[07:22] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:18] <Riddell> morning lordievader 
[09:18] <Riddell> lordievader: how's the feedback from 14.04?
[09:26] <lordievader> Seems to be running wel for people.
[09:26] <lordievader> :)
[09:30] <Riddell> lovely
[09:31] <lordievader> What is your opinion on the code name Utopic Unicorn?
[09:34] <Riddell> seems like a nice codename
[09:34] <Riddell> scotland's national animal, or so maco says
[09:37] <lordievader> I didn't know that. That's nice.
[10:38] <ScottK> apachelogger's national animal too.
[10:46] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:08] <doctorpepper> hi guys !
[11:12] <doctorpepper> Riddell: is it safe to update to kde 4.13 [ precise ]  with the following packages  kept back : akregator calligra-libs calligrasheets dolphin gir1.2-telepathylogger-0.2 gwenview kaddressbook kde-baseapps   kdepim-kresources kjots kleopatra kmail knode knotes kontact kopete korganizer krita krita-data libcalendarsupport4 libeventviews4 libincidenceeditorsng4  libkdepim4 libkdepimdbusinterfaces4 libkdgantt2-0 libkleo4 libkmanagesieve4 libkolab0 
[11:12] <doctorpepper> libkopete4 libkpgp4 libksieve4 libksieveui4 libmailcommon4 libmailimporter4 libmessagecomposer4 libmessagecore4 libmessagelist4 libmessageviewer4 libnepomukcleaner4 libnepomukcore4abi1 libpimcommon4 libsendlater4  libtelepathy-farstream2 libtemplateparser4 marrble marble-plugins nepomuk-core-dev  nepomuk-core-runtime okular okular-extra-backends telepathy-logger 
[12:13] <Riddell> doctorpepper_: oh that's kdepim-runtime needs recompiled, I'll set that off now
[12:13] <Riddell> oh and shadeslayer didn't get back to me about the telepathy packages in staging for precise
[12:13] <Riddell> nudge shadeslayer ↑
[12:59] <apachelogger> ScottK: pam-kwallet sru waiting for you btw
[13:12] <ScottK> Maybe tonight. 
[13:16] <Riddell> ScottK: also qt fix for saucy and quantal verified in bug 1289600, still waiting on verification in precise, the tester says he can't recreate the problem
[13:38] <Riddell> morning sgclark 
[13:38] <sgclark> Riddell: morning :) I am looking at symbols again, it is behaving badly heh
[13:39] <Riddell> sgclark: ach ignore the symbols in backports
[13:39] <Riddell> we know there's no new symbols in it because there isn't in the development series builds, so we don't need to care about backports
[13:39] <Riddell> sgclark: so I say http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.13.0_precise.html is good to test and go
[13:39] <Riddell> doctorpepper_: ↑
[13:40] <doctorpepper_> yes
[13:40] <Riddell> oh but telepathy is the remaining issue
[13:40] <Riddell> where's shadeslayer when you need him?
[13:40] <Riddell> I'll probably just delete the telepathy packages in that PPA
[13:41] <doctorpepper_> ok 
[13:42] <doctorpepper_> i have just updated  apt cache  but  i still have the same list  of kept back packages 
[13:42] <sgclark> Riddell: ok ignoring
[13:44] <Riddell> doctorpepper_: what does apt-cache policy say is the version of kdepim-runtime?
[13:47] <doctorpepper_> actually  it's a error on my part   i used apt-get upgrade instead of  apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:47] <BluesKaj> doctorpepper_, you can still run dist-upgrade
[13:48] <doctorpepper_> why ?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> doctorpepper_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/194651/why-use-apt-get-upgrade-instead-of-apt-get-dist-upgrade
[14:41] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I was backporting the packages, but it's far too many things
[14:47] <maco> Riddell: i said what?
[16:07] <dodger> hi
[16:07] <d_ed> hey guys, one of our users dodger has a problem with KTp; they have ktp 0.8.1 and not libkpeople 0.2.2 which is causing problems.
[16:08] <dodger> i'm on trusty, upgraded last week
[16:08] <d_ed> looking at packages.ubuntu.com it seems trusty has versions that work; with 0.8.0
[16:08] <d_ed> so I'm confused how he might have got 0.8.1
[16:10] <Riddell> dodger: you're on 14.04 (trusty)? any PPAs?
[16:11] <dodger> no PPAs - I've tried enabling the backports PPA, but no new version is in there
[16:11] <dodger> i've got pre-released and unsupported updates on in Muon
[16:12] <Riddell> dodger: ah yes pre-release (proposed) has kpeople 0.8.1
[16:12] <Riddell> bug 1313611
[16:13] <dodger> aha
[16:13] <dodger> that explains it then
[16:13] <dodger> i'll try forcing that to 0.8.0
[16:13] <d_ed> Riddell: can I request that you put in libkpeople 0.2.2 before you let this hit trusty.
[16:14] <Riddell> d_ed: yes you can
[16:14] <d_ed> I'm glad we have the proposed PPA. It seems to have done it's job
[16:14] <Riddell> shadeslayer: your doing ↑
[16:14] <d_ed> it's our fault for making a minor release which relies on another minor release.
[16:15] <d_ed> I'll comment on the bug
[16:15] <d_ed> oh you have
[16:15] <d_ed> perfect
[16:15] <Riddell> d_ed: any sign of shadeslayer in today?
[16:15] <doctorpepper> Riddell:  after updating to to kde4.13 stagging   akonadi refuses to start 
[16:15] <d_ed> it's a public holiday in Spain
[16:15] <d_ed> (yeah, it's weird)
[16:15] <doctorpepper> here is  the output  of akonadictl start : http://paste.kde.org/p2kw5lgrl
[16:16] <d_ed> and tomorrow we have the neon ISO to deal with
[16:16] <Riddell> d_ed: ah, may day, he's out with the workers
[16:17] <d_ed> yeah, they don't just move it to Monday like a sensible country
[16:17] <Riddell> doctorpepper: pastebin apt-cache policy akonadi-server
[16:19] <doctorpepper> http://paste.kde.org/p2kw5lgrl
[16:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: fixing
[16:21] <shadeslayer> d_ed: you could have just called me D
[16:22] <doctorpepper> Riddell:  any idea
[16:24] <shadeslayer> ScottK: please accept libkpeople
[16:26] <Riddell> doctorpepper: nope :(  working fine for me testing on an ec2
[16:28]  * shadeslayer feels so silly
[16:29] <d_ed> heh, it shows your processes work
[16:29] <shadeslayer> :)
[16:29] <shadeslayer> d_ed: are you at the office?
[16:30] <dodger> you guys are awesome, BTW :)
[16:30] <dodger> thanks a lot for the quick response
[16:31] <d_ed> shadeslayer: yeah
[16:31] <shadeslayer> dodger: well someone needs to accept libkpeople first :P
[16:31] <d_ed> it's just me and Alex.
[16:31] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[16:31] <d_ed> and we're not doing work things
[16:32] <shadeslayer> :D
[16:33] <dodger> still, much appreciated!  hopefully this won't hit many other people
[16:34] <Riddell> doctorpepper: "DATABASE ERROR:" ah so it's a problem with the akonadi upgrade I guess :(  try asking in #kontact
[16:34] <shadeslayer> what's interesting is that I thought I bumped the libkpeople dep
[16:39]  * Riddell out for a bit
[21:23] <Riddell> doctorpepper: any luck?
[21:24] <doctorpepper> Stallmanu: i need some help 
[21:24] <doctorpepper> Riddell:   everything went well 
[21:25] <doctorpepper> except for one thing  i have  some issues with baloo 
[21:26] <Riddell> uh oh
[21:26] <doctorpepper>  it has been indexing for 2h45 min 
[21:27] <Riddell> not unusual if you have lots of stuff in your home directory
[21:32] <doctorpepper> well i have around 40G 
[21:35] <doctorpepper> plus all my mails (including 2y of fedora and kubuntu mailing list archive 1 y of samba)
[21:53] <Riddell> so it'll take a while
[22:04]  * Riddell publishes http://www.kubuntu.org/news/calligra-2.8.1
[22:04]  * Riddell also publishes http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.13
[22:18] <valorie> weeeee
[22:19] <valorie> I got a few people in #kubuntu and at LFNW asking for those in backports
[22:22] <valorie> also, burning ISOs, I burned about half to an Ubuntu, perhaps 1/3 to Kubuntu, and the remainder to the other flavors
[22:22] <valorie> everything but Mythbuntu and UbuntuKylin I think
[22:22] <valorie> people were jazzed that i had all the isos
[22:23] <valorie> and some told me that even though they wanted Ubuntu, they planned on getting Kubuntu-desktop as well, to at least try it out
[22:25] <dodger> i have to say, this is another rock-solid release
[22:25] <dodger> respect, kubuntu folks :)
[22:27] <valorie> thanks, dodger
[22:27] <valorie> that's been my experience as well
[23:09] <Riddell> valorie: LFNW?
[23:10] <Riddell> dodger: how's telepathy doing with the kpeople update?
[23:15] <valorie> Linuxfest Northwest
[23:15] <valorie> I shared a table (ubuntu-washington) with Debian
[23:15] <valorie> although the deb people only stopped to say hi
[23:16] <valorie> which was sad