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GridCube:(00:14
GridCubemy computer is all crashing again00:14
NallemanHi, dark theme? how to get  menu background etc. in a more plesant color?00:48
Unit193Use MediterraneanDarkest?00:51
NallemanUnit193, Is it a download?00:52
Unit193Yes.00:52
NallemanSo, then the question where to download themes :)00:53
Nallemanand how to install00:53
larrypgNalleman, xfce-look.org00:54
Nallemanlarrypg, thanks!00:55
NallemanWhere to save the theme files, or how to find where?01:07
drcNalleman: The easiest place is ~/.themes, you may have to create it.01:08
Nallemandrc, ok. then the theme manager have a look there and check what I have customised?01:09
drcI've never used the theme manager, but I would suspect so.01:10
Nallemandrc, how do you choose your theme then?01:10
drcSettings>Appearence>Style...but I just use ochosi's default greybird01:11
drcDepending on what you're using, you may have to use Settings>Window Manager>Style also01:12
Nallemandrc, ok. that whas what I thought of as "theme manager" :)01:15
drcOh OK, sorry then.01:16
Nallemannp, my enlish is a bit fussy so sometimes I cant express myself01:17
drcYour English is fine, names especially can be tricky, I've seen two people trying to help/het help go crazy simply because one person called it X and the other Y and neither knew what the other was talking about :)01:19
larrypgNalleman, have you tried...http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=149647 ?01:22
larrypgNalleman, that has to do with xfce-theme manager01:23
Nallemanhehe :) Well, now the problem is that the theme does not show up in "Settings>Appearence>Style" even though I put them in .themes directory01:24
Nallemanlarrypg, no, will have a look01:24
Nallemanmaybe log off/ log on will do?01:26
NallemanI will have a try, brb01:27
indy_how do i customize my xubunty 14.04 desktop? any goo ideas?01:29
Nallemannope, I can't load the extracted themes.01:31
drcNalleman: ok, the theme is in ~/.themes?01:31
larrypgNalleman, just another place to look...http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/install_new_themes01:33
Nallemandrc. well. sorry, i found that they where actually in the "window manager", talking about x and y :)01:34
drc :)01:35
chrispage1980So the device I'm using is Logitech K400r - Hold down the blue funtion key and the left trackpad key simultaneously. - No software required, OS is irrelevant.02:25
chrispage1980Same again to turn tap to click back on02:26
holsteinchrispage1980: it works "out of the box" for me02:29
shareXubuntu rocks my socks02:39
gryi wanted to ask why texworks isn't included by default04:50
gryit's so much more wonderful and powerful than libreoffice04:50
xanguaneither libreoffice is incluided, but you can install both if you wish can't you¿05:05
xubuntu178anyone here and can help me to rescue a bit of my windows files06:20
xubuntu178xubntu have deletet all and installt only xubuntu06:20
xubuntu178bt i selectet to install xubuntu with windows06:21
goodtimei did the upgrade on this and it just kept freezeing in like every 10 minutes after bootup06:29
goodtimeso i reinstalled 13.1006:29
goodtimejust fine for days now06:29
goodtime\sure would have liked to have had the latest LTS though06:31
goodtimesure*06:31
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z4nD4RHii all, is here some alive? :P Q: I've changed my sound driver to alsa. Everything works but notify bar by changed volume dissapears... any ideas?09:07
starratsz4nD4R is that the one up by the clock that is missing?09:23
starratsdamn he quit alreadt09:24
Golynxhi, i cant seem to find a search tool that is similar to Unity search in Xubuntu. Like when searching for images it just shows a black icon instead of the images. Why is xubuntu so limited when it comes to searching for stuff on he pc ?09:36
starratsGolynx are you on xubuntu 14.04?09:39
starratsAre you searching for what's on xubuntu or?09:39
Golynxstarrats: no , i'm still on 12.04 lts . I will get a new dvd with xubuntu 14.04 lts on it in this month09:40
starratsah okay09:40
Golynxno i want a tool like unity search in xubuntu09:41
starrats14.04 uses the whisker menu at the top of the left hand corner for finding everything in xubuntu.09:41
Golynxlike it shows previews of images and videos in search results09:42
starratsthe icon is thxubuntu mouse profile09:42
starratsah okay not familiar with that, sorry09:42
Golynxokay, so you guys made a default search tool for 14.04 in xubuntu09:43
Golynxi dont like catfish09:43
starratsI don't like catfish either, lol09:44
Golynxa great thing to have will be to have a search input bar in thunar , to help search for files and folders easily09:44
Spike29starrats: the whisker menu only search for applications, not files :(09:45
starratsmost of the nicks I see helping folks are not currently on, don't know why09:45
starratsI know Spike29, thought that is what he was looking for09:46
Spike29ok :)09:47
Spike29Golynx: you could use synapse ( https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/synapse/ )09:47
Golynxthe whisker thing is not what i wanted. Looks like catfish will have to stay for a while09:47
GolynxSpike29: ty , but i always keep Zeitgeist disabled. I will try that though09:50
amigamagicwhat do you dislike of the whisker menu?09:51
amigamagicand what do you dislike of catfish?09:52
amigamagicmaybe they are not so "bells and whistles" as Unity is, but they do the job...09:53
Spike29amigamagic: ofc, and I use both of them09:53
Spike29but some people prefer one tool to search apps and files, like synapse or the Unity dash09:54
starratsI should not have said "I don't like catfish either, lol' just not have used it enough to appreciate it, :)09:55
amigamagicyou have to consider that Unity is a big and heavy thing, so Ubuntu is much slower on old pc. Anyway, who likes Unity, should use Ubuntu, not Xubuntu.09:55
starratsthis is true amigamagic09:56
Golynxsynapse just gives one result lol09:57
amigamagicand many people (like me) don't like the very poor customizability of the UI in Unity or Gnome309:57
amigamagic(for example, I hate the vertical taskbar on the left of the screen, but you cannot change its position... You have to accept is as the designer liked.)09:59
Golynxcatfish is an okay search tool. When used as custom action in Thunar it works well.09:59
bluesabreso, what would make it a great search tool?10:00
bluesabreI'm the developer, so I'm always looking for feedback :)10:01
amigamagicanyway I suggest to continue this topic on the xubuntu-offtopic channel, before comes knome with thunders and lighning :D10:01
Golynxbluesabre: for it to be a great search tool i would like the results of the images previews to show the images instead of black icons. And having a quick search input bar on the Thunar header will make it perfect.10:02
bluesabreoh, there is a preview mode now that displays the images10:03
bluesabrethe button to the left of the menu button10:03
Golynxbluesabre: i mean the catfish search results10:04
Spike29Golynx: you're using 12.04, that's why you don't have it yet :p10:05
bluesabreah10:05
bluesabrelook forward to http://imagebin.org/30875010:05
GolynxSpike29: which version of catfish have that10:05
bluesabre:)10:05
bluesabre1.010:05
bluesabreolder versions also have thumbnails when started as "catfish --thumbnails"10:06
Golynxoh , thank goodness :)10:06
Golynxty guys this will work perfect10:07
bluesabre:) good to hear10:09
c2tarunI don't remember XFCE look this http://imagebin.org/308755  UGLY, what did I miss?10:40
brainwashc2tarun: select a proper theme via settings manager > appearance10:41
c2tarunbrainwash, yeah I changed it, after I took the screenshot, but why is everything so opaque? I can't make any of my panels transparent?10:42
brainwashright click on the panel and configure it :)10:43
c2tarunAlso all the buttons are so Squared :P I remember there was slight curve at the corners.10:43
c2tarunbrainwash, I tried its not highlighted?10:43
c2tarunbrainwash, I tried its not highlighted!10:43
brainwashsee http://images.maketecheasier.com/2013/08/xfce-new-panel-alpha-configuration.png10:44
brainwashthe button shape is defined by the gtk theme10:45
c2tarunbrainwash, thanks man :)10:45
c2tarunactually I had to enable it from compositor10:46
brainwashah, right10:46
c2tarunbrainwash, there is no synapse in Ubuntu 14.04 :( can you suggest me something.10:53
brainwashc2tarun: you could install it from this PPA https://launchpad.net/~synapse-core/+archive/testing10:55
brainwashsee bug 128883910:55
ubottubug 1288839 in Synapse "synapse package missing in 14.04 Trusty Tahr" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128883910:55
c2tarunohhh... so do you installed it from testing repo? is it working fine?10:56
brainwashI did not, but people report that it's working fine10:56
brainwashI guess that the new whiskermenu search and xfce4-appfinder (alt+f2) do not fit your needs, right?10:57
NallemanHi, I have found out that sometimes when I try ty wake my computer up from suspend mode the screen is all black after login. Is this a common problem? Fix?10:57
brainwashNalleman: yes, it's a known issue10:58
brainwashbug 130373610:58
ubottubug 1303736 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Black screen after login from suspend in Xubuntu 14.04" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130373610:58
Nalleman:/ I guess thats good in some way, better than if it was only my computer11:13
brainwashNalleman: you can easily fix it by disabling light-locker or replacing it with xscreensaver11:19
WizardI've disabled locking screen after wake-up and seems it doesn't appear anymore.11:20
_jayi have a problem when installing 14.04 edition11:20
_jayit shows no wallpaper11:20
Wizard:O11:20
_jayand it doesnt installl11:20
p1rohi, i dont know why i cant prevent teamviewer for starting with system11:22
p1roi have disable it on settings "in teamviewer" but still11:22
knomep1ro, check under session and startup in the settings manger11:23
knome*manager11:23
Wizard_jay: dvd or usb install?11:23
WizardCheck iso image checksums and/or do dvd self-check, _jay.11:24
_jayi redownloaded it11:25
WizardCool, verify checksums.11:25
p1roknome, umm where the settings manager should be ?11:36
knomep1ro, in the main menu. if you are using whiskermenu, it's one of the three buttons at the bottom of the menu11:36
p1rowhisker menu? im suing what is default or comex with lxde11:38
knomethen ask #lubuntu - this is not the lubuntu channel11:38
p1roohh my bad sorry11:38
starratsI recently added, today that is, icons to my desktop, like Firefox, Thunderbird and a few others but when I double click on them I get 'Untrusted application launcher' what's that all about, I set it up via xubuntu's instructions?12:30
brainwashstarrats: maybe you need to mark the launcher as executable12:49
pascal_dher_hi. I'm trying to get ubuntu 13.10 minimal install with xfce to run a command before going to sleep.13:27
pascal_dher_Can anyone tell me how to get ether xfce-power-manager or logind to run a command before going to sleep? or a third way13:28
pascal_dher_going to sleep = suspend.13:31
brainwashpascal_dher_: use pm-utils to run a custom script on suspend, usually you need to place it in /etc/pm/sleep.d/13:32
brainwashmake sure the script is marked as executable13:33
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brainwashand it will be executed as root13:34
pascal_dher_brainwash: ok. trying that out..13:37
KeyboardNotFoundCan I disable fans in my laptop ?14:01
starratsbrainwash how do I make launcher executable?14:01
brainwashstarrats: open a terminal window and run "chmod +x <file>"14:01
pascal_dher_brainwash: Thanks, it works now with your hook in tandem with logind (apparently, first I set it to ignore, but then nothing happens).14:02
brainwashpascal_dher_: glad you got it sorted14:02
starratsBrainwash <files> = launcher?14:03
brainwashyes, example: chmod +x ~/Desktop/firefox.desktop14:05
starratsSorry I'm confused on it brainwash, please forgive still learning things14:05
starratsah ok14:05
starratsso do that to each icon I have on desktop?14:05
starratsI have 5 icons14:06
brainwashtry it14:07
brainwashif it works for one launcher, then edit the other ones too14:07
brainwashas of now we don't even know for sure that this will do the trick14:08
starratschmod: cannot access ‘/Desktop/firefox.desktop’: No such file or directory14:08
starrats   this was my answer in term14:08
brainwashdid you skip the "~"?14:09
starratsah, yes, lol14:09
brainwashand you have to specify the correct launcher filename14:09
starratsah okay14:09
brainwashfirefox.desktop was just an example14:09
starratsok14:09
starratsgotcha14:09
starratsdone14:17
kingplusplushello guys, i have do users which is A and B. When i log into A i try to switch user so I can access b but i get a "Black Screen of Death" anyone here with an idea to fix this?14:18
starratsit was easy since that little window that said 'Untrusted application launcher' had an 'executable' tab on it, lol!14:19
drcstarrats: Now that you have learned the power of chmod, you could have used thunar.  In this case, click on Desktop in the left panel, CLT-Click on each icon you want to change, right click on any one of them, go to Properties> Permissions, and click the box at the bottom (Allow this file...) :)14:20
starratsah okay cool, thanks drc14:21
drcEasier when doing multiple files/launchers.14:23
pascal_dher_brainwash: only problem is that suspend now takes considerably longer time 15-30 seconds instead of 2 seconds.14:27
brainwashpascal_dher_: what does your script exactly do?14:28
brainwashany script will delay the suspend routine14:28
pascal_dher_just runs a killall  which terminates the application immediatly - I moved it to the resume phase now though and it's still slow.14:29
kingplusplushello guys, i have do users which is A and B. When i log into A i try to switch user so I can access b but i get a "Black Screen of Death" anyone here with an idea to fix this?14:29
pascal_dher_I didn't pm-utils installed before14:29
brainwashpascal_dher_: that's odd14:30
brainwashpascal_dher_: take a look at /var/log/pm-suspend.log14:30
starratsdone and thanks drc!14:30
drcstarrats: thank brainwash. he taught you something, I just added a shortcut.14:31
starratsthought I did, but than k you too brainwash, sorry14:34
starratsmy bad!!14:34
pascal_dher_brainwash: wow - didn't know it does so many things when suspending - anyway my system is quite low on IO due to having root on USB-stick. Suspend worked fine before pm-utils, I just didn't know how to run a hook. Do you know any other way of running a hook than through pm-utils14:37
pascal_dher_?14:37
brainwashpascal_dher_: how do you trigger suspend usually?14:39
brainwashstarrats: glad we could help you :)14:39
starratsand thank you again both of you, the more I learn the better I'll be, lol14:40
drcstarrats: remember to "pay it forward".14:41
starratsnow going to try something that I hope will take away the 'freeze' problem I'm still having, but that has to wait until this afternoon.14:41
starratsyes I have been practicing that idiom14:42
pascal_dher_brainwash: change /etc/systemd/logind.conf to have "HandlePowerKey=suspend"14:42
starratshere and in real life14:42
pascal_dher_brainwash: and then suspend works. There seems to be many systemd hooks but since systemd isn't "really used" by ubuntu I don't know how to handle them.14:43
brainwashpascal_dher_: not sure then14:44
brainwashexactly, ubuntu only uses logind and a simple wrapper for systemd to get it working14:44
pascal_dher_I also tried with the xfce power manager, but I cannot get it to do anything else than shutdown or ask14:44
brainwashdoes "xfce4-session-logout --suspend" work?14:46
pascal_dher_brainwash: yes14:47
brainwashso you could write a simple script which runs "killall xyz; xfce4-session-logout --suspend"14:48
brainwashor any other command which triggers suspend14:49
brainwashand the assign it to the power button via acpi event script14:49
brainwashhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/acpid14:50
brainwashthe package is also named acpid in debian/ubuntu14:50
kingplusplusHow do i get around the problem of switching user in Xubuntu? When i switch from user A to B it works but getting back to A from B i see a black screen which means I have to restart because nothing else works. Please someone should give me advise on how to solve this.14:53
pascal_dher_ brainwash ok. I got something to work with... I'll be back14:54
brainwashkingplusplus: do you run 14.04?14:55
kingplusplusbrainwash:  yes i do14:55
brainwashI assume that the new screen locker app "light-locker" is locking the inactive session14:56
brainwashtry to disable it14:56
brainwashsettings manager > light locker settings14:57
kingplusplusbrainwash: thanks it seems like it fixed it. I have switched a couple of times and didn't have the probs15:07
pascal_dher_brainwash: thanks, I removed pm-utils and installed acpid and configured the powerbutton event to only do my kill command and it works great :-)15:08
brainwashpascal_dher_: that's awesome :)15:08
brainwashkingplusplus: ok :)15:08
kingplusplusbrainwash: i noticed i can't lock screen when system is idle for 10 mins? So i need to manually lock screen right?15:29
sheeris there an easy way to get rid of the stupid bluetooth icon?15:56
sheer(when I have bluetooth disabled)15:56
holsteinsheer: i just removed it from startup15:58
sheerthat's genius, thanks15:59
NallemanHi, my computer goes into suspend mode when I close the lid, I dont want it to do anything. I have choosen accordingly in the power menu and such16:04
brainwashkingplusplus: so, you've configured light-locker to automatically lock the screen after certain amount of time, but it does not work?16:04
brainwashNalleman: take a look at bug 130754516:06
ubottubug 1307545 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Power Manager settings are ignored when closing laptop lid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130754516:06
Nallemanhm, was this a problem in the verson before?16:14
brainwashwhich version before?16:16
Nalleman13.1016:16
brainwashit has been patched in 13.10 some months ago16:17
brainwashand it should be also fixed in 14.0416:17
brainwashbut some people report that the problem is still present16:17
brainwashmaybe due to some configuration mess up16:18
Random832anything i should watch out for upgrading to 14.04?16:35
brainwashRandom832: you should read the release announcement beforehand16:37
brainwashhttp://xubuntu.org/news/14-04-release/16:37
Random832>The panel layout is updated, and now uses Whiskermenu as the default menu - how do i purge my current panel layout to get the new default one?16:39
brainwashxfce related config files are located in ~/.config/xfce416:40
j83hello :)17:11
j83hi all, new user here, installed 14.04 any advice on extra things 2 do?17:20
j83it is working great on my laptop.  i really enjoy it.17:21
holsteinj83: no.. just relax and try and get comfortable with the defaults.. experiement with the live CD or guest account17:21
CuriousTahrHi, it depends on what you want to do with...17:21
j83holstein: ok great17:22
j83CuriousTahr: i pretty much use web, email, vlc.  pretty basic, but all i do17:23
drcj83: I'd look at the panel plugins (mail check, weather, sensors, etc)17:24
j83drc: yeah thanks guys, i will play around17:24
j83:)17:24
CuriousTahrj83: so you already have all what you need ;)17:25
j83lol.... sounds like it right17:25
j83i was jus curious because only been using linux 3month's now17:26
j83i was on mint 16 xfce17:26
j83it only took 2month's before i nuked win8 off HD17:28
skribblezatchaj83: if you dont want your panel on the top, you can put that down on the bottom so that it has that mint feel to it by default.17:28
j83500gb hd all for xubuntu17:28
j83yes i did few things17:28
skribblezatchathe more traditional appearance and feel of a desktop environment. thats what i do since that is what i prefer.17:28
skribblezatchacool j83.17:28
j83right17:28
j83hey anyone use a dock program?17:29
j83or can suggest one?17:29
skribblezatchai used to use docky j83. its a nice dock..but it doesnt have the shutdown buttons on it, for that you want cairo dock, but i think that docky is more attractive.17:29
skribblezatchaso i just use the shutdown buttons in the menu and am ok with that.17:30
j83hey ok, i will google and read up17:30
skribblezatchanow i dont use docky though, i just add desktop icons and panel launchers for the things that i use most and am good to go.17:30
skribblezatchacool.17:30
j83oh ok17:30
skribblezatchayeah, thats they best thing to do, or just use synaptic to install it and check it out and if you dont like it use synaptic to also remove it.17:31
skribblezatchayeppers.17:31
j83well right on guys good 2 see nice ppl here, i will play around and if i have a question or problem i will be back17:32
j83ty all and hagd17:32
j83gonna go get lunch :)17:32
skribblezatchahave fun j83.17:33
xubuntu991anyone here?17:39
xubuntu991anyone here?17:42
xubuntu991just installed xubuntu 14.04 and no modules are loaded after restart. suggestions17:46
xubuntu991?17:46
holsteinxubuntu991: not likely17:49
holsteinxubuntu991: the kernel is modular, so there are lots of modules that are trying to provide hardware support for you.. what is not working for you specifically?17:50
xubuntu991so lsmod shows nothing18:06
xubuntu991specifically, i log in and get a frozen cursor, the wrong resolution, no networking, etc.18:07
xubuntu991however, using the live usb worked perfectly18:09
xubuntu991holstein: you stil here?18:10
holsteinxubuntu991: yes18:11
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xubuntu991anyone have any ideas if lsmod shows nothing?18:52
holsteinxubuntu991: i would take them one at a time..18:52
holstein!nomodeset18:52
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter18:52
holsteinthen, move on to a proprietary graphics driver if needed. the wifi driver..18:52
holstein!wifi18:52
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs18:52
holsteinif its broadcom or whatever18:52
holsteinkeeing in mind, that i was not promised linux support, so knowing that diligent troubleshooting will be necessary18:53
holsteinthe differences in the live cd and the installed system is something to look at as well. the most important of which is the hard drive.. testing the hard drive would be a nice step.. i like gsmartcontrol18:56
holsteinalso, recieving updates during the installation can make the installed OS differ from the live OS18:56
xubuntu991holstein: thanks, good places to start18:59
Demontager Is any good dark Xubuntu theme exists ? I want to safe battery power while out of AC19:17
LazarThat wont save your battery very much19:18
LazarYou can use tlp to set powersaving options19:18
LazarI think its tlp, maybe tpl :D google that pls :D19:19
LazarI dont have battery problems so dont know exact name, but its very good tool19:19
Demontager<Lazar> already using TLP19:19
Aritheanieturn off wifi and use ethernet where possible19:19
Aritheaniescreen brightness to minimum19:20
Demontagerdarker theme will keep monitor darker so it will consume less power obviously19:20
Demontagersimple powertop test shows less power consumption on dark environment19:21
LazarNot true dude, if its on same brightness level then nothing will change19:22
LazarAnyhow you hafe xfce themes on deviantart19:22
Demontager13.1 Watt draw on light Xchat window and 12.4 draw on black terminal window19:27
holsteinDemontager: http://xfce-look.org/ install what you like.. if "13.1 watt" refers to "wattOS 13.10", its not supported here19:30
holsteinDemontager: in 12.04 or any version, in the terminal, you can set the colors as you want19:30
dreamonHow can I reset xubuntu settings. by starting xubuntu with Prime / nvidia im stucked in a blackscreen. But system is still running .. later I can here skype connecting19:46
Random832when I asked if there was anything to watch out for upgrading to 14.0420:24
Random832I kind of expected "might make my system unbootable" to make the goddamn list20:24
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NorthSideman i got to fight to read files threw my network in this xubuntu 14.0422:44
NorthSideseems to have a very hard time trying to mount the drives22:47
NorthSidei have to close windows and reopen them22:48
ZydeHi guys. I am a new Xubuntu user, and I am having some difficulties installing Wi-Fi drivers. I posted a thread on reddit (here: http://www.reddit.com/r/xubuntu/comments/24lpkf/need_help_installing_wifi_drivers/). Anyone know whats up?22:56
angelo_ciao a tutti23:06
angelo_avrei un problema con xbuntu23:06
angelo_buona notte23:07
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NorthSideanyone having problems trying to access network drivers/folders23:19
NorthSidexubuntu 14.0423:19
j83what's up all23:19
j83:)23:19
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