:22] <Guest52740> hello , i forgot how to register a user on irc :)
[16:22] <Indy_> thanks Rory
[16:22] <Guest52740>  /msg op register ? or ?
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> !register | Guest52740
[16:23] <Guest52740> ty
[16:23] <Guest52740> :Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable
[16:24] <param_> Sound not coming in ubuntu 12.04 speakers, how to fix ?
[16:24] <eviljames> ActionParsnip: A bug, indeed.  Just seemed like a pretty horrible thing to do - especially if the user /doesn't/ do backups/vcs on configs.
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> param_  in a terminal, type     alsamixer     if you see MM, go there and press m
[16:25] <param_>  have removed MM, still not working
[16:26] <param_> Its not detecting my speakers i guess
[16:26] <tmager> param_: you have an audio card or something? it normally detects the motherboard audio outputs correctly in my experience
[16:27] <does> Hi Everyone!! I have a question.Every time go into standby,and want to resume,I have to push the power button.Is there a way i can do it by a click of a mouse,or pushing a key on a keyboard? All my usbv devices have power when my computer is in standby,I know that much.
[16:28] <param_> yes it was working fine yesterday
[16:28] <param_> today it stop working
[16:28] <param_> when i run $ pacmd >>> list-sinks
[16:29] <does> usb*
[16:30] <param_> check dis : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7367389/
[16:30] <param_> why does it show : ports: 		analog-output-speaker: Speakers (priority 10000, available: no) 			properties:
[16:31] <tmager> param_: dunno, I'm not a particular expert with pulseaudio; so the speakers stopped working immediately after you ran this?
[16:32] <param_> no no,, i dun know why speaker stopped working, it was working fine yesterday
[16:32] <tmager> oh, ok
[16:33] <tmager> you checked that pulseaudio is running I trust?
[16:33] <Indy_> Trying to install ubuntu-restricted-extras through the graphical Software Center, caused Software Center to hang (turn grey and non-interactive) in about half the progress gauge
[16:33] <Indy_> Thoughts/ideas/solutions please?
[16:33] <Indy_> and it remains like that 7 mins after
[16:33] <param_> pulseaudio ?? how to check it ?
[16:33] <f3lix> I really need a very recent mainline kernel for a 14.04 installation. The newest one is is 3.15-rc3 for 14.10, though… I'm wondering what the difference is between kernels for different Ubuntu releases. Is it just terminology? Can I "safely" use kernels for any ubuntu version, or are there "special" patches being applied for each release?
[16:33] <blek> WB, happywise
[16:34] <param_> sound is coming in earphones
[16:34] <happywise> hi :)
[16:34] <ubasrawr> i have a question, where do i find the default error message file again?
[16:34] <does> happywise: Hello!!
[16:34] <tmager> param_: check there's an entry in system monitor, or just run "pulseaudio" in terminal -- if it gives some error about it being already running, that's fine.
[16:34] <f3lix> tmager: http://danielsmedegaardbuus.dk/2011-06-21/get-back-varlogmessages-in-kubuntu-11-04/
[16:34] <happywise> hi :)
[16:34] <blek> happywise: so, how is it, first time using IRC? :P
[16:34] <f3lix> oups, that was ubasrawr: http://danielsmedegaardbuus.dk/2011-06-21/get-back-varlogmessages-in-kubuntu-11-04/
[16:34] <Indy_> At least tell me what do I do? I try to close/kill the window, or that will break my package tree? What alternatives do I have?
[16:35] <param_> E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[16:35] <param_> i ran , it gave : E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[16:35] <happywise> feels somewhat level up >.<
[16:35] <f3lix> ubasrawr: until then, you can do dmesg, and get pretty much the same
[16:35] <blek> Hahahaha
[16:35] <tmager> param_: good, that's normal if it's running
[16:36] <does> Indy_: I am not sure on that one.....
[16:36] <tmager> param_: unless the audio is turned down in some non-obvious place, I don't really know -- keep asking around, but I'm not all that familiar with audio stuff, the defaults normally work fine
[16:37] <Indy_> Installing nvidia proprietary driver messed up the nice booting logo/screen... any chance i can get it back?
[16:37] <f3lix> Indy_: not in my experience, but I gave up after about a day
[16:37] <ubasrawr> f3lix- thank you
[16:37] <f3lix> ubasrawr: NP :)
[16:39] <Indy_> f3lix: :S
[16:39] <does> Indy_: I know this might not help,but in my experience,I have been able to close UBC in the middle of installing,and It still installs in the background.So I am not sure. :-(
[16:39] <f3lix> I know :) I even lost the regular TTYs completely the last time.
[16:40] <does> Indy_: That is only my experience. ;)
[16:40] <Indy_> does: I think it kinda did that in my case too
[16:41] <Indy_> I am just worried Ubuntu is still many issues away from working "out of the box", for an end user, after installing
[16:42] <cfhowlett> Indy_ for end users, use the OEM installation method.  get all the packages and updates and pre-stage for the new user.
[16:42] <does> Every time go into standby,and want to resume,I have to push the power button.Is there a way i can do it by a click of a mouse,or pushing a key on a keyboard? All my usb devices have power when my computer is in standby. Does anyone know how to enable it?
[16:42] <ubasrawr> can anyone help me with the declaration of my subnet for my isc-dhcp server?
[16:43] <DannyBrown> Hey guys. How do I change the write permissions on a flash drive so that they cannot be removed/copied
[16:43] <f3lix> ubasrawr: What are you trying to do?
[16:44] <f3lix> DannyBrown: What's the filesystem?
[16:44] <DannyBrown> f3lix: Ubuntu?
[16:44] <f3lix> If it's FAT, exFAT or NTFS, you can't
[16:44] <ubasrawr> f3lix- i am trying to setup my isc-dhcp server; i got the eth0 and eth1 declared, but i don't think my subnet is being properly declared
[16:44] <f3lix> 1 sec
[16:44] <qnlinux> hi
[16:44] <DannyBrown> By the way guys. There is a guy named Waskum pm'ing me trying to get me to click a sketchy link
[16:45] <DannyBrown> f3lix: Ok can you tell me what filesystem to use then? Then what I need to do
[16:45] <cfhowlett> DannyBrown do not click that link!
[16:45] <DannyBrown> cfhowlett: I know lol
[16:45] <DannyBrown> Just thought you guys might want to report him to the sys admin or something
[16:45] <DannyBrown> f3lix: thanks
[16:46] <Aaruni> whenever someone messages me links, it is so tempting to click on them, even when you know not to click them...
[16:46] <Aaruni> DannyBrown, I think you can do it with !admin waskum
[16:46] <DannyBrown> !admin waskum
[16:46] <Aaruni> hmm
[16:46] <Aaruni> I was mistaked
[16:46] <Aaruni> *mistaken
[16:46] <cfhowlett> !ops waskum
[16:46] <f3lix> DannyBrown: Anything native to linux will do. EXT4 is probably your best bet. And to make sure noone can read your files but you, you could get away with "chmod 700" on the folders in the root of the drive.
[16:47] <IdleOne> cfhowlett: ?
[16:47] <f3lix> But this doesn't protect your files if you lose your drive, if that's what you're looking for
[16:47] <cfhowlett> IdleOne per DannyBrown waksum is pm'ing sketchy links
[16:47] <ubasrawr> f3lix - this is my pastebin for dhcpd.conf and for interfaces: http://pastebin.com/eS68WSnJ
[16:47] <DannyBrown> f3lix: I am doing something for someone on a virtual machine. They are using windows and I wand to ensure that no one can copy or delete the vm from the flash drive
[16:47] <f3lix> ubasrawr: Will have a look :)
[16:48] <DannyBrown> f3lix: so do you think I could still use chmod 700 even though a windows user will be using the flashdrive?
[16:48] <tsimpson> DannyBrown: there's nothing we can do as they aren't in here and are doing it in private, you could report it to freenode staff in #freenode instead
[16:49] <DannyBrown> tsimpson: thanks
[16:49] <f3lix> DannyBrown: You can't really do that. Especially since as you put it you need it to prevent windows users. Files are only protected by the OS that mounted the filesystem. You cannot protect files from deletion save for putting them on a read-only device (like a CD or DVD), sorry :/
[16:50] <DannyBrown> f3lix: think there is a solution from the windows os?
[16:50] <f3lix> Yes, within the OS you can protect the files with the ACL permissions in NTFS (FAT doesn't support this). It is your best bet.
[16:51] <DannyBrown> f3lix: thanks
[16:51] <f3lix> But still anyone with access to the drive can delete anything he or she wants if she has admin rights to the computer reading it
[16:51] <f3lix> NP
[16:51] <f3lix> ubasrawr: Looking now :)
[16:52] <gamboo> Wow... I think I'm done with firefox. Is seamonkey actively maintained? And does it still look like it did 10 years ago?
[16:52] <Speiros> HI everyone.  I just tried to run a sudo apt-get upgrade, and after getting most of the way through it, it says it is unable to lock the admin directory (var/lib/dpkg/), and asks if some other process is using it.  What could be causing this?
[16:52] <DannyBrown> f3lix: yeah i figured as much.
[16:53] <gamboo> Speiros, do you have synaptic open? :)
[16:53] <cfhowlett> Speiros you've probably got automatic updates in the background
[16:53] <Speiros> Ah, okay gamboo and cfhowlett.  Thanks.  I'll check.
[16:54] <stemid> I know about import but are there any screenshot programs for ubuntu that allow the user to select an area of the screen with their mouse? or perhaps a window?
[16:54] <Speiros> gamboo and cfhowlett Yes, that was the problem.  Thank you.
[16:54] <cfhowlett> stemid of course.
[16:55] <gamboo> happens to me all the time :)
[16:55] <cfhowlett> stemid look in software center - my app is just named "screenshot"
[16:55] <Speiros> lol, Well, thanks heaps.  Now to try to get this thing uploaded.
[16:55] <Speiros> Chat soon.
[16:57] <stemid> cfhowlett: thanks that search lead me to find that I already had gnome-screenshot installed. just what I wanted
[16:57] <f3lix> ubasrawr: Sorry, I'm just getting out of the door, so I can't stay with you, but I have some notes I made for myself when setting up isc-dhcp if you want them?
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> stemid: try shutter
[16:57] <testnobody> What about showdown results?
[16:59] <ubasrawr> f3lix -  yes please
[17:00] <f3lix> ubasrawr: http://pastebin.com/QU33zW6h — this are my notes… One sec, and I'll add the ones I'm using on my server right now, which also does IPX, so it might be confusing...
[17:02] <hansford> anyone here having problems with Fire Fox after the upgrade?  having problems with the address line..showing a color bar over the text and unable to see the text
[17:02] <luist> any command line stuff to convert doc to pdf?
[17:02] <f3lix> ubasrawr: Current config http://pastebin.com/zi0jpPUK — but AFAIR, I'm not using DHCP with this…
[17:03] <ubasrawr> f3lix -  i'll ask in the ubuntu-server if someone can help me with it xD
[17:03] <Tiensbakung> luist: antiword
[17:05] <qnlinux> luist: You could use oowriter -pt pdf file.doc  if you have libre/openoffice installed
[17:05] <luist> ok… thanks guys
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> f3lix: no gateway defined?
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> f3lix: on eth0
[17:08] <Indy_> Hi, how do I monitor the startup applications?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: monitor in what way?
[17:09] <jiffe98> anyone seen an issue with 14.04 where you lose routing?  Default gateway is still there, can ping locally including the gateway but nothing outside, reboot fixes it, has happened twice now
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> jiffe98: sure its not DNS?
[17:09] <Indy_> ActionParsnip: see what starts on boot, remove/add
[17:09] <jiffe98> ActionParsnip: I can resolve fine
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> jiffe98: when you get the issue can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[17:09] <Mantissa> The boot time on 14.04 is somewhat slow. My bootchart graph has high amounts of I/O waiting. Is it just my disk is too slow?
[17:09] <Guest_xyz> hi
[17:09] <qnlinux> Indy_: start with "service --status-all"
[17:10] <qnlinux> Indy_: top
[17:10] <jiffe98> ActionParsnip: no response
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ShowHiddenStartupApplications
[17:10] <Guest_xyz> kindly recommend a good plagiarism checking software (for linux).
[17:11] <Indy_> qnlinux: but this way I can't add one
[17:11] <Indy_> eg skype
[17:11] <qnlinux> Indy_: What do you want to add?
[17:11] <Indy_> I remember previous versions had a nice graphical menu
[17:11] <Indy_> skype
[17:12] <qnlinux> Indy_: You could put it in /etc/rc.local
[17:12] <Indy_> qnlinux: why did they remove this GUI editor though?
[17:12] <jiffe98> service networking stop fails also so I can't restart networking
[17:12] <kostkon> Indy_, did you search for it in the dash
[17:13] <jiffe98> ifdown and ifup seems to bring it back
[17:14] <francomos1> test
[17:14] <francomos1> ciao
[17:15] <francomos1> !list
[17:15] <fission6> curious of what peoples backup strategies are for personal machines and making sure ~/ is restorable on a new machine at any moment
[17:16] <francomos1> un canale per scaricare i file?
[17:16] <kostkon> !it | francomos1
[17:16] <francomos1> ok
[17:16] <qnlinux> Very nice read: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[17:19] <fission6> what are peoples backup strategiesin this channel
[17:19] <Indy_> How can I minimize fullscreen wesnoth?
[17:19] <Indy_> In windows it works with super+D
[17:19] <k1l> !backup | fission6
[17:20] <stormageddon> Is there a way I can send a screencap? I'm having trouble with boot-repair.
[17:20] <k1l> Indy_: alt+enter
[17:20] <fission6> look for persoanl approchaes and hardware recs
[17:20] <Indy_> k1l: nope, didnt work
[17:20] <k1l> Indy_: ctrl+super+arrow-down
[17:21] <Indy_> k1l: nope :/
[17:21] <Mantissa> The avg read speed for my drive with tahr is 23mb/s. It takes around two minutes to boot. Is that accurate?
[17:21] <k1l> fission6: there is no "best". different people use different strategies. if you have a problem we can try to solve that here
[17:21] <Indy_> Should I file a bug report for this?
[17:22] <k1l> Indy_: which ubuntu, which desktop?
[17:22] <Indy_> k1l: latest, fresh install, gnome, unity
[17:22] <Mantissa> I'm looking at bootchart's chart and there's high amounts of I/O waiting
[17:23] <k1l> fission6: some use rsync, some us deja dub, etc etc. but that is all mentioned in the links given by the bot
[17:23] <Indy_> On Windows, I could minimize it, and start another instance by clicking on the launcher again, here, I only can press "super" to get sidebar (which leaves "fullscreen state" messed up until program restart) and clicking on launcher again doesnt get me a new wensoth instance
[17:24] <fission6> k1| any hardware recs
[17:24] <param_> hello folks, i broke something, sound not coming on speakers and earphones and when i run alsamixer, it dun show my speaker and headphones as well....... :(  how to fix this
[17:24] <k1l> Indy_: ctrl+super+arrow-down minimizes windows on unity. maybe the game blocks that?
[17:25] <Indy_>   k1l i dont know, but I know it shouldnt, as it reduced my usability
[17:25] <Indy_> k1l: should i report against wesnoth upstream then?
[17:26] <k1l> Indy_: did you try alt-tab? is this in wine or is this  a linux native?
[17:26] <xangua> Indy_: to get another window of the same program hold Shift key and clic the icon
[17:27] <Indy_> k1l: linux native
[17:27] <kostkon> Indy_, gnome shell or unity?
[17:27] <param_> my alsamxer only shows PCM and Master ........
[17:27] <param_> my alsamixer only shows PCM and Master ........
[17:27] <Indy_> k1l: alt-tab didnt work
[17:27] <Indy_> xangua: ok that worked
[17:27] <Indy_> kostkon: unity
[17:28] <Indy_> xangua: but that only solved half my problem
[17:28] <Indy_> i still cant "show desktop"
[17:28] <xangua> control+windows+d
[17:28] <Indy_> only get dash/sidebar? which messes up "fullscreen mode"
[17:29] <Indy_> xangua: nothing
[17:29] <kostkon> param_, what's your problem exactly.
[17:29] <xangua> Indy_: then you modified something
[17:29] <Indy_> xangua: nope, i didnt
[17:30] <param_> i was trying to fix my speaker sound problem, now my headphone and speaker both not working
[17:30] <param_> and when i run alsamixer command it shows only PCM & MASTER
[17:30] <Indy_> so, again, maybe i should report a bug against wesnoth upstream?
[17:30] <param_> earlier it was showing all headphones and speakers as well
[17:30] <niko> /10/30
[17:31] <kostkon> param_, and what have you tried so far.
[17:31] <param_> i did something in blacklist
[17:32] <param_> i dun remember what i did... now  tried with removing pulseaudio
[17:33] <robotdevil> I accidentally used the move gui command in kde, instead of copy on a external ntfs, what is best program to recover. I would just copy back but it had to skip some files so I would like to see what it missed.
[17:33] <kostkon> param_, you'll need to revert all those changes.
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> param_: try:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse/* ; rm -r ~/.pulse*; sleep 10; pulseaudio -k
[17:34] <kostkon> param_, try to find the page where you got the instructions from to modify that file and please don't remove pulse, only do what ActionParsnip posted
[17:34] <junka> !info firefox
[17:35] <Tiensbakung> param: try stay with pulseaudio or alsa. not both.
[17:35] <qnlinux> robotdevil: Which dir did you move?
[17:35] <junka> !info thunderbird
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> brb
[17:36] <param_> okay i removed pulse audio, now installing again
[17:36] <junka> !info vlc
[17:36] <robotdevil> qnlinux: folders from the root (i guess) directory
[17:36] <esde> anyone have a clue why nomachine would suddenly require user authorization to connect after a reboot, where it did not require it before. Also, the cfg file doesn't even have directives for authorization, and when I did add a directive VirtualDesktopAuthorization 0 but it had no effect after restarting nxserver.
[17:36] <esde> i would try #NX, but it's nothing but crickets there
[17:37] <ignu5> guys i have a problem with a usb stick that wont mount. although it shows up with lsusb
[17:37] <robotdevil> qnlinux: lowest level on device. Is that what youre asking?
[17:37] <luist> ubuntu 14.04 is SOOO SLOW on my vbox!!!!!!!! im getting depressed
[17:37] <qnlinux> robotdevil: Ouch, are you logged in using root?  I suspect you are
[17:37] <mr_johns1> move to lubuntu
[17:38] <robotdevil> qnlinux: no
[17:38] <param_> i did dis, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=112144   disabling
[17:38] <frank__> Hey, all! I was wondering if ubuntu 14.04 is installable on a f2fs partition. If no, what version of ubuntu is planned to be installable on f2fs?
[17:38] <param_> disabling HDMI output or changing to analog output
[17:40] <qnlinux> robotdevil: Try copy the directories and files you moved back to where they belong.   If you weren't using root I suspect you only moved some files that you have writes to
[17:40] <qnlinux> *write permission
[17:40] <kostkon> param_, revert that change and come back
[17:41] <param_> did dat
[17:41] <param_> still no otput
[17:41] <Tiensbakung> ignu5: does gparted recognize your usb correctly?
[17:42] <kostkon> param_, log out and back in and then try to setup your sound again in your sound settings
[17:43] <ignu5> Tiensbakung: didn't think of GParted! It shows dev/sdb as unallocated
[17:43] <Tiensbakung> ignu5: there you go
[17:43] <ignu5> Tiensbakung: thanx! :)
[17:44] <ignu5> Tiensbakung:  Gparted also shows a warning: /dev/sdb:unrecognized disk label
[17:46] <Tiensbakung> ignu5: try reformat it with gparted,
[17:47] <krypto> Using ubuntu 12.04.4 ,after configuring network i am not able to restart network..its neglecting /etc/init.d/networking restart or service networking restart
[17:47] <krypto> nothing happens after executing these commands
[17:47] <Capprentice> What is the defult username/password for 3proxy ?
[17:47] <Capprentice> I have tried using my root password and user as root. Did not worked ! I can not access localhost !
[17:47] <ignu5> thanx Tiensbakung  it works like a charm now
[17:48] <Tiensbakung> ignu5: no problem
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: how did you install 3proxy
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> !info 3proxy
[17:53] <krypto> any idea why its ignoring service networking restart
[17:53] <param_> when i run pulseaudio: it gives error: pulseaudio: error while loading shared libraries: libpulsecommon-2.0.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> luist: use a lighter DE, or ditch DE and just use WM on it's own
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> param_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:54] <param_> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[17:55] <kostkon> !find libpulsecommon-2.0.so
[17:55] <kostkon> !find libpulsecommon-2.0.so precise
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: if you want a proxy, why not use Squid as it is supported here and has a massive user base
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> !find libpulsecommon
[17:55] <urielvigilant> i download a open source software, after extract i have 2 folders and 3 or 4 files, one of those is .JAR   , how to install this on my lubuntu 14.04 ?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: run the jar with /usr/bin/java
[17:55] <param_> grep: libpulsecommon-2.0.so: No such file or directory grep: libpulsecommon: No such file or directory
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> param_: sudo apt-get install libpulse0 libpulse0-dbg
[17:57] <Tiensbakung> param: sudo apt-get install --reinstall, force a reinstall
[17:58] <Capprentice> ActionParsnip, Im trying to proxify ftp through 3proxy. I dont think Squid supports that. I dont want a caching proxy.
[17:59] <urielvigilant> ActionParsnip it says its not marked as executable or is unsafe source ?
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: 3proxy isnt supported here as its not an Ubuntu package
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: you can chmod +x the file
[18:00] <param_> ActionParsnip: did that.. now pulseaudio is working
[18:00] <param_> but sound not coming
[18:00] <urielvigilant> AtionParsnip iam very newby, i dont have idea how to do that
[18:00] <urielvigilant> ActionParsnip
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> param_: what is the output of:   wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[18:02] <urielvigilant> ActionParsnip i used  ..  OpenJDK Java 7 run time  , to try open it
[18:02] <param_> its uploading something
[18:02] <param_> Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8618fcb9866c0de1913e80372d53f09423976783
[18:03] <urielvigilant> ActionParsnip , i click right buton of the mouse then i choosed  OpenJDK Java 7 run time to open it . It says blocked usr/bin/java -jar
[18:05] <urielvigilant> how to execut it on terminal emulator ?
[18:05] <Dantix> hi, Iḿ running 12.04 within a Vmware VM. The issue is: doing ping to a administrative IP of my switch after a 10 replies start to lost packets and the way I´ve found to recover it is deleting the switch´s arp entry. Then start to work until passed a number of replies stops again.
[18:07] <kostkon> urielvigilant, you need to make it executable first. right click, properties, permissions, then enable allow to executing file as program
[18:08] <param_> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8618fcb9866c0de1913e80372d53f09423976783
[18:09] <ktk1> Anyone care to help me with display issues?
[18:10] <Tiensbakung> param_: your sound card is correctly recognized, make sure it's not muted in sound settings
[18:10] <Dantix> anyone have a clue of how to resolve my issue?
[18:11] <Ca11um> How can I give a specific user access to /etc/inspircd ?
[18:13] <param_> no its not muted
[18:13] <param_> i checked it
[18:16] <Tasab> how i can know my internet connection working properly thro' the terminal , tks
[18:16] <Capprentice> Tasab, ping 8.8.8.8
[18:17] <Capprentice> if you get replies then working okay !
[18:17] <ktk1> I'll just put it out there.  Radeon Xpress 200...using open source radeon driver gets a signal frequency out of range.  Using fglrx driver frequency is ok.
[18:19] <biaxs> http://xdcc_5
[18:20] <tom__> i m new to this
[18:21] <tom__> is there anyone who can tell me about this
[18:21] <OerHeks> tom__, read the topic please
[18:23] <justpie_work> Hey all, Is there anyway to force garbage collection in JS?
[18:24] <param_> My system settings is opening again and again when i click on sound settings
[18:24] <param_> ubuntu 12.04
[18:24] <justpie_work> woops wrong chann!
[18:24] <doomlord__> http://thetechjournal.com/tech-news/airplay-video-arrives-on-linux.xhtml  <<< can anyone confirm if that works, i've been unable to get totem to recognize anything
[18:26] <mathias__> a
[18:26] <ktk1> So, I guess my question, "How do I set monitor frequencies?"
[18:26] <tom__> my system dock don't work
[18:27] <Capprentice> tom__, Dock ? Cairo Dock ?
[18:27] <kostkon> !details | tom__
[18:27] <bluezusb> Hi, USB Bluetooth dongles. Can give me link to one on Amazon eBay uk which just works with latest Ubuntu. I have wasted to much time with Cambridge Silicon Clones, and am not wasting anymore time trying to patch recompile kernels for buggy driver.
[18:27] <tom__> yes cairo dock.
[18:28] <param_> speaker not working on ubuntu 12.04, sound coming on earphones
[18:28] <bluezusb> USB Bluetooth dongle Amazon or eBay  which just works with newest Ubuntu link pls?
[18:28] <Capprentice> tom__, try running from terminal to see whats wrong: Terminal -> cairo-dock
[18:29] <urielvigilant> kostkon i did what you said, and it didnt work, nothing happens when click right buton of the mouse then i choosed OpenJDK Java 7 run time to open it, after do what you said
[18:30] <Capprentice> param_,open "gstreamer-properties" , in audio setup - choose "pulse audio or alsa for both input and output" !
[18:30] <kostkon> urielvigilant, try from terminal with  java -jar filename
[18:31] <urielvigilant> kostkon i must go to the directory where is the folder doesn it , and once there, what i should type ?
[18:31] <urielvigilant> sudo java -jar filename ?
[18:32] <kostkon> urielvigilant, or just type the full path,  e.g.  java -jar ~/Desktop/myfile.jar
[18:32] <Capprentice> urielvigilant, java -jar /home/xxx/xxx/xxx.jar
[18:32] <kostkon> urielvigilant, sudo is not needed
[18:32] <urielvigilant> thank you
[18:34] <urielvigilant> kostkon it says: no main manifest attribute, in startup.jar
[18:35] <kostkon> urielvigilant, are you sure you are running the right .jar file
[18:36] <kostkon> urielvigilant, how many jar file are there
[18:36] <param_> my system setting opening again and again,,,  ubuntu 12.04
[18:36] <tutak>  /join ubuntu-beginners-dev
[18:36] <urielvigilant> kostkon i downloaded from here http://binhgiang.sourceforge.net/webextractor/download.htm
[18:36] <tutak> Hello, why can't i join  "ubuntu-beginners-dev"?
[18:37] <breaker313> Hi there. I installed Ubuntu 14.04 a few days ago with Unity, additionally with lubuntu and kde, and now I'm confronted with an error message: Desktopmanagement isn' active. (Desktoppverwaltung ist nicht aktiv)
[18:37] <tutak> It says "Channel invite only"
[18:37] <urielvigilant> kostkon can you try there for me please ?
[18:37] <kostkon> urielvigilant, i'd rather not i'm afraid :(
[18:38] <darkangel_> Hey i was just curious if one made a web site for an extra feature for Ubuntu would Ubuntu peep's Host it?
[18:39] <urielvigilant> kostkon when i click on it JAr, it open another windoes asking for extract, i should do that ?
[18:39] <kostkon> urielvigilant, no
[18:39] <urielvigilant> humm
[18:39] <miqui> question, if i have a 1gig physical max on an ubuntu VM, is it possible to create a swap file greater than 1gig ?
[18:39] <kostkon> urielvigilant, if there are more than one jar files, try running each one of them
[18:40] <urielvigilant> no , there is one only
[18:41] <Munster> o/
[18:42] <jhutchins> urielvigilant: There is a lot of bad java around the net.
[18:42] <miqui> anybody?
[18:42] <jhutchins> urielvigilant: THere should be documentation on teh sourceforge page for that project that explains how to use it.
[18:43] <jhutchins> miqui: 1G physical max what?
[18:44] <urielvigilant> i will try, maybe i will try the windows version and try to install it with playonlinux
[18:44] <miqui> jhutchins:  1G physical RAM
[18:45] <Tiensbakung> miqui: swap files are hard disks, not ram
[18:45] <miqui> Tiensbakung:  i know.. that..
[18:46] <miqui> Tiensbakung: if i have 1 gig of ram, i want to be able to use the dd command to create a 4 gig swap file
[18:47] <miqui> tried that, and it seems it is not possible.
[18:47] <bluezusb> USB Bluetooth Dongles help
[18:47] <Tiensbakung> miqui: a dd command for creating swap file? what you exactly wanna do?
[18:48] <miqui> Tiensbakung:  i want to create a huge swapfile in a VM with only 1gig ram...
[18:48] <miqui> i need to know if it is  a problem with dd command or simply correct behavior...
[18:48] <daftykins> miqui: of course you can set it larger... you'd ideally do that in the partition + install stage though, as swap would be a partition not a file
[18:48] <OerHeks> miqui, you do that during install, or see this wiki > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[18:49] <jhutchins> miqui: Your swap file or partition can be as big as whatever physical (disk) storage you have.  You can even have multiple swap devices to use more than one disk.
[18:49] <Tiensbakung> miqui: it has nothing to do with your ram size, dd if=/dev/zero to create a swap file in a file system, fdisk for creating a swap file as a partition
[18:49] <jhutchins> miqui: The old recommendation was 2X your RAM, now ammended to not exceed about 4G swap unless you need suspend-to-ram, in which case at least 1X RAM.
[18:50] <ktk1> At boot I get a signal frequency out of range message using open source drivers. The fglxr driver fixes it.  How can I specify the monitor freaks so I can use the open source driver?
[18:50] <Tiensbakung> miqui: make sure you use a limit when using dd
[18:50] <miqui> this command fails: dd if=/dev/zero of=/sawpfile  bs=4000MB count=1
[18:50] <miqui> it fails on a VM with max 1gig ram
[18:50] <jhutchins> miqui: Generally, you do not want to use swawp, especially on a server.  It's ok to have it as a buffer for emergencies, but if you use it much at all it will bog down the system horribly.
[18:51] <jhutchins> miqui: That's why more than 4G is not recommended; managing more than that is impractical.
[18:51] <miqui> jhutchins:  sure, i am aware of this best practice....
[18:51] <Tiensbakung> miqui: not bs=4000MB, bs means how many bytes at a time, use small bs, (I normally use 4M), set the count right
[18:52] <daftykins> miqui: but doing a file on the file system is still not right
[18:52] <miqui> Tiensbakung: ok, can you give me a sample command to create a swap file of any size then?
[18:52] <miqui> daftykins: sure i agree...but i might not have a choice...
[18:53] <daftykins> miqui: what exactly is the scenario that you're limited with options?
[18:53] <Tiensbakung> miqui: dd if=/dev/zero bs=4M count=?
[18:53] <miqui> daftykins: scenario is that i need to pack many tools onto a tiny VM (1 gig RAM max) so a quick way might be to add large swap
[18:54] <miqui> "just as a temp workaround"
[18:54] <[gabriel]> ok guys I installed xfce and it changed my splash screen... how do I get it back?
[18:54] <miqui> if i do not add swap i oom frequently..
[18:54] <daftykins> miqui: persistent liveUSB isn't a viable alternative?
[18:55] <miqui> daftykins: nope
[18:55] <miqui> dealing with a tiny server on a company's public cloud
[18:55] <daftykins> ah
[18:55] <itsfortybelow> ubuntu doesn't seem to like it when i ping a host that doesn't have a reverse record
[18:55] <daftykins> ok well, gl
[18:55] <nighty-_> Hi
[18:56] <jhutchins> miqui: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/ http://www.rackspace.com/knowledge_center/article/create-a-linux-swap-file
[18:56] <nighty-_> I upgraded 2 machines to 14.04 LTS (64bits) on with Intel GFX another one with GT620 NVIDIA
[18:56] <nighty-_> the intel one is fine
[18:56] <miqui> Tiensbakung: dd if=/dev/zero bs=4M count=?    count =1000 ?
[18:56] <nighty-_> the nvidia one does not show the top and bottom gnome-panels ( using gnome-flashback )
[18:56] <nighty-_> any idea how to fix this ?
[18:57] <miqui> jhutchins: thanks...been there...
[18:57] <nighty-_> I am using nvidia tested drivers
[18:57] <daftykins> nighty-_: try a new user / guest session first to rule out a funky /home configuration
[18:58] <Tiensbakung> miqui: it's binary, 1G = 1024 * 1M, but it isn't much difference, I normally also go with 1000, because the math is quicker;-)
[18:58] <jhutchins> miqui: Both of those pages tell you how to determine the block count, so I really doubt you've "been there".
[18:58] <nighty-_> trying now daftykins
[18:58] <Tiensbakung> miqui: in your case, it's about count=250, because you use 4M at a time
[18:58] <bigred15> How do I turn off the pop up off update manager?
[18:59] <miqui> Tiensbakung: k, will give it a try... thanks.
[18:59] <spede> cock
[19:00] <nighty-_> daftykins, it seems to work albeit with funky fonts and settings for gnome
[19:00] <Tiensbakung> miqui: try with small ones first to ensure everything's going right
[19:00] <nighty-_> daftykins, so what gives then ?
[19:00] <daftykins> nighty-_: so a guest got the panels up fine?
[19:00] <nighty-_> daftykins, yes
[19:01] <miqui> thanks all for your replies...
[19:02] <daftykins> nighty-_: hrmm, do you have a ~/.xsession-errors file? that might not be quite the right name but try tab completion
[19:03] <nighty-_> daftykins, ok let me look
[19:04] <nighty-_> http://pastebin.com/8TFQ4buS
[19:04] <nighty-_> daftykins,
[19:05] <nighty-_> looks like bluetooth indicator is screwing up ?
[19:05] <blizzard_> am on 11.10 and have a 13.04 cd. how do i install it without botting from bios.(my boot order does not show teh device, and my cmos password is locked)
[19:05] <daftykins> nighty-_: hrmm i'm not experienced enough with desktop matters to know if any of that's too relevant.
[19:07] <DexterF> installing 14.04 gets stuck (for hours now) at "bcmwl-kernel-source is being configured" expanding details says something about an hourly cron job
[19:07] <DexterF> machine has only 700MB, should mention
[19:07] <blizzard_> quick help please :)
[19:08] <jhutchins> blizzard_: 12.04 is no longer supported.  The live CD should have an install option.
[19:08] <blizzard_> which file should i run to trigger it?
[19:08] <jhutchins> blizzard_: TYpo, 13.04 is not supported.
[19:08] <blizzard_> well, i can mvoe to 13.04 and then do n online upgrade
[19:09] <jhutchins> blizzard_: I'm not sure, it's supposed to be in the menu.
[19:09] <Tiensbakung> DexterF: 700M, should consider a light weight distro
[19:09] <blizzard_> i cant seem to find teh menu :)
[19:09] <blizzard_> not sure which script i need to run!
[19:09] <queuetip> i've got ubuntu running on a 64 bit architecture and i'm trying to run a software that says it supports 64 bit but i'm getting obvious errors of it trying to load 32 bit libraries, is there a way to download from the ubuntu repositories 32 bit versions of the same libraries?
[19:10] <DexterF> Tiensbakung: xubuntu?
[19:10] <daftykins> nighty-_: last idea, can you run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[19:10] <daftykins> queuetip: packagename:i386
[19:10] <queuetip> daftykins: awesome! thanks
[19:10] <Tiensbakung> DexterF: sure
[19:11] <daftykins> queuetip: you may want to read up a bit on multi-architecture use though so you don't get into a nasty situation :)
[19:11] <blizzard_> any hints on what which file should run to overwrite the current os?
[19:11] <DexterF> Tiensbakung: that's what's running :)
[19:11] <DexterF> I killed a stuck modprobe. installer continues. fingers crossed...
[19:11] <daftykins> blizzard_: why don't you know the password? is it not yours?
[19:11] <queuetip> daftykins: yeah i can see that already based on this message: You are about to do something potentially harmful.
[19:11] <queuetip> To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
[19:11] <jhutchins> blizzard_: It seems obvious that there should be a command, but I can't find it.  You can install it with debootstrap.
[19:11] <VlperX> hey guys, having trouble mounting my new 4TB
[19:12] <jhutchins> !debootstrap
[19:12] <VlperX> I've formated a single primary ex4 partition
[19:12] <daftykins> queuetip: haha, you may want to hold off and read up then :)
[19:12] <VlperX> the drive is sdd, sdd1 will not mount
[19:12] <VlperX> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdd
[19:12] <blizzard_> jhutchins: wierd. google doesnt help me with the cmd either!
[19:13] <queuetip> daftykins: i'm doing that now :) thanks
[19:14] <blizzard_> jhutchins: wubi?
[19:14] <jhutchins> blizzard_: Yeah, I find the exact question, but the answers are all to a different question.
[19:14] <vladhaund> just upgraded to 14.04 trusty and my iBus seems to be upgraded too. I have a small menu bar that keeps on popping whenever I try to type in a text. I need to get rid of this, anyone can tell me how?
[19:14] <jhutchins> blizzard_: Not supported and never very good, meant to install under windows on ntfs.
[19:15] <blizzard_> sigh! i have the distro and cant install :(
[19:15] <jhutchins> blizzard_: debootstrap.
[19:16] <jhutchins> blizzard_: Is there no install option in the menu?
[19:16] <blizzard_> jhutchins: which menu are you ref to?
[19:16] <jhutchins> blizzard_: Oh, you're not actually running the live CD.
[19:16] <blizzard_> i already am no 11.10
[19:16] <vladhaund> blizzard_, are you trying to install an ubuntu distro for the first time?
[19:17] <Bucky21659> Hi, I had a login sound set up to play, but ever since I upgraded from Trusty development to Trusty release canberra-gtk-play isn't working now, can anyone help me?
[19:17] <blizzard_> vladhaund: am on 11.10. have a cd which has 13.04. i want to move to this and then onto 14.04.
[19:17] <SCHAAP137> rofl
[19:17] <jhutchins> vladhaund: He's trying to install it over an older version on a system that will only boot to the HD/existing install.
[19:17] <Tiensbakung> vladhaund: there is an option to always hide the menu bar
[19:17] <blizzard_> am nto sure which file to run in the cd to upgrade.
[19:17] <jhutchins> vladhaund: He would like to run the installer from the live CD, but we don't know what the command is.
[19:17] <blizzard_> boot order is not an option
[19:17] <SCHAAP137> suddenly i was unable to login to my server, bad password, then i changed the pass through root @ webconsole, and it wined about my ecryptFS
[19:18] <SCHAAP137> in the end, turned out my Windows keyboard was switched to UK
[19:18] <SCHAAP137> :\
[19:18] <VlperX> ok I think the issue is I used MBR to part it, I needed to use gdisk
[19:18] <blizzard_> vladhaund: jhutchins is right. any hints?
[19:18] <vladhaund> blizzard_, isn't there any option to upgrade your os from the 11.10 itself?
[19:18] <blizzard_> i dont want to download a big pkg from the net for now. prefer quick upgrade or reinstall via cd and then doing an upgrade for 14.04.
[19:19] <blizzard_> vladhaund: i dont mind a reinstall. data has been backedup.
[19:19] <vladhaund> Tiensbakung, I did try to find the settings for it but no luck so far. so I was hoping someone could point me out
[19:19] <jhutchins> vladhaund: chroot to the CD, starx, look at the menu.  You'll probably need to bind-mount /dev and /sys.
[19:19] <vladhaund> blizzard_, then try having a gparted
[19:20] <Tiensbakung> vladhaund: is python-ibus installed, it's not a hard dependency for newer ibus
[19:20] <rvdv> blizzard_: your upgrade option will take several hours ... better download an ISO and make a 14.04 DVDD oor USB stick
[19:20] <jhutchins> blizzard_: Actually, you probably need /proc as well.
[19:21] <vladhaund> my iBus is working fine. I just need to toggle of the annoying popup menu
[19:21] <blizzard_> i think i better download 14.04 and then hope it allworks!
[19:21] <Tiensbakung> vladhaund: yes, python-ibus is for the configuring window, not ibus
[19:21] <jhutchins> rvdv: He can't boot from anything except the HD.
[19:21] <julio> hi
[19:21] <blizzard_> rvdv: aye 66
[19:22] <rvdv> jhutchins: that sux
[19:22] <vladhaund> it is installed Tiensbakung
[19:24] <Tiensbakung> vladhaund: don't remember the exact command, try with tab-completion, ibus-? to find the right command for firing up the configure window
[19:25] <vladhaund> Tiensbakung, ok, I'll do that, thanks
[19:25] <blizzard_> jhutchins: vladhaund  will gparted help in removing existing partitions and then loading froma  cd?
[19:26] <vladhaund> you need to either make a usb boot of it or burn a cd boot and it will remove your partition. or you can manipulate your partition
[19:27] <Castaneda> Greetings
[19:28] <vladhaund> brb reboot
[19:28] <aarobc> lol, now that I have steam working so well in ubuntu 14.04 I forget what OS I'm booted into
[19:28] <Castaneda> I got a question... What is the first thing that encounters an incoming packet? the tcp wrappers or the firewall?
[19:29] <Pici> Castaneda: thats probably a better question for ##networking than for #ubuntu
[19:29] <Castaneda> ohh thanks and sorry
[19:29] <jhutchins> blizzard_: You can run gparted from within your existing system, and you can run it from the chroot (it's on the live CD).  It's just a graphical partitioning utility.  You can use fdisk for that too.
[19:30] <nighty-_> daftykins, ok got it
[19:30] <jhutchins> blizzard_: There is a problem in that if anything goes wrong with the upgrade, you've effectively bricked your system.
[19:30] <nighty-_> daftykins, it was somehow my .local that was screwed up
[19:30] <nighty-_> works now
[19:30] <jhutchins> blizzard_: Recovering/resetting/removing the BIOS password is probably worth some time & research.
[19:30] <blizzard_> thanks jhutchins. downloading the 14.04 iso and hope it runs from a liveusb :)
[19:31] <nighty-_> daftykins, thanks for the hint and directions , that helped :)
[19:31] <blizzard_> jhutchins: assuming i have the iso downloaded can i run it directly from the current ubnutu rather than making a live cd/usb?
[19:32] <VlperX> how do I change the sector size when creating a partition with gdisk?
[19:32] <rodsmith> VlperX: You don't.
[19:32] <jhutchins> blizzard_: You can mount an iso via loopback.
[19:32] <Jordan_U> blizzard_: You can configure grub to loop boot the iso from your internal hard drive and load it into RAM at boot (so that the internal drive can then be unmounted).
[19:32] <VlperX> rodsmith, well I need to. So what should I sue tod o it?
[19:32] <jhutchins> blizzard_: Think about this though, you're going to delete the partition that the iso is on.  Recipie for disaster.
[19:33] <VlperX> my drive must be 4096, but gdisk sets it to 512
[19:33] <rodsmith> VIperX: You can't. It's set in firmware.
[19:33] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:33] <VlperX> well it won't let me mount it..
[19:33] <Jordan_U> VlperX: How did you create the filesystem on sdd1?
[19:33] <ac_slater> hey guys I just installed 1204 (I know, I should have gone with 1404, but this is a temp install) and my key layout is odd. I selected english, etc but '-' also presses ' , and '[' presses F6... sigh. Any clue?
[19:34] <VlperX> Jordan_U, sudo mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sdd1
[19:34] <sebsebseb> ac_slater: I guess keyboard layout settings, what kind of keyboard you got?
[19:35] <ac_slater> sebsebseb: regular ol' english keyboard on my dell laptop
[19:35] <Jordan_U> VlperX: Please pastebin the complete output of "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdd1 && sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt/".
[19:35] <aarobc> Anyone else game on linux? I thought sanctum2 supported linux but it's not launching from steam
[19:35] <sebsebseb> ac_slater: so pressing some keys does the wrong keys instead?
[19:35] <ac_slater> I have the same laptop next to it with ubuntu and I've duplicated the keyboard settings and it's still odd
[19:35] <ac_slater> sebsebseb: pressing some keys enters multiple keys
[19:35] <ac_slater> sebsebseb: I never thought of it not being a software issues ...
[19:35] <ac_slater> issue *
[19:36] <sebsebseb> aarobc: sure loads of people game with Linux, well Humble Bundle ones etc :).   if you got Steam issues though, we probably can't help much here
[19:36] <Jordan_U> aarobc: Try #ubuntu-steam .
[19:36] <ac_slater> sebsebseb: but both quote and minus press quote AND minue
[19:36] <ac_slater> minus *
[19:36] <aarobc> Jordan_U: will try there thanks
[19:36] <VlperX> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7368471/
[19:36] <sebsebseb> ac_slater: maybe you can change the keyboard layout a bit in the settings or something?  you said tempory install, but why not 14.04 curious
[19:37] <majod> hi. my motherboard sound has this feature that when i plugin headphones to front panel, speakers automatically mute...but since i downgraded my VIDEO driver, now when i plugin the headphones, speakers keep playing...i mean...how does this even relate... ?
[19:37] <Jordan_U> aarobc: You're welcome.
[19:37] <ac_slater> sebsebseb: cause I couldnt get the ISO to boot via grub4dos ;)
[19:37] <VlperX> Jordan_U, and /dev/sdd1       2.0T  199M  1.9T   1% /mnt
[19:37] <VlperX> why only 2T?
[19:37] <sebsebseb> ac_slater: what's grub4dos ?
[19:38] <sebsebseb> oh just over 1800 in here, more than usaul
[19:38] <Jordan_U> VlperX: Probably because sdd1 is only 2 TiB. Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l". Clearly though, you're not having any trouble mounting it.
[19:39] <VlperX> nope it's not 2TB
[19:39] <Jordan_U> VlperX: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[19:39] <VlperX>  parted -l
[19:39] <VlperX> oops
[19:39] <VlperX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7368489/
[19:39] <Bluewolf> Anyone around here familiar with themes, Ubuntu 14.04. I downloaded a them but I want to change the colour of the top toolbar as is too dark against the dash?
[19:40] <Tiensbakung> ac_slater: do you have a usb stick? then no need to fiddle with grub4dos
[19:41] <VlperX> actually the mounting was another issue.. now why is this only showing as 2tb?
[19:41] <Jordan_U> ac_slater: Booting any version of Ubuntu via grub2 is easy and reliable: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F
[19:43] <ac_slater> Tiensbakung: I like booting ISOs via old ass grub... it's fun. But yea updating to grub2 might be better
[19:43] <ac_slater> also my keyboard problem is hardware, not the layout... thanks all
[19:49] <ac_slater>  /close
[19:50] <ac_slater> oops ;)
[19:53] <Rubas> Hi all
[19:55] <deadly_> hi
[19:58] <vertago1> Anyone know why cgroup-bin all the sudden depends on cgroup-lite in 14.04lts?
[19:59] <androok> dpkg question - anyone know why when installing a package via `sudo dpkg -i myPackage.deb` it would create directories with a user account instead of root?
[20:01] <CarlFK> androok: postgresql will create a postgres user, and then make that user own some stuff.  is that what you mean?
[20:01] <TacoTacos> Hello, I just installed Chrbutu on my acer c710 chromebook. Everything is installed but I can't seem to get it to boot into linux.
[20:01] <vertago1> androok I think a deb file is really just a tar so if the permissions arn't root when they are tarred intially then they won't be after extracting
[20:01] <VlperX> can I have mv show the transfer speed?
[20:01] <androok> CarlFK: no, unfortunately.
[20:01] <majod> can someone help me debug why suddenly ubuntu decides that it will keep playing sound from my speakers even when headphones are plugged in?
[20:01] <jhutchins> VlperX: rsync can.
[20:02] <androok> vertago1: that's pretty much what I thought - the user in the deb isn't present on the system, so is it just randomly choosing a user?
[20:02] <vertago1> androok it usually goes by uid
[20:02] <VlperX> I see
[20:02] <vertago1> so if they user doesn't exist it would just list a number for the uid
[20:02] <Jordan_U> androok: a .deb package contains scripts which can do whatever they want, it's very bad form for them to modify "user accounts" (as opposed to the accounts of system users), but there is nothing stopping them (unless they're part of the official repositories, in which case such a package would never be allowed to be uploaded in the first place).
[20:03] <jhutchins> androok: It uses the numerical ID, which may or may not match someone on your system.
[20:03] <androok> vertago1: ah ok. so there's a chance that the UID they used for their user that's present is actually the same UID as the random user on my system
[20:03] <vertago1> androok: yes
[20:03] <androok> ok, awesome. that makes way more sense now.
[20:03] <PaRaD0xxR> hi, my /etc folder is empty, I'm worried something weird is going on, any ideas?
[20:03] <vertago1> 1000 is usually the start of users you create
[20:03] <vertago1> anyone know a good irc for configuring cgroups?
[20:04] <androok> kept seeing weird things happening with a specific user when I installed packages from IBM
[20:04] <androok> their "spark" user must map to the same UID as one of my users.
[20:05] <cactuswizard> weird, my Ubuntu claims that there's no newer version available although before restart it informed twice about 14.04
[20:05] <jhutchins> androok: Yeah, some systems start user accounts at 500, some 1000.  Service accounts are supposed to be below that.
[20:05] <vertago1> androok: if you did useradd -u 1050 spark it would make a user with the uid 1050
[20:05] <cer> hi everybody!
[20:05] <cer> I have a WD MyBook 3TB external disk. Gparted sees it appropriately as NTFS. I cannot mount it though!
[20:05] <cer> Why?
[20:06] <Jordan_U> androok: You'll have to ask the creator of the package (or read its postinst script). Again, they can do whatever they want, including things that would get their package removed from the archive if it were officially part of Debian/Ubuntu.
[20:06] <androok> Thanks for reminding me about the UID "non-existent user" ownership thing.
[20:06] <cer> It is a USB and I am using 13.10 at 64bit
[20:06] <Jordan_U> cer: How are you trying to mount it and what happens when you do?
[20:06] <androok> Jordan_U: Yeah, the package scripts should really have some better ownership management.
[20:07] <cactuswizard> !ubottu upgrade
[20:07] <cer> Jordan_U: I just connect the USB .... nothing happens. If I connect my 1TB, it shows in the devices and I just click on it and mount it.
[20:07] <Jordan_U> cer: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "dmesg".
[20:07] <PaRaD0xxR> all started after I found gapcmon to monitor my apc ups, was trying to configure that and then I can't even get apcstatus to return anything
[20:08] <vertago1_> sorry my client is acting up
[20:08] <cactuswizard> !ubottu
[20:08] <ktk1> <- Looking for display driver help and hoping someone's got the magic
[20:09] <cer> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7368649/
[20:10] <cactuswizard> is there any way to upgrade Ubuntu without waiting if you have earlier pressed "remind me later" when notified?
[20:10] <Jordan_U> cactuswizard: Yes.
[20:10] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | cactuswizard
[20:10] <cer> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7368657/
[20:10] <cactuswizard> Jordan_U: thanks
[20:10] <cer> The first one s the output of dmesg, the second one is the output of partd -l
[20:10] <cer> Jordan_U: everything seems to be in order
[20:11] <Jordan_U> cer: Except that parted doesn't see any filesystem there.
[20:11] <cer> Jordan_U: oh flick ....
[20:11] <Jordan_U> cer: Please pastebint the output of "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/".
[20:12] <cer> Jordan_U: it is strange though .... W7 sees filesystem and files
[20:12] <cer> Jordan_U: wait, brb
[20:12] <ktk1> Running old hw. radeon xpress 200; using open source driver (radeon) I get a signal frequency out of range.  Previously switched to fglrx driver, which fixed it.  Can't seem to get the radeon driver to work and really don't know where to start.  Seen the issue all over the net, but no fixes seem to work for me.  Any help?
[20:13] <PaRaD0xxR> o wait, etc is fine, nvm
[20:13] <majod> can someone help me debug why suddenly ubuntu decides that it will keep playing sound from my speakers even when headphones are plugged in?
[20:14] <Jordan_U> PaRaD0xxR: What made you originally think it was empty?
[20:15] <PaRaD0xxR> well...I had just installed gapcmon...
[20:15] <PaRaD0xxR> and it's not loading...read some website somewhere...and I went to check apcupsd.conf...and its empty
[20:16] <PaRaD0xxR> which is supposed to be...in /etc...maybe not the right /etc tho, noob here
[20:17] <PaRaD0xxR> which, I suppose, is my real question now...sudo apcstatus returns nothing
[20:18] <PaRaD0xxR> the apc still seems to work normally, unplugged it, and everything stayed on...but I have no way to check it
[20:18] <PaRaD0xxR> not sure what is going on
[20:19] <TacoTacos> If I use a script to install 13.04 will it just overwrite 12.04?
[20:20] <reisio> TacoTacos: "a script" is pretty vague
[20:20] <reisio> "a script" can do almost anything
[20:20] <TacoTacos> curl -L -O http://goo.gl/s9ryd; sudo bash s9ryd
[20:20] <domovoi> how do i install 	libpng12.so.0 and 	libcurl.so.4  on 14.04
[20:21] <PaRaD0xxR> Jordan_U, any idea how to fix my apc config then? :)
[20:21] <kostkon> !find libpng12.so.0
[20:21] <reisio> TacoTacos: my guess is that assumes an empty disk
[20:22] <reisio> TacoTacos: you can see where it partitions and formats as if there is nothing of worth on a disk
[20:22] <jhutchins> TacoTacos: Why are you installing 13.04 anyway, I thought that was EOL.
[20:22] <kostkon> domovoi, sudo apt-get install libpng12-0 libcurl3
[20:22] <jhutchins> TacoTacos: Why not just a normal install or an upgrade?
[20:23] <domovoi> thanks
[20:23] <TacoTacos> Jhutchins because it is for a chromebook
[20:23] <JOY_> guys .... i m having a problem with my datacard ..
[20:23] <JOY_> i m using 13.04 ... n i use iball 3g stick ...
[20:24] <JOY_> while runnig  the dialup bash file it is showing such kind of error
[20:24] <JOY_> "...............................start dial up...............................
[20:24] <JOY_> /bin/ls: cannot access /dev/ttyUSB*: No such file or directory
[20:24] <JOY_> Please check the datacard is plugged in and the cdrom has been ejected!
[20:24] <jhutchins> TacoTacos: That must imply something I don't understand.
[20:24] <s2013> how do i switch from one work space to another quickly
[20:25] <reisio> s2013: historically, CTRL+ALT+left/right arrow
[20:25] <reisio> no doubt configurable still
[20:25] <s2013> k let me try
[20:25] <s2013> that works
[20:25] <s2013> that works great
[20:25] <s2013> i wonder if anything quicker
[20:25] <reisio> quicker?
[20:26] <Tiensbakung> s2013, make two aliases if you frequently switch between two workspaces
[20:26] <s2013> how would i do that Tiensbakung
[20:26] <reisio> you could try moving the mouse to the side of the screen and turning the mousewheel
[20:26] <jcvfen> http://cl.ly/image/0j2N2k0D3n2k/IMG_3170.JPG
[20:26] <s2013> quicker int he sense that i need to move my hand down instead of being on the touch typing position
[20:26] <jcvfen> http://cl.ly/image/0u0e2h1D3p1Y/IMG_3171.JPG
[20:27] <s2013> basically i dont wanna take my hands off the home positiot
[20:27] <s2013> position
[20:27] <reisio> oh, then reconfigure the shortcut
[20:27] <reisio> or use a different window manager, like wmii
[20:27] <s2013> let me check
[20:27] <s2013> how do i reconfigure shortcut
[20:28] <Tiensbakung> s2013, alias cw1="cd ~/Workspace1", likewise for workspace2, put them in .bashrc, launch a new terminal, and you are good to go
[20:28] <s2013> gotcha
[20:28] <s2013> k thanks
[20:29] <JOY_> help guys !
[20:29] <hotaronohanako> ?
[20:29] <reisio> JOY_: k
[20:30] <jhutchins> JOY_: Wha tis an iball 3g stick?
[20:31] <jhutchins> JOY_: Do you have documentation from the people who supplied to software?
[20:33] <jhutchins> JOY_: This only works if you respond.
[20:33]  * jhutchins goes for coffee.
[20:34] <cer> Jordan_U: I have gone back to W7, created a folder on the disk, and now ubuntu sees the disk
[20:35] <cer> Jordan_U: but the output of parted -l still doe snot show any filesystem
[20:36] <cer> Jordan_U: if I look at the output of the mount command I see: /dev/sdb1 on /media/cer/My Book type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[20:36] <cer> Jordan_U: what do you think?
[20:37] <Jordan_U> cer: Since you never gave the output of the mount command when it wasn't working, I can't really say what the provious state of things was. Please pastebin the current output of "sudo parted -l".
[20:38] <Jordan_U> s/provious/previous/
[20:38] <cer> Jordan_U: absolutely teh same as before.
[20:40] <Jordan_U> cer: Please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid".
[20:41] <cer> Jordan_U: nothing happening
[20:41] <cer> Jordan_U: /dev/sdb1: LABEL="My Book" UUID="54D8D96AD8D94ABE" TYPE="ntfs"
[20:41] <cer> Jordan_U: re issued the command
[20:42] <aeLiXihr> b'jour i don't seem to be able to login anymore this is my account http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=1188991 You have requested a new password for the Ubuntu One using the following email address:  xxx  This email address is however not associated with any Ubuntu One accounts.
[20:42] <aeLiXihr> any ideas?
[20:42] <aeLiXihr> thanks!
[20:43] <swordsmanz> sexual attraction to swiss cheese, perversion or legitimate orientation ... discuss
[20:43] <cer> by the way, what is the official application for synchornising two directories in ubuntu?
[20:44] <Tiensbakung> cer: rsync
[20:44] <swordsmanz> ^
[20:45] <cer> Tiensbakung: sorry, using GUI, it is for my wife
[20:45] <Jordan_U> swordsmanz: No. Please stay on topic and appropriate for this channel.
[20:45] <cer> Tiensbakung: unison does not seem to be in the offical repository
[20:46] <Tiensbakung> cer: there should be some gui wrapper for rsync
[20:47] <swordsmanz> personally I'm not a cheese lover in that way tho camembert is tasty
[20:49] <t4nk891> hi all
[20:50] <t4nk891> please, help me with this question: is there a way to boot the official LiveCD of 14.04amd64 in alternative mode?
[20:50] <ktk1> <- wondering if messeges are showing up to others
[20:51] <Michael87> so I finished reinstalling ubuntu 14.04 on an old latitude d510 and after all the updates its running perfectly considering how dated the hardware is. I checked the cpu and it seemed to take the same amount as xubuntu but I could be wrong. however I transfered some of my favorite themes from my main laptop to it and traid a custom theme. The cpu spiked from 8% to 15% or more. is a custom theme bad on the cpu 0_o. This is for a family me
[20:51] <Michael87> mber and I doubt they want to stick with orange theme the whole time they have this computer
[20:51] <cer> Tiensbakung: I thought that we had a default synchroniser
[20:51] <Jordan_U> t4nk891: There is no such thing as "aternative mode". There used to be "Aternate CDs" that used debian installer instead of a LiveCD environment, those have been discontinued. If you want to use d-i you can use the minimal install images.
[20:52] <YuLin> Hi there!
[20:52] <YuLin> Could anyone help me with IPSec and iptables?
[20:52] <sebsebseb> Michael87: is a custom theme bad
[20:52] <t4nk891> Jordan_U: ty. Any link?
[20:52] <sebsebseb> Michael87: hmm maybe a bit, what kind of theme?
[20:52] <jadz> Hey guys, bit of a weird one - Bios detects new drive (2TB) however trying to install via USB does not seem to detect this new drive. sudo fdisk -l shows only the USB drive (with fdisk doesn't support GPT errors but thats related to the USB drive image). Any ideas?
[20:53] <JOY_> which kind of documentation u r talking about >?
[20:53] <JOY_> jhutchins?
[20:53] <Jordan_U> !minimal | t4nk891
[20:53] <Michael87> sebsebseb, gtk3 themes. rainy day blues is the one I tested
[20:53] <Jordan_U> t4nk891: Why do you want to use debian-installer?
[20:53] <sebsebseb> Michael87: is this for Unity or GTK 3 ?
[20:54] <Michael87> sebsebseb, I assumed they both use gtk3
[20:54] <t4nk891> Jordan_U: miniISO will be fine. Awesome for providing me the link! really ty! ;)
[20:54] <Tiensbakung> cer: Sorry, have no clue, I always use rsync. Maybe check out DejaDup, it's a very simple tool for backup
[20:54] <cer> Tiensbakung: found grsync
[20:54] <cer> Tiensbakung: grsync seems to have it all, I normally use in from command line, but my wife is not yet there!
[20:55] <t4nk891> Jordan_U: I'll use it fro installing a minimal ubuntu desktop version
[20:55] <t4nk891> *for
[20:55] <sebsebseb> Michael87: I am considering maybe putting Ubuntu  14.04 on my Mum's old lap top,  since it being longer support fvie years,  instead of what's left of the 18  months for the one I was thinking.  If so I would just keep the theme on default,  but probably won't be much difference realy with a change of theme, when it comes to performance,  it's eye  candy
[20:55] <Meris> I want to do a clean install of 14.04 (currently on 12.04 64 Bit) . My /home drive is encrypted and I can access it on my current system. Is there a way to make a clean install and still use the same encrypted /home drive?
[20:55] <darkseid> Greetings folks..
[20:55] <Tiensbakung> cer: yeah, I undertand;-)
[20:56] <Meris> I do not have enough space on another volume to copy the encrypted data to.
[20:56] <sebsebseb> Michael87: personally I would stick with the defalt theme, of whatever  distro I put on for such a person :)
[20:56] <cer> Tiensbakung: she has started using it though, but not really for a full synchronisation of 360GB of files
[20:57] <macscam1> when downloading a file in Firefox I am being told that I need to write-enable /tmp
[20:57] <darkseid> I would like to install lightdm on kubuntu. Is it possible without install whole ubuntu-desktop?
[20:57] <Michael87> sebsebseb, I'm a sucker for eye candy. I tried to revert to xubuntu or lubuntu on this old thing. Surprisingly it didn't make a huge difference from the new lts. I love unity so this is a huge plus. she can have hotcorners and window snapping.
[20:57] <sebsebseb> darkseid: yep  sudo apt-get install lightdm or something like that
[20:59] <sebsebseb> Michael87: well Unity is thighed to Ubuntu so stuck using Ubuntu for that really.  I don't think themeing it will make much difference when it comes to performance though
[20:59] <xangua> darkseid: doesn't kununtu
[20:59] <darkseid> sebsebseb: It says that is already version. I'll run: dpkg-reconfigure kdm -- and see if is available.....
[20:59] <darkseid> I got an error also: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/yorba/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages
[20:59] <xangua> Doesn't kubuntu 14.04 already used lightdm by default? darkseid
[21:00] <OerHeks> xangua +1
[21:00] <t4nk891> Jordan_U: too bad... Mini ISO won't boot in UEFI environment and my PC doesn't provide BIOS compatible mode... Damn: I'll use the 14.04amd64 standard Desktop version
[21:00] <Michael87> sebsebseb, oddly on this old thing animations seems slightly more fluid. maybe the themes wheren't designed for 14.04 os. It doesn't effect the speed on my main laptop. mine is an inspiron e1505 dual core system
[21:00] <darkseid> xangua: For me is kdm.. Lightdm is ubuntu's, right?
[21:01] <Meris> I want to do a clean install of 14.04 (I'm currently on 12.04 64 Bit) . My /home drive is encrypted and I can access it on my current system. Is there a way to make a clean install and still use the same encrypted /home drive? I do not have enough space on another volume to copy the encrypted data to.
[21:02] <sebsebseb> Michael87: I haven't really used Unity  much to be honest for quite some time,  since other distro's and GNOME Shell,  but yeah assuming it's like GNOME Shell in that kind of way I would have thought anything animated could slow down a bit
[21:02] <xangua> What release are you using? Are you sure? And yes you can install any dm you want
[21:02] <xangua> darkseid:
[21:02] <darkseid> xangua: I'm running Kubuntu 14.04..
[21:02] <theborger> hey ? can someoen tell me how to get GDM to not startup at boot up?
[21:03] <theborger> i need to remove nvidia drivers, but i am in ESXI, cant get to Alt+f1
[21:03] <theborger> to log in
[21:03] <zzunderscore> I am trying to find a download location for an Ubuntu "Alternate CD" that has a command line only install option. The "minimal" ISO isn't an option and the regular ISOs don't appear to have a CLI-only install option..
[21:03] <zzunderscore> The documentation references these "Alternate CD"s many times, but they are very difficult to find
[21:03] <Meris> zzunderscore, try the server version
[21:04] <zzunderscore> k
[21:04] <zzunderscore> ty\
[21:04] <Meris> np^
[21:05] <reisio> theborger: chvt
[21:05] <darkseid> I would like to use the beautiful ubuntu's login screen on Kubuntu.... Thinking 'bout install ubuntu desktop, make nauseated.... Will make a mess.
[21:05] <Michael87> sebsebseb, I actually tried the new gnome shell last not before going back to unity. the gnome shell actually is promising and kinda cool. But again it didn't give me a boost in speed over unity. But looking at it I feel that it should have. Maybe the gnome desktop has a few kinks to work out I don't know. But it reminded me of the android os. If anything it made me thing that this is what they should use to port android apps over or he
[21:05] <Michael87> ll android and ubuntu need to start working together already lol
[21:05] <xangua> darkseid: what is stopping you then
[21:06] <cer> what is the best filesystem for storing 10000 of small files (4Mb to 40MB)?
[21:06] <theborger> reisio: no idea wtf that menas man
[21:06] <reisio> theborger: it's a command, run it
[21:06] <darkseid> all right...
[21:06] <sebsebseb> Michael87: well GNOME Shell is also 3.10  rather than the latest 3.12 in Ubuntu GNOME
[21:06] <darkseid> all right....
[21:06] <reisio> theborger: chvt 2
[21:06] <cer> ext4, NTFS, HFS+? best also = stable .... so btrfs probably does not apply!
[21:06] <reisio> hfs+, heh
[21:07] <Michael87> sebsebseb, I think ubuntu gnome 14.04 comes with 3.12 on its iso. But I'm just assuming
[21:07] <sebsebseb> Michael87: no no it comes with GNOME 3.10, but there's a ppa for those that really want the latest stable 3.12 vesion
[21:08] <ktk1> Is this messege visible to anyone, or is it invisible?
[21:08] <sebsebseb> ktk1: nope your invisible :d
[21:08] <Meris> Does anyone know how to revert an encrypted drive on 12.04 to a normal one without moving the data? (no space left to that)
[21:08] <sebsebseb> ktk1: yes we see yhou
[21:08] <ktk1> hehe Thanks.  That's what I was shooting for
[21:09] <Michael87> sebsebseb, ah. I see. That might explain a few things. But still  for now I think unity is the way to go. especially for non linux users. I would try zorin but they take forever after the next ubuntu is released. Zorin looks like they are still using 13.10
[21:09] <oldwzd> Meris: best way would be to get a external drive and copy all data, then start all over..
[21:09] <sebsebseb> Michael87: getting off topic a bit now, but curious to know why you think Unity is way to go etc.  pm me ),   or someone may be like that's not support anyhmore
[21:10] <Meris> oldwzd, that's why I appended the phrase: I don't have enough space on any available drive external or internal to move all the present data.
[21:10] <mustafa> GR
[21:11] <sebsebseb> Michael87: I do hoever from waht I have seen, that Unity has probably this added user friendly really for new users etc,  than GNOME Shell, by default I mean and such yeah
[21:11] <sebsebseb> think that
[21:11] <DannyBrown> How do I create swap space?
[21:11] <sebsebseb> DannyBrown: gparted I guess
[21:11] <Meris> DannyBrown, makeswp
[21:11] <sebsebseb> your already insatlled?
[21:11] <Jordan_U> Meris: There is no practical way to unencrypt and entire partition without another partition to copy the data to.
[21:12] <DannyBrown> Meris: thanks
[21:12] <ktk1> I'm trying to figure how to fix signal frequency out of range when I'm using the radeon driver. The fglrx driver doesn't give me that error messege
[21:12] <Mantissa> I'm trying to hc
[21:13] <oldwzd> Meris: as far i know, you will not be able to reverse an enryption without proper extra data space. thus you will need another drive. or depending on the nature of the data you want to save. you could use a online storage solution.
[21:13] <Mantissa> I'm trying to change the color of an inactive window bar (that has close minimise etc buttons). Where in a theme is such specified?
[21:14] <Meris> Jordan_U, oldwzd  hmm, that *is* a pity. That should probably be in the disclaimer when presenting the option to encrypt your drive ;-) Well, it seems I'm in the market for yet another external drive then..
[21:14] <Meris> Jordan_U, oldwzd , thx for the info :-)
[21:14] <jadz> Hey guys, bit of a weird one - Bios detects new drive (2TB) however trying to install via USB does not seem to detect this new drive. sudo fdisk -l shows only the USB drive (with fdisk doesn't support GPT errors but thats related to the USB drive image). Any ideas?
[21:15] <linuxuz3r> how is the new catalyst drivers? on linux
[21:15] <linuxuz3r> is it stable?
[21:16] <OerHeks> ubuntu driver tool provides only stable drivers, so yes.
[21:19] <OerHeks> !info gdisk
[21:21] <computer_> hiii
[21:22] <Guest6499> Hello
[21:22] <jiffe98> one of my 14.04 machines dropped network again
[21:22] <jiffe98> no one else has noticed this problem?
[21:22] <Guest6499> It happened to me once, right after upgrading from 13.10. Hasn't happened since then though.
[21:23] <computer_> how are u???
[21:23] <jiffe98> its happened to me 3 times in the last week
[21:23] <JOY_> just fine ... as well ... wt abt u computer ?!
[21:24] <jiffe98> twice today
[21:24] <jiffe98> ifdown and ifup brings it back
[21:24] <Guest6499> Wow... What are your machine specs?
[21:24] <jiffe98> this is a virtual machine
[21:25] <Guest6499> Oh alright then. I'm not sure I can help you, as I have no experience with virtual machines
[21:25] <computer_> i am new to this chat
[21:25] <reisio> computer_: hi :)
[21:25] <computer_> hi
[21:25] <jiffe98> we've been running this way since 2008 and 8.04 without this kind of trouble
[21:25] <JOY_> den u gona ...freaking enjoy it computer !
[21:26] <mohab> hi all
[21:26] <Meris> hi mohab, how can we help you
[21:27] <mohab> This is the first time I use chat
[21:28] <mohab> Can you explain to me about this program
[21:28] <reisio> mohab: chat program, type, speak, end
[21:28] <ktk1> So, how do I fix the signal frequency out of range thing?  Fixed it before using fglrx driver and setting resolution in grub.  Using open source radeon driver now, and I'm back to dealing with signal frequency.  With the open source driver I have to boot with a different monitor, then switch back to the monitor I use normally.
[21:30] <jiffe98> are there any resources that could be used up that might cause routing to stop working?
[21:30] <Tiensbakung> mohab: just type in your question, anyone know the answer will try to help you
[21:30] <mohab> how can i speak to many People
[21:30] <theborger> so nvidia is fixed
[21:30] <theborger> and got vmware tools install
[21:31] <mohab> ok
[21:31] <jiffe98> mohab: ad in the paper?
[21:31] <theborger> but resolution is shit. max is 1176x885
[21:31] <Tiensbakung> mohab: simple typing, everyone can see you, reference people's names will cause their attention
[21:32] <mohab> ok
[21:32] <Meris> I'm about to setup a clean install of Ubuntu 14.04 on an SSD and I want to keep the amount of writes to a minimum. swap and /var will be setup on a proper HDD because there are many writes to these partitions. Are there any other default mountpoints I want to keep off the SSD?
[21:32] <mohab> This is good I liked this program
[21:33] <reisio> Meris: realistically you will want to replace your ssd before it will die from writes
[21:33] <reisio> not worth worrying about
[21:33] <zykotick9> reisio: i strongly agree.
[21:33] <reisio> also if you can afford an ssd, you probably won't be swapping that much
[21:33] <reisio> 'cause you'll have plenty of ram
[21:33] <mohab> I Write Is Everybody sees what I write؟؟؟
[21:34] <Meris> reisio, true, I have 8GB of RAM
[21:34] <reisio> and that is said in a world where 2-4GB is _not_ "plenty", but commonplace
[21:34] <Passwd> how-do-i-install-development-tools
[21:34] <Passwd> ubuntu 12.10
[21:34] <reisio> zykotick9: you're so agreeable :)
[21:35] <mohab> I want to ask a question
[21:35] <Meris> Then ask it
[21:35] <Passwd> how-do-i-install-development-tools ?
[21:37] <clzielin> i know this sounds like dumb question, is the latest ubuntu release ( TrustyTahr )?
[21:37] <clzielin> or something else.  .. new user here
[21:37] <clzielin> trying to install ATI/AMD drivers following this link -- http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Natty_Installation_Guide
[21:38] <tpw_rules> is is possible to encrypt a pre-existing partition in place using any linux solution (truecrypt, luks, etc)?
[21:38] <mohab> I am working on Ubuntu 12.4 when I enter into c  Receive an error message              mount -t ntfs-3g -o remove_hiberfile /dev/sda1 /media/5A34C62634C6054B
[21:38] <reisio> tpw_rules: don't cross post
[21:38] <clzielin> but having issues with trying to Create .deb packages
[21:38] <Meris> clzielin, the latest Ubuntu release is called Trusty Tahr (released on the 17th of april ) , but there is another release in development.
[21:39] <ktk1> Tschüß
[21:39] <TacoTacos> Just finished install ubuntu and my trackpad went to crap
[21:39] <Tiensbakung> Meris: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives has a good article about using SSD
[21:39] <Walker_> hi all
[21:39] <jhutchins> mohab: It's important what the error message actually says.
[21:40] <Walker_> i just installed ubuntu 14.04 server and after installing, the server is stuck while booting
[21:40] <mohab> I do I solve this problem to enter termenal
[21:40] <JOY_> hi Walker !
[21:40] <JOY_> Walker_
[21:40] <Walker_> its stuck at "Adding 8107004k swap on /dev/sda3. Priority:-1 extents:1 across: 8107004k SSFS
[21:40] <jhutchins> Walker_: At what point?
[21:40] <Walker_> i have to say, this is my first EVER (!) ubuntu server install :D
[21:41] <reisio> Walker_: hit CTRL+c
[21:41] <Meris> Tiensbakung, thanks for the link!
[21:41] <JOY_> to enter bios terminal mohab: you should click ctrl + alt + f2
[21:41] <clzielin> is there an installation guide currently available for TrustyTahr like this one --  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Natty_Installation_Guide
[21:41] <Passwd> hey my sourclist failed
[21:41] <clzielin> trying to install ATI/AMD drivers
[21:42] <mohab> its says Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount.
[21:42] <mohab> Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Operation not permitted
[21:42] <mohab> The NTFS partition is hibernated. Please resume and shutdown Windows
[21:42] <mohab> properly, or mount the volume read-only with the 'ro' mount option, or
[21:42] <mohab> mount the volume read-write with the 'remove_hiberfile' mount option.
[21:42] <mohab> For example type on the command line:
[21:42] <unopaste> mohab you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:42] <Walker_> nothing happens at CTRL+C
[21:42] <reisio> Walker_: ALT+F2?
[21:42] <Passwd> help me pls http://paste.debian.net/96665/
[21:42] <Walker_> reisio: nothing happens
[21:43] <Passwd> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/eglibc/libc6-dev_2.15-0ubuntu20.1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found
[21:43] <reisio> Walker_: reboot?
[21:43] <cer> apologies but how stable is ubuntu's btrfs?
[21:43] <Walker_> reisio: then its stuck at the same positopmn
[21:43] <cer> I am running 13.10 64 bit, up to date
[21:43] <reisio> cer: about as stable as anybody's btrfs
[21:44] <tom__> synaptic storage manager header missing
[21:44] <Tiensbakung> Meris, also try iotop -oPa, to see what process is doing a lot of I/O
[21:44] <mohab> I can solve this problem and access to c
[21:44] <Walker_> other ideas?
[21:45] <mohab> But all I want a solution to this problem will not arise and radically
[21:45] <cer> reisio: well, not sure really, since btrfs-progs cannot be found ....
[21:46] <Meris> Tiensbakung, I will. Ah, so many useful articles on the ArchLinux wiki, I am tempted to try out Arch to see what that community is like...
[21:46] <Passwd> http://paste.debian.net/96665/
[21:46] <TacoTacos> arch is pretty awesome
[21:46] <TacoTacos> but they are kinda assholes sometimes
[21:47] <Walker_> i can strat in recovery mode
[21:47] <reisio> Walker_: boot your live OS and redo swap or something
[21:47] <Meris> TacoTacos, I'm running a helpdesk, so I can manage most of them ;-)
[21:47] <Tiensbakung> mohab: sounds like you have your windows OS hibernated rather than powered off, try commonly power off your windows
[21:47] <reisio> cer: if using btrfs were a good idea for you, I promise you'd be able to find it :)
[21:47] <yeats> Passwd: do 'sudo apt-get update' and try again
[21:47] <JOY_> these media codecs installation is making me frustating !!!
[21:48] <cer> reisio: fair enough, that is a good indication I guess
[21:48] <mohab> yap
[21:48] <TacoTacos> Meris one time I asked and question and I was running ArchBang but not Archlinux. They told me to leave
[21:48] <TacoTacos> The only difference between arch bang and arch linux is the WM
[21:48] <cer> reisio: thanks a lot!
[21:49] <Meris> TacoTacos, whoa! talk about strict, but I think we'd better discuss this on #ubuntu-offtopic ;-)
[21:49] <mohab> Thanks  alot
[21:49] <Tiensbakung> Meris, you should. I actually have two laptops, one is running debian now, one is runing arch, you will learn a lot using arch
[21:49] <reisio> :)
[21:50] <Meris> Tiensbakung, I will, though I dread the depency hells of old...
[21:50] <Meris> Tiensbakung, I will, though I dread the dependency hells of old... (Oops, typo there)
[21:50] <mohab> Another thing I liked how the program so that I can send a message to warn a particular person, such as what do you do
[21:51] <mohab> ??
[21:52] <Meris> mohab, those are called IRC scripts. They are used by the operators of this channel to keep things manageable. But this channel's main topic is ubuntu support, not a howto on IRC servers.
[21:52] <jhutchins> mohab: The error message contains instructions to solve the problem, simply follow them or shut Windows down properly.
[21:53] <TacoTacos> Is it a pain to adjust a trackpad on a chromebook?
[21:54] <mohab> @jhutchins thank you
[21:54] <reisio> TacoTacos: compared to what?
[21:54] <reisio> certainly not compared to getting another OS onto a chromebook :p
[21:54] <TacoTacos> I dunno in general. Not sure what I need to do to get the trackpad not to work like crap
[21:54] <reisio> define 'like crap'
[21:55] <TacoTacos> It stops sensing my finger
[21:55] <TacoTacos> There is a fix for the c710 but the the zip is gone too fix it
[21:55] <mohab> Meris
[21:56] <Meris> mohab, yes?
[21:56] <mohab> Do you received alert
[21:57] <ninaneufeld> anyone knows how to activate SD card reader in Thinkpad
[21:57] <jhutchins> TacoTacos: If it was a zip it probably wasn't for linux.
[21:57] <jhutchins> !chromebook
[21:57] <jhutchins> Stupid bot...
[21:57] <mohab> How do I send an alert to someone that my question
[21:58] <mohab> Like you submit to me  mohab, yes?
[21:58] <Meris> mohab, just prefix your question with the nickname of the one you are trying to reach, just as you did with me and as I am doing right now with your name
[21:59] <jhutchins> mohab: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[21:59] <JOY_> any body tell me the name of the codecs to install in 13.04 to play mp3s
[21:59] <reisio> JOY_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[22:00] <mohab> Meris>>>> Thanks you
[22:01] <Meris> mohab, you should thanbk jhutchins as well, he/ she gave you a very useful link to read a bit about IRC
[22:01] <larrypg> JOY_, or apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:02] <mohab> yap
[22:03] <ccmolik_> so is it unsupported to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 directly?
[22:03] <Pessimist> ccmolik_, iirc it will be once 14.04.1 will be released
[22:03] <Meris> Pessimist, any roadmap for that release?
[22:04] <mohab> I'm English so my English is bad will train myself so I understand what you are talking ...
[22:04] <mohab> You will also read the book so I can correctly
[22:04] <Pessimist> Meris, I think .1 will be released once 14.10 is released
[22:04] <darkseid> I got an error also: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/yorba/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages
[22:04] <Lachezar> Hey people. I want to upgrade to 14.04, but there are some packages the manager wants to remove, and I do not want it to!
[22:05] <darkseid> How can i fix it?
[22:05] <Lachezar> Those packages are manually installed, and no longer in any repo.
[22:05] <darkseid> Remove lists file?
[22:05] <mohab> Thank you all good luck
[22:06] <Meris> Pessimist, thx for the note.
[22:06] <Pessimist> Meris, .2 when 15.04, .3 when 15.10 and so on
[22:07] <krabador> hi, what's the command line name for "user accounts" setting folder?
[22:08] <Meris> Pessimist, would that also mean that if there is a bug preventing me to install Ubuntu 14.04.0 onto my computer that I should try a nightly instead if that bug has been marked fixed?
[22:08] <darkseid> Guys, I need some help. My system is fresh and is just hanging..
[22:08] <darkseid> The wi-fi media button isn't working.. Is disabled.
[22:08] <Guest74494> i can't download software from the software center, pliz help
[22:09] <Tiensbakung> Krabador: what you really want?
[22:09] <Meris> darkseid, OK, Wifi won't work, is there anything right now that does work?
[22:10] <krabador> Tiensbakung, i need to launch user accounts, in settings, from terminal
[22:10] <harley> hi
[22:10] <harley> i am new here
[22:10] <Meris> krabador, there are better command line tools for user management, what is your end goal?
[22:10] <Guest74494> hii, i can't download software from software center
[22:11] <darkseid> Meris, Is just the button and: --- Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/yorba/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages
[22:11] <Guest74494> pliz help
[22:11] <willyg_cos> Meris: I looked into the do-release-upgrade option for 12.04 to 14.04 a couple of days ago.  Somewhere on the Ubuntu website it said "Once 14.04.1 is released", and they expected that will be late July 2014...
[22:11] <krabador> Meris, that folder, with my a10 5700 amd, and 8 gb ram, wants 10 minutes to opens
[22:11] <Tiensbakung> Guest74494: How exactly?
[22:13] <Tiensbakung> krabador: try launch ubuntu control center, then user accounts, maybe
[22:13] <Guest74494> Tiens: no install tab available for all software. only source tab
[22:13] <Meris> willyg_cos, hmm, that is a nice estimate. Guess I'll be going for a new install instead. My present system is a bit out of whack, so it will definitely benefit from a fresh install.
[22:13] <JOY_> larrypg : ya dat i hv done but still it is not playing the mp3s and videos !
[22:13] <krabador> Tiensbakung, ok  i try
[22:13] <JOY_> larrypg
[22:15] <hiig_> hey, is anyone able to help me set up raid1? ive got a computer here on the installation screen, but i cant find anything regarding raid. im on lubuntu, but that channel is dead. hoping someone here might be able to help
[22:15] <Tiensbakung> socket: how is your /etc/apt/source.list?
[22:15] <reisio> hiig_: doesn't sound like raid is anything you'd want
[22:16] <hiig_> reisio: why?
[22:16] <reisio> hiig_: doesn't sound like you know what it's for (a lot of people don't)
[22:16] <reisio> it's not a backup system, if that's what you've been thinking
[22:16] <hiig_> redundancy for a cctv server is what im using it for
[22:17] <xum> it kind of is like backup though
[22:17] <reisio> raid is not about data redundancy
[22:17] <reisio> it's about access redundancy
[22:17] <reisio> ...but not with two disks :p
[22:17] <reisio> with two disks it's about employment redundancy, 'cause you'll get fired when things explode :p
[22:17] <hiig_> well whatever the case is, i need to set something up that would allow a computer to continue if one hard disk fails, and not lose any data in the process
[22:17] <reisio> hiig_: you need a lot more disks, then
[22:18] <hiig_> yeah, see, im not made of money, unfortunately
[22:18] <reisio> then you don't want raid
[22:18] <hiig_> whats the alternative?
[22:18] <reisio> try a good old fashioned mirroring backup
[22:18] <reisio> like lsyncd
[22:18] <hiig_> that a terminal command?
[22:19] <reisio> it's probably daemonized
[22:19] <reisio> uses rsync
[22:19] <socket> tiens: ubuntu13.10 studio_saucy salamander_Release i386
[22:19] <Meris> Good night everyone, I'm going to sleep now. Tiensbakung, Pessimist, oldwzd, Jordan_U reisio : Thanks for all the hints,
[22:19] <Tiensbakung> Meris: Good night.
[22:19] <oldwzd> Meris: nn
[22:23] <Tiensbakung> socket, http://askubuntu.com/questions/36484/how-do-i-add-a-software-source
[22:23] <cer> hi everybody again .... so I have finally been able to format the external 3TB disk to ext4 .... now, I would like to mount it so that anyuser can use it .... but I do not seem to be able to do that!
[22:23] <socket> Tiens: thanks, i'll try
[22:24] <Tiensbakung> socket, check the "Ubuntu Software" tab, to see if all sources are ticked
[22:25] <wheatthin> cer, you must add an entry in /etc/fstab with the default users read write permissions
[22:25] <wheatthin> !fstab
[22:25] <cer> wheatthin: it seems to be correct
[22:26] <wheatthin> ok.. then make the drive read and writable to the users group, or a specific users group
[22:26] <wheatthin> of your choice in the terminal
[22:26] <cer> wheatthin: mmmm .... I need really anyone to be able to mount it, on any laptop
[22:26] <cer> brb
[22:26] <wheatthin> cer, right, so anyone in the "users" group should have access.
[22:31] <cer> wheatthin: I do not seem to be able tsort it out ....
[22:31] <cer> wheatthin: the disk is always mounted as root
[22:32] <cer> wheatthin: it is formatted as ext4
[22:32] <darkseid> How to reset my hp's bios to default from ubuntu?
[22:33] <mgolisch> cer: how did you mount it? also what do you mean by mounted as root?
[22:33] <Pessimist> darkseid, what do you mean?
[22:33] <reisio> darkseid: 'default'?
[22:33] <mgolisch> he wants to reset his cmos setting from within linux i guess
[22:33] <cer> mgolisch: the user owning it is root root hence nobody can save or create anything on it
[22:33] <awesomess3> I did it! WoW (World of Warcraft) on/from a LiveUSB with a USB hard drive! :D  http://corey-a.blogspot.com/2014/04/wow-world-of-warcraft-starter-edition.html
[22:33] <Tiensbakung> cer: http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/01/permanently-mount-ext3ext4-drives-with.html, is this helping?
[22:34] <reisio> mgolisch: I would not guess that :p
[22:34] <awesomess3> Corey, oh nooooo
[22:34] <reisio> he probably means grub
[22:34] <reisio> but since we can all communicate, I'll just wait for him to answer :p
[22:34] <cer> mgolisch: Tiensbakung mmmm no .... I am trying to automount so that any user can use it
[22:35] <mgolisch> cer: did you change the permissions on the thing initialy?
[22:35] <darkseid> When I turn my computer on, I have a cmos error. I have to configure something in bios , but, There is nothing to configure. I already tried everything. " reisio, Pessimist
[22:35] <reisio> mgolisch: ha!
[22:35] <cer> mgolisch: what do you mean?
[22:35] <reisio> darkseid: what's the exact error?
[22:35] <darkseid> reisio: cmos error. I really don't know what that means. CMOS ..
[22:36] <reisio> darkseid: that's all it says, 'cmos error'?
[22:36] <wheatthin> hmm sounds like a bios was flashed wrong
[22:36] <mgolisch> cer: by default on newly created extfs volumes only root can write, youd have to change the permissions first
[22:37] <cer> mgolisch: oh
[22:37] <cer> mgolisch: and how do you do that??
[22:37] <darkseid> reisio: OK, it says something like: ! please, check your bios settings. in case of filure, contact hp techcenter. cmos need to be restarted. --
[22:37] <wheatthin> darkseid, were you touching parts while plugged in?
[22:37] <reisio> via /etc/fstab and/or chmod/chown
[22:37] <darkseid> Preety weird..
[22:37] <reisio> darkseid: mmm, did you change any hardware recently?
[22:37] <darkseid> pretty...
[22:37] <darkseid> No..
[22:38] <Bludot> whats that command to show pci display drivers?
[22:38] <Tiensbakung> cer: add a fstab entry, create a script for chown, in some file managers, they allow you run some commands after automount, point it to your script
[22:38] <reisio> well, many BIOSes have a 'reset to defaults' option, if you can get into the BIOS menu
[22:38] <wheatthin> darkseid, how about cpu frequencies?
[22:38] <mgolisch> darkseid: press whatever button is needed to enter the cmos setup utility then, refer to your computers handbook if its doesnt display the key during boot
[22:38] <reisio> Bludot: lspci or lspci -k
[22:38] <cer> Tiensbakung: every time?
[22:38] <mgolisch> darkseid: alternative you could remove the cmos battery to clear it and reset to defaults
[22:38] <wheatthin> darkseid, is it a laptop? or desktop computer? if it's a desktop, they have jumpers you can use to reset
[22:39] <Bludot> what about lshw?
[22:39] <darkseid> wheatthin: ?
[22:39] <cer> Tiensbakung: I need to be mounted as whatever user, not to run chown every time
[22:39] <darkseid> wheatthin: Yes HP laptop
[22:39] <cer> mgolisch: how do you change the intial ownership?
[22:39] <mgolisch> cer: using the chown command
[22:39] <darkangel> hey im just curious if your port forwarding through a modem do you need an Ethernet wire to make it work or can ya use Wifi to?
[22:39] <darkseid> mgolisch: Is a little one near the ram memories?
[22:39] <cer> mgolisch: but every time I automount?
[22:40] <Tiensbakung> cer: no, when a disk is auto mounted, the scripted will be executed after automatically
[22:40] <darkseid> Another think is, seem like I don't have swap active. How can I active it?
[22:40] <darkseid> mgolisch: Wheatthin: I'll try remove the battery later..
[22:40] <cer> Tiensbakung: I really do not udnerstand .... every time we change all the ownerships?
[22:41] <wheatthin> darkseid, http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02693833&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en
[22:41] <darkseid> Any idea about how to active a swap?
[22:41] <darkseid> wheatthin: I'll see it..
[22:41] <reisio> 'swapon'
[22:41] <mgolisch> cer: it should be sufficient to change the permissions once
[22:42] <wheatthin> swapon /dev/sdx
[22:42] <Tiensbakung> cer: the one owns that ext4 partition will always own it, not the user who mounts it, if you want everyone can mount it r/w, chown is the way
[22:42] <qnlinux> Bludot: mdidecode -u
[22:42] <cer> mgolisch: I do not really understand .... there aare 10s of users .... each user should be allowed to automount and write ....
[22:43] <wheatthin> cer, add it to a specific group, and add those users to that group..
[22:43] <hankey> Hey guys. I can't import my vpn configuration file (open vpn). It just freezes and then closes
[22:43] <mgolisch> cer: set permissions so that others has read/write everyone can write to it then
[22:43] <wheatthin> hankey, it doesn't give you a log of some sort?
[22:44] <darkseid> wheatthin: Very thank you. I'll proceed with the instructions. I think is exactly that..
[22:44] <mgolisch> hankey: same here its a bug
[22:44] <mgolisch> create it manualy
[22:44] <hankey> wheatthin: NO
[22:44] <hankey> no*
[22:44] <hankey> mgolisch: such a pain though
[22:44] <mgolisch> hankey:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openvpn/+bug/1294899
[22:45] <cer> mgolisch: it seems quite a heavy handed approach .... can we simply not mount it with the user flag on?
[22:45] <hankey> also for whatever reason the battery indicator is not on my toolbar
[22:45] <adamcunnington> what's the command to pastebin stuff again, i always forget, drives me mad
[22:45] <hankey> it happened after a fresh install
[22:46] <hankey> anyone know what's going on with that?
[22:46] <mgolisch> hankey: you on battery? i think it doenst display if your on power cord
[22:46] <hankey> mgolisch: no im not using a power cord right now
[22:46] <hankey> mgolisch: yes I am on battery
[22:47] <Tiensbakung> cer: try adding "user,rw" options in fstab
[22:47] <hankey> mgolisch: I have tried googling this but i cant come up with anything
[22:47] <adamcunnington> Hi, what's the ubuntu app called where you can send terminal output to paste.ubuntu.com just by sticking | <paste command> at the end of a command
[22:48] <trism> adamcunnington: pastebinit?
[22:48] <reisio> adamcunnington: pastebinit
[22:48] <reisio> trism: pastebinit
[22:48] <adamcunnington> thank you
[22:48] <adamcunnington> why do i always forget it
[22:48] <adamcunnington> it's so flipping irritating
[22:48] <reisio> 'cause
[22:48] <reisio> you need ginkgo!
[22:49] <hankey> mgolisch: any idea as to what to do?
[22:49] <adamcunnington> I recently updated to 14.04 and i had to reinstall some third party stuff. When i now do apt-get update, i get the following error at the end of this output; http://paste.ubuntu.com/7369424/
[22:51] <adamcunnington> What I don't understand is that I can see repo.steampowered.com added as a software source but i downloaded steam from the ubuntu appstore. What do I need to do to fix?
[22:51] <darkseid> wheatthin: Do you know something about enable a swap partition?
[22:52] <ubuntu> hello?
[22:52] <aarobc> nice username
[22:52] <aarobc> lol
[22:52] <Guest18892> thanks bro
[22:52] <Guest18892> Dangit I lost it
[22:53] <JOY> that our OS !!! :D :D
[22:53] <Guest18892> I am using Matthew Moore's ubuntu remix and am locked out of preforming any commands...
[22:53] <hankey> This is so irritating
[22:54] <Guest18892> I cannot use "sudo" because it says [sudo] password for ubuntu:  and then I alwasy get it wrong
[22:54] <cactuswizard> this is kinda awkward tbh
[22:54] <adamcunnington> anyone able to help?
[22:54] <mgolisch> hankey: install dconf-editor and look at the value of com->cannonical->indicators->power->icon-policy
[22:55] <Guest18892> I cannot use "sudo" because it says [sudo] password for ubuntu:  and then I alwasy get it wrong, Anyone have a idea of how to get around this and make my user account with administrative powers
[22:55] <Bashing-om> Guest18892: Now that is an application of security, with out  Matthew Moore's password, yep, you are relegated to a normal user status.
[22:55] <cactuswizard> had to re-install ubuntu and upgrade, but now after finishing everything my computer seems kinda slow, which didn't earlier occur except while accessing unity menu
[22:56] <hankey> mgolisch: on it
[22:57] <Guest18892> dangit. So there's no way around it for me to run any sudo commands?
[22:57] <hankey> mgolisch: it says it's set to charge...but i changed it to always show in settings
[22:57] <cer> mgolisch: well, I just reboot and I connected another 3TB usb disk but formatted NTFS .... it mounts correctly with the name of the user that is mounting
[22:57] <cer> mgolisch: there is nothing in the fstab
[22:57] <oneof3> hello. what are the benefits of trying to updated version of a recommended driver? even if that updated version is not labeled recommended ?
[22:58] <mgolisch> hankey: change the value to present, and it should allways show
[22:58] <hankey> oneof3: performance for whatever the driver is designed to do? I suppose
[22:58] <hankey> mgolisch: I just did, nothing happened
[22:58] <oneof3> will it usually work better or the same, but not any worse?
[22:58] <cer> mgolisch: so it cannot be the entry in the fstab, it must be a problem with ext4
[22:58] <mgolisch> hankey: you probably need to relogin
[22:58] <hankey> brb
[22:58] <oneof3> ty hankey
[22:58] <Bashing-om> Guest18892: Not without really really irritating  Matthew Moore to no end, and breaking up a good friendship.
[22:59] <mgolisch> cer: did you change the permissions?
[22:59] <mgolisch> it wont work without
[22:59] <cer> mgolisch: but what to?
[22:59] <Tiensbakung> adamcunnington:  your added source repo is unreachable
[22:59] <mgolisch> with ntfs it fakes the ownership using a mount option, as it doenst support the unix permission system
[22:59] <mgolisch> for extfs you need to set correct permissions
[22:59] <cer> mgolisch: and why I do not have to do that on NTFS drives?
[23:00] <mgolisch> because it mounts it in a way that all files belong to the user that mounted it
[23:00] <mgolisch> this does not work for extfs filesystem, you need to initialy set correct permissions
[23:00] <cer> mgolisch: well, that is exactly what I would like to do on the ext4 disk ....
[23:02] <Tiensbakung> cer: how about you set permissions for all files in the disk to be 777
[23:02] <cer> Tiensbakung: orgh! an security?
[23:02] <bluezone_> rofl
[23:03] <mgolisch> security of what?
[23:03] <mgolisch> its an external disk
[23:03] <Tiensbakung> cer: you want it to be auto mounted by all user with r/w, there is no security
[23:03] <cer> Tiensbakung: yes, you are right .... sorry 777 gives me the allergy, and I give an automatic answer .... apologies!
[23:04] <Tiensbakung> cer: no problem
[23:04] <tuxkid> hi
[23:04] <reisio> hi tux
[23:04] <Tiensbakung> cer: you may also want to set mask bit, so files newly created are also 777
[23:05] <Ellen18>  You can find funny videos here. http://bit.ly/1gAh6Jy
[23:05] <cer> Tiensbakung: yes, you are all right ....
[23:06] <hankey> hey installing that for the battery indicator didn't work
[23:06] <hankey> it is still missing
[23:07] <mgolisch> hankey: so you set the value to pressent and its still missing?
[23:07] <hankey> mgolisch: yes
[23:07] <hankey> mgolisch: I even restarted
[23:08] <mgolisch> you could try reinstalling indicator-power
[23:08] <hankey> mgolisch: sounds good to me. I'm desperate
[23:08] <hankey> mgolisch: how do I do that?
[23:09] <mgolisch> hankey: sudo apt-get --purge --reinstall install indicator-power
[23:10] <hankey> mgolisch: nothing happened :/
[23:11] <mgolisch> hankey: you may need to restart after that id guess, if it doenst work try removing the battery for a few seconds then turn back on
[23:11] <hankey> mgolisch: ok
[23:11] <hankey> mgolisch: ill be back
[23:12] <ubuntas> hello
[23:13] <reisio> 'lo ubuntas
[23:13] <ubuntas> whazup?
[23:13] <reisio> nada
[23:14] <hankey> I did it but it didn't work
[23:14] <hankey> i even removed the battery
[23:16] <mgolisch> hankey:  odd, does the system settings -> power thing indicate that you have a battery installed?
[23:16] <mgolisch> i think it displays a bar with the charge status
[23:16] <hankey> mgolisch: how would I tell if it is indicated?
[23:16] <wolfspy> hello, I linked /usr/mark2/mark2 to /usr/bin/mark2, but when I run "mark2" it still shows that the command dosen't exist, even though it is in /usr/bin. Anyone know why (I'm running ubuntu server)
[23:16] <mgolisch> go to system settings - power
[23:17] <hankey> mgolisch: All I see is suspend when inactive for and show battery status in the menu bar
[23:17] <mgolisch> does it show a bar for the battery?
[23:17] <hankey> nothing else
[23:17] <hankey> mgolisch: no
[23:17] <mrpizzaface> Hey anyone here know how to get Jack to work with ubuntu 14.04 LTS ?
[23:17] <aarobc> Um, how do I get google maps to work in chrome on ubuntu? It's just a black page
[23:19] <Bashing-om> wolfspy: is '/usr/mark2/' in the path ? -> echo $PATH <- ??
[23:19] <mrpizzaface> aarobc: do you have Flash installed ?
[23:19] <mgolisch> hankey: hm maybe it doenst detect your battery
[23:19] <reisio> aarobc: http://maps.google.com/maps?output=classic
[23:19] <mgolisch> hankey: what laptop model is that?
[23:19] <aarobc> mrpizzaface: yeah, but I thought it was openGL something
[23:20] <wolfspy> Bashing-om, /usr/bin is in the path and /usr/mark2/mark2 is softlinked to /usr/bin
[23:20] <hankey> mgolisch: asus...the thing is I sent it into geek squad to get some parts replaced and now (after I replaced the hard drive) the battery indicator doesnt show up
[23:20] <mrpizzaface> aarobc: last time i checked that Google maps used flash
[23:21] <lucastt> is there a way to change the default screenshot folder
[23:21] <lucastt> ?
[23:23] <reisio> lucastt: yup
[23:23] <lucastt> can you tell me how?
[23:24] <Bashing-om> wolfspy: Humm don't know did you -> sudo ln -s /path/to/new/file /path/to/former/location/file <-???
[23:24] <wolfspy> would just moving the mark2 folder to /usr/bin work?
[23:24] <mgolisch> hankey: what does cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state       display?
[23:24] <wolfspy> Bashing-om, I did  ln -s /usr/mark2/mark2 /usr/bin/mark2
[23:25] <hankey> mgolisch: no such file or directory
[23:25] <hankey> mgolisch: the battery directory doesn't exist
[23:25] <lucastt> reisio: ?
[23:25] <aarobc> that worked
[23:26] <Bashing-om> wolfspy: Again, don't know, looks to me like should work, maybe I need teaching too !
[23:26] <wolfspy> is moving the folder ok, or would that mess something up?
[23:26] <mgolisch> hankey: is there /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0 ?
[23:27] <hankey> mgolisch: there is a power_supply, not a BAT0
[23:27] <hankey> mgolisch: i just ls'd in the power_supply directory
[23:27] <wolfspy> or can I add /usr/mark2/mark2 to PATH?
[23:27] <Bashing-om> wolfspy: Well, after the link is established, one can remove the contents of the original, but the original directory must remain.
[23:28] <wolfspy> Bashing-om, can I just add the orginal directory to $path?
[23:28] <mgolisch> hankey: looks like acpi didnt detect a battery then id guess, cant realy tell as i removed the battery on my macbook as it was malfunctioning, but id asume it would have the battery there if it was detected
[23:29] <hankey> mgolisch: what do I do?
[23:29] <Bashing-om> wolfspy: Nothing says that you can not try it. it is reversable, huh ?
[23:31] <Bashing-om> wolfspy: Hey, messing about in system direcories requires sudo (/usr to /usr) .
[23:31] <mgolisch> hankey: check dmesg output for acpi error
[23:31] <Bashing-om> *directories
[23:32] <hankey> mgolisch: lots of stuff came up
[23:32] <hankey> how do I output this to a file? who do I show it to?
[23:33] <lucastt> is there a way to change the default screenshot folder?
[23:33] <hankey> mgolisch: also, I'm seeing that one solution is to turn on the computer without a battery and then shut it down. Should I try that?
[23:33] <Fuchs> hankey:  command > file    puts the output (not errors, for that use &>) to file  (overwriting it if already existing)
[23:34] <wolfspy> yay adding it to path worked
[23:34] <mgolisch> sudo apt-get install pastebinit    then dmesg|pastebinit
[23:34] <wolfspy> how to delete a softlink?
[23:34] <mgolisch> wolfspy: unlink/rm ?
[23:34] <lucastt> anyone knos about that? change the default screenshot folder
[23:35] <hankey> mgolisch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7369648/
[23:35] <mgolisch> hankey: your kernel commandline contains acpi=off no wonder it doesnt detect the battery
[23:36] <hankey> mgolisch: oh...lol. I can't boot to a GUI if I don't have that in grub
[23:39] <mgolisch> what happens if you remove that? does it display any acpi errors?
[23:39] <hankey> mgolisch: I don't remember. I think it just hung on a black screen on boot
[23:40] <hankey> mgolisch: I'm at grub right now, if you have a suggestion as to what I should change it to
[23:41] <bprompt> wolfspy:    rm SOLFLINK    :)
[23:41] <bprompt> man, even typos there... anyhow "rm SOFTLINK"
[23:42] <mgolisch> hankey: not realy, id google for your laptop model
[23:43] <hankey> mgolisch: thanks for all of the help. really appreciate it
[23:44] <mgolisch> hankey: no problem
[23:46] <Knight80> Hello everybody
[23:46] <joshua__> anybody have some experience adding a second hdd?
[23:48] <Knight80> joshua shouldn't it be "Anybody HAS some experience?"
[23:48] <presonic> when i rebooted ubuntu asked me if i wanted to upgrade to 14, i had to cancel to free some disk space, now how do i start the upgrade process again?
[23:49] <Knight80> joshua__ shouldn't it be "Anybody HAS some experience?"
[23:49] <joshua__> my apologies English is not one of my strong point
[23:49] <Knight80> joshua Don't worry, where are you from?
[23:49] <joshua__> Arkansas
[23:49] <Bashing-om> joshua__: My reference I use -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive <- .
[23:49] <lucastt> is there a way to change the default screenshot folder?
[23:50] <Knight80> joshua How come you're from Arkansas and don't speak English?
[23:50] <k1l_> joshua__: you want to start the upgrade again?
[23:50] <k1l_> joshua__: or do you want to add a hhd or do you want to free some space?
[23:51] <joshua__> I added a new drive for extra space, it works fine at the command line, I cannot get it to show on the desktop though
[23:52] <dtigue> presonic just open the terminal and type sudo update-manager -d
[23:52] <presonic> k
[23:52] <dtigue> put your password in when prompted for it
[23:52] <joshua__> Knight80 in little backwoods towns they don't focus on proper English much
[23:52] <k1l_> presonic: you dont need the -d. the -d is for development updates ( dtigue )
[23:53] <dtigue> actually it should have been,  'Does anyone have experience...'
[23:53] <laka> I rebooted my system during a raid1 rebuild. Now I'm left at the grub menu at startup, saying "error: invalid environment block. invalid magic number. you need to load the kernel first". what to do..? :-/
[23:54] <Bashing-om> joshua__: I am an Arkansas Ridge Runner and I can cypher out what ya say just fine.
[23:54] <joshua__> Thank you Bashing-om
[23:54] <mgolisch> lucastt: yes, install dconf-editor and edit org->gnome->gnome-screenshot->auto-save-directory
[23:54] <mgolisch> lucastt: it should use that as the default then
[23:54] <laka> I tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/191852/error-invalid-environment-block-press-any-key-to-continue, but I'm unable to open a Terminal (can't boot)
[23:55] <dtigue> k1l_ oops, sorry,  that's what I get for copy/paste'ing
[23:57] <lucastt> hm, mgolisch , i tried that
[23:57] <lucastt> but it still saves it on another folder
[23:57] <mgolisch> lucastt: what exactly do you use to make the screenshots?
[23:58] <k1l_> lucastt: maybe you need to restart that (or just relogin)
[23:58] <lucastt> the print screen button
[23:58] <mgolisch> lucastt: you do use ubuntu right(gnome/unity)
[23:58] <k1l_> restart that service, i mean
[23:58] <lucastt> i'm using a ubuntu derivation
[23:58] <k1l_> lucastt: which one?
[23:58] <lucastt> elementary os
[23:58] <dtigue> laka: you can try booting from a live discourage and using chroot to fix grub, google it, I'm driving
[23:59] <k1l_> hmm, then elementary seems to change the standard there. better ask them what to do
[23:59] <lucastt> i tried on #elementary
[23:59] <lucastt> but they don't talk much there
[23:59] <lucastt> how do i restart the service k1l_ ?