[03:06] Re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1313981 what can I do to test why the mainline kernel wouldn't load? [03:06] Launchpad bug 1313981 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel disabling serial port ttyS0 on boot" [Medium,Confirmed] [07:05] regression testing? :P [08:17] Good morning. Can you let me know if you have sufficient information on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-saucy/+bug/1314764 please. [08:17] Launchpad bug 1314764 in linux-lts-saucy (Ubuntu) "[Fujitsu Lifebook E744/E754] i8042 without psmouse means no keyboard at decryption prompt" [Undecided,Confirmed] [08:33] Chainsaw, looks pretty clear, it sounds like a bug in initramfs-tools not putting that module in [08:34] apw: Yes, either putting it in the initramfs by default or building it into the kernel proper will solve it. [08:34] apw: We will make the change in the initial build, but I work for a company of shall we say.... power users. [08:34] apw: They want to install their own laptops, and then get confused and annoyed when it "don't work". [08:34] yeah, they tend to do that indeed :) [08:35] if initramfs-tools wasn't an utter mess this would be a trivial fix i am sure [09:39] hans109h_ (N,BFTL), it looks like the device probe has failed; details in your bug [11:02] Chainsaw (N,BFTL), I think i have fixed this in the packages I have pointed to in your bug, if you could test those and let us know on the bug pls. [11:36] Do you guys run any benchmarks to see how kernel updates affect performance? [11:39] there was a plan for that, and some work done, what sort of benchmarks were you looking at [11:41] I was actually looking for inspiration in terms of picking some good benchmarks :) [11:42] i guess it depends what you are trying to check on [11:43] My intent is to try to compare various cloud providers. Nothing more specific than that. [11:44] I imagine I want to test disk I/O, CPU speed, memory I/O and other stuff. [11:44] ...and if you guys already had a ready-to-go test suite, that'd just make my life easier. [11:45] stress is good for memory/cpu, xfstest is good for filesystems, but no i don't think we have anything specifici [11:48] No worries. Thanks. [11:53] soren, stress-ng in my ppa:white is also handy [11:54] cking: Cool, thanks! [11:55] soren, i've tried out fs tools such as bonnie++, tiobench but they all have their pros and cons [11:56] iozone too [11:57] cking: Phoronix has this huge test suite, but I get the impression that it's not very popular for some reason. [11:58] soren, one needs to run a specific test multiple times and calculate std.dev. correctly [14:20] I'd sure like to upload 3.15-rc3 but I'm gonna have to figure out my resume issue first. [14:40] apw, are you having any resume issues on your kit ? [14:41] rtg, with 3.15 or with 3.13 ? [14:41] though ... not so far is my answer either way [14:41] 3.15-rc3 [14:43] rtg, just did two s/r on my lappy her with 3.15-rc3 and nothing bad for me [14:43] grumble [14:51] ya, -rc3 works ok here too. for suspend/resume. [14:51] not tried to disk however. [15:19] smb: or rtg: (not sure who deals with xen) is grub1 still needed for xen in ubuntu? [15:19] or maybe apw ? ^ [15:20] xnox, it would be smb, but I think he's out today. [15:21] xnox, yeah it'd be smb, he is out till monday i think, and ... i don't personally know the answer, hallyn might [15:21] right, may day mayhem. [15:21] sorry i have no idea. zul might :) [15:30] xnox: it shouldnt [17:13] apw, ogasawara: www.decadent.org.uk/ben/tmp/linux-release-dates.svg - 3.17 might be really close. [17:14] rtg: yah, I was looking at http://phb-crystal-ball.org/ too [17:14] hmm, they differ by a month [17:15] oh, maybe not quite that much [17:15] rtg, well it depends where the labelled line is, is that jan1 or jan31 [17:15] rtg: I think what we've been saying that at the least it'll be 3.16 is the safe answer [17:15] rtg, otherwise 3.17 is oct 16 or so by the graph [17:15] which is release day [17:15] apw, yup, I agree [17:16] rtg: if we did 3.17, it would certainly go out the door with a later -rc [17:16] ogasawara, which we've done before [17:16] we normally like to get a .N or two on though [17:16] rtg: I guess it somewhat depends what we might be getting in 3.17 and if it's worth it [17:16] given it goes back into the lts, is there enough time before the point release to get it lts stable [17:17] I guess we won't know until we get there [17:17] we'd have another 3mo before it'd go back into trusty [17:17] which really means like 2mo to get it lts stable [17:18] yeah, so i guess we get .6 by then not toooo bad [18:05] arges: to be clear, you're asking me to build my own kernel with lockdep debugging and test that? [18:17] sconklin: ugh sorry [18:17] sconklin: i forgot to post the link [18:17] sconklin: ok updated