[00:12] <dodger> ScottK: will do
[00:13] <ScottK> Thanks. 
[00:13] <d_ed> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde-telepathy/+bug/1313611
[00:14] <d_ed> dodger: ^
[00:14] <dodger> ty, was just googling for it :P
[08:20] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:43] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[15:32] <mitya57> Hi, I have prepared Qt 4.8.6 merge in Bzr, is anybody interested in sponsoring it? Test packages are in ppa:mitya57/test2.
[15:32] <mitya57> shadeslayer: ^
[15:43] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1315693] qt-demos doesn't have a desktop file (not in menu) @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1315693 (by Alexander Sashnov)
[15:55] <ScottK> mitya57: sgclark (who's not here now) was working on that with Riddell too.  Not sure what the status is.
[15:59] <mitya57> OK, I'll let sgclark know when he is here.
[16:03] <ScottK> She actually, but great.
[16:08] <mitya57> Ah, indeed, sorry.
[16:10] <ScottK> It is hard to tell just from initials.
[16:46] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1315703] Keyboard shortcuts don't work for non-English layouts @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1315703 (by Christian Mertes)
[17:31] <manchicken> apachelogger: ping
[18:17] <manchicken> apachelogger: This script doesn't actually upload to incoming, that's the problem.
[19:10] <ScottK> xnox: Why are there boost reasons kdepim-dev isn't installable (see the build log for the kopete upload I just did)?
[20:25] <xnox> ScottK: strange, i'll check. on my books i did make kdepim-dev installable as early as possible in the transition.
[20:31] <xnox> apt-get install libakonadi-dev kdepim-dev -> is installable.
[20:34] <xnox> ScottK: kopete it self is at fault =)
[20:35] <xnox> ScottK: kde-pim depends on boost1.55-dev, kopete declares build-dependency on boost1.54-dev -> the two boost dev packages are not co-installable
[20:39] <xnox> there are 24 packges like that. i should really fix up the tracker to include / show those up.
[20:55] <xnox> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kopete/4:4.13.0-0ubuntu3
[20:55] <xnox> looks good.
[21:05] <ScottK> xnox: Thanks.
[21:17] <shadeslayer> ScottK: did you accept homerun for trusty?
[21:17] <shadeslayer> ah yes
[21:17] <shadeslayer> ScottK: thanks alot :3
[21:33] <valorie> hi people, this is written in C++ according to the webpage: www.noobslab.com/2014/02/unofficial-google-drive-grive-tools.html
[21:33] <valorie> any reason we couldn't package it and make it official?
[22:14] <dodger> speaking of cloud storage, we should make it easier for people to set up a secondary ecryptfs, for example for cloud storage sync folders
[22:14] <dodger> it took about 5-10 minutes to set one up for me via terminal, so it's not terrible, but a GUI would be nice
[22:14] <valorie> owncloud doesn't do that, dodger?
[22:15] <dodger> valorie: ah, i don't know - i was talking about commercial services like gdrive, copy, dropbox, etc.
[22:15] <dodger> generally, making it easy and straightforward to set up ecryptfs volumes would be nice :)
[22:16] <valorie> the one Riddell uses is encrypted by default
[22:16] <dodger> then again, i'm not the 99% case of the userbase, and i've turned into a paranoid fellow here recently, so i'm probably not a good measure to gauge by
[22:16] <valorie> trying to remember the name
[22:16] <valorie> spideroak
[22:16] <dodger> ah yes
[22:16] <valorie> I used it for awhile; should start again
[22:17] <dodger> i don't trust it if i don't encrypt it and can be sure that only i have the key :P
[22:17] <dodger> ecryptfs works fantastically for that, it's just not trivial to set up
[22:19] <valorie> well, that is spideroaks entire reputation
[22:19] <valorie> encryption and they don't have your key
[22:20] <dodger> that's a good start - but didn't dropbox say something similar at some point?
[22:20] <dodger> like i said, i've turned a bit paranoid :P
[22:21] <valorie> no
[22:22] <valorie> they have never said that, so I only use it for sharing photos and such
[22:22] <dodger> ah... must have been a different one i'm thinking of
[22:22] <valorie> saving text files I want to share on all computers, etc.
[22:22] <valorie> I figure anyone can break into dropbox, or in the case of the NSA: they already have a backdoor
[22:23] <dodger> yeah
[22:23] <valorie> spideroak is in Australia
[22:23] <dodger> that doesn't necessarily mean much for security though
[22:23] <valorie> no, but read up on them if you are interested
[22:23] <dodger> i will
[22:23] <valorie> security is their bottom line
[22:23] <valorie> not some add-on
[22:23] <dodger> i'd like to regain some trust in humanity :P
[22:25] <dodger> on the plus side of this whole security mess, i've learned a lot about cryptography in the last 6 months ;)
[22:26] <valorie> I wish i had time
[22:26] <valorie> I would like to run a more secure box
[22:26] <dodger> i think for the most part, we're not bad off... apparmor and tripwire are a pretty good start
[22:27] <valorie> that said, it's almost time to set off for dinner
[22:27] <dodger> i mean, it's always a compromise between security and convenience
[22:27] <valorie> I'll google those, dodger
[22:27] <valorie> and that's my problem
[22:27] <valorie> I value convenience highly
[22:27] <dodger> you can do a lot without giving up much convenience
[22:29] <valorie> netwizards.co.uk/installing-tripwire-on-ubuntu/ - gah
[22:30] <dodger> yeah, that's what i mean about making it easy
[22:30] <valorie> already a bit lost reading that
[22:30] <dodger> OS' have a ways to go in providing more security by default
[22:31] <dodger> i'd like to see free operating systems do stuff like make the user generate GPG keys on install... stuff like that
[22:32] <valorie> well, I'm not sure most people need GPG keys
[22:32] <dodger> I wasn't, at first
[22:32] <valorie> given that it isn't that easy to use them with email
[22:32] <valorie> I don't, these days, since firegpg disappeared from gmail
[22:32] <dodger> yeah
[22:32] <dodger> i used to use the gmail web client
[22:32] <valorie> I really should try harder to use kmail again
[22:32] <dodger> but  now switched back to kmail
[22:33] <dodger> because of the encryption and signing capabilities
[22:33] <valorie> well, my main focus now is my dad, who is now in a nursing home
[22:33] <valorie> when he's gone, I'll have more time, and focus more on technical stuff, helping out more, etc.
[22:34] <dodger> family always comes before everything else :)
[22:34] <dodger> i'm just starting to actually contribute, really... figured I've been using Linux and KDE for long enough, time to give something back
[22:34] <valorie> that's what got me here as well
[22:35] <valorie> once the last kid moved out
[22:35] <valorie> anyway, time to head out
[22:35] <valorie> nice talking to you, dodger
[22:39] <dodger> likewise, valorie