[00:34] <share> Continue button is greyed out
[00:36] <james0r> coincidence that firefox 29 is 29mb?
[00:41] <share> james0r: #firefox
[00:41] <share> james0r: the installation file?
[00:42] <james0r> well i meant specifically the ubuntu package but i'll concede
[00:45] <xangua> Hi, I have a problem with parole, I can't play a DVD with it (libdvcss2 installed) It shows an error in gstreamer: Could not read from resource. http://i.imgur.com/cMzqCyS.png Is this a know issue? How can I solve this? Thanks
[00:47] <Unit193> bluesabre: There?
[00:54] <share> got it working!
[01:06] <xangua> Hi according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parole/+bug/1098323 this should have been fixed on  parole - 0.6.1-0ubuntu1 (0.6.1-0ubuntu3 installed in trusty) but everytime I put a DVD and select parole to play it gstreamer says:  Could not read from resource http://i.imgur.com/cMzqCyS.png I have gstreamer-plugin-ugly and libdvdcss2 installed
[01:12] <share> how does xubuntu set up a guest session
[01:12] <share> and why is lightdm showing xfce session AND xubuntu session
[01:13] <Caduceus> hey
[01:13] <share> hey
[01:14] <Caduceus> i have a quick simple questionn
[01:14] <Caduceus> is it my computer, or does the shutdown menu take forever to popup :/
[01:14] <Caduceus> well over a minute
[01:31] <starrats> must be your computer mine is almost instant
[01:40] <share> Xubuntu is looking good
[01:49] <xangua> can you play dvd's in parole¿
[01:50] <cyborgcygnus> xangua, Probably if you have the xubuntu-restricted-extras installed
[01:50] <xangua> cyborgcygnus: can you¿
[01:51] <cyborgcygnus> xangua, Hang on I'll give it a go
[01:52] <xangua> everytime I insert a DVD gstreamer says it can't read the resource, I can manualy open dvd:///dev/sr0 in parole and plays but I wish it could just play when I insert a DVD
[01:53] <share> why should people use parole instead of vlc
[01:53] <cyborgcygnus> xangua, Nup I'm getting your message in VLC & Parole, in the restricted extras it mentions some dvdread thing you need to install, I'll try now
[01:57] <xangua> cyborgcygnus: I have libdvdcc2 installed, share well it's the default player and uses low resources, I wish to give someone a machine with xubuntu
[01:59] <cyborgcygnus> xangua, so you got it going?
[02:00] <cyborgcygnus> brb
[02:06] <xangua> cyborgcygnus: did it work for you? no, everytime I insert a DVD and select parole to open it it says gstreamer couldn't read the resource
[02:08] <cyborgcygnus> xangua, Did you restart after installation?
[02:09] <xangua> cyborgcygnus: I already had libdvdcss2 installed since day1
[02:13] <cyborgcygnus> I installed the restricted extras & it didn't install itself. Had to run this in a terminal just before "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh"
[02:13] <cyborgcygnus> THe dvd works in parole now, not in vlc yet
[02:17] <xangua> cyborgcygnus: when you insert a DVD and select parole to play it, does it play?
[02:18] <xangua> I have to manualy open dvd:///dev/sr0 maybe is because I am using Ubuntu/Unity? haven't tested on xfce desktop
[02:25] <aussiedownunder> xangua, Just tried to play the dvd in xbmc & it got stuck reading the dvd, had to force restart my pc
[02:26] <xangua> gonna try in a xubuntu session
[02:27] <aussiedownunder> Anybody else get weird noises coming from skype sometimes? I sent a message to someone & I got an annoying buzz sound which I had to quit skype to kill
[02:34] <bo_> aussiedownunder : NSA definatly !!!
[02:35] <Caduceus> hm, i tried running xubuntu on my cgaming rig and same issue.  shutdown menu takes a while to load :/
[02:46] <aussiedownunder> bo_, lol
[02:53] <aussiedownunder> xangua, Well that would be the problem, the default setting for opening a dvd wasn't opening the actual dvd
[02:53] <aussiedownunder> In other words it does work
[03:09] <share> hi
[03:10] <xangua> when I insert the dvd it mounts and automatically opens parole
[03:11] <xangua> it plays fine in xubuntu, no idea why it doesn't play automatically in ubuntu
[03:15] <holstein> xangua: xubuntu is ubuntu.. whats the issue? something autoplays in xubuntu? but not main ubuntu?
[03:16] <xangua> holstein: yes, DVD in parole
[03:16] <holstein> is this just something you need to get to the bottom of? or you want to auto play? or not?
[03:16] <xangua> I am currently on a live session of xubuntu and it worked fine, in my ubuntu install parole shows a gstreamer error; could not read from resource
[03:17] <holstein> could be different versions..
[03:18] <xangua> bot are 14.04 holstein ,I just wanted to make sure it works in xubuntu and it does (only tried a few, the menus didn't show up fine in The prince of Eggypt
[03:19] <holstein> xangua: different versions of the software
[03:19] <holstein> xangua: the live version can, and likely does have an older version
[03:20] <xangua> holstein: both in live cd and current install are the exactly same version 0.6 revision 3
[03:20] <xangua> parole 0.6.1-0ubuntu3
[03:22] <xangua> I also notice in xubuntu it mounts the dvd and the 'Play disc' entry  in Parole player is enabled, while in ubuntu when it mounts it the menu is greyed out
[03:22] <holstein> xangua: sure, but we can "notice" a bunch of things. whats the goal here?
[03:23] <xangua> I wanna know if there is a diference between how xfce and unity mount devices?
[03:23] <holstein> xangua: i think you are describing a difference in configuration for autoplay..
[03:24] <holstein> could be as simple as being configured to auto mount
[03:24] <holstein> should be able to go in and change that...
[03:26] <holstein> they use different filemanagers, and lots of other packages are different
[03:27] <ball> What on Earth happened to the menu?!
[03:27] <holstein> ball: you'll have to let us know what is happening with your menu
[03:28] <ball> holstein: I've just installed 14.04 and I dislike the changes to the menu. Are those Xubuntu-specific or are they from Xfce?
[03:28] <ball> (I'm wondering whether to find another distro)
[03:29] <holstein> ball: is the question "how to i change the current default xubuntu menu back to what it used to be?" ?
[03:29] <Kekai> ubuntu 14.10 is called Utopic Unicorn?
[03:30] <holstein> !ubuntu+1
[03:30] <Kekai> !ubuntu+2
[03:31] <Kekai> ahh
[03:31] <Kekai> ubuntu 15.04
[03:31] <Kekai> cant believe we are almost there
[03:31] <Kekai> 16.04 LTS
[03:31] <ball> holstein: Well, I suppose that's one approach.
[03:31] <holstein> Kekai: please use the #ubuntu+1 channel for 14.10 support/discussion, and the #xubuntu-offtopic channel for chat thanks
[03:32] <holstein> ball: is that the question?
[03:32] <ball> I've just done a fresh install though so if there's something better out there...
[03:32] <ball> ...now might be the time.
[03:32] <holstein> ball: "better" is a matter of opinion
[03:32] <ball> Yes, that's fair.
[03:33] <ball> I'm just used to thinking of Xubuntu as my favourite Linux.
[03:34] <holstein> ball: that is also a matter of opinion.. and use case
[03:34] <holstein> ball: if you want another menu, you are free to explore options
[03:34] <holstein> ball: if you want another distro, you are also free to explore options
[03:35] <holstein> ball: its *quite* easy to change from the new wisker menu to the old style http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2208380
[03:36] <holstein> from #2 "Right click on panel. Choose Panel > Panel Preferences > Items
[03:36] <holstein> Select Whisker Menu and press the red X on the right (remove)
[03:36] <holstein> Then press + on the right for new item, select 'Applications Menu' and finally press 'Add'
[03:36] <holstein> Use the up and down arrows to position it where you want."
[03:37] <ball> Is "Whisker" a Xubuntu thing or an Xfce thing though?
[03:37] <holstein> ball: http://gottcode.org/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/
[03:38] <holstein> ball: i get that you dont like it.. change it if you dont want it.. feel free
[03:38] <xangua> I like it
[03:38] <xangua> you can even give it a shorcut
[03:39] <holstein> sure.. but, "like" doesnt really matter.. its editable..
[03:39] <ball> Well that's something, anyway.
[03:39] <holstein> ball: what is "something"?
[03:40] <holstein> that you can change it back to the one you stated you preffered?
[03:40]  * ball nods
[03:40] <ball> That's some consolation.
[03:40] <holstein> ball: you can change it all to anything you like.. its all open
[03:47] <xangua> Also this is what parole shows when trying to play a DVD in ubuntu: (parole:4848): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 351 was not found when attempting to remove it
[03:48] <holstein> xangua: to remove what?
[03:48] <xangua> holstein: that is the whole mesage, a single line
[03:49] <holstein> xangua: sure.. when?
[03:50] <james0r> how does someone not like whisker
[03:50] <xangua> holstein: just right now I went back to ubuntu and select parole to play automaticaly when inserting a dvd
[03:50] <james0r> blows my mind.
[03:53] <ball> james0r: I prefered the old one and was hoping that was just part of Ubuntu's downward slide.  Sadly it's an Xfce thing so other distros may have it too.
[03:53] <holstein> ball: ?
[03:53] <holstein> ball: please just change it if you dont like it
[03:53] <james0r> ball, fair enough. takes about 30 seconds to replace it with the old one right?
[03:54] <holstein> ball: some really prefer the, what is arguably, momentum in development
[03:54] <ball> james0r: I'll have to figure out how.
[03:54] <holstein> ball: i have you a link, and text specifiying exactly how
[03:54] <james0r> i came from Linux Mint Xfce so whisker was standard. i need the search field. must have for me
[03:54] <ball> thanks holstein
[03:54] <Unit193> ball: Right click, remove, right click, add applicationsmenu.
[03:55] <xangua> why 14.04 doesn't ships with Synapse?
[03:55] <xangua> in the repositories*
[03:55] <holstein> xangua: i would check upstream with debian
[03:56] <holstein> xangua: https://launchpad.net/~synapse-core/+archive/ppa
[03:57] <xangua> holstein: I installed the precise package with no issues
[03:58] <ball> Unit193: Thanks, that's a ton better.
[03:58] <holstein> xangua: sure.. its not in the repos anymore.. there is a PPA that i linked. otherwise, its easiest upstream to get packages in. could be the synapse team is too small to maintain the package.. could be anything
[03:59] <xangua>  0.2.10-2
[03:59] <xangua> Deleted in jessie-release (Reason: None provided.)  :(
[04:00] <xangua> also deleted in sid
[04:00] <holstein> xangua: there is no doubt is is gone
[04:04] <xangua> why would they remove it, it's awesome}
[04:05] <holstein> xangua: as i said, could be the team doesnt provide support, or is small, or just doesnt exist. could have been one maintainer that is not maintaining
[04:05] <holstein> xangua: you can always go upstream and offer to maintain, or help maintain.. or fork..
[04:06] <holstein> xangua: or, just add the ppa...
[04:07] <xangua> no PPA for trusty but the precise package works fine
[04:09] <holstein> xangua: pretty sure there was one ofr 14.04
[04:09] <holstein> for*
[04:09] <holstein> xangua: you may prefer that to focing the wrong one.. or, just use something else.. kupfer
[04:10] <xangua> holstein: there is the unstable synapse package ppa witch crashes :P
[04:10] <holstein> xangua: let them know..
[04:11] <xangua> I like synapse better, it uses zeitgest
[04:11] <holstein> if its unsupported, offer to support, or let it go..
[04:19] <Unit193> It's "dead" upstream.  Dead in the sense it still gets commits, but no releases.
[04:42] <Archimedes00> Have you guys gotten any bug reports regarding network manager? Everything was fine but now my connection gets dropped several times an hour despite having a strong signal
[04:42] <Archimedes00> not sure if its related to xubuntu or not
[04:58] <xubuntu430> hello everyone!
[04:58] <xubuntu430> first time here
[04:58] <xubuntu430> am new user of xubuntu
[04:58] <xubuntu430> got a question:
[04:59] <xubuntu430> how to avoid turning on the wifi atstart up?
[06:10] <akis> hi all. 14.04 already released. do you know when it will be available for automatic upgrade on 12.04 systems?
[06:12] <elfy> with the release of 14.04.1 on 24th July
[06:13] <share> is there a way to change onboard layout
[06:14] <akis> elfy: why?
[06:15] <elfy> akis: why what? you asked when and I told you
[06:16] <akis> elfy: you have right! https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/ubuntu-12-04-to-14-04-upgrade. i am just wondering!
[06:16] <elfy> I don't know the exact reasons I'm afraid
[06:17] <akis> elfy: its ok. another question. i have only 4 gb free on my hd. will this upgrade exceed my hd and it will be on the side on the existing 12.04 or it will be on existing 12.04?
[06:20] <elfy> akis I can't answer that - you might have 4Gb free - but you might have 30Gb of packages all needing an upgrade. I'd certainly make sure to clear the existing apt cache prior to upgrading apt-get clean
[06:20] <elfy> and it will upgrade the existing 12.04, it won't install it seperately
[06:25] <akis> elfy: thank you for advises. i am glad i see that it will upgrade the existing 12.04 and that it won't install it seperately. 30 gb is to big for me because the entire hd is only 35!!! (i am running 12.04 successfully and very smoothly  on an old laptop with 1,5 ghz celron and 1,5 gb ram but with only a 35 gb hd). can i run apt-get clean now to see how hd space will be available?
[06:26] <elfy> you can run apt-get clean anytime you want :)
[06:32] <akis> elfy: i run it and more 0,5 gb is now available but i have still only 4,21 gb available.
[06:36] <akis> elfy:thank yu anyway for your advises.
[06:38] <elfy> sayiing you have ~4Gb really is meaningless unless we know how big / is and how big /home/user is
[06:38] <baizon> akis: i recommend https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/bleachbit/
[06:38] <baizon> for cleaning
[06:41] <akis> i can get some more space deleting my pictures but i relly dont want that.
[06:41] <elfy> akis: run this in a terminal and give us the url    df -h | pastebinit
[06:43] <akis> paste
[06:44] <akis> give me paste link please
[06:44] <akis> paste!
[06:44] <elfy> run that and it will give you a url
[06:48] <akis> ok. i saw the link. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7371145/
[11:26] <bjorn_> hi. someone runs xubuntu  on a acer netbook? I consider to switch from lubuntu due to lots of annoying bugs and wants to know if it works better with xubuntu or same same
[11:28] <Wizard> bjorn_: xfce is far more stable than lxde which is a chinese crap :<
[11:29] <bjorn_> will it be ok with just 1 gb ram?
[11:30] <Wizard> Hmm.. for xubuntu alone it will be fine, but you'll probably run into troubles with modern browsers :|
[11:31] <bjorn_> i run chrome on lubuntu and its ok. youtube is not very good
[11:32] <bjorn_> well i might as well try. its bad weather anyway :)
[11:32] <Wizard> Will look simmilar.
[11:32] <Wizard> Well..
[11:32] <Wizard> Just install xubuntu-desktop
[11:33] <Wizard> I mean just install xubuntu-desktop metapackage ;)
[11:33] <Wizard> No need to reinstall whole thing just to test.
[11:33] <bjorn_> oh. explain further. does this mean that I can choose what distro to start up?
[11:34] <magi> how to rest notications to default standard in xubuntu. After clicking do not show, it never shows notifications
[11:34] <flux242> Hi, I power manager doesn't seems to work with the 14.04. /etc/pm/ scripts aren't executed. Computer doesn't react on the power manager settings like decrease screen brightness after inactivity and so on. How can I debug it?
[11:36] <brainwash> flux242: scripts in /etc/pm are executed by pm-utils
[11:36] <flux242> yes, I know
[11:36] <bjorn_> Wizard, is it like "sudo apt-get install Xubuntu-desktop"and it will run?
[11:37] <flux242> the /usr/lib/upower and xfce4-power-manager-settings are running
[11:37] <Wizard> No, with lowercase x, and you will have to log out, choose xubuntu from sessions menu on login screen.
[11:37] <brainwash> flux242: can launch the power manager in debug mode with "xfce4-power-manager --debug"
[11:38] <brainwash> flux242: just kill the currently running instance with "killall xfce4-power-manager" first
[11:38] <Wizard> bjorn_: Didn't you know that all *buntu is basically same system using same software repos?
[11:39] <Wizard> Brb, shower.
[11:39] <magi> how to *reset notications to default in xubuntu. After clicking do not show, it never shows notifications
[11:39] <bjorn_> Wizard, ok. I tried this in many years ago on a ubuntu -->kubuntu test i ended up with a totally bloated system, but xubuntu is probably easier on the system.
[11:39] <brainwash> magi: you mean notification bubbles?
[11:40] <magi> yes
[11:40] <brainwash> magi: and what are you trying to click?
[11:40] <bjorn_> Wizard, yes I know in some way.
[11:41] <matariles> Hello, how can I know if the wireless card is broken? It is not recognized even in a usb boot... but it was working until yesterday, suddenly after a update and reboot recognized but non working, and after another reboot not present. Thanks in advance!! Wireless info: http://pastebin.com/WMRZRiQ2
[11:42] <magi> see i have clicked do not show this when notification appeared. So it isn't showing notification  for that particular act.(ex. network connection, bluetooth file transfer)
[11:42] <flux242> hm, xfpm restarted and it starts working
[11:42] <brainwash> flux242: that's magic :)
[11:43] <flux242> yeah, but it doesn't work after clean boot..
[11:43] <brainwash> magi: ah, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/67500/how-to-disable-notification-from-network-manager
[11:45] <brainwash> flux242: you could file a bug report, simply run "ubuntu-bug xfce4-power-manager"
[11:46] <flux242> I do not have this executable
[11:47] <magi> thanks brainwash . It helped! :-)
[11:47] <brainwash> flux242: looks like you've removed "apport"
[11:47] <brainwash> magi: great :)
[11:47] <flux242> brainwash: no, I never installed it
[11:49] <brainwash> or file it manually on https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[11:49] <flux242> btw Do I need any of acpi* packages installed?
[11:50] <brainwash> do you?
[11:50] <flux242> I tried to install acpi package. That didn't help. Then I installed acpid and acpi-support. That didn't help either
[11:50] <brainwash> I mean is something not working right now?
[11:51] <flux242> power management and pm-utils aren't working
[11:51] <brainwash> right
[11:52] <brainwash> pm-utils usually creates log files in /var/log
[11:52] <brainwash> like pm-suspend.log
[11:53]  * Wizard is back
[11:53] <Wizard> bjorn_: Still here?
[11:53] <bjorn_> Wizard, yes
[11:54] <Wizard> And how's xubuntu working for you?
[11:54] <bjorn_> Wizard, not done yet
[11:54] <flux242> brainwash: thanks, I see in the log that my script aren't executable. It wasn't needed previously though
[11:55] <brainwash> it wasn't?!
[11:55] <brainwash> I'm pretty sure that they have to be marked as executable
[11:56] <flux242> hm, I've copied them from my previous installation. Maybe the flags got lost in the transition
[11:57] <brainwash> and regarding the power manager problem, restarting it seems to be at least an easy workaround
[11:57] <brainwash> so you could automate it via an autostart script or something like that
[11:58] <bjorn_> Wizard, i get this "bloat" feeling again when I open my lubuntu start menu ;)
[11:58] <Wizard> Why?
[11:58] <bjorn_> Wizard, just so many programs I will never use
[11:58] <flux242> ok, scripts are working now.
[11:58] <Wizard> Xubuntu 14.04 uses this fantastic whiskers menu.
[11:58] <flux242> brainwash: yeah, I already have some xrandr add mode script in the autostart
[11:59] <flux242> Wizard: I don't like it. I'm using older application menu
[12:00] <flux242> Wizard: I simply cannot find anything in the whiskers menu he
[12:00] <Wizard> Well, at least you have a choice, flux242 ;)
[12:00] <flux242> yep
[12:04] <bjorn_> Wizard, now done. brb
[12:08] <flux242> btw, can I style the login screen somehow. Because the default login screen looks lame
[12:08] <Wizard> :D
[12:08] <flux242> It was better previously
[12:08] <bjorn_> Wizard, now its up and running.
[12:08] <Wizard> flux242: It is lightdm, so the answer is yes, you can.
[12:09] <brainwash> flux242: you can select a different theme, see /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
[12:10] <brainwash> try "Numix" instead of "Greybird"
[12:10] <flux242> ok, I'll take a look
[12:10] <Wizard> bjorn_: And how's the taste?
[12:11] <bjorn_> Wizard, It feels better for sure.  like ubuntu 7-8 years ago but better :) and lubuntu is what xubuntu was back then
[12:11] <Wizard> LOL
[12:12] <flux242> brainwash: is it the same setting I can select in the appearence dialog?
[12:12] <Wizard> flux242: Nope.
[12:12] <brainwash> flux242: no, this config file only changes the appearance of the greeter screen
[12:13] <flux242> ok
[12:13] <Wizard> bjorn_: And what about memory usage?
[12:14] <bjorn_> Wizard, Can I have a "online" applet in the dock to show ram and processor?
[12:14] <iimki> is this the right place to get help for xubuntu? newbeeeee
[12:14] <Wizard> bjorn_: Sure.
[12:14] <brainwash> iimki: yes, this it the right place
[12:14] <brainwash> is
[12:14] <iimki> new to linux coming in from windows
[12:15] <Wizard> bjorn_: I use "system monitor", it is installed by default.
[12:15] <Wizard> iimki: Just ask questions.
[12:15] <iimki> dumping windows and trying to go linux cold turkey
[12:15] <Wizard> cold greece ;)
[12:16] <Wizard> iimki: Just forget everything you know about software and you'll be fine.
[12:16] <Aritheanie> iimki: I'm trying Xubuntu again for the first time since 12.04... dual boot on the netbook
[12:16] <iimki> will keep this site open and look around a bit when I need help will ask thanks
[12:17] <iimki> running on a shuttle
[12:18] <iimki> went through about 20 distro's decided xubuntu most usable for me
[12:18] <bjorn_> its ok, but I like the one I used in lubuntu better, it showed how parameters changed with time.
[12:20] <bjorn_> now with dropbox, chrome xchat and thunderbird I use about 500 mb of my ram
[12:20] <iimki> after trying other distro's and not getting anywhere this is first one I was able to some what use
[12:20] <bjorn_> Wizard, but
[12:21] <bjorn_> Wizard, but I know chrome is heavy if many tabs are open
[12:21] <Wizard> iimki: Matter of taste.
[12:21] <Wizard> bjorn_: Depends on amount of flash/javascript ;D
[12:22] <bjorn_> :)
[12:22] <iimki> agree but as a total newbee I don't have any taste
[12:23] <Poisoned_Dragon> honesty at it's finest
[12:24] <iimki> how do you save the settings on this (xchat) so you can find your way back??
[12:25] <Wizard> iimki: I've edited freenode on server list, put proper nicks and so.
[12:27] <iimki> duuu found the help button ..will read
[12:29] <bjorn_> how can I move the panel down to the bottom of the screen?
[12:29] <Wizard> bjorn_: Sure.
[12:29] <Wizard> Go to panel settings, deselect "Locked" checkbox. Two handles will appear on each side, drag the panel with the handles.
[12:30] <Wizard> Than you can lock it again.
[12:30] <Wizard> I know this is weird :D
[12:31] <bjorn_> great thanks
[12:31] <iimki> well I think I have figured it out thanks will sign off and try to reconnect
[12:39] <bjorn_> I know its nerdy but how can I change the "lubuntu" login and shout down screen to xbuntu?
[12:41] <Wizard> bjorn_: Hmm, there are packages like lubuntu-something-theme, I don't remember exact name.
[12:41] <Wizard> You can safely remove them.
[12:41] <recon_lap> hi, want to copy all the contacts off and old iPhone 3gs over a USB cable, anyone know an easy way to do this?
[12:42] <cfhowlett> bjorn_ I believe it "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop to install all the default packages - including login.
[12:42] <Wizard> cfhowlett: Themes aren't changed.
[12:42] <bjorn_> cfhowlett, I have done that
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !purexubuntu
[12:42] <Wizard> Oh.
[12:42] <Wizard> How nice :)
[12:43] <cfhowlett> !purexfce
[12:43] <cfhowlett> Wizard just took a minuthttp://rosegardenmusic.com/resources/e for the brain cells to catch up
[12:43] <knome> cfhowlett, they didn't ask to remove lubuntu.
[12:43] <cfhowlett> knome ah, that's different then.
[12:44] <Wizard> bjorn_: apt-cache search lubuntu | grep theme
[12:45] <Wizard> Also lubuntu-default-settings.
[12:45] <bjorn_> Wizard, and then what? paste?
[12:45] <Wizard> Remove these packages and dpkg shall automatically switch to xubuntu plymouth themes.
[12:48] <bjorn_> can I write some terminal magic line to do it all, or is it "sudo-apt get remove" on everey package?
[12:49] <Wizard> You can use apt-get remove with a list of packages.
[12:49] <cfhowlett> bjorn_ sudo apt-get remove package1 package2 package3
[12:49] <Wizard> Oh, just like that.
[12:49] <bjorn_> ok
[12:49]  * Wizard hopes bjorn_ won't break anything :>
[12:50] <bjorn_> hahah ;)
[12:50] <bjorn_> dont mind, all files that are important is in my dropbox anyway. this is just my toy computer
[12:51] <Wizard> cfhowlett: 404.
[12:51] <cfhowlett> Wizard eh?
[12:51] <Wizard> rose garden link you gave me.
[12:52] <cfhowlett> Wizard www.rosengardenmusic.com
[12:52] <Tiensbakung> bjorn_: apt-cache search | grep | cut | xargs apt-get install
[12:52] <Wizard> wtf?
[12:52] <Tiensbakung> bjorn_: *remove
[12:53] <Tiensbakung> Wizard: bjorn_ asks for a oneliner for removing all packages
[12:53] <knome> Wizard, watch your language.
[12:54] <knome> Tiensbakung, errr.
[12:54] <Wizard> knome: Oops, sorry.
[12:54] <Tiensbakung> knome: ??
[12:54] <knome> Tiensbakung, no, he didn't.
[12:54] <recon_lap> god I hate closed systems , apple sucks making simple stuff hard
[12:54] <knome> "all packages"
[12:55] <Tiensbakung> knome: sorry, I mean all *matched* packages by grep
[12:55] <knome> ;)
[12:55] <cfhowlett> wizard:      http://rosegardenmusic.com/
[12:55] <JohnN> my shed key has the number 404 on it... the fact I find it funny (and/or crack a it's missing joke) every time I use it I think sayz it all...
[12:56] <knome> if you have non-support related discussions, you can take them to #xubuntu-offtopic
[12:57] <Wizard> Does xubuntu offer something for formatting usb drives? (or floppies) :P
[12:57] <JohnN> sorry :) was just a timing thing...
[12:58] <cfhowlett> Wizard of course!  command line!
[12:58] <knome> JohnN, it's ok, and not only you who i meant
[12:58] <Wizard> :D
[12:58] <knome> Wizard, you can install gparted
[12:59] <Wizard> Sometimes I just miss windows 95's right click→format :D
[13:12] <ronmu> Hello, can anybody help mi resolve my problem? :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221207
[13:14] <knome> ronmu, why don't you delete the partions from gparted before installation since you already have it open?
[13:14] <Poisoned_Dragon> sda6 is shown as mounted
[13:14] <ronmu> knome, because i can't. There's no option to delete this partition
[13:14] <Poisoned_Dragon> that's why it's locked.
[13:15] <ronmu> how can I unmount this partition?
[13:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> which has, in turn locked sd4
[13:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> run gparted before the installer
[13:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> you can unmount in gparted
[13:19] <ronmu> how? There's no option 'unmount'
[13:19] <ronmu> only 'Deactivate'
[13:19] <ronmu> resize/move, manage flags
[13:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> yes, deactivate
[13:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> it's a swap partition
[13:22] <ronmu> 48,34 swap??
[13:22] <ronmu> GB*
[13:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> oh, wait. that should be a swap. it's so big
[13:22] <ronmu> sda6 = lvm2 pv
[13:23] <ronmu> sda5, probably boot partition
[13:23] <ronmu> so should I deactive sda6 (locked)?
[13:24] <Poisoned_Dragon> yeah
[13:50] <ronmu> '/' partition should be logical or primary?
[13:51] <Poisoned_Dragon> you can put / on the moon, if it's a partition connected to your computer.
[13:53] <ronmu> what partition should I create?
[13:53] <ronmu> '/' and swap?
[13:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> How much ram do you have?
[13:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> Do you like to use the hibernate feature?
[13:54] <ronmu> 4gb, sometimes
[13:55] <ronmu> but '/
[13:55] <ronmu> is a 'must' partition? is that right?
[13:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> To use hibernate, swap has to be as big, or bigger than your ram
[13:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> Yes
[13:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> If you didn't set one, the installer will yell at you.
[13:56] <ronmu> ok, thank You for help :)
[13:56] <Tiensbakung> ronmu: make sure / mount to a big enough partition, for me, it's about 20GB
[13:57] <ronmu> Tiensbakung: well I'm going to creater 44GB '/' and ~ 8GB swap file. No home partition.
[13:57] <ronmu> create*
[13:58] <Tiensbakung> ronmu: then you are good to go:)
[13:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> \o/
[14:00] <ronmu> previously I was using fedora 20, but damn, too many kernel errors :/
[14:04] <xubuntu958> hello
[14:04] <xubuntu958> II am currently installing XUbuntu 14.04 on an old IBM ThinkPad
[14:05] <xubuntu958> and the installation stops close to the end
[14:05] <xubuntu958> and the system hangs
[14:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> IBM forbids the use of linux on it's computers.
[14:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> j/k
[14:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> Does it have enough ram?
[14:06] <xubuntu958> hope not :-)
[14:06] <xubuntu958> 2GB should be enough
[14:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh, so it's not super old.
[14:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> core 2 duo?
[14:07] <xubuntu958> no single core
[14:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> so core solo?
[14:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> Pentium M?
[14:07] <xubuntu958> yes
[14:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> Ah, core solo.
[14:08] <xubuntu958> Pentium M758
[14:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> You know there is a drop down terminal display in the installer.
[14:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> You can leave it open and watch where it hangs.
[14:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> Also, check the install for defects.
[14:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> is it a usb stick install?
[14:09] <xubuntu958> No from DVD drive
[14:09] <xubuntu958> so I should restart the installation with drop down terminal open
[14:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well, use the defect checking option at the boot screen.
[14:10] <xubuntu958> I have not seen this.
[14:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> If it fails, you'll know it centers around the dvd or the dvd drive.
[14:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> when you first boot, you know that symbol that shows up on the bottom?
[14:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> keyboard = human
[14:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> when you see that symbol, press any key to show the boot screen.
[14:11] <xubuntu958> yes i can see this
[14:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> choose your language.
[14:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> then select the option that checks the media.
[14:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> Then wait
[14:13] <recon_lap> so, iPhone's are incompatible with ubuntu?
[14:14] <xubuntu958> Thanks Poisoned_Dragon. I will have a look at come back !
[14:14] <Wizard> Uh, I bet that ubuntu offers some iphone-capable app in repos, recon_lap.
[14:15] <recon_lap> Wizard: I've been looking for 2 hours now for a way to get the contact list off this iPhone with no success
[14:15] <Wizard> Thank Apple :)
[14:16] <recon_lap> think's it'd be faster to copy them by hand :(
[14:16] <knome> recon_lap, gtkpod is supposed to help with that.
[14:16] <Wizard> I'll take a look at repo.
[14:16] <Wizard> However, I've never had an iPhone.
[14:16] <ronmu> how to add 'show desktop' activator?
[14:17] <recon_lap> knome: thx, I'll give it a try
[14:17] <Wizard> ronmu: right click on panel → panel → add applet → show desktop
[14:18] <ronmu> Wizard: thank you :) reminds me a meme: 'are you a wizard?' xD
[14:18] <recon_lap> Wizard: not my choice, old 3gs rescued phone. just had to replace the battery. want to get the contacts for the previous owner my mum :)
[14:18] <Wizard> :D
[14:19]  * Wizard slaps ronmu with Andrew Tannenbaum's "Computer networks"
[14:20] <recon_lap> hell, that app is .8g
[14:20] <recon_lap> gig*
[14:20] <Wizard> ?
[14:21] <xubuntu958> Hi Poisoned_Dragon
[14:21] <ronmu> Wizard: I wonder what distro uses Tannenbaum and Linus ;)
[14:21] <xubuntu958> no error found on the DVD
[14:23] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmm
[14:23] <xubuntu958> is there a way to have access to installation log, even if the installation cannot be completed ?
[14:23] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well, that's a plus.
[14:23] <Poisoned_Dragon> Means the disc and the drive are ok.
[14:24] <Poisoned_Dragon> I dunno if there is a persistent log to access, prior to completion.
[14:24] <Poisoned_Dragon> You can try the drop terminal display.
[14:24] <Poisoned_Dragon> When it hangs, you can see where.
[14:25] <xubuntu958> yes sounds good.
[14:26] <Poisoned_Dragon> could always do a test and try another hard drive.
[14:26] <recon_lap> xubuntu958: if you press del or esc you should be able to see the terminal and the text output from the install
[14:26] <meek_geek> who all hates the new firefox ?
[14:26] <Poisoned_Dragon> meh
[14:26] <Wizard> ronmu: Tannenbaum uses minix ;P
[14:26] <Poisoned_Dragon> I use chrome, anyway.
[14:27] <recon_lap> meek_geek: seems little different from the previous one?
[14:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well, they did tweak the interface a bit.
[14:27] <Wizard> meek_geek: It is ok.
[14:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> But, I think it's for the better.
[14:28] <meek_geek> its like chrome wanabe
[14:28] <Poisoned_Dragon> They dropped the ribbon feature
[14:28] <Poisoned_Dragon> If you wanna call it that.
[14:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> In the end, the interface feels like it would be the same on any OS. Which is good. But, this is all off topic.
[14:30] <Wizard> 14.04 already has it, so not so very off-topic.
[14:30] <meek_geek> yep
[14:30] <meek_geek> its on topic only
[14:30] <recon_lap1> hmm, gtkpod just gives me a blank window with not menus
[14:30] <recon_lap1> no*
[14:30] <Poisoned_Dragon> heh, perhaps.
[14:32] <Wizard> Is it possible to set keyboard shortcut for whiskers click?
[14:33] <recon_lap1> and now it's running in the background and i cannot kill it . wtf!!
[14:33] <knome> recon_lap1, watch the language.
[14:34] <Wizard> knome: A script, you use a script for these warnings :D
[14:35] <Wizard> recon_lap1: Hit close button few times and wait a second. xfce will offer killing it.
[14:36] <recon_lap1> Wizard: I closed the window, it is a background process now and i cannot kill it?
[14:36] <Poisoned_Dragon> um, killall -9 firefox?
[14:36] <recon_lap1> looks like I'm going to have to logout / reboot!!
[14:36] <recon_lap1> it's gtkpod
[14:37] <Wizard> Well, just kill it with killall -9
[14:37] <Poisoned_Dragon> oh, killall -9 gtkpod?
[14:38] <knome> Wizard, we don't want a bot-driven channel
[14:39] <Wizard> knome: You mean bot kicking people for bad language?
[14:39] <recon_lap1> no, killall not doing anything, the processes are hanging around , they've locked up my desktop so icons are not showing
[14:39] <Wizard> Oh, probably cpu load skyrocketed :P
[14:40] <recon_lap1> ok, rebooting, seems so like windows , can i cuss now?
[14:41] <Poisoned_Dragon> Meh, I would had done ps aux
[14:41] <Poisoned_Dragon> found the pid and kill that way
[14:42] <Poisoned_Dragon> or not
[14:42] <knome> Wizard, neither that or automatic notices of the language.
[14:42] <Poisoned_Dragon> in fact, ps aux | grep gtkpod
[14:43] <Poisoned_Dragon> sudo kil pid#
[14:43] <Wizard> Poisoned_Dragon: He quit.
[14:43] <Poisoned_Dragon> I know... Just working it out so that I don't obsess over it.
[14:52] <xubuntu958> recon_lap, Pisoned-Dragon, thanks to you, I know a bit more now..
[14:53] <xubuntu958> the install is hanging after Starting CUPS printing spooler/server ok
[14:53] <recon_lap> xubuntu958: does it say what it's doing after the ok?
[14:53] <xubuntu958> no....
[14:54] <recon_lap> xubuntu958: try hitting ctrl-c
[14:54] <recon_lap> xubuntu958: and ctrl-x
[14:54] <recon_lap> or*
[14:55] <recon_lap> xubuntu958: and if it's got to startig cups it may have installed and you might be able to boot into recovery mode to try find the problem
[14:56] <xubuntu958> Ctrl-x and Ctrl-c have no effect. system seems completely dead
[14:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> I wonder why cups would have issues.
[14:57] <Wizard> I wonder why it hangs installation.
[14:57] <Wizard> However, you can try netinstall.
[14:58] <xubuntu958> CUPS is mentioned as OK
[14:58] <Wizard> Is it possible to switch to VT?
[14:58] <xubuntuNoob> hello
[14:58] <Wizard> Hi, xubuntuNoob.
[14:58] <xubuntu958> but some lines earlier, there is a mention of "Starting Restore Sound Card State... fail"
[14:58] <xubuntu958> this might be the problem?
[14:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> No
[14:59] <xubuntuNoob> I was wondering if someone could show me a guide to install Xubuntu on my old beagleboard :) I've been looking for a while with no luck ...
[14:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> That's normal. You're in live session, xubuntu958. So there is no state to restore to. It's going to fail and that's normal.
[15:00] <xubuntu958> I am not in live session, I am doing an actual installation
[15:00] <Wizard> Poisoned_Dragon: failing is normal? This is not windows ;)
[15:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> XD
[15:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> Some fails you can ignore.
[15:00] <xubuntu958> ok
[15:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> If it said that error in a normal install, then worry.
[15:01] <xubuntuNoob> has someone done it before ? (installing Xubuntu on ARM)
[15:01] <Wizard> xubuntuNoob: I did.
[15:01] <Wizard> On PandaBoard.
[15:02] <Wizard> I used default installation, than I installed xubuntu-desktop
[15:02] <Wizard> And than my panda broke.
[15:02] <Wizard> :P
[15:02] <xubuntuNoob> lol
[15:02] <Wizard> Well, not beacuse of ubuntu, obviously.
[15:02] <xubuntuNoob> I used default ubuntu but everything is so slow because of my small CPU
[15:03] <Wizard> On panda it was slow because of I/O waits, I bought faster CF card and it got back to normal.
[15:03] <Wizard> But still, xfce was much more usable than unity.
[15:04] <Wizard> More RAM for apps :)
[15:04] <xubuntuNoob> hum ok ok
[15:04] <xubuntuNoob> I only have 256 Mo of ram so that's another reason to have a light distro. But in the same time I want a graphical one
[15:04] <Wizard> K, time to revive my PPC.
[15:05] <florisvda> I was wondering if there is any information available on how to compile Xfce for Xubuntu from source, it seems to me there are quite a few additional options enabled that aren't active when I run 'vanilla
[15:05] <Wizard> God, good luck with running xfce with 256MB
[15:05] <florisvda>  ' xfce4*
[15:05] <Wizard> Like what options?
[15:06] <florisvda> well for one it seems to be that quite a lot of setting options are missing from the settings manager
[15:06] <Wizard> o_O
[15:06] <xubuntuNoob> damn ! do you know any distro which could run with 256Mo ?
[15:06] <Tiensbakung> xubuntuNoob: crunchbang
[15:06] <Wizard> Dunno, on amd64 xubuntu takes arround 300MB with pretty default setting.
[15:07] <Wizard> florisvda: You will have to use something like fluxbox :P
[15:07] <recon_lap> florisvda: you looking at the setting manager or the systems menu?
[15:07] <xubuntuNoob> ok tahnks I'll look into that hoping that there is a simple way to make it work
[15:07] <Tiensbakung> xubuntuNoob: you should use a window manager rather than a desktop environment
[15:08] <florisvda> recon_lap: xfce4-settings-manager
[15:08] <xubuntuNoob> like openbox ?
[15:08] <xubuntuNoob> a window manager ?
[15:09] <recon_lap> xubuntu958: what I meant that is the install may have installed and gotten stuck configuring something. you may still be able to boot off the hdd
[15:09] <Tiensbakung> xubuntuNoob: Yes, openbox, jvm, fluxbox, i3wm, use the one you are most comfortable with
[15:09] <xubuntuNoob> ok
[15:09] <xubuntuNoob> understood thanks
[15:09] <Tiensbakung> no problem
[15:10] <xubuntuNoob> I have to go bye :)
[15:11] <recon_lap> florisvda: anything in particular your missing? mine seem to have more stuff in there
[15:12] <recon_lap> hmm, seems libimobiledevice has not made it to 14.04 yet :(
[15:16] <Wizard> recon_lap: What's that?
[15:16] <recon_lap> Wizard: a lib that communicates with iPhones apparently, doc are a bit sparse
[15:19] <Wizard> hmm, lib needs an app using it ;D
[15:20] <florisvda> recon_lap: this is the difference: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4664802/xfce4-settings-manager-xubuntu.png vs https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4664802/xfce4-settings-manager-xfce4.png
[15:21] <ronmu> hmm how to create something like in Windows. I mean explorer shortcut on panel? (not places in panel)
[15:21] <florisvda> first one is from a xubuntu-session the second one is from a xfce session
[15:21] <ronmu> to instantly open home folder or other folder
[15:22] <recon_lap> florisvda: who/what are you logged in as on the xface session? do you have admin access?
[15:22] <florisvda> same Linux PAM user for both session, if that is what you're asking?
[15:24] <recon_lap> florisvda: well I've got the full list, I can only guess there is some conflict having both unity and xfce on the same machine. what that is I don't know
[15:40] <krytarik> !info xubuntu-default-settings | florisvda - That's because of this package
[15:44] <krytarik> florisvda: Specifically, the file "/etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/menus/xfce-settings-manager.menu", that is.
[15:45] <freshXubuntuer> hello, can some1 help me please
[15:46] <knome> freshXubuntuer, ask your question and we'll find out
[15:46] <freshXubuntuer> today i came to hotel and when tried to connect to their netowork i havent seen networkmanager app in panel
[15:46] <freshXubuntuer> i tried running "sudo nm-applet" from terminal
[15:46] <freshXubuntuer> and got this error
[15:46] <freshXubuntuer> ** (nm-applet:2061): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-pHXWXRIAVa: Connection refused nm-applet-Message: using fallback from indicator to GtkStatusIcon
[15:47] <holstein> shouldnt need sudo there
[15:47] <freshXubuntuer> actually, it makes difference
[15:47] <freshXubuntuer> without sudo i just got error, and nothing in panel
[15:47] <freshXubuntuer> with sudo i see arrows in panel
[15:48] <holstein> freshXubuntuer: nm-applet should be runinng as the user, AFAIK.. not root
[15:48] <freshXubuntuer> but when i try to connect to desired network
[15:48] <freshXubuntuer> i cannon enter passoword
[15:48] <holstein> freshXubuntuer: but, that doesnt mean running as root will faciliate that
[15:49] <freshXubuntuer> well, error is same when i run it as user
[15:49] <freshXubuntuer> plus, nothing is shown in notification area on panel
[15:49] <holstein> freshXubuntuer: ok.. so dont run that as root.. lets start there
[15:49] <freshXubuntuer> (im using xubuntu 14 btw)
[15:50] <holstein> freshXubuntuer: 14.04*
[15:50] <freshXubuntuer> again, this is error
[15:50] <freshXubuntuer> ** (nm-applet:2061): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-pHXWXRIAVa: Connection refused nm-applet-Message: using fallback from indicator to GtkStatusIcon
[15:50] <florisvda> thanks ubottu krytarik, I'm trying to find out more about xdg though. I'm guessing XDG isn't xfce specific ?
[15:55] <freshXubuntuer> :(
[16:19] <flux242> Hi, with the Desktop->Icons settings I can select what icons to show on the desktop. I have some definitions in my fstab that I do not want to see on the desktop. So I can unselect 'Disks and Drives'. But the problem is that there are some drives I want to see. Is it possible to selectively show or hide drives icons on the desktop?
[16:23] <knome> if they are all mounted, i don't think you can hide some and show some
[16:23] <knome> not sure even if they aren't mounted
[16:29] <flux242> no, they aren't mounted
[16:41] <ronmu> Hello, is it possible to search using whisker menu settings?
[16:41] <ronmu> I mean now I can search application, but if I want e.g. software update I need to go to 'all settings'
[16:41] <ronmu> and then software update
[16:42] <ronmu> it would be much easier -> whisker menu -> software update
[16:42] <knome> not with the current setup
[16:42] <elfy> ronmu: no it isn't possible to search currently
[16:42] <elfy> mmm
[16:43] <ronmu> :(
[16:44] <ronmu> I hope that it will be available soon
[16:44] <knome> well as always, patches are welcome
[16:45] <elfy> ronmu: though it wasn't searchable for in the old menu either
[16:45] <ronmu> I don't know, I have been using ubuntu(unity) and fedora (gnome3)
[16:50] <flux242> ronmu: you can create a quick launch item in a panel
[16:50] <flux242> ronmu: it's not a fix but a workaround
[16:51] <flux242> actually I kept the old application menu and also the quick launch panel at the bottom like it was untill 14.04
[16:52] <ronmu> thanks, I'll check it
[17:09] <tsaavik> anyone know how to get the mpris2 indicator back (the volume knob that has play/pause buttons for audacious, etc)
[17:22] <tsaavik> Think it might be called: indicator-sound-service
[17:23] <flux242> tsaavik: I don't think you need anything else as indicator-sound installed by default
[17:24] <tsaavik> I want the volume knob that 'swallows' the player (audacious)
[17:25] <flux242> like this ? http://cdn.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/image217.png
[17:25] <tsaavik> yeah
[17:25] <flux242> it's by default so
[17:25] <tsaavik> not on mine :(
[17:25] <flux242> what distro?
[17:25] <tsaavik> 14.04
[17:26] <tsaavik> upgraded from 12.04
[17:26] <flux242> well at least vlc works that way
[17:26] <tsaavik> I don't have the volume control at all
[17:26] <tsaavik> any idea what it is called?
[17:26] <tsaavik> right click, about?
[17:26] <flux242> the package is called indicator-sound
[17:27] <tsaavik> when I click 'add new items' on my panel that dosn't show in the list
[17:27] <flux242> check if it installed and if yes you may try to dpkg-reconfigure it
[17:27] <tsaavik> indicator-sound is already the newest version.
[17:28] <tsaavik> hmm, there is another
[17:28] <tsaavik> indicator-sound-gtk2
[17:28] <tsaavik> bah
[17:28] <tsaavik> indicator-sound-gtk2 is already the newest version.
[17:28] <flux242> indicator-sound-gtk2 has dependency to the indicator-sound
[17:28] <flux242> so it's ok
[17:29] <flux242> try to reconfigure them
[17:29] <flux242> ah, maybe its not added to the panel?
[17:29] <flux242> the applet I mean
[17:29] <tsaavik> yeah, any idea what the applet is called?
[17:30] <flux242> check if Notification Area and Indicator Plugin are added to the panel
[17:30] <tsaavik> ah shit, your right
[17:30] <tsaavik> I bet thats it
[17:31] <tsaavik> hahha, yup
[17:31] <tsaavik> indicator
[17:31] <tsaavik> oh wow, its crashing
[17:31] <tsaavik> Plugin "Indicator Plugin" unexpectedly left the panel, do you want to restart it?
[17:32] <tsaavik> atleast I know why it wasn't there, lol
[17:33] <flux242> maybe logoff/login will help. Not sure
[17:33] <tsaavik> I have multiple panels, I was able to add it to another /shruf
[17:48] <SunilJoshi> Hello, I am getting these warnings whenever i perform upgrade on Xubuntu14.04
[17:48] <SunilJoshi> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[17:48] <SunilJoshi> LANGUAGE = (unset),
[17:48] <SunilJoshi> LC_ALL = (unset),
[17:49] <tsaavik> haha, it only crashes if I put it on the top right corner. guess I just won't put it there
[18:15] <trickyhero> so my usb stick is read only how do I make it read or write, or allow me to write to it
[18:16] <trickyhero> sorry, just found out I just had to become root, thought it was the usb stick
[18:22] <cor_r> Hey everyone, Iam using the newest Xubuntu version and am trying to get it to detect my cell phone. But it shows up nowhere when I plug it in. what do I nedd to install for automount/detection?
[18:31] <cor_r> anyone?
[18:48] <cor_r> thanks
[18:51] <nobody18188181> Anyone else experiencing issues with shift + delete with items on the desktop? I'm not getting a dialog and shift + delete will not remove folders on my desktop
[18:54] <brainwash> nobody18188181: did it work in a previous release?
[18:55] <elfy> I got that fleetingly
[19:11] <NorthSide> anyone got a fix for MagicJack?
[19:20] <ciscoftw> trying to use xubuntu with dual monitors via a dell dock... xfce4-display-settings only finds the laptops screen and 1 monitor... any suggestions? using xbuxntu 14 (3.13.0-24-generic)
[19:31] <z4nD4R> Hi all, I've just installed xubu 14.04 and It work pretty well. Only one issue wich I have is about power management. Simply my ntbk is going to lock and shut monitor after 10minutes of no activity.. Even I've set insifinity (or never) .. HW: ThinkPad T420, SW: fresh xubu 14.04... any ideas?
[20:16] <tsaavik> Figured it out, Pidgin is crashing my notification window
[20:17] <tsaavik> this guy has the same issue :D https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/+bug/1181134/comments/17
[20:22] <bjorn_> hi, I migrated from lubuntu by installing xubuntu-desktop, is it possible to have the startup and shutdown screen "xubuntufied"?
[20:22] <holstein> sure.. but why?
[20:23] <holstein> i mean, im just saying that since, you can really mess about and end up with a broken system.. otherwise, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop should prompt for what is needed
[20:24] <elfy> I think that bjorn_ is saying they are still having the lubuntu plymouth/greeter rather than xubuntu after installing -desktop
[20:24] <bjorn_> elfy, exacly
[20:24]  * elfy can't remember what he did about that years ago unfortunately
[20:25] <holstein> yeah, i do remember really messing things up once trying
[20:26] <holstein> something like http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=7533 is a decent place to start
[20:26] <bjorn_> I remember one once told me "if its not broken, don't fix it"... maybe I hang on to the lubuntu until I give it a fresh install
[20:28] <bjorn_> well. its no quick fix it seems. I maybe get back to this later. Thanks anyway, cu
[20:29] <elfy> that was quick ... sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth if it's plymouth causing issues
[21:14] <Yancho> guys my xubuntu 14.04 installation is failing and saying the installer has crashed. then sometimes an error comes saying that there is no space on the disk. however the disk has 20gb free. it normally manages to write 835mb on the hdd however the last run wrote 943mb. it fails when choosing the country. any idea where to look at? already tried burning the iso again
[21:15] <holstein> sounds like a failing hard drive.. i would just test and confirm
[21:15] <holstein> im also not clear on your message, since you seem to reference an already installed failing system, then, an installer that is failing
[21:16] <Yancho> sorry my bad :) i meant that the installation process is failing
[21:18] <holstein> Yancho: i would test hard ware.. memory and hard drive
[21:18] <Yancho> should i test from the live cd itself?
[21:18] <Yancho> memory did 8 passes - no errors
[21:20] <TLangas> Hello everyone! Can someone give me a hand opening ports 137 and 136?
[21:20] <holstein> !firewall
[21:21] <TLangas> I've tried ipables, but there is no iptables service, so I'll try ufw and get back you you
[21:22] <holstein> TLangas: what are you trying to do?
[21:22] <Yancho> holstein, bfore i started speaking with you i did another try and this time it seems its going through - hasn't crashed yet :S will it be possible that i see during the install whats going behind the scenes?
[21:22] <holstein> not sure..
[21:23] <Yancho> then again i didnt press continue yet for choosing my country .. before i used to press it straight away .. will give it a few more minutes and see if it crashes
[21:30] <TLangas> holstein: I'm trying to get Vista to connect to my samba shares.
[21:31] <holstein> TLangas: nothing is prevening that in samba.. though, its likely premissions related.. i make sure the machines can ping, and i pull down firewalls completely behind the LAN to test
[21:33] <TLangas> holstein: ya. I turned the firewalls off again. Vista is the only operating system that fails to connect.
[21:45] <NorthSide> man i keep getting a tumbler error in xbuntu 14.0.4 when extracting files
[21:47] <holstein> remind me what the new transparent window shortcut is?
[21:58] <Yancho> should i check the disk using smartctl?
[22:00] <TLangas> holstein: Thanks for your help. I was able to it working.
[22:31] <holstein> Yancho: thats what i like to use
[23:20] <damianos> I've been using crunchbang on my desktop and loving it. I just got a chromebook and wanted my crouton (xubuntu) install to mimic my #! desktop. My one problem is that I can't for the life of me figure out how to get xfce to use the openbox menu. I did openbox --replace but it seems there's something else I'm missing
[23:22] <holstein> lots.. you should be able to just use the same openblx setup in crouton
[23:22] <holstein> openbox*
[23:22] <holstein> openbox is not part of xfce or xubuntu