[00:14] :( [00:14] my computer is all crashing again [00:48] Hi, dark theme? how to get menu background etc. in a more plesant color? [00:51] Use MediterraneanDarkest? [00:52] Unit193, Is it a download? [00:52] Yes. [00:53] So, then the question where to download themes :) [00:53] and how to install [00:54] Nalleman, xfce-look.org [00:55] larrypg, thanks! [01:07] Where to save the theme files, or how to find where? [01:08] Nalleman: The easiest place is ~/.themes, you may have to create it. [01:09] drc, ok. then the theme manager have a look there and check what I have customised? [01:10] I've never used the theme manager, but I would suspect so. [01:10] drc, how do you choose your theme then? [01:11] Settings>Appearence>Style...but I just use ochosi's default greybird [01:12] Depending on what you're using, you may have to use Settings>Window Manager>Style also [01:15] drc, ok. that whas what I thought of as "theme manager" :) [01:16] Oh OK, sorry then. [01:17] np, my enlish is a bit fussy so sometimes I cant express myself [01:19] Your English is fine, names especially can be tricky, I've seen two people trying to help/het help go crazy simply because one person called it X and the other Y and neither knew what the other was talking about :) [01:22] Nalleman, have you tried...http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=149647 ? [01:23] Nalleman, that has to do with xfce-theme manager [01:24] hehe :) Well, now the problem is that the theme does not show up in "Settings>Appearence>Style" even though I put them in .themes directory [01:24] larrypg, no, will have a look [01:26] maybe log off/ log on will do? [01:27] I will have a try, brb [01:29] how do i customize my xubunty 14.04 desktop? any goo ideas? [01:31] nope, I can't load the extracted themes. [01:31] Nalleman: ok, the theme is in ~/.themes? [01:33] Nalleman, just another place to look...http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/install_new_themes [01:34] drc. well. sorry, i found that they where actually in the "window manager", talking about x and y :) [01:35] :) [02:25] So the device I'm using is Logitech K400r - Hold down the blue funtion key and the left trackpad key simultaneously. - No software required, OS is irrelevant. [02:26] Same again to turn tap to click back on [02:29] chrispage1980: it works "out of the box" for me [02:39] Xubuntu rocks my socks [04:50] i wanted to ask why texworks isn't included by default [04:50] it's so much more wonderful and powerful than libreoffice [05:05] neither libreoffice is incluided, but you can install both if you wish can't you¿ [06:20] anyone here and can help me to rescue a bit of my windows files [06:20] xubntu have deletet all and installt only xubuntu [06:21] bt i selectet to install xubuntu with windows [06:29] i did the upgrade on this and it just kept freezeing in like every 10 minutes after bootup [06:29] so i reinstalled 13.10 [06:29] just fine for days now [06:31] \sure would have liked to have had the latest LTS though [06:31] sure* === morph is now known as 14WACK0Y8 [09:07] Hii all, is here some alive? :P Q: I've changed my sound driver to alsa. Everything works but notify bar by changed volume dissapears... any ideas? [09:23] z4nD4R is that the one up by the clock that is missing? [09:24] damn he quit alreadt [09:36] hi, i cant seem to find a search tool that is similar to Unity search in Xubuntu. Like when searching for images it just shows a black icon instead of the images. Why is xubuntu so limited when it comes to searching for stuff on he pc ? [09:39] Golynx are you on xubuntu 14.04? [09:39] Are you searching for what's on xubuntu or? [09:40] starrats: no , i'm still on 12.04 lts . I will get a new dvd with xubuntu 14.04 lts on it in this month [09:40] ah okay [09:41] no i want a tool like unity search in xubuntu [09:41] 14.04 uses the whisker menu at the top of the left hand corner for finding everything in xubuntu. [09:42] like it shows previews of images and videos in search results [09:42] the icon is thxubuntu mouse profile [09:42] ah okay not familiar with that, sorry [09:43] okay, so you guys made a default search tool for 14.04 in xubuntu [09:43] i dont like catfish [09:44] I don't like catfish either, lol [09:44] a great thing to have will be to have a search input bar in thunar , to help search for files and folders easily [09:45] starrats: the whisker menu only search for applications, not files :( [09:45] most of the nicks I see helping folks are not currently on, don't know why [09:46] I know Spike29, thought that is what he was looking for [09:47] ok :) [09:47] Golynx: you could use synapse ( https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/synapse/ ) [09:47] the whisker thing is not what i wanted. Looks like catfish will have to stay for a while [09:50] Spike29: ty , but i always keep Zeitgeist disabled. I will try that though [09:51] what do you dislike of the whisker menu? [09:52] and what do you dislike of catfish? [09:53] maybe they are not so "bells and whistles" as Unity is, but they do the job... [09:53] amigamagic: ofc, and I use both of them [09:54] but some people prefer one tool to search apps and files, like synapse or the Unity dash [09:55] I should not have said "I don't like catfish either, lol' just not have used it enough to appreciate it, :) [09:55] you have to consider that Unity is a big and heavy thing, so Ubuntu is much slower on old pc. Anyway, who likes Unity, should use Ubuntu, not Xubuntu. [09:56] this is true amigamagic [09:57] synapse just gives one result lol [09:57] and many people (like me) don't like the very poor customizability of the UI in Unity or Gnome3 [09:59] (for example, I hate the vertical taskbar on the left of the screen, but you cannot change its position... You have to accept is as the designer liked.) [09:59] catfish is an okay search tool. When used as custom action in Thunar it works well. [10:00] so, what would make it a great search tool? [10:01] I'm the developer, so I'm always looking for feedback :) [10:01] anyway I suggest to continue this topic on the xubuntu-offtopic channel, before comes knome with thunders and lighning :D [10:02] bluesabre: for it to be a great search tool i would like the results of the images previews to show the images instead of black icons. And having a quick search input bar on the Thunar header will make it perfect. [10:03] oh, there is a preview mode now that displays the images [10:03] the button to the left of the menu button [10:04] bluesabre: i mean the catfish search results [10:05] Golynx: you're using 12.04, that's why you don't have it yet :p [10:05] ah [10:05] look forward to http://imagebin.org/308750 [10:05] Spike29: which version of catfish have that [10:05] :) [10:05] 1.0 [10:06] older versions also have thumbnails when started as "catfish --thumbnails" [10:06] oh , thank goodness :) [10:07] ty guys this will work perfect [10:09] :) good to hear [10:40] I don't remember XFCE look this http://imagebin.org/308755 UGLY, what did I miss? [10:41] c2tarun: select a proper theme via settings manager > appearance [10:42] brainwash, yeah I changed it, after I took the screenshot, but why is everything so opaque? I can't make any of my panels transparent? [10:43] right click on the panel and configure it :) [10:43] Also all the buttons are so Squared :P I remember there was slight curve at the corners. [10:43] brainwash, I tried its not highlighted? [10:43] brainwash, I tried its not highlighted! [10:44] see http://images.maketecheasier.com/2013/08/xfce-new-panel-alpha-configuration.png [10:45] the button shape is defined by the gtk theme [10:45] brainwash, thanks man :) [10:46] actually I had to enable it from compositor [10:46] ah, right [10:53] brainwash, there is no synapse in Ubuntu 14.04 :( can you suggest me something. [10:55] c2tarun: you could install it from this PPA https://launchpad.net/~synapse-core/+archive/testing [10:55] see bug 1288839 [10:55] bug 1288839 in Synapse "synapse package missing in 14.04 Trusty Tahr" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1288839 [10:56] ohhh... so do you installed it from testing repo? is it working fine? [10:56] I did not, but people report that it's working fine [10:57] I guess that the new whiskermenu search and xfce4-appfinder (alt+f2) do not fit your needs, right? [10:57] Hi, I have found out that sometimes when I try ty wake my computer up from suspend mode the screen is all black after login. Is this a common problem? Fix? [10:58] Nalleman: yes, it's a known issue [10:58] bug 1303736 [10:58] bug 1303736 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Black screen after login from suspend in Xubuntu 14.04" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1303736 [11:13] :/ I guess thats good in some way, better than if it was only my computer [11:19] Nalleman: you can easily fix it by disabling light-locker or replacing it with xscreensaver [11:20] I've disabled locking screen after wake-up and seems it doesn't appear anymore. [11:20] <_jay> i have a problem when installing 14.04 edition [11:20] <_jay> it shows no wallpaper [11:20] :O [11:20] <_jay> and it doesnt installl [11:22] hi, i dont know why i cant prevent teamviewer for starting with system [11:22] i have disable it on settings "in teamviewer" but still [11:23] p1ro, check under session and startup in the settings manger [11:23] *manager [11:23] _jay: dvd or usb install? [11:24] Check iso image checksums and/or do dvd self-check, _jay. [11:25] <_jay> i redownloaded it [11:25] Cool, verify checksums. [11:36] knome, umm where the settings manager should be ? [11:36] p1ro, in the main menu. if you are using whiskermenu, it's one of the three buttons at the bottom of the menu [11:38] whisker menu? im suing what is default or comex with lxde [11:38] then ask #lubuntu - this is not the lubuntu channel [11:38] ohh my bad sorry [12:30] I recently added, today that is, icons to my desktop, like Firefox, Thunderbird and a few others but when I double click on them I get 'Untrusted application launcher' what's that all about, I set it up via xubuntu's instructions? [12:49] starrats: maybe you need to mark the launcher as executable [13:27] hi. I'm trying to get ubuntu 13.10 minimal install with xfce to run a command before going to sleep. [13:28] Can anyone tell me how to get ether xfce-power-manager or logind to run a command before going to sleep? or a third way [13:31] going to sleep = suspend. [13:32] pascal_dher_: use pm-utils to run a custom script on suspend, usually you need to place it in /etc/pm/sleep.d/ [13:33] make sure the script is marked as executable === koegs_ is now known as koegs [13:34] and it will be executed as root [13:37] brainwash: ok. trying that out.. [14:01] Can I disable fans in my laptop ? [14:01] brainwash how do I make launcher executable? [14:01] starrats: open a terminal window and run "chmod +x " [14:02] brainwash: Thanks, it works now with your hook in tandem with logind (apparently, first I set it to ignore, but then nothing happens). [14:02] pascal_dher_: glad you got it sorted [14:03] Brainwash = launcher? [14:05] yes, example: chmod +x ~/Desktop/firefox.desktop [14:05] Sorry I'm confused on it brainwash, please forgive still learning things [14:05] ah ok [14:05] so do that to each icon I have on desktop? [14:06] I have 5 icons [14:07] try it [14:07] if it works for one launcher, then edit the other ones too [14:08] as of now we don't even know for sure that this will do the trick [14:08] chmod: cannot access ‘/Desktop/firefox.desktop’: No such file or directory [14:08] this was my answer in term [14:09] did you skip the "~"? [14:09] ah, yes, lol [14:09] and you have to specify the correct launcher filename [14:09] ah okay [14:09] firefox.desktop was just an example [14:09] ok [14:09] gotcha [14:17] done [14:18] hello guys, i have do users which is A and B. When i log into A i try to switch user so I can access b but i get a "Black Screen of Death" anyone here with an idea to fix this? [14:19] it was easy since that little window that said 'Untrusted application launcher' had an 'executable' tab on it, lol! [14:20] starrats: Now that you have learned the power of chmod, you could have used thunar. In this case, click on Desktop in the left panel, CLT-Click on each icon you want to change, right click on any one of them, go to Properties> Permissions, and click the box at the bottom (Allow this file...) :) [14:21] ah okay cool, thanks drc [14:23] Easier when doing multiple files/launchers. [14:27] brainwash: only problem is that suspend now takes considerably longer time 15-30 seconds instead of 2 seconds. [14:28] pascal_dher_: what does your script exactly do? [14:28] any script will delay the suspend routine [14:29] just runs a killall which terminates the application immediatly - I moved it to the resume phase now though and it's still slow. [14:29] hello guys, i have do users which is A and B. When i log into A i try to switch user so I can access b but i get a "Black Screen of Death" anyone here with an idea to fix this? [14:29] I didn't pm-utils installed before [14:30] pascal_dher_: that's odd [14:30] pascal_dher_: take a look at /var/log/pm-suspend.log [14:30] done and thanks drc! [14:31] starrats: thank brainwash. he taught you something, I just added a shortcut. [14:34] thought I did, but than k you too brainwash, sorry [14:34] my bad!! [14:37] brainwash: wow - didn't know it does so many things when suspending - anyway my system is quite low on IO due to having root on USB-stick. Suspend worked fine before pm-utils, I just didn't know how to run a hook. Do you know any other way of running a hook than through pm-utils [14:37] ? [14:39] pascal_dher_: how do you trigger suspend usually? [14:39] starrats: glad we could help you :) [14:40] and thank you again both of you, the more I learn the better I'll be, lol [14:41] starrats: remember to "pay it forward". [14:41] now going to try something that I hope will take away the 'freeze' problem I'm still having, but that has to wait until this afternoon. [14:42] yes I have been practicing that idiom [14:42] brainwash: change /etc/systemd/logind.conf to have "HandlePowerKey=suspend" [14:42] here and in real life [14:43] brainwash: and then suspend works. There seems to be many systemd hooks but since systemd isn't "really used" by ubuntu I don't know how to handle them. [14:44] pascal_dher_: not sure then [14:44] exactly, ubuntu only uses logind and a simple wrapper for systemd to get it working [14:44] I also tried with the xfce power manager, but I cannot get it to do anything else than shutdown or ask [14:46] does "xfce4-session-logout --suspend" work? [14:47] brainwash: yes [14:48] so you could write a simple script which runs "killall xyz; xfce4-session-logout --suspend" [14:49] or any other command which triggers suspend [14:49] and the assign it to the power button via acpi event script [14:50] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/acpid [14:50] the package is also named acpid in debian/ubuntu [14:53] How do i get around the problem of switching user in Xubuntu? When i switch from user A to B it works but getting back to A from B i see a black screen which means I have to restart because nothing else works. Please someone should give me advise on how to solve this. [14:54] brainwash ok. I got something to work with... I'll be back [14:55] kingplusplus: do you run 14.04? [14:55] brainwash: yes i do [14:56] I assume that the new screen locker app "light-locker" is locking the inactive session [14:56] try to disable it [14:57] settings manager > light locker settings [15:07] brainwash: thanks it seems like it fixed it. I have switched a couple of times and didn't have the probs [15:08] brainwash: thanks, I removed pm-utils and installed acpid and configured the powerbutton event to only do my kill command and it works great :-) [15:08] pascal_dher_: that's awesome :) [15:08] kingplusplus: ok :) [15:29] brainwash: i noticed i can't lock screen when system is idle for 10 mins? So i need to manually lock screen right? [15:56] is there an easy way to get rid of the stupid bluetooth icon? [15:56] (when I have bluetooth disabled) [15:58] sheer: i just removed it from startup [15:59] that's genius, thanks [16:04] Hi, my computer goes into suspend mode when I close the lid, I dont want it to do anything. I have choosen accordingly in the power menu and such [16:04] kingplusplus: so, you've configured light-locker to automatically lock the screen after certain amount of time, but it does not work? [16:06] Nalleman: take a look at bug 1307545 [16:06] bug 1307545 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Power Manager settings are ignored when closing laptop lid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1307545 [16:14] hm, was this a problem in the verson before? [16:16] which version before? [16:16] 13.10 [16:17] it has been patched in 13.10 some months ago [16:17] and it should be also fixed in 14.04 [16:17] but some people report that the problem is still present [16:18] maybe due to some configuration mess up [16:35] anything i should watch out for upgrading to 14.04? [16:37] Random832: you should read the release announcement beforehand [16:37] http://xubuntu.org/news/14-04-release/ [16:39] >The panel layout is updated, and now uses Whiskermenu as the default menu - how do i purge my current panel layout to get the new default one? [16:40] xfce related config files are located in ~/.config/xfce4 [17:11] hello :) [17:20] hi all, new user here, installed 14.04 any advice on extra things 2 do? [17:21] it is working great on my laptop. i really enjoy it. [17:21] j83: no.. just relax and try and get comfortable with the defaults.. experiement with the live CD or guest account [17:21] Hi, it depends on what you want to do with... [17:22] holstein: ok great [17:23] CuriousTahr: i pretty much use web, email, vlc. pretty basic, but all i do [17:24] j83: I'd look at the panel plugins (mail check, weather, sensors, etc) [17:24] drc: yeah thanks guys, i will play around [17:24] :) [17:25] j83: so you already have all what you need ;) [17:25] lol.... sounds like it right [17:26] i was jus curious because only been using linux 3month's now [17:26] i was on mint 16 xfce [17:28] it only took 2month's before i nuked win8 off HD [17:28] j83: if you dont want your panel on the top, you can put that down on the bottom so that it has that mint feel to it by default. [17:28] 500gb hd all for xubuntu [17:28] yes i did few things [17:28] the more traditional appearance and feel of a desktop environment. thats what i do since that is what i prefer. [17:28] cool j83. [17:28] right [17:29] hey anyone use a dock program? [17:29] or can suggest one? [17:29] i used to use docky j83. its a nice dock..but it doesnt have the shutdown buttons on it, for that you want cairo dock, but i think that docky is more attractive. [17:30] so i just use the shutdown buttons in the menu and am ok with that. [17:30] hey ok, i will google and read up [17:30] now i dont use docky though, i just add desktop icons and panel launchers for the things that i use most and am good to go. [17:30] cool. [17:30] oh ok [17:31] yeah, thats they best thing to do, or just use synaptic to install it and check it out and if you dont like it use synaptic to also remove it. [17:31] yeppers. [17:32] well right on guys good 2 see nice ppl here, i will play around and if i have a question or problem i will be back [17:32] ty all and hagd [17:32] gonna go get lunch :) [17:33] have fun j83. [17:39] anyone here? [17:42] anyone here? [17:46] just installed xubuntu 14.04 and no modules are loaded after restart. suggestions [17:46] ? [17:49] xubuntu991: not likely [17:50] xubuntu991: the kernel is modular, so there are lots of modules that are trying to provide hardware support for you.. what is not working for you specifically? [18:06] so lsmod shows nothing [18:07] specifically, i log in and get a frozen cursor, the wrong resolution, no networking, etc. [18:09] however, using the live usb worked perfectly [18:10] holstein: you stil here? [18:11] xubuntu991: yes === Luy1n is now known as Luyin [18:52] anyone have any ideas if lsmod shows nothing? [18:52] xubuntu991: i would take them one at a time.. [18:52] !nomodeset [18:52] A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [18:52] then, move on to a proprietary graphics driver if needed. the wifi driver.. [18:52] !wifi [18:52] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [18:52] if its broadcom or whatever [18:53] keeing in mind, that i was not promised linux support, so knowing that diligent troubleshooting will be necessary [18:56] the differences in the live cd and the installed system is something to look at as well. the most important of which is the hard drive.. testing the hard drive would be a nice step.. i like gsmartcontrol [18:56] also, recieving updates during the installation can make the installed OS differ from the live OS [18:59] holstein: thanks, good places to start [19:17] Is any good dark Xubuntu theme exists ? I want to safe battery power while out of AC [19:18] That wont save your battery very much [19:18] You can use tlp to set powersaving options [19:19] I think its tlp, maybe tpl :D google that pls :D [19:19] I dont have battery problems so dont know exact name, but its very good tool [19:19] already using TLP [19:19] turn off wifi and use ethernet where possible [19:20] screen brightness to minimum [19:20] darker theme will keep monitor darker so it will consume less power obviously [19:21] simple powertop test shows less power consumption on dark environment [19:22] Not true dude, if its on same brightness level then nothing will change [19:22] Anyhow you hafe xfce themes on deviantart [19:27] 13.1 Watt draw on light Xchat window and 12.4 draw on black terminal window [19:30] Demontager: http://xfce-look.org/ install what you like.. if "13.1 watt" refers to "wattOS 13.10", its not supported here [19:30] Demontager: in 12.04 or any version, in the terminal, you can set the colors as you want [19:46] How can I reset xubuntu settings. by starting xubuntu with Prime / nvidia im stucked in a blackscreen. But system is still running .. later I can here skype connecting [20:24] when I asked if there was anything to watch out for upgrading to 14.04 [20:24] I kind of expected "might make my system unbootable" to make the goddamn list === hobgoblin is now known as elfy === KeyboardNotFound is now known as \n === \n is now known as \t === \t is now known as \t\n === \t\n is now known as \n\i\c\k [22:44] man i got to fight to read files threw my network in this xubuntu 14.04 [22:47] seems to have a very hard time trying to mount the drives [22:48] i have to close windows and reopen them [22:56] Hi guys. I am a new Xubuntu user, and I am having some difficulties installing Wi-Fi drivers. I posted a thread on reddit (here: http://www.reddit.com/r/xubuntu/comments/24lpkf/need_help_installing_wifi_drivers/). Anyone know whats up? [23:06] ciao a tutti [23:06] avrei un problema con xbuntu [23:07] buona notte === \n\i\c\k is now known as KeyboardNotFound [23:19] anyone having problems trying to access network drivers/folders [23:19] xubuntu 14.04 [23:19] what's up all [23:19] :) === mtrd is now known as EugeneBandit