[00:01] <mgolisch> lucastt: maybe they dont use unity/gnome
[00:01] <lucastt> they do
[00:01] <presonic> i knew how to run update-manager, this will probably work but is different from the dialogs presented to me after the reboot
[00:01] <mgolisch> so the screenshot feature might use something else than gnome-screenshot
[00:01] <lucastt> i could follow the exact process you showed
[00:01] <k1l_> i dont know about the elementary setup. i would suggest a user relogin.  but i would suggest you ask in their forums or mailing lists if the channnel is not active
[00:01] <lucastt> hmm, ok
[00:02] <qin> lucastt: thats Ubuntu version: http://askubuntu.com/questions/191533/change-default-print-screen-save-folder
[00:03] <lucastt> nevermind, the problem was a typo on the path to the folder
[00:03] <lucastt> it works now
[00:03] <lucastt> thanks
[00:03] <mgolisch> okay
[00:03] <_2_ana> ?
[00:04] <_2_ana> heyy
[00:09] <clzielin> hello all.  trying to install ATI/AMD drivers for my video card (was wondering if anyone knows of a newer doc that follows the same suit as this : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Natty_Installation_Guide  .. but for the latest version
[00:09] <R0b0t1> Hello, I followed the Binary Drivers page for Nvidia yet I see no option to use them in jockey-gtk. What gives?
[00:13] <mgolisch> R0b0t1: binary drivers can be installed from the system preferneces-> Software thing
[00:13] <mgolisch> atleast in current ubuntu versions
[00:13] <R0b0t1> mgolisch: ?
[00:13] <R0b0t1> I installed gnome3, so none of the menus seem to translate
[00:13] <R0b0t1> got a name of the thing?
[00:14] <DrThunder> Can you play Combat Arms engine.exe on the ubuntu hyper native system?
[00:14] <mgolisch> Rory: software-properties-gtk
[00:14] <mgolisch> ah R0b0t1 i mean
[00:14] <dw1> R0b0t1: Applications -> System Tools -> Preferences -> Additional Drivers
[00:15] <ChibaPet> I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my ASUS Eee PC. It's a bit slow and it immediately digs lightly into swap, but Unity is a gorgeous interface, and it makes amazing use of my limited screen real estate.
[00:15] <ChibaPet> I wonder if there's a guide out there somewhere for tuning for limited-RAM situations.
[00:16] <mgolisch> ChibaPet: how much memory do you have?
[00:16] <ChibaPet> One gig, so it could be worse.
[00:16] <R0b0t1> dw1: That is jockey-gtk, and as I said, it doesn't list anything.
[00:16] <dw1> ChibaPet: Unity has more effects than, say, gnome-session-flashback -> No effect mode
[00:17] <Tex_Nick> .
[00:17] <mgolisch> R0b0t1: and software-properties-gtk?
[00:17] <dw1> R0b0t1: Oh just arrived sorry
[00:17] <R0b0t1> mgolisch: Nothing related to package management?
[00:17] <ChibaPet> dw1: But Unity is gorgeous. Is there a lower-effects-used knob by chance?
[00:17] <mgolisch> R0b0t1: it should have a tab named aditional driver or so
[00:17] <R0b0t1> mgolisch: Well, software sources, but not installing anything.
[00:17] <dw1> ChibaPet: you might check what is actually using the RAM
[00:18] <R0b0t1> mgolisch: Nope.
[00:18] <cphil> @tth fuck le disjoncteur
[00:18] <dw1> ChibaPet: open System Monitor and sort by memory
[00:19] <ChibaPet> Some background stuff at the top of the list right now: update-manager, evolution-calendar, unity-panel-ser(vice I assume)
[00:19] <ChibaPet> dw1: I have that now essentially, using top, sorting on resident.
[00:19] <mgolisch> R0b0t1: hm maybe thats only in unity or your using an old ubuntu version
[00:19] <R0b0t1> mgolisch: I'm using 12.04 with unity disabled
[00:20] <ChibaPet> Oh, the updater thing is an actual update it's offering me. I should let it do that and see where I am idling.
[00:20] <afflicto_> Anyone using LXDE? My bottom panel crashed. Can I start it from command line possibly?
[00:21] <ChibaPet> Ah, another question that comes up - it's not immediately obvious how to remap caps lock to control. Can I do it through the control panel somehow? I want to do things using provided tools rather than falling back to xmodmap, etc.
[00:23] <mgolisch> R0b0t1: hm they changed that in 12.10 so jockey-gtk should be right for 12.04
[00:23] <mgolisch> R0b0t1: does it give any errors?
[00:23] <R0b0t1> mgolisch: No. I can actually run stuff with optirun, but it doesn't appear to use the new drivers?
[00:23] <R0b0t1> Or maybe it is idk
[00:26] <mgolisch> R0b0t1: hm dunno, i  dont have any hybrid graphics laptops
[00:26] <R0b0t1> Ah well, thanks for the help
[00:26] <R0b0t1> I'm pretty sure it's installed right.
[00:27]  * R0b0t1 shrugs
[00:28] <ChibaPet> Ah, hm. Looks like there is no longer a mechanism in 14.04 unless you use the Gnome Tweak Tool. That's unfortunate.
[00:28] <ChibaPet> Not really much better than setting up .xmodmaprc.
[00:35] <alfonsojon> hey guys
[00:35] <alfonsojon> completely unrelated, but what do I do if a seller is blackmailing me on ebay?
[00:35] <ChibaPet> And the tweak tool is almost unusable given a graphical glitch. I guess it's time to get a Launchpad account so I can report bugs.
[00:35] <ChibaPet> alfonsojon: Contact the police?
[00:36] <alfonsojon> ChibaPet: I mean they want me to give positive feedback on something that broke on arrival or else they "will report me"
[00:36] <alfonsojon> at first they were threatening saying they would not give me a refund unless I changed it
[00:36] <ChibaPet> Oh, have them report you, and give appropriate feedback mentioning the blackmail.
[00:36] <alfonsojon> then I got my refund and made it neutral instead of negative
[00:37] <ChibaPet> Get your refund *and* give negative feedback. That's what the feedback system is for.
[00:38] <ChibaPet> Hm, Ubuntu ignores my rfkill switch.
[00:39] <jr_> hey all. I have an nvidia graphics card that ubuntu wont detect.It's saying I have some sandybridge mobile graphics thing...can anyone help me figure out/obtain the correct driver for my graphics card?
[00:39] <mgolisch> jr_:  hybrid graphics?
[00:40] <jr_> mgolisch: I don't understand what you mean
[00:41] <mgolisch> jr_: i was asking if your laptop has a hybrid graphics solution
[00:41] <jr_> mgolisch: I don't know - I don't think so
[00:41] <mgolisch> whats your laptop model?
[00:42] <jr_> mgolisch: U46W.205
[00:44] <abak> Hi everyone, since a few days, I have an error everytime duplicity is ran : http://pastebin.com/vxGqUW6G
[00:44] <abak> Does anyone ever see it ?
[00:45] <xangua> Hi, I have a problem with the default xfce player parole, I can't play a DVD with it (libdvcss2 installed) It shows an error in gstreamer: Could not read from resource. http://i.imgur.com/cMzqCyS.png  Thanks for your attention
[00:46] <mgolisch> jr_: looks like it uses nvidia optimus hybrid graphics
[00:47] <jr_> mgolisch: so why is mine using something else? I guess I installed the wrong drivers? How do I get the correct one?
[00:47] <R0b0t1> Hello, I followed the Binary Drivers page for Nvidia yet I see no option to use them in jockey-gtk. What gives?
[00:47] <mgolisch> jr_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[00:47] <jr_> mgolisch: thanks!
[00:49] <mgolisch> R0b0t1: whats your laptop model or is it a desktop?
[00:49] <ChibaPet> Hrm. rfkill is recognized, but it's not actually turning the hardware on and off, it's just impacting whether Network Manager has wifi enabled or not. Interesting.
[00:49] <R0b0t1> mgolisch: r500v. GeForce 630m.
[00:49] <R0b0t1> mgolisch: Like, everything "works" it's just I can't tell if the binary driver is being used
[00:50] <mgolisch> R0b0t1: id asume your laptop uses nvidia optimus too
[00:50] <R0b0t1> Yeah.
[00:50] <R0b0t1> Bumblebee "works"
[00:50] <R0b0t1> `optimus yes > /dev/null` turns it on and gets my computer to 80C pretty quickly
[00:51] <dw1> the fire means its working......
[00:51] <mgolisch> check your bumblebee config i think you need to specify which driver it uses
[00:51] <mgolisch> but then again i own no optimus laptop so no idea realy
[00:53] <R0b0t1> dw1: Issue is it invariably overheats
[00:54] <R0b0t1> nvidia-settings doesn't give me the warning about the driver being missing, so yeah
[00:54] <R0b0t1> guess it's the one being used
[00:56] <mgolisch> R0b0t1: whats your powermizer settings in nvidia-settings?
[00:56] <R0b0t1> No idea what that is
[00:57] <Bludot> I need help, I installed the correct catalyst driver and it is sorta working
[00:58] <Bludot> i get an "X" as a mouse and a black screen
[00:58] <oneof3> hello. can installing ia32-libs on a 64 bit system cause any issues?
[00:59] <mgolisch> it should not
[00:59] <oneof3> ty mgolisch
[00:59] <mgolisch> but the current ubuntus are multiarch i think
[00:59] <oneof3> what does that mean mgodzilla
[00:59] <oneof3> mgolisch,
[00:59] <endaras> Hey, does anyone know how to fix a problem where i cant change screen brightness in ubuntu?
[00:59] <endaras> tried googling but nothing i've found works
[01:00] <mgolisch> oneof3: it means the package manager has 32bit and 64bit versions of most library packages you can just install using apt
[01:00] <oneof3> ty
[01:00] <srock> ubuntu faq file
[01:01] <oneof3> should i remove one and keep the other regarding ALSA and Pulseaudio?
[01:02] <oneof3> just seems like a bunch of audio settings when i only need 1
[01:02] <aarobc> Is there something like autokey that actually works? unfortunately the dev has stopped supporting it :(
[01:02] <R0b0t1> mgolisch: Any other place to look and what it might affect?
[01:04] <nith1210> oneof3: no, the ALSA stuff is actually just a wrapper for PA now, removing it will stop some programs from working.
[01:05] <dysoco> So I bought this new USB headset and Ubuntu is apparently not recognizing it
[01:05] <dysoco> I've tried from Alsamixer and Pavucontrol but it doesn't recognize it, it works fine under Windows
[01:06] <nith1210> R0b0t1: In the "nvidia-settings" dialog, on hte left hand side under the "GPU" segment, there's one called "PowerMizer".
[01:06] <xangua> Hi according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parole/+bug/1098323 this should have been fixed on  parole - 0.6.1-0ubuntu1 (0.6.1-0ubuntu3 installed in trusty) but everytime I put a DVD and select parole to play it gstreamer says:  Could not read from resource http://i.imgur.com/cMzqCyS.png I have gstreamer-plugin-ugly and libdvdcss2 installed
[01:06] <mgolisch> yeah like i said check powermizer
[01:06] <R0b0t1> nith1210: Oddly, not for me.
[01:07] <unicornjedi> hello, I have ubuntu trusty tahr. Ever since I updated I wasn't able to play starcraft 2 again. I get an error that says DIRECTX cannot be initialized
[01:07] <endaras> Does anyone know how i could "map" a key combination to a terminal command?
[01:07] <mgolisch> R0b0t1: does it display the gpu at all?
[01:07] <mgolisch> R0b0t1: you might need to run nvidia-settings using optirun
[01:07] <R0b0t1> mgolisch: Ah, yeah. I did that.
[01:08] <mgolisch> hm dunno then
[01:08] <endaras> e.g. if i press Fn + F5 to run a specific predefined terminal command?
[01:08] <nith1210> endaras: Open the "Keyboard" settings, click on the second tab called "Shortcuts", then click the little "+".
[01:08] <R0b0t1> No, it displays more tabs than before, but that's just Application settings and configuration
[01:08] <unicornjedi> endaras, I believe you can do it through System Settings > keyboard > shortcuts > custom
[01:08] <nith1210> endaras: add the name and the command, click apply
[01:08] <nith1210> endaras: Then map a key to the new custom shortcut
[01:09] <ChibaPet> Alright. Everything's working now except for screen brightness.
[01:09] <endaras> ChibaPet you might be interested in this:
[01:09] <endaras> http://askubuntu.com/questions/104162/decrease-backlight-below-minimum
[01:09] <endaras> just found it for my own screen brightness issues
[01:09] <unicornjedi> hello, I have ubuntu trusty tahr. Ever since I updated I wasn't able to play starcraft 2 again. I get an error that says DIRECTX cannot be initialized
[01:10] <endaras> Is it possible to use the keyboard shortcut to create a dynamic command?
[01:10] <ChibaPet> endaras: Mm, I added that after finding it in the Eee PC wiki pages, but it seems not to have helped. The acpi_osi=Linux they recommended did manage to get my rfkill switch to work.
[01:10] <aarobc> Ugh. I'm very tempted to just fork it
[01:10] <ChibaPet> endaras: What do you want the command to do?
[01:10] <nith1210> unicornjedi: That's more of a wine issue, I'm not sure people here will be able to help.
[01:11] <endaras> I have a problem where the keys to change screen brightness doesnt work
[01:11] <unicornjedi> nith1210, thank you what is the wine channel?
[01:11] <endaras> so im using this command:
[01:11] <nith1210> unicornjedi: I'm not sure, sorry. Does anyone else know?
[01:11] <endaras> sudo su -c "echo 122825 >/sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness"
[01:11] <endaras> where the number in the middle changes the brightness
[01:12] <srock> driver booster for drivers iobit
[01:12] <ChibaPet> unicornjedi: There isn't a useful wine channel generally, but try #wine or #winehq or somesuch. However, I generally recommend building the latest development WINE from source. Not sure what Trusty Tahr ships, but vendor WINEs are generally subpar.
[01:12] <unicornjedi> nith1210, eww #wine is an invite only channel
[01:12] <ChibaPet> endaras: trying that
[01:12] <endaras> I'd like to create a shortcut that would get that number and run the command with that number + 10% or something
[01:12] <nith1210> unicornjedi: yeah, I noticed that.
[01:12] <endaras> ChibaPet you might need to change the directory if you're not using intel graphics
[01:12] <unicornjedi> endaras, download compizsettingsmanager
[01:12] <nith1210> unicornjedi: http://www.winehq.org/irc
[01:12] <unicornjedi> endaras, you can set hotkeys for adjusting screen brightness there
[01:13] <unicornjedi> endaras, i can help you with that if you have it installed
[01:13] <endaras> unicornjedi, the problem is ubuntu recognises the hotkeys
[01:13] <endaras> it displays the screen brightness change at the top but it doesn't actually change the brightness
[01:13] <endaras> not sure why
[01:13] <ChibaPet> endaras: Mm, not working here. I'll have to poke at it some more. Thank you for the suggestion.
[01:13] <ChibaPet> endaras: This same laptop responds when I run Debian on it, so I'm sure it's just a config I need to find.
[01:14] <unicornjedi> endaras, instead of adjusting backlight brightness, would just increasing the darkness be okay?
[01:14] <endaras> Well, as long as the amount of light being emitted by the screen decreases
[01:14] <endaras> 100% gives me headaches
[01:14] <unicornjedi> endaras, the backlight with still the same, but the images on the screen will just look darker
[01:15] <endaras> Ah, no
[01:15] <endaras> i do use the xrandr --brightness atm to change contrast
[01:15] <endaras> but it doesn't really help with the headaches
[01:16] <ChibaPet> Ah, I'm seeing a regression: http://askubuntu.com/questions/441579/asus-eee-pc-screen-brightness-problem
[01:16] <endaras> Chiba
[01:16] <unicornjedi> endaras, oh.. well the only thing left I could suggest is to look for a package on the software center where you can download some drivers specific for your laptop
[01:16] <endaras> check your /sys/class/backlight directory
[01:17] <endaras> if you have intel_backlight run "cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness"
[01:18] <endaras> if you have another vendor change intel_backlight to that vendor
[01:18] <unicornjedi> Im getting an error in the terminal whenever i run apt-get ----- no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[01:18] <ChibaPet> endaras: Mm, eeepc here, and it maintains a value, but it's not poking at value into the actual hardware.
[01:19] <endaras> unicornjedi ok thanks for the help
[01:19] <ChibaPet> I can observe the brightness file changing as I go through steps using function-brightness-up-or-down for instance.
[01:19] <unicornjedi> endaras, i tried.
[01:20] <ChibaPet> For kicks, I'm removing acpi_brightness=vendor, which I added concurrently with apci_osi=Linux
[01:20] <endaras> you did, thanks :)
[01:20] <nith1210> unicornjedi: From apt? I've never seen that one. Any chance you could pipe it to pastebinit?
[01:21] <unicornjedi> nith1210, nevermind i looked on some forums. It was Samba related. I ran sudo apt-get remove libpam-smbpass
[01:22] <unicornjedi> and now the problem is fixed
[01:22] <dysoco> So can anyone help me with my USB headset? it's shown in lsusb but it's not recognized as an audio interface
[01:22] <dysoco> that's weird, then it's a Samba bug
[01:22] <unicornjedi> dysoco, have you used pulse volume manager (pavu)?
[01:22] <srock> driver booster from iobit might get you a drver
[01:23] <dysoco> yes I'm trying pavucontrol but I can't find the USB headset
[01:23] <dysoco> driver in linux?
[01:23] <tsnyph> could someone tell me how to revert back to a previous version of firefox? Mine updated to 19.0 and i dislike it
[01:23] <mgolisch> unicornjedi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1257186/comments/26
[01:23] <ChibaPet> tsnyph: you don't want to, really - and you mean 29
[01:23] <endaras> Does anyone know if it's possible to set up a hotkey that runs a dynamic command?
[01:23] <endaras> I want this command to run : sudo su -c "echo 122825 >/sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness"
[01:23] <tsnyph> yes 29.0 and yes i do want to go back to a previous version
[01:23] <ChibaPet> endaras: have the hotkey run a script, and have the script do that
[01:23] <endaras> but to change the number based on what it is currently
[01:24] <endaras> yeah i thought i'd have to brush up on bash scripting
[01:24] <endaras> was just hoping i wouldnt
[01:24] <ChibaPet> tsnyph: You don't want to ignore security updates, really. And yeah, the changes are jarring, but not *terrible*.
[01:24] <tsnyph> is there a way to make it look like the older broswer again?
[01:24] <mgolisch> tsnyph: dislike the themes?
[01:24] <ChibaPet> endaras: You don't really need much more bash than what you already pasted in. chmod 0700 the script, and make sure it starts with "#!/bin/sh"
[01:24] <unicornjedi> mgolisch, thank you very much
[01:24] <mgolisch> heared other people ranting about that too
[01:25] <mgolisch> but yeah generaly id stay with the latest version
[01:25] <endaras> True
[01:25] <unicornjedi> tsnyph, yea it look good.... for an apple user
[01:25] <ChibaPet> tsnyph: I haven't seen a way, but it's only been out a day or so, so a mechanism might turn up if you keep searching. But I'm not sure.
[01:25] <ChibaPet> unicornjedi: It's actually cloning Chrome, not Safari.
[01:25] <tsnyph> i like how these people come out with new ideas and just force it on us. first youtube, then facebook, now firefox
[01:26] <N1TR0> hello
[01:26] <ChibaPet> tsnyph: Free software, in Firefox's case. You could arguably fork it.
[01:27] <aarobc> how would I cat an audio file into the sound card in ubuntu?
[01:27] <aarobc> or any file rather
[01:27] <does> What is the irc channel for Test Drive A Ubuntu ISO? I know that this is slightly off topic,but I would like to know. ;) Thanks!!
[01:28] <javi> h4
[01:28] <Beldar> does, What is a "Test Drive A Ubuntu ISO?"?
[01:28] <mgolisch> aarobc: what is it you want to do?
[01:28] <Guest47837> holaa
[01:29] <Guest47837> español¿
[01:29] <aarobc> mgolisch: dick around. Just curious if it was possible, wanted to try
[01:29] <Beldar> !es | Guest47837
[01:29] <does> Beldar: A program in UBC that I am trying to get some support on.
[01:29] <cfhowlett> !ot|does
[01:30] <nith1210> does: I think that is cfhowlett's way of saying this channel should work.
[01:30] <does> cfhowlett: I know that. ;) But thanks for the info. :D
[01:31] <nith1210> does: Ask away, if someone knows, they'll try.
[01:31] <aarobc> lol, you can with pacat
[01:31] <aarobc> just got it
[01:31] <nith1210> aarobc: will aplay do what you want? man aplay
[01:31] <does> nith1210: I did ask. ;)
[01:31] <nith1210> aarobc: ahh, well done
[01:32] <nith1210> does: sorry, I seem to have only seen your question where you asked for another channel.
[01:33] <does> nith1210: I think that all 1679 people saw it,but no one answers. ;)
[01:35] <daftykins> does: what is your ubuntu liveDVD/USB question?
[01:37] <does> daftykins: When try to run an iso through Test Drive,I see the bios screen,then the grub screen.Well,after that,There is a white cursor,that is not blinking,and it just sits there.This is all in the VM.
[01:38] <cfhowlett> does assuming this is a virtualbox vm, you should be running the 32 bit version.
[01:38] <daftykins> does: 'Test Drive' is a hypervisor?
[01:38] <does> I don't know anything about it,Sorry. ;)
[01:38] <mgolisch> no i think its a tool to run ubuntu development isos in kvm
[01:38] <does> I am using a 32bit iso.
[01:38] <mgolisch> or something
[01:39] <daftykins> does: is it a program on your computer, or?
[01:39] <daftykins> mgolisch: oh.
[01:39] <does> daftykins: Test Drive is a program.
[01:39] <OerHeks> daftykins, look here, i never read this myself before, it must be new !
[01:39] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Testdrive
[01:40] <OerHeks> TestDrive provides a simple mechanism for any Ubuntu user to download, test and provide feedback on the current Ubuntu release under development.
[01:40] <OerHeks> that would be 14.10
[01:40] <daftykins> OerHeks: thanks!
[01:41] <daftykins> does: is that accurate? is the ISO you booted a 14.10 build?
[01:41] <R0b0t1> mgolisch: AHA I see it
[01:42] <does> daftykins: no I have tried 12.04 and 14.04
[01:42] <ChibaPet> So, looks like the bug can be worked around. http://www.blueridgedebate.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1092
[01:43] <ShalokShalom> hi there
[01:43] <ShalokShalom> how to use the debian installer, please ?
[01:43] <cfhowlett> ShalokShalom ask the #debian channel - this ain't the place.
[01:43] <SchrodingersScat> !debootstrap | ShalokShalom
[01:44] <daftykins> does: what's your intention here, you're already in ubuntu and are testing other versions out... ?
[01:44] <ShalokShalom> i aim to create a .iso, that installs ubuntu with the debian installer
[01:44] <does> daftykins: exactly!!
[01:44] <ChibaPet> ...but it didn't work on this box. Alas. :P
[01:44] <OerHeks> !mini
[01:45] <ShalokShalom> ??
[01:45] <nith1210> ShalokShalom: I'm fairly certain debootstrap is already used in the ubuntu installation process.
[01:45] <daftykins> does: i think putting downloaded versions on a DVD or USB flash drive to test on the native hardware would make a lot more sense :) if that's not an option, give virtualbox a try instead :) or wait for someone with experience of Test Drive... though that may be rare if it's new
[01:46] <ShalokShalom> o.O
[01:46] <does> daftykins: I have used a flash drive,but I thought it would be neat to run it throught a vm.
[01:46] <ShalokShalom> i wish to replace ubiquity
[01:47] <ChibaPet> Or, maybe it does somewhat work - it doens't enable the keyboard shortcuts, but it works with the control panel settings. Good enough for me.
[01:47] <mgolisch> ShalokShalom: why?
[01:47] <daftykins> does: it'll only be slower with less good graphics support really
[01:47] <ShalokShalom> because its buggy
[01:48] <ShalokShalom> wikipedia means, that is possible: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian-Installer
[01:49] <does> daftykins: Then I am going to try virtualbox.
[01:50] <daftykins> does: (: enjoy
[01:50] <jcstarken> question what is wrong with this: sudo --remove etc\apt\source.list.d
[01:50] <daftykins> a lot.
[01:50] <daftykins> what are you trying to do?
[01:50] <ChibaPet> And here we go: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1311297
[01:51] <jcstarken> remove bad repositories
[01:51] <daftykins> jcstarken: custom ones you've added? "cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/" then "ls" and pick which ones you think should go
[01:51] <OerHeks> !ppa-purge
[01:52] <daftykins> jcstarken: then instead of delete, "sudo mv repoiwanttokill ~/"
[01:52] <daftykins> or preferably what OerHeks just said ^
[01:52] <jcstarken> ok thank you all
[01:54] <jcstarken> is'nt it better to learn the command lines?
[01:56] <SchrodingersScat> jcstarken: it can be nice, you can chain commands together using pipes, use variables, arrays, etc.
[01:56] <jcstarken> thank you
[01:57] <does> Thank you all for what you are doing,And keep up the good work!! ;)
[02:08] <aarobc> okay this is what I was going for. This is awesome. You have to change the end to pipe into pacat but other than that it just works http://kmkeen.com/awk-music/
[02:08] <onca> I wrote a python program that needs to bind to port 80, but I can only do that as root, how can I grant a user permission to bind to port 80?
[02:09] <userguy243> hi - how do I quit X on ubuntu livecd?
[02:09] <userguy243> it's really slow in this vm, I just want to try som ethings
[02:09] <ChibaPet> onca: sudo
[02:09] <reisio> userguy243: CTRL+ALT+F2
[02:10] <userguy243> great.  though it's still really slow.  any ideas why?  running a 32-bit version on 32-bit host in virtualbox
[02:11]  * jamesd guesses that our gui developers have too nice of hardware, real developers should be forced to have hardware that has 1/2 of the stated requirements for the system... then performance bugs may get fixed. 
[02:11] <reisio> userguy243: 'cause hardware virtualization is a huge waste of resources
[02:11] <jcstarken> ok what am I doing wrong sudo ppa-purge ppa:master-pdf-editor_ubuntu.list
[02:12] <xangua> jcstarken: that is not the PPA name for start
[02:12] <jcstarken> private-ppa.launchpad.net_commercial-ppa-uploaders_master-pdf-editor_ubuntu.list
[02:12] <xangua> I imagine the name is ppa:master-pdf-editor , remember the PPA name is the same when you added it with add-apt-repository ppa-name
[02:13] <reisio> want to edit a pdf?
[02:13] <jcstarken> either way I do it tells me could not find package
[02:13] <srock> ubuntu faq
[02:13] <userguy244> sorry, booted for some reason
[02:13] <userguy244> reisio - maybe hardware virtualization is a waste of resources but basically I just wanted to try something in ubuntu :)
[02:13] <userguy244> I'm trying with giving it more ram
[02:14] <reisio> userguy244: be that as it may :p
[02:15] <mgolisch> do you use hardware virtualisation?
[02:15] <mgolisch> if not it will be dog slow
[02:15] <userguy244> me?  i just used the default settings on virtualbox
[02:15] <userguy244> by default it appears acceleration was on....
[02:15] <userguy244> mgolisch - do you have more specific settings for me to check?
[02:15] <reisio> mgolisch: ...
[02:16] <mgolisch> but i think it will warn you if it cant enable hardware virtualisation
[02:16] <userguy244> ok
[02:16] <userguy244> also, do you think I should set it to use two processors?
[02:17] <userguy244> or is 1 better if it's going to be from within virtualbox
[02:17] <mgolisch> no dont do that
[02:17] <mgolisch> it will just add additional overhead
[02:17] <userguy244> OK
[02:22] <endaras> Im back if anyone remembers me with my screen brightness problem
[02:23] <endaras> I've created 2 bash scripts to decrease/increase screen brightness because ubuntu can't do it normally for some reason
[02:23] <endaras> I've never had to execute a script from a keyboard shortcut before so i'm not sure why it's not working when i set the hotkey
[02:24] <endaras> could it be because the script executes a command using sudo?
[02:25] <jcstarken> ok if you dont just list the name and you cant list the whole name than how can you get rid or the dang ppa's
[02:25] <mgolisch> endaras: yeah might be
[02:26] <mgolisch> endaras: unless you configured sudo in a way that would allow your user to run those commands without beeing prompted for a password
[02:27] <endaras> I havn't configured sudo at all
[02:28] <endaras> Would that be how to fix it then?
[02:28] <mgolisch> probably
[02:28] <mgolisch> does it run your scripts at all?
[02:28] <endaras> the scripts work in terminal but do prompt for a password
[02:28] <endaras> the keyboard shortcuts don't run
[02:28] <mgolisch> thats mostlikely the problem then
[02:29] <endaras> How would you configure it?
[02:29] <endaras> im not extremely experienced with linux and a bit wary of messing around with sudo
[02:29] <phuh> How many characters of a hostname is considered too long?
[02:30] <avis> i submitted a tip but it did not go through
[02:30] <krabador> !bot
[02:31] <jamesd> phuh: POSIX standard says 255 is the limit but not all OSes are fully POSIX compliant
[02:34] <phuh> thanks jamesd
[02:34] <reisio> phuh: certainly 80
[02:35] <reisio> more realistically, um, 10?
[02:36] <endaras> Does anyone know how i can run a bash script that uses sudo outside of the terminal?
[02:36] <jcstarken> I have no clue what I am doing wrong I am putting it in just as it is in the source.list.d folder
[02:36] <domovoi> Hi , so i was trying to install " The Dark Mod" and i am missing 	libpng12.so.0 and libcurl.so.4    ,    i have installed ,,, but   libcurl3 is already the newest version. libpng12-0 is already the newest version.   , so i dont know what to do now.
[02:36] <domovoi> it still says it is missing ,   do i need some kind of symlink?
[02:37] <mgolisch> endaras: hm youd edit the /etc/sudoers file preferably using visudo and add a line like ->                   username ALL=NOPASSWD: command1 , command2
[02:37] <mgolisch> where command1 and command2 would be the full path to the executable you run using sudo in your script
[02:38] <mgolisch> and username is your username
[02:39] <mgolisch> domovoi: 32bit app maybe?
[02:40] <domovoi> mgolisch: yes , it actually needs ia32 , but that is not in ubuntu anymore
[02:41] <mgolisch> domovoi: yeah because current ubuntu releases are multiarch, install the 32bit version of the required libraries using apt-get
[02:41] <BananasBeYellow> hello?
[02:41] <cfhowlett> BananasBeYellow ask you ubuntu questions
[02:41] <domovoi> mgolisch: thanks do you know the 32 bit versions of these (libpng12.so.0 and libcurl.so.4 )   ,  that is all it says i am missing when i run ldd
[02:42] <BananasBeYellow> I am having serious problems with my ubuntu remix by matthew moore
[02:43] <cfhowlett> BananasBeYellow contact matthew.  his remix.  his problem.  his support.
[02:43] <domovoi> mgolisch: I thought it was inside of libcurl3 and libping12-0  ,  i installed both of those already
[02:44] <BananasBeYellow> I downloaded it via usb and installed it to my harddrive and since tehn a account named ubuntu with a password that I don't know but boot into. I cannot log out nor can I run as administrator tofully customize it bevasuse I don't know the password
[02:44] <cfhowlett> BananasBeYellow it's a custom remix.  it is NOT support here.  contact matthew for support.
[02:44] <BananasBeYellow> ok thanks anyways
[02:45] <jcstarken> thank you for the help
[02:45] <mgolisch> domovoi: youd install libcurl3:i386 and so on
[02:46] <domovoi> thank you so much moglisch
[02:50] <dw1> /help
[02:58] <nam_> I have an issue with my ethernet controller. After moving a hard disk over to a new box, running ifconfig doesn't show eth0 anymore. What could be the cause?
[03:03] <chris__> hello all, wanting to dual boot windows w ubuntu 14.04.  (running 14.04 atm) is there any easy way of doing this?  been looking at documentation and some of it is all over the place
[03:04] <reisio> chris__: yeah
[03:04] <reisio> chris__: you got any free paritition space?
[03:04] <reisio> 1min
[03:05] <ubuntu14> i want to setup ubuntu vps using cpanel where can i find the detail procedure?
[03:06] <nam_> I have an ethernet config issue. After moving my hard disk to a new machine (of same hardware configuration), ifconfig doesn't show eth0. What could cause this?
[03:10] <daftykins> nam_: persistent net rules has locked out eth0 due to the change in MAC, if you run "sudo updatedb" followed by "locate persistent" it'll show you were that file is, edit it and remove the reference to your old/new NIC and then reboot and it'll be back
[03:10] <daftykins> s/were/where/
[03:11] <daftykins> nam_: oh it appears to be /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[03:18] <srock> fileing rydu old ip
[03:27] <hikaruBG> Hi all
[03:27] <hikaruBG> Thank you for your help (Whoever helped me) to solve the freezing issue with my Desktop Ubuntu 14.04
[03:27] <hikaruBG> runs like a dream now!
[03:29] <Jonii> Hello, I need help installing Ubuntu 14.4
[03:29] <vfilho> victomina, hi
[03:29] <Jonii> I had 12.04 on my computer alongside Windows XP. However, for whatever reason 12.04 did not work, so I abandoned the system and as I never needed the space, I just left it there
[03:30] <victomina> Hi VFilho
[03:30] <Jonii> Now, I'd be willing to try again with 14.04. However, the installation offers to delete 12.04, as it should, but it warns me that it will delete all of the disk while doing so
[03:30] <holstein> !install | Jonii
[03:31] <Jonii> not only the section 12.04 is at, but also my Windows
[03:31] <holstein> Jonii: you can manually partition as you please
[03:31] <Jonii> I don't understand the partition tool contained within
[03:32] <Jonii> And since I really don't want to delete the only operating system that I know works for sure, I really want to know how to guarantee I don't delete my Windows while trying to install this OS
[03:32] <JCM83> what's the ubuntu equivalent of winamp? Something to organize and play my music.
[03:33] <Jonii> If it turns out ubuntu works I wouldn't mind Windows going away, but since 12.04 didn't work, there's a decent chance this won't work either
[03:33] <reisio> JCM83: audacious
[03:33] <holstein> Jonii: you can use gparted from a live CD to clear our what you like.. the onld 12.04 installation for example
[03:33] <R0b0t1> Hi where is a repo that has a build of ssh which supports ed25519/curve25519?
[03:33] <Jonii> holstein: and as a result, the installation program offers to only reside in the hole left by gparted?
[03:33] <JCM83> thanks reisio
[03:34] <hikaruBG> Jonii, what is your exact partition configuration.
[03:34] <reisio> JCM83: it probably comes with something else, though, that you might also like
[03:34] <holstein> Jonii: or, you manually do what you like
[03:34] <zoidfarb> JCM83: Amarok is pretty popular too
[03:34] <reisio> JCM83: like rhythmbox or something
[03:34] <JCM83> rhythmbox isn't working for me. I try to open it, it "closed with an unexpected error."
[03:34] <JCM83> I've been having some stuff broken since the update to 14.04. It keeps freezing up at weird times too.
[03:34] <cknox> Jonii: do you currently boot straight to windows, or do you get a prompt to choose your OS?
[03:34] <Jonii> hikaruBG: some hidden partitions that somehow relate to windows or ubuntu that I don't understand. Then there are Windows C, D and Ubuntu, labeled sda1, sda2 and sda5 I think
[03:35] <zoidfarb> So I'm trying to re-install bcmwl-kernel-source, but when I do, I get this error: "Building only for 3.11.0-15-generic / Building for architecture x86_64 /Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed. /modprobe: FATAL: Module wl not found." But what's weird is I AM running 3.11.0-15! $ uname -r gives "3.11.0-15-generic"
[03:35] <Jonii> With random smaller partitions being sda4, sda5, sda6 and sda7
[03:35] <Jonii> cknox, prompt to choose my os
[03:35] <Jonii> Ubuntu 12.04 can be booted into. It just crashes roughly 2min after desktop becomes visible
[03:36] <cknox> so you don't want to use gparted to nuke partitions unless you fix the mbr for windows...
[03:36] <Jonii> cknox: that seems likely
[03:36] <cknox> is there a failsafe option you could try to boot to?
[03:36] <Jonii> cknox, outside Windows?
[03:36] <hikaruBG> Jonii, hit me on PM
[03:36] <cknox> if it allows you in, you may be able to do the upgrade from the disc
[03:37] <hikaruBG> I will help you out
[03:37] <JCM83> jonii that time response is interesting. You've got either a chron job misfiring or a problem with memory use.
[03:37] <cknox> Jonii: sometimes there's an option to boot ubuntu or ubuntu failsafe
[03:38] <Jonii> JCM83: it's not consistent. My vague recollection was that I deduced it had something to do with my GPU(graphics were wonky with some UI elements being replaced with error text)
[03:38] <JCM83> Jonii: Interesting.
[03:38] <JCM83> If the time relationship is not consistent that makes me think there's a use condition you could identify.
[03:39] <Jonii> It might be memory related. I think it crashed quicker if I tried opening programs
[03:39] <JCM83> Did you have any reason to believe your memory hardware might have been malfunctioning?
[03:40] <Jonii> But yeah, I'm not really into solving that problem. It doesn't work, I'm cool with that, now I want to try 14.04 instead
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:47] <greeter> morning lotuspsychje
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> greeter: hello mate
[03:48] <greeter> what's up?
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> greeter: no specific issue today :p
[03:49] <SymBiioTE> Hey
[03:50] <greeter> ah that's always good news
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> For all users that are interested in ubuntu on a tablet, i recently installed ubuntu-touch on a nexus7 2013 wifi and its looking nice already, join #ubuntu-touch for more details
[03:52] <greeter> wish i could afford to try it
[03:53] <SymBiioTE> anyone here know how to use a SDR with ubuntu
[03:53] <SymBiioTE> ?
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> SymBiioTE: whats sdr
[03:54] <SymBiioTE> software defined radio
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> !info quisk | SymBiioTE
[03:55] <vfilho> Defender1, hi
[03:55] <Pici> SymBiioTE: there are a bunch of packages returned for apt-cache search sdr, a number of them look like they might do what you want.
[03:55] <SymBiioTE> kool ill check it out
[03:55] <hikaruBG> Hmm - there is no Mysql-Workbench 6.1.4 deb package for Ubuntu 14.04 and the ones for 13.10 and 12.04 have conflict version of the dependencies.
[03:55] <hikaruBG> Very annoying!
[03:56] <vfilho> Defender1, welcome to #ubuntu
[03:57] <srock> shoutcast radio
[03:57] <Defender1> vfilho, thank you. you is beatyfull
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> hikaruBG: http://askubuntu.com/questions/450405/installing-mysql-workbench-on-ubuntu-14-04
[03:57] <vfilho> Defender1, ¬¬
[03:58] <Defender1> vfilho, gogogo programing
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> hikaruBG: the last answer seems to have a workaround
[04:00] <hikaruBG> lotuspsychje, I have read that. I have Mysql-server 5.6 installed, no way to swing it. Have to wait until Oracle guys release Workbench for the new Ubuntu Distribution i guess and work with other tools until they do
[04:00] <owh> hikaruBG: You could create a virtual machine with an older version of Ubuntu and install the appropriate workbench onto that.
[04:01] <hikaruBG> That could be a solution, thank you, owh
[04:02] <hikaruBG> owh, an immediate question: which VM is better? VirtualBox or VMWare?
[04:04] <owh> hikaruBG: That is an unanswerable question. I use VMware, others use VirtualBox, others use xen and kvm. It depends entirely on your environment. You could even fire up a cloud instance on something like AWS and run it there for cents in the dollar. As I said, it's an unanswerable question.
[04:05] <hikaruBG> qwh thanks! :)
[04:05] <hikaruBG> Diving into VirtualBox
[04:05] <hikaruBG> :)
[04:07] <james0r> when my laptop reaches critical (5%) it slows down to a crawl. i get that this is a power saving feature but i'd like to disable it. can't figure out what's responsible for this action though.
[04:07] <darkpassenger> hi all, does wubi still exist ?
[04:07] <james0r> using xubuntu
[04:07] <holstein> !wubi
[04:08] <owh> james0r: Critical what?
[04:08] <darkpassenger> thx
[04:09] <james0r> owh, a critically low level. i'm using the term xubuntu gives me in the OSD
[04:09] <Yelu> james0r, you mean the battery
[04:09] <james0r> Yelu, whoops left out the most important part. yep the battery
[04:10] <owh> james0r: It's likely something in your BIOS.
[04:10] <james0r> i know i can change what is considered critical in power management but no matter what i change it always happens when battery reaches 5%
[04:10] <james0r> owh, ahh. never thought to check that. i'll give it a look.
[04:11] <hikaruBG> Aw, snap! Oracle VirtualBox also don't have a distribution DEB for 14.04
[04:11] <hikaruBG> excellent :(
[04:12] <holstein> !virtualbox
[04:12] <holstein> hikaruBG: you dont need to get it that way
[04:13] <hikaruBG> holstein, please do tell
[04:13] <hikaruBG> :)
[04:13] <rww> !info mysql-workbench
[04:13] <rww> !info virtualbox
[04:14] <holstein> hikaruBG: just install it however you install packages.. software center, synaptic, or "sudo apt-get install virtualbox"
[04:14] <hikaruBG> I did try that - it came back with an error...
[04:14] <holstein> hikaruBG: you can read through the link i had the bot give you
[04:14] <holstein> hikaruBG: ok.. use your words to describe the error
[04:14] <hikaruBG> OK - I will do so, thanks
[04:15] <holstein> hikaruBG: that is the way to install it.. any other way is going to be more challenging...
[04:15] <Yelu> holstein, hikaruBG, there is no 14.10 deb https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[04:15] <holstein> Yelu: i didnt mean to imply there was
[04:15] <Yelu> hikaruBG, ok, maybe saucy will do
[04:16] <holstein> Yelu: im intending to state that its in the default repos for 14.04, and no deb is needed
[04:16] <holstein> Yelu: hikaruBG is not on 14.10
[04:16] <Yelu> holstein, ok, may bad
[04:16] <rww> hikaruBG: Is there something in MySQL Workbench 6.1.4 that isn't in 6.0.8 that you need?
[04:16] <holstein> Yelu: no worries.. help us keep is straight :)
[04:17] <Yelu> holstein, will do ;-)
[04:17] <hikaruBG> rww, not particular. Are you saying I can install 6.0.8 with no issues on 14.04?
[04:17] <rww> hikaruBG: It's in the repositories...
[04:18] <hikaruBG> won't go with the versions of mysql-server I have
[04:18] <rww> certain versions of MySQL Workbench only work with certain versions of MySQL Server? That's... silly of it.
[04:19] <rww> hikaruBG: you've tried and it doesn't work?
[04:20] <rww> oh. I see why.
[04:21] <rww> you're using non-official packaging of mysql-server, so you're hitting version mismatches with in-repository packages. have fun with that, I don't do out-of-repo support.
[04:21] <philena> does anyone know if the Java/Chromium/aura/noplugin issue getting fixed? or a workaround besides firefox?
[04:23] <hikaruBG> yes, rww. It won't work for me...
[04:23] <rww> yes, I just said why
[04:23] <holstein> hikaruBG: sure.. thats why, though... you are breaking the package system with out of repo packages
[04:24] <rww> although, hrm.
[04:25] <hikaruBG> rww - the native ubuntu 14.04 packages offers you to install musql-server mysql-server-5.5 and mysql-server-5.6 (same for client)
[04:25] <hikaruBG> I have triwd with every single one
[04:25] <hikaruBG> and still won't install
[04:25] <holstein> hikaruBG: vitrualbox?
[04:26] <rww> hikaruBG: yeah, never mind me, I just dug deeper and discovered the specialness of Ubuntu's mysql packaging
[04:26]  * rww goes back to his hole
[04:26] <holstein> hikaruBG: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[04:26] <holstein> !paste | hikaruBG
[04:27] <beltorak> hi all; has anyone tried to use an updated xscreensaver (specifically 5.22)? The version reported by my system seems to indicate 5.15
[04:27] <larsemil> so. usb-creator fails for me(both kde and gtk version).
[04:27] <larsemil> how do i dd the iso?
[04:27] <beltorak> or, alternately, what i really want is for xscreensaver to honor pam restrictions (that patch was added to xscreensaver 5.22)
[04:28] <holstein> larsemil: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-a-iso-to-a-usb-device
[04:29] <larsemil> holstein: tried that. no luck
[04:30] <holstein> larsemil: thats how its done.. pastebin your errors
[04:30] <larsemil> holstein: i get no errors. but it does not boot from stick
[04:30] <holstein> larsemil: it may be that the stick is bad
[04:30] <holstein> or the machine doest boot USB..
[04:30] <larsemil> i have booted several times from usb on the machine
[04:30] <owh> larsemil: Did you set the boot order in your BIOS?
[04:31] <larsemil> and the stick is new
[04:31] <nrdb01> hi .... I was trying to install webmin ... but it needs libnet-ssleay-perl ... but it won't install ... what am I meant to install instead?
[04:31] <larsemil> and yes of course i set boot order.
[04:31] <holstein> larsemil: new doesnt mean its not bad..
[04:31] <holstein> larsemil:  i have had quite a few out of the box bad USB sticks
[04:32] <hikaruBG> holstein, thanks - that worked. I don't know why i have had problems before ...
[04:32] <hikaruBG> Thanks though! :)
[04:33] <owh> larsemil: Did you do an md5 check?
[04:33] <larsemil> owh: on the iso? yep
[04:33] <owh> larsemil: No, on the USB stick.
[04:51] <FreewheelinFrank> applications are in what folder?
[04:53] <aarobc> Well that's one thing that' s bugged my about linux. In OSX all the apps are in a directory called apps and all self contained. with linux they're spread out all over the place
[04:53] <owh> FreewheelinFrank: There is no one folder. Different parts of different applications are stored in special areas around the system. What are you trying to do?
[04:53] <Radon_3> hi everyone, I have a very frustrating problem and I don't know how to solve, is anyone willing to help me?
[04:53] <owh> Radon_3: Describe the problem.
[04:53] <Radon_3> thanks
[04:54] <Radon_3> here it goes
The executables are located in the /usr/bin folder
[04:54] <owh> FreewheelinFrank: Yes, but an executable is not sufficient. Some applications only use an executable, but most need libraries and configuration files.
well when i get a popup asking me what software to open the file with i need to find the executable filename..
[04:55] <owh> aarobc: Under OS X applications do exactly the same as under Linux. They install their stuff in all manner of places, including inside the Libraries folder. Just because you cannot see it, doesn't mean it isn't there.
[04:56] <owh> FreewheelinFrank: Well, normally you should be able to select the application from the list of programmes in that dialog.
[04:57] <ChibaPet> aarobc: That's a fascinating perspective. I tend to see it as being exactly the opposite.
[04:57] <aarobc> owh: you sure? the apps are just a directory with ".app" appended to the file name
[04:57] <owh> FreewheelinFrank: That's assuming that you installed the applications using apt or synaptic.
[04:57] <ChibaPet> aarobc: How about application-installed frameworks? You know where they go, right?
[04:58] <owh> aarobc: The app is implemented like that, yes. But the app tends to install stuff before it runs. Just because you can drop an app into the bin and "uninstall" it, doesn't mean that this removes all traces of the app.
[04:58] <ChibaPet> Google won't help you!
[04:58] <Zipper2014> Greetings. I am currently trying to get Ubuntu 14.04 to work on my Lenovo IdeaCentre K410 Desktop PC. However, after I install the OS, I get an error saying "Erro 1962: No operating system found". This is the third time I have installed it and the third time getting this message.
[04:58] <aarobc> ChibaPet: on OSX? that's a different case, typically you're not going to be messing as much with frameworks anyway.
[04:59] <owh> Zipper2014: During the installation, what are you doing at the final dialog when it asks about boot loaders?
[04:59] <Radon_3> A few month back I bought this new PC, and I installed win7 on one partition of it. then I immediately Installed ubuntu on another drive of the same HD, the problem from then was that I could not get ubuntu to comeup. Now then I tried adding an 'Ubuntu' option using easybcd to win7 boot menu but again I couldn't get ubuntu to load. Today I made my
[04:59] <Radon_3> USB stick bootable wit Ubuntu live amd 64 12.04 LTS version of ubuntu, and this time I chose "install ubuntu alongside windows' hoping that ubuntu will repalce the irretating win7 boot menu for me and install grub instead so I could login both to windows and ubuntu. Now the problem is that after the nstallation was over, I didn't get grub, and stil
[04:59] <Radon_3> l win7 boot menu with a dummy ubuntu option, now when I press Enter on Ubuntu in the boot menu. All I get is: Initializing Variable Space...; Starting Cmain()... and then I get GRub4dos screen
[04:59] <Radon_3> I really need help people
[04:59] <ChibaPet> aarobc: It's not different. It's something that comes with a variety of applications. MacOS X is inherently messy.
hm yes i get a dialog box to choose an application but  the choose button opens a file manager window, not a list of applications. and darned it if my usr/bin folder is empty. i want to open a browser window! am using firefox...
[04:59] <Zipper2014> After I restart the PC after the sucessful install, I go into the bios and change it from USB to the HD.
[05:00] <aarobc> Typically I wouldn't care, but when you're compiling and installing a piece  of software, it's a huge pain to then remove it. If it's just in a directory, then you just nuke the directory
[05:00] <ChibaPet> aarobc: Are you for some reason eschewing package managers?
[05:00] <Beldar> !bootinfo | Radon_3 Pastebin the results of this script.
[05:01] <aarobc> ChibaPet: yeah, but half the time the repo is outdated anyway
[05:01] <Zipper2014> WHo ubottu?
[05:01] <ChibaPet> aarobc: For hand-built software, the common practise is to use Stow. Equally clean and contained.
[05:02] <ChibaPet> aarobc: MacOS is the messiest system I've ever used. I just think it's amusing you're glossing over the mess and calling it orderly. :P
[05:02] <Radon_3> ok, wait, I will join you guys from ubuntu live
[05:02] <Radon_3> see you in a bit
[05:02] <owh> FreewheelinFrank: Step back seven steps. What are you trying to actually do?
[05:03] <aarobc> ChibaPet: I've never used osx extensively, so I'm not as familiar with how it's set up. I was just aware of how they have their apps.
[05:03] <ChibaPet> aarobc: I've used it extensively. I'm using it now, and I've developed for it.
[05:03] <owh> aarobc: That was a given once you told us that it was different to Linux :-)
[05:03] <ChibaPet> aarobc: I've also used various Unixes extensively, and developed for them, and I'd take Unixy package management any day.
[05:04] <aarobc> owh: it is different lol. it's bsd
[05:04] <Zipper2014> I downloaded the http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/, but I am not sure what I am looking at.
[05:04]  * owh nods
[05:04] <Beldar> Zipper2014, It was not directed at you.
[05:04] <Zipper2014> oh ok.
[05:04] <ChibaPet> aarobc: BSD package management is very nearly as horrible as Mac OS X, but for other reasons.
[05:05] <owh> Zipper2014: Again, what did you select during the installation when it asked you about booting?
i have a hyperlink in an email. i click it and opens this dialogue box. I guess its a file and maybe it should open up a file manager window?file:///home/frank/Documents/Work/OGMAGeographic%20Data%20Discovery%20Service.html
[05:07] <owh> FreewheelinFrank: The link is pointing at a file on your local machine. If it's actually there, you can open it from within Firefox. The Firefox binary is at: `which firefox` on your computer. So, open up a Terminal, type in: "which firefox" and point the dialog at that location. (Don't enter the quotes.)
[05:07] <alan_47> is it okay to ask questions regarding lubuntu here? lubuntu channel has tumbleweeds rolling around :)
[05:08] <owh> alan_47: If we all start laughing, just laugh along. Otherwise try your luck and we might be able to assist.
[05:08] <RWOverdijk> What's "release-upgrade-motd" and why is it being mean to my server?
[05:08] <alan_47> owh: :) ok
 Thanks that worked
[05:09] <alan_47> I installed lubuntu from liveUSB, however, it won't boot from disk, the grub menu shows but after that some green and pink dots appear on screen, i've tried nomodeset and blacklist nouvea, nvidia gtx560 here
[05:09] <alan_47> blacklisting nouvea makes the lubuntu logo appear but after that it freezes on black screen
[05:09] <owh> RWOverdijk: Did you pay the troll fee?
[05:09] <RWOverdijk> owh, what?
[05:10] <alan_47> it just works from liveusb though :(
nice command
[05:10] <owh> RWOverdijk: You told us it was being mean. I thought you were making fun. I replied in a fun way. If you have an actual question, ask it and we'll see if we can help.
[05:11] <RWOverdijk> owh, I did maked a funny. But I meant it was consuming 100% cpu.
[05:11] <srock> troll fees are up this year
[05:11] <RWOverdijk> So I changed /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=never
[05:11] <owh> srock: Yup.
[05:12] <RWOverdijk> And changed /etc/cron.weekly/update-notifier-common where I commented out #/usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-motd
howver there is no firefox folder in my usr/bin
[05:12] <Zipper2014> owh When I booted the Live OS, I clicked on install the OS. However, it would never work that way. So I had to use the Live OS and then install it that way. Now, after I installed the OS, I rebooted and went into bios to boot from the HD.
[05:12] <RWOverdijk> I know what it _does_. I just don't get why it takes up 100% cpu.
[05:12] <Zipper2014> However, it gave me an error afterwards.
[05:13] <owh> RWOverdijk: Is it blocking on user input?
[05:13] <owh> Zipper2014: What errror?
[05:13] <RWOverdijk> owh, update-manager/release-upgrades? I don't think so. I never ran it. It's on by default (ubuntu server)
[05:14] <Zipper2014> owh I got the following error, "Error 1962: No Operating System Found."
[05:15] <RWOverdijk> owh, http://askubuntu.com/questions/322343/check-new-release-process-eating-up-resources-on-ubuntu-server-13-04 that's my problem.
[05:15] <owh> Zipper2014: That's a Micro$oft error. That indicates that the bootloader isn't installed by Ubuntu. I'm unfamiliar how you point their bootloader at Ubuntu.
[05:16] <owh> RWOverdijk: Interesting. Did you lodge a bug report?
[05:16] <Zipper2014> owh: I have nothing, but ubuntu installed. No other OS is on the computer. It was windows 7, but that was completely removed.
[05:17] <owh> FreewheelinFrank: There is no firefox folder, it's an executable file. On my machine it's at: /usr/bin/firefox
[05:17] <mozzarella> guys help
[05:17] <RWOverdijk> owh, I didn't. I figured someone else would've done it before me. That issue is almost a year old so I doubt I'd be the first to report it.
[05:17] <mozzarella> I'm trying to share a folder with samba… on ubuntu
[05:17] <mozzarella> doesn't work on the other side
so the which firefox command just says where the executable might be?
[05:17] <mozzarella> it says access denied
[05:18] <owh> Zipper2014: Clearly it is not completely gone. I normally zero out the first 1k of the drive before installing Ubuntu. The way I do it is to fire up the Live CD, open up a terminal, use the dd command to zero the beginning of the drive, then install.
[05:18] <Zipper2014> mozzarella: You may have to allow the connection from each ip address in your firewall rules.
[05:18] <mozzarella> Zipper2014: does ubuntu even have a firewall?
[05:18] <Zipper2014> owh: How do I do this?
[05:19] <Zipper2014> mozzarella: Yes. However, I am not sure about where Ubuntu may have theres at.
[05:19] <owh> RWOverdijk: In my experience if there is a bug report, others will have tried work-arounds. If not you're special 0:-)
[05:20] <pack^> mozzarella: just type "sudo ufw enable" in a terminal
[05:20] <mozzarella> pack^: do you mean disable?
[05:20] <owh> Zipper2014: If your drive has nothing important on it and you are happy to erase it all, use this command: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[05:20] <owh> Zipper2014: This is a DANGEROUS command.
[05:20] <Zipper2014> mozzarella: http://tinyurl.com/mgcj3k6
[05:21] <pack^> mozzarella: if you want to turn it off then yes
[05:21] <Jonii> Hello. Some very friendly chap from this channel helped me to install ubuntu 14.04 on my computer
[05:21] <owh> Zipper2014: Make sure that /dev/hda is in fact your drive.
[05:21] <Jonii> Now, unfortunately this help meant that my Windows is now unaccessible
no that was stupid. so there is more than 1 usr/bin, i found it, right under system, not my profile name
[05:21] <owh> Zipper2014: If you have more than one drive in your machine, be very careful.
[05:21] <Jonii> Is there any easy, neat way to make Windows accessible again?
[05:21] <mozzarella> doesn't change anything
[05:21] <Zipper2014> owh: I am ok ditching whatever is left. I have no other drives on the PC.
[05:22] <mozzarella> so it is NOT the firewall
[05:22] <Zipper2014> owh: Do I do these commands on the Live OS?
[05:22] <Jonii> Basically what happened was that the installation process seemingly destroyed all boot loaders on my computer. I then installed and ran a program that helped restore my bootloader, but it only did so for Linux
[05:22] <RWOverdijk> owh, Ah well. Thanks anyway.
[05:22] <owh> Zipper2014: The command works on the LiveCD, you'll need to use "sudo".
[05:22] <Zipper2014> mozzarella: It could be.
[05:22] <Jonii> Installed and ran using live CD ubuntu
[05:22] <owh> RWOverdijk: Giving up so quickly?
[05:22] <mozzarella> Zipper2014: it's not
[05:22] <Jonii> But this program did not restore my Windows
[05:23] <Jonii> And now that I have Linux set up, I'd want to revisit Windows, just to make sure it's alright.
[05:23] <RWOverdijk> owh, Well, no. Just giving up for now because I have work to do. It's not acting up currently so I have some time.
[05:23] <Jonii> I don't think I'm going back, but even encouraging words that tell me that there is a way to return to Windows if things somehow turn up sour, would help me sleep at night
[05:23] <owh> RWOverdijk: I'd recommend that you head to #ubuntu-server and ask there.
[05:23] <Zipper2014> owh: If you do not mind, can you write the string out where I can type it? I am using my other pc to use this chat due to not getting it to work on the one not working.
[05:23] <Jonii> Of course, any help that would directly help me to restore Windows would be even better
[05:24] <mozzarella> I'm trying to share a folder with samba on ubuntu, but it doesn't work
[05:24] <mozzarella> help please
[05:24] <owh> Zipper2014: I do not understand what you mean.
[05:24] <RWOverdijk> owh, I didn't even know that channel existed. Thanks :)
[05:25] <Zipper2014> owh: The command line you gave me is not really clear to me. I am use to something like "Sudo apt-get install" or "sudo apt-get update".
[05:25] <owh> mozzarella: What doesn't work? Your keyboard, the mouse, the software? Be specific.
[05:25] <mozzarella> owh: it says "access denied" when I try to access the folder from a windows machine
[05:25] <owh> mozzarella: As a guest or a user?
[05:26] <Zipper2014> mozzarella: did you allow guest access?
[05:26] <mozzarella> owh: a guest I guess… wasn't asked to log in or anything
[05:26] <Zipper2014> You may need to add guest acess to the shared folder.
[05:26] <mozzarella> Zipper2014: yes
[05:26] <Jonii> Any encouraging words?
[05:26] <owh> Zipper2014: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[05:26] <Jonii> Also, if someone could help me with google search words, that would be nice
[05:26] <owh> Zipper2014: Or if your drive is sda, it's: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
[05:27] <Jonii> Grub 2 locate windows?
[05:27] <owh> Jonii: Lots going on around here. Without hitting return 17 times, what are you trying to solve?
[05:27] <Radon_3> hi guys, again, sorry if it took me this long.
[05:28] <Jonii> owh: long story short, i installed ubuntu, and lost windows bootloader and access to windows in the process. trying to regain that
[05:28] <massimo> buongiorno a tutti
[05:28] <Radon_3> what is the defaul password for su in ubuntu live?
[05:28] <owh> Radon_3: Empty. Use sudo -s
[05:28] <Jonii> Radon_3: I don't think there is a password for su in ubuntu live?
[05:29] <owh> !it | massimo
[05:29] <Radon_3> well it is asking for a password, and when I don't enter anything it says authentication failed
[05:29] <owh> Radon_3: With sudo -s?
[05:29] <Zipper2014> It says: 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.000866577 s, 591 kb/s
[05:29] <Radon_3> no
[05:29] <Zipper2014> own: is this right?
[05:30] <owh> Zipper2014: Yup. Now install Ubuntu.
[05:30] <owh> Jonii: My Google was "grub windows" and this link came back: http://askubuntu.com/questions/135272/how-to-boot-into-windows-7-when-grub-is-installed-in-the-windows-partition
[05:31] <Radon_3> ok, so I have extracted bootinfoscript in '/media/WasteSpace/bootinfoscript' how should I run it?
[05:31] <yellowfish> If I'm running 4 python processes, will they run faster on a 2 core compared to a one core?
[05:31] <owh> Beldar: You're up!
[05:32] <Zipper2014> owh: For some reason, it either gets stuck at the part where it says "Fro best results, please ensure that this computer:" OR it moves past that part.
[05:32] <Zipper2014> A lot of times it gets stuck there.
[05:32] <owh> yellowfish: Ask that in #python.
[05:32] <Radon_3> sudo -s /media/WasteSpace/bootinfoscript  -> says -> /bin/bash: /media/WasteSpace/bootinfoscript: Permission denied
[05:32] <owh> yellowfish: Ask that in #python
[05:32] <Radon_3> what should I do?
[05:33] <Radon_3> sudo /media/WasteSpace/bootinfoscript -> sudo: /media/WasteSpace/bootinfoscript: command not found
[05:33] <owh> Radon_3: No. Type in "sudo -s[return]", then run the script.
[05:34] <Radon_3> did it but again says permission denied :(
[05:34] <Jonii> It gives conflicting advice. bootrec /fixboot may or may not solve the problem according to that
[05:34] <owh> Jonii: Ironically you and Radon_3 are having a similar problem.
[05:35] <Jonii> Also, there's an issue. That question presumes there is windows entry, that is not working, on the grub menu
[05:35] <Jonii> There is not one in my case
[05:35] <Jonii> Only Ubuntu
[05:35] <Beldar> Jonii, Try in ubuntu sudo update-grub
[05:36] <Radon_3> http://tny.cz/c48ec5a3
[05:36] <Radon_3> ;(
[05:37] <owh> Radon_3: Well that's pretty special.
[05:37] <mgolisch> Radon_3: the thing is not executable?
[05:37] <Jonii> Beldar: is there a reason to expect that this command would do something bad to my computer?
[05:37] <mgolisch> usualy external media is mounted noexec
[05:37] <mgolisch> so you cant execute anything on it
[05:37] <owh> Fair point.
[05:37] <Beldar> Radon_3, Honestly I have no idea how the download is not in downloads, so all you have to do is run.  sudo ~/Downloads/bootinfoscript
[05:38] <owh> You can work around it, use this as your command: "bash /media/WasteSpace/bootinfoscript"
[05:38] <Beldar> Jonii, standard command
[05:38] <Zipper2014> owh: OK I quite the install and ran it again and it is now working.
[05:38] <owh> Zipper2014: Excellent. Make sure you pay the tooth fairy.
[05:39] <Zipper2014> owh: Will let you know what the end results will be after it is done installing.
[05:39] <Radon_3> got it to work
[05:39] <Radon_3> Finally
[05:39] <owh> Zipper2014: Pay attention when it asks about the boot installer.
[05:39] <Zipper2014> owh: Mind to explain this more?
[05:40] <owh> Well, that's three people with boot block issues. Anyone see a trend?
[05:40] <Radon_3> http://tny.cz/b0991655
[05:40] <owh> Zipper2014: You need to have the installer install the boot loader in the drive, not the partition.
[05:40] <Radon_3> ^Result
[05:40] <dw1> Darn video drivers
[05:40] <Zipper2014> What I normally do is I choose erease and install.
[05:42] <Beldar> Radon_3, Looks good you just need grub in the mbr, this tool with the basic repair should work, it has the same script run save it's url.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:43] <Radon_3> Beldar: Will it make it possible for me to boot to both ubuntu and windows?
[05:43] <Beldar> Radon_3, I have to take off for work for a 1/2 hr now is all.
[05:44] <Radon_3> OK man, won't make you stay anylonger, go get the work, thanks for help
[05:44] <Beldar> Radon_3, Should yes, grub multiboots, I have 4 OS on my HD.
[05:44] <Jonii> Beldar: I don't want to break the system any further. I want either to understand the command you're asking me to run or hear reassuring words that tell me that I can't damage the system by running the command suggested
[05:44] <Radon_3> owh: any ideas?
[05:45] <Jonii> I'm trying to read about the theory behind update-grub, but it seems to use information from files that I don't understand how they were created or what information they contain
[05:45] <Jonii> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html
[05:45] <Jonii> Namely, that source
[05:45] <Beldar> Jonii, Ah surem grub is the bootloader, it has a part called the os-prober, this finds other OS and adds them to the boot menu.
[05:45] <Jonii> okay
[05:45] <Jonii> That's more or less what I was trying to find
[05:46] <owh> Radon_3: Ideas? Lots. Many and varied. About what in particular?
[05:46] <Beldar> Jonii, That's an excellent source, I have to gp to work is all.
[05:46] <Beldar> go*
[05:46] <Radon_3> oh, funny. about my problem and how I can fix it without hurting my data
[05:47] <owh> Radon_3: Did you not read the information from Beldar?
[05:47] <Radon_3> the Boot-repair thingy?
[05:47] <Radon_3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair ?
[05:48] <owh> Yup
[05:48] <Radon_3> ok, hang on
[05:48] <Radon_3> I am going to read it
[05:48] <owh> I'll just sit here holding on with baited breath then :-)
[05:52] <kanhiya> hi all, recently i was using Mobile Media converter in ubuntu, now i am using ubuntu 14.04 and mobile media converter is not installing . Many dependency problems, medibuntu repo. are down and is there any GUI  alternative to the MObile media converter
[05:52] <Radon_3> owh: seems cool, doesn't ubuntu itself have a kind of beeot repair utility? I mean like a part of the original live iso?
[05:53] <kanhiya> i tried format junkie but it is not up to the mark, it is not allowing me to set options for converted video resolutions
[05:53] <kanhiya> i mean, i need 320X240 videos
[05:53] <kanhiya> and i am unable to convert them in specified format
[05:54] <kanhiya> guys and gals, any help will be appreciated
[05:54] <owh> Radon_3: Use the 2nd option and the answer will be Yes.
[05:54] <kanhiya> it is necessary for me to convert videos,
[05:55] <owh> kanhiya: I'm sure a question is coming soon.
[05:55] <owh> kanhiya: Perhaps it would help if you asked your question first. Then we might be able to help.
[05:55] <kanhiya> owh: :) i have already asked my question
[05:56] <Radon_3> owh: I am actually doing that. but this command 'sudo sed 's/trusty/saucy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yannubuntu-boot-repair-trusty.list' gives me this error: 'can't read /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yannubuntu-boot-repair-trusty.list: No such file or directory'
[05:56] <kanhiya> owh: recently i was using Mobile Media converter in ubuntu, now i am using ubuntu 14.04 and mobile media converter is not installing . Many dependency problems, medibuntu repo. are down and is there any GUI  alternative to the MObile media converter
[05:56] <Radon_3> should I just ignore it?
[05:56] <owh> Radon_3: Which version of Ubuntu are you currently running?
[05:57] <Zipper2014> Is it me or does 14.04's logo look like Heart Bleeds logo?
[05:57] <owh> Zipper2014: No, it's just you.
[05:57] <Radon_3> I am running ubuntu 12.04LTS live
[05:57] <Radon_3> on a flash USB stick
[05:58] <srock> no way
[05:58] <Zipper2014> It would be cool if we could use the Live OS and save things to it.
[05:58] <owh> Radon_3: That's "Precise", so neither trusty or saucy are correct.
[05:58] <srock> blue ray movies online
[05:59] <Zipper2014> Where did Ubuntu get its name for 14.04?
[05:59] <Radon_3> owh: I didnot understand your last comment man, what do you mean?
[05:59] <Radon_3> What should I do now?
[05:59] <owh> Radon_3: The command replaces the word "trusty" with the word "saucy". Both of those are names of Ubuntu versions. You're version is called "precise".
[06:00] <owh> s/You're/Your/
[06:01] <victomina> VFilho, tá aí??
[06:01] <zhang_> what are you doing?
[06:01] <owh> zhang_: Breathing and typing, you?
[06:01] <Zipper2014> LMAO
[06:02] <owh> Radon_3: I'm trying to figure out if the tool is available under 12.04.
[06:02] <Zipper2014> I am so happy to know that a REAL living being was helping me and not some undead.
[06:03] <owh> Zipper2014: I might be lying :)
[06:03] <Radon_3> owh: So I will wait for your info man, tell me if it is safe to run it.
[06:03] <Zipper2014> lol
[06:03] <owh> Radon_3: GoogleFu says: http://www.itworld.com/software/319339/install-boot-repair-utility-ubuntu-1210-or-1204
[06:03] <victomina> VFilho, are you fuck there??
[06:04] <Zipper2014> BTW, it is normal for Ubuntu 14.04 to take a while to install? about 20 minutes.
[06:04] <owh> victomina: This channel is rated PG.
[06:05] <Radon_3> so I assume it is safe to proceed, am I right?
[06:05] <zhang_> where are you from?
[06:05] <owh> Radon_3: Do you have backups?
[06:05] <Radon_3> No, actually
[06:05] <Radon_3> I have a 500GB disk full of data
[06:05] <Zipper2014> zhang_: owh is from a world that is unknown to man kind.
[06:06] <Radon_3> and have no other place to copy them to
[06:06] <owh> zhang_: I come from a land down under where women glow and men plunder.
[06:06] <Zipper2014> lol
[06:07] <zhang_> hahhahahhahahhahah
[06:07] <owh> Radon_3: So, I'm guessing that you like living on the edge.
[06:08] <Radon_3> can you please give me the right version of "sudo sed 's/trusty/saucy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yannubuntu-boot-repair-trusty.list" for my OS?
[06:08] <Radon_3> I can't type in the right one
[06:08] <owh> kanhiya: When you attempted to install your preferred tool, did you first update the apt cache and then upgrade the machine and then attempt to install your application?
[06:08] <owh> Radon_3: Did you read the link I sent to you.
[06:08] <kanhiya> YES, it is already updated
[06:09] <kanhiya> owh: i didn't upgraded, i did a clean install
[06:09] <kanhiya> of ubuntu 14.04
[06:09] <Radon_3> yes, but I figured you just wanted to show me that it was safe to use this tool in 12.04
[06:09] <owh> Radon_3: It has instructions on how to install it.
[06:09] <Zipper2014> Is Ubuntu now offering rolling updates?
[06:09] <kanhiya> owh: i tried xvid something, it is not working well
[06:09] <Zipper2014> releases*
[06:09] <owh> kanhiya: Is the application you want to install in the standard repositories?
[06:10] <Ben64> Zipper2014: no
[06:10] <Zipper2014> Ben64: Do you think they will in the future?
[06:10] <Ben64> Zipper2014: unlikely
[06:11] <jey> Where should I ask Ubuntu developer related questions? I'm interested in helping investigate a crash bug in firefox. I'm handy with gdb and strace, but I need some guidance on the Ubuntu-specific aspects
[06:11] <owh> #ubuntu-devel
[06:12] <lijianying> 。。。
[06:12] <owh> !cn | lijianying
[06:12] <Zipper2014> owh: It did not work. =*(
[06:13] <owh> Zipper2014: Define "it".
[06:14] <Zipper2014> "Error 1962: No operating syatem found. Press any key to repeat boot sequence."
[06:14] <owh> Zipper2014: Did you get the boot loader question?
[06:14] <Radon_3> alright, the thing is installed and ready to be used, shall I go on?
[06:15] <Zipper2014> After I installed the OS, I went into bios and set the boot to HD and than CD and took out the USB.
[06:15] <Radon_3> I am actually a little bit afraid, I mean afraid of losing my data
[06:15] <owh> Radon_3: That's entirely up to you. Personally I'd go to the nearest shop, put down $99 and buy a hard drive.
[06:15] <victomina> Hey,Somebody from brasil??
[06:15] <Zipper2014> Radon_3: Do you not have a way to back it up?
[06:15] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: that would be a no
[06:16] <owh> !br | victomina
[06:16] <Zipper2014> No CDs or DVDs or a Flash drive? =(
[06:16] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: no
[06:16] <Radon_3> nothing
[06:16] <Zipper2014> =(
[06:16] <Radon_3> I am a total free loader
[06:16] <victomina> #ubuntu-br
[06:17] <owh> Radon_3: That's entirely up to you. Personally I'd go to the nearest shop, put down $99 and buy a hard drive.
[06:17] <nrdb01> I am having trouble install some software I keep getting messages like http://paste.ubuntu.com/7371024/  ... what is wrong?
[06:17] <Radon_3> anyways, what's the worst that can happen?
[06:17] <owh> Radon_3: Loose all your data.
[06:17] <Radon_3> ALL of it, and not just the MBR???
[06:17] <owh> Radon_3: You asked what the worst was that could happen.
[06:17] <Radon_3> oh, I see
[06:18] <owh> nrdb01: Did you do what it suggests?
[06:18] <nrdb01> owh, I am hesitant to force an install
[06:18] <victomina> Hum Radon_3 i get it
[06:18] <owh> Radon_3: Don't mistake me. You're delving into the depths of the plumbing of your system.
[06:18] <Zipper2014> owh: I will screen shot each step and share you a link to it when I am done. Maybe you can tell me what I am doing wrong.
[06:19] <owh> nrdb01: It's a fix, not a force. Use apt-get -f install and it will attempt to fix any bits that are not yet correctly installed.
[06:19] <owh> nrdb01: Just "apt-get -f install", nothing else.
[06:19] <Radon_3> victomina: what do you mean?
[06:19] <nrdb01> owh, ok I will
[06:19] <Radon_3> owh: Well in my case I don't like to dive into this
[06:20] <owh> Zipper2014: Not sure that's the best path any longer.
[06:20] <owh> Zipper2014: Did you keep hitting enter, or did you actually make choices on the installer?
[06:21] <Zipper2014> I made choices.
[06:21] <owh> Zipper2014: So, what choice did you make for the bootloader?
[06:22] <Zipper2014> owh: On the first screen I clicked "Continue" ----> on the second page I clicked "Download updates while installing" & "Install this third-party softrware".
[06:22] <owh> Zipper2014: It occurs to me that the order might be different than I recall. When you installed Ubuntu, did you choose: "Install Ubuntu alongside them", or "Erase disk and install Ubuntu"
[06:23] <Zipper2014> I always do "Erase disk and install Ubuntu".
[06:23] <owh> Zipper2014: How many drives in the machine?
[06:23] <Zipper2014> One
[06:24] <owh> Zipper2014: In the BIOS are you sure you're pointing at the HDD and not at some other device?
[06:24] <Zipper2014> Sada drive
[06:24] <Zipper2014> I am 100% sure.
[06:24] <owh> Zipper2014: Well, to re-use a phrase: "That's special." Let me have a think.
[06:25] <Zipper2014> owh: I have also made sure that thew installtion matches the code matching thing to assure it is not currpted. And it passed.
[06:27] <computer> hiiii all
[06:27] <Radon_3> brb
[06:27] <Jonii> I am grateful
[06:28] <Jonii> Beldar: thank you
[06:28] <Jonii> Beldar: update-grub fixed all my problems
[06:28] <Jonii> I am happy now
[06:28] <owh> Zipper2014: So, let me recap: You have a machine with one hdd, a SATA drive. It has nothing important on it. A full install of Ubuntu with "Erase disk" completes, but it doesn't boot. It returns the error "Error 1962: No operating syatem found. Press any key to repeat boot sequence." even removing the MBR with dd didn't fix the issue.
[06:28] <Beldar> Jonii, Cool, enjoy. ;)
[06:30] <owh> Zipper2014: This is an interesting lead: http://superuser.com/questions/559526/lenovo-desktop-computer-only-boot-with-f12
[06:37] <owh> Nothing like finding the solution just as the person leaves ;-)
[06:38] <trijntje> A user posted this screenshot of a 4Mb file taking 34Mb on an ext4 filesystem. What can be that cause of that huge overhead?
[06:38] <trijntje> http://www.mediafire.com/view/1vf1otqol0ic1m9/2014-04-30-212212_1360x768_scrot.png#
[06:38] <owh> trijntje: Large block size?
[06:39] <dw1> hmm https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[06:39] <dw1> darn new technologies....
[06:39] <zsandu> guys, I'm about to install ubuntu on my laptop, via the "something else" option. Now what I'd like to do is skip the part where it installs the bootloader. I already have syslinux that can handle that. How can skip it? o.o
[06:39] <owh> trijntje: Is /media/{mumble} a special device, like a DVD?
[06:40] <owh> dw1: That page makes my eyes water.
[06:40] <cfhowlett> zsandu when the option appears to choose if/where to install, choose neither
[06:42] <trijntje> owh: no, it should be an ext4 partition
[06:42] <tracyone> :-D
[06:42] <owh> dw1: It has the same density of information as "A quick howto on compiling the kernel from source."
[06:42] <owh> trijntje: Is it a huge drive?
[06:42] <dw1> owh: haha, yeah
[06:42] <trijntje> owh: yeah, 2TB or larger
[06:43] <obx> guys i have a sound problem
[06:43] <dw1> owh: thats the "newer, simpler" documentation ;)
[06:43] <owh> dw1: OMH
[06:43] <owh> s/H/G/
[06:43] <owh> trijntje: With sudo fdisk -l you can determine the block size of the drive.
[06:43] <zsandu> cfhowlett, well, there is drop list saying: "Device for boot loader installation". But there's no option to choose "none".
[06:43] <obx> i'm using pulseaudio and at higher volumes ESPECIALLY in vlc the sound gets clippy and distorted
[06:44] <cfhowlett> zsandu if you choose NO device that = "none"
[06:44] <owh> obx: VLC has a system that allows you to set the volume to more than 100%, it's a software compressor IIRC. It's not ever going to be perfect.
[06:45] <obx> i should probably test with other sound
[06:45] <obx> like flash
[06:45] <owh> obx: Yup.
[06:45] <trijntje> owh: I'll ask the user to tell the block size. I guess if the block size is >16kb AND those songs are torrented it could explain the fragmentation, since the minimum chunk size in torrents is 16kb, so each piece would get the blocksize=16kb overhead
[06:45] <Zipper2014> Sorry lost internet, like always. I really hate Comcast.
[06:45] <obx> i did the pulse-audio systemwide thing from webupd8
[06:46] <trijntje> blocksize - 16kb
[06:46] <zsandu> cfhowlett, indeed. The problem is i'm presented only with /dev/sdx options
[06:46] <obx> Zipper2014: i have dish internet
[06:46] <owh> Zipper2014: Did you see the link I sent you?
[06:46] <Zipper2014> obx: Is it worse?
[06:46] <obx> Oh god
[06:46] <obx> anyways let me try flash quickly
[06:46] <Zipper2014> owh: I am sorry, I did not.
[06:46] <owh> Zipper2014: http://superuser.com/questions/559526/lenovo-desktop-computer-only-boot-with-f12
[06:46] <cfhowlett> zsandu you ARE using the manual installation option?  i.e. "install to something else" (or similar language)?
[06:47] <StPiere> my terminal in ubuntu 14.04 very often runs sluggy and slow
[06:47] <owh> Zipper2014: I'm thinking this is a UEFI issue.
[06:47] <StPiere> i have tried gnome-terminal, terminator , uterm, xterm
[06:47] <obx> yup owh it's just vlc
[06:47] <Zipper2014> owh: What does this mean?
[06:47] <StPiere> any idea?
[06:47] <obx> i'm playing a song in youtube and it's pretty loud and it sounds fine
[06:48] <owh> obx: I'm guessing that means the default volume is more than 100%.
[06:48] <owh> obx: In VLC that is.
[06:48] <owh> Zipper2014: It means that you need to set your boot to legacy. There's an evil page that dw1 shared that has more information.
[06:48] <obx> owh: yeah but i can barely hear at 100 i think
[06:48] <owh> Zipper2014: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[06:49] <trijntje> owh: thanks for your help
[06:49] <nodedfree> i am seeking of intresting game server to run on my vps.. which you recommend? (thought about cs:go)
[06:49] <owh> obx: Then the hardware volume of your speakers is too low.
[06:49] <owh> trijntje: Geen probleem :-)
[06:49] <obx> how do i change that lol
[06:49] <owh> obx: Well if YouTube is working and VLC isn't, you've "fixed" something.
[06:50] <obx> owh yeah this is actually the second reinstall of ubuntu in the past two days
[06:50] <obx> i had pixpuf errors earlier today
[06:50] <dw1> owh, Zipper2014 when Jordan_U is on ask him, he's a pro :)
[06:51] <obx> it does get a little skippy sometimes on youtube
[06:51] <obx> but i'm ok with that
[06:51] <owh> obx: Read this: https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=72471
[06:51] <obx> owh: you are the best jsyk
[06:52] <Zipper2014> I am just very confused because I have been able to install Zorin OS, which uses the same installer. Not sure why Ubuntu should be any different.
[06:52] <dw1> obx: try volume knob on speaker wire :P
[06:52] <Zipper2014> This link is great, but very confusing as to what I am doing.
[06:52] <owh> dw1: Nah, unless YouTube has a hand that gets out of the screen and turns the knob...
[06:53]  * dw1 isnt really paying attention
[06:53] <owh> Zipper2014: It's catering for Windows users. Likely it has some UEFI magic.
[06:53] <Zipper2014> I have no windows on this PC.
[06:53] <Zipper2014> It has been long ditched.
[06:54] <obx> ok after listening to the boss sing "royals" i can say it's vlc
[06:54] <owh> Zipper2014: I know. The UEFI stuff is evil and it's likely what's causing your boot issue. In your BIOS you should be able to set this correctly.
[06:54] <dw1> Zipper2014: try boot-repair prog from livecd?
[06:54] <Zipper2014> dw1: There are no boot repair on the Live OS.
[06:54] <owh> dw1: No point, we did a fresh install with a zeroed MBR.
[06:55] <Zipper2014> owh: I am good with directions. But not sure what else to turn off. I have disabled the quick boot load.
[06:55] <dw1> Zipper2014: yeah, you need to download https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[06:56] <Zipper2014> dw1: After I do this, do I need a new Flash Drive for this?
[06:56] <Zipper2014> Or do I run this while on the Live OS?
[06:56] <dw1> Zipper2014: option #2
[06:56] <owh> dw1: Ah, I see. boot-repair is the UEFI "fix". Fun.
[06:56] <dw1> its supposed to be magic, for everything
[06:56] <owh> dw1: Like rebuilding the Desktop?
[06:57] <dw1> owh: not that magic
[06:57] <owh> dw1: Or zapping the P-RAM?
[06:57] <Zipper2014> dw1: Can the magic fix finish the 5th install for me? Oh and get me somemore coffee too please?
[06:57] <dw1> Zipper2014: :)
[06:58] <Zipper2014> I wont say any name or bash anyone, but this community seems to be a LOT more respectful and clean then mints.
[06:58] <owh> Zipper2014: Bugger. Sorry I added one more to your list.
[06:58] <owh> Zipper2014: It's what brought me over from Debian :)
[06:59] <Zipper2014> After a few run ins with Mint, I never used there OS again.
[07:00] <owh> dw1: What do you recon. Have you got a few spare nicks to help Zipper2014 install the OS a few more times. We should be able to get it up to 12 >;-)
[07:00] <Zipper2014> dw1: After doing option two, are these suppose to be all in one or seperate commands?
[07:01] <owh> Zipper2014: They are 4 separate lines.
[07:01] <Zipper2014> k
[07:02] <Radon_3> owh: OK, according to this "sudo grub-install /dev/XXX" I am willing to try 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda' is this recomended?
[07:02] <Radon_3> Is this something you would do?
[07:02] <owh> Radon_3: Yup.
[07:02] <Radon_3> really?
[07:02] <Beldar> Radon_3, sda is correct
[07:02] <owh> Radon_3: Yup. Really.
[07:02] <dw1> grub-install is the legacy grub.
[07:02] <dw1> i learned this from Jordan
[07:02] <Radon_3> I mean, If I run this command, am I still risking losing my data or not?
[07:03] <owh> Radon_3: It will install a boot loader into the MBR of /dev/sda
[07:03] <dw1> grub2 is grub-pc, update-grub
[07:03] <owh> dw1: Huh?
[07:03] <dw1> dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc will reconfig grub2 easy
[07:03] <Beldar> dw1, for loading the mbr grub-install is correct
[07:03] <Zipper2014> Yea, we have 50/Mbps Download and 10/Mbps Upload and our provider simple disrespects it's customers with no regards to the fact they're paying for services. They are also listed as the number 1 worst company in the US. (Comcast)
[07:03] <dw1> k
[07:03] <Radon_3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:04] <Radon_3> what is the possiblity of me losing some data to that command?
[07:04] <dw1> none
[07:04] <owh> Radon_3: Your data will not be affected. You may have to jump through a few hoops to get to it, but the command won't erase it. It installs a tiny programme that allows your computer to choose which OS to boot.
[07:04] <Zipper2014> Radon_3, how sentive is your data?
[07:05] <Zipper2014> sensitive*
[07:05] <Radon_3> not much, just won't be able to replicate some of my documents, and also won't actually be able to download them , soI would say from scale of 1 to 10, may data is 4 sensitive
[07:05] <Beldar> Radon_3, That command is from the install, you would have to be chrooted to run it on a live cd/usb
[07:06] <dw1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[07:06] <obx> that completely fixed it owh thank you OH SO MUCH
[07:06] <Radon_3> Beldar: how can I get chrooted?
[07:06] <Zipper2014> You could host the data on the cloud, but you give them permission to use it how they wish.
[07:06] <obx> it no longer gets clippy over 100%
[07:06] <owh> obx: Egg sealant.
[07:06]  * obx hugs owh
[07:06] <dw1> i'd go with grub2 not grub legacy.......
[07:06] <obx> is there a firefox room on freenode
[07:06] <dw1> grub-install is legacy
[07:07] <owh> obx: TIAS
[07:07] <obx> i don't know what means
[07:07] <Radon_3> dw1: how can I get grub 2?
[07:07] <dw1> Radon_3: you may already have it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[07:08] <dw1> Radon_3: does dpkg -l | grep grub-pc show a package?
[07:08] <Beldar> dw1, grub-install is not legacy, stop that.
[07:09] <dw1> Beldar: after i ran grub-install i was reprimanded and instructed on how to reinstall grub2 because i broke it
[07:09] <owh> obx: Try It And See
[07:09] <Beldar> this is a /dev/sda a mbr load
[07:10] <Radon_3> dw1: yes two packages
[07:10] <dw1> yes grub2 also loads to mbr
[07:10] <owh> There are several other OS installs on Radon_3's machine.
[07:10] <Zipper2014> dw1: After I finish this process, do I reinstall again? Or will it run what I already have installed?
[07:10] <owh> Zipper2014: It will find what is already there.
[07:10] <dw1> Radon_3: ok do a debconf-show grub-pc
[07:10] <dw1> Radon_3: should be a * next to your disk.. if so all good
[07:11] <dw1> Radon_3: if not, run dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[07:11] <Zipper2014> owh & dw1: We should put you both in a bottle... we shall call you Linux Genies.
[07:11] <dw1> Radon_3: and when you get to the part to choose where to install, choose the drive not a partition
[07:12] <dw1> Radon_3: then debconf-show grub-pc will show its installed to the drive and should work
[07:12] <owh> Zipper2014: If only that paid the bills :)
[07:12] <Zipper2014> lol
[07:12] <onca> I need to convert a string to url uhh I don't know what that's called
[07:12] <onca> you knw, where spaces are replaced with %20
[07:12] <owh> onca: URLencode
[07:12] <onca> ktnxbai
[07:13]  * onca *hugs* owh
[07:13] <dw1> Radon_3: easy :)
[07:13] <Zipper2014> Is it on my end or is it slow connecting to archive.ubuntu.com?
[07:13] <owh> Zipper2014: Works for me.
[07:13] <zsandu> cfhowlett, sorry for the late replies. I was doing some other stuff. Here's a pic of the options I got: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x3n4r2t6ekrxpcf/IMG_20140501_085229_133.jpg
[07:14] <Radon_3> ok, I ran "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" and I get this error: root@ubuntu:~# sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[07:14] <cfhowlett> zsandu yes but at some point on a manual install you are given the explicit option to install a bootloader - or NOT install a bootloader.
[07:15] <zsandu> cfhowlett, alright. Thank you <3
[07:15] <Radon_3> error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).
[07:15] <dw1> Radon_3: you dont need grub-install if you do dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc it will fix it right up..
[07:15] <Radon_3> How should I fix this?
[07:15] <dw1> Radon_3: i was told not to use grub-install for grub2/grub-pc
[07:16] <owh> dw1: I think Radon_3 is now running two different sets of commands at the same time.
[07:16] <dw1> owh: yeah
[07:16] <obx> how would i go about setting up a complete "dev" set up for compiling coding etc
[07:16] <owh> dw1: When Radon_3 comes back, start from the beginning.
[07:17] <dw1> owh: whyy
[07:17] <Radon_3> my mozilola just crashed
[07:17] <cfhowlett> obx options abound.  I suggest you grab the Dell Sputnik ISO packages.
[07:17] <Radon_3> sorry
[07:17] <owh> dw1: Because there is now confusion and confusion is not good with data.
[07:17] <Radon_3> ok, I get this error: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).
[07:17] <owh> obx: Dev for what?
[07:17] <Radon_3> Grub probe
[07:17] <obx> i don't know gcc g++ etc
[07:17] <Radon_3> What should I do?
[07:17] <obx> it used to be build-essential(s)?
[07:17] <dw1> Radon_3: youre running grub-install.. dont run that with grub-pc... run dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[07:18] <obx> but i haven't used ubuntu regularly in quite a few years
[07:18] <Beldar> Radon_3, this is the chroot and install. http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[07:18] <Radon_3> dw1: what is the command for that?
[07:18] <Zipper2014> http://tinyurl.com/n5xmxzu
[07:18] <Zipper2014> How does this look?
[07:18] <cfhowlett> obx here is the list of sputnik developer edition packages:  http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/w/wiki/3687.software-dell-xps-13-laptop-developer-edition.aspx
[07:19] <ambush276> hey guys i was wondering about a question about the nc command
[07:19] <owh> Zipper2014: You don't have a boot loader. You need to do the same as Radon_3 is doing.
[07:19] <obx> i meant on ubuntu but
[07:19] <Zipper2014> Then what was the point of me using that tool?
[07:19] <cfhowlett> obx sputnik is a customized version of ubuntu
[07:20] <ambush276> ive read many comments on stackoverflwo but i can't accomplish this simple function
[07:20] <ambush276> i basically just want to check if a port is open with nc
[07:20] <owh> Zipper2014: To learn that. As in, until know we didn't know that you didn't have a boot loader. Now we do.
[07:20] <ambush276> on the listening server i have nc -l portNo
[07:20] <Zipper2014> So what do I do?
[07:20] <ambush276> on the client ive tried many things all i want is a response of some kind to tell me if the port is open or closed
[07:20] <owh> Listen to the instructions dw1 is giving to Radon_3.
[07:21] <owh> Uh, Zipper2014, listen to the instructions dw1 is giving to Radon_3.
[07:21] <dw1> no, now im doubting stuff because grub-install is part of the method at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[07:21]  * owh sighs.
[07:21] <dw1> but it was sooo easy with dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc.. but that wasnt from a livecd
[07:21] <Zipper2014> I'm sorry, what does grub have to do with a boot loader?
[07:22] <owh> Zipper2014: It *is* a boot loader.
[07:22] <Zipper2014> Really?
[07:22] <Zipper2014> dw1: When my computer starts up, it beeps at me. Why is this?
[07:22] <owh> Zipper2014: No, I just make stuff up for fun.
[07:23] <dw1> Zipper2014: could be lots of things......
[07:23] <Jordan_U>  /lastlog dw1
[07:23] <Zipper2014> Calm down silly thing.
[07:23] <dw1> Zipper2014: serious hardware error, even
[07:23] <cfhowlett> Zipper2014 hardware failure message or just normal on/off feedback.  read your documentation
[07:23] <Beldar> dw1, You have installing grub mixed with loading the mbr
[07:23] <owh> Zipper2014: You're holding down a key on the keyboard.
[07:23] <dw1> Beldar: perhaps
[07:23] <Zipper2014> It did not beep until after I ran that boot thing.
[07:23] <Beldar> it happens to all of us
[07:24] <Zipper2014> ok so what do I need to install on the Live OS?
[07:24] <owh> So, both Zipper2014 and Radon_3 are running LiveCDs. They need an MBR installed.
[07:25] <Zipper2014> What is an MBR?
[07:25] <owh> Master Boot Record
[07:25] <Zipper2014> How do we get this?
[07:25] <owh> The computer boots. It looks for bootable hardware. The hardware has an MBR that points at a boot loader which loads the OS.
[07:26] <owh> Beldar was talking through it with Radon_3 when dw1 got confused. Is everyone now on the same page?
[07:26] <Zipper2014> And when it does not fin this, it gives us the error 1962? If so, how can we fix this?
[07:26] <owh> Zipper2014: Stand by. We're working on it for both you and Radon_3.
[07:26] <owh> Beldar: Over to you.
[07:27] <Zipper2014> Great thank you both very much for your time and help. =)
[07:27] <Zipper2014> brb nature calls.
[07:27] <Radon_3> done http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[07:27] <Radon_3> going to restart
[07:27] <Radon_3> standby for thhe news
[07:27] <dw1> exiting.
[07:27] <dw1> exciting.
[07:28] <helmut_> hi
[07:28] <apg> hi
[07:28] <apg> hi
[07:28] <owh> low
[07:30] <Zipper2014> Did he come back yet?
[07:30] <Zipper2014> BTW, does Radon_3 have a Lenovo like me?
[07:30] <bekks> Zipper2014: The hardware doesnt matter actually.
[07:30] <Zipper2014> k
[07:31] <hikaruBG> hi guys
[07:31] <owh> low girls
[07:31] <hikaruBG> suddenly the shutdown button on my Ubuntu 14.04 won't show
[07:31] <hikaruBG> any ideas why?
[07:31] <owh> hikaruBG: Which shutdown button?
[07:31] <hikaruBG> in the top right corner
[07:32] <Zipper2014> hikaruBG: Sorry, I try to use it on my hubby. Forgot to return it.
[07:32] <hikaruBG> shut down should show small display
[07:33] <owh> hikaruBG: Are you talking about the button missing or the display missing?
[07:34] <Radon_3> nope, the motherfing BillGates doesn't let go
[07:34] <Radon_3> Firmly holding the ground
[07:34] <Zipper2014> lol
[07:34] <Radon_3> All I get is still Strating Cmain()...
[07:35] <Radon_3> a few blinks
[07:35] <owh> Radon_3: So, does the boot info stuff now show a boot loader?
[07:35] <Zipper2014> Randon_3, this calls for some chain cutters.
[07:35] <Radon_3> and then grub4dos
[07:35] <hikaruBG> the top corner button is there, when you click it - there is a drop-down menu, then there is shutdown option there and it won't do anything when you click it.
[07:35] <bekks> !rootirc | root
[07:35] <root> umm
[07:35] <owh> ROTFL
[07:35] <bekks> Guest13160: you are still using your root account.
[07:36] <hikaruBG> owh, the top corner button is there, when you click it - there is a drop-down menu, then there is shutdown option there and it won't do anything when you click it.
[07:36] <Radon_3> I can boot to the Fing windows though
[07:36] <owh> hikaruBG: Try logging out and logging back in.
[07:36] <Zipper2014> Radon_3: I know hardware does not matter, but are you using a Lenovo?
[07:36] <hikaruBG> i have
[07:36] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: nope
[07:36] <hikaruBG> same issue
[07:36] <Radon_3> I am on a PC man
[07:37] <exported> lolz
[07:37] <Zipper2014> We all are on a PC.
[07:37] <dw1> Radon_3: try doing the chroot then dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc .. should go easy and find all OSes
[07:37] <Radon_3> would somebody kindly help me please
[07:37] <owh> Radon_3: That's what we've been doing for some time now. Three of us.
[07:37] <Radon_3> I want the fucking windows7 boot loader to fuckoff, with all due respect
[07:38] <Guest13160> how to change my name
[07:38] <bekks> Guest13160: log out as root. log in as user.
[07:38] <dw1> Radon_3: family channel, dont get banned :p
[07:38] <cfhowlett> Radon_3 profanity in this family friendly channel is disrespectful.  adjust.
[07:38] <owh> Radon_3: use the instructions that dw1 gave you. Do all the steps until grub-install. When you're there let us know.
[07:38] <Radon_3> sorry, won't happen again, that's just how frustrated I am right now
[07:38] <Guest13160> how change name
[07:39] <bekks> Guest13160: log out as root. log in as user.
[07:39] <cfhowlett> !nick|Guest13160
[07:39] <owh> The same goes for you Zipper2014. Use this URL: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[07:39] <Guest13160> @cfhowlett  thks
[07:39] <Guest13160> nick Cooive
[07:39] <Guest13160> #nick Cooive
[07:40] <owh> Guest13160: The character you're looking for is the forward slash.
[07:40] <bekks> Guest13160: "/nick newnick" - and changing your nickname will not change the fact that you are still logged in as root.
[07:40] <owh> bekks: I'm not sure that Cooive understands what you mean.
[07:40] <Cooive> 打不出来汉字
[07:41] <cfhowlett> !cn|Cooive
[07:41] <Radon_3> dw1: can you be a doll please and tell me what to do again, cause I don't have access to the instructions you previously provided me with anymore.
[07:41] <owh> Radon_3: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[07:41] <Cooive> @cfhowlett  你三哪国人啊
[07:42] <dw1> Radon_3: new instructions: try doing the chroot then dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc .. should go easy and find all OSes
[07:42] <owh> Zipper2014: While you're doing that URL, stop when you get to grub-install.
[07:42] <Radon_3> owh: that's exactly what I did, and got no results a few minutes back
[07:42] <owh> Radon_3: Yes. We're changing the instructions. Do the bit until you get to grub-install.
[07:43] <owh> Radon_3: Then stop and tell us you're there.
[07:43] <owh> Zipper2014: Stop when you get to grub-install and let us know.
[07:43] <Zipper2014> http://tinypic.com/r/2wqfhfq/8
[07:43] <Radon_3> oh, I see, so instead of 'grub-install /dev/sdX' I will be typing "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" this time, is that right?
[07:44] <Zipper2014> Which one do I chose?
[07:44] <owh> Zipper2014: WTF?
[07:44] <Zipper2014> I am this command sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt
[07:44] <owh> Zipper2014: Ah.
[07:45] <dw1> Radon_3: yes
[07:45] <Radon_3> alright
[07:45] <Radon_3> roger that chief!
[07:45] <Cooive> NDK compile android app ,is that has root permission
[07:45] <owh> Zipper2014: Why is there a FAT32 partition on your installation?
[07:45] <Zipper2014> I have no idea. I was kinda thinking the same thing.
[07:45] <Cooive>  NDK compile android app ,is that has root permission
[07:45] <bekks> owh: Maybe he is using EFI.
[07:46] <dw1> hopefully not.. heh
[07:46] <owh> Zipper2014: When you installed the OS, what drive did you choose?
[07:46] <dw1> i dont know efibootmgr yet
[07:46] <Zipper2014> What is EFI and how do I know if that is what I am using?
[07:46] <bekks> !uefi | Zipper2014
[07:47] <Speiros> Hello again.  What is the command for going into a file in terminal, and also for going back out of it?  From dir.
[07:47] <Radon_3> ok, I have just done "sudo chroot /mnt"
[07:48] <Radon_3> what now?
[07:48] <owh> Zipper2014: When you installed the OS, what drive did you choose?
[07:48] <Zipper2014> I feel over linked. haha
[07:48] <bekks> Speiros: What are you actually trying to do?
[07:48] <Zipper2014> I am looking.
[07:49] <dw1> Radon_3: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc, then when it asks select the drive at the top, not a numbered partition, with spacebar to put a star on it, and then proceed
[07:49] <Speiros> Hi bekks.  I have downloaded a package onto my computer (manaplus), but although I know it's there, I can't seem to get terminal to find it to install it.
[07:49] <Asiajey> Speiros, less ?
[07:50] <Zipper2014> /dev/sda
[07:50] <bekks> Speiros: Which package? What are you actually trying to do?
[07:50] <Speiros> bekks therefore I thought if I could find which file it's in, I could go in there and install it by it's actual name.
[07:50] <bekks> Speiros: Which package do you try to install?
[07:50] <Speiros> I wish to run manaplus on my computer.   I had to reload the whole lot.
[07:50] <Speiros> Hang on, I'll find the actual name.
[07:51] <Radon_3> it says: http://tny.cz/afa08573 ???
[07:51] <Speiros> bekks it's called (and I installed it already) manaplus-addrepo_1.3_all.deb
[07:52] <Zipper2014> http://tinypic.com/r/kdsodf/8
[07:52]  * owh is thinking
[07:52] <dw1> Radon_3: hmm ok guess thats not the way to do it :P
[07:52] <bekks> Speiros: So if you installed it already - then you dont need to download and install it again?
[07:52] <Radon_3> dw1: what do you mean man?
[07:52] <Radon_3> did I reck it?
[07:52] <Radon_3> my system is messed up now isn't it?
[07:52] <Speiros> bekks correct, when I say I installed it, I mean I downloaded the package from the internet.  It needs from here to have the update command and the install manaplus, but they don't see it.
[07:52] <Radon_3> OMG I lost everything....
[07:52] <dw1> Radon_3: no just need to get the boot fixed relax, breathe
[07:52] <owh> Zipper2014: Use /dev/sda2
[07:52] <owh> Radon_3: No, it's all still there.
[07:53] <owh> Breathe!
[07:53] <Radon_3> ok
[07:53] <Radon_3> what now?
[07:53] <owh> Breathe.
[07:53] <bekks> Radon_3: You did not lose anything - install the package "grub-pc".
[07:53] <Radon_3> I am, or else wouldn't be able to type
[07:53] <dw1> he had it before..
[07:54] <Radon_3> would apt-get update
[07:54] <dw1> but is now in chroot
[07:54] <dw1> from a livecd
[07:54] <owh> dw1: On the live cd, not on the machine.
[07:54] <Radon_3> apt-get install grub-pc do it?
[07:54] <dw1> owh: ahh
[07:54] <bekks> Speiros: When downloading, you had to choose a folder to save the file - which folder did you choose?
[07:54] <dw1> Radon_3: yep
[07:54] <owh> Radon_3: Yup
[07:54] <Speiros> bekks to be honest I don't know.
[07:54] <Zipper2014> owh: http://tinypic.com/r/2i9o3d0/8
[07:55] <Zipper2014> owh: That is what I normally do.
[07:55] <Speiros> bekks it's in downloads
[07:55] <owh> Zipper2014: No. STOP!
[07:55] <Zipper2014> owh: ok?
[07:55] <bekks> Speiros: cd ~/Downloads; ls -lha
[07:55] <owh> Zipper2014: You're supposed to be doing this: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[07:55] <Speiros> bekks is that what I should type into terminal?
[07:56] <bekks> Speiros: Yeah. That will list the contents of your Downloads folder.
[07:56] <owh> Zipper2014: Boot from the LiveCD, then start that process.
[07:56] <Zipper2014> owh: So you want me to do sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt?
[07:56] <Speiros> bekks Thanks.  Yes, it has the file in red.
[07:56] <owh> Zipper2014: Yes, using /dev/sda2
[07:56] <Zipper2014> ok
[07:57] <bekks> Speiros: The colors are irrelevant actually.
[07:57] <Speiros> bekks ok
[07:57] <Radon_3> I am doing this from another terminal (I mean downloading and installing) is that alright?
[07:57] <owh> Radon_3: Only if that's in the chrooted environment.
[07:57] <Speiros> bekks so from here should I sudo apt-get install (full name of file)?
[07:57] <owh> Radon_3: Otherwise you're still installing in the LiveCD.
[07:57] <dw1> Radon_3: needs to be done in the chroot term
[07:58] <bekks> Speiros: You wont do that at all for foreign packages that arent available from the ubuntu repos.
[07:58] <dw1> stressful evening. :)
[07:58]  * owh wants to run around the block :)
[07:58] <bekks> Speiros: http://askubuntu.com/questions/40779/how-do-i-install-a-deb-file-via-the-command-line
[07:58] <Speiros> bekks I'll have a look.  Thanks
[07:59] <owh> dw1: Isn't it some stupid hour around your way?
[08:00] <dw1> owh: 1am
[08:00] <owh> dw1: That's what I mean :)
[08:00] <dw1> owh: i dont much keep track.. work at home :)
[08:00] <dw1> owh: make my own hours
[08:01] <Zipper2014> owh: http://tinypic.com/r/qpjb84/8
[08:01] <owh> dw1: Ditto. Though I try to keep the time sane at least. 4pm here.
[08:01] <frank_> Hey, all! Is there anyway I can make firefox as the default browser for web apps than the QML-based browser in 14.04?
[08:01] <Speiros> bekks Thanks, that worked.  Would I still be required to install it although I've just typed dpkg in?
[08:02] <owh> Zipper2014: Do: "ls /mnt"
[08:02] <Zipper2014> One (1)s?
[08:03] <owh> Zipper2014: Huh?
[08:03] <dw1> hmm.. looking for OS files
[08:03] <owh> Oh
[08:03] <owh> The letter L.
[08:03] <Zipper2014> k
[08:04] <dw1> Radon_3: get that grub-pc installed in chroot?
[08:04] <Radon_3> ok, in the installation process over here. It gave me a message, and now is asking me where to install grub-pc
[08:04] <Radon_3> the first one is:
[08:04] <dw1> Radon_3: choose the drive at the top, not the numbered partition
[08:05] <Speiros> bekks I still can't access that game mate.
[08:05] <owh> Zipper2014: What does it say?
[08:05] <Zipper2014> owh: http://tinypic.com/r/116tgnl/8
[08:06] <bekks> Speiros: Why not?
[08:06] <dw1> Zipper2014, owh, ahh you mounted the /boot partition, you need the root /
[08:06] <dw1> Zipper2014: /dev/sda1 probably
[08:06] <bekks> Speiros: So did you install or just typed "dpkg"?
[08:06] <owh> dw1: Yes, but where is the root. sda1 is an EFI partition, sda2 is an ext2, sda3 is unknown.
[08:06] <Zipper2014> So redo it all?
[08:06] <dw1> Zipper2014: so umount /mnt
[08:06] <owh> Zipper2014: No, just wait.
[08:07] <Radon_3> ok done
[08:07] <Radon_3> now what?
[08:07] <Radon_3> restart?
[08:07] <dw1> Radon_3: now do debconf-show grub-pc and you should see a * next to your drive, and yeah, reboot
[08:07] <owh> dw1: This is Zipper2014's layout: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=kdsodf&s=8#.U2IAaZS-VTN
[08:08] <Speiros> bekks I started off by typing dpkg -i, which worked, and then I did sudo apt-get install manaplus.  It said unable to locate package manaplus
[08:08] <Radon_3> yeap, I see the glorious stars
[08:08] <Radon_3> all over the place man
[08:08] <Zipper2014> I am soo confused.
[08:08] <dw1> Radon_3: give it a shot
[08:08] <owh> Zipper2014: Stand by.
[08:08] <bekks> Speiros: "dpkg -i" will not install anything, since you did nont specify the package name. You have to read the link I gave you - it tells you how to install a package.
[08:08] <Radon_3> so, should I not continue with the rest of the http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd ?
[08:09] <dw1> Radon_3: yes, do not continue
[08:09] <owh> Radon_3: Correct. Stop.
[08:09] <bekks> Speiros: And again: apt-get install will not work for a foreign deb.
[08:09] <Radon_3> ok, going to reboot
[08:09] <Speiros> bekks, I typed specifically sudo dpkg -i manaplus-addrepo_1.3_all.deb
[08:09] <Radon_3> be right back
[08:09] <owh> dw1: What do you recon is going on with Zipper2014?
[08:09] <bekks> Speiros: So you installed that package.
[08:09] <dw1> owh: need to find the root.......
[08:09] <frank_> Hey, all! Is there anyway I can make firefox as the default browser for web apps than the QML-based browser in 14.04?
[08:10] <dw1> owh: dont know why its not there
[08:10] <Speiros> It says it's setting up manaplus-addrepo (1.3), then okay, but still I can't use it.
[08:10] <bekks> frank_: Which qml based browser?
[08:10] <Zipper2014> I assume my zipper got stuck in the middle of boot and the Bios. Boy is it a mess.
[08:10] <bekks> Speiros: the run: sudo apt-get update
[08:10] <owh> dw1: Did you see this link: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=kdsodf&s=8#.U2IA0pS-VO2
[08:10] <Speiros> bekks Ok, thanks.
[08:10] <frank_> bekks: The one that 14.04 has introduced as part of its integration with ubuntu phone
[08:11] <bekks> frank_: Ah, so you are talking about ubuntu touch.
[08:11] <dw1> owh: yeah lookin at it
[08:11] <dw1> owh: i guess the efi got in the way or something
[08:11] <owh> dw1: Do you think the installer tried to install it onto sda1?
[08:11] <frank_> bekks: No, I am talking about ubuntu 14.04 desktop but if you install a web app you can see which browser it opens up in. I am talking about that browser.
[08:12] <owh> dw1: We can have a looksee.
[08:12] <Speiros> bekks Ok, that worked (or at least says "Done" lol)
[08:12] <owh> Zipper2014: Type: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[08:13] <zsandu> anybody in here use syslinux as bootloader?
[08:13] <bekks> Speiros: apt-cache search manaplus
[08:13] <Zipper2014> owh: mDone.
[08:13] <bekks> zsandu: hopefully not :)
[08:13] <Zipper2014> Done*
[08:13] <owh> Zipper2014: Now show us what ls /mnt returns.
[08:13] <zsandu> bekks, I just wanted to ask if someone could provide a .cfg example for ubuntu
[08:13] <Speiros> bekks, yes,  have a decent amount of packages on here.
[08:13] <owh> zsandu: I'd be googling that.
[08:13] <Zipper2014> EFI
[08:14] <Kartagis> ikonia: are you there?
[08:14] <bekks> Speiros: Now you can use "apt-get install" to install your desired packages.
[08:14] <zsandu> owh, "duckduckgo"
[08:14] <dw1> owh: nothing on sda3?
[08:14] <owh> zsandu: Or bing :)
[08:15] <Speiros> bekks, if I could buy you a beer/coffee, I would.  Thanks heaps.
[08:15] <zsandu> owh, ew
[08:15] <owh> dw1: Without a type? I doubt it.
[08:15] <bekks> Speiros: You're welcomee :)
[08:15] <Zipper2014> http://tinypic.com/r/ic5vr5/8
[08:15] <owh> Zipper2014: What model is your hardware?
[08:16]  * owh grumbles at EFI.
[08:16] <Zipper2014> owh: What are you seeking?
[08:16] <owh> zsandu: duckduckgo made me want to wash myself.
[08:16] <owh> Zipper2014: I want to google for instructions on how to disable EFI.
[08:17] <zsandu> owh, not sure how to interpret that.
[08:17] <Zipper2014> owh: I have a Lenovo IdeaCentre K410 Desktop PC. I have added a GeForce GTX 260 Graphics card to the machine.
[08:17] <Radon_3> saying hi from my ubuntu on my hard drive
[08:17] <Radon_3> thank you folks
[08:18] <owh> YAY!
[08:18] <Zipper2014> Radon_3: You got it to work?
[08:18] <Radon_3> not me man not me
[08:18] <Radon_3> I didn't get it to work
[08:18] <Speiros> bekks Yep, thanks.  I believe it is fully complete.  I think I can now log in.  Thanks to you and to all, and I wish I didn't have the brain mess that is preventing me from focussing on anything else at present except my existence...so your work is appreciated, you and all you volunteers, even if I am a rude mouth at times.
[08:18] <Radon_3> this channel super bros got it to work
[08:18] <dw1> Radon_3: cool
[08:19] <Kartagis> ikonia: if you are there and you remember my issue, my gfx card is Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[08:19] <Zipper2014> Radon_3
[08:19] <Radon_3> wow man.... un blievable
[08:19] <Zipper2014> Radon_3: Loose any data?
[08:19] <Radon_3> nothing is lost
[08:19] <Radon_3> at least that seems that way
[08:19] <Zipper2014> Radon_3: Awesome. =)
[08:19] <Radon_3> all is well
[08:19] <owh> We aim to please. Now back to work you lot.
[08:19] <Radon_3> even the freaking F-ed-up windows
[08:20] <Zipper2014> lol
[08:20] <keglevich> hey all...would someone maybe know if LTS 14.04 ISO's already contain "out-of-the-box" patched version of openssl or do I have to remove/update it after clean installation?
[08:20] <Zipper2014> Bill Gates goes well together... Dollar Bills and a guarded gate to prevent you to use other things.
[08:20] <Radon_3> I owe you people specially owh and dw1 big time
[08:20] <Radon_3> I mean it
[08:21] <Radon_3> bil gates is a totall sham, just a gov project, that I grantee
[08:21] <Radon_3> why in Washington, why not like everyone else in california?
[08:22] <Zipper2014> lol
[08:22] <Radon_3> or even NY city
[08:22] <Zipper2014> BTW, do you guys know what printers work best with Linux? I am thinking about ditching my Cannon.
[08:22] <Radon_3> but no, right next to the Washington's monument
[08:22] <Radon_3> anyways
[08:22] <owh> Zipper2014: It appears as if you can disable all of the EFI stuff within the BIOS. I've never had to - I run virtual machines on an OS X host.
[08:23] <Radon_3> I have took enough amount of your time dearest people
[08:23] <Radon_3> I won't waste it any more
[08:23] <dw1> later radon
[08:23] <dw1> or whatever :)
[08:23] <Zipper2014> Do you know where in the BIOS I can turn the stuff off at?
[08:23] <dw1> not a waste
[08:23] <owh> Zipper2014: I'm trying to find that for you.
[08:24] <dw1> owh: id probably freak out and delete every partition haha
[08:24] <DJones> Zipper2014: Its difficult to say what works best, I've had problems with Lexmark & Canon a few years back, for me, best results have always been HP printers
[08:24] <Zipper2014> dw1: What printers love linux? Canon does not.
[08:24] <Radon_3> the moment you get something to work is indescribable
[08:24] <Radon_3> see you fokls later
[08:24] <owh> dw1: Well essentially I did by doing a dd on /dev/sda, but that didn't seem to fix it.
[08:24] <Zipper2014> DJones: Awesome. Thanks.
[08:24] <dw1> Zipper2014: My Canon works ok
[08:25] <dw1> Zipper2014: Ubuntu has pretty good drivers
[08:25] <Zipper2014> DJones: When I buy printers, I have to have the all in one printers.
[08:25]  * owh prefers network printers.
[08:25] <Zipper2014> My problem is Canon Scnner does not work in Linux.
[08:25] <dw1> Zipper2014: try the program scangearmp
[08:25] <Zipper2014> This printer can be a network printer.
[08:25] <Zipper2014> I have tried them all with no luck.
[08:26] <dw1> Zipper2014: make sure its powered on :)
[08:26] <owh> Let's focus on the EFI issue shall we?
[08:26] <Zipper2014> Awww Thanks. I always keep things turned on. haha
[08:26] <Kartagis> anyway, can anyone help me with my gfx card? I've been googling about this issue for days now, asking here and in ##linux; and no help :(
[08:26] <dw1> Zipper2014: well come back later for that im sure it can be fixed :)
[08:26] <Zipper2014> owh: Just waiting on you to reply. So I think we're on the same page. =)
[08:26] <owh> Zipper2014: When you did the dd command, that was with /dev/sda was it not?
[08:27] <bekks> Kartagis: You have to tell us about the actuall issue before.
[08:27] <Zipper2014> owh: What are you seeking?
[08:27] <Zipper2014> Would you like me to retry it and see?
[08:27] <owh> Zipper2014: Before you started the re-install with me, I asked you to use a command "dd". Do you recall that?
[08:28] <Zipper2014> Correct.
[08:28] <Zipper2014> Let me find the Screen shot.
[08:28] <owh> Zipper2014: Do you recall if that was with /dev/sda?
[08:28] <FredddyTom> is it possible to update the music on an iphone from ubuntu?
[08:28] <FredddyTom> if so what software?
[08:28] <Zipper2014> I think you told me to use two /dev/sda1 & /dev/sda2
[08:28] <dw1> owh: right-click -> Delete in gparted should work :)
[08:29] <owh> dw1: Will that kill the EFI partitions and the partition map?
[08:29] <Kartagis> bekks: right. my issue is that every video on my system are played in slow motion. lspci -k doesn't list any drivers under gfx card, nor does lshw -c display. i915 is lited on livecd though, so I'm trying to figure out how to force i915 to be used for gfx card
[08:29] <dw1> owh: yup
[08:30] <bekks> Kartagis: So pastebin "sudo lspci -k" please.
[08:30] <Zipper2014> owh: We did both /dev/sda2 which did not work. And we did /dev/sda1 which did work.
[08:30] <owh> dw1: Zipper2014 installed Ubuntu using the Entire Disk. That would also have resulted in a full disk install would it not?
[08:30] <owh> Zipper2014: With the dd command?
[08:30] <Kartagis> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7371482/
[08:30] <owh> Zipper2014: Or with the mount command?
[08:31] <dw1> owh: i imagine it would skip certain partitions
[08:31] <dw1> owh: if they're specially marked
[08:31] <owh> Hrm
[08:31] <dw1> owh: like EFI
[08:31] <dw1> owh: but dont know
[08:31] <Zipper2014> owh: I actuially don't see dd.
[08:31] <Kartagis> bekks: lsmod lists i915 with a 0 next to it
[08:31] <owh> dw1: I've got a sneaking suspicion that the dd command was not done as I expected.
[08:32] <owh> Hold on Zipper2014, let me look back.
[08:32] <bekks> Kartagis: So it is loaded and you are using it.
[08:32] <Zipper2014> If you want, I can redo the DD commands.
[08:32] <Zipper2014> I really have nothing to loose.
[08:32] <owh> Zipper2014: It was this command: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
[08:33] <owh> Zipper2014: Hang 5.
[08:33] <Kartagis> bekks: but lspci -k doesn't list it, unlike under LiveCD
[08:33] <dw1> owh: that wouldnt write much, so prob didnt reach the other partition(s)
[08:33] <owh> dw1: If Zipper2014 did that dd command correctly, that should have wiped the partition map should it not?
[08:33] <dw1> owh: is the map stored up there? dont know
[08:33] <owh> dw1: If the map is gone, the partition doesn't exist any longer. Even if the data is there.
[08:34] <Zipper2014> Which means I will have to reinstall?
[08:34] <Kartagis> bekks: also, lsmod lists i915 with a 4 next to it under LiveCD
[08:34] <dw1> Zipper2014: perhaps once more
[08:34] <owh> Zipper2014: Yup. But hold on for a bit.
[08:34] <Zipper2014> No worries.
[08:34] <Zipper2014> Nature is calling again. brb
[08:34] <bekks> Kartagis: So which Ubuntu is it?
[08:35] <Kartagis> bekks: livecd or live system?
[08:35] <owh> dw1: If you boot into the LiveCD and then launch gparted and remove the partitions and then reboot and launch it again, we should be sure that the drive is actually empty right?
[08:35] <bekks> Kartagis: The system.
[08:35] <Kartagis> bekks: 14.04
[08:35] <Zipper2014> ok back.
[08:36] <owh> Zipper2014: Right-o. Boot the machine using the LiveCD. Boot into Ubuntu. Launch gparted. Take a screenshot and show us.
[08:36] <dw1> Zipper2014: does sudo gparted load a program
[08:37] <bekks> dw1: dont use sudo on graphical programs. USe gksu/gksudo instead.
[08:37] <dw1> bekks: oh yeah
[08:38] <dw1> http://askubuntu.com/questions/51572/why-should-i-use-gksudo-for-gtk-apps-instead-of-sudo
[08:38] <Zipper2014> cwh: dw1 http://tinypic.com/r/6edous/8
[08:39] <owh> Zipper2014: Delete each of them, starting from the bottom.
[08:39] <dw1> Zipper2014: unmount the ones with the Key first
[08:40]  * owh nods.
[08:40] <f3lix> Wondering why the virtual kernels don't seem to be updated along with the generic ones...?
[08:41] <owh> Zipper2014: When they're all deleted, Apply all Changes.
[08:41] <Zipper2014> dw1: cwh I deleted the last one first and tried to unmount the others.
[08:41] <owh> Zipper2014: What happened?
[08:42] <Zipper2014> owh: dw1 No worries. I will restart and do it over. Nothing was saved.
[08:42] <owh> dw1: Hey, /sda4 is a crypt-luks file system
[08:42] <owh> Zipper2014: Stop for a moment.
[08:42] <Zipper2014> owh: dw1 is this normal, the problems I am having with the installer?
[08:42] <owh> dw1: Uh, sda3 I mean.
[08:43] <owh> Zipper2014: It's been getting worse with EFI rubbish.
[08:43] <Sven_vB> after i plug my scanner into USB, it appears in "lsusb", but simple-scan reports "no scanners detected", i shall check whether it's connected (lsusb sees it) and it's powered on. usually, it is, doesn't even have a power switch. i pressed its only button "scan", too, in case that might have been remapped to power, no effect. any ideas?
[08:44] <owh> Zipper2014: Are the partitions unmounted?
[08:44] <owh> Zipper2014: The "Mount Point" will be empty.
[08:44] <dan314>  I have a processing.js script running and i want to add a javascript text input that would let me input an integer, that would then change a variable in the processing.js code. is this possible? because i know processing.js is server side while javascript is client side.
[08:44] <Sven_vB> also i ran simple-scan --debug but it prints no messages to the terminal
[08:44] <Zipper2014> They are not? I do not see a key by them.
[08:45] <owh> Zipper2014: Your screenshot shows that. Show us a new one.
[08:45] <dw1> owh: hmm
[08:45] <owh> dw1: Not sure I want to go down that rabbit hole at this point.
[08:46] <Zipper2014> owh: dw1 Here is what I see now: http://tinypic.com/r/28sms6c/8
[08:47] <jjweintraub> (apologies  because I know this, but I am testing IRC for first time) how do I install windoze?
[08:47] <owh> Zipper2014: Hang 5.
[08:47] <Aki-Thinkpad> !windows
[08:47] <owh> dw1: Do you agree?
[08:48] <dw1> owh: with?  i dont understand why its like that
[08:48] <jjweintraub> !cookie
[08:48] <dw1> owh: usually only /home, on unencrypted filesystem, is encrypted :/
[08:48] <CornishPasty> !cake
[08:48] <CornishPasty> :(
[08:48] <dw1> owh: if you choose that option....
[08:48] <Sven_vB> CornishPasty, it's a lie
[08:48] <Aki-Thinkpad> ha ha ha
[08:49] <CornishPasty> Sven_vB: Apparently, ubottu just PMed me to tell me it doesn't know about cake
[08:49] <dw1> owh: never seen a whole partition encrypted :)
[08:49] <CornishPasty> PM, not notice... :/
[08:49] <owh> dw1: I'm *guessing* that the installer installed an encrypted file system. I think that the root is /dev/sda3, but I don't really want to deal with booting and mounting from within a chrooted environment. Do you?
[08:49] <dw1> owh: i dont even know how to access it
[08:50] <Zipper2014> owh: dw1 I am hanging in there: Http://tinypic.com/r/f4nz86/8
[08:50] <owh> dw1: That makes two of us. The install is brand new. I'm going to recommend removing the partitions and starting again. It's a big hammer approach, but less chance of error.
[08:50] <owh> Zipper2014: Yeah Baby!
[08:50] <dw1> owh: yeah
[08:51] <owh> Zipper2014: Delete the partitions, starting from the bottom.
[08:52] <Zipper2014> cwh: dw1 This is what I see now: http://tinypic.com/r/sq4m1g/8
[08:53] <owh> Zipper2014: Excellent. From the Edit menu select "Apply Changes"
[08:53] <Zipper2014> owh: dw1: Already done.
[08:53] <dw1> Zipper2014: now just boot/install again
[08:53] <owh> Zipper2014: Reboot and launch the gparted tool again.
[08:54] <owh> No dw1, check first.
[08:54] <Zipper2014> ok
[08:54] <owh> Zipper2014: Don't install, reboot and relaunch gparted.
[08:54] <dw1> owh: you da boss :)
[08:54] <Zipper2014> I rebooted.
[08:54] <Zipper2014> I did not install anything.
[08:54] <owh> Zipper2014: Now launch gparted again.
[08:54] <owh> Zipper2014: Is the drive still unallocated?
[08:55] <Zipper2014> owh: It is still unallocated.
[08:55] <owh> Zipper2014: Now you can install.
[08:56]  * owh needs some comedy.
[08:56] <Zipper2014> owh: I do still hear a beeping noise when my PC loads, no keys are being pressed.
[08:56] <mvbemmel> owh: watch jimmy fallon
[08:57] <owh> Zipper2014: What kind of beeping?
[08:57] <Zipper2014> owh: When the PC starts it beeps once.
[08:57] <owh> Zipper2014: It's called a POST beep. It's supposed to do that.
[08:57] <Aki-Thinkpad> hey, what happened to gksudo?
[08:57] <Aki-Thinkpad> is ubuntu using something else now?
[08:58] <owh> mvbemmel: Might just have to do that.
[08:58] <gac> are there APT repositories for old releases? i have an internal-access only system running natty and I need a package, but would prefer to avoid having to do any OS upgrades (because everything works and it's internal only)
[08:59] <f3lix> gac: sure, they're all kept online
[08:59] <gac> have the URL handy? I can find old-releases which has the ISOs for old versions, but can't seem to find links to old APT repositories
[09:00] <dw1> Zipper2014: if it beeps lots, thats bad.  once is ok. :)
[09:00] <f3lix> Ah, you mean you need a repo for an older release than the one you're running?
[09:00] <_Rocky_> Hi, I get a low res icon for emacs24 in the application switcher. It is such an eyesore. I am trying to fix it. So far I have found that it has nothing to do with the /usr/share/applications/emacs24.desktop entry since I get a good hi res icon when I open emacs from the application menu. I only get the low res version when I open emacs from the command line.
[09:00] <owh> gac: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[09:01] <_Rocky_> Also I have looked around in the internet and found solutions like deleting all the low res icons from /usr/share/icons folder relating to emacs. Though I dont think this is a good solution
[09:01] <Zipper2014> owh: dw1 I think it like to whistle at me. Hotness doesn't come easy. lol j/k
[09:01] <dw1> Zipper2014: :o
[09:01] <_Rocky_> I there a way to find out the location of the icon that the app switcher is using and also where I can change this?
[09:01] <owh> _Rocky_: It is in the icon file for the application.
[09:02] <owh> Uhm sorry, _Rocky_, the desktop file I mean.
[09:03] <Zipper2014> cwh: dw1 Is this a bug or what, when I go to install the OS, I have to "Try Ubuntu", then install it once, then exit and then reinstall it agains. (Well start the install).
[09:03] <_Rocky_> owh: Thank you for the reply. Like I said, if I open the link from the applications menu, which takes the desktop file for openning things I get the good icon. Its only when I open emacs from the terminal or the Alt + F2  that I get the low res icon
[09:03] <_Rocky_> Is there a way to find out how ubuntu picks up the icon if an app is opened from the terminal?
[09:04] <owh> Zipper2014: What do you mean "install it once".
[09:04] <owh> _Rocky_: Ah, do you mean, the icon shown in the panel differs if you launch it differently?
[09:04] <Zipper2014> owh: dw1 When I go to install Ubuntu 14.04, I have to restart the process because page 2 of the install always get stuck.
[09:04] <Zipper2014> After that, it works.
[09:05] <_Rocky_> owh: Yes. Though not in the panel. The application switcher overlay that you get when you do a Alt + Tab.
[09:05] <owh> Zipper2014: That sounds like a "feature", but what is page 2 of the installer?
[09:05] <owh> _Rocky_: Have you got two desktop files for the application? One in the standard location and a local copy?
[09:06] <Zipper2014> owh: It is the one where it ask do you want to download the updates while installing and do you want to install third party drivers.
[09:06] <dw1> Zipper2014: hmm, weird, but maybe not critical
[09:06] <owh> gac: Did that solve your problem?
[09:06] <_Rocky_> owh: No. I dont have any desktop files in the .local/share/applications folder
[09:07] <owh> _Rocky_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/207369/low-res-emacs24-icon-in-application-switcher
[09:08] <_Rocky_> owh: I have already visited that link. The solution they mention is to delete all the lower res icons like 16x16, 32x32 etc
[09:08] <owh> _Rocky_: Yes, and leave the scalable one.
[09:08] <_Rocky_> owh: I want to explore better solutions to that before I resort to that. Shouldnt the system pick up the best one automatically?
[09:09] <dw1> owh: I guess its full disk encryption as seen here: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/11/privacy-ubuntu-1210-full-disk-encryption -- ive only ever encrypted the /home and its unlocked with my pasword...
[09:09] <Radon_3> folks, you wouldn't kill me if I told you I messed up?
[09:10] <dw1> Radon_3: whatd you do lol
[09:10] <_Rocky_> owh: btw, I am using an icon theme which only has the svg for emacs. Yet I get this problem. I am unsure which theme folder its picking up the icon from.
[09:10] <dw1> Radon_3: fortunately stabbings cant occur over the net
[09:10] <Zipper2014> cwh: dw1 Do you guys know if heartbleed bug has been patched in Unbuntu or not?
[09:10] <Radon_3> I installed nvidia property drivers and now all I get is a blinking cursor
[09:10] <dw1> Zipper2014: yes it was patched immediately
[09:10] <owh> Zipper2014: If you're up to date, yes.
[09:11] <Zipper2014> owh: dw1 Last I checked I was up to date on my rabies. I think I am good then.
[09:11] <dw1> Radon_3: ctrl-alt-f1 will get you to terminal where you can uninstall them :)
[09:11] <Radon_3> ztrl+alt+f1 gives me nothing
[09:11] <Radon_3> I tried
[09:11] <owh> _Rocky_: Does this happen with the Default theme?
[09:11] <Radon_3> But can't get it to work
[09:11] <_Rocky_> Yes
[09:11] <dw1> Radon_3: ok ctrl-alt-f2?
[09:11] <Zipper2014> Radon_3: What graphics card do you have?
[09:11] <_Rocky_> owh: Yes
[09:12] <Zipper2014> I have a Nvida GeForce GTX 260.
[09:12] <Radon_3> ctrlok, I am going for it, but if I get there how can I uninstall it?
[09:12] <dw1> Radon_3: should just do apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:12] <owh> _Rocky_: Have you looked for a bug report?
[09:12] <_Rocky_> owh: Is there way in which it would fall back to the default theme even if I have a different icon theme in use?
[09:12] <Radon_3> ok
[09:12] <owh> _Rocky_: Sure, if there is a missing icon.
[09:13] <_Rocky_> owh: I think there were 2 bug reports
[09:13] <dw1> Radon_3: well if you cant get to terminal you can either go to recovery mode, chroot and remove, or livecd, chroot and remove
[09:13] <owh> dw1: Radon_3 is not with us any longer.
[09:14] <dw1> owh: may not be so easy to remove a proprietary driver either.......
[09:14] <f3lix> Radon_3: You can boot without loading the nvidia driver by adding "modprobe.blacklist=nvidia-current" to the kernel parameters in grub
[09:14] <owh> _Rocky_: Do they give hints as to what's going on?
[09:14] <f3lix> Oh yeah, gone :)
[09:14] <Zipper2014> lol
[09:14] <dw1> f3lix: he may have downloaded a .run file.. hard to say
[09:14] <_Rocky_> owh: Nope
[09:14] <f3lix> :D
[09:14] <f3lix> true dat
[09:14] <owh> _Rocky_: Links?
[09:15] <pratz> hello guys
[09:15] <f3lix> Anyone knows why -virtual kernel images don't seem to get updates alongside the -generic ones?
[09:15] <owh> f3lix: I'd ask on #ubuntu-virt
[09:15] <f3lix> thanks!
[09:16] <pratz> I am using ubuntu 14.04 with guake + tmux + vim, when I copy large text from system clipboard and try to paste to vim, vim hangs
[09:16] <_Rocky_> owh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/993261
[09:16] <pratz> I figured out the work round - just copy some small text again and every thing works fine
[09:16] <Radon_3> nope, negative on ctrl+alt+f1,f2,f3, and f4
[09:16] <pratz> so, I guess something is wrong with system clipboard manager
[09:16] <dw1> Radon_3: how did you install proprietary?
[09:17] <_Rocky_> owh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/387828
[09:17] <pratz> any one have faced this issue on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[09:17] <owh> _Rocky_: Did you try the suggested workaround?
[09:17] <f3lix> Radon_3: You can boot without loading the nvidia driver by adding "modprobe.blacklist=nvidia-current" to the kernel parameters in grub (if you didn't install the drivers manually)
[09:17] <Radon_3> an icon appeared on the top bar, I clicked on "install driver" chose the latest one from the list, hit install, waitd for download to complete, restarted the system
[09:18] <Radon_3> and boom got my screen blacked out
[09:18] <Zipper2014> Radon_3: When you have a moment, what graphics card are you using?
[09:18] <dw1> Radon_3: not a bad way to do it..
[09:18] <owh> Radon_3: Well at least it isn't running Windows. You gotta be happy with that.
[09:18] <adsfasfadsfasdf> Adran: ok
[09:18] <Radon_3> from the "additional Drivers" window
[09:18] <adsfasfadsfasdf> adam__: putting junk in there!
[09:19] <Radon_3> I forgot the command for getting the version of graphic card
[09:19] <dw1> f3lix: would it be the current.. or a specific version
[09:19] <_Rocky_> owh: The solutions mentioned there pertain to compiz wm. But I am using Mutter
[09:19] <Radon_3> $ lspci -nn | grep VGA
[09:20] <_Rocky_> owh: well, ubuntu uses mutter
[09:20] <dw1> Radon_3: what you might do is do that chroot thing again, then sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia\*
[09:20] <f3lix> dw1: Good question, guess if it doesn't work, he could take a look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/misc/ and try all of them :D
[09:21] <Radon_3> version of my graphic card: http://tny.cz/4ac01125
[09:21] <WolfLambert> First time chatting from a fully Windows-free laptop.
[09:21] <WolfLambert> Ubuntu is awesome.
[09:21] <owh> _Rocky_: So this bug report doesn't relate to you then.
[09:21] <f3lix> WolfLambert: Congrats :)
[09:21] <owh> WolfLambert: Congratulations and welcome!
[09:22]  * Jabo pats WolfLambert on the back
[09:22] <Guest62991> (away)
[09:22] <Zipper2014> cwh: dw1 f3lix What driver command will I use for GeForce GTX 260 (Nvida)
[09:22] <_Rocky_> owh: Yes. The issue is the same. But I am using a different wm. I havent found any specific bug report for mutter
[09:23] <dw1> Zipper2014: probably just apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:23] <dw1> Zipper2014: always works for me
[09:23] <dw1> Radon_3: saw my msg?
[09:23] <Radon_3> chroot thingy?
[09:23] <Zipper2014> Radon_3: dw1 Are you a gamer?
[09:23] <dw1> Radon_3: yep
[09:23] <Radon_3> trying it.
[09:24] <Radon_3> sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt   and then sudo chroot /mnt, right?
[09:24] <owh> Radon_3: And the other mount bits too.
[09:24] <dw1> Radon_3: few more things.. @ http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd but stop after the chroot dont do any grub stuff
[09:24] <dw1> I'll have to make a pastebin for that or something :)
[09:25] <Radon_3> are the bindings necesary?
[09:25] <gac> owh: yep, looks like it should do the trick, thanks
[09:25] <dw1> Radon_3: yeah
[09:26] <dw1> Radon_3: not critical if just uninstalling.. but better safe than sorry :)
[09:26] <owh> _Rocky_: I'm unsure how to help you further. If it were a problem I had, I'd create a bug report for it. Link the report to the one you showed me.
[09:26] <Zipper2014> cwh: dw1 Does it normally take like 20+ minutes to install Ubuntu 14.04?
[09:26] <dw1> Zipper2014: sounds about right
[09:26] <_Rocky_> owh: I will do that then. Thank you.
[09:27] <owh> _Rocky_: I understand that it doesn't fix your issue directly, but I'm not sure what else to suggest.
[09:27] <dw1> Radon_3: actually you could just do apt-get purge instead of remove --purge :)
[09:28] <dw1> Radon_3: nvidia\*
[09:28] <Radon_3> it says nothing is installed, nothing is removed
[09:28]  * owh is going to have a meal and bid you all farewell.
[09:28] <_Rocky_> owh: This really does look like a candidate for a bug report. I think this has something to do with how icons are chosen for the app. We tried our best. Cheers.
[09:28] <owh> _Rocky_: Yup
[09:29] <dw1> Radon_3: Radon_3 nothing in sudo dpkg -l | grep nvidia  ?
[09:29] <dw1> Radon_3: youre in the chroot ?
[09:30] <Radon_3> my mistake, 4 packages are being removed
[09:30] <Radon_3> all done, good to go?
[09:30] <dw1> Radon_3: :)
[09:30] <Radon_3> yes I am in the chroot
[09:30] <Zipper2014> dw1: What are you going to eat?
[09:30] <dw1> Zipper2014: that was owh
[09:30] <dw1> Radon_3: yep reboot or try your luck now with nvidia-current
[09:30] <kensama> hi
[09:31] <Radon_3> apt-get update -> apt-get install nvidia-current, got it.
[09:31] <Radon_3> in the chroot ofcourse
[09:31] <dw1> Radon_3: and if it dont work then purge again
[09:31] <kensama> can someone could tell me what is the channel for french user please
[09:32] <DJones> kensama: #ubuntu-fr
[09:32] <Radon_3> is this probably gonna work: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers?
[09:32] <kensama> DJones thanks
[09:32] <dw1> Radon_3: thats not a ubuntu site
[09:32] <dw1> Radon_3: use the ubuntu packages for best results
[09:32] <dw1> Radon_3: like nvidia-current
[09:32] <Radon_3> I mean the xorg part
[09:33] <dw1> Radon_3: the packages should do it all
[09:33] <dw1> Radon_3: no need to mess around
[09:33] <Radon_3> alright
[09:34] <Radon_3> the problem with the nouveau was that my mouse kept getting disappeared, and messages were not clean, also some parts of the screen were not where they were supposed to
[09:35] <dw1> Radon_3: yeah i had weird things happening until i installed nvidia-current..
[09:36] <root> hjhj
[09:37] <Zipper2014> I just want to cry and bang my head on the wall. It did not work. Same error message "Error 1962: No Operating System Found".
[09:37] <dw1> Radon_3: Zipper2014 on boot press F2 and go into the BIOS, and change the boot mode from Secure or EFI to Legacy, perhaps
[09:37] <dw1> Radon_3: sorry not for you
[09:38] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: seriously? What is the issue man? did you do as dw1 and owh told you?
[09:38] <Radon_3> grub-pc worked super amazingly for me
[09:40] <Zipper2014> dw1: All I see is SATA 1: HD, SATA 2: Empty, SATA 3: CD/DVD Drive & eSATA1: Empty.
[09:40] <dw1> Zipper2014: there should be other pages
[09:40] <Zipper2014> Radon_3: I have been doing as told. I am very happy to hear yours works. I am not so luck.
[09:41] <Radon_3> I don't know, I actually didn't finger the MBR a lot. I prefer not to suggest anything cause I am only a tiny beginner
[09:41] <Zipper2014> dw1: In my BIOS I see, Main, Devices, Advanced, Power, Security, Startup and exit.
[09:42] <dw1> Zipper2014: look for something like boot mode thats set to Secure of EFI and change to Legacy
[09:42] <dw1> Zipper2014: prob under Startup
[09:42] <dw1> Zipper2014: or Advanced
[09:43] <G__81> Is there a way to install ia32-libs in Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[09:43] <Zipper2014> Advanced only shows me "CPU Setup".
[09:43] <Zipper2014> dw1
[09:44] <Rory> G__81: What are you trying to do that needs it?
[09:44] <G__81> Rory, for setting up android development
[09:44] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: do you have a pripheral thingy in BIOS? try there
[09:44] <Radon_3> "peripheral" something
[09:44] <G__81> Rory, i have installed 64 bit and the tutorials show that package is needed. How do i install it?
[09:44] <Rory> G__81: Generally you install the 32-bit version natively now with "sudo apt-get install packagename:i386"
[09:44] <Rory> G__81: Tutorials for 14.04? ia32-libs hasn't been around for a while now
[09:45] <nodedfree> G__81, sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[09:45] <Guest65677> I have a problem here.. pls.. help me.. how to fix this E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:45] <dw1> Zipper2014: keep looking there arent that many options..
[09:45] <G__81> Rory, the tutorials talk about version 12.04 so how do i set up the same in 14.04
[09:46] <Rory> G__81: There's a tutorial for 14.04 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639611
[09:46] <Zipper2014> dw1: What am I looking for again?
[09:46] <Rory> G__81: You can't assume a tutorial for version X of ubuntu will also work in version Y
[09:46] <Rory> Guest65677: Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[09:46] <dw1> Zipper2014: Boot mode: change from Secure or UEFI to Legacy
[09:47] <Rory> Guest65677: Paste the command you ran, and the full output
[09:47] <dw1> Zipper2014: http://google.com/images?q=bios+boot+mode
[09:47] <lionrouge> hi
[09:47] <lionrouge> how to turn off recently used files in panel?
[09:47] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: UEFI EFI or something like that, Legacy... basically you want to tell your bios how to load your MBR, mine is set to legacy first
[09:47] <paulus68> what is a good program to sync ipod under ubuntu
[09:47] <lionrouge> when i change it in system parameters it is just ignored
[09:47] <dw1> Zipper2014: maybe in Security is where you turn off Secure Boot
[09:47] <G__81> Rory, yeah exactly as you say i cannot assume. i am just trying to setup android-app dev in 14.04
[09:48] <Zipper2014> I see no UEFI nor EFI Nor legacy.
[09:48] <Rory> G__81: That guide looks solid
[09:48] <Rory> lionrouge: You may have to log off and on again for the changes to take effect
[09:48] <Rory> lionrouge: Or possibly just restart unity with the "unity" command
[09:48] <lionrouge> Rory, already tried
[09:48] <lionrouge> no effect
[09:49] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825112.aspx
[09:49] <Rory> lionrouge: What version of Ubuntu?
[09:49] <Radon_3> http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E20881_01/html/E20891/gltde.html
[09:49] <lionrouge> Rory, 14.04
[09:49] <Zipper2014> dw1: Under Security, all I see is a way to password protect my BIOS, that is all.
[09:49] <Rory> lionrouge: System Settings -> Security and Privacy -> Files & Applications (tab) -> "Record file and application usage" turn to "Off" and click "Clear usage"
[09:49] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: what is the model of your BIOS and motherboard?
[09:50] <g7> is there any good application to download music at ease
[09:50] <Rory> lionrouge: You will have to press Clear Usage, simply turning it to "off" will only prevent recent files from being recorded in the future
[09:50] <Zipper2014> Radon_3: dw1 I have a Lenovo IdeaCentre K410 Desktop PC. I have added a GeForce GTX 260 Graphics card to the machine.
[09:50] <Rory> g7: Google Play and Amazon are the two most obvious choices
[09:51] <g7> Rory: thanks
[09:51] <Rory> g7: Although they are websites, they are very easy
[09:52] <lionrouge> Rory, Clear Usage? How to do it? You mean to type "unity" in terminal with --reset option?
[09:52] <dw1> Zipper2014: look in the Startup tab
[09:52] <G__81> Rory, thanks i ll go through the guide and set it up that way
[09:52] <dw1> Zipper2014: set it like this https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaCentre-Desktops-Home-Servers/Force-K410-to-boot-from-disk/m-p/1078045#M5887
[09:53] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: also http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/desktop_pub/ideacentre_k430k410_hmm_20120627.pdf
[09:53] <Zipper2014> dw1: I see "Primary Boot Sequence", Quick Boot, Rapid Boot, Boot up Num-Lock Status, & Keyboardless Operation.
[09:54] <Zipper2014> F1 put me right back where I was.
[09:55] <TOSHIBA1> hello
[09:55] <dw1> Zipper2014: get the boot into legacy mode it has to be in there.
[09:55] <lionrouge> Rory, thank you i made it
[09:55] <Rory> No problem, glad I could help :)
[09:56] <g7> Rory: google play music is available in my country.. :(
[09:59] <Zipper2014> dw1: The links tells me a lot, but does not help me understand where to find something at. I do not see one thing you have told me to find. So should I just assume my machine is broken?
[10:00] <Radon_3> all done
[10:00] <Radon_3> should I reboot?
[10:00] <dw1> Zipper2014: i think if you can disable the secure boot and/or UEFI it'll boot into ubuntu.
[10:01] <Sven_vB> CornishPasty, bot errors via PM instead of notice might be due to audiences using strange clients. for example i'm using a derivate of xchat which displays notices not on the channel where i currently am, but on a channel where i and the bot are both joined. but not just any such intersecting channel, not even the most recently used, but the alphabetically first channel with me and the bot on it. which results in me not seeing notices in most
[10:01] <Sven_vB>  channels.
[10:01] <dw1> Zipper2014: or you can try re-installing windows then ubuntu after
[10:01] <Zipper2014> dw1: I have looked through everything in my BIOS and I do not see anything that comes close to what you want disbaled.
[10:01] <Rory> g7: What about http://www.7digital.com/ ? This really isn't Ubuntu-specific
[10:02] <dw1> Zipper2014: its in there for sure
[10:02] <Radon_3> ok, going to reboot
[10:02] <Zipper2014> dw1: Well I am very sorry to say, my eyes do not see anyhthing there.
[10:02] <dw1> Zipper2014: the forum post mentions the exit page what about that one
[10:05] <Zipper2014> dw1: The exit page only shows the following: Save Changes and Exit, Discard Chnages and Exit, & Load Optimal Defaults.
[10:06] <dw1> Zipper2014: the forum link is a support specialist for your exact computer telling him how to put the boot mode into legacy... so makes no sense
[10:07] <Radon_3> ok, still a blinking cursor
[10:07] <Radon_3> didn't help
[10:07] <dw1> Radon_3: :(
[10:07] <dw1> Radon_3: ctrl-alt-f1?
[10:07] <Radon_3> what?
[10:07] <Radon_3> ctrl+alt+f1 not working either
[10:07] <dw1> Radon_3: need link again ?
[10:07] <Radon_3> not even f2
[10:08] <Radon_3> for chroot?
[10:08] <Radon_3> no
[10:08] <Radon_3> link for chroot?
[10:08] <Radon_3> I have it
[10:08] <nodedfree> ctrl + a + d
[10:08] <Radon_3> I only need the command to remove nvidia
[10:08] <dw1> Radon_3: sudo apt-get purge nvidia\*
[10:08] <Zipper2014> So I am looking at 2-3 hours just to create the build of a repair DVD?
[10:10] <dw1> Zipper2014: the lenovo rescue disk also requires legacy boot mode........
[10:10] <dw1> Zipper2014: look again....
[10:11] <Radon_3> any hints on how to get nvidia to work? no pressure
[10:11] <dw1> Radon_3: you could mount the drive and check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see the error
[10:12] <Zipper2014> dw1: I will install Linux Mint and see if it will install. If it will, I will try to install Ubuntu one last time before I find another OS. I am trying my best to give this my all, but I can only give so much down time.
[10:12] <dw1> Zipper2014: well you have no EFI so EFI boot wont work you need Legacy
[10:13] <Zipper2014> dw1: =) Have no idea what that is. Even the link has been dumb founded.
[10:14] <dw1> Radon_3: after mount it would be /mnt/var/log/Xorg.0.log of course
[10:14] <dw1> Zipper2014: have someone else look at your bios for legacy options :)
[10:14] <Radon_3> brb
[10:15] <Safa_[A_boy]> Hello, My friend have a router with model "AE6000 Wireless Mini USB Adapter AC 580 Dual Band", and it is not working on 14.04
[10:15] <dw1> Zipper2014: you wont be able to boot Mint either witout changing that...
[10:15] <dw1> Zipper2014: its not the OS its the BIOS
[10:15] <dw1> Zipper2014: that is the problem
[10:16] <dw1> Zipper2014: you have no EFI partition
[10:16] <dw1> Zipper2014: therefore EFI is useless
[10:17] <Zipper2014> dw1: Will keep that in mind.
[10:17] <dw1> Zipper2014: have to disable it in bios
[10:17] <Zipper2014> k
[10:18] <alhosni> I bought   AE6000 Wireless Mini USB Adapter AC 580 Dual item  But I found that Ubuntu 14.4 does not recognize it  This output is lsusb
[10:18] <alhosni>  ubuntu@ubuntu-HP-xw4600-Workstation:~$ lsusb Bus 002 Device 004: ID 03f0:0024 Hewlett-Packard KU-0316 Keyboard Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c018 Logitech, Inc. Optical Wheel Mouse Bus 002 Device 002: ID 2001:f103 D-Link Corp. DUB-H7 7-port USB 2.0 hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root
[10:18] <cfhowlett> !patience|alhosni
[10:19] <WiredSlash> alhosni, update your drivers
[10:19] <Zipper2014> alhosni: I would look at the fourms and the help one, but the "ask ubuntu" does not seem fruitful.
[10:20] <WiredSlash> alhosni,  askubuntu.com
[10:20] <alhosni> They told me that it is possible to find a solution here
[10:21] <cfhowlett> alhosni possible, yes.  But not instantaneous.
[10:22] <aneks> does anyone know what the latest unity update was for?
[10:22] <alhosni> If you wait until I find a solution to that problem with the system that Windows recognizes it all publications
[10:23] <alhosni> http://www.linksys.com/en-mea/products/adapters
[10:25] <cfhowlett> !hardware|alhosni hardware manufacturers support windows with drivers.  FEW do so for linux.  Thankfully, coders and programmers are hard at work cracking, hacking and back-engineering every piece of hardware that linux works on.  Want a piece of hardware to work?   Demand linux support from the OEMS and don't purchase purchase products that lack this.
[10:26] <mahesh_>  /j #raspberrypi
[10:26] <cgt> I want to know how to block all IPv6 traffic for a specific user. Like this: http://serverfault.com/questions/236721/bind-process-or-user-to-specific-ip-linux, only it drops traffic for the user instead of using a specific IP (and of course for IPv6 instead of IPv4). I would be very grateful if someone would help me accomplish this.
[10:26] <mahesh_>  /j #linux
[10:27] <cgt> mahesh_: try without the prefixed space
[10:30] <junka> !thunderbird
[10:30] <junka> !info thunderbird
[10:31] <james0r2> having broken package issues with i use asian mirrors. is it common to have problems when using other mirrors?
[10:32] <cfhowlett> james0r "other" compared to  ... what?  Anyway, it happens.  mirrors drop for maintenance then pop back up later.  change the mirror or be patient.
[10:34] <Zipper2014> dw1: Does linux mint use the same installer as Ubuntu?
[10:34] <WiredSlash> Zipper2014, Nope
[10:34] <cfhowlett> !mint|Zipper2014
[10:34] <cfhowlett> Zipper2014 and it's not supported here.  go to their channel for your answers.
[10:35] <Zipper2014> cfhowlett: I am not here to promote or push anything nor am I seeking help. I just asked because I am trying to see if this install will work. If it does it will help me understand why Ubuntu 14.04 will not install.
[10:36] <cfhowlett> Zipper2014 understood.
[10:38] <james0r2> cfhowlett, using a chinese or vietnamese mirror for example opposed to the 'server in the United States' as described by synaptic for example.
[10:38] <Zipper2014> Does Virtualbox come preinstalled on Ubuntu 14.04?
[10:38] <babinlonston> I have installed Ubuntu 12.04, I have assigned a Manual IP Address for my Host using Bridge, I'm using KVM so i have to use Bridge for assigning same network range for Virtual machines, Now the issue is with my network ICON in status bar shows Disconnected always but Internet and network were working fine without any issue, While clicking on wired connection its shows as unmanaged, How can i fix this icon even my network was up and working fine.
[10:38] <james0r2> is there a place that tracks whether mirrors are up-to-date?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> james0r right.  even the USA and UK mirrors drop for maintenance.  Change to one that works and go for it!
[10:39] <babinlonston> Here is my network settings http://paste.ubuntu.com/7372096/
[10:39] <cfhowlett> james0r there's a command line to test mirrors, but I don't know of a databae ...
[10:39] <james0r2> cfhowlett, i just revered to the US mirror but it's slow out here in vietnam
[10:39] <g7> Rory: i can't find any free dwnload
[10:40] <cfhowlett> james0r USA?  come on man!   Look around!  LOTS of VN servers to choose from!
[10:43] <junka> Zipper2014, no
[10:43] <Zipper2014> junka: I almost felt lost in all the other text. Thanks for the answer. =)
[10:45] <Zipper2014> dw1: You're correct linux minty does not boot from HD.
[10:45] <Zipper2014> So do I need to reinstall windows?
[10:46] <WiredSlash> Zipper2014, Yes
[10:47] <Zipper2014> WiredSlash: Do I need to update windows or can I install it and then reinstall Ubuntu?
[10:47] <Guest22415> Anyone know why it says "You failed to identify in time for the nickname ......." ?
[10:48] <alhosni> How do I find a solution to the problem of lack of know minivans Router on Ubuntu 14.4
[10:49] <cfhowlett> Guest22415 because you failed ... type faster.
[10:49] <XSe7enX> YO
 what do you mean?
[10:50] <cfhowlett> !nick > XSe7enX
[10:50] <sebsebseb> Guest62991: yes
[10:50] <sebsebseb> wrong one
[10:50] <sebsebseb> guest22415
[10:51] <sebsebseb> oh  wel make that XSe7enX then,  not logged into account if that message
[10:52] <WiredSlash> Zipper2014, Install it and then reinstall
[10:52] <Zipper2014> Will it fix my bios issue?
[10:54] <Guest55924> HELLO
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> caps
[10:55] <dw1> Zipper2014: "How can I change the boot mode? There are two boot modes: UEFI and Legacy. To change the boot mode, start the BIOS setup utility and set boot mode to UEFI or Legacy support on the boot menu." http://tinyurl.com/kfc95x5 page 38
[10:56] <Zipper2014> dw1: Will installing windows help reset the bios?
[10:56] <S373N> TEST
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> S373N  it works, we see you
[10:56] <cfhowlett> S373N we see you.  ask your support questions
[10:57] <dw1> Zipper2014: no, but it may work with UEFI if you cant disable it
[10:57] <S373N> Thanks guys
[10:57] <dw1> Zipper2014: but you should be able to
[10:57] <S373N> do I need to register this username?
[10:57] <cfhowlett> S373N need?  no.
[10:57] <S373N> should?
[10:58] <cfhowlett> S373N up to you.
[10:58] <Zipper2014> dw1: I am laughing now and I think you. It is clear the last link had an error. You have to hold down the windows key + press F1. All I was being told was to press F1.
[10:58] <S373N> Does anyone know how to create your own network?
[10:58] <dw1> Zipper2014: You were in the right place before.  Windows key shouldnt be needed
[10:59] <cfhowlett> S373N ask in ##linux
[10:59] <dw1> Zipper2014: going to sleep.. disable UEFI and install Ubuntu. :) good luck
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> S373N  and / or ##networking
[10:59] <Zipper2014> dw1: So I can ditch this Windows install and follow the commands?
[11:00] <S373N> ok
[11:00] <jacob__> dwl: fast bios access disabled?
[11:01] <lemao> As of this morning I started seeing this on apt-get update: "W: GPG error: http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"
[11:02] <tommis> every time I try to boot new ubuntu server install I get a black screen
[11:02] <tommis> when I selected openssh during install it didn't show up on the network
[11:02] <cfhowlett> !badsig > cfhowlett
[11:02] <cfhowlett> badsig | lemao
[11:02] <Zipper2014> tommis: I was trying to use your screen as a mirror. Sorry for blocking your view.
[11:03] <tommis> Zipper2014: what
[11:03] <lemao> cfhowlett: why would that happen? This is a fresh ubuntu ec2 instance created yesterday night.
[11:03] <Zipper2014> tommis: I am being silly. It sucks when we have issues with things. But a laugh can help take some anger off the plate.
[11:04] <tommis> well I don't get it
[11:04] <Zipper2014> Oh well. =)
[11:04] <cfhowlett> lemao package change upstream and no one updated the sig's would do that.  When I've encountered it previously, it has self corrected given time.
[11:06] <lemao> cfhowlett: is there a way to manually fix this?
[11:06] <james0r2> was asking about checking status of mirrors. to anyone else that might be interested this site shows status https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[11:06] <cfhowlett> lemao it's an error upstream - nothing you can do. (as I understand it)
[11:07] <lemao> cfhowlett: ok, thanks.
[11:07] <cfhowlett> james0r good find!  thanks.
[11:08] <sebsebseb> doctorpepper: what's the worst that could happen
[11:09] <james0r2> cfhowlett, for sure. just realized some of the vietnam mirrors aren't for trusty though. China is close enough though.
[11:12] <anonymous> How to Ddos site and stop it ?
[11:12] <Timmy> I have installed tor and privoxy and I am using privoxy to forward socks connection on http, now I need to allow other devices on the network to forward their traffic on on privoxy installed on my machine. When they set their proxy settings on their machines, privoxy on my machine does not allow them to access the network and doesn't work. how should I allow their http requests on my machine?
[11:17] <doctorpepper> sebsebseb: some apps could misbehave.
[11:22] <sebsebseb> doctorpepper: no it's the saying that goes with your name :d,  but yeah maybe that
[11:32] <Guest88704> hi
[11:32] <cabbage4th> Has anyone tried Pantheon in ubuntu14.04? Want to know someone who did it without getting errors before getting it myself.
[11:33] <Guest88704> im having a problem connecting to Logitech wireless speaker bluetooth adapter
[11:33] <ikonia> cabbage4th: you'll have better responses if you just state the errors you get and ask for help fixing them
[11:33] <Guest88704> bluetooth is enabled at my laptop and pairing mode is on but I do not see any device
[11:33] <Guest88704> i can connect with my mobile though
[11:33] <cabbage4th> ikonia: Okay I'll just get it then report if there are problems. Thanks.
[11:35] <Zipper2014> Guest88704: What does pairing the cell phone do?
[11:35] <Guest88704> i pair my cell phone with the logitech bluetooth adapter
[11:36] <Zipper2014> Guest88704: So this is for a Bluetooth headset?
[11:36] <Guest88704> all audio is send to the bluetooth adapter. however adapternot found by my laptopt
[11:36] <Guest88704> the adapter can be plugged to speakers
[11:36] <Zipper2014> Oh nice.
[11:36] <Guest88704> when it works, yes
[11:36] <Zipper2014> lol
[11:36] <WLM|weg> Why is Ubuntu so awesome
[11:36] <jacob__> hello=
[11:37] <Zipper2014> WLM|weg: It would be if I can get mine installed. =(
[11:37] <cabbage4th> jacob__: hi
[11:37] <WLM|weg> Hi jacob__
[11:39] <jacob__> thanks works :)
[11:42] <jackbrown> hi
[11:42] <Feudster> Hello i have just installed the google web designer beta on ubuntu 14.04 lts and can not launch the application from the icon in the dash. It will run if i use this command /usr/bin/google-webdesigner . Is there a way to make it launch from the icon ?
[11:42] <jackbrown> anyone here?
[11:42] <bekks> jackbrown: According to "/names" the answer is "yes".
[11:43] <ShalokShalom> the installer writes GRUB to my sd card, if she is pluged in, while the installation
[11:43] <jackbrown> bekks: I have Mame problem  on my system here is the output when I launch mame  -verbose thanks https://www.privatepaste.com/7398440ebb
[11:43] <Kloked> Hello. I need to use a linux distro to run physics simulations. I used Suse for a while (1-2 years ago) but someone suggested not to. I heard a lot about Ubuntu and a bit about Mint. What should be the choosing factor here?
[11:43] <Zipper2014> To get my Bios where they need to be, what do I need to install to get to the UEFI and Legacy settings?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: this is ubuntu support
[11:44] <bekks> Zipper2014: You cannot install that - those are settings in your BIOS.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: so if you want support here then choose Ubuntu, the Mint support community is not as large as Ubuntu's
[11:44] <Kloked> ActionParsnip, Can't I ask for a suggestion? #linux requires registering.
[11:45] <ShalokShalom> Kloked: Hardware ?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: the choosing factor is simple. Which distribution will do what you need it to do?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: no idea why anyone would say to not use Suse, its not a bad distro
[11:46] <captine> hi all.  Anyone been able to get teamviewer to work on ubuntu 14.04.  Dependency lib32asound2 cannot be resolved??
[11:46] <ShalokShalom> Kloked: When you prefer KDE, i suggest you netrunner. That is a kubuntu with a better KDE Support and all the advantages from mint.
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> captine: i suggest you report a bug
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> captine: what is the pupose of using teamviewer, there may be a sleeker solution to what you intend to use teamviewer for
[11:47] <Kloked> ActionParsnip, I guess any of them will do, but I am mostly a Windows-based user and would like to know what is the main difference between suse and ubuntu. I also have an old PC, so...
[11:47] <Zipper2014> bekks: The problem I am having is, I do not see the settings.
[11:47] <captine> ActionParsnip, I want to remote support my folks in a different city.  They are not on ubuntu
[11:47] <ShalokShalom> Kloked: The main difference is different code
[11:48] <bekks> Zipper2014: Then you have to take a look at the BIOS manual.
[11:48] <ShalokShalom> when you are a windows and suse user, you prefer KDE.
[11:48] <ShalokShalom> When you prefer KDE, i suggest you netrunner. :)
[11:48] <Kloked> ShalokShalom, I want something minimalistic, but not so much that I will waste more time configuring stuff than working. =)
[11:48] <bekks> ShalokShalom: you can install KDE on almost every distro.
[11:48] <ShalokShalom> bekks: i know
[11:48] <Zipper2014> bekks: Does each BIOS have a model number and name? I am not that great with BIOS.
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> captine: makes sense then :)
[11:49] <Ben64> ShalokShalom: this is an ubuntu support channel, you probably shouldn't suggest stuff that isn't supported here without making that clear
[11:49] <ShalokShalom> Ben64: Netrunner is based on ubuntu, so the very most support works there too
[11:49] <Ben64> its still not supported here
[11:50] <ShalokShalom> bekks: the question is, how well the DE is implemented
[11:50] <ShalokShalom> Ben64: i never suggest this
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> why use a DE at all ;)   just use Fluxbox and be done
[11:51] <Zipper2014> What is Fluxbox?
[11:52] <sebsebseb> Zipper2014: old skool inteface
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> !fluxbox > Zipper2014
[11:52] <sebsebseb> quie popular still wit old skool people :d
[11:52] <Zipper2014> oh.
[11:52] <sebsebseb> quite above
[11:52] <Kloked> ActionParsnip, So, from what I've seen, any will do pretty much the same, as long as I do "normal" stuff, is that it?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Zipper2014: is a WM just like COmpiz but can run on it's own (compiz can do that too but takes some manual config) its super light and very configurable
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Zipper2014: its based on Blackbox
[11:53] <Zipper2014> OH ok.
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: pretty much, you'll need to see if your physics simulations will run in Ubuntu
[11:54] <Kloked> ActionParsnip, They're fortran based. I guess they'll run in any of these distros, right?
[11:55] <Zipper2014> How can I get my BIOS to show me the UEFI and Legacy settings?
[11:55] <Zipper2014> https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/desktop_pub/ideacentre_k4_ug_v2.0_aug_2012_english.pdf
[11:55] <Zipper2014> is my PC's manual.
[11:56] <yuri__> wc
[11:56] <Ben64> its probably delete,insert,f1-12 or something like that Zipper2014
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: no idea, if you can get fortran on Ubuntu then yes absolutely
[11:56] <jacob__> del on boot
[11:57] <Radon_3> alright, in an idiotic attempt to get nvidia drivers to run correctly on my ubuntu machine, I have run the following commands: which one of them could cause security or other problems in the long run? http://tny.cz/dbbff8da
[11:57] <Kloked> Ok, ActionParsnip. I suppose you have Ubuntu. Why did you choose it over other distros?
[11:58] <Zipper2014> Ben64: May I PM you?
[11:58] <Ben64> Zipper2014: just say it in the channel
[11:58] <Zipper2014> NP =)
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: depends on needs.
[11:58] <Zipper2014> Is there another way to access the BIOS that I am looking for other than delete + F1?
[11:58] <llutz> Radon_3: having a compiler (build-essential will install one) on a machine is always a possible security issue, but you'll need it for your drivers
[11:59] <Ben64> Zipper2014: well the manual you linked to has a BIOS section
[11:59] <Radon_3> llutz: what about the other commands?
[11:59] <Radon_3> I am using 12.04 LTS
[11:59] <llutz> Radon_3: nothing wrong with it
[12:00] <Zipper2014> Ben64: I know. But I am still stuck. I wished we had a BIO school. =)
[12:00] <Kloked> ActionParsnip, Hence, I wanted to know your needs, distro-wise.  Anyway, forget about that. Speed, stability and repository-wise, there is no significant advantage between distros, right?
[12:00] <Ben64> Zipper2014: stuck with what
[12:00] <llutz> Radon_3: "apt-get upgrade" is senseless if you run dist-upgrade after it, but no harm
[12:00] <Zipper2014> Ben64: The BIOS does NOT give me the settings I am requested ti change.
[12:01] <Ben64> Zipper2014: then you should maybe contact the vendor
[12:01] <Radon_3> llutz: thank you, by the way I need a command to purge all things nvidia, dw1 mentioned it earlier, but I didn't record it
[12:01] <tom__666> is there anyone who is an expert in nmap
[12:01] <urielvigilant> hello, i need to extrat emails from a website, take this example and tell me what it is wrong here :   wget -q -r -l 5 -O - http://www.olx.pt/servicos-cat-191 | grep -E -o "\b[a-zA-Z0-9.-]+@[a-zA-Z0-9.-]+\.[a-zA-Z0-9.-]+\b
[12:01] <Zipper2014> Ben64: Thanks for your time. =)
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> tom__666  find out by asking your question
[12:01] <urielvigilant> i take that from internet, because iam newby on linux
[12:02] <llutz> Radon_3: "<dw1> Radon_3: sudo apt-get purge nvidia\*" this?
[12:02] <tom__666> MonkeyDust: how do i scan a system using nmap
[12:02] <Radon_3> yup, that's the one
[12:02] <Radon_3> thanks
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: my needs are chat and web browse, so ubuntu works. I use xpud a lot these days too
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> tom__666  man nmap, to start
[12:03] <urielvigilant> ActionParsnip can you help me ?
[12:03] <Radon_3> so should I remove build-essential?
[12:03] <llutz> tom__666: more detailed http://nmap.org/book/man.html
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: so you will have a text file and you want to extract email addresses from the site?
[12:04] <urielvigilant> I did this command : wget -q -r -l 5 -O - http://www.olx.pt/servicos-cat-191 | grep -E -o "\b[a-zA-Z0-9.-]+@[a-zA-Z0-9.-]+\.[a-zA-Z0-9.-]+\b          , now on scren appear this signal > but i cant write nothing, where are the emails ?
[12:05] <llutz> urielvigilant: missing " at the end
[12:05] <Zipper2014> If anyone does know how to fix my BIOS settings, please let me know. =)
[12:05] <urielvigilant> wget -q -r -l 5 -O - http://www.olx.pt/servicos-cat-191 | grep -E -o "\b[a-zA-Z0-9.-]+@[a-zA-Z0-9.-]+\.[a-zA-Z0-9.-]+\b "               this ?
[12:06] <tom__666> MonkeyDust: thanks
[12:06] <Kloked> ActionParsnip, Thanks.
[12:06] <urielvigilant> ACtionParsnip where i find the file with the emails ?
[12:08] <urielvigilant> making this wget -q -r -l 5 -O - http://www.olx.pt/servicos-cat-191 | grep -E -o "\b[a-zA-Z0-9.-]+@[a-zA-Z0-9.-]+\.[a-zA-Z0-9.-]+\b"   , now only appear the cursor on screen . ?? where i see the emails ?
[12:08] <Ben64> that command doesn't make a file
[12:09] <urielvigilant> Can some one help me creating a command that work for that purpose ?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: wherever wget puts it....
[12:09] <Kloked> ActionParsnip, One more thing: any suggestions on desktop environment? (Remember I am Windows-based, so anything that keeps me from using Terminal is great.)
[12:09] <Ben64> "-O -" = output to stdout, it's not going to make a file
[12:09] <roel> hi. how can I get sound out Rosegarden, like piano?  Changing outputs at "Manage MIDI Devices" didnt help me.     Timidity ++ works great.
[12:10] <urielvigilant> Ben64 can you help creating one that work praticly ?
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> roel  #ubuntustudio is multimedia dedicated, better ask there
[12:10] <Ben64> urielvigilant: you can try #bash but i'm pretty sure its not going to work ever
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: a different DE will not mean you use terminal less.
[12:10] <tom__666> my nvidia graphic does not work well
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: KDE and Gnome are feature rich but use more resources
[12:13] <user_> hi
[12:13] <tom__666> user_: hello
[12:14] <user_> awesome
[12:14] <tom__666> User: are you new to this?
[12:14] <user_> yes
[12:15] <tom__666> User: me too.. :)  but this server will help you to solve your problem.
[12:16] <user_> great start loving ubuntu even more
[12:16] <WolfLambert> Hi everyone! I'd like to have a clock widget, anyone has a suggestion?
[12:17] <tom__666> User_: ask any question related to ubuntu, they will answer you instantly
[12:18] <Gallomimia> im trying to install nvidia drivers on a system that was once ati based graphics. the installer says run script as root with no xserver running. i can't seem to get a command line without a graphical session running. what is my first step?
[12:19] <Ben64> Gallomimia: installer? you should not be using an installer
[12:20] <Gallomimia> let me guess.. use it from the repos... again?
[12:20] <Ben64> Gallomimia: yep, thats what is supported, and its easier. whats the problem?
[12:21] <Gallomimia> may i have the package name sir?
[12:21] <k1l> Gallomimia: first remove the fglrx, then install the nvidi-current from the ubuntu repos.
[12:21] <Gallomimia> what if i want to put both boards in the system and run different displays on each board?
[12:21]  * Gallomimia slips in some crazy talk to see what will happen
[12:22] <Zipper2014> bekk: What do I need to disable in the BIOS?
[12:22] <LupoDeiCieli> Ciao a tutti :D
[12:22] <cgt> !it | LupoDeiCieli
[12:22] <tom__666> WolfLambert: try upclock
[12:22] <k1l> Gallomimia: i dont think that is an easy task for some average user
[12:23]  * humbag likes xdaliclock
[12:23] <Gallomimia> k1l: agreed. i cant even get the thing to install under raid/lvm
[12:23] <Gallomimia> how can i get mixed graphics cards to run stably?
[12:23] <Gallomimia> (hint the ati card was never stable)
[12:24] <Gallomimia> good thing i have this laptop to ssh in from
[12:25] <Gallomimia> how's 14.04? havent' tried it yet
[12:25] <k1l> its working
[12:25] <Radon_3> folks, is this http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-geforce-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/ recomended to install nvidia drivers? cause apt-get install nvidia-current only gives me a blinking cursor on a dark background
[12:25] <Gallomimia> sounds promising.
[12:25] <k1l> Radon_3: no. ubuntu offers some own nvidia drivers
[12:26] <Radon_3> Gallomimia: talking to me?
[12:26] <Gallomimia> i am about to attempt the command you said you didn't like
[12:26] <Radon_3> k1l: you talking about nouveua thingy right?
[12:26] <Gallomimia> k1l is it nvidia-current or nvidi-current
[12:26] <k1l> !info nvidia-current | Radon_3
[12:27] <Gallomimia> its a good !info yep
[12:27] <Radon_3> well I am trying nvidia-current for about 1.5 hours now and I only get a black screen after boot
[12:28] <k1l> Radon_3: you can remove that nvidia-current and try nvidia-310 or nvidia-319 instead
[12:28] <sasuke> hi guys,
[12:28] <Zipper2014> Radon_3: DO you remember what they said I need to disbale in the BIOS?
[12:29] <sasuke> can anyone help me how to configure ntp in server and client hosts
[12:29] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: you need to set it to legacy booting man
[12:29] <Radon_3> nothing to disable
[12:29] <Radon_3> k1l: tried those too
[12:30] <roel_> i dont get an answer from ubuntustudio :(
[12:31] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: you need to tell the bios to boot the media in legacy mode, that's what I remember
[12:31] <cfhowlett> roel got home  - wha tis your ubuntustudio question?
[12:32] <roel_> how can I get sound out Rosegarden, like piano?  Changing outputs at "Manage MIDI Devices" didnt help me.     Timidity ++ works great.
[12:33] <cfhowlett> roel never used r'garden.  sorry.
[12:33] <gingitsune> Hello
[12:33] <gingitsune> Just upgraded 13.10 -> 14.04
[12:33] <roel_> i did in the past. I made some somgs with it.
[12:33] <gingitsune> It boots to a black screen
[12:33] <Gallomimia> k1l: i still get a similar error message. something about unable to set stored mode on monitor such and such. lists a bunch of modes
[12:34] <Tiensbakung> roel_: only tried it once, I recall some thing about soundfonts, maybe you can search for that
[12:34] <gingitsune> I can youse the terminals, just the GUI arn't working
[12:34] <Gallomimia> on a gaining note, i can now use ctrl+alt plus Fkey to get a command line
[12:34] <cfhowlett> roel http://rosegardenmusic.com/support/     http://rosegardenmusic.com/resources/
[12:34] <roel_> i'll look
[12:34] <bipul> dhruvasagar, Hi
[12:34] <Gallomimia> login screen works fine. i get graphics and pictures and backgrounds
[12:35] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: I'm so sorry man, I kind of feel how you must be feeling ;(
[12:35] <Radon_3> gotta reboot
[12:35] <Radon_3> brb
[12:35] <gingitsune> Can anyone lend a hand? It seems a bunch of people on the web describe similar problems with the only solution seeming to do a fresh install on top
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: what GPU do you use?
[12:36] <roel_> i'll reinstall alsa mixer because of an error there.
[12:37] <mujhahid> Boa tarde
[12:37] <Romance> jihadist
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: or does the system have a make and model?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> Romance ask your ubuntu support questions here.  politics, insults go elsehwere.
[12:39] <gingitsune> ActionParsnip, no its a custome built desktop
[12:39] <Romance> cfhowlett oh sorry, i just replied to mujhahid, mujahid = jihadist
[12:39] <gingitsune> I figure the AMD APU is missing drivers
[12:40] <cfhowlett> Romance noted.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: so what GPU are you using?
[12:41] <gingitsune> The integrated one
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: ok, what is it?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: you can have an Integrated Intel GPU, or an Nvidia 6150LE onboard, like mine does
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: 'integrated' is not exact enough
[12:42] <gingitsune> ActionParsnip, i'm not sure trying to figure it out :)
[12:42] <gingitsune> I can say its AMD
[12:42] <PaRaD0xxR> hi, I was in here yesterday but had to run out. So if anybody responded, I missed it.  I'm trying to get gapcmon to load so I can monitor my UPS, but it hangs when I try to run it.  Either via term/CLI or the launcher.  I have no idea where to begin to diagnose it.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: boot to root recovery mode and run:  sudo lshw -C display      you will be toild
[12:42] <PaRaD0xxR> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[12:42] <bjorn_> hi, I installed xubuntu desktop package and now I would like to have the xubuntu startup and shut down screen as defalut. Is this easy to fix?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: usually, when you build a system yourself you kinda know this stuff
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: did you install the proproetary AMD video drivers?
[12:43] <gingitsune> ActionParsnip, its been a while. And i didn't build it for myself
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: drop to root recovery mode and uninstall the fglrx packages, then reboot then reinstall them#]
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: I'll assume you installed them
[12:46] <gingitsune> ITs a radeon HD 8470D, if that changes anything
[12:47] <roel_> I cant see "sound card properties" at "Asla" due to error (reported).
[12:51] <guest______> hello, still having problems with bluetooth adapter of fujitsu lifebook ah530
[12:51] <guest______> hcitool dev .. gives me a mac address
[12:52] <guest______> but cant find bluetooth device in lsusb, lspci or dmesg
[12:52] <guest______> also I cant find any other device with my bluetoothadapter
[12:52] <guest______> anyone havean idea how this might work
[12:52] <kikimeter> hi guys, where I can find information to make an ubuntu package ?
[12:53] <cateract> hello,
[12:53] <kikimeter> except on google :)
[12:53] <cateract> I
[12:53] <cateract> I've set mutt
[12:53] <cateract> but I'm not getting the list of my fetched mail
[12:53] <Pici> !packaging | kikimeter
[12:53] <cateract> though it says mails are flushed
[12:53] <kikimeter> thank you Pici
[12:54] <cateract> is there any other setting that needs to be done
[12:54] <cateract> before fetching
[12:54] <PaRaD0xxR> gapcmon was working fine until I tried to fix the show tray icon option, which wasn't working, I've removed and reinstalled it, and now I can't get it to load at all
[12:54] <cateract> I can send mails though
[12:54] <Gallomimia> how easy is it to install 14.04 onto a raid?
[12:55] <PaRaD0xxR> it works fine on a 2nd test system (w/o an actual ups attached)
[12:56] <prth|AFK> i setup a virtualbox vm of ubuntu 14.04 but my menu bar is still shown on the top most shell bar
[12:57] <prth> is anyone else facing such issue?
[12:57] <Rory> prth: Could you maybe show a screenshot highlighting what you mean? And explain how you'd like ot to look like
[12:58] <alexherbo2> Hi
[12:58] <Rory> It might not be an "issue" so much as just a personal prefernece
[12:58] <alexherbo2> Where is located ubuntu-mono-light theme?
[12:59] <junka> prth, i face this with all the apps on 14.04
[12:59] <junka> unless they are maximized
[12:59] <alexherbo2> want see background colour of panel
[13:00] <gingitsune> ActionParsnip, got it solved, thanks :)
[13:00] <alexherbo2> i dont use ubuntu at the time, but i want pick coulour for my i3 config
[13:00] <Tiensbakung> alexherbo2: /usr/share/themes?
[13:00] <alexherbo2> Tiensbakung: I use Exherbo
[13:00] <Gallomimia> can anyone help me install ubuntu on a raid5?
[13:00] <alexherbo2> no Ubuntu installed on my machine
[13:01] <alexherbo2> can you paste me the config?
[13:01] <Newton95> Hello
[13:01] <Gallomimia> hi
[13:01] <Tiensbakung> alexherbo2: sorry, running debian now
[13:01] <Newton95> Can i get Ubuntu irc membership ?
[13:01] <mgolisch> Gallomimia: you mean using software raid?
[13:01] <Newton95> in the group of users
[13:01] <alexherbo2> no problem
[13:01] <junka> I want too :D
[13:02] <Gallomimia> mgolisch: i can only assume that's the best way
[13:02] <Pici> !membership | Newton95
[13:02] <Gallomimia> the motherboard has some kind of raid feature. i assume that's "fakeraid" which is.... bad? i don't even know
[13:05] <Slart> Gallomimia: it usually is fakeraid if it's already on the motherboard.. ie if your motherboard breaks you'll have to get the exact same motherboard again or you might lose all your information
[13:05] <Gallomimia> that sounds happy
[13:05] <Gallomimia> software raid is my favorite!
[13:06] <Gallomimia> i haven't even built a raid yet and i already decided that
[13:06] <Slart> Gallomimia: oh.. and raid5 might not be in your best interest.. there are other configurations that have less problems
[13:06] <Gallomimia> what other configuration would i want with 3 identical drives?
[13:06] <Slart> Gallomimia: hmm.. what are you looking for? reliability or speed?
[13:07] <Gallomimia> yes.
[13:07] <Gallomimia> im sorry, it doesn't sound obvious from my terse answer. i value both equally
[13:08] <Gallomimia> plus i have a pair of ssd's i want to add with something called dm-cache
[13:09] <Slart> Gallomimia: hmm.. buy another drive to give you more options?
[13:09] <Slart> =)
[13:10] <Gallomimia> i did that. but they're not identical to the others
[13:10] <Gallomimia> oh well
[13:10] <Gallomimia> raid 10 you thunk?
[13:10] <Slart> Gallomimia: well.. give it a go.. but beware of the pitfalls
[13:10] <Gallomimia> there can't be any pitfalls. i can't even get past step 1 :P
[13:12] <Slart> Gallomimia: what was your question about raid? I didn't read your original question
[13:12] <Gallomimia> Slart: i want to install ubuntu on one
[13:12] <Gallomimia> i haven't even answered the question about what filesystem to use
[13:13] <Gallomimia> yet i can't get any install media to work and have the option to do so
[13:13] <Slart> Gallomimia: perhaps the server edition offers more options during install
[13:13] <Slart> !search raid
[13:13] <Slart> !raid
[13:14] <Gallomimia> is a server edition going to be any good at playing games?
[13:14] <mgolisch> you can install the desktop metapackage afterwards it will be just like the desktop edition
[13:14] <Slart> Gallomimia: afaik it's the same thing.. just you have to install the gui stuff yourself
[13:14] <Gallomimia> interesting
[13:14] <mgolisch> but i dont think the desktop editions installer allows for advanced installation options like installing on software raid
[13:15] <Gallomimia> aye it doesn't seem to
[13:15] <Gallomimia> more research on the fabled LVM first
[13:15] <Slart> Gallomimia: but I have to go make some dinner.. read the links ubottu mentioned.. perhaps try the install in a vm first if you're unsure of the procedure
[13:15] <Slart> good luck
[13:16] <Gallomimia> heh. vm is something i'd planned to learn next
[13:18] <Zipper2014> Gallomimia: Voice Mail (vm) is easy to learn.
[13:18] <Gallomimia> :)
[13:18] <Gallomimia> i hate voicemail. so much
[13:19] <Zipper2014> I do to. I answer it once a month.
[13:19] <Gallomimia> aw i cant do that i only get 3 spots in my inbox
[13:19] <Zipper2014> Why 3?
[13:20] <Gallomimia> cause the providers are crooks
[13:20] <locodir-user> Hi!
[13:20] <Gallomimia> and make believe that billing more money grants magical powers like having lots of inbox space
[13:20] <Zipper2014> Gallominia: If I may can ask, what country are you from?
[13:20] <Gallomimia> canada
[13:20] <Gallomimia> it's very very late
[13:20] <Gallomimia> 0620 in the morning
[13:21] <Zipper2014> And what provider do you have?
[13:21] <Gallomimia> shaw
[13:21] <Gallomimia> oh the cellular is virgin mobile
[13:21] <Zipper2014> Do you guys have Verizon?
[13:21] <Gallomimia> no
[13:21] <Gallomimia> only commercials for verizon
[13:21] <Zipper2014> AT& sucky T?
[13:21] <Gallomimia> no
[13:21] <Gallomimia> lots of commercials for those too
[13:21] <Gallomimia> there are no american providers whatsoever in canada
[13:22] <Gallomimia> they're illegal aliens.
[13:22] <Zipper2014> Well I have had Virgin moble in the past and was never mimited on voice mail.
[13:22] <Gallomimia> well i am
[13:22] <Gallomimia> its cheap tho
[13:22] <Gallomimia> i like it
[13:22] <Gallomimia> 40 bucks a month after tax and all features never an overage. i don't use strongly
[13:23] <Gallomimia> time for a dd
[13:23] <Zipper2014> If you're happy with it then go for it. =) But I know a lot of people are on tight budgets. So I can understand the need for something cheap.
[13:23] <Gallomimia> i just dislike voicemail
[13:23] <OerHeks> Gallomimia, Zipper2014 please keep this channel clear for support, join #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat thanks
[13:23] <Gallomimia> no visual display on who sent it
[13:23] <Zipper2014> I say that in a none judegmental and loving way.
[13:23] <Gallomimia> yeah why we talking about voicemail. i wanna install ubuntu on a raid
[13:23] <Zipper2014> lol
[13:23] <Gallomimia> especially now that ive ditched the amd card
[13:24] <Gallomimia> i also wanna install ubuntu on my phone. fxos is teh-suck
[13:24] <Zipper2014> Well I am trying to get Ubuntu to work. This is number 8 on the install.
[13:25] <rAg3> i am not able to import cer certificate for my vpn in network manager, how do i resolve this ?
[13:25] <Zipper2014> I am not sure what Ubuntu does with the installers, but mine is VERY wacky.
[13:25] <Gallomimia> i dislike the ubuntu installer greatly so far. but it is by far the best working one of any FOSS distro
[13:25] <Gallomimia> so, very difficult to complain
[13:25] <Zipper2014> What is a "FOSS Distro"?
[13:25] <Gallomimia> plus it's like free. so... there
[13:26] <Gallomimia> "foss" is free and open sourced software
[13:26] <Gallomimia> distro means flavor
[13:26] <Zipper2014> Got you. Well I am having issues with my PC not being able to boot from the installed OS.
[13:26] <Zipper2014> I am currently trying one last thing before I am at a lost.
[13:26] <Gallomimia> mine won't boot properly either. mostly cause i changed the graphics card
[13:27] <Zipper2014> I am kinda worried about the graphics. I have a Navdia GeForce GTX 260 card.
[13:27] <Zipper2014> Not sure if there is a good working driver or not.
[13:28] <Gallomimia> well i can tell you that it's better chance than nvidia
[13:28] <Gallomimia> er, ati
[13:28] <clue_h> Zipper2014, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia
[13:28] <Gallomimia> damn
[13:29] <Gallomimia> i should check this too
[13:30] <Gallomimia> aw mine's not on there :/
[13:30] <dw1> Zipper2014: i may have some idea of what to do now without changing the bios (which would be easier)
[13:31] <Zipper2014> Will boot repair help me any?
[13:31] <Zipper2014> dw1: Hubby looked at my bios and said I was in legacy mode. Which is why I was unable to see the other options.
[13:32] <dw1> Zipper2014: dont know about that.  your comp had EFI set up before so its prob. configured to boot from EFI
[13:32] <Guest48011> Hello, I am using Pinguy Linux 12.04 which is based off Ubuntu. I am hoping someone will be ale to help me. Updates are hanging 100% [Connecting to packages.medibuntu.org]
[13:32] <Guest48011>  And there is no pinguy help on xchat
[13:32] <OerHeks> Zipper2014, maybe the UEFI wiki is any help
[13:32] <OerHeks> !uefi
[13:32] <dw1> Zipper2014: so I think we need to create a new EFI partition and do that properly
[13:32] <OerHeks> Guest48011, pinguy is not supported here, it has its own issues
[13:33] <Zipper2014> OerHeks: Thank you. I will take a look. Even though I am starting to be all linked out. haha
[13:33] <OerHeks> Guest48011, medibuntu is dead for some time now
[13:33] <Zipper2014> dw1: Let me finish this one thing and if this does not work, we will go with your ideas. And thank you kindly for your time.
[13:34] <Guest48011> OerHeks, I see, thank you. I would like to go about the problem as if it were Ubuntu 12.04 and see what happens. Is there a way to get the updates to download from somewhere else?
[13:34] <OerHeks> Guest48011, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu , solution: install restricted extras
[13:34] <Zipper2014> dw1: Could one install an older version of Ubuntu and then upgrade from there?
[13:35] <Guest48011> OerHeks, thank you i will have a look
[13:35] <calvinmetcalf> upgrading ubuntu sever from 12.04 to 14.04
[13:35] <calvinmetcalf> getting errors ala Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en
[13:35] <rAg3> k]
[13:35] <calvinmetcalf> er 'Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en'
[13:35] <calvinmetcalf> followed by
[13:35] <calvinmetcalf> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/NgEUVGg3
[13:36] <dw1> Zipper2014: probably, if it cant be avoided
[13:36] <calvinmetcalf> this the right place for that
[13:36] <calvinmetcalf> * for help with that
[13:37] <dw1> Zipper2014: what you really need is an expert to guide with setting up UEFI system from scratch
[13:37] <dw1> Zipper2014: theres a lot i dont really know
[13:38] <Zipper2014> dw1: Well we can try what you do know. I mean I am not loosing anything. Other think needing to reinstall again.
[13:38] <dw1> Zipper2014: I believe it involves 1) EFI partition 200mb 2) GPT parition (unknown mb) 3) large partition for Ubuntu 4) another GPT parition
[13:38] <dw1> Zipper2014: i dont know any of it.. learning as I go
[13:40] <Zipper2014> dw1: Well I thankfully have one working PC and I have all my data backed up. So if it fails, well it fails. The only thing I ask is that I still have the option to install windows in the chance I may need it. I am personlly a linux lover, but games and linux can be a fun task.
[13:40] <Electron_Pulses> how to enable hibernate in ubuntu 14.04 32bit
[13:40] <bigred15> anyone installed ncmpcpp from git?
[13:41] <dw1> Zipper2014: then I would say install Windows first, and it will probably set up all the partitions too
[13:41] <Zipper2014> dw1: I am ahead of you. I did do that.
[13:41] <Zipper2014> But then I installed Ubuntu again.
[13:41] <syeekick> i have to keep stop and starting lightdm.. any ideas?
[13:41] <syeekick> iit freezes up
[13:41] <Zipper2014> And I it is all gone.
[13:42] <dw1> Zipper2014: ahh you needed to make a space for ubuntu ..
[13:42] <dw1> Zipper2014: not wipe the disk
[13:42] <Zipper2014> I always do a clean install. SO I delete windows and install the linux.
[13:43] <dw1> Zipper2014: you cant have both if you do that
[13:43] <Zipper2014> What do you mean?
[13:43] <dw1> Zipper2014: you can install windows first, then resize the main drive and install ubuntu in the space and have both
[13:44] <Zipper2014> Oh I am ok just having Linux.
[13:44] <Zipper2014> I could install windows in a VB
[13:44] <dw1> Zipper2014: that wont be as good for games tho
[13:44] <Joel> does anyone have a link to a doc talking about ubuntu 13.x and adding a self signed cert to openjdk 7's default keystore?
[13:44] <Zipper2014> dw1: The game I mainly play is wow. Which will work on linux. I use crossover.
[13:44] <dw1> Zipper2014: the underlying OS will take up a lot of power
[13:46] <dw1> Zipper2014: so you have ubuntu on now
[13:46] <dw1> Zipper2014: how are your partitions
[13:46] <Zipper2014> I installed Ubuntu 14.04. I am now running the Boot Repair thing.
[13:46] <dw1> Zipper2014: that might work
[13:46] <Zipper2014> And now I am about to see if this works.
[13:46] <Zipper2014> Well when it gets done.
[13:47] <Gape> Is there any way to check which account im using with ubuntu one? I can't find any indicator, but there is a popup that says my files were uploaded but they don't appear on one.ubuntu.com
[13:47] <Zipper2014> It does say "gksudo not found" and "gksu not found".
[13:47] <Zipper2014> In the command window.
[13:48] <dw1> Zipper2014: thats strage.. they should be there
[13:48] <Zipper2014> Will this boot repair fix that?
[13:48] <Gape> Also i'm running ubuntu 14.04 but I don't have locally integrated menus into windows, is there a way to enable that?
[13:48] <clue_h> dw1, same for me in 14.04, interesting as it is recommended to run gui things that need root privs with it and not sudo alone
[13:48] <dw1> Zipper2014: i think it might need them
[13:49] <xlusive> Hi Gape
[13:49] <Gape> nvm, i found the option for integrated menus
[13:49] <dw1> clue_h: ive got it, but upgraded from 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04
[13:49] <xlusive> great
[13:49] <Gape> But I'm still wondering about ubuntu one, is there a way to check what account I'm using?
[13:50] <bigred15> isnt Ubuntu One dead? or about to be dead?
[13:50] <Gape> Well in a month
[13:50] <dw1> Zipper2014: boot-repair shouldnt take very long
[13:50] <clue_h> supposed to be soon
[13:51] <dw1> only the cloud file storage and music store? are down.. One is still used for some other things i believe
[13:51] <dw1> going down*
[13:52] <dw1> but I uninstalled all the packages with no prob
[13:53] <junka> !12.10
[13:53] <junka> !eol 12.10
[13:53] <junka> !eol
[13:54] <PaRaD0xxR> hi, I'm trying to run gapcmon to monitor my ups, but it hangs (I have to control-c to get a prompt back) the terminal/CLI when I try to run it on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, any idea where to begin a diagnosis?
[13:54] <syeekick> i have to keep stop and starting lightdm.. any ideas?
[13:54] <PaRaD0xxR> I've tried the .deb and compiling the .bz2, and neither will open
[13:55] <PaRaD0xxR> gapcmon 0.8.9
[13:55] <dw1> Zipper2014: if youre getting that error you might need to run sudo apt-get install gksu so things work correctly
[13:55] <Zipper2014> dw1: Should I stop the repair thing and install the missing things?
[13:55] <dw1> Zipper2014: might as well
[13:55] <dw1> Zipper2014: it shouldnt take more than a minute or so
[13:56] <dw1> Zipper2014: probably much less...
[13:56] <nvrpunk> anyone else ran into memory leaks in Trusty on Gnome?
[13:56] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: you installed from the repository?
[13:57] <dw1> Zipper2014: boot-repair, that is
[13:57] <nvrpunk> I just had nautilus refuse to fork due to lack of memory, i have 12 Gigs
[13:57] <PaRaD0xxR> I thought so mgolisch, and I found a .bz2 also
[13:57] <PaRaD0xxR> it was working at first
[13:57] <Zipper2014> dw1: It will not allow me to install it.
[13:57] <Zipper2014> dw1: It says "Unable to locate package gksu.
[13:58] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: does it spit out any messages?
[13:58] <Zipper2014> dw1: Should I  try to restart the OS and try again?
[13:58] <dw1> Zipper2014: youre on a liveusb?
[13:58] <PaRaD0xxR> no, when I do /usr/bin/gapcmon from the CLI, the term just hangs
[13:58] <Zipper2014> Yes, I am on the Live OS.
[13:58] <syeekick> my lightdm freezes every now and then i have to enter a tty to restart liightdm with "sudo service lightdm restart"
[13:58] <dw1> Zipper2014: try sudo apt-get update first
[13:58] <PaRaD0xxR> when I try the apcups monitor via dash, the icon loads, but just blinks
[13:58] <PaRaD0xxR> and never actually opens
[13:59] <dw1> Zipper2014: then the install again
[13:59] <dw1> Zipper2014: reboot shouldnt change anything
[13:59] <Zipper2014> dw1: k
[14:00] <nvrpunk> syeekick: yeah sadly Trusty is still like Beta and not so much final
[14:00] <PaRaD0xxR> the show tray icon option wasn't working, so I found some site that advised to make hardlinks to the icons..or something, but that I noticed it stopped working after that, I've removed and then reinstalled, no dice
[14:00] <Zipper2014> dw1: Does the update take a while for you? It does for me. ABout 1 to 3 minutes or more.
[14:01] <dw1> Zipper2014: well if its the first time it ever ran it has a lot to download
[14:01] <dw1> Zipper2014: mirrors could be busy.  is your connection fast?
[14:01] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: what exactly did you change?
[14:02] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: and did you reverse that?
[14:02] <Zipper2014> dw1: I have 50/Mbps Download and 10/Mbps Upload.
[14:02] <dw1> Zipper2014: wow. :)
[14:02] <PaRaD0xxR> I'm kind of a noob with *nix, so I'm not positive...I can find what I did exactly if that'd help...
[14:03] <PaRaD0xxR> sudo ln ../icons/gapcmon/online.png online.png
[14:03] <PaRaD0xxR> like 5 of those, to diff icon files
[14:03] <PaRaD0xxR> trying to reverse that, I just replaced ln with rm
[14:04] <mgolisch> yeah
[14:04] <PaRaD0xxR> to all 5 or so lines
[14:04] <PaRaD0xxR> didn't work either before or after doing that
[14:04] <mgolisch> hm
[14:04] <PaRaD0xxR> it had been working..but I tried to mess with it
[14:04] <PaRaD0xxR> it loaded fine, then I did the ln thing....and then poof
[14:04] <dw1> Zipper2014: does sudo efibootmgr show an error?
[14:05] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: so are the links still there?
[14:05] <PaRaD0xxR> how do I check that?
[14:05] <Zipper2014> dw1: So you guys recommend HP for the best printer that works with Linux?
[14:05] <PaRaD0xxR> only been using ubuntu since Nov., so I'm noob-ish ;)
[14:05] <dw1> Zipper2014: dont know
[14:05] <Zipper2014> dw1: When this is done I will check and see. =)
[14:05] <PaRaD0xxR> coming from windows
[14:05] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: look in the directory you created them
[14:06] <PaRaD0xxR> not even sure what that command does
[14:06] <PaRaD0xxR> tbh
[14:06] <PaRaD0xxR> k, and look for what?
[14:07] <PaRaD0xxR> I think they're still there, I see all the png files in /usr/share/pixmaps
[14:08] <dw1> Zipper2014: are you in the graphical desktop
[14:08] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: maybe try to rm them
[14:08] <dw1> Zipper2014: or did you press ctrl-alt-f1/f2 for a full terminal
[14:09] <PaRaD0xxR> so now, they're in both locations
[14:09] <Zipper2014> dw1: I am using a graphical interface.
[14:09] <PaRaD0xxR> the website said to go to /usr/share/pixmaps, and run those ln commands
[14:09] <PaRaD0xxR> so where should I remove them from?
[14:09] <dw1> Zipper2014: k.  you could open a 2nd terminal if you wanted to go crazy... :P
[14:09] <mgolisch> where you created them
[14:09] <dw1> Zipper2014: still updating??
[14:10] <mgolisch> in /usr/share/pixmaps then
[14:10] <PaRaD0xxR> k
[14:10] <Zipper2014> dw1: The command sudo efibootmgr gives me the following error, "Comand not found".
[14:10] <mgolisch> but only those you created there
[14:10] <mgolisch> :)
[14:10] <PaRaD0xxR> lemme try that
[14:10] <PaRaD0xxR> so, rm all the png files in there then
[14:10] <dw1> Zipper2014: did you install with the encryption again?
[14:11] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: but only the ones your linked there
[14:11] <Zipper2014> For the home folder. Not the entire OS.
[14:11] <dw1> Zipper2014: nice
[14:11] <mgolisch> otehrwise many apps will miss their icons
[14:11] <mgolisch> :)
[14:11] <dw1> Zipper2014: that may help
[14:12] <PaRaD0xxR> well, right
[14:12] <dw1> Zipper2014: will full disk encrypted it makes it harder to access the files and do some repair things on hd OS from live OS
[14:12] <Zipper2014> dw1: When using the following command "Sudo apt-get install gksu" (Without the "") I get the same erro message.
[14:12] <dw1> Zipper2014: with*
[14:13] <PaRaD0xxR> k...getting somewhere
[14:13] <dw1> Zipper2014: ok.  but you installed boot-repair, and when you run it, the application loads and displays?
[14:13] <PaRaD0xxR> spit out some messages now
[14:13] <PaRaD0xxR> supposed I use paste.ubuntu.com, no?
[14:13] <PaRaD0xxR> hmm
[14:13] <Zipper2014> dw1: Let me make sure, but I want to say yes.
[14:13] <lawnewbie> anyone play Market Glory?
[14:14] <PaRaD0xxR> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7373185/
[14:14] <Zipper2014> dw1: The first box that pops up says "EFI detected. Please check the options.". I click on the "ok" button.
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> lawnewbie  wrong channel
[14:14] <dw1> Zipper2014: nice
[14:15] <lawnewbie> MonkeyDust: i just ask :3
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> lawnewbie  i just say
[14:15] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: so it now misses its icons, you said you enabled some tray icon mode or something, you probably need to undo that, acording to launchpad the package has been removed because this is broken
[14:15] <dw1> Zipper2014: just apply the recommended changes
[14:15] <lawnewbie> hahhahhaha :v
[14:15] <mgolisch> maybe you should try some alternate frontend or another monitoring suite like nut instead
[14:15] <Zipper2014> dw1: It then says "Recommended repair (Repairs most frequent problems) OR "Create Bootinfo summary".
[14:15] <PaRaD0xxR> yeah, but how do I disable that option, without being able to load it? :)
[14:15] <PaRaD0xxR> I can't get that to connect either ;)
[14:16] <dw1> Zipper2014: do the recommended and apply it
[14:16] <PaRaD0xxR> "error connecting to local host, errno 111, connection refused". when I try to load nut
[14:16] <lawnewbie> anyone has upgrade ur os?? :D
[14:16] <Zipper2014> dw1: This time I get no error message.
[14:17] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: it probably created some config file in a dot dir in your homedirectory
[14:17] <dw1> Zipper2014: hmm
[14:17] <dw1> Zipper2014: makes no sense but ok
[14:17] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: or under ~/.config/
[14:17] <endaras> Anyone know why i can't get a bash script to run as a keyboard hotkey?
[14:17] <Zipper2014> dw1: It said reinstalling something and now it seems to be working.
[14:17] <endaras> the command to run the script works fine in terminal
[14:18] <dw1> Zipper2014: sounds great
[14:18] <dw1> Zipper2014: reboot after :)
[14:18] <dw1> Zipper2014: without the live usb
[14:18] <PaRaD0xxR> hmm
[14:19] <PaRaD0xxR> just is annoying it was workign just fine for a while
[14:19] <Zipper2014> dw1: "An error occured during the repair: http://paste2.org/ntVO1X7c"
[14:20] <endaras> Anyone know why i can run a bash script in terminal no problem but if i use the same command as a keyboard hotkey the script doesnt run?
[14:21] <PaRaD0xxR> I swore I got those messages about missing icons before, even when it was loading....now I get those, and it won't open...hmm
[14:21] <endaras> scripts have 700 permissions
[14:21] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: because you enabled the tray mode, its incompatible with ubuntus new notification area
[14:22] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: youd have to remove whatever config file it saves that to
[14:22] <Debolaz2_> Has AUFS been removed from the Linux kernels in 14.04?
[14:22] <Zipper2014> dw1: It would not boot from HD.
[14:22] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: maybe check dconf-editor if you see any settings there
[14:22] <PaRaD0xxR> hrm..looking, not sure what to look for
[14:23] <dw1> Zipper2014: yeah, it wouldnt with an error
[14:23] <Debolaz2_> I've tried first linux-virtual, and then linux-generic... I can't get AUFS to work.
[14:23] <economicallyviab> can someone lend me a hand? Ubuntu will not save my monitor configuration for the life of me
[14:24] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: install dconf-editor and run it, then change /apps/gapcmon/controller/use_systray
[14:24] <Gallomimia> what is a useful filesystem for a raid5 from which i will boot, and pair with a dm-cache to twin SSDs (planning raid0)
[14:24] <economicallyviab> ive tried saving the config using catalyst control, the ubuntu display settings, ive tried the FOSS display drivers, whenever i reboot my monitors are wrong
[14:25] <mgolisch> Gallomimia: why do you want such a complicated setup?
[14:25] <Gallomimia> heard it would go fast :P
[14:26] <dw1> Zipper2014: back in live?
[14:26] <pchero> exit
[14:26] <Zipper2014> dw1: Yes.
[14:26] <Guest57880> o wkoncu xchat dziala
[14:26] <dw1> Zipper2014: open terminal and do #3-7 from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure with /dev/sda2 instead of /dev/sda1
[14:27] <Guest57880> o wkoncu xchat dziala
[14:27] <Gallomimia> i don't know anything about what filesystems are worth a hoot under raids and encrypted lvm
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Gallomimia: I dont belivee you will see much speed improvent with 2 SSDs in RAID0
[14:27] <dw1> Zipper2014: maybe we can fix it manually..
[14:27] <Guest57880> xchat i working \o/
[14:27] <PaRaD0xxR> mgolisch: I installed that, ran it, but I don't see gapcmon in the apps bit
[14:27] <Guest57880> any1 PL?
[14:28] <Gallomimia> it's been suggested i just use the two ssd's as separate caches
[14:28] <PaRaD0xxR> I also get this when I run that dconf-editor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7373289/
[14:30] <dubey> Hello
[14:30] <endaras> Can anyone help me with a problem where i can't get a bash script to execute as a keyboard hotkey?
[14:31] <dw1> Zipper2014: you can copy and paste just by highlighting the text and middle mouse button in terminal
[14:31] <dubey> I am using Ubuntu 12.04, 3.2.0-61-generic #92-Ubuntu SMP
[14:31] <endaras> the scripts have executable permissions
[14:31] <Gape> In startup applicatin, I use "/usr/bin/udisks --mount /dev/sdb4"  to mount sdb4 on startup. I want to add sdb3 as well, but if I add it as another command they previous one simply gets deleted (probably because it's similar). Any idea on how I could mount both partitions?
[14:31] <dubey> and since last week, not able to shoutdown or reboot my laptop. When i try to do so it seems to be logout and login screen comes again
[14:32] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: it probably uses the older gconf think, maybe you need to install gconf-editor and look there
[14:32] <dubey> I found some solutions like updating grub.cfg but it didn't fixed my problem
[14:32] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: alternatively you could edit the xml files manualy in ~/.gconf/apps/gapcmon/
[14:32] <mgolisch> if they exist there
[14:32] <Zipper2014> dw1: Working on it.
[14:32] <mgolisch> endaras: how did you set that up?
[14:33] <endaras> the keyboard hotkey?
[14:33] <PaRaD0xxR> yay, it's there
[14:33] <PaRaD0xxR> unchecked use tray...see if this works
[14:33] <Regz> join #prologin
[14:33]  * PaRaD0xxR crosses fingers
[14:34] <mgolisch> endaras: yes
[14:34] <burak> selam
[14:34] <PaRaD0xxR> yay!
[14:34] <PaRaD0xxR> thank you so much mgolisch!
[14:35] <endaras> the command in the keyboard hotkey is "bash ~/Desktop/Bash/decBrightness.sh"
[14:35] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: np
[14:36] <lawnewbie> anyone, i have a problem on my cheese webcam. it said one or more needed GStreamer elemets are missing:cluttervideosink
[14:36] <lawnewbie> anyone? :((
[14:36] <mAlzmci> hi
[14:37] <dyu> need help with ecryptf/fstab. this is how it looks like in /etc/mtab: /var/lib/.postgresql /var/lib/postgresql ecryptfs rw,ecryptfs_sig=dba5ed7952a1184d,ecryptfs_cipher=aes,ecryptfs_key_bytes=32,ecryptfs_unlink_sigs 0 0. i just put this into my fstab. /var/lib/.postgresql /var/lib/postgresql ecryptfs rw,ecryptfs_sig=dba5ed7952a1184d,ecryptfs_cipher=aes,ecryptfs_key_bytes=32,ecryptfs_unlink_sigs,key=passphrase:passphrase_passwd_file=/root/ecryptfs/postgresql,noauto
[14:38] <Tiensbakung> endaras: try abosulte path, /home/[user name/....
[14:38] <Zipper2014> dw1: On the update part. ABout to do the upgrade one.
[14:39] <lawnewbie> anyone, i have a problem on my cheese webcam. it said one or more needed GStreamer elemets are missing:cluttervideosink
[14:39] <dw1> Zipper2014: no need, you can stop at 7 :)
[14:39] <endaras> Tiensbakung: just changed it , still not working
[14:39] <mgolisch> endaras: i think you need to use absolute paths
[14:39] <mgolisch> endaras: i dont think ~/ works in that
[14:39] <Zipper2014> dw1: Now what do I do?
[14:40] <dw1> Zipper2014: sudo apt-get install grub-efi
[14:40] <endaras> mgolisch: yeah, just tried that still isnt working
[14:41] <mgolisch> endaras: works for me, is the file executable?
[14:41] <Zipper2014> dw1: Ok what now?
[14:41] <maheanuu> I have been using Ubuntu 12.04.2 and maintaining the upgrades for years,  It has gotten to the point where  am having serious problems and now  I am showing that I must restart my computer over and over again and nothing happens after the restart my litte gear in the upper rt. corner returns to red in about 10 minutes and the sequence begins again.  I could use some help or ideas please
[14:41] <Tiensbakung> endaras: try adding #!/bin/bash to the beginning of the script, not use bash [path-to-script]
[14:41] <mgolisch> endaras: you could test if its executed by placing something like "echo test > /tmp/test" into the script, then you can look if it created that file
[14:41] <endaras> Tiensbakung: thats what i have atm
[14:42] <endaras> mgolisch: yep they are executable
[14:42] <endaras> mgolisch: i'll try that now
[14:42] <Slart> maheanuu: it's hard to tell from just that description what might be wrong.. are there error messages in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log ?
[14:42] <dw1> Zipper2014: did it do something?
[14:43] <maheanuu> Slart, there is no error message
[14:43] <Zipper2014> dw1: Yes. It installed whatever that was.
[14:43] <dw1> Zipper2014: nice.  can you post the output of sudo efibootmgr to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:43] <Zipper2014> If I knew how to get to the main desktop.
[14:44] <dw1> Zipper2014: select text and middle mouse button on the site works good
[14:44] <maheanuu> Slart, sorry I didn't complete the read, let me open those and paste them to you, I am an older than dirt gnubie trying to stay afloat
[14:44] <endaras> mgolisch: ok when the scripts are run from the terminal they create the test file, but not from the shortcut
[14:45] <Zipper2014> dw1: I did Ctrl+Alt+F1 and I need out of this command.
[14:45] <dw1> Zipper2014: alt-f7
[14:45] <endaras> i'll paste the script and the keyboard shortcut
[14:45] <dw1> Zipper2014: ctrl-alt-f1 wasnt necessary could have done it all in GUI and saved a lot of trouble :)
[14:46] <dw1> Zipper2014: actually your irc is a separate computer so not much trouble
[14:46] <dw1> Zipper2014: would be easier to load the web page on working comp and have temrinal beside it :)
[14:46] <Zipper2014> Well the screen is gone now. How to I get it again?
[14:46] <Slart> !pastebin | maheanuu
[14:47] <Zipper2014> Slart: Give copy and past my best.
[14:47] <Zipper2014> dw1: So what do I do now?
[14:47] <dw1> Zipper2014: stay in graphic mode so you can paste
[14:48] <dw1> Zipper2014: open terminal and run sudo efibootmgr
[14:48] <dw1> Zipper2014: err actually that wont work
[14:48] <dw1> Zipper2014: its not the chroot environment
[14:48] <endaras> mgolisch , Tiensbakung this is one of the scripts and the keyboard hotkey info : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7373382/
[14:49] <dw1> Zipper2014: lets just go with a reboot from hd
[14:49] <dw1> Zipper2014: see if it worked
[14:49] <dw1> Zipper2014: then back to live-gui if necessary
[14:50] <Zipper2014> dw1: http://tinypic.com/r/2hdz247/8
[14:50] <dw1> Zipper2014: looks good
[14:50] <Zipper2014> dw1: So reboot?
[14:50] <dw1> Zipper2014: yep, and a small prayer
[14:51] <Tiensbakung> endaras: no need bash in the command for key shortcut, #!/bin/bash will do
[14:51] <Tiensbakung> endaras: also try different different shortcut
[14:51] <Zipper2014> dw1: It did not work.
[14:51] <dw1> Zipper2014: actually that efibootmgr entry wasnt what we needed
[14:52] <Zipper2014> dw1: ok
[14:52] <dw1> Zipper2014: that was the usb stick bootmgr
[14:52] <dw1> Zipper2014: i believe
[14:52] <Zipper2014> dw1: The USB stick runs and boots just fine.
[14:53] <endaras> Tiensbakung ok removed the bash and changed the shortcut still nothing
[14:53] <Tiensbakung> endaras: echo >> /tmp/test, to make sure new execution really not taking effect
[14:54] <endaras> yeah i am echoing "blaaa" to /tmp/test in that script
[14:54] <endaras> to test
[14:54] <dw1> Zipper2014: anyway not good :(  in live-gui open web browser and terminal, browse to http://tinyurlcom/ubchroot and only run #3 to 7
[14:54] <Scrivener> Alright, I have a question that spans multiple versions of Ubuntu. In multiple cases, I've gotten errors where it fails to do an upgrade due to low disk space on /boot. I google this and find this issue everywhere.
[14:54] <endaras> it creates the test file in terminal
[14:54] <endaras> not from shortcut
[14:54] <dw1> Zipper2014: http://tinyurl.com/ubchroot
[14:54] <Scrivener> I can't imagine this has gone without some kind of fix for all of this time, as there's no way grandma could really deal with this without help.
[14:54] <Scrivener> Is it just me?
[14:54] <Tiensbakung> endaras: it's working in the terminal, means, the way you create the shortcut is wrong
[14:55] <daninoz> hey guys, in chromium I have a problem with flash, it ask to install it but flashplugin-installer is already installed, what can i do?
[14:55] <Zipper2014> dw1: Is this the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure?
[14:55] <Tiensbakung> endaras: have no idea how you create the shortcut, you should try look on that
[14:55] <holstein> Scrivener: make the boot larger, or just do automatic partitioning
[14:55] <endaras> Tiensbakung i am creating them from keyboard -> shortcuts -> custom shortcuts
[14:55] <gp5st> hello. 12.04. when I eval `ssh-agent` and then do an ssh-add, I need to enter my password for my key. so far so good.  As I type my password, it appears on the screen! This hasn't happened before so I'm not sure what could be doing it. TERM is set to xterm and sudo doesn't show my password as I type it.
[14:55] <holstein> Scrivener: im quite sure grandma would just do the automatic partitions ;)
[14:55] <dw1> Zipper2014: yes but if you load it on the live-gui you can copy and paste
[14:55] <endaras> don't know any other way than that
[14:56] <mgolisch> endaras: thats what i used and it works for me
[14:56] <Zipper2014> dw1: Also, is it sda1 or sda2?
[14:56] <endaras> hmmm
[14:56] <dw1> Zipper2014: sda2
[14:56] <Tiensbakung> endaras: :-(
[14:57] <LucidGuy> anyone use/familiar with apt-mirror?
[14:58] <endaras> mgolisch any idea why it might not be working on my system?
[14:58] <Scrivener> holstein, I don't think I diverged from the default during install?
[15:00] <mgolisch> endaras: if you copy the path from the shortcut and execute it it works? like the path is correct?
[15:00] <endaras> mgolisch: yes
[15:01] <holstein> Scrivener: the default is all in one partition
[15:01] <Zipper2014> dw1: On the update part now.
[15:01] <holstein> Scrivener: one big system partition, and a swap
[15:01] <dw1> Zipper2014: stop at 7
[15:01] <Scrivener> holstein, oh, I checked the "use LVM" box during installation
[15:01] <Scrivener> I guess that was it then...
[15:01] <blarglblargl> hmmm
[15:02] <holstein> Scrivener: you can confirm by trying without checking that box
[15:02] <Zipper2014> dw1: Does the updates matter?
[15:02] <holstein> Scrivener: but, that still doenst confirm where the problem is
[15:03] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all
[15:03] <redhere> Hello, i've just upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04. After restarting, I get "error: symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found. Entering rescue mode...
[15:03] <dw1> Zipper2014: no just takes time
[15:03] <dw1> Zipper2014: paste the output of sudo efibootmgr to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:04] <holstein> redhere: you can try something simple like "sudo update-grub" from rescue mode.. though, recovering grub is usually both easy and safe
[15:04] <holstein> redhere: from live CD.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[15:05] <JokesOnYou77> I'm having a problem installing 14.04 server in a VM.  I tried VirtualBox and instaleld successfully, but couldn't get an internet connection, and when I try Gnome Boxes (QEMU) I get the error: failed to load nic-modules-3.13.0.24-generic-di failed for unknown reasons
[15:05] <Zipper2014> dw1: Http://tinypic.com/r/312vfjr/8
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> JokesOnYou77  in vbox, change NAT to bridged
[15:06] <redhere> Holstein, can i do that from a 13.10 live dvd, or i need the 14.04 disc?
[15:06] <holstein> redhere: the 13.10 live should work fine..
[15:06] <holstein> redhere: though, i would try the sudo update-grub command first, and look at the messages.. it could be easier than that
[15:07] <JokesOnYou77> MonkeyDust, Good idea! But then what the heck is going on with Gnome boxes?
[15:07] <G__81> i am running 14.04 and i experience a bug where the Libre office writer does not show the maximize, minimize and close buttons
[15:07] <holstein> redhere: looks like some customization in 13.10 is not able to find a file it needs now that 14.04 is updated
[15:07] <G__81> i see this behavior in the write application alone
[15:07] <redhere> Holstein, when i run that command from the grub rescue, it says no such command
[15:07] <redhere> It doesn't recognize sudo
[15:08] <holstein> G__81: i am not.. is that a bug? or do you have some customizations? does this happen from guest user?
[15:08] <dw1> Zipper2014: if we do it again only do 3-7 :)
[15:08] <holstein> redhere: sure.. whatever the equivalent for that will be in that mode
[15:08] <G__81> holstein, no customization default install with all updates installed
[15:08] <holstein> G__81: and, as guest user?
[15:08] <G__81> i didnt check that
[15:08] <Zipper2014> dw1: SO what's next?
[15:09] <dw1> Zipper2014: paste the output of sudo efibootmgr to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:09] <DarkSir> how can i use IRC only with the information which people talk about?
[15:09] <holstein> DarkSir: im not following your question, but you may be looking for #freenode, for questions about this network
[15:11] <Zipper2014> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7373523
[15:11] <Zipper2014> dw1:
[15:13] <dw1> Zipper2014: sudo apt-get install efibootmgr, then paste the output of sudo efibootmgr to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:13] <Joel> does anyone have a java cacerts that's more than 4k in size? du -hs /etc/ssl/certs/java/cacerts
[15:13] <Joel> I feel like I must be hitting a bug that my certs aren't getting added to java's key store
[15:14] <Joel> ubuntu 13.10
[15:14] <scotty^> So I booted the Raring Live CD today (for a test comparison), opened System Settings>Software & Updates, selected multiverse and universe, closed Software & Updates, closed System Settings, opened a terminal and ran sudo apt-get update.  I then reopened System Settings>Software and Updates.  Am I the only one that thinks that this looks a bit odd, possibly even misleading? - http://tinypic.com/r/1znrlmh/8
[15:15] <Slart> scotty^: huh? I must be missing something.. what is wrong?
[15:15] <holstein> scotty^: this? what specifically?
[15:15] <scotty^> Officially supported?
[15:15] <Slart> !13.04
[15:16] <scotty^> Oops, I mean "Officially supported"?
[15:16] <Zipper2014> dw1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7373547
[15:16] <Slart> scotty^: ooohh.. I see.. not really sure what they mean with that
[15:16] <scotty^> yeah, I'm wondering the same thing
[15:17] <Slart> scotty^: might just be part of the description of the cd.. but it might also be a bug... not really sure where that info comes from
[15:17] <Gallomimia> argh! what's the difference between zfs and xfs? they seem so similar
[15:17] <dw1> Zipper2014: oh, hmm
[15:18] <Slart> scotty^: have you tried running   sudo apt-get upgrade    as well? might be a new software sources package out that removes the "officially supported" thing?
[15:18] <scotty^> Does anyone still have a Raring hard disk install to check if it shows the same thing?
[15:18] <scotty^> Slart:  Ah OK, I'll try that, thanks.
[15:18] <mgolisch> Gallomimia: they are not at all, zfs is somekind of hybrid between a filesystem and a logical volume manager with raid capabilities and xfs is just a filesystem
[15:19] <mgolisch> Gallomimia: also i dont think zfs is a good choice for linux
[15:19] <Gallomimia> odd to read about
[15:19] <Gallomimia> is it not stable in the foss world/
[15:19] <holstein> scotty^: i read that as officially supported, as opposed to 3rd party applications or PPA's..
[15:19] <Gallomimia> boo to corporate inventions in the fs department
[15:19] <Zipper2014> http://tinypic.com/r/312iolv/8
[15:19] <Zipper2014> dw1:
[15:20] <mgolisch> Gallomimia: you might want to have a look at btrfs if you are in search for something with similar features to zfs
[15:20] <Gallomimia> mgolisch im still fretting over my extremely complex install planned. what fs to use for a bootable raid5 with lvm encryption :/ my head will explode before i pick one
[15:21] <Gallomimia> then i have questions to answer like extent sizes and block sizes and marvelously obscure reasons for said choices
[15:21] <eN_Joy> i have a fresh setup 14.04 server box, pretty much solely for my openvpn, over days I am seeing steadily increasing memory usage, i.e., when the system was up, the used memory is around  100M, each day when I check with `free -h` I am seeing about 100M increase, today is 900M, should I worry about this? and how do I find out which process is leaking memories?
[15:22] <mgolisch> Gallomimia: id consider using the raid only for data volumes, stuff on / is usualy not realy that important or can easily be recreated
[15:23] <mgolisch> Gallomimia: having the root fs on the raid makes stuff more complicated especialy if you plan to have /boot on that too
[15:23] <Gallomimia> i'm trying to gain speed in that department
[15:23] <mgolisch> so grub would need to construct the raid to actualy load the kernel image
[15:23] <Gallomimia> tho boot is less important than having programs and such run fast
[15:23] <SchrodingersScat> eN_Joy: memory being shown in free doesn't mean that it's inefficient, it's something about how linux uses it, preferring to use it than not.  I think there's a 'linux ate my ram' site that explains in detail
[15:23] <dw1> Zipper2014: in the chrooted terminal what does running this say: [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI"
[15:24] <mgolisch> now if you add other stuff like lvm and encryption ontop of that it will get realy complicated, id ask myself if realy want that, espcialy if your not skilled with those technologies
[15:24] <eN_Joy> SchrodingersScat: thanks
[15:24] <SchrodingersScat> !memory | eN_Joy
[15:24] <Gallomimia> cached is like free, but free is actually free, and cached has stuff well... cached.
[15:24] <Zipper2014> dw1: What is chrooted terminal?
[15:24] <Gallomimia> this looks good too
[15:24] <dw1> Zipper2014: the one you ran the commands in
[15:26] <SchrodingersScat> eN_Joy: that's not to say you can eliminate the chance of there being a problem, it's just a relatively common comment about free.
[15:27] <eN_Joy> yeah i'm reading the site, it does clarify something...
[15:29] <Zipper2014> dw1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7373668
[15:34] <dw1> Zipper2014: everything looks good to me... i think bios may have secure boot enabled or something that is blocking boot
[15:35] <eclerici2111> ciao
[15:35] <dwara> there ??
[15:36] <dwara> alienspy??
[15:36] <Zipper2014> dw1: Sadly, I am unsure then. I do know that I am not able to see any "special bios". With that said, the OS would not boot on the HD.
[15:36] <dw1> Zipper2014: there is just one bios
[15:36] <dwara> excuse me guys can some one help me out ????
[15:37] <dw1> Zipper2014: secure boot and UEFI are options in the bios that should be able to be turned on and off
[15:37] <Pici> dwara: You need to ask a full question for us to be able to help you.
[15:37] <dwara> how to develop apps for xfce ???
[15:37] <Zipper2014> dw1: None of which are options as far as I am able to see.
[15:37] <dwara> Pici:??
[15:38] <Pici> dwara: Have you asked in #xfce ?
[15:38] <dwara> Pici:yes
[15:38] <Pici> dwara: they would be the best people to ask
[15:38] <apfigueiredo> hi all
[15:38] <apfigueiredo> 14.04 hangs after login
[15:38] <apfigueiredo> it started happening today after update
[15:38] <apfigueiredo> does anyone else have this problem?
[15:39] <apfigueiredo> unity crashes
[15:39] <holstein> apfigueiredo: you can always try running the older kernel.. see if that was updated and helps with the issue..
[15:39] <apfigueiredo> I think the kernel was not updated
[15:39] <holstein> apfigueiredo: from what im reading, i might just try as the guest user, to test my user config
[15:39] <apfigueiredo> holstein: unity is the problem
[15:40] <apfigueiredo> that's a nice try
[15:40] <holstein> apfigueiredo: ok
[15:40] <holstein> apfigueiredo: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html will reset your users config for unity
[15:41] <dw1> Zipper2014: Zipper2014 maybe some boot-repair settings will fix it
[15:41] <redhere> After upgrading to 14.04, I'm able to login, but all I see is my wallpaper. Cannot open any application or the terminal using a hotkey.
[15:41] <dw1> Zipper2014: but you have to unmount the chrooted drive or reboot first
[15:41] <apfigueiredo> redhere: same here
[15:41] <holstein> apfigueiredo: and as the guest user? and after http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html ?
[15:42] <zerowaitstate> redhere: my office mate ran into the same problem.  you may have to kill the hidden folder that has your old unity/compiz config
[15:42] <holstein> redhere: you can also try http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[15:42] <apfigueiredo> holstein: I'll try this now
[15:44] <quint> i'm having trouble using apt-get install. dpkg: error processing linux-image-generic (--configure):
[15:44] <redhere> Holstein, how do i install that? I can't access Ubuntu
[15:44] <redhere> I am getting the same problem with the Guest session as well
[15:45] <holstein> redhere: you dont.. and, if you are getting to your desktop with no wallpaper, thats how you would install sometjhing
[15:45] <holstein> redhere: then, you likely have a larger system error..
[15:48] <redhere> Holstein.. So what should I do?
[15:49] <holstein> redhere: elaborate
[15:49] <holstein> redhere: get to a recovery prompt and run some basics.. disk checks.. memory checks.. etc
[15:50] <redhere> This was working perfectly under 13.10
[15:50] <redhere> I upgraded and now i can only boot to wallpaper
[15:51] <apfigueiredo> holstein: no... guest user doesn't work
[15:52] <apfigueiredo> holstein: I just installed enlightenment desktop
[15:52] <apfigueiredo> to have at least a window manager
[15:52] <apfigueiredo> it happened this morning during last ubuntu update
[15:52] <apfigueiredo> :)
[15:52] <apfigueiredo> :(
[15:52] <Zipper2014> dw1: I will be a few. Meanwhile, is Ubuntu ditching there Ubuntu One app?
[15:52] <apfigueiredo> compiz and unity reset didn't help too
[15:53] <xangua> apfigueiredo: those commands are deprecated, did you install Compiz Settings Manager and check the Unity plugin is enabled there¿
[15:54] <apfigueiredo> xangua, it was enabled, the only possibility is that it was forcefully disabled automatically during ubuntu upgrade this morning
[15:54] <Mixxit> hey guys
[15:54] <Mixxit> anyone know of anything on apt that is a web based geographical map that i can place hosts onto that will turn red if down or green if up (like network monitoring tool?)
[15:55] <apfigueiredo> xangua, but it doesn't make sense... anyway, I cannot start a unity session
[15:55] <xangua> apfigueiredo: what if you delete compiz config from your home
[15:56] <apfigueiredo> xangua, I made my first login as guest-session just to try and it didn't work
[15:56] <apfigueiredo> I could also try to create a new user and attempt to start unity, but I guess results would be the same
[15:57] <apfigueiredo> xangua, I'd like to try to restore the system state before last ubuntu upgrade, but I don't know if this is possible
[15:57] <Jonii> Yay, 14.04 works for me!!
[15:57] <apfigueiredo> did you guys try the last upgrade? was it ok?
[15:57] <Jonii> I'm so happy :')
[15:58] <Zipper2014> Jonii: I wished I had not misread your text. I though you said "I'm so hungry". Now I am hungry.
[15:58] <Jonii> Even though the installation process took a dark turn and I was sort of expecting it to fail due to 12.04 not working either, in just 24h I'm now a happy Ubuntu user on all my computing platforms
[15:59] <Jonii> Zipper2014: now I'm hungry. Brb ->
[15:59] <john_rambo> Is there any facebook app which works with 14.04 ?
[16:01] <xangua> john_rambo: if you mean facebook chat, empathy comes preinstalled
[16:01] <Georg> hi guys. could somebody help me with a hot(un)plug-problem? I get the failure message " SError: { RecovComm Persist PHYRdyChg 10B8B }" in dmesg
[16:02] <Georg> when I unplug
[16:02] <Jonii> Does Ubuntu 14.04 differ in any significant way from Ubuntu 12.04?
[16:02] <john_rambo> xangua: No.....I remember Ubuntu used to include an app for facebook .....Gwibber iirc
[16:03] <holstein> Jonii: yes.. newer packages, and updates.. other cusomizations.. try it live
[16:03] <Georg> of course the hdd was not mounted at that time and I put a "1" in /sys/block/sd[correct-letter]/device/delete
[16:03] <xangua> john_rambo: yes, it now called friends
[16:03] <xangua> !info | friends-app
[16:03] <Jonii> I haven been following Ubuntu ever since 12.04. I remember that there was this "Include online search results" button that caused anger, and I toggled it off. But other than that, this looks exactly like 12.04.
[16:03] <Jonii> holstein: I'm running 14.04 right now, as I just installed it yesterday
[16:04] <holstein> Jonii: check it out, and see the differences.. cheers!
[16:04] <Zipper2014> Jonii: Can I have your PC? You can have mine.
[16:04] <xangua> mmmm don't know why it doesn't show but is in trusty repositories john_rambo  , you also need to enter your facebook info in Online Accounts
[16:04] <Jonii> Zipper2014: sorry, I spend way too much money on this computer, I don't want to give it up :(
[16:04] <Georg> here are the dmesg entries. ignore the german text above the two blocks. the first block is after I put "1" in the delete file of the affected HDD and the second block is after I unplugged
[16:04] <dw1> Zipper2014: i might try those commands @ http://tinyurl.com/ubchroot 3-7 again (with /dev/sda2) in terminal then update-grub and/or grub-install ..
[16:04] <Georg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7373820/
[16:05] <Jonii> Why don't operating systems have hype videos that make all aspects of them look awesome? :/
[16:05] <tmager> they do
[16:05] <Jonii> I want to be hyped about Ubuntu 14.04, why is there no official or semi-official material to help me with that?
[16:05] <tmager> well make some, that's the beauty of community projects
[16:05] <dw1> Zipper2014: im seeing someone say just the installation of grub-efi doesnt install stuff completely.. but i know with other non-efi modes it does, so.. its a bit of a longshot
[16:05] <Jonii> OMG Ubuntu maybe, but they look so amateurish with their hype
[16:06] <apfigueiredo> ppl, last unity base update seemed to crash my unity desktop, is any way to revert this update back to the previous version?
[16:06] <holstein> !14.04
[16:06] <someHuman> Hello!
[16:06] <holstein> Jonii: what are you looking for? the press release?
[16:06] <someHuman> I get this kind of bug in graphics when I'm in Chrome.
[16:06] <apfigueiredo> unity doesn't start even for a newly created user
[16:06] <someHuman> Like my screen flickers?
[16:07] <someHuman> What do I do to resolve it? It doesn't happen often though, but still, it
[16:07] <someHuman> it's annoying*
[16:08] <someHuman> How do I set a memo with an alarm?
[16:08] <SchrodingersScat> someHuman: what are you using for the alarm?
[16:09] <someHuman> SchrodingersScat: No idea?
[16:09] <dw1> Zipper2014: boot-repair reports "Unusual EFI, please report" but also "has-correctEFI" so I don't know that it worked or not.  It may all be set up right just the BIOS is expecting Secure Boot when that's a brand new thing prone to error..
[16:09] <someHuman> SchrodingersScat: I am using Evolution I think?
[16:10] <Jonii> holstein: hype supplementary material. You know, where someone demonstrates a new feature and goes appropriately "Wow, this is so cool"
[16:10] <SchrodingersScat> someHuman: sorry, haven't used that, says it has a calendar in apt.  there is also alarm-clock which you can have it display a message
[16:11] <SchrodingersScat> !info alarm-clock | someHuman
[16:11] <dw1> Zipper2014: actually boot-repair did run grub-install so... dont know what else we can do
[16:11] <Jonii> Usually things have hype supplementary material for them, but I really don't know what's the actual word for them, so I just refer to them as "Hype supplementary material"
[16:11] <dw1> Zipper2014: maybe you have a special windows-only BIOS :-/
[16:11] <Zipper2014> dw1: I have an idea, but first let me try something here.
[16:12] <holstein> Jonii: try youtube.. or feel free and create what you like
[16:12] <SchrodingersScat> Jonii: swag?
[16:12] <Guest68348> ola
[16:14] <someHuman> I am trying to set an appointment via Evolution but I get this error http://imgur.com/FxeGAFv
[16:15] <helo> what should my sources.list be for oneiric?
[16:15] <helo> getting a lot of 404s with the current one
[16:16] <xangua> !eol
[16:16] <xangua> helo: upgrade to a supported ubuntu release
[16:16] <helo> don't have time, machine is shipping in 2 hours
[16:16] <dunkel2> hello
[16:17] <dunkel2> i just upgrade from 13.x to latest but now everytime i log in i see a message that says ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error
[16:17] <helo> oh well, i'll just slap a debootstrap chroot in there i guess
[16:18] <dunkel2> ?
[16:18] <dunkel2> i mean i can log
[16:18] <forgottenarcher> dunkel2: I prefer to do a whole reinstall rather than just just updating
[16:18] <dunkel2> oh i see
[16:19] <dunkel2> so i better reinstall it
[16:19] <dunkel2> and in the reinstall can i keep my files?
[16:19] <dunkel2> or i have to backup first?
[16:19] <forgottenarcher> these updates from  Major release normally break more stuff than they fix
[16:20] <Zipper2014> dw1: May I PM you?
[16:20] <chenqisu123> dunkel2: i think backup first is better
[16:20] <forgottenarcher> if you have a separate home partition then no need for a back up
[16:20] <forgottenarcher> but if you think that a whole, and complete reinstall is better then its probably safer to backup
[16:21] <dunkel2> ok great, thank you
[16:21] <forgottenarcher> your welcome :)
[16:21] <Jonii> dunkel2: does the system work properly though? I've been using 2 years this laptop of mine, which has had every couple of days this "12.04 has experienced internal error" message pop up, but there never was any problem other than having to close that error message window :p
[16:22] <dunkel2> yeah the system works perfect
[16:22] <dunkel2> is just that alert that is bugging me
[16:22] <dunkel2> if i close it everything works as it must
[16:22] <forgottenarcher> Jonii: how can you manage that, those things tick me of so much
[16:22] <forgottenarcher> dunkel2: same here
[16:23] <Zipper2014> dw1: Please note: This is NOT an advertisement or seeking support for this distro. This is solely being used as a source to my Ubuntu 14.04 problem. I just installed Zorin OS/Ubuntu 12.04 and I was able to boot from my HD from the installtion. Can you help me understand why I am unable to withy Ubuntu 14.04?
[16:24] <forgottenarcher> Zipper2014: could you be more specific on your problems ?
[16:24] <Zipper2014> forgottenarcher: Long story short, I am unable to boot from an install if Ubuntu 14.04.
[16:24] <holstein> Zipper2014: different hardware support from different kernels?
[16:24] <ruuth774> good evening
[16:24] <Jonii> forgottenarcher: closing one popup window every couple of days is not exactly a superhuman feat.
[16:25] <forgottenarcher> holstein: I think both Zorin and ubuntu are running the same kernels
[16:25] <holstein> Zipper2014: bad iso for ubuntu.. proprietary driver support included for graphics support from zorin
[16:25] <holstein> forgottenarcher: confirm that..
[16:25] <Zipper2014> Should I try to install Ubuntu 12.04?
[16:25] <holstein> forgottenarcher: if you are looking for details, dont "think" anything.. confirm
[16:25] <ruuth774> is there a GUI package to config settings on a logitech trackball mouse?
[16:25] <holstein> forgottenarcher: lots of distros pacakge proprietary drivers that ubuntu is not allowed to
[16:26] <holstein> !nomodeset | forgottenarcher
[16:26] <holstein> forgottenarcher: you can try nomodeset ^ from ubuntu
[16:27] <Zipper2014> With Zorin installed and working, do you think I will be able to get Ubuntu 14.04 installed and working?
[16:27] <ruuth774> im looking to set scroll on my logitech trackball on trusty, any handy tool for that?
[16:28] <holstein> Zipper2014: nothing about ubuntu is preventing that
[16:28] <forgottenarcher> yea I guess always learning thanks holstein
[16:28] <Zipper2014> holstein: Can you explain?
[16:28] <ruuth774> wich package can edit text on pdf files in ubuntu?
[16:29] <holstein> Zipper2014: sure.. your hardware manufacturer is always welcome to work with the open ubuntu community to make sure your hardware works with ubuntu
[16:29] <mgolisch> holstein: haha, which vendor does that?
[16:29] <holstein> forgottenarcher: i think i was reading this was your issue..
[16:29] <Zipper2014> holstein: How Zorin working and Ubuntu not working? It is using the same OS, just a different skin.
[16:30] <holstein> mgolisch: system76 for example.. many do these days.. intel.. etc
[16:30] <forgottenarcher> no, I was just trying to help Zipper2014
[16:30] <holstein> Zipper2014: as i stated above, when i thought forgottenarcher was having the issue, it could be proprietary drivers that are included in zorin that are not able to be included in ubuntu
[16:30] <holstein> Zipper2014: you can try nomodeset from ubuntu
[16:31] <holstein> Zipper2014: you can comfirm that the kernels are the same.. kernel differences can make or break hardware support..
[16:31] <Zipper2014> holstein: So I am pretty much SOL as far as being able to use Ubuntu 14.04?
[16:31] <forgottenarcher> Zipper2014: what kind of graphics card do you have ?
[16:31] <dw1> holstein: she gets "OS not found" on boot, and nothing seems to fix it
[16:31] <holstein> Zipper2014: ?
[16:31] <Zipper2014> holstein: Can you tell me where to find that info?
[16:31] <dw1> holstein: it makes no sense really
[16:31] <holstein> Zipper2014: i didnt say that at all
[16:31] <Zipper2014> forgottenarcher: I have a GeForce GTX 260.
[16:32] <holstein> Zipper2014: you could have a bad 14.04 image, or installation media... you could have a different kernel in zorin vs ubuntu.. you could have proprietary drivers in zorin that are not able to legally be included in ubuntu
[16:32] <ruuth774> im looking for a handy package to config my scroll buttons on a logitech trackball on trusty, any hints?
[16:32] <holstein> Zipper2014: you can make a list.. and start troubleshooting.. this can be challenging, i understand
[16:34] <holstein> Zipper2014: if 12.04 "just works", you may conisder just using it, since its still supported, and you may not need anything from the later versions.. you can try something like xubuntu 14.04, which may support your hardware "better"
[16:34] <therazr> Hi does anybody here use Ubuntu 14.04 in a baytrail platform?
[16:34] <dw1> Zipper2014: could try ubuntu 12.04 . its supported for a few years yet
[16:34] <Zipper2014> holstein: What command line do I use to see what Zorin is using?
[16:34] <holstein> Zipper2014: you can ask zorin.. but, in most linux its uname -0a
[16:34] <Zipper2014> Honestly, Zorin/Ubuntu 12.04 has some issues.
[16:34] <holstein> uname -a
[16:34] <ruuth774> !info gpointing-device-settings
[16:35] <Rdepablos> Buenas tardes
[16:35] <forgottenarcher> according  to distrowatch the current zorin 8 runs the kernel 3.14.2
[16:36] <Rdepablos> Amig@s necesito.una.pequel ayuda
[16:36] <forgottenarcher> ubuntu's running 3.13.0
[16:36] <therazr> forgottenarcher: no it doesn't. Where have you seen that?
[16:36] <Zipper2014> dw1: forgottenarcher holstein - Http://paste.ubuntu.com/7374114
[16:36] <holstein> Zipper2014: what is your goal for the machine? casual internet?
[16:37] <Zipper2014> Well I am a gamer. So I will be installing Crossover and playing wow.
[16:38] <holstein> Zipper2014: not likely.. thats not a "given"
[16:38] <cer> hi everybody!
[16:38] <holstein> Zipper2014: i suggest you do as you did when learning windows for years.. use native code
[16:38] <Zipper2014> holstein: What do you mean?
[16:38] <forgottenarcher> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=zorin
[16:38] <holstein> !steam | Zipper2014
[16:38] <forgottenarcher> look at the linux package
[16:39] <holstein> Zipper2014: i mean, those games and software provide and promise you windows support.. to move to linux and expect linux support is not always constructive, is never easy, and is sometimes/usually impossible
[16:39] <Zipper2014> holstein: Putting my gaming idea to the side, can you tell me if the kernerals match?
[16:39] <cer> I still have the same WB My Book 3TB which is USB 3 .... I connect it to my machine on a USB 2 port (because I do n ot have a USB 3) ....
[16:39] <mgolisch> if it sais os not found
[16:39] <forgottenarcher> holstein: take a look at that list
[16:39] <cer> the drive is recognised bu is not mounted
[16:39] <holstein> forgottenarcher: what list?
[16:39] <mgolisch> how is that related to kernels or graphics cards
[16:39] <mgolisch> sounds more like a boot issue
[16:39] <cer> is driving me insane .... I have googled to the end of the world and back.
[16:40] <holstein> !mount | cer
[16:40] <therazr> forgottenarcher: no man that number in brackets refers to the latest upstream stable version of it, not the latest one in the Zorin OS
[16:40] <forgottenarcher> the link I just posted
[16:40] <holstein> cer: you can try mounting in the command line, and see if you get any errors
[16:40] <Zipper2014> Do you think I can install Ubuntu 13.05 and go from that to 14.04?
[16:40] <therazr> the latest one is 3.11 for Zorin and 3.13 for Ubuntu 14.04
[16:40] <cer> holstein: well, we are a bit beyond that here ....
[16:40] <forgottenarcher> therazr: ohhhhh.....
[16:40] <holstein> cer: do you get errors?
[16:40] <cer> holstein: I get a strange error in dmesg
[16:40] <forgottenarcher> that just seems silly on there part thou
[16:40] <cer> holstein: Failed to bind enclosure -19
[16:41] <cer> holstein: never heard of this
[16:41] <therazr> Hi does anybody here use Ubuntu 14.04 in a baytrail platform like Asus T100?
[16:41] <sizzle> anyway to pass a parameter to getIndex in a controlller?
[16:42] <sizzle> 	public function getIndex($id = NULL)
[16:42] <dw1> Zipper2014: why not 13.10?  go back one at a time...
[16:42] <holstein> cer: you are using a custom kernel?
[16:43] <cer> holstein: no
[16:43] <dw1> Zipper2014: 13.10 has the added bonus of being supported.. for a couple months
[16:43] <cer> holstein: 3.11.0-20-generic
[16:43] <pseudonymous> Hi. I'm sitting with a canon lide 210. supposedly fully supported via SANE (an acronym I vehemently disagree with) but any variant of sane errs out with "invalid argument" without ever bothering to elaborate which argument that would be
[16:43] <holstein> cer: if it were me, i would fire up a live CD,and see if the thing mounted in there
[16:43] <Zipper2014> dw1: Due to wanting a LTS OS, I was hoping to be able to install and have running the 14.04 version.
[16:44] <cer> holstein: it mounts well under windows 7
[16:44] <Zipper2014> I have been able to also run Zorin 8. Not sure which version of Ubuntu that is.
[16:44] <holstein> Zipper2014: its not one.. if 12.04 worked "out of the box" i would use it
[16:44] <holstein> Zipper2014: have you tried xubuntu 14.04? or the nomodeset option i linked?
[16:44] <Zipper2014> Zorin uses Ubuntu as its main base.
[16:45] <cer> holstein: the most incredible thing is that if I reboot the machine with the My book attached, then it mounts perfectly
[16:45] <cer> holstein: it does not make sense!
[16:45] <Zipper2014> holstein: I have looked at the other "Ubuntu" ones and find them very tasetless in design. I like gui.
[16:45] <apfigueiredo> hope future upgrades fix my unity bug... until there I think I'll net to stick with another desktop session :(
[16:46] <holstein> cer: well, those are such fiddly errors that i always just account by knowing i was not promised linux support with the hardware.. have you experimented with other versions of the kernel? etc?
[16:46] <therazr> Zipper2014: whats your problem with 14.04 lts?
[16:46] <pseudonymous> anyway.. anyone have a clue where to begin with a scanner where you get "invalid argument" when attempting to scan (coming from SANE itself) ? It's fully supported so I don't get this
[16:46] <cer> holstein: nope ....
[16:46] <holstein> Zipper2014: the GUI, unity, can require something from your hardwrae that you cannot provide.. and games will need
[16:46] <mgolisch> cer: what exactly did you do?
[16:47] <Zipper2014> therazr: I am unable to boot from the installation. Once installed and restarted, I cannot boot from it.
[16:47] <holstein> Zipper2014: if you have no "good" 3d support.. you will not want to game on that machine
[16:47] <cer> mgolisch: connected it to the machine
[16:47] <mgolisch> i think the automount stuff doesnt touch anything thats in /etc/fstab
[16:47] <cer> mgolisch: it recognises it, but does not mount
[16:47] <Zipper2014> holstein: Crossover works great for me.
[16:47] <holstein> Zipper2014: crossover works in zorin.. or, 12.04
[16:47] <Zipper2014> Not sure on the 14.04 one though.
[16:47] <cer> mgolisch: but if I reboot with the device attached, it mounts it
[16:47] <therazr> Zipper2014: what is your graphics card?
[16:47] <cer> mgolisch: :(:(:(:(
[16:47] <Zipper2014> GeForce GTX 260.
[16:47] <alan_smith> hello there... I'm trying to install kubuntu or lubuntu on my machine but it's simply impossible, lubuntu boots from usb and installs, but won't boot from disk, even after purging nouveau and installing the proprietary drivers (using command line); kubuntu won't boot from usb. ubuntu boots from usb but i can't stand unity
[16:48] <Jonii> This may not be the right place to ask, but why is firefox asking me to "install" websites?
[16:48] <Jonii> Like youtube or reddit?
[16:48] <alan_smith> should i just try mint? i need a distro with apt and a decent desktop manager
[16:48] <therazr> Zipper2014: try to boot with the 'nomodeset' parameter
[16:48] <Jonii> Couldn find any documentation on such feature in the browser
[16:48] <holstein> cer: i would try some differenent kernel versions.. after applying all upgrades
[16:48] <holstein> alan_smith: desktop manager?
[16:48] <dw1> therazr: it just says No OS found... no grub
[16:48] <cer> holstein: I already have all the upgrade
[16:48] <Zipper2014> therazr: Can you explain what that is and when I go to install Ubuntu, what should I be looking for?
[16:49] <alan_smith> holstein: sorry?
[16:49] <holstein> alan_smith: mint is not supported here, but is based on ubuntu.. anything you want to do you are likely able to do, and welcome to do in/with ubuntu
[16:49] <pseudonymous> Guys... Really.. Does *anyone* use a scanner in here ? Anyone ?
[16:49] <therazr> dw1: did he install grub in the correct hard drive? Is it a UEFI machine Zipper2014 ?
[16:49] <holstein> alan_smith: are you referring to the desktop enviroment? or window manager?
[16:49] <Zipper2014> therazr: I only have 1 HD.
[16:49] <davido__> I just noticed a quirk in 14.04 that probably should be reported, but I'm sort of unclear on how to explain it...
[16:49] <alan_smith> holstein: desktop environment
[16:49] <dw1> therazr: yeah we tried lots of stuff, boot-repair etc, it all seemed to install fine but never boots
[16:49] <holstein> alan_smith: "decent" will be a matter of opion, so just let us know what you are seeking, specificially
[16:50] <holstein> opinion*
[16:50] <alan_smith> holstein: both kubuntu and lubuntu are okay for me (kde lxde)
[16:50] <davido__> When my laptop starts up it almost always pops up an error dialog top-left as soon as the initial welcome/lock screen appears.  This is not the problem of interest.....
[16:50] <dw1> therazr: somewhat fine, anyway.. looked ok.. :)
[16:50] <therazr> dw1 Zipper2014 thats sad
[16:50] <cer> it is driving me insane mgolisch ....
[16:50] <holstein> alan_smith: kubuntu and lubuntu *are* ubuntu.. you can try them, or add lxde and/or kde to your ubuntu
[16:50] <davido__> the problem is that although I can clear the box, that region of the desktop, even after logging in, is dead to mouse clicks.
[16:51] <cer> mgolisch: even parted -l output looks fine
[16:51] <Zipper2014> What is sad therazr?
[16:51] <dw1> Zipper2014: you could try 12.04 then upgrade to 14.04
[16:51] <therazr> dw1: maybe its secureboot creating some problem?
[16:51] <dw1> therazr: yeah
[16:51] <holstein> Zipper2014: are you installing updates during the installation?
[16:51] <mgolisch> cer: do you have an entry in /etc/fstab for that disk? if yes thats why automount doenst do shit
[16:51] <holstein> Zipper2014: you can try *not* doing that.. could be you are updating to a kernel that is not "liking" your graphics.
[16:51] <cer> mgolisch: nope
[16:51] <mgolisch> cer: it will leave allone stuff thats configured in /etc/fstab, atleast thats what i think
[16:51] <holstein> Zipper2014: the 14.04 live CD works for you?
[16:52] <alan_smith> holstein: i had kubuntu installed on my machine but since it was a very old install upgraded many times I decided to just wipe it altogether in order to install a clean one, however, it won't boot from usb :(, lubuntu installed perfectly but won't boot from disk
[16:52] <Zipper2014> Yes, I have installed updates.
[16:52] <cer> mgolisch: ye you are right, not there though
[16:52] <Zipper2014> Yes, the Live USB works for me.
[16:52] <holstein> Zipper2014: that would be a difference between the live CD (that im assuming works) and the installed system, post install
[16:52] <dw1> boot-repair did complain about an "Unusual EFI"
[16:52] <dw1> but otherwise continued
[16:52] <Zipper2014> HOWEVER, it does get stuck on the second step on the install. So I have to quit and redo it again and it goes through.
[16:52] <pseudonymous> Is there a more help-oriented channel I should ask in ? The past 11 times I've been here, I've managed to elicit help once. Is the forum a better venue ?
[16:52] <holstein> alan_smith: i use plop to boot legacy hardwrae from cd, and point to usb boot
[16:53] <holstein> alan_smith: nothing about mint will help faciliate any "Fixes" for your hardware to install an OS
[16:53] <therazr> pseudonymous: define 'better'. Each help channel has its pros and cons, and you might get help in many different ways
[16:53] <holstein> alan_smith: if it were my hardware, i would test the hardware.. sounds like you could have something broken
[16:54] <alan_smith> holstein: the problem is, 'ubuntu' does work correctly, so, I think perhaps mint could work also? ubuntu just works, lubuntu works live but doesn't work from hdd, kubuntu won't boot from usb at all...
[16:54] <pseudonymous> therazr: anything, really.. Acknowledgement that someone read my request for starters. I don't know.. All I know is I bought a scanner based on xsane's own rating and I'm stuck with a cryptic error message..
[16:54] <alan_smith> i don't think the problem is my vga because it's quite old nvidia
[16:55] <davido__> IRC is very transitory in nature; you only get useful responses if someone in the channel at this moment happens to notice your question and considers it answerable in an IRC format.
[16:56] <therazr> pseudonymous: google for your error. Also ask here, if no one answers it means no one knows how to fix it. In that case you might try creating a forum post and/or asking in AskUbuntu
[16:56] <holstein> alan_smith: mint is free to try, as is ubuntu.. go for it
[16:56] <mgolisch> cer: the disk is usb?
[16:56] <davido__> If you are looking for help with something where a very few may have experience (some specific piece of harware, for example), it's probably better to ask in the forum where more eyes may see it over a longer period of time.
[16:57] <alan_smith> i thought the problem were nouveau because it's like guaranteed not to work properly, but i purged it and the problem persists
[16:57] <pseudonymous> therazr: I do, I have. It's just that as far as errors go, xsane's inanely vague "invalid argument" error isn't exactly giving me much to go on, if anything.
[16:57] <Dazax> Salut!
[16:57] <holstein> alan_smith: no need to purge the included open source driver that supports your hardware
[16:57] <holstein> alan_smith: unity needs 3d.. you may prefer using lxde or xfce
[16:58] <holstein> alan_smith: there are "pass through" options for gnome and unity to use on older/unsupported, non-3d hardware.. but they are not ideal
[16:58] <therazr> pseudonymous: I see, I know what you mean by 'vague', and its annoying. But what davido__ said is what you should look forward to :)
[16:59] <cer> mgolisch: usb 3 on usb 2
[16:59] <pseudonymous> I can't hang here all day, spamming the same question.. I think I'll try my luck with the forums, perhaps the chances of running into mr or mrs right might increase there
[16:59] <aarobc> I'm having an issue with the NaCl google music manager. Anybody else delt with that on ubuntu?
[17:00] <alan_smith> holstein: i don't know how to configure x11, so i purget nouveau hoping that it would fallback to vesa... and no, nouveau doesn't support my hardware and i'm yet to find a nvidia card that it does support. I don't want to use Unity
[17:00] <alan_smith> i don't think vesa supports my monitor resolution though
[17:00] <holstein> alan_smith: thats not how you do it
[17:00] <stetho> Hi all - I have a hard disk in a server (12.04). fstab contains a line /dev/sdc1 /data ext4 defaults 0 0. The disk mounts fine. If I chmod 777 /data and restart the machine, /data has 755 permissions. Change it again to 777, reboot, back to 755. What am I missing that's changing the permissions?
[17:01] <holstein> alan_smith: you need not purge the open driver to use vesa
[17:01] <holstein> alan_smith: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209
[17:01] <davido__> pseudonymous That's exactly what I'm saying; it's silly to hang here all day asking the question over and over again hoping that at one particular moment you have the winning combination of an answerable question and a person who knows the answer, especially when it's a question on a specific piece of hardware.  Ask in the forum, come back to it hours or a day later, profit.
[17:01] <holstein> alan_smith: the open driver or the proprietary driver will likely be the "best" for you in *any* linux
[17:02] <alan_smith> holstein: nouveau NEVER worked for me... does vesa support higher resoltuins than 1024x768?
[17:02] <Zipper2014> dw1: WIll you be able to help me after I get 12.04 installed to move from it to 14.04?
[17:02] <therazr> alan_smith: what about proprietary?
[17:02] <someHuman> I am experiencing lags in my Ubuntu.
[17:02] <holstein> alan_smith: try it and see.. but the proprietary driver is what i, the community, nvidia, and any linux distro will suggest
[17:02] <therazr> Zipper2014: First you should make sure 12.04 gets installed and fixes your problem. I'm not sure that is the case right now...
[17:02] <someHuman> I experience flickering with the Chrome screen.
[17:03] <alan_smith> therazr: I installed it from cl using aptitude but it doesn't work also (304 if memory serves)
[17:03] <someHuman> I mean with Chrome browser.
[17:03] <someHuman> I am using an AMD graphics card.
[17:03] <therazr> alan_smith: what is the card?
[17:03] <alan_smith> therazr: gtx560
[17:03] <therazr> alan_smith: that card uses the newest driver version for nvidia
[17:03] <alan_smith> therazr: you mena 33x?
[17:04] <pseudonymous> davido__: ah, sorry for not realising that the first time round. I'm just a bit frustrated that I make someone purchase a scanner based on its linux support only to have spent and hour so far to no avail with plenty more time wasted to come. Sorry :)
[17:04] <alan_smith> therazr: 331.20?
[17:04] <therazr> alan_smith: yes I think so
[17:04] <alan_smith> therazr: any ideas if it's available from the repos?
[17:04] <holstein> alan_smith: if you have not, try the proprietary driver from your manufacturer for the operating system uyou are using.. use the one in the default repositories
[17:05] <therazr> alan_smith: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates
[17:05] <davido__> Take it back.
[17:05] <Zipper2014> It is very overwhelming at times when you are in chat with many people at one time. Some know the peoblems and some do not. However, I will try to install the ubuntu-12.04.04-dvd-amd64.iso. If this is not the right ISO, please let me know.
[17:05] <alan_smith> therazr: i'm going to try them, thank you :)
[17:05] <davido__> If it's not worth the frustration, or exceeds your patience in getting it working, definitely don't let it ruin your day.
[17:05] <holstein> Zipper2014: do you need/want 64bit?
[17:06] <Zipper2014> holstein: My system is 64 bit.
[17:06] <pseudonymous> davido__: parents require printers, scanners and whatnot - children comply.. Children hope Linux can avoid the nasty viruses they otherwise get - but now children sulk because SANE is causing insanity
[17:06] <holstein> Zipper2014: 64bit capable?
[17:07] <holstein> Zipper2014: how much ram do you have?
[17:07] <Zipper2014> holstein: Yes.
[17:07] <robin_> hola
[17:07] <robin_> motherfuckers, your Os is a real shit
[17:07] <holstein> !language | robin_
[17:07] <pseudonymous> And really, it's 2014.. a fully supported scanner really ought to just work.. Oh well.. writing up a forum post right now, finger's crossed, someone might know how to kick/facestomp SANE into working.
[17:07] <aarobc> Why are there no multi-threaded vp9 encoders out here?
[17:08] <bekks> aarobc: Feel free to develop one? :)
[17:08] <robin_> ubuntu is a bad os
[17:08] <therazr> Zipper2014: if 2gb or more of ram, you can go with 64bit
[17:08] <Zipper2014> Memory is 5.8G, Intel Core i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz x4, 1TB HD.
[17:08] <DJones> robin_: Stop that, you don't have to use it
[17:08] <therazr> robin_: Then why are you here (eventually using it?)?
[17:08] <aarobc> bekks: Not going to say I haven't thought about it
[17:08] <bekks> Zipper2014: Memory is 6GB :)
[17:08] <robin_> is just kidding,  ubuntu is a grat os
[17:08] <robin_> great
[17:09] <therazr> lol
[17:09] <robin_> Lol
[17:09] <robin_> i need help
[17:09] <holstein> robin_: please ask if you have a support question.. otherwise, enjoy the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat. thanks!
[17:09] <bekks> robin_: Well, your tone just made me to not help you, whatever your issue might be.
[17:10] <aarobc> I've been using 14.04 exclusively for the last weeks. it's very usable.
[17:10] <pseudonymous> aarobc: so long as you don't plug in a scanner -_-
[17:10] <DJones> And goodbye robin_
[17:11] <aarobc> I'm very impressed with the progress that has been made on amd cards. Open drivers are faster than proprietary now
[17:11] <holstein> pseudonymous: please dont share mis-information.. if you have issue with a scanner, let the creator of the device know that they are welcome and encouraged to support linux.. linux and ubuntu are both very open and easy to support
[17:11] <bekks> aarobc: Which is not true for am/ati and nvidia drivers.
[17:11] <new0> hey everyone, i am trying to boot ubuntu on   GUI but it's load in text mode. now i did sudo service lightgm start and xfce was starting. and i am trying to login but it's kick me out everytime.
[17:11] <pseudonymous> holstein: no misinformation, the scanner is fully supported (http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html) and yet nothing works
[17:11] <holstein> pseudonymous: i realize hardware support can be challenging.. but, most time, things "just work" when they can.. and when they dont, they may never work
[17:12] <holstein> pseudonymous: sure, but sane doenst create that device
[17:12] <aarobc> bekks: I've benchmarked my HD 6870 with the closed and open source drivers. open source ones are about 3x as fast.
[17:12] <new0> also i connected via SSH on my desktop and run sudo service lightgm stop and now i mouse is blinking and not sure how to move on! any advice?
[17:12] <pseudonymous> holstein: we agree there. But if it's listed as supported, then someone's on the hook for that - it's obvious that the only reason anyone would care to look at such a page is when making purchasing / conversion decisions
[17:12] <bekks> aarobc: you benchmarked what? :)
[17:13] <holstein> pseudonymous: let them know.. the documenation should be publically editable
[17:13] <Ari-Yang> aarobc: nice, nice to see open source drivers are improving
[17:13] <aarobc> bekks: glmark2 was what I used
[17:13] <therazr> pseudonymous: but first make sure you did install everything correctly
[17:13] <aarobc> ran the test three times for each
[17:13] <alan_smith> where can i upload an image?
[17:14] <jhutchins> There was a change in the name of the device that the kernel created for some scanners that sane didn't account for at one point.
[17:14] <junka> !browser
[17:14] <holstein> !paste | alan_smith
[17:14] <jhutchins> You just update the conf file for that brand and it works fine.
[17:14] <pseudonymous> therazr: I'd love to, but seeing as ubuntu comes with sane and company preinstalled I don't know what I could do to frack it up. I know it's using the right back-end, at least
[17:14] <junka> !info browser
[17:15] <jhutchins> pseudonymous: So how does it fail?  Does it say something like "no devices found"?
[17:16] <vbgunz> I have several "screen" sections in my xorg.conf file. How do I switch between them on the fly? is there a command I can run through the terminal that will automatically set these screens up
[17:16] <pseudonymous> jutchins: -- http://pastebin.com/uaD4i9sJ <-- that's a complete debug output of "scanimage -d" running as root to prevent permissions problems to the best of my ability. It simply decides that some argument is invalid, neglects to tell me what and then it takes 30 seconds or so for it to release the device
[17:16] <bekks> vbgunz: You cant.
[17:16] <alan_smith> ok, after installing the latest proprietary driver, i can't even boot the recovery mode: http://imagebin.org/308525
[17:16] <bekks> vbgunz: You have to restart the X server to do so.
[17:16] <jhutchins> pseudonymous: Check to see which devices are created and what permissions they have.
[17:17] <bekks> alan_smith: And which driver is it? For which hardware in detail?
[17:17] <vbgunz> bekks: damn, that makes things difficult
[17:17] <pseudonymous> vbgunz: some (namely open source) drivers allow you to dynamically switch screen configs via calling "xrandr", it's quite straight-forward and should detect resolution etc automatically (if you use NVIDIA, this is a no-go)
[17:17] <alan_smith> bekks: 331.20, gtx560
[17:17] <dw1> Zipper2014: The only thing you have to know is to upgrade 12.04 to 14.04 at this time you need to run at terminal "software-updater -d" to be offered the "development release".  After some time in use when many issues are fixed 14.04.1 will be released and offered to 12.04 users without the -d flag.
[17:18] <new0> hey everyone, i am trying to boot ubuntu on   GUI but it's load in text mode. now i did sudo service lightgm start and xfce was starting. and i am trying to login but it's kick me out everytime. also i connected via SSH on my desktop and run sudo service lightgm stop and now i mouse is blinking and not sure how to move on! any advice? (the problem not the driver, could be xserver)
[17:18] <alan_smith> here is a lower res one: http://imagebin.org/308526
[17:18] <bekks> alan_smith: How about stating "I am using nvidia drivers"?
[17:18] <vbgunz> yeah, damn then it's a no go. I have 3 displays and several different kind of setups. it's becoming a pita to keep manually switching between what I want
[17:18] <bekks> alan_smith: And whats wrong with that dmesg output?
[17:18] <bekks> alan_smith: How did you install that driver?
[17:19] <dw1> Zipper2014: They do that so people expecting long-term stability aren't offered relatively untested versions right off the bat.
[17:19] <alan_smith>  bekks: from the repos
[17:19] <dw1> Zipper2014: other than that, the upgrade should "just work"
[17:19] <dw1> Zipper2014: unless you run into our familiar challenge again
[17:19] <pseudonymous> jhutchins: you're telling me that "invalid argument" may be related to a permissions problem ?
[17:20] <Zipper2014> dw1: So if 12.04.04 installs and works fine, then 14.04 should be ok?
[17:20] <bekks> alan_smith: Which Ubuntu release are you on?
[17:20] <dw1> Zipper2014: maybe, maybe not.
[17:20] <dw1> Zipper2014: a lot has changed in that time
[17:20] <bekks> Zipper2014: not necessarily.
[17:20] <alan_smith> bekks: lubuntu 14.04
[17:21] <Matthew_Moore> Hey is anybodu else having problems with WMV files in 14.04??
[17:21] <jhutchins> pseudonymous: If the device it were communicating with was not the correct interface it might look that way.
[17:21] <awesomess3> alan_smith, how are you enjoying lubuntu 14.04?
[17:21] <Matthew_Moore> every time i try to play a WMV the player just crashed. happen in movie player, mplayer, smplayer and vlc.
[17:21] <alan_smith> awesomess3: are you serious? it won't even boot on my machine :)
[17:22] <awesomess3> alan_smith, oh really..,, dang. I was kind of serious, 83% serious.
[17:22] <pseudonymous> jhutchins: saw something like that, but his issue was that the scanner couldn't even be opened
[17:22] <bekks> alan_smith: What exactly does "doesnt boot" mean?
[17:23] <dw1> Zipper2014: going away for some hours.. g/l
[17:23] <alan_smith> bekks: it simply hangs at that part (http://imagebin.org/308526)
[17:24] <dw1> Zipper2014: if you write anything to me ill read it when I return.  keep me posted on successes. :)
[17:24] <bekks> alan_smith: Did you try using the "nomodeset" kernel command line option?
[17:24] <llutz> pseudonymous: did you run "sane-fine-scanner"?
[17:24] <llutz> pseudonymous: did you run "sane-find-scanner"?
[17:25] <alan_smith> bekks: nope, i've tried to add that on grub but it won't accept.... i'm not used to this new grub2
[17:25] <pseudonymous> llutz: nope, but the scanner shows up just fine in the list ? I've tried unplugging and plugging it back in several times. Whenever the scanner isn't connected, the device list is rightly empty, whenever I plug it back in, it shows up
[17:25] <Zipper2014> dw1: Thanks
[17:25] <bekks> alan_smith: Define "wont accept"?
[17:26] <new0> trying to google > might suggest that permission problem with .Xauthority which is own by root. and u run sudo chown username:username .Xauthority > but that's not changing the ownership. any ideal?
[17:26] <alan_smith> bekks: it returns some error, I don't remember exactly. I think I coul've said 'no', i didn't 'try' nomodeset
[17:27] <bekks> alan_smith: Then try it.
[17:27] <alan_smith> bekks: any pointers on how to do that on grub2?
[17:27] <bekks> !nomodeset | alan_smith
[17:27] <junka> !webbrowser-app
[17:27] <junka> !info webbrowser-app
[17:27] <alan_smith> bekks: thanks, going to try.
[17:29] <alan_smith> bekks: it seems it's the same as grub1, i'm gonna try that and take a picture if it doesn't work
[17:29] <krll_> hi all
[17:30] <krll_> who uses i3wm?
[17:30] <pacebl> krll_: I do. What's your question?
[17:30] <new0> sorry, my mistake! it did change the ownership. but not that i am logged in it's give me some error: System program problem detected - Do you want to report the problem now? -> but when i do click Cancel or Report problem it's just give me the desktop background with nothing to see
[17:31] <aguitel> anyway to install mate desktop in 14.04 from ubuntu repo?
[17:31] <new0> also, this is far as already someone else help me with that and got these result
[17:33] <xangua> aguitel: did you consult the mate site?
[17:34] <aguitel> xangua, not info
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> aguitel  it's not in the ubuntu repo, i guess
[17:37] <aguitel> MonkeyDust, ok
[17:37] <jpa-> after i upgraded to 14.04, my chromium became huge: http://kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/pix/hugechrome.png   apparently some DPI issue, but any idea why this happens?
[17:38] <aarobc> jpa-: you have your monitors set to the default resolution?
[17:40] <jpa-> aarobc: yes; xdpyinfo reports correct dpi atleast
[17:40] <chenqisu123> goodnight everyone
[17:40] <aarobc> jpa-: what resolution are your monitors?
[17:40] <aarobc> or is your monitor
[17:41] <jpa-> 1920x1080
[17:41] <aarobc> that is weird.
[17:41] <jpa-> chromium appears ridicuously huge, also when run with a clean config (new user account)
[17:42] <Electron_Pulses> how to enable hibernate in ubuntu14.04 ?
[17:42] <Electron_Pulses> how to enable hibernate in ubuntu14.04 ?
[17:42] <Electron_Pulses> how to enable hibernate in ubuntu14.04 ?
[17:42] <Electron_Pulses> how to enable hibernate in ubuntu14.04 ?
[17:42] <Electron_Pulses> how to enable hibernate in ubuntu14.04 ?
[17:42] <Electron_Pulses> how to enable hibernate in ubuntu14.04 ?
[17:42] <bekks> !patience | Electron_Pulses
[17:42] <aarobc> stop
[17:42] <unopaste> Electron_Pulses you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[17:42] <alan_smith> bekks: with nomodeset the system hangs at black screen, the mobo boots once while the system loads. i've tried blacklisting nouvea and boot kubuntu live but it hangs with a blinking cursor, nomodeset also hangs on black screen after the text-mode loading screen
[17:43] <alan_smith> bekks: the mobo "beeps"
[17:43] <bekks> alan_smith: you should uninstall nouveau if you are using nvidia.
[17:43] <alan_smith> bekks: i have already purged it
[17:44] <heckman> Quick question for you guys. It's been awhile since I've had to do anything similar so I forget the method to tell my Ubuntu systems to not install dpkg from a PPA we have installed. I don't want to pin the version, then updates won't automatically happen.
[17:44] <alan_smith> i'm starting to think the problem is not the vga
[17:44] <Electron_Pulses> how to enable hibernate in ubuntu14.04 ? anyone can solve?
[17:44] <new0> after i  logged in i can only see the desktop background but nothing more
[17:45] <new0> any help?
[17:45] <bekks> heckman: And whats the question you are having?
[17:45] <Electron_Pulses> how to enable hibernate in ubuntu14.04 ?
[17:46] <heckman> bekks: sorry, we needed to use a PPA to get some newer MySQL stuff. So now, we have a version of dpkg that got pulled in from the PPA and doesn't include the fixes for the two dpkg vulns. So I was asking for the method by which I tell Ubuntu to not install anything from that PPA by default minus one package. But I think I just remembered...
[17:46] <bekks> heckman: I still dont see a question. Whats you question?
[17:46] <heckman> I'd need one pin disallowing all, and then another pin just allowing that one package...yes? Just making sure that seems sensible. Also, to quote my earlier line...
[17:46] <bekks> heckman: you want to use a ppa but you dont want to use the ppa?
[17:46] <heckman> So I was asking for the method by which I tell Ubuntu to not install anything from that PPA by default minus one package.
[17:47] <bekks> heckman: if you want to omit a specific package then pin it to the version you wannt to have.
[17:47] <heckman> That's no good.
[17:47] <heckman> Because then an apt-get update, to pull in sec fixes, will not pull updates.
[17:48] <heckman> s/update/upgrade/
[17:48] <Electron_Pulses> bekks
[17:48] <heckman> Let me see if I can hack around it with some apt prefs. Will post findings here.
[17:48] <llutz> heckman: sure it will be updated, you should not set dpkg on hold.
[17:48] <new0> hi there. just small Q: r u busy? or dont' have the time to help or dunno about those problem? or may i try in some other time? Thank in advance
[17:49] <heckman> llutz: +1 on that, but right now our systems have dpkg from a PPA we need. And it's a vulnerable version, so I need to tell apt to trust me and not use the PPA version.
[17:49] <bekks> new0: Whats the actual support question you are having?
[17:49] <heckman> Ah, major version.
[17:49] <heckman> Good call. Wasn't thinking semver.
[17:49] <magic> hello
[17:50] <new0> bekks, well... problem loggin with GUI i  can only see the desktop background and nothing else (Ctrl +Alt +  F1 is working)
[17:50] <Electroid> how to enable hibernate in ubuntu
[17:50] <Electroid> how to enable hibernate in ubuntu
[17:51] <Electroid> how to enable hibernate in ubuntu
[17:51] <fathy> hi allll
[17:51] <Electroid> hii
[17:51] <Pici> Electroid: asking every 5 seconds is not the answer.
[17:51] <fathy>  i`m new  here
[17:51] <Electroid> hii fathy
[17:51] <new0> fathy, welcome :)
[17:51] <fathy> hi Ele
[17:52] <fathy> thnxx    that agood  Ubuntoo
[17:52] <new0> bekks, can u help?
[17:53] <spaceneedle> The Sully Branch Library,Rochester,NY has put Ubuntu 12.04.4 on two Lenovo t500 laptops!
[17:55] <jhutchins> !repeat | Electroid
[17:55] <Electroid> how to enable hibernate in ubuntu ?
[17:56] <josvuk> hi how to hack my pasword from the entry in passwd?
[17:56] <Electroid> heyy josvuk
[17:56] <riverloop> Hello everyone.
[17:58] <new0> bekks, ?
[17:58] <Electroid> i really dont know how to use IRC lol
[17:58] <Electroid> hello there?????????????????????////
[17:58] <new0> bekks, somelinkperhaps?
[17:58] <random54356> hello back
[17:59] <jhutchins> Electroid: Have you checked the wiki?
[17:59] <Electroid> no
[17:59] <Electroid> I am just trying to do some sort of experiments to understand the functions of IRC
[18:00] <new0> Electroid, hey, any Q?
[18:00] <jhutchins> new0: There is an error log at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  It's very noisy, but it might suggest a line of investigation.
[18:00] <Electroid> now0?
[18:00] <bekks> Electroid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[18:00] <Electroid> how your are able to write in RED font?
[18:00] <jhutchins> Electroid: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[18:00] <bekks> new0: I am still waiting for your support question.
[18:00] <random54356> So i switched back to Ubuntu. With Unity, there seems to be a SUPER+P command for switchind displays, but it does it without showing any indication of what mode it will switch.
[18:01] <wadechandler> or /help
[18:01] <new0> Electroid, hey. listen when i was first start here i did ask a log of Q. with the time you will learn that any Q u have this (or other IRC) can be very helpful. any specific Q?
[18:01] <bekks> Electroid: that depends on your irc client. Using colors is discouraged on the freenode network. Do you have a specific ubuntu support question?
[18:02] <random54356> is this the expected behavior? Even XFCE has a GUI for this.
[18:02] <new0> jhutchins, sure. i will try to look for an error. Tnx
[18:03] <josvuk> what sort does ubuntu use for decrypting the password? md4?
[18:03] <Electroid> yes bekks i want to completely access my UBUNTU in ROOT. so that I can easily use some apps
[18:03] <new0> bekks, ho, well the problem.. i am loggin into lightdm but i am only see the desktop background with no icon or what so ever
[18:03] <bekks> josvuk: md4 is hash, not a encryption algorithm.
[18:03] <jhutchins> new0: lspci -nn | grep -i vga will tell you what chipset you have, which can be useful in google searches.
[18:04] <bekks> josvuk: And passwords (for system users) are not decrypted, but their hashes are compared.
[18:04] <random54356> what i want to do, is to switch between DVI Monitor and HDMI TV. It is not possible for me.
[18:05] <chenqisu123> Electroid: try command:  sudo su
[18:05] <Jordan_U> josvuk: The hashing algorithm used in /etc/shadow is sha-512 by default.
[18:06] <jhutchins> Electroid: Generally you should run apps as a normal user.  Running GUI apps as root is a good way to mess up your system.
[18:06] <jhutchins> !root
[18:07] <Electroid> sudo su give access through terminal
[18:07] <Electroid> i want simple BACKTRACK LIKE ROOT ACCESS IN UBUNTU
[18:07] <bekks> Electroid: sudo su is the worst method to achieve that.
[18:07] <new0> jhutchins, sure. but this is not the issue. the driver i having is good
[18:07] <Marco-Novato1> Amigos, instalei o Lts 14.04 e meu sistema ficou muitissimo lento!!!
[18:07] <bekks> Electroid: then use: sudo -i
[18:07] <josvuk> hm, so how to find out what are the input data for the right hash in my shadow file?
[18:07] <Electroid> sudo -i do what?
[18:07] <bekks> josvuk: what are you actually trying to do?
[18:08] <bekks> Electroid: It gives you a root shell.
[18:08] <new0> jhutchins, bekks, what is the best text editor to search text in termianl. tried nano but not sure how to work with it
[18:08] <Electroid> okk
[18:08] <bekks> new0: vi
[18:08] <Electroid> but again we are unable to open root user correcT?
[18:09] <bekks> Electroid: We are able, but you will lose support if you do.
[18:09] <Rad-> Hey I'm having trouble with ubuntu and rsyslog, Cany anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? http://forum.cubers.net/thread-7538-post-149681.html#pid149681
[18:09] <pacebl> bekks: new0: If you had issues figuring out nano, trying to use vi would be cruel. In nano, just hit control + the command at the bottom
[18:10] <Electroid> tell me one thing how to specifically mention to whom we want to chat
[18:10] <Electroid> how please tell me
[18:10] <pacebl> new0: ctrl O is save, ctrl X is quit (it'll ask if you want to save changes)
[18:10] <josvuk> I have installed linux on ps3 but not used it for a while so forgott the password for login, so I want to build out the hd and mount it in a runing linux system for reading the password hash
[18:10] <bekks> Electroid: type his/her name, followed by a : sign.
[18:10] <Marco-Novato1> quem pode me ajudar,??? Instalei o LTS 14.04 e meu sistema ficou muito lento!!!
[18:10] <Electroid> bekks : testing
[18:11] <bekks> Electroid: Omit the whitespace between the name and the : sign.
[18:11] <pacebl> After upgrading to 14.04 the Network Menu icon disappeared from the menu bar. How do I debug this menu and get it back? I've double checked the proper notification package is installed
[18:11] <Electroid> bekks:
[18:11] <Jordan_U> !pt | Marco-Novato1
[18:11] <Electroid> bekks: testing
[18:11] <bekks> Electroid: Works fine.
[18:11] <Electroid> bekks: thanks
[18:11] <new0> bekks, tnx. but that's realy harder than nano. pacebl tnx can be helpful. jhutchins the problem seems to be XSErver
[18:11] <Jordan_U> Electroid: You can also start typing a nick and hit the tab key to automatically complete it.
[18:11] <josvuk> what's about hashcat does it works with sha-512?
[18:12] <Electroid> Jordan_U, : ohh wonderful again thanx
[18:12] <Electroid> Jordan_U,:  ohh wonderful again thanx
[18:13] <new0> bekks, pacebl, jhutchins, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknow. -> can be useful for u all?
[18:13] <Rad-> Hey I'm having trouble with ubuntu and rsyslog, Cany anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? http://forum.cubers.net/thread-7538-post-149681.html#pid149681
[18:13] <Electroid> bekks: so how to get complete root
[18:13] <jhutchins> Electroid: Seriously, take a look at that tutorial.  http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[18:13] <bekks> new0: Where is that from?
[18:13] <Eagleman7> Any idea why i cant connect on 127.0.0.1?  http://pastebin.com/n97T8TCf
[18:13] <Eagleman7> It works fine when i connect to localhost
[18:13] <Electroid> jhutchins, I hate tutorials
[18:13] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> [13.10] I was attempting to burn an ISO file on my usb using (Startup Disk Creator) and got an error "An uncaught exception was raised:Invalid version string 'GNU/Linux'"
[18:13] <jhutchins> new0: Useful for YOU.
[18:14] <Electroid> jhutchins, I always try to learn directly from doing so lol
[18:14] <the_eye_> Any way to see RAM speed without be root ?
[18:14] <bekks> Eagleman7: Because "127.0.0.1" is not listed in the users table of mysql.
[18:14] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> used the command "usb-creator-gtk --allow-system-internal" and got the same error
[18:14] <new0> bekks, pacebl, jhutchins, it's from the log /var/log/Xorg.0.log -> and i am not sure what can it tell me. i was hoping you can give me some direction
[18:14] <jhutchins> Electroid: This really isn't the place for that, this is for Ubuntu-specific support.
[18:14] <pacebl> the_eye_: Should be in /proc/memstat
[18:14] <pacebl> the_eye_: er, /proc/meminfo *
[18:15] <riverloop> Hi all
[18:15] <Eagleman7> bekks: could that have changed when updating mysql? my config worked fine for the last half year
[18:15] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I needs help
[18:15] <Electroid> jhutchins, I know... :p sorry I am still a kid :p
[18:15] <the_eye_> pacebl, Not its not there
[18:15] <bekks> Eagleman7: Yes.
[18:15] <jhutchins> the_eye_: lshw
[18:15] <riverloop> My Qt Designer has two sets of menus -- one is the normal application menu and other is the global menu. How can I get rid of the application menu?
[18:15] <pacebl> the_eye_: I thought it was, oops
[18:16] <tom__666> i can't install flareget using terminal
[18:16] <new0> bekks, pacebl, jhutchins, if the problem is really X server. how can i check it to make sure?
[18:16] <the_eye_> jhutchins, requires root
[18:16] <riverloop> Moreover, there is no close/minimize/maximize buttons.
[18:16] <Electroid> can anyone tell me how to get ROOT user like backtrack in ubuntu
[18:16] <jhutchins> the_eye_: Use sudo
[18:16] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> sudo bash
[18:16] <pacebl> jhutchins: He asked if there was a way to do it without requiring root
[18:16] <bekks> GuyThatNeedsHelp: What do you need a root bash for?
[18:16] <jhutchins> !root | Electroid
[18:17] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> [13.10] I was attempting to burn an ISO file on my usb using (Startup Disk Creator) and got an error "An uncaught exception was raised:Invalid version string 'GNU/Linux'"
[18:17] <the_eye_> jhutchins, sudo = root, I dont have root.
[18:17] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I needs help
[18:17] <Jordan_U> Electroid: Don't. There is no need to, it's insecure, and it leads to things breaking. Just say no to logging in as root.
[18:17] <new0> bekks, pacebl, jhutchins, need advice before. what u think. should i try to fix it? or just backup my laptop and reinstall ubuntu?
[18:17] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> used the command "usb-creator-gtk --allow-system-internal" and got the same error
[18:17] <bekks> new0: Of course you should try to fix it.
[18:17] <Electroid> Jordan_U: ok
[18:17] <bekks> new0: This isnt Windows and doesnt need to be reinstalled all the time.
[18:17] <Electroid> and any solutions to hibernate system ?
[18:18] <clue_h> GuyThatNeedsHelp, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles go to the command line section for dd command use example. I got the same error ages ago its a bug
[18:18] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Thanks @clue_h
[18:18] <new0> bekks, pacebl, jhutchins, lol u telling me :) bad vertal of Windows on the past.. untill my brother broke it
[18:19] <chenqisu123> Electroid: http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation
[18:19] <new0> bekks, pacebl, jhutchins, ok. how can i reinstall the GUI? maybe the lightdm is the problem. can u guide me?
[18:20] <bekks> new0: lightdm is not "the gui" - after you log in, lightdm did everything alright.
[18:20] <new0> bekks, so? what come after that?
[18:20] <bekks> new0: your desktop environment.
[18:20] <tom__666> i need help
[18:21] <clue_h> tom__666, what with
[18:21] <new0> bekks, good. tha't the one i was thinking :) tnx
[18:21] <new0> bekks, how to reinstall?
[18:21] <bekks> new0: This isnt windows. Reinstall will most likely not solve any problems.
[18:22] <tom__666> clue_h: i can't install flareget using terminal
[18:22] <new0> bekks, yes yes i know linux is perfect BUT I AM NOT :) than...?
[18:22] <random54356> Super/MOD4+P doesnt let me choose the display mode. help?
[18:23] <someHuman> What is the terminal command to extract zipped files?
[18:23] <fathy_> hello nany one here
[18:23] <new0> bekks, pacebl, jhutchins, after rethinking.. how can i fix my xfce?
[18:24] <new0> someHuman, try unzip file.zip
[18:24] <someHuman> new0: Thanks!
[18:25] <new0> someHuman, did it works?
[18:25] <someHuman> new0: Still doing it.
[18:25] <new0> someHuman, would u like to know how i know that?
[18:26] <someHuman> new0: Uhm, hopefully you aren't trolling.
[18:26] <rtur> Hi guys. I use a thinkpad w500 with a intel integrated graphics controller and a Radeon HD 3650 but it looks like it doesn't work.. How can I enable verbose logs  ?
[18:26] <new0> someHuman, i search google for "extract zip file linux" then the first link was "http://nixcraft.com/showthread.php/283-How-to-extract-zip-files-in-Linux" and took the answer from there!! but i am happy to know that i could be helpful
[18:27] <jlintz> hi, anyone seeing signature errors on us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com
[18:27] <jlintz> it looks like the GPG signature is invalid
[18:27] <someHuman> new0: Ah, thank god you ain trolling lol.
[18:27] <someHuman> ain't*
[18:27] <someHuman> jlintz: What is that?
[18:27] <new0> someHuman, and nope. not trolling. just search google. but in my opinion try to ask here but is the best way of doing things like this. this channal did help me either ways
[18:27] <jlintz> someHuman: on running apt-get update
[18:28] <new0> someHuman, i am tnx to my self about it too lol :)
[18:28] <someHuman> jlintz: Are you just trying to update your system?
[18:28] <someHuman> new0: ;)
[18:28] <jlintz> trying to update the package lists
[18:28] <someHuman> new0: Haha not being sarcastic! Thanks!
[18:28] <jlintz> but the mirror im hitting was just updated about 20 minutes ago with an invalid gpg singature
[18:28] <jlintz> signature
[18:29] <someHuman> jlintz: Sorry can't help you right now, Ubuntu has many channels. This is like the general support, going into more specific channels can probably help you more.
[18:29] <someHuman> jlintz: That's normal in the software world.
[18:29] <new0> someHuman, also, i remember some command like zfcx something that it's good to deal with all these kind of compressions files/folders so try to google or ever better ask here from expirience one. because i am really a newbie
[18:30] <someHuman> new0: Ah ok, sure!
[18:30] <new0> someHuman, not sure if it's "zfcx" dont try it but it is with this kind of familiar name
[18:30] <new0> someHuman, np
[18:30] <new0> bekks, pacebl, jhutchins, any thinking about my problem?
[18:31] <aarobc> what's the keyboard shortcut for moving a window between monitors?
[18:31] <new0> bekks, pacebl, jhutchins, let's say. i want to export this /var/log/Xorg.0.log so you can see and help me with that. can u think of a way?
[18:32] <SchrodingersScat> !paste | new0
[18:32] <esteban__> Hi, let me ask you something? Is there any channel like this but in spanish language.
[18:32] <new0> aarobc, like Ctrl + Alt + arrow key in windows?
[18:32] <kostkon> !es | esteban__
[18:32] <SchrodingersScat> !es | esteban__
[18:32] <hypfer> uhm, hi. i'm looking for something like the "Play to" contect menu on windows which plays the currently selected file onto a DLNA renderer.
[18:32] <aarobc> new0: only moves the window within its current monitor
[18:33] <hypfer> does anyone have an idea?
[18:33] <kikimeter> ! packaging
[18:33] <new0> SchrodingersScat, sure thing. but how can i move the text from the terminal with command UI only?
[18:33] <new0> aarobc, Alt F7 or Alt F8
[18:33] <someHuman> What is my root password by default?
[18:34] <new0> aarobc, Alt + F7 (to move) or Alt + F8 (to resize). helpful?
[18:34] <someHuman> I am trying to do something via super user privileges
[18:34] <pacebl> someHuman: I don't think it gets set. You're intended to use sudo
[18:34] <esteban__> OK, thanks
[18:34] <new0> someHuman, none. you have to define it
[18:34] <someHuman> pacebl: So I can't use su - ?
[18:34] <Seven_Six_Two> someHuman, there isn't one, just use sudo with your own password
[18:34] <someHuman> Seven_Six_Two: Ok ,thanks!
[18:34] <pacebl> new0: Sorry I'm not more help, it's quite a complex issue dealing with the GUI
[18:34] <someHuman> Seven_Six_Two: How do I unzip files?
[18:34] <someHuman> And vice versa?
[18:34] <SchrodingersScat> new0: pastebinit is an option, so something like 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit'
[18:34] <Seven_Six_Two> someHuman, unzip or unrar
[18:34] <new0> someHuman, i think sudo su let's u move to "root" user
[18:35] <Seven_Six_Two> new0, that's not recommended
[18:35] <someHuman> new0: I avoid su - as much as possible, I might screw up my system especially am a noob.
[18:35] <someHuman> Seven_Six_Two: IKR>
[18:35] <someHuman> IKR.*
[18:35] <pacebl> Yeah, it's a bad idea to run as root for any amount of time
[18:35] <new0> pacebl, sure. well tnx for trying. and if u know someone that can help ask if can help me. tnx:)
[18:35] <pacebl> new0: I'll take a look at your pastebin if you can get it working. :)
[18:36] <Seven_Six_Two> aarobc, what desktop do you use?
[18:36] <aarobc> Seven_Six_Two: just using unity
[18:36] <rww> someHuman, new0: apart from philosophical issues, sudo su is inferior to sudo -i
[18:36] <aarobc> It gets a lot of hate but I like it.
[18:37] <new0> Seven_Six_Two, someHuman , right. sorry about it. i am a newbie. and tnx for letting me know
[18:37] <new0> pacebl, sure deal
[18:37] <pacebl> aarobc: You aren't alone, I like Unity too
[18:37] <Seven_Six_Two> aarobc, only bc each has its own hotkeys. It also matters whether you have one desktop or two. Can you drag windows from one to the other?
[18:37] <new0> rww, someHuman i will add to rww, sudo -i == sudo -s
[18:38] <rww> kinda. -i gives you a login shell, -s doesn't
[18:38] <rww> which occasionally matters, but not usually
[18:38] <aarobc> Seven_Six_Two: Yeah I can use the mouse to move windows, but I seem to recall being able to move windows between monitors in 13.04
[18:39] <gotama> Hello guys
[18:39] <new0> how can i check if pastebinit is installed?
[18:39] <gotama> My dist-upgrade is taken over 2 hrs already would it be dangerous to cancel it
[18:39] <gotama> Ive just installed 14.04 fresh
[18:39] <gotama> and i was running that dist-upgrade before installing gnome3
[18:40] <gotama> i need to get this pc done within 4hrs and im really concerned that this dist upgrade is gonna take to long
[18:40] <gotama> its on get 36 atm
[18:40] <Seven_Six_Two> aarobc, do you get an overlay if you hold down the super (win) key?
[18:41] <Seven_Six_Two> aarobc, I don't use unity, so I can't investigate
[18:41] <bekks> new0: sudo su is a bad idea. Use sudo -i
[18:41] <aarobc> Seven_Six_Two: yeah, and I was looking at those, but the shortcuts seem to only work within a monitor
[18:42] <utack> does anyone have experience, what to do when adobe flash installed, activated in firefox, and still not working?
[18:42] <pacebl> new0: which pastebinit
[18:42] <utack> where would i start?
[18:42] <new0> bekks, ok. tnx. how can i  check if pastebinit is install?
[18:42] <pacebl> new0: If it returns nothing, it isn't installed
[18:42] <supergauntlet> just curious bekks why is that?
[18:43] <new0> pacebl, ok. does it installed by default?
[18:43] <pacebl> new0: I'm not sure
[18:43] <utack> ah well...that was easy https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adobe-flashplugin/+bug/1284479
[18:43] <pacebl> new0: It's on my system, looks like it
[18:43] <pacebl> new0: That's no guarantee though
[18:44] <Seven_Six_Two> aarobc, how about alt+f7 + arrow key
[18:44] <the_eye_> Any way to see RAM speed without be root ?
[18:44] <jhutchins> the_eye_: Yes, use sudo.
[18:45] <Seven_Six_Two> aarobc, sorry, I just tried that on mine, and it's not what you need....I didn't know about that though
[18:45] <the_eye_> jhutchins, I can't use sudo, I am not a sudoer
[18:46] <new0> pacebl, ok, i tried to install it and it's say it's already installed.
[18:46] <Seven_Six_Two> aarobc, there we go. alt+f7  then shift+direction key
[18:46] <Jordan_U> the_eye_: Why do you want to know the RAM speed?
[18:46] <jhutchins> the_eye_: dmidecode works too, but you probably need sudo.
[18:46] <jhutchins> the_eye_: If you don't have sudo, why are you looking at ram speed?  Is it your system or not?
[18:46] <the_eye_> Jordan_U, I want to use it in a shell script
[18:47] <bekks> new0: Look at the package manager.
[18:47] <Jordan_U> the_eye_: What is your end goal? Why does this script need to know the RAM speed?
[18:47] <pacebl> new0: Okay, run "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and give us the URL
[18:47] <the_eye_> Jordan_U, its a hardware info script. But I don't want to user root rights.
[18:48] <new0> pacebl, bekks, anyway, i am trying to running /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit but it's give   me  -bash: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: Pernission denied. when i run sudo     /var/...Xorg.log | pastebinit it's give me command not found. You aretrying to send an empty document, exiting.
[18:49] <new0> bekks, i have only command line
[18:49] <pacebl> new0: Run it the way I typed
[18:49] <Jordan_U> the_eye_: Similar to "lshw"?
[18:49] <pacebl> new0: The problem is you're missing cat, so it's trying to run the file as a program. But you don't need to use cat in the first place, just run pastebinit <file>
[18:49] <bekks> pacebl: Your command is wrong.
[18:50] <bekks> new0: sudo pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:50] <new0> pacebl, you are the best :) -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7374921
[18:50] <the_eye_> jhutchins, I want to share my hardware info script with others, but I don't want to requires root permisions
[18:50] <pacebl> bekks: ? On my Ubuntu machine /var/log/Xorg.*.log is world readable
[18:50] <pacebl> bekks: I double checked it worked as a normal user
[18:50] <the_eye_> Jordan_U, Yes like lshw but more minimal
[18:50] <pacebl> ^ It worked for new0 too, yw
[18:51] <new0> pacebl, what is yw?
[18:51] <pacebl> new0: Sorry, it means you're welcome :)
[18:51] <new0> pacebl, also what is cat? missing cat
[18:52] <new0> pacebl, np, tnx :)
[18:52] <new0> pacebl, with the time i will learn this owl  lexicon
[18:52] <pacebl> new0: cat reads a file and prints it to "standard out". You could do "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit", so cat reads the file to stdout, the pipe carries the output of cat to the input of pastebinit
[18:52] <joeuser> on a default load what desktop environment does 14.04 LTS use ?  *sorry total newb here
[18:52] <pacebl> new0: But pastebinit can read files itself, so that's why I had you just do "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.conf"
[18:53] <pacebl> joeuser: Unity
[18:53] <pacebl> new0: It looks like your problem might be on line 184. Do you have an nVidia card? It's failing to load the nVidia driver
[18:54] <zteam> Hi all!
[18:54] <Locke2002> Wow, that's a really useful program
[18:54] <new0> bekks, didn't have to use sudo thought
[18:54] <Eagleman77> Any idea why 127.0.0.1 somehow resolves to sub.domain.tld when connecting trough to mysql: http://pastebin.com/n97T8TCf ?
[18:54] <AR0W> hello
[18:55] <nicklas_> hello, anyone knows if nvidia-prime is available for any other dist/s than ubuntu and derivatives?
[18:55] <AR0W> need a hand over here, ubuntu keeps changing me my damn keyboard layout, i ve searched on google but nothing appears any tips please?
[18:55] <new0> pacebl, wow. tnx for the linux tutorial m8. so basically cat is a linux program
[18:55] <bekks> Eagleman77: check your /etc/hosts
[18:55] <zteam> Anybody knows a good software for ripping TV-shows of a DVD (iso-image) which is able to extract every episode as a separate file?
[18:56] <new0> pacebl, nVidia? yes! GT330M
[18:56] <zteam> like MKV or AVI?
[18:56] <bekks> new0: Thats an nvidia optimus chipset.
[18:56] <Eagleman77> bekks: http://pastebin.com/9aciSJRS
[18:57] <joeuser> are there any cool locations (sites) to find a large selection of themes for unity (14.04)
[18:57] <bekks> new0: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[18:57] <pacebl> new0: np, always happy to talk about linux. :) I don't know much about hybrid chipsets, I'm not sure how you'd go about fixing your issue
[18:57] <fathy__> hiiii
[18:58] <bekks> new0: Just follow that link and install the packages needed.
[18:58] <zteam> jouser yes, there is, Unity uses Gnome / Metacity themes, and there is a lot of themes on http://www.gnome-look.org
[18:58] <Eagleman77> Any idea why 127.0.0.1 somehow resolves to sub.domain.tld when connecting trough to mysql: http://pastebin.com/n97T8TCf , this is my hosts file:  http://pastebin.com/9aciSJRS and this are the permissions for users on phpmyadmin: http://imagebin.org/308546
[18:58] <joeuser> ty zteam
[18:59] <bekks> Eagleman77: Why dont you use "localhost"? :)
[18:59] <new0> pacebl, sure.. but without your help and bekks i could get so far
[18:59] <zteam> joeuser, you are welcome
[18:59] <Eagleman77> bekks yeh that was giving a whole set of other errors on postfix, this config always worked until now
[18:59] <bekks> Eagleman77: Worked fine for me using localhost, for a postfix virtual user setup.
[18:59] <fathy> ???
[19:00] <Eagleman77> bekks if i replace 127.0.0.1 with localhost i am getting: warning: connect to mysql server localhost: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[19:00] <Eagleman77>  purged all my firewall rules
[19:01] <trism> utack: is the plugin listed in about:plugins? are you using flashplugin-installer or adobe-flashplugin? which ubuntu version?
[19:01] <Eagleman77> bekks I was about to replace my postfix/dovecot server with exchange D: but now i need to fix this first
[19:01] <pacebl> new0: linux can be quite difficult. Give that webpage a shot and if you get completely stuck you can send me another message and I'll try to help out. Gotta get back to coding for the moment though
[19:01] <bekks> Eagleman77: you dont have to touch that part of mysql at all. Better fix the postfix install then :)
[19:02] <Eagleman77> bekks well its not a postfix issue i think
[19:02] <awesomess3> Why does Ubuntu have adobe-flash-plugin-installer in the software section if it's an older Adobe Flash plug-in than the one at the Adobe website?
[19:02] <new0> pacebl, sure it is, and i will (started already), and np, also just carius? what coding?
[19:03] <utack> trism, sorry should've included it. firefox 29, ubuntu 14.04, adobe-flashplugin, and yes. with status active
[19:03] <the_eye_> awesomess3, Adobes stops linux updates for flash
[19:03] <pacebl> new0: Just school work, I'm a Computer Science student. I'm writing a shell script that does some network scanning :)
[19:04] <awesomess3> the_eye_, Adobe still releases security updates for flash on Linux. In fact, they released a new version like 1.5 weeks ago.
[19:04] <awesomess3> I'm 18% sure.
[19:04] <^Mike> Is there a way to tell ubuntu to replace all the 32-bit packages with 64? (as I'm now running a 64-bit kernel, that seems appropriate)
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> ^Mike  no, you have to reinstall
[19:05] <^Mike> ok, thanks
[19:05] <hamnstar> ^Mike: I think a reinstall of the base OS would be more efficient.  If you have /home on a separate partition this is easiest
[19:05] <Beldar> ^Mike, In genral if you are running 64 bit you get whats available in 64, not all pckgs are 64
[19:06] <Jonii> Hello
[19:07] <Jonii> My Ubuntu 14.04 default browser tried asking if I wanted to install websites as apps
[19:07] <Beldar> ^Mike, I have assumed you are running a 64 bit install however.
[19:07] <Jonii> Now it stopped doing that, and while I kinda like the quiet, I'd want to know if there is a way to toggle getting these notifications or not?
[19:07] <meway> How to get musics on my ipod? :D
[19:07] <meway> anyone?
[19:08] <Jonii> I can't find any mention of this functionality in any settings menu or anything
[19:08] <Jonii> All google finds are references where this functionality seems to come from some undiluted celestial origin no man can touch or even understand
[19:08] <Beldar> Jonii, There are several addons that I use one is addblock plus and a flash blocker noscript
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> Jonii  and ghostery plugin
[19:09] <Jonii> Beldar: it's not like that. I know firefox addons, but this was... like, "Use the website like Unity-integrated desktop application"?
[19:09] <Beldar> Jonii, Sure, can you give us a link?
[19:10] <Jonii> To what?
[19:10] <new0> pacebl, good for you. keep it up :)
[19:10] <Beldar> Jonii, the wbsite you saw this at, I have never heard of this.
[19:10] <Jonii> Reddit and Youtube are pages where at first Firefox suggested installing these webpages as apps
[19:10] <Eagleman77> bekks i fixed the nasty issue, i added the user mail permissions to sub.domain.tld in phpmyadmin
[19:10] <Eagleman77> somehow 127.0.0.1 was not picked up correctly
[19:11] <Jonii> But when I refreshed those pages, the notification disappeared and I couldn't get it reappear
[19:11] <Beldar> Jonii, Ah, unity has links to some external stuff, I use the gnome-shell, so other unity users will be better help.
[19:11] <zteam> Jonii, that functionality is provdied by a addon, that's why it isn't exposed in the menus
[19:12] <Jonii> zteam: ah, webapps?
[19:13] <Jonii> None of the preinstalled addons/extensions seem to have any settings to them that I could modify
[19:14] <Beldar> Jonii, look in the firefox addons there is unity-website-integration that is probably the issue here.
[19:15] <Beldar> I have mine off, even when I ran unity
[19:15] <awesomess3> Jonii, maybe try going to about:config and searching for 'add' or 'addons' or 'facebook'
[19:15] <zteam> Jonii, it's unity-website-integration just like Beldar says :-)
[19:16] <awesomess3> Jonii, or 'desktop' or 'application'
[19:18] <junka> Jonii, check firefox preferences on general tab there is "desktop intergration" box
[19:19] <Jonii> Oh, right
[19:19] <awesomess3> Jonii, how did you not see that option?
[19:20] <awesomess3> -_-
[19:20] <Jonii> I did not expect it to be the first item on the first tab :p
[19:20] <Jonii> That place is usually reserved for default page you go to and such
[19:26] <knittl> hi. I noticed yesterday, that my mouse won't move vertically when using the trackpoint (only horizontally (or diagonally)). using the touchpad works as expected
[19:26] <new0> pacebl, hi. i think it did something but maybe i haven't       follow it through. it's say make sure u dont have any          driver installed. well, maybe i forgot this part. now how can i           uninstall nvidia drivers?
[19:26] <knittl> any idea?
[19:27] <guntbert> knittl: sandkorn or such a thing under it - remove it , clean it, replace it
[19:27] <knittl> hrm. maybe it's the new xorg
[19:28] <emersonp> #emberjs
[19:29] <new0> anyone know how to remove any nvidia drivers?
[19:30] <holstein> new0: sure.. depends on how you installed them..
[19:31] <iscsinoob> did something change in 14.04 that ignores 70-persistent-net-rules
[19:31] <new0> holstein, via terminal i think
[19:31] <pacebl> new0: "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" should tell you all the nvidia drivers you have installed
[19:31] <holstein> new0: confirm, let a volunteer here know, and they can assiste
[19:31] <holstein> assist*
[19:31] <iscsinoob> new0, and my condolences on having nvidia ethernet
[19:32] <holstein> new0: these are ethernet drivers? you shouldnt need to add ethernet drivers..
[19:32] <pacebl> holstein: He has an nvidia hybrid gpu. We're trying to get X11 working
[19:33] <iscsinoob> oh it's a gpu not ethernet
[19:33] <new0> pacebl, tnx. and how can i see the list screen by screen?
[19:33] <new0> holstein, what?
[19:33] <pacebl> new0: Were there a lot? "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | less"
[19:34] <new0> iscsinoob, it's not ethernet. it's display GT330M
[19:34] <iscsinoob> yeah I read that now
[19:35] <new0> pacebl, not sure. but it give me lots of list and in the end it's mark for me in red (so it was on the bottom of the list i think)
[19:35] <jhutchins> knittl: Could be hardware.
[19:35] <new0> iscsinoob, that's ok :)
[19:36] <iscsinoob> sorry, i'm so used to thinking about their early buggy chipsets, I forget they make gpu's also
[19:37] <iscsinoob> like their wonderful hardware firewall that caused bsod's and random packet corruption
[19:37] <iscsinoob> or their early nics that like to just stop responding to packets
[19:37] <iscsinoob> ugh
[19:39] <iscsinoob> the rumor is starting with nFARCE5, they bought 3rd party silicon ip for sata, nic and apic and swapped their failures out
[19:42] <new0> why "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" list them with red and "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | less" doesn't?
[19:42] <iscsinoob> anyone run into ubuntu 70-persistant-net-rules
[19:42] <iscsinoob> ignoring it
[19:42] <iscsinoob> I think it has to do with networkmanager
[19:42] <iscsinoob> what a worthless pile of shit
[19:42] <holstein> iscsinoob: havent ran into that.. try somewhere where those settings might come up. a server channel, or the general mailing list
[19:42] <holstein> !language
[19:43] <iscsinoob> ok
[19:43] <iscsinoob> I mean networkmanger not ubuntu
[19:43] <iscsinoob> I seen this on other linux distros as well
[19:44] <knittl> guntbert: no, I already took the plastic off and looked underneath
[19:44] <knittl> jhutchins: i doubt it. I suspect xorg.conf
[19:44] <mjuszczak> I'm running 3.8.0-29-generic, and trying to get virtuabox working, but for some reason 3.8.0 headers aren't in apt
[19:45] <holstein> mjuszczak: nothing is in apt. are the packages you are looking for not in the repositories?
[19:45] <mjuszczak> sorry, no, they aren't :(
[19:45] <holstein> mjuszczak: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:45] <holstein> ^ thats a good start.. and report errors
[19:45] <mjuszczak> already ran it :(
[19:46] <holstein> mjuszczak: ok.. run it again, and see that there are no errors..
[19:46] <k1l> mjuszczak: 3.8 means running 13.04 which is out of support anyway
[19:46] <holstein> mjuszczak: you are on 12,04?
[19:46] <new0> how to check running servie?
[19:46] <holstein> new0: ps aux
[19:46] <mjuszczak> I'm on 14.04
[19:46] <k1l> mjuszczak: no, 14.04 got kernel 3.13
[19:46] <holstein> mjuszczak: not with that kernel.. if so, thats why the headers are not in the repositories
[19:47] <mjuszczak> matt@lappy:~$ cat /etc/issue.net
[19:47] <mjuszczak> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[19:47] <new0> holstein, tnx.
[19:47] <holstein> mjuszczak: the headers for the 14.04 kernels are in the 14.04 repositories
[19:47] <k1l> mjuszczak: and "uname -a"?
[19:47] <mjuszczak> Linux lappy 3.8.0-29-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 13 19:40:39 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:47] <holstein> mjuszczak: is this a hosted service? where did you install? and is this an upgrade?
[19:48] <new0> i am connected with ssh to my laptop and want to kill the service lightdm so i can  go back to terminal. but it's not really dong it
[19:48] <new0> *doing it
[19:48] <mjuszczak> holstein: it's my local laptop.  Upgraded through the GUI program that popped up.
[19:48] <k1l> new0: sudo lightdm stop
[19:49] <new0> k1l, that was i did. what else?
[19:49] <jhutchins> mjuszczak: Have you rebooted since?
[19:49] <new0> k1l, now it's just blank screen
[19:49] <holstein> mjuszczak: im not sure what has happend with your upgrade, but that kernel is not in the 14.04 repos, which is why you dont have the headers for it
[19:49] <k1l> new0: that is waht you wanted
[19:49] <jhutchins> new0: Ctrl-Alt-F1
[19:49] <Jordan_U> k1l: new0: sudo service lightdm stop
[19:50] <new0> k1l, ok, than how can i kill all serivce that r equal to lightdm?
[19:50] <k1l> new0: press ctrl+alt+F1 to get to konsole
[19:50] <k1l> on that laptop
[19:50] <k1l> new0: what are you doung there anyway?
[19:51] <k1l> mjuszczak: what does uname -a give you?
[19:51] <new0> jhutchins, not working (right now), Jordan_U already did and just kick me from GUI
[19:51] <k1l> mjuszczak: any reason you want to keep that kernel and dont run the 14.04 standard kernel?
[19:51] <new0> k1l, trying   to remove any  nvidia drives and install good one
[19:51] <mjuszczak> k1l: nope, I'd like to be fully on 14.04
[19:52] <k1l> new0: if you stop lightdm there will be no gui. that is right
[19:52] <mjuszczak> k1l: Linux lappy 3.8.0-29-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 13 19:40:39 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:52] <k1l> mjuszczak: do a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to get all pending updates
[19:52] <new0> k1l, my desktop manager not loading good. it's all the time let me login and run some terminal script... and kick       me back to login Interface
[19:53] <new0> k1l, right. but now i dont have even the command
[19:53] <holstein> new0: dont try and remove "any".. just remove what you have installed.. how did you install what drivers?
[19:53] <new0> k1l, all left to do is restart. which i am trying to avoid it from now
[19:53] <k1l> new0: press ctrl+alt+F1 on that laptop and you will have a login screen for a konsole
[19:54] <potatowedge> Hi, how can I prevent or extend the display timeout after locking the screen in Ubuntu 14.04 Unity? Any help would greatly be appreciated :) Thanks.
[19:54] <new0> holstein, my brother install me that. after he upgrade my system from 13.04 to 14.04 without me asking him. and now he can't help me :) BUMMER. k1l, right but it's only give me blank screen
[19:55] <srock> have him fix it
[19:55] <holstein> new0: ask your brother to remove what he installed..
[19:55] <srock> new
[19:55] <new0> holstein, k1l, no mouse blinking.. nothing. just white/dark screen with black   corners
[19:55] <holstein> !nomodeset
[19:56] <mjuszczak> k1l: I did
[19:56] <holstein> mjuszczak: did you indeed restart the machine? are you dual booting some other linux OS?
[19:56] <k1l> mjuszczak: did it update packages? especially the kernel ones?
[19:56] <junka> potatowedge, yes in setting then brightness and lock
[19:56] <new0> holstein, good luck reching him :) but whatever.. i will just restart Again :(
[19:56] <junka> settings*
[19:57] <holstein> new0: restart?
[19:57] <new0> holstein, even Ctrl + Alt + Del doesn't work. it's like the laptop freezing
[19:57] <mjuszczak> holstein: no dual boot, yes rebooted.
[19:57] <mjuszczak> k1l: I think so...
[19:57] <new0> holstein, hard shutdown with the button
[19:57] <mjuszczak> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 24984015 Apr 23 15:29 initrd.img-3.8.0-29-generic
[19:57] <holstein> !tty | new0
[19:57] <mjuszczak> Seems to have installed the kernel the day I upgraded.
[19:57] <holstein> new0: there is also a recovery kernel mode
[19:58] <new0> holstein, what?tty
[19:58] <k1l> mjuszczak: can you please pastebin the output of the update command i gave you?
[19:58] <jackbrown> pls I'm stuck http://codepad.org/ay5IvVH3        ooooooo
[19:58] <holstein> new0: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66195/what-is-a-tty-and-how-do-i-access-a-tty
[19:58] <potatowedge> junka: I want to lock the screen (ctrl-alt-l) and not have my screen immediately powersave. 'Brightness & Lock' doesn't have this option.
[19:59] <srock> kill the power
[19:59] <new0> holstein, i am can login to the terminal, but after i was doing sudo service lightdm start and it give me the login GUI  and i loggin and kick me back to login again. so i did remove SSH to my laptop and did sudo service lightdm stop and that's what happen
[20:00] <holstein> new0: no need to remove ssh there
[20:00] <holstein> new0: i would remove your user config, and try with a fresh setup for the desktop
[20:00] <new0> holstein, i am sure it's just nvidia problem look: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7374921/ pacebl and bekks here helped me with it
[20:00] <holstein> new0: if you get "kicked back to the desktop" that can be due to a broken config that is crashing your desktop
[20:01] <holstein> new0: im not sure.. and i suggest trying the user config.. or, logging as a different user.. such as the guest account
[20:01] <Squarepy> how clean is a single partition update via liveudb from 12.04 to 14.04 which preserves the home directory?
[20:01] <Squarepy> liveusb*
[20:02] <mjuszczak> k1l: http://pastebin.com/40mXm3pS
[20:02] <new0> holstein, will do
[20:02] <holstein> new0: you should reinstall ssh so you can access the machine and *not* have to hard reboot..
[20:03] <holstein> new0: that is much different than saying the machine seems like its not on. if you can get to tty, or ssh in, thats a different issue than what you have previsously described
[20:03] <tom_connolly> I'm using xubuntu and upgraded to 14.04 of Ubuntu, and now can't contl-alt-t into terminal. Any tips?
[20:03] <k1l> mjuszczak: ok, what does "ls -al /boot" give you?
[20:03] <mjuszczak> k1l: http://pastebin.com/F6YLZrth
[20:04] <new0> holstein, already have ssh
[20:04] <k1l> mjuszczak: ok, did you change anything with the kernels?
[20:04] <mjuszczak> k1l: I did nothing custom :(
[20:04] <holstein> new0: you stated you removed ssh.. so, im just trying to sort out whats happening with your system
[20:04] <mjuszczak> k1l: Just ran the graphical installer
[20:04] <new0> holstein, ho, woow. i have guest user
[20:05] <holstein> new0: so, the issue is not the driver, or the system. its in your users config
[20:05] <new0> holstein, remove with ssh the *not remove but kill the lightdm with ssh remote
[20:05] <k1l> mjuszczak: please install the standard kernel "sudo apt-get install linux-image"
[20:06] <cjenkin2> I have a pretty weird (Spanish) keyboard. I have done some editing to the xkb-data to support it, but it has a ".com" key and I'm wondering if there's a way to get that working?
[20:06] <new0> holstein, great. so now i have pc running just not able to  go to my user
[20:07] <holstein> new0: sure.. so, clear out the user config, and test
[20:07] <new0> holstein, when is it?
[20:07] <holstein> new0: you can just temporarily move .config and test.. and put back what yo ulike.. or refer to http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[20:10] <mjuszczak> k1l: http://pastebin.com/MszyHFFT
[20:11] <k1l> mjuszczak: apt-cache policy linux-image-generic
[20:12] <patrick_> hello test
[20:12] <holstein> !info linux-generic
[20:12] <patrick_> hello test
[20:12] <holstein> i think its just "sudo apt-get install linux-generic" that will do it
[20:12] <holstein> patrick_: yes.. use /topic to view topics on channels you join
[20:12] <patrick_> does it work
[20:13] <holstein> patrick_: friend, if you have a support question, ask.. if not, enjoy the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat. thanks!
[20:13] <k1l> mjuszczak: yes, try a "sudo apt-get install linux-generic" that should install the right kernel and the headers
[20:13] <mjuszczak> k1l: http://pastebin.com/vJN91Ddd
[20:13] <patrick_> thanks
[20:15] <Cydrobolt> ignore my two previous messages...they were sent accidentally
[20:15] <jhutchins> new0: Do you ever run GUI programs as root?
[20:17] <Kalel> Greetings..
[20:18] <Kalel> I want to enable a swap. Something went wrong while installin'..
[20:18] <Kalel> With gparted I'm able to?
[20:19] <bekks> Kalel: You dont need gparted to do so.
[20:19] <_2_Chabelita262> hola algun hombre
[20:19] <Kalel> bekks: yes...
[20:20] <Kalel> bekks: How to proceed?
[20:20] <_2_Chabelita262> chile
[20:20] <bekks> Kalel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33697/how-do-i-add-a-swap-partition-after-system-installation
[20:21] <Locke2002> _2_Chabelita262: ¿Quieres canal #ubuntu-es-cafe?
[20:21] <junka> !es | _2_Chabelita262
[20:22] <Kalel> Thanks, bekks.. I'll check it out..
[20:23] <hparmet> hpaj
[20:23] <new0> jhutchins, sorry for the big delay my pc was fronzen 256MB mem. and to ur Q: i don't think so. why?
[20:23] <juniorsa> Hi - I have several servers running ISPConfig with ubuntu 12.04LTS and I was wondering if anyone had any issues upgrading to 14.04LTS - too soon to tell?
[20:24] <Kalel> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7375440/
[20:24] <holstein> juniorsa: should be fine, but you should test for yourself locally, or where ever you test.. 12.04 is still supported
[20:24] <bekks> Kalel: And?
[20:25] <Jordan_U> juniorsa: Also note that you won't even be promted to upgrade until 14.04.1.
[20:25] <juniorsa> Jordan_U: so maybe it's safer to wait until 14.04.1 is out?
[20:25] <Jordan_U> juniorsa: I would say so.
[20:25] <Kalel> bekks: Can you see, there already swap..
[20:25] <k1l> !away > WLM|zzzzz
[20:25] <bekks> Kalel: And whats the issue at that point?
[20:26] <mjuszczak> k1l: So the laptop booted after installing that kernel with no wifi and horrible resolution.  I ended up having to boot from a 13.10 rescue USB stick ... :(
[20:26] <k1l> juniorsa: if you want LTS you want to wait for 14.04.1 to make the upgrade, yes
[20:26] <Kalel> bekks: Never mind.... Figured it...
[20:26] <juniorsa> ok so I'll wait until 14.04.1 any idea on timeframe?
[20:26] <PlotCitizen> Hello, I've been trying to copy the entire filesystem of a remote server with scp and I can't figure out the command. scp -P 2222 root@localhost:/ /Volumes/External/Backup <This won't run, saying scp: /: not a regular file
[20:26] <holstein> mjuszczak: you'll want to address those.. its likely as easy as just install the modules you need
[20:26] <k1l> juniorsa: 24th july
[20:27] <mjuszczak> k1l: It's no big deal, I don't have anything on this laptop worth saving
[20:27] <juniorsa> ooooh that's far away :(
[20:27] <mjuszczak> holstein: hrm.  Is there an easy solution to that?
[20:27] <Jordan_U> When I try to use GNU indent on file on a CIFS mount ("indent test.txt") I get the error message "indent: Fatal Error: Can't stat input file test.txt \n indent: System Error: Value too large for defined data type" I'm using mount.cifs version 6.0 on Ubuntu 14.04 and mounting with "sudo mount.cifs //Server_Name/share_name /mnt/ -o user=samba_username,uid=$UID,gid=$GID". Any ideas why this might be happening, and how to fix it?
[20:27] <new0> holstein, does running terminal on the guest session with ssh login as my user will do the job?
[20:27] <k1l> juniorsa: you could do the upgrade with the developer parameter.
[20:27] <juniorsa> if we want to upgrade php to 5.4 what is the recommended way
[20:27] <juniorsa> k1l: is it wise - these are production servers
[20:28] <jhutchins> new0: It's common for people to mess up their homedir when running GUI apps as root.
[20:28] <reisio> is it that common for people to run GUI apps as root? :)
[20:28] <k1l> reisio: its a bad habbit.
[20:28] <PlotCitizen> Jordan_U: I'm thinking the value's too large for the defined data type.
[20:28] <Jordan_U> PlotCitizen: You're missing -r, but you should also probably use rsync for this instead of scp.
[20:29] <chicognu> how to invoke start up disk creator from a terminal emulator ?
[20:29] <Kalel> bekks: How much is the ideal for swap? I've got 5gb ram..
[20:29] <new0> jhutchins, so maybe i did. but i just running this ubuntu    for PHP development
[20:29] <bekks> Kalel: If you want to use hibernation, you need 5GB swap at least.
[20:29] <Jordan_U> PlotCitizen: Please try to limit your comments to those that are actually helpful.
[20:29] <mjuszczak> holstein: Is there an easy way to switch back to the old kernel?
[20:30] <chicognu> how to invoke start up disk creator from a terminal emulator ? i use xfce so no dash
[20:30] <holstein> mjuszczak: its still in your grub list, but you dont want to
[20:30] <k1l> mjuszczak: how did you install the video driver?
[20:30] <holstein> new0: you can blow out your config from a live CD
[20:31] <new0> jhutchins, holstein, just a causion. does reseting unity will destroy some of my personal files in home dir?
[20:31] <reisio> k1l: "habit"? :p
[20:31] <holstein> new0: its literally just moving some files out of the users home.. just open a file manager,a nd move/rename them
[20:31] <holstein> new0: no.. but, you should have, and are welcome to make backups of your personal files, since *all* hard drives fail
[20:31] <new0> holstein, ok. what kind of files? i rather  do it manually so   i will know
[20:32] <Kalel> bekks: I have some free space on my hd and I'll format and use it as swap. The question is: which format?  fat or ext?
[20:32] <Pessimist> Kalel, there is a special filesystem called swap
[20:32] <holstein> new0: what i suggested, and still suggest is.. trying http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[20:32] <holstein> new0: ^ you can do that from tty.. then, if that doesnt work, you can move .config, as i said, from your users /home using a live CD or anything you like
[20:32] <Kalel> Pessimist: I'll do it with gparted. There's not.
[20:33] <new0> holstein, i did.     but it said using some tool which i dont want it. or maybe i should it all before i am    talking here?
[20:33] <PlotCitizen> Thanks, Jordan_U. I'm sorry I couldn't be of any help.
[20:33] <Pessimist> Kalel, idk if it's really a file system. But basically create a linux partition and run mkswap /dev/whatever
[20:34] <OerHeks> Kalel, filetype is nr 82 for swap
[20:34] <new0> holstein, suer. this is why i was asking for the path of that config
[20:34] <OerHeks> !swap
[20:34] <holstein> new0: then, move on to the next step
[20:34] <holstein> new0: ~/.config
[20:34] <holstein> new0: its in your user home
[20:34] <Kalel> Got it.
[20:34] <mjuszczak> holstein: Well, booting 3.8 gives me networking :) 3.13 gives me a non working machine. :(
[20:34] <Pessimist> Kalel, Swap partitions are usually type 82 but I'm reading now that you should be able to setup a swap any partition type as swap
[20:35] <Pessimist> to setup swap on any partition type*
[20:35] <holstein> mjuszczak: not really .. in 3.13, you likely havent installed the modules you need
[20:35] <new0> holstein, ls -? to see hidden files?
[20:35] <holstein> mjuszczak: you should check and just install whatever modules you need, if you dont have them
[20:35] <holstein> new0: i use control h from a file manager.. you can do it as you please.. but, yes, its hidden
[20:36] <k1l> mjuszczak: i bet you made some changes with videodrivers that now make trouble. easiest would be to make a standard video driver install and solve that issue
[20:36] <Firebolt1914> hello
[20:36] <holstein> new0: dont over think it. just move or rename it.. you dont need to delete anything
[20:36] <SchrodingersScat> new0: I don't see -? in the manual for ls
[20:36] <reisio> partition type is pretty meaningless :)
[20:36] <Firebolt1914> how do i disable the login manager?
[20:37] <holstein> !nogui
[20:37] <reisio> GNU/Linux also doesn't care much about logical vs extended
[20:37] <k1l> !text | Firebolt1914
[20:37] <new0> SchrodingersScat, sure. but it was a Q. like if the is ls for hidden files
[20:38] <Pessimist> Firebolt1914, linux mint is not supported here
[20:38] <OerHeks> Firebolt1914, go into 'accounts' and enable your account "automatic login"
[20:38] <Firebolt1914> thanks
[20:39] <Kalel> guys, I've got an error when booting and probably, it comes from that: UUID=7afa5096-2339-489b-9770-ad6cce03cd45 /               ext2    errors=remount-ro ---- Should I chech with '#' to fix it?
[20:40] <reisio> Kalel: uh, what's the error?
[20:40] <Kalel> and the new swap doesn't need a '#', right? I'm editing fstab
[20:41] <Kalel> reisio: Error while mounting / -- when booting
[20:41] <reisio> Kalel: does it keep you from booting the OS?
[20:41] <mjuszczak> k1l: I really didn't do anything custom :(
[20:41] <Kalel> reisio: But, if I just press 'I' to ignore, nothing happens..
[20:41] <holstein> mjuszczak: you have had some meta-packages, such as the linux-generic one, removed
[20:41] <Kalel> reisio: So, nope..
[20:41] <new0> holstein, ok the tty u gave me i guess i already use it. but tnx. anyway i did mv .config/ .config.backup
[20:41] <reisio> Kalel: pastebin your /etc/fstab
[20:42] <new0> holstein, so, now i can       logout and login?
[20:42] <k1l> mjuszczak: see the dmesg.0 (or dmesg.1) from the 3.13 boot in /var/log
[20:42] <mjuszczak> k1l: If I could at least get the modules installed for my wifi and vide odrivers at least I could boot into 13.13 and figure it out from there
[20:42] <Kalel> reisio: sure..
[20:42] <holstein> new0: thats the question..
[20:42] <reisio> Kalel: oh, so yes it does keep you from booting to the OS?
[20:42] <new0> holstein, yes
[20:42] <new0> holstein, i really don't how linux work
[20:42] <new0> holstein, maybe a little
[20:42] <holstein> new0: you try logging in now.. so, yes.. can you login?
[20:42] <new0> holstein, sorry i make u crazy :)
[20:42] <Kalel> reisio: yes.. The error hang the system. I have to press ignore..
[20:43] <new0> holstein, sorry. i meant after i rename this .config i can logout from guest session and try to login with my user?
[20:43] <Kalel> reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7375580/ -- the line number 13 was made now..
[20:43] <reisio> Kalel: you have to press ignore... to boot to the OS and use it normally?
[20:43] <Kalel> a new swap.
[20:43] <Kalel> reisio: Yes.
[20:44] <holstein> new0: thats preceisely what i im asking.. can you login as your user?
[20:44] <new0> holstein,  will try
[20:44] <reisio> Kalel: so the only problem is that there's an error _message_ you don't like
[20:44] <Kalel> reisio: Seeing my fstab, I presume that its the error..
[20:44] <reisio> Kalel: you presume what is?
[20:44] <Kalel> reisio: basically yes..
[20:44] <holstein> Kalel: you mean, message? or error?
[20:44] <mjuszczak> k1l: Now linux-generic is installing ... linux-image-extra-3.13.0-24-generic - will that potentially contain my drivers?
[20:45] <Kalel> reisio: holstein: A MESSAGE OF AN ERROR... :-)
[20:45] <OerHeks> many swap partitions + encrypted disk ?
[20:45] <k1l> mjuszczak: yes. and make sure the headers are installed too
[20:45] <reisio> Kalel: your / is ext2?
[20:45] <k1l> mjuszczak: they are needed for wifi and video modules to be build
[20:46] <Kalel> reisio: Yes..
[20:46] <mjuszczak> thx
[20:46] <Kalel> reisio: Do you thing I should check that line?
[20:47] <reisio> Kalel: you made it ext2 on purpose? Why are there commented lines?
[20:47] <NTGlink> anyone good with RAID setups here?
[20:48] <Kalel> reisio: To be honestly, I did anything and I don't know either...
[20:48] <Jordan_U> NTGlink: Try asking your actual question and find out :)
[20:48] <holstein> Kalel: why did you deviate from the installer defaults?
[20:48] <linuxuz3r> whats a good pdf viewer that has highlight and annotation tool
[20:48] <holstein> what special needs?
[20:48] <reisio> linuxuz3r: xournal?
[20:48] <new0> holstein, no i still can't. also i think by mistake i override my .config dir after the   second time i did mv .config   .config.backup is there a way to restore it?
[20:48] <linuxuz3r> can it save reisio
[20:48] <NTGlink> Does it make any sense to have RAID 5, 5 Drives, 2 virt. disks, and both stripped across all drives with differnt sizes?
[20:49] <Kalel> holstein: I didn't. I don't know what went wrong..
[20:49] <new0> holstein, if it's just a system/user settings and not personal data forget about it. also how can i move on to the next check?
[20:49] <reisio> NTGlink: nope
[20:50] <holstein> new0: yes.. there are plenty of ways to restore.. but, you are not getting rid of the proper config
[20:50] <Kalel> holstein: reisio: Should I check the thing or what?
[20:51] <holstein> new0: if you can login as guest user, and, you are able to login as your user via ssh or tty, then, your users config for the graphical environment is causing an issue
[20:51] <holstein> Kalel: i test hard drives when ever an issue comes up..
[20:51] <NTGlink> and yet partitioned again in the OS. Sounds to me that's where thier slow down is happening
[20:51] <holstein> Kalel: im just trying to determine how you got ubuntu installed on ext2 with no swap?
[20:52] <new0> holstein, hold on. you say ssh or tty. isn't tty just the terminal?
[20:52] <NTGlink> turn the swap off
[20:52] <holstein> new0: i saying *either* ssh or tty
[20:52] <NTGlink> hell you can use gparted for that
[20:52] <Kalel> holstein: By default, is which format?
[20:52] <new0> holstein, and sure, i can login to my pc as textual mode
[20:52] <holstein> new0: that means, you have your pasword correct, and your user is "good"
[20:52] <NTGlink> then tatke out the swap part.
[20:52] <holstein> new0: if you can login with the guest, then, your nvidia driver and sytem are not the issue
[20:53] <new0> holstein, sure. i can login. with this ssh and the login with the text mode (terminal?!)
[20:53] <NTGlink> I have had it where I installed the wrong Nvidia driver and had to drop to tty and remove it
[20:54] <holstein> new0: correct. so, im just helping you see where the issue is
[20:54] <new0> holstein, right. now i am following u. so.. graphical user setting issue? isn't it the ~/.config?
[20:54] <holstein> new0: its in *some* config for the GUI
[20:54] <zsandu> guys, with an lsblk command I can see what partitions i have on my disk
[20:54] <holstein> new0: i'll just move them all.. literallyl anything with a . in front, and test.. then, put back what i want/need
[20:54] <zsandu> but when i run the ubuntu liveUSB it does not manage to see them
[20:55] <new0> holstein, ok. when can i find it? or remove it / recreate it
[20:55] <holstein> new0: but, i dont let my brother upgrade my system..
[20:55] <zsandu> it sees everything as free space
[20:55] <zsandu> any ideas?
[20:55] <holstein> new0: just "move".. with a file manager.. in a live CD..
[20:56] <new0> holstein, ok. anything in my ~/ that start with "." (prefix)? right
[20:56] <Kalel> holstein: reisio: How about I change: errors=remount-ro for 'sw'  ??
[20:57] <holstein> new0: thats what i said i would do if i were sitting idle, and couldnt figure out what was breaking my installation
[20:57] <Kalel> instead check with a #
[20:57] <holstein> new0: i would just move them.. not delete. then, test
[20:57] <holstein> Kalel: what does that mean? check with a # ?
[20:57] <holstein> Kalel: you want to comment soemthing out?
[20:58] <new0> holstein, got it. tnx
[20:58] <Kalel> holstein: Common... To disable one line, we have to put a # on the front, right?
[20:58] <Kalel> holstein: Yes, comment...
[20:58] <aniello_> ciao
[20:58] <holstein> Kalel: common?
[20:59] <aniello_> !list
[20:59] <new0> how can i delete a dir?
[20:59] <holstein> Kalel: you messed with the fstab?
[20:59] <holstein> new0: dont.. just move them.. you can use a live CD, and a normal file manager
[20:59] <Kalel> holstein: No I didn't... I'm trying to fix that file. Do you understand my problem?
[21:00] <jbhyv> hiù
[21:00] <Kalel> I hhave error, No swap....
[21:00] <reisio> new0: rmdir
[21:00] <jbhyv> !list
[21:00] <mjuszczak> installing the extras package worked, thanks guys
[21:00] <pacebl> That's amazing
[21:00] <holstein> Kalel: if you didnt break it, im tring to understand why you are trying to fix it? and why its broken, if it is
[21:00] <reisio> pacebl: yup
[21:00] <holstein> Kalel: no swap is not an error, if you set it up that way during install
[21:00] <pacebl> I want ubottu to DCC me Ubuntu serials :(
[21:00] <Pici> !hashes > pacebl
[21:00] <phuh> Anybody knows how to do this in Bash? http://youtu.be/MVw8N3hTfCI?t=1m3s It shows autocomplete ahead of time
[21:01] <Pici> phuh: that is fish, not bash.
[21:01] <phuh> oh fish..
[21:02] <SchrodingersScat> phuh: right, not bash
[21:02] <phuh> nice! is fish any good? do you guys use it?
[21:03] <flound1129> why is it impossible to change the number of workspaces in unity?
[21:03] <pacebl> flound1129: Because design(tm), reasons and magic.
[21:03] <flound1129> why is unity tweak only available as a web download and not via apt-get?
[21:03] <flound1129> like WTF poeple
[21:04] <k1l> flound1129: "sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool"
[21:04] <Kalel> holstein: I think we've a misunderstand here. I selected on installation but it isn't active. ANOTHER error, is: when it is booting, I see a message on screen (under the ubuntu logo): error were found when trying to mount / - press S to skip mounting, I to ignore or M to fix manually. ------- Usually, I press "I and the system boot normally... The point is: Why the hell, this message shows up? Can it be because that line on fstab, or 
[21:04] <flound1129> E: Unable to locate package unity-tweak-tool
[21:04] <k1l> flound1129: which ubuntu are you on exactly?
[21:05] <flound1129> 12.04
[21:05] <new0> holstein, what is  the file manager that i can connect sftp over ssh something like "kru.." skusader?
[21:05] <k1l> flound1129: yeah, it was invented after 12.04
[21:05] <holstein> new0: you dont need to.. just use the one in the desktop from a live CD
[21:06] <holstein> new0: you can use gigolo from another system to connect via ssh, if you prefer.. and see that in the filemanager of your choice
[21:06] <k1l> flound1129: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34572/how-can-i-reduce-or-increase-the-number-of-workspaces-in-unity
[21:06] <holstein> new0: i just do it with a live CD, since it will take less than 2 minutes to accomplish that way
[21:06] <new0> holstein, ok. then how can i rename all the files/folder start with "."  with one command?
[21:07] <holstein> new0: i dont.. i just move them, with the mouse, into another folder
[21:07] <new0> holstein, i konw      but  i don't have it righ tnow
[21:07] <new0> *righ now
[21:07] <Ralkkai> flound1129: You could try Ubuntu Tweak
[21:07] <linuxlite1969> Hi, guys, can you read me?
[21:07] <holstein> new0: i dont do it in one command, since i want to be cautious, and this is not something that comes up often..
[21:07] <holstein> linuxlite1969: yes
[21:07] <reisio> linuxlite1969: nope
[21:08] <k1l> Ralkkai: no, not ubuntu tweak. that is not supported in here
[21:08] <Ralkkai> oh ok sorry
[21:08] <Kalel> Ok, thank you for your help.. I'll do what I think should do. With a little altruism.. If broke I'll reinstall..
[21:09] <yash069_> new0: it it Krusader ?
[21:09] <yash069_> new0: http://www.krusader.org/
[21:09] <new0> yash069_, tnx
[21:09] <linuxlite1969> Hi, holstein, I have been printing things for my kids for writing exercises etc. successfully with my wireless printer. Today, it's not working, even though printing from other sources online works, just not children's exercises or even some printable lined paper for the kids to write on. My linux computers are up to date. Do you know what's the problem?
[21:10] <wutGDS> hi guys
[21:10] <wutGDS> anyone in here?
[21:10] <k1l> linuxlite1969: linuxlite is not supported. please ask them
[21:10] <holstein> linuxlite1969: can you ping the printer? or access its web gui?
[21:10] <holstein> linuxlite1969: are you not using ubuntu?
[21:10] <wutGDS> holstein can you see what i type?
[21:10] <aarobc> isn't -v supposed to invert the results of a grep?
[21:10] <holstein> wutGDS: ?
[21:10] <wutGDS> okay it works :D
[21:11] <linuxlite1969> I have a linux lite and Ubuntu, both doing the same thing with the printer. The Ubuntu 12.04 isn't doing it either.
[21:11] <aarobc> because when I add it, the result is instead so matches at all
[21:11] <holstein> linuxlite1969: but it was?
[21:11] <flound1129> the point is I should have to download some extra package to change th e# of desktops..  it's a basic freaking thing
[21:11] <holstein> linuxlite1969: when?
[21:11] <flound1129> btw all of these tweak utils need like 50 other packages to install
[21:11] <linuxlite1969> Yes, just yesterday, and just yesterday we did some updates and also today.
[21:12] <holstein> linuxlite1969: some updates? to what? from where?
[21:12] <k1l> flound1129: you are free to submit a patch to gnome that will include that into the gnome basis :)
[21:12] <holstein> linuxlite1969: can you ping the printer? or access its webgui?
[21:13] <someHuman> How do I turn on Bluetooth for my PC?
[21:13] <someHuman> I can't see anything that I could use on my PC to turn on my Bluetooth.
[21:13] <holstein> !bluetooth
[21:13] <linuxlite1969> Updates for ubuntu and Linux Lite. The printer works with other online printables, but not certain ones. I have successfully done those other prints in the past.
[21:14] <holstein> linuxlite1969: certain ones? of what?
[21:14] <k1l> someHuman: see if the hardware works. then see if there is some power-off switch. see rfkill list if its blocked. if its set up you can just use the bluetooth indicator
[21:14] <holstein> linuxlite1969: if the printer is not functioning properly, start there
[21:14] <someHuman> k1l: rfkill list?
[21:14] <holstein> linuxlite1969: can you ping the printer? or go to with webgui??
[21:15] <holstein> linuxlite1969: please respond about pinging the pritner, or viewing its webgui
[21:15] <k1l> someHuman: that is a command. for the terminal
[21:15] <linuxlite1969> Like, I want some printable lined paper for the kids to write on. They won't print.  I don't know how to ping the printer or webgui?
[21:15] <someHuman> It isn't blocked.
[21:15] <someHuman> What do I do now?
[21:15] <linuxlite1969> What do you mean? Sorry
[21:16] <someHuman> k1l: What do I do now? How do I turn it on?
[21:16] <k1l> someHuman: does it list bluetooth in the output of rfkill?
[21:16] <holstein> linuxlite1969: so, the printer could be malfunctioning.. have you rebooted the printer?
[21:16] <someHuman> k1l: Yes.
[21:16] <k1l> does it say "no" twice?
[21:16] <someHuman> k1l: I mean no lol, just the Wireless LAN.
[21:16] <someHuman> Crap, GTG though! Thanks!
[21:16] <k1l> ok, so it does not even recognize it
[21:17] <k1l> …
[21:17] <linuxlite1969> Yes,   why would it work on some sites and not on others? Does it have to do with any recent updates for Linux, maybe with windows docs or set-ups?
[21:17] <holstein> linuxlite1969: the printer has an ip address, such as, 192.168.0.104 or whatever. you can visit its webgui by going to that IP from a web browser, and that tests connectivity
[21:17] <holstein> linuxlite1969: if the printer, is in itself not working. then, that doesnt have anything to do with any operating system on your network
[21:18] <linuxlite1969> umm I know it works on other websites.  ummm
[21:18] <holstein> linuxlite1969: i dont know what that means
[21:18] <holstein> linuxlite1969: can you connect to the printers webgui? thats all that is relevant
[21:19] <Pouet78> hello, I have a 12.04LTS installed and want to migrate to 14.04 LTS. When I try do-release-upgrade, it says ther is no new release !
[21:19] <linuxlite1969> Yes
[21:19] <holstein> Pouet78: that will be availalbe when 14.04.1 is available
[21:19] <Pouet78> Why?
[21:20] <k1l> Pouet78: the lts to lts upgrade will be opened on 24th july when 14.04 becomes 14.04.1
[21:20] <holstein> Pouet78: it was delayed til 14.04.1
[21:20] <Pouet78> oh ok
[21:20] <k1l> Pouet78: if you want lts you want a stable 14.04 that is why
[21:20] <k1l> holstein: that was the same on 12.04 release. lts to lts is always to the .1 release
[21:21] <Pouet78> should be detailed in releasenotes...
[21:21] <holstein> so, its not delayed. its just not well documented.. or easy to find
[21:21] <holstein> Pouet78: still, its coming
[21:21] <k1l> well yes.
[21:23] <Pouet78> understood, but should definitely be wrote somewhere where people will find this..
[21:23] <holstein> Pouet78: write it where you like. the wikis are editable
[21:24] <Pouet78> I think rel note is the right place
[21:25] <Eas> Hi! Is there anyone that could help me install 14.04? I'm totally new to ubuntu, but it seems to me like the usb live boot won't recognize my RAID.
[21:25] <linuxlite1969> Ok, so my printer is connected to the computer just fine. I have been printing from the internet just fine. Just today though, I went to a free printable page and it wouldn't print. So I thought it was the site and tried a different site, but when I got to the page that was the printable it did not print. Then I just went to a page on the internet that wasn't a printable page and it printed. I also downloaded pages to my folders and
[21:25] <linuxlite1969>  those also printed wirelessly.
[21:25] <reisio> Eas: what raid?
[21:25] <reisio> Eas: why do you want raid...
[21:26] <Eas> It's a laptop with two ssds in a raid 0 configuration
[21:26] <tneufeld> Hey guys.  A question.  I have just finished upgrading to 14.04.  Upgrade went well, but I noticed Synapse was removed.  All the research so far stats that it is not available for 14.04.  Is there anyway I can still install this?  Or is there something equivalent?
[21:26] <Eas> Both windows 8 and gparted (standalone live via usb) recognize my 5 partitions. The step-by-step installation is a bit off (see picture below) and when I start ubuntu without having it installed, gparted (in ubuntu) only finds two unallocated devices. Gparted (both as a standalone and in ubuntu) will also give me an error message saying "Libparted bug found! Invalid argument during seek for read on /dev/sda".
[21:27] <Eas> https://i.imgur.com/6BXXeRt.jpg
[21:27] <carmelo12341> i recommend you to use pinguy os
[21:28] <reisio> Eas: that's a good way to burn out your drives fast without actually keeping your data
[21:28] <Mrokii> tneufeld: Strange, I upgraded as well, and I still have Synapse.
[21:28] <reisio> Eas: turn that nonsense off
[21:28] <reisio> and remember, a single backup in the same location as the source is not a good backup :p
[21:28] <Eas> That's how it came from the factory. Perhaps a bit late to deactivate raid now?
[21:29] <reisio> Eas: nope
[21:29] <reisio> Eas: get into the BIOS config and turn it off
[21:29] <reisio> Eas: if you're going to replace the OS/data, at any rate
[21:30] <holstein> linuxlite1969: you said, printing from the internet was not "just fine", but actually, not working as before.. is that correct?
[21:30] <Jikan> Where should I ask why Pidgin-musictracker isn't in 14.04 repos?
[21:30] <reisio> Jikan: nowhere
[21:32] <Eas> reisio: doesn't sound like a neat solution if I have to reinstall win8. Isn't it possible to install 14.04 to a partition on my raid setup?
[21:32] <Jikan> reisio: thank you for your answer. It's sooo useful!
[21:33] <reisio> Eas: sure, but I promise you don't want that raid
[21:33] <reisio> Jikan: there's no build for 14.04
[21:33] <reisio> Jikan: so it can't be in the repos, 'cause it doesn't exist
[21:33] <Jordan_U> tneufeld: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=739131
[21:33] <linuxlite1969> No, I am printing from the internet and it is working. It is just when I want to print from a printable, that is doesn't want to work. For example, you know when you want to print a recipe and you click the print button and it gives you a printable, which is a new page. It doesn't work, and it was working for me just fine yesterday.
[21:33] <new0> holstein, hey.     i just finish to rename the   folders and       i did      not konw if to reboot. but didn't and wasn't able to login
[21:34] <Jikan> reisio: Yeah, OK. But I'd like to know why.
[21:34] <linuxlite1969> Just seems to not work when it is a printable page. I can print from the internet if it is not a printable page.
[21:35] <reisio> Jikan: 'cause nobody's... built it...
[21:35] <reisio> Jikan: uh, motivation, I guess?
[21:35] <reisio> lack of?
[21:35] <Jikan> Hm. OK. Thanks.
[21:35] <reisio> nothing stopping you from doing it :)
[21:35] <reisio> heck, an older version might even work on 14
[21:35] <OerHeks> Jikan, mail the maintainer ? http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/pidgin-musictracker
[21:36] <reisio> mail in an envelope!
[21:36] <new0> holstein, is there    any other  places?
[21:36] <Kalel> holstein: Well, didn't work.
[21:37] <dreamon> Is there someone out there who is running mate on 14.04? I cannot install a working version.
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> dreamon  mate is not in the repos, where did you get it
[21:37] <Kalel> I changed the 'pass' option to 'sw' and now the system even boot...
[21:37] <Jikan> reisio: I'll build it for myself but maintaining a package...
[21:38] <Jikan> OerHeks: yeah, I'm going to do that
[21:40] <dreamon> MonkeyDust, no it is.. sudo apt-get install mate-desktop
[21:40] <Eas> reisio: Any thoughts on how step 4 in the installation looks? https://i.imgur.com/6BXXeRt.jpg The three checkboxes where I should be choosing "something else" doesn't show up, and clicking either of + - change will result in a blank screen.
[21:41] <new0> holstein, ?
[21:41] <Eas> And I am unable to choose something in the drop list.
[21:41] <sym> hey
[21:42] <holstein> new0: no friend.. if you can login as another user, and everything is fine, and you user cant login, its stands to reason the issue is with your users config, and not the system
[21:42] <holstein> new0: why not try and create a new user in the terminal, and give it sudo permission.. then you can have a normal user account to at least use for the time being, and test
[21:43] <new0> holstein, ok. wow right. good idea. how? :)
[21:43] <Kalel> holstein: earlier I pasted my fstab output and went out to reboot my system. Can you see the link to show me?
[21:44] <lupetto> ciao
[21:44] <new0> holstein, how to create new user with sudo permission?
[21:45] <holstein> new0: sudo adduser .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto#Command-line
[21:45] <new0> holstein, tnx
[21:45] <holstein> Kalel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7375580/ ?
[21:46] <Kalel> holstein: Thank you. I'll reassign that line again.
[21:50] <macscam1> anyone know how to make a key +click assigned toright click?
[21:50] <new0> holstein, you are the best
[21:52] <linuxlite1969> hello, are you there?
[21:55] <new0> holstein, what is sudoers file?
[21:57] <sasha-> O hai. I have a bit of an issue with an account that was issued to me on a server. Basically, I didn't have a home folder, no terminal shortcuts worked, and some other things didn't go to well
[21:57] <sasha-> Any ideas on how to fix this? I have sudo access, and I've already created my own /home/sasha folder and copied stuff from /etc/skel/ into it
[21:57] <Term1nal> Question.. I've looked online about this issue but none of the proposed fixes did any good. On my ubuntu 12.04 server, mysql fails to start on boot. I attempted to reset the init scripts with update-rc.d, I tried removing/adding the bind address, setting the on-start to wait for eth0, but nothing is working. Any ideas?
[21:58] <Term1nal> Second issue, at random, I get this strange issue of ksoftirqdx eating 100% of all cores on the system despite low usage/load on any of the services on the machine.
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> Term1nal  there's alos #ubuntu-server
[21:58] <Term1nal> Again, a fruitless google search for a fix
[21:58] <Term1nal> MonkeyDust: is that so, thanks
[22:00] <sasha-> so uh yeah any ideas? I'm contemplating creating a new user instead
[22:15] <optimus_> hi all
[22:17] <Arduino> hello optimus_
[22:20] <spaceindaver> Hi all, I am trying to reinstall bluez but when I run "sudo apt-get purge bluez" it tries to remove ubuntu-desktop unity-control-center and a few more key packages
[22:20] <spaceindaver> Any idea why?
[22:27] <spaceindaver> even sudo apt-get remove bluez tries to remove those packages
[22:28] <dw1> Zipper2014: any luck?
[22:29] <coucouhibou> quit
[22:32] <antons> what would be best OS for DYI open source switch - needs to be L2/L3/802.1q etc
[22:33] <JonnyDamnnox> hey what was the name of the beginner friendly arch linux?
[22:36] <AR0W> looking for a tool that can do a full backup on the system, save it to ISO so can be installed with the same apps that it were before, any hints please ?
[22:38] <Jabo> AROW, Norton Ghost
[22:38] <OerHeks> !clone
[22:38] <OerHeks> !backup
[22:40] <shva> 19:38 <ubottu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can use the !software package "apt-clone" - See also !automate
[22:40] <xWolfz> Hey
[22:41] <xWolfz> I want to bridge my wifi connection from my laptop to my raspberry pi, how do I do so with Ubuntu 14.04
[22:41] <xWolfz> Raspberry pi doesn't need a crossover ethernet cable, because of how it's ethernet port is configured
[22:42] <AR0W> thanks for those tips
[22:44] <Jabo> Ghost will take a full backup of everything
[22:44] <AR0W> dd will do the trick
[22:44] <AR0W> will restore it after on live
[22:44] <AR0W> :)
[22:46] <skinux> How do we fix desktop background being black with no icons?
[22:48] <Jabo> what shell?
[22:48] <Jabo> I mean, gnome/unity/etc
[22:51] <skinux> All fixes online say to install ubuntu-desktop, but I already have that package installed.
[22:51] <Jabo> if you're in gnome-shell then that doesn't have a desktop with icons
[22:52] <Jabo> that is just like a window manager and a search function when you press the meta/windows key
[22:52] <skinux> I have Unity, top-panel, but desktop is black with no icons and right-click doesn't work.
[22:52] <kostkon> skinux, when did the problem start
[22:53] <skinux> After I upgraded to Trusty
[22:54] <kostkon> skinux, you could try resetting your unity/compiz http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[22:54] <Jhoc> Good day to all..
[22:54] <Kalel> how to make a file writable when loging in recovery mode?
[22:54] <skinux> I did that already
[22:54] <Jhoc> Hello kostkon ..
[22:54] <Kalel> ex: /etc/fstab
[22:54] <kostkon> Jhoc, hi :)
[22:56] <Jhoc> kostkon:  any suggestion for a new ubuntu 14.04 install? .. I mean, this is it? after install.. now what? lol ..
[22:56] <kostkon> Jhoc, hmm this for starters http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04
[22:56] <Jhoc> also, it keeps popping out ttf-mscorefonts-installer unable to load/download..
[22:57] <Jhoc> Thanks
[22:58] <JPS> Hi
[22:58] <quidnunc> Why doesn't my upstart service (docker) start on boot?
[22:59] <Kalel> holstein: http://askubuntu.com/questions/117950/how-do-i-change-file-system-in-recovery-mode-to-read-write-mode
[23:00] <Kalel> holstein: Do you think that it looks like my problem?
[23:01] <Guest47028> HI
[23:05] <holstein> Kalel: not from what i read
[23:05] <sudormrf> hey guys!  simple question.  suppose I setup owncloud, but I want to use a non-standard port.  say something like 7890.  If I set it up in the router correctly people should be able to browse to the page just fine by using my.ddnsaddress.com:7890/owncloud.  But suppose I just want to supply them with an address without the 7890, how can I accomplish this?
[23:07] <holstein> sudormrf: you might try a general networking channel, but you can try forwarding to the entire thing.. mydomain.at.whatever forwards to my.ip:7890/whatever
[23:07] <holstein> sudormrf: i have been able to forward that before, and other times, not
[23:07] <sudormrf> holstein, you mean in the routeR?
[23:08] <Kalel> holstein: I saw my mistake now. I couldn't change that line.. You told me something about the filesystem format. Isn't ext2 the correct / default?
[23:08] <holstein> sudormrf: i mean, in whatever tool the ddns requires you use
[23:08] <holstein> Kalel: its not what the installer does.. you get ext4 and swap.. not sure why you dont have that
[23:08] <skinux> Hmm...If Unity Tweak Tool shows two CPUs, is that an indication of dual-core machine?
[23:08] <holstein> skinux: maybe hypter threading
[23:09] <sudormrf> holstein, aaahh.  gotcha
[23:09] <skinux> I'm not sure what that is.
[23:09] <sudormrf> holstein, something like ddclient?
[23:10] <holstein> sudormrf: depends on how it works.. i have used a pay for domain, and dyndns
[23:10] <Kalel> holstein: Neither do I. I didn't choose that. Can I change that now?
[23:11] <holstein> Kalel: you can do what you like, but, if you dont have a default experience, and you say you did the default thing, what is going on there?
[23:11] <sudormrf> holstein, gotcha.  I think that was the piece of info I was looking for.  wasn't sure which end this was going to have to happen on.
[23:11] <holstein> Kalel: do you have failing hardware? do you have a bad iso?
[23:12] <skinux> What is Window Spread?
[23:13] <Kalel> holstein: Actually, I installed Kubuntu 14.04.. and now I realize that I already had a ext2 partition and selected to install. I will reinstall in a ext4 partition so..
[23:14] <holstein> Kalel: just follow the defaults.. try and do the "delete everything" option...
[23:15] <does> Can Someone help me with this issue? http://postimg.org/image/t13fis8dl/
[23:16] <Kalel> holstein: I have 4 systems installed. arch (hard as slack to install...), Debian and Kali... If I delete everything is gone... I'll pay attention now.
[23:17] <Kalel> holstein: Thanks for the help.
[23:17] <holstein> Kalel: ok.. when i asked earlier, you were not dual booting
[23:18] <holstein> Kalel: then, i would clear out free space, and see if the installer wants to use it.. offers to use it.. if not, i would manually partition using "something else" option.. and make my own swap and ext4 partition
[23:18] <does> I am trying to generate my Open PGP key.
[23:18] <holstein> does: the server could be down
[23:19] <Kalel> holstein: heh.. Ok.
[23:19] <does> holstein: Both of their servers at the same time?
[23:20] <veryhappy> hey guys, i'm chatting now a little bit old-fashioned with irssi right now because i'm just on the text level. i don't know can i get my ubuntu installation to NOT use GPT? because my netbook tries to use efiboot and all this stuff together with gpt, but indeed it worked once before on ubuntu 12.04 amd64 with only MBR and NO GPT. Please help.
[23:20] <skinux> How would disabling screen lock be more secure than having it enabled?
[23:20] <holstein> does: internal server error doesnt seem like its on your end, correct?
[23:21] <does> holstein: I am not sure... :-(
[23:21] <holstein> does: thats what i read.. server side internal error.. but if thats not the case, it could be soemthing you are doing
[23:21] <holstein> !uefi | veryhappy
[23:22] <veryhappy> holstein: it DOES NOT work with efi
[23:23] <Jpmh> have a friend with a new-ish Dell Inspiron - he is loosing confidence in Windoze - so I wanted to ste him up dual boot. How do I do that given that Windoze 8.1 is there and boots using secure mode and UEFI?
[23:23] <holstein> veryhappy: i was just offering that as reference.. not saying it does, did, or should
[23:23] <holstein> Jpmh: you can use that uefi information i linked as well
[23:23] <holstein> !uefi | Jpmh
[23:24] <Jpmh> holstein: ty - going to look at that page now
[23:25] <arturoDOMI> HI
[23:25] <arturoDOMI> hello
[23:25] <veryhappy> holstein: ok thank you, didn't mean to be rude, i just tell every person and friend of mine who is trying to help me that it's not using efi because otherwise a proper set up ubuntu installation with efiboot and gpt should make it book, right? it didn't even then.
[23:25] <arturoDOMI> anybody on ubuntu 14 here????
[23:26] <HM06> I'm having a 14.04 installation issue. hangs eternally at "getting timr from network server"
[23:26] <veryhappy> HM06: perhaps pressing ESC at the right time before should make the installation stop on there and give you a menu what to do next, try to skip the step.
[23:27] <skinux> I reset Unity again and now desktop background is a mix of a few program windows.
[23:28] <Jpmh> holstein: I read the page on UEFI - what I still do not understand is: Windoze and the setup are using secure mode.  Unless I turn that off I do not even seem to be able to boot of the memory stick with 14.4 on it.  What am I missing here
[23:28] <skinux> I think I'll logout and login again, see if that helps.
[23:28] <Jhoc> anyone can point me to a good 3d game I can download?
[23:29] <veryhappy> Jhoc: how about "steam is porting its game portal to linux as well."?
[23:29] <Jhoc> thanks dude..
[23:29] <veryhappy> Jhoc: no problem
[23:31] <IdleOne> phunyguy: We are LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!
[23:31] <IdleOne> Let the games begin
[23:31] <kostkon> ??!!
[23:31] <IdleOne> oops wrong channel
[23:31] <veryhappy> holstein: can't i disable on boot the use of gpt? the problem is actually that it creates a gpt partition table while installation and i want a normal mbr...
[23:34] <rocky> ok, slightly noob question... i have a NetGear ReadyNAS 102 device on my network that has a bunch of shares exported via nfs... i need to connect my ubuntu desktop but the UID's are messed up... can i somehow map the UID's that are exported via nfs to something sensible on my local ubuntu desktop?
[23:37] <codingman> what is this channel's problem?
[23:38] <xorrbit> I chose to "Encrypt the new Ubuntu installation for security" when doing HD stuff in the installer. Does this include my home folder or should I encrypt my home folder as well?
[23:39] <gueriLLaPunK> im trying to mount an iso
[23:39] <gueriLLaPunK> mount: warning: /mnt/iso seems to be mounted read-only.
[23:40] <gueriLLaPunK> i did sudo -o loop <path to iso> etc etc
[23:40] <HM06> My lts install hands eternally on "getting the time from a network time server". Any ideas?
[23:40] <gueriLLaPunK> sudo mount*
[23:40] <Tiensbakung> xorrbit: depends how you set up your partitions, do you have a separate partition for home?
[23:40] <HM06> hangs*
[23:40] <Beldar> gueriLLaPunK, what is the end goal?
[23:40] <veryhappy> xorrbit: you're encrypting your own folder like that, but if you mess something up you can't open your files anymore, good about encryption, huh? maybe you wanna change that again?
[23:40] <gueriLLaPunK> mount the iso, its a bluray, so i can get some screenshots from one of the streams.
[23:40] <Tiensbakung> gueriLLaPunk: that makes sense, because ISO are cd format, it's *read only*
[23:41] <gueriLLaPunK> ohhhh
[23:41] <xorrbit> I did not customize my partitions, just clicked the check box in the installer. How can I check which partitions are encrypted?
[23:41] <gueriLLaPunK> how would i extract the information from the iso then?
[23:42] <kostkon> gueriLLaPunK, mount it or open it with the archive manager
[23:42] <pacebl> xorrbit: I'm a bit fuzzy on which mode of encryption it's using, but if it's ecryptfs you should be able to type "mount" and see which folders are mounted "type ecryptfs"
[23:42] <veryhappy> gueriLLaPunK: should be like on any iso: mount -o loop /path-to-iso /path-where-to-bind-it
[23:42] <gueriLLaPunK> so i cant bind it to mnt/iso?
[23:42] <veryhappy> gueriLLaPunK: of course you can
[23:43] <gueriLLaPunK> when i tried to, i get read only error
[23:43] <pacebl> veryhappy: That's what backups are for :) encryption can be essential
[23:43] <xorrbit> pacebl: okay I will try and see if I can figure that out
[23:43] <veryhappy> pacebl: well yea.
[23:43] <HM06> What's the general course of action to take when the installation hangs forever?
[23:44] <veryhappy> try to kill the parts necessary with ps -ax and kill -9 pid number
[23:44] <Tiensbakung> gueriLLaPunk: it's a warning, not an error, they are different. But i agree, this one is confusing
[23:44] <gueriLLaPunK> hoiw do i change the permissions of the /mnt/iso folder? i think its only on read only
[23:44] <HM06> Is this not the right place to ask for support?
[23:44] <xorrbit> I check this box: http://cdn2.computersnyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Screen-Shot-2014-04-18-at-11.04.19-pm.png and now am at this screen and wondering if I need to check that 'encrypt my home folder' box or if the previous one takes care of it
[23:45] <veryhappy> HM06: why not?
[23:45] <xorrbit> http://cdn2.computersnyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Screen-Shot-2014-04-18-at-11.06.27-pm-2-e1397847694424.png
[23:45] <veryhappy> HM06: i gave you a hint
[23:45] <HM06> veryhappy: wasn't working. the skip box is grayed out and pressing esc doesnt seem to do anything
[23:46] <gueriLLaPunK> nevermind, its mounted
[23:47] <veryhappy> HM06: strange i knew that from other installations, well i meant to use ps -ax probably on busybox just ps to find out which pid to kill and then you can lose hanging parts
[23:47] <gueriLLaPunK> quick question... the ~ means home/user, right?
[23:47] <bukitmahkota> correct gueriLLaPunK
[23:47] <gueriLLaPunK> whats the shortcut for the root dir? like to point to /mnt/iso/blah blah
[23:48] <Beldar> HM06, What release and did you tick the update on install?
[23:48] <veryhappy> "/root" ?
[23:48] <Tiensbakung> gueriLLaPunK:  you can't access root folder, it's /root
[23:48] <gueriLLaPunK> my bad, i meant /mnt/iso
[23:48] <gueriLLaPunK> when im not in that folder
[23:48] <gueriLLaPunK> just type it like that?
[23:48] <HM06> Beldar: 14.04, and I ticked the update on install the first time, but had the same issue after not ticking if on my second and third tries
[23:49] <veryhappy> you have to be root (the administrator on your system)
[23:49] <funnieguy> sudo
[23:50] <pacebl> xorrbit: They'll both protect your files. If you encrypt your disk, the system won't boot without your password I believe
[23:50] <gueriLLaPunK> got it. so if i want to address /mnt/iso, i just tye it like that. i dont need the ~, since that points to home/user
[23:50] <pacebl> xorrbit: There's no real reason to use both, unless you want to sync your encrypted files to an external place
[23:51] <pacebl> xorrbit: ^ sync them while they stay encrypted I mean
[23:52] <Beldar> HM06, The install attempts all with the same cd/usb? Have you done a sum check?
[23:52] <rafaelpt> Hi
[23:53] <rafaelpt> Any news about radeon uvd problems with new kernel?
[23:53] <HM06> Beldar: I've been using the same usb stick each time, yes
[23:54] <Beldar> HM06, Same usb load, do you see what I mean? Have you checked the sum on the download?
[23:54] <Beldar> HM06, In other words more real details.
[23:56] <HM06> Beldar: the sum matches, i can try a different stick, i guess
[23:56] <rafaelpt> anyone here  that could help me?
[23:56] <Beldar> HM06, May not be the stick but the loading of it, I would try a mini net install.
[23:58] <Festour> Hi! Anyone can give me good tutorial for installing frimware for network card, in offline?
[23:59] <Tiensbakung> Festour: why you wanna do that?