| netritious | wrst: yep it was good | 00:23 |
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| wrst | pizza is hard not to be good | 00:23 |
| netritious | also had some home made wings...also baked. first try at buffalo. fam seems happy :) | 00:32 |
| netritious | alrighty...I'm out. bbl | 00:34 |
| cyberanger | Wonder if that'd be anchor bar recipe or Duff's recipe | 00:36 |
| * cyberanger clearly spent too much time in Buffalo | 00:36 | |
| wrst | Howdy netritious | 17:46 |
| netritious | howdy wrst | 17:55 |
| wrst | Happy friday | 17:55 |
| netritious | TGIF! :) | 17:55 |
| * wrst wonders what type of agricultural activities Omnifrog is up to | 17:56 | |
| wrst | That's for sure netritious | 17:56 |
| wrst | what have you been up to? any more interesting stuff? | 17:58 |
| netritious | wrst: yesterday decided to write a bash script for starting/stopping/pausing my containers. | 18:27 |
| wrst | that sounds fairly invovled, I prefer things that have a big stop and play buton to push :) | 18:28 |
| netritious | nah it was easy...simple if[];then statements and one case statement. | 18:29 |
| wrst | ok if/then I get from excel :) | 18:30 |
| netritious | now instead of: lxc-start -o /var/lib/lxc/www/log -l DEBUG -d -c /var/lib/lxc/www/console -n www | 18:31 |
| netritious | lxcadm start www | 18:31 |
| Unit193 | Nice. | 18:33 |
| netritious | thanks Unit193 | 18:34 |
| netritious | here's the code: http://tny.cz/1040ce30 | 18:39 |
| netritious | so what have you been up to wrst? | 18:41 |
| wrst | debating if to put cyanogenmod or some other less popular ROM on my phone | 18:42 |
| netritious | and your arguments for/against cyanogenmod? | 18:43 |
| netritious | Unit193: I intend to add backup and snapshot of directory backed containers to that when time allows | 18:45 |
| netritious | oh and clone of course just to be thorough | 18:46 |
| Unit193 | netritious: I've considered trying out lxc for a bit now, but never got to it, not sure I had a reason to be honest. | 18:46 |
| wrst | well I'm on stock 4.4.2 on my nexus 5 using xposed, and its solid, I really prefer CM because they have busybox ssh etc all in the build but wifi wasn't stable last time I tried it | 18:46 |
| wrst | and I've never had a current nexus device so I'm not for sure what to do :) | 18:47 |
| netritious | decisions, decisions wrst :) | 18:48 |
| wrst | ha ha yes I may slap CM on there and make a nandroid of stock yet again | 18:48 |
| netritious | make a backup, try not to brick it, and have fun | 18:48 |
| wrst | nexus phones are pretty hard to brick | 18:48 |
| netritious | we were thinking along the same lines heh | 18:48 |
| wrst | I don't think its impossible but I think you would have to try to brick | 18:49 |
| netritious | roger. | 18:49 |
| netritious | I've yet to brick anything yet. | 18:50 |
| wrst | glad they made one that has gsm and cdma being equal citizens | 18:50 |
| * netritious looks for the nearest peice of wood to knock on | 18:50 | |
| wrst | only thing I have absolutely bricked was a router, and it wasn't worth messing with a jtag cable to fix | 18:50 |
| netritious | Unit193: I like containers for a lot of resons, but mainly because it's soooo much simpler and lightweight than say KVM, Xen, or VMware. | 18:52 |
| netritious | *reasons | 18:52 |
| netritious | wrst: I thought I bricked a linxyx WRT45G(?) think that's it...the first time I flashed dd-wrt. | 18:53 |
| netritious | spoiler...it wasn't actually bricked lol | 18:53 |
| netritious | argh can't type today... *Linksys | 18:54 |
| wrst | ha ha yeah those were some good routers | 18:54 |
| wrst | just put dd-wrt on my router, it has good specs but the software was terrible, dd-wrt made it much better but I'm still thinking pfsense | 18:55 |
| netritious | i would switch from dd-wrt to tomato if it's supported. way more features and it's like Linux on a router, not dd-wrt on a router...hope that made sense lol. | 18:56 |
| netritious | and if you want some HTML5 goodness, try advanced tomato | 18:56 |
| netritious | and I say 'tomato' I mean 'Tomato by Shibby' | 18:57 |
| netritious | *and when I say | 18:58 |
| netritious | wrst: what router do you have? | 18:58 |
| Unit193 | Tomato on the router, rockbox on the mp3 player, linux on the computer. :D | 19:06 |
| wrst | its a wndr3700 v4 | 19:11 |
| wrst | hmm and I don't know what brand :) | 19:11 |
| wrst | netgear? | 19:11 |
| wrst | and yes netritious I like some HTML5 goodness | 19:11 |
| wrst | netritious: I have in the past used the tool on dd-wrt to get a fully working shell and install stuff etc | 19:12 |
| wrst | but it was a bit of a pain | 19:12 |
| wrst | and the router didn't have enough to drive all of that I was messing with | 19:13 |
| wrst | ok Unit193, netritious, I used to the dd-wrt hold my hand experience. I'm guessing that's not the case with tomato? | 19:19 |
| wrst | *I am used to the hand holding of dd-wrt... totally nonsensical thing I typed previously | 19:22 |
| netritious | actually wrst no it doesn't require anything special already running dd-wrt | 19:26 |
| wrst | ok my router has an aetheros is this broadcom only? | 19:27 |
| netritious | wrst: I'm not entirely sure, but I did read one page of comments on the tomato wiki that states just that -- atheros=no go for tomato | 19:55 |
| wrst | yeah that's a bit of a problem didn't check the chip out before I bought it but dd-wrt is working well | 19:56 |
| wrst | and hey I have a raspberry pi to do linux stuff in a low powered setting | 19:56 |
| netritious | dd-wrt is fine wrst...it works. | 20:22 |
| netritious | I have a netgear also...I think it's a WNDR3400v2? something like that. | 20:23 |
| netritious | also 2x RT-N16 and a few different cheapo TP-Link models | 20:24 |
| netritious | The netgear has stock firmware, and the TP-Links have various -wrt's installed. they all sit in a box on the shelf | 20:27 |
| netritious | I run 'Tomato by Shibby' on a couple of RT-N16's | 20:27 |
| Unit193 | Mmm, yeah. Shibby mods, never tried it actually, but feature list is nice and good to know my routers will be fine with IPv6. (Well, except that dd-wrt micro...) | 20:29 |
| netritious | what do you run Unit193? | 20:31 |
| Unit193 | Tomato, but that's because it's been on there for a while. | 20:32 |
| wrst | oh yeah dd-wrt is so much better than stock | 20:32 |
| cyberanger | I've been using debian mostly, but pfsense gets rotated into use from time to time | 20:32 |
| netritious | if you can live with 2.4GHz and 300Mbps: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320158 | 20:32 |
| netritious | whoops 150Mbps | 20:33 |
| wrst | the N5 has a AC wifi chip... wish I had internet that could need that speed :) | 20:35 |
| netritious | cyberanger: I use pfsense on the perimeter | 20:36 |
| cyberanger | it's a nice setup isn't netritious | 20:41 |
| cyberanger | wrst: yeah, ebp has a flaw along those lines too, no server pushes out a gig a second | 20:41 |
| cyberanger | at least not to one client, even at 3am | 20:42 |
| netritious | yep cyberanger I like it. Still running 2.0.3-RELEASE but glad since openssl was old enough not be susceptible to heartbleed | 20:42 |
| cyberanger | yeah, heartbleed ruined a week here at least | 20:43 |
| netritious | stupid openssl. heard there is a new libressl project but not sure what the point of that is | 20:44 |
| netritious | why not just put the hours into openssl to make it better? but then again, what do I know heh | 20:45 |
| cyberanger | cleaner code, and openbsd just thinks if they devote the time, it'll still see a bad decision slip back in | 20:45 |
| netritious | well hope it works out for the rest of us normal people whatever unfolds. | 20:49 |
| netritious | wrst: I finally got some things done on my (soon to be) very cool computer closet project. | 20:50 |
| cyberanger | yeah, I think it has, linux foundation got facebook and google (and some others) to help pay the bills and support the code | 20:50 |
| netritious | cyberanger: read about that. wasn't to surprised to see that happen. | 20:51 |
| cyberanger | long overdue really | 20:52 |
| netritious | i was surprised last year when someone came up with enough to help keep openbsd afloat. | 20:52 |
| netritious | maybe I shouldn't have been, but I kind of was lol | 20:52 |
| wrst | I really don't understand why more webservers aren't running bsd of some sort | 20:55 |
| netritious | wrst: I've mentally boxed it in as a dependable edge os, mainly because of it's tight security out of the box | 20:56 |
| wrst | and it works well as a device OS like my freenas box, its really more of a device in the way I use it than a server, even though it is a file server | 20:57 |
| netritious | exactly. | 20:59 |
| netritious | Personally I like Linux for devices....any device. Windows 7 and/or Linux for desktop. (I use both everyday.) BSD for edge networking. | 21:03 |
| wrst | I much prefer linux but I guess that is somewhat due to familiarity | 21:04 |
| netritious | BSD=pfSense, which is not exactly BSD. | 21:04 |
| wrst | no but at its core it is, bsd isn't freenas either but freenas is bsd | 21:05 |
| wrst | I do like the network security aspect of it and why pfsense is so tempting for me | 21:06 |
| netritious | wrst: no I mean pfSense is /really/ not exactly like BSD. It uses BSD, but pfSense is almost entirely written in PHP. | 21:12 |
| netritious | After the intial boot phase (loading drivers, mounting filesystems, etc) control is handed off to PHP in the form of init scripts (written in PHP). | 21:13 |
| cyberanger | I tend to favor Debian more and more | 21:15 |
| cyberanger | Centos seems to be improve ing | 21:16 |
| netritious | the pfsense team manages their own packages, with a community of contributors, although sometimes with some work you can install packages directly from freebsd repositories. | 21:16 |
| netritious | cyberanger: Debian is awesome. Just look at Ubuntu. :D | 21:17 |
| Unit193 | :D | 21:20 |
| netritious | I tried CentOS about five years ago...at the time it was sluggish compared to ubuntu on the same hardware, and debian kept asking me for/about drivers. ubuntu kind of picked me, not me it. | 21:21 |
| wrst | Ahh netritious gotcha :) | 21:21 |
| cyberanger | I do, as an example of what not to install on debian | 21:22 |
| Unit193 | wrst keeps trying to get me on Arhc. >_> | 21:22 |
| * wrst puts on his arch elitist cap | 21:22 | |
| netritious | lol | 21:22 |
| wrst | If it has to run I use debian | 21:22 |
| * cyberanger grabs his tinfoil hat | 21:23 | |
| * netritious hands wrst a snickers bar | 21:23 | |
| cyberanger | That's what I love about virtualization | 21:24 |
| cyberanger | Nothing needs to run anymore | 21:24 |
| wrst | True cyberanger and now with containers you can do a lot too | 21:24 |
| Unit193 | Also, chroots can help keep your system cleaner. | 21:25 |
| netritious | wrst: if I try Arch it's after I complete some LFS lol | 21:26 |
| wrst | Ha ha | 21:26 |
| wrst | It will seem super easy then | 21:26 |
| cyberanger | Gotta break a few VM'S today | 21:29 |
| Unit193 | Last time I thought that, they didn't break. | 21:29 |
| Unit193 | Still somewhat thinking of https://www.cyphertite.com/why-cyphertite.php but built all the packages for it so if I decide to, I can simply apt-get it. :P | 21:31 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: yeah, but I know this will, adding cipher to openssl | 22:08 |
| Unit193 | :D | 22:09 |
| cyberanger | http://xkcd.com/1363/ | 22:10 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: adding some new Russian ones | 22:11 |
| cyberanger | (Because pissing off the Kremlin with their own software is SO me) | 22:14 |
| Unit193 | Hah. | 22:15 |
| cyberanger | I would try that with the NSA but snowden did too good a job | 22:19 |
| cyberanger | well, that is to say, making the NSA any more paranoid will be hard (and if I can, I will ;-)) | 22:45 |
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