| bluesabre | Python 2.7 EOL has been moved to 2020 | 01:38 |
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| Unit193 | That's good, I use stuff with py2. | 01:42 |
| sidi-valencia | sad | 02:18 |
| sidi-valencia | please dont write *new* code in py2 :( | 02:19 |
| Unit193 | I don't wite it, I use existing and hack on it. | 02:19 |
| Logan_ | Unit193: your hacking should include running 2to3 :P | 02:50 |
| stormlink | anyone around? | 03:18 |
| Logan_ | stormlink: yeah, what's up? | 03:23 |
| stormlink | I've been lurking in the dev list for some time now, I want to start actually helping around | 03:24 |
| stormlink | not sure where to really start | 03:24 |
| stormlink | I do Python | 03:24 |
| Logan_ | ali1234? | 03:27 |
| jphilipz | hi all, just found a bug in xfce that effects xubuntu and wanted to bring it to your attention | 03:33 |
| jphilipz | it involves thunar's calculation of file sizes | 03:36 |
| jphilipz | thunar is dividing by 1000 rather than 1024 when calculating kilobytes, megabytes and gigabytes | 03:40 |
| jphilipz | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10864 | 03:40 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10864 in core "thunar incorrectly showing file sizes" [Critical,New] | 03:40 |
| brainwash | interesting.. firefox launches significantly faster without irqbalance doing its magic in the background (sudo service irqbalance stop) | 10:36 |
| brainwash | fresh boot mainly | 10:37 |
| bluesabre | yay, I finally recreated the crash I've been trying to make knome do | 10:37 |
| knome | yay ;) | 10:37 |
| knome | so i don't need to?! | 10:37 |
| brainwash | buglibre? | 10:37 |
| bluesabre | oh | 10:38 |
| bluesabre | that stings | 10:38 |
| bluesabre | :'( | 10:38 |
| brainwash | :P | 10:38 |
| knome | lol | 10:38 |
| knome | i can though | 10:38 |
| knome | i could do that relatively soon | 10:38 |
| knome | wife's laptop is free | 10:38 |
| brainwash | coding a menu editor seems to be a tough job | 10:38 |
| bluesabre | I've got it now | 10:38 |
| bluesabre | first I had to get rid of the xubuntu menu files | 10:38 |
| bluesabre | the bug originates from the upstream xfce one | 10:39 |
| brainwash | the default Xfce session one? | 10:39 |
| bluesabre | /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu | 10:39 |
| brainwash | how do they get mixed? | 10:39 |
| bluesabre | dunno | 10:40 |
| bluesabre | knome: latest commit should fix your issue | 12:17 |
| bluesabre | (re: menulibre) | 12:17 |
| * bluesabre downloads all ubuntu flavors for additional testing | 12:18 | |
| knome | with the broken menu file, or should not be able to reproduce? | 12:19 |
| bluesabre | it probably won't work with the broken menu file | 12:43 |
| bluesabre | :( | 12:43 |
| bluesabre | but it will not break future menu files | 12:43 |
| bluesabre | I hardened the code | 12:44 |
| bluesabre | so, the reason it crashes is because I was not giving the correct name to xfce-settings.directory | 12:44 |
| bluesabre | so with the parent file, it was being added, and with the child file, it was being added again | 12:45 |
| bluesabre | (with a different name) | 12:45 |
| bluesabre | this caused gnome-menus to die | 12:45 |
| knome | >__< | 12:47 |
| bluesabre | and I never caught this before because I was using the xubuntu menu file | 12:57 |
| bluesabre | >.< | 12:57 |
| amigamagic | the shift-control-cursor_key thing with abiword was indeed a bug of the current 3.0.0 version: http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13596 | 12:59 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.abisource.com bug 13596 in Editing - Key/Click Bindings "Shift-control text selection no longer works" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 12:59 |
| sidi-valencia | https://github.com/Sidnioulz/SandboxUtils/tree/master/mockups/sfcd-autocompletion | 13:00 |
| sidi-valencia | oops | 13:00 |
| sidi-valencia | that was for shimmer | 13:00 |
| amigamagic | anyway I think very few people use abiword instead of libreoffice write (maybe xubuntu should switch from abiword -> write?). I'm using it now (abiword) to write some notes, because I'm too lazy to install libreoffice... :D | 13:04 |
| amigamagic | hey, people, do you know that linux kernel 3.13.x branch is now in its EOL stage (check https://www.kernel.org/)? This means no more support and bugfixes from kernel mantainers... Shouldn't we switch to a supported stable branch like the 3.14.x one? | 13:09 |
| brainwash | no, the ubuntu guys will maintain 3.13 | 13:09 |
| knome | amigamagic, we're not the team that supports the kernel whatsoever | 13:09 |
| amigamagic | brainwash, so the ubuntu guys will mantain the kernel 3.13 line their self with stuff like bugfixes, security fixes, etc., albeit the main developers of the kernel don't support it anymore? | 13:11 |
| brainwash | yes | 13:12 |
| brainwash | it's a kernel with a custom config and ubuntu specific patches after all | 13:12 |
| amigamagic | ok, thanks for the info. I read from the changelog that 3.14 kernel has a better support for last intel integrated gpu so I would like to try it on a machine (Intel Xeon with integrated intel GPU on the same die) that has some little graphics troubles with previous kernel. | 13:16 |
| amigamagic | Do you think I can try 3.14 kernel on ubuntu? | 13:16 |
| amigamagic | Is there some backport repository or something like that? | 13:16 |
| bluesabre | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ | 13:17 |
| bluesabre | unsupported, but better than installing yourself | 13:17 |
| amigamagic | thanks bluesabre! | 13:17 |
| bluesabre | when the next ubuntu release is available, it's kernel version will be available to trusty as well | 13:17 |
| bluesabre | I used those packages in 13.10 because my laptop needed the newest | 13:18 |
| amigamagic | sorry for the very ignorant question, but how can I install this on a ubuntu machine? linux-image-3.14.1-031401-generic_3.14.1-031401.201404141220_amd64.deb | 13:19 |
| amigamagic | I double click on it and it does it all by himself? | 13:20 |
| bluesabre | download each of the files for your architecture | 13:22 |
| bluesabre | then open a terminal to your Downloads folder | 13:22 |
| bluesabre | and do | 13:22 |
| bluesabre | sudo dpkg -i linux*.deb | 13:23 |
| bluesabre | also, grab the _all one as well | 13:23 |
| bluesabre | this should cover any bases, including dkms modules | 13:23 |
| amigamagic | very thanks, bluesabre ;) | 13:24 |
| bluesabre | oh wait | 13:24 |
| brainwash | but it does not include new firmware files | 13:24 |
| bluesabre | don't grab the lowlatency ones | 13:24 |
| bluesabre | right, but for most things they are set up with dkms, so they will be set up when the kernel is installed | 13:24 |
| sidi-valencia | amigamagic, brainwash yes you should switch D: | 13:24 |
| brainwash | distro? or what? :P | 13:25 |
| sidi-valencia | ahah | 13:25 |
| sidi-valencia | *i* did not say that | 13:25 |
| sidi-valencia | kernel | 13:25 |
| bluesabre | regardless, your previous kernel versions will remain installed, and you can switch between them in grub | 13:25 |
| brainwash | ah, still running 3.11 on my main system | 13:25 |
| amigamagic | brainwash, what's that new firmware files thing? | 13:26 |
| sidi-valencia | amigamagic, there is a PPA somewhere from ubuntu-kernel with the latest kernels | 13:26 |
| brainwash | amigamagic: ignore it right now | 13:27 |
| brainwash | you might need some new firmware files if you are using brand new hardware | 13:27 |
| brainwash | but the kernel install routine should tell you what's missing | 13:28 |
| amigamagic | do you think something that now works with an ubuntu 12.04 lts distro, could break after installing the kernel 3.14 ? | 13:29 |
| sidi-valencia | amigamagic, no? | 13:29 |
| sidi-valencia | unless there are bugs, why would it break | 13:29 |
| sidi-valencia | the two issues you can get are: bugs and no-longer-supported firmware | 13:29 |
| amigamagic | I mean, some hardware that before worked and now it is not more recognized... It's possible? | 13:29 |
| amigamagic | ethernet cards, gpu, etc. | 13:30 |
| sidi-valencia | yes | 13:30 |
| brainwash | everything is possible | 13:30 |
| sidi-valencia | if there is a proprietary driver | 13:30 |
| sidi-valencia | and they didnt update it | 13:30 |
| sidi-valencia | it could be possible | 13:30 |
| amigamagic | ok so I should only try... thanks | 13:45 |
| brainwash | elfy: bug 1315716 | 19:30 |
| ubottu | bug 1315716 in thunar "Thunar: No confirmation prompt when force-deleting (SHIFT+DEL)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1315716 | 19:30 |
| brainwash | the upstream report is targeting xfdesktop and not thunar | 19:30 |
| elfy | then change one - obviously the same bug | 19:31 |
| brainwash | mmh, the ubuntu one does not mention "desktop" at all | 19:31 |
| brainwash | so I would assume that it is a general problem | 19:32 |
| elfy | certainly don't get a confirmation here | 19:45 |
| elfy | left a comment for them to read or ignore | 19:49 |
| elfy | if they confirm I'll sort the packages out on it - if they don't I'll ask them to check again ;) | 19:50 |
| brainwash | elfy: thanks | 19:50 |
| === hobgoblin is now known as elfy | ||
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