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| niberius | hola, como me reconoce mi presonus firebox firiwire | 02:24 |
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| holstein | !es | 02:24 |
| ubottu | En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 02:24 |
| holstein | niberius: i have a firepod | 02:24 |
| holstein | niberius: try starting jack as root, temporarily to test | 02:24 |
| holstein | gksudo qjackctl | 02:24 |
| holstein | open "setup" and make sure you have the firewire driver | 02:25 |
| holstein | press "start" and see if it starts and share error messages at .. | 02:25 |
| holstein | !paste | 02:25 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 02:25 |
| holstein | if it starts as root, try as normal user | 02:25 |
| holstein | if it starts as normal user, enjoy.. if not, try adding your user to the audio group | 02:26 |
| holstein | sudo adduser 'username' audio | 02:27 |
| holstein | ^ this wont hurt to run, just as a test.. | 02:27 |
| holstein | !proaudio | 02:27 |
| ubottu | For information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro | 02:27 |
| niberius | ok | 02:28 |
| === gallo_ is now known as Guest99606 | ||
| Guest99606 | hola | 05:07 |
| rock_star14 | Hey there im new here, I am curious if studio hardware such as digidesign 002 & 003 and focusrite octopre ADAT racks are compatible with this OS and DAWS that are available on this OS cheers | 07:28 |
| rock_star14 | like has anyone tried hardware such as these on ubuntu studio? | 07:28 |
| IotaSpencer | how do I stop the buzzing after pulseaudio and jack start fighting each other | 14:43 |
| IotaSpencer | hello? | 14:47 |
| IotaSpencer | alright, what happens is, I install ubuntu studio, i install the updates from apt-get upgrade for the first time, then after that restart, I get buzzing when system sounds come on, including skype, and any sound that comes through is garbled | 15:16 |
| IotaSpencer | without the updates its fine, once I get the updates it shits the bed | 15:17 |
| holstein | !language | IotaSpencer | 15:25 |
| ubottu | IotaSpencer: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 15:25 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: will you try using the older kernel? and test? | 15:25 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: if you are not using jack, then its *not* jack and pulse audio "Fighting each other" | 15:26 |
| IotaSpencer | well, I have jack and pulse audio installed | 15:27 |
| IotaSpencer | and it only happened after pulse was installed | 15:27 |
| IotaSpencer | and how do you try an older kernel ._. | 15:27 |
| IotaSpencer | I've always updated kernels, not downgraded | 15:27 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: pulse was installed by default | 15:28 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: so, pulse installation did *not* trigger this | 15:28 |
| IotaSpencer | Then what did | 15:29 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: you stated you updated.. so, im suggesting test with the older kernel first, and see if its the kernel update | 15:29 |
| IotaSpencer | alright, then how do I choose an older kernel | 15:30 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: at boot, from grub | 15:31 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: if grub is hidden, you can use shift at boot.. you'll see your currect kernel and previous kernels.. go into the previous menu, and see if there are any older kernels | 15:32 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: please dont spend much time looking for them, or waste more than about 8 minutes trying to do this | 15:32 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: this is *not* a fix, but a troubleshooting step.. | 15:32 |
| IotaSpencer | well, rebooting now | 15:33 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: i do not konw if you have older kernels, nor if this is the issue. its just something that can cause the issue you state, if, indeed, everything was OK prior to updating | 15:33 |
| IotaSpencer | kernels aren't the issue | 15:42 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: if i may, please tell me how you determined that.. | 15:42 |
| IotaSpencer | tried both that I had and neither fixed the problem | 15:42 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: sure. what exactly is the problem? | 15:42 |
| IotaSpencer | >_< | 15:43 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: please tell me exactly the issue | 15:43 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: do you even start JACK? no? correct? | 15:43 |
| IotaSpencer | that systems sounds buzz + skype sounds are garbled | 15:43 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: you just boot the system, and hear buzz? | 15:43 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: sure.. but, you are not using JACK, correct? | 15:43 |
| IotaSpencer | the bloop on skype turns into a buzz | 15:43 |
| holstein | you never start jack? and you never added any PPA's? | 15:43 |
| IotaSpencer | only ppa i have is weechat | 15:44 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: and, you never start jack, correct? | 15:44 |
| IotaSpencer | i thought it started itself | 15:44 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: no | 15:44 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: jack is not something that when installed, is running | 15:44 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: so, you are not using jack, correct? | 15:45 |
| IotaSpencer | alright then how do i start it to see if it helps it | 15:45 |
| IotaSpencer | jack is installed | 15:45 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: no.. jack wont "help" this | 15:45 |
| IotaSpencer | >_< | 15:45 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: jack is not for casual audio like that | 15:45 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: its a professional audio sound server.. meant to do advanced routing, and provide lower latency | 15:45 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: please do *not* throw a new issue into the mix at this point. i am only collecting facts and details | 15:46 |
| IotaSpencer | alright then what other facts do you need | 15:46 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: please confirm you are not using JACK by running "ps aux | grep jack" in a terminal.. you can use a pastebin | 15:46 |
| IotaSpencer | the grep is all that shows up | 15:47 |
| holstein | while in the terminal run "aplay -l" and "arecord -l" and share those via pastebin | 15:47 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: so, jack is not running.. and is not able to be causing the issue here | 15:47 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: there is no fight between pulse and jack going on.. jack is out of the equation.. for future reference | 15:48 |
| IotaSpencer | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7387417/ | 15:55 |
| IotaSpencer | @ holstein | 15:56 |
| * IotaSpencer waits | 16:04 | |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: ok.. if it were me, i would pull up the live CD again, and test that no issues have occured that have caused my hardware to break | 16:04 |
| IotaSpencer | o | 16:04 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: then, i would look into (while the live CD is up) what version of alsa is there,.. and step my installed version back down to that version if its not the same | 16:04 |
| holstein | i would then run pavucontrol and alsamixer and tweak *everything* not trusting the lables | 16:05 |
| holstein | labels* | 16:05 |
| Iota[web] | ok and how do I check which version of alsa each uses? | 16:15 |
| holstein | Iota[web]: i use a package manger.. i like synaptic as a GUI | 16:16 |
| Iota[web] | hmm | 16:23 |
| Iota[web] | Alright the one installed to the live usb is the same as the one in the repo | 16:24 |
| holstein | Iota[web]: ok.. so, its not alsa, nor the kernel, it seems | 16:30 |
| holstein | Iota[web]: what else is there? your user config? you can try the guest account and test audio | 16:30 |
| holstein | test known-good simple audio files.. not 3rd party applications like skype | 16:31 |
| Iota[web] | so like any of my music you mean? | 16:31 |
| holstein | Iota[web]: no.. i mean specifically what i said.. a known-good simple audio file.. a well supported oog file that you know plays | 16:32 |
| Iota[web] | well I don't | 16:32 |
| Iota[web] | lol | 16:32 |
| holstein | not sykpe, or a downloaded mp3 that requires a codec | 16:32 |
| Iota[web] | I don't have any oogs | 16:32 |
| holstein | something you *know* plays, and is supported, and doesnt require anything outside the repos | 16:32 |
| Iota[web] | I don't know what is supported and whats not | 16:33 |
| holstein | Iota[web]: there should be many sounds included in the system, but, again, dont overthink this.. its a troubleshooting step, not a fix | 16:33 |
| holstein | Iota[web]: ogg is open and supported by default, which is why i use, and suggest it for testing purposes | 16:33 |
| Iota[web] | alright, and where would I find the sounds, because I've never actually looked for sounds other than the mp3's I listen to | 16:34 |
| holstein | Iota[web]: i would use one that i konw works.. use what works on the live CD without issue | 16:34 |
| holstein | Iota[web]: anything you have that you know works well, in the default player | 16:34 |
| Iota[web] | =_= | 16:34 |
| holstein | Iota[web]: i dont understand what that is | 16:35 |
| Iota[web] | I don't have anything readily accessible except for mp3s | 16:35 |
| holstein | Iota[web]: then, use them, friend.. just keep in mind, you are assuming mp3 support is not the issue | 16:35 |
| holstein | Iota[web]: so, if you like, somewhere down the line, remove mp3 support from this test equation | 16:35 |
| holstein | Iota[web]: test audio as the guest user.. is it broken as the guest user as well? | 16:36 |
| Iota[web] | i'm on the live usb user | 16:36 |
| Iota[web] | 'Live session user' | 16:37 |
| holstein | Iota[web]: ok | 16:37 |
| Iota[web] | everything works | 16:37 |
| Iota[web] | no ifs ans or butts | 16:37 |
| holstein | Iota[web]: then, test an audio file, keep that audio file in mind. and reboot your "broken" system, and test the *exact* *same* *file* the *exact* *same* way* in the guest user account | 16:37 |
| Iota[web] | alright the music file works, now to switch to the computer part and try | 16:40 |
| Iota[web] | ok, mp3 plays fine both places | 16:46 |
| holstein | Iota[web]: as guest user? | 16:46 |
| Iota[web] | yep | 16:46 |
| Iota[web] | 'Guest' is my user | 16:46 |
| holstein | Iota[web]: ok.. so try again as your normal user, the *same* file the same way | 16:47 |
| Iota[web] | ok | 16:47 |
| IotaSpencer | file could not be opened wut | 16:48 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: im not following.. | 16:49 |
| IotaSpencer | oh, it was still connected as guest, had to remount it as mine | 16:49 |
| IotaSpencer | and the file still work | 16:50 |
| IotaSpencer | s | 16:50 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: ok, so your system wide audio is *not* broken.. what is not working? | 16:50 |
| IotaSpencer | skype calls are garbled, and skype sounds make the sound buzz till I close skype | 16:50 |
| IotaSpencer | or until I restart pulseaudio | 16:51 |
| holstein | sure, but that is an issue with skype not your system sound, as you previously stated | 16:51 |
| holstein | there is no system wide audio issue | 16:51 |
| holstein | just skype, correct? | 16:51 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: where did you get skype? the resos? | 16:52 |
| IotaSpencer | right, but it only happens after the first apt-get update + upgrade after the install | 16:52 |
| holstein | repos* | 16:52 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: no.. it just happened now, friend | 16:52 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: its happening from skype.. now | 16:52 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: regardless.. where did you get skype? | 16:52 |
| IotaSpencer | yes, after the apt-get update + upgrade till I uninstall everything | 16:52 |
| IotaSpencer | skype.com | 16:52 |
| IotaSpencer | whereelse | 16:53 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: the partner repo | 16:53 |
| IotaSpencer | ?? | 16:53 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: please try removing that skype, and installing the partner repo version | 16:53 |
| IotaSpencer | whats the partner repo ppa or whatever | 16:53 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: the partner repo *is* the repo | 16:54 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: please relax.. i am finding resources for you | 16:54 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: this looks OK.. http://www.noobslab.com/2014/01/skype-released-new-version-install-in.html though, i would consider not installing skype-wrapper | 16:56 |
| holstein | regardless, now you know where the issue is.. and its not with the system, or any ubuntu or linux packages | 16:56 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: remove the version you have installed first | 16:56 |
| IotaSpencer | o_O | 17:03 |
| IotaSpencer | that fixed it | 17:03 |
| * IotaSpencer is confoozed | 17:03 | |
| IotaSpencer | I'm guessing I should just accept it and get on with my life | 17:06 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: let skype know you had an issue with their product | 17:10 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: the biggest issue with this is tracking it down, and not assuming anything | 17:11 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: we are not allowed to know what skype is doing, so, we cant support it, but they are always welcome to.. they = skype maintainers | 17:11 |
| IotaSpencer | and its back, I restarted and the buzzing is back | 17:14 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: the buzzing in skype? | 17:14 |
| IotaSpencer | yep | 17:14 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: make certain skype is causing the issue, and let them know | 17:14 |
| holstein | you can file bugs against it.. | 17:14 |
| holstein | !bug | 17:15 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 17:15 |
| holstein | but, upstream would really be the "best" way to deal with it | 17:15 |
| IotaSpencer | it worked for a bit when I installed it like you said, but once I restarted it started buzzing | 17:15 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: restarted what? | 17:15 |
| IotaSpencer | my computer | 17:15 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: ok.. let the skype maintainers know you have an issue with their product | 17:16 |
| IotaSpencer | o,o | 17:25 |
| IotaSpencer | If I reinstall it works again | 17:25 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: sure.. let them know | 17:26 |
| OvenWerk1 | I found when I first started skype that my speaker volume was too high and I had noise. Once I lowered it a funny thing happend and skype took over controling the level. | 17:35 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: yeah, that is true ^ | 17:38 |
| holstein | try setting control for skype to manual | 17:38 |
| holstein | could be just overblowing the settings | 17:38 |
| IotaSpencer | I never set skype to manage my sound though lol | 17:39 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: you dont have to | 17:39 |
| OvenWerk1 | I didn't either it just did | 17:39 |
| IotaSpencer | unticked it | 17:39 |
| holstein | IotaSpencer: you can confirm those settings to be sure. because that is the default setup | 17:39 |
| wickedheadache | so i should stop updateing the general kernal and start the rt update at 13.10? | 20:05 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: 13.10 is nearly EOL | 20:06 |
| holstein | there is no rt kernel. just the lowlatency one.. if thats what you are referencing | 20:06 |
| wickedheadache | nope referenceing the realtime kernal | 20:11 |
| wickedheadache | i know it's ot supported | 20:11 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: there is no RT kernel, so you are probably using it from a PPA? | 20:11 |
| wickedheadache | but its what i need | 20:11 |
| wickedheadache | not sing it yet | 20:12 |
| wickedheadache | afaik 12.04 was last rt kernal | 20:12 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: you can always make whatever kernel you like | 20:13 |
| holstein | you should try the lowlatency kernel, and the generic ones | 20:13 |
| wickedheadache | correct | 20:13 |
| holstein | i have hardware that actually gets lower latency do to better hardware support in the generic kernels of late | 20:13 |
| wickedheadache | but i don't want to g past a version where work had ended on rt | 20:14 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: they are labeled | 20:14 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: you should try the lowlatency ones | 20:14 |
| wickedheadache | not from where i've been looking | 20:14 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: there is really no need anymore for hard coded rt kernels like that | 20:14 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: look in your actual system and setup with the actual kernel running | 20:14 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: test first hand | 20:14 |
| wickedheadache | that what they said about 64.bit systems | 20:15 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: they? | 20:15 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: *you* try it, friend.. you can try it with the live CD | 20:15 |
| wickedheadache | yes they the speculators | 20:15 |
| wickedheadache | i have tried it | 20:15 |
| holstein | otherwise, there are many PPA's with rt kernels.. and other ways to run whatever kernel you like | 20:15 |
| wickedheadache | and i will again | 20:15 |
| wickedheadache | xD | 20:15 |
| holstein | 14.04 and 12.04 are soon to be the only supported versions | 20:16 |
| holstein | neither have rt kernels | 20:16 |
| wickedheadache | it is likely i'll have both an rt and general "low latency" just for hw support and fixes etc | 20:16 |
| holstein | have what you like.. | 20:16 |
| holstein | if your question is, should i stop upating the rt kernel, my answer is, use a supported kernel | 20:17 |
| holstein | kxstudio ppa's are well trusted and supported.. | 20:17 |
| wickedheadache | so stop at 12.04 and update from there, maintain that rt kernal...and use a supported kernal for general use ty | 20:18 |
| wickedheadache | hmm | 20:18 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: 12.04 has no rt kernel | 20:19 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: run 14.04 with whatever kernel you like, if you are comfortable supporting them on your own | 20:19 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: 14.04 is what is suggested to be using | 20:19 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: you likely dont need an RT kernel anymore.. i find, first hand, on *all* my gear, i dont need it anymore | 20:19 |
| holstein | if you find you want, or need RT kernel, use one.. there are ppa's | 20:20 |
| holstein | you should be using 14.04.. but, 12.04 is still supported if you prefer | 20:20 |
| holstein | neither provide out of the box rt kernels | 20:20 |
| wickedheadache | nor does kxstudio? | 20:20 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: kxstudio provides a PPA that many use in ubuntustuduio | 20:21 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: you can ask kxstudio if they have an rt kernel | 20:21 |
| wickedheadache | it really never was supported | 20:21 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: what really never was? | 20:21 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: there was an officially supported rt kernel in 9.10.. that kernel was pulled forward to 10.04 | 20:21 |
| wickedheadache | rt kernals...well les then others | 20:21 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: then, we added the officially supported lowlatency kernel | 20:21 |
| wickedheadache | i'm glad it hung on for so long | 20:21 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: there is no need for RT kernels. you should test first hand and see for yourself | 20:22 |
| wickedheadache | i wonder why you say tere is o need? | 20:22 |
| wickedheadache | what do you do with your pc? | 20:22 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: our upstream https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia#Realtime_kernel | 20:22 |
| holstein | "The Debian Multimedia team is not working on including a kernel image with the realtime-patches applied in Debian. Much of the realtime-patches have been accepted in the mainline kernel, to the point that for most purposes the stock Debian kernel is suitable even for realtime-like work." | 20:22 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: i work on what i need to work on | 20:23 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: i can facilitate realtime effects processing, and software synths live in realtime with the lowlatency kerne | 20:23 |
| holstein | kernel* | 20:23 |
| holstein | that is all RT is needed for | 20:23 |
| wickedheadache | nice link xD | 20:23 |
| wickedheadache | i think it gets confusing what happens between low lateny and real time...quick doesn't mean everything asap | 20:24 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: ubuntu is not working on one either.. but, we provide a lowlatency one that is an nice "balance" as more and more of the generic kernel becomes appropriate | 20:24 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: do you do realtime effects processing? | 20:25 |
| wickedheadache | uh yea you could say that | 20:25 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: ? | 20:25 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: do you? | 20:25 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: do you use the machine to provide effects such as distortion for a guitar in realtime? | 20:26 |
| wickedheadache | if softwae needs it then yes | 20:26 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: software doenst | 20:26 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: do you? | 20:26 |
| wickedheadache | uh ok | 20:26 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: do you use the computer for realtime effects processing? | 20:26 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: like a stompbox emulator for a real time performance on the guitar? | 20:26 |
| wickedheadache | see this is what people don't seem to understand | 20:27 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: correct, thats why im asking.. | 20:27 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: if you dont do it live, you dont need lower latency settings | 20:27 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: do you do software synths live, as an instrument? | 20:27 |
| wickedheadache | real time applies to many things | 20:27 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: not really | 20:27 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: it applies specifically to needing sound to happen in "realtime" | 20:27 |
| wickedheadache | its not simply, will someone use thi or that | 20:28 |
| wickedheadache | and not for just audio | 20:28 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: you play the guitar, and the affected sound happens in relative realtime, so you can use it, like a stompbox | 20:28 |
| wickedheadache | i get that | 20:28 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: or, when you play a MIDI keyboard, you want the synth sound to occur relatively in sync with pushing the keys | 20:28 |
| holstein | not 30 miliseconds later | 20:29 |
| wickedheadache | low latency may stil not be able to multi task in real time? | 20:29 |
| holstein | if not doing those 2 things, then, 30 miliseconds doesnt matter | 20:29 |
| wickedheadache | hehe | 20:29 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: correct, RT is *not* relating to multitasking, or a "better" system. or "more performance" | 20:29 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: its specificialy only for that.. lower latency | 20:29 |
| wickedheadache | timing is everything in music particulrly live | 20:29 |
| wickedheadache | wow | 20:30 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: sure.. and im specificallly referencing live as the use case | 20:30 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: *only* live | 20:30 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: otherwise, it dosnt matter if, for example, you have a session loading in ardour, and you press play, and 40 miliseconds later is plays back | 20:30 |
| wickedheadache | so this is what happened to the rt kernal? it was taken over by pro audio? | 20:30 |
| holstein | the time there is irrelevant, and doesnt effect the quality of the work | 20:30 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: the RT kernel is gone, friend | 20:30 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: the patches were mostly integrated, as the link states, into the generic kernels | 20:31 |
| wickedheadache | it will be back i get the feeling low lat will not suit my needs | 20:31 |
| wickedheadache | but i will ty it | 20:31 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: if you need lower latency, you may | 20:31 |
| holstein | but the kernel is only one part of it | 20:31 |
| holstein | the driver support is more important to facilitating lower latency | 20:32 |
| wickedheadache | latency is not my only concern | 20:32 |
| holstein | as i stated above, i can get lower latency with a generic kernel with a particular USB device | 20:32 |
| wickedheadache | that it is driver and hw support is vital | 20:32 |
| holstein | that is not related to the RT patch, but the driver support | 20:32 |
| holstein | so, if you want lower latency, or need it, which im still not sure you do.. the kernel patch is only one part of it | 20:32 |
| wickedheadache | so how woul an ha enviroment play into Low lat systems? | 20:33 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: a "ha environment" ? | 20:33 |
| wickedheadache | do i get similar things going down the ha path? | 20:33 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: either you need higher priority or not | 20:34 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: you determine if you do, then do what needs to be done | 20:34 |
| wickedheadache | or both | 20:34 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: not following | 20:34 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: as i said, these patched kernels are just part of the equation | 20:34 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: driver suppport is much more crucial. and a patched kernel will likely not "Fix" that in any way | 20:35 |
| wickedheadache | in an ha / cloud enviromeny many cpus hd's etc will be used at once | 20:35 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: for proaudio, you would want to track to a different drive than the OS is on, ideally | 20:35 |
| wickedheadache | the general 14 version supports much of the ground work for a cloud or share resouces | 20:36 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: otherwise, no such ha patches will really do much to facilitate an audio production enviroment | 20:36 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: sure.. and thats nothing to do with audio | 20:36 |
| wickedheadache | correct | 20:36 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: or video | 20:36 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: if you want or need waht it provides, use it | 20:36 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: if the question is, will ha help me in audio.. i dont see anything that suggests that | 20:36 |
| wickedheadache | much of the performane increase woon't be noticable if the pc is not setup correctly anyway | 20:37 |
| holstein | hard drive access will not facilitate or improve driver support | 20:37 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: is your hard drive the bottleneck for your audio production? for me, its not | 20:37 |
| wickedheadache | it always is xD | 20:37 |
| holstein | so, im not looking for kernel patches to address an issue i dont have | 20:37 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: i doubt that it is | 20:37 |
| wickedheadache | but i guess i won't know how well low lat supports clouds until its tried | 20:38 |
| holstein | but again, if you want/need it, make it happen | 20:38 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: clouds? | 20:38 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: servers? | 20:38 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: you should use the generic on a server.. its what the server OS ships with | 20:38 |
| wickedheadache | right i will i just want some idea of future conflicts and bugs i guess | 20:38 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: you dont want an audio specific rt or lowlatency for a server machine | 20:38 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: if you are not doing audio production, you are not in the correct zone | 20:39 |
| wickedheadache | audio is part of it | 20:39 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: sure.. and its not going to help you on a server like that | 20:40 |
| wickedheadache | it sure would | 20:40 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: you are in the wrong place.. and neither an rt or lowlatency kernel is correct for a server | 20:40 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: if you think it would, feel free to try it | 20:40 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: its not intended for what you are talking about | 20:40 |
| wickedheadache | there is no right place for this stuff xD | 20:40 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: yes.. a server channel | 20:40 |
| wickedheadache | intentions are relevent | 20:40 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: the kernel the server version ships with will be appropriate | 20:40 |
| wickedheadache | right unless you built the server | 20:41 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: use what you like, friend. the lowlatency and rt kernels are not for yout task | 20:41 |
| wickedheadache | it seems they are by our discussion so far | 20:41 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: ? | 20:41 |
| wickedheadache | i'm glad your around to chat about stuff | 20:42 |
| holstein | anyways.. good luck and try a server community. cheers@ | 20:42 |
| wickedheadache | ty | 20:42 |
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