[08:11] <j_f-f> Moin. Please set the Importance of Bug #1315762 to Wishlist
[08:57] <igorssh> when i plug in my phone on android, i'm getting Unable to mount SAMSUNG_Android Unable to open MTP device '[usb:005,002]'
[08:57] <igorssh> shat could be wrong?
[09:26] <j_f-f> igorssh: You must first  -> Setup-> More Setup-> USB connection->Connect memory with pc
[09:27] <j_f-f> Please set the Importance of Bug #1315776 to Wishlist
[09:37] <igorssh> j_f-f: where do i find this setup?
[10:39] <sdfsd> Hi, I have a feeling that this is a bug in Ubuntu 14. Could anyone help me out. Thanks a lot
[10:39] <sdfsd> http://askubuntu.com/questions/459654/ubuntu-14-04-drivers-for-broadcom-bcm43142
[11:15] <sdsdf> Hi could anyone help me with this ? askubuntu.com/questions/459654/ubuntu-14-04-drivers-for-broadcom-bcm43142 ? I am desparately stuck with this for the past 1 week. Please ?
[13:09] <sdsdf> What is meant by an Exec Format Error ?
[13:11] <penguin42> what gave you that?
[17:07] <hggdh> /bans
[17:08] <tsimpson> !test
[21:11] <amigamagic> hi, is this the right channel to report a package with a bug fixed in svn but not updated yet in ubuntu repositories?
[21:26] <amigamagic> please, could someone triage this bug: http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13596 ?
[21:26] <teward> amigamagic: is there an ubuntu bug for it
[21:27] <teward> rather than an upstream bug
[21:27] <teward> (and by "upstream" we mean at the bug tracker of the actual program/project)
[21:28] <amigamagic> teward, "is there an ubuntu bug for it" was a question?
[21:28] <teward> correct
[21:28] <teward> if the answer is no then there's nothing for us to triage
[21:29] <amigamagic> ok, now I understand what you mean
[21:29] <teward> amigamagic: for us to "triage" a bug, the bug must: (a) exist and be filed against launchpad. (b) be confirmed either by the triager or multiple other people.  (c) be ready for a developer in Ubuntu (for packages in Main), or be ready for the community (in Universe) to work on it.
[21:30] <teward> really (a) and (c) are the most critical
[21:30] <teward> b is interesting, because I get bugs on my radar which aren't marked 'confirmed' but i eventually test and confirm it exists
[21:30] <teward> given that someone's stated steps to reproduce the bug
[21:30] <teward> (aka a 'test case')
[21:33] <amigamagic> it's a very annoying (to me, at least) bug for the program abiword, and it has been fixed from february on the upstream. The steps to reproduce it are very simple: the CTRL-SHIFT-CURSOR_KEY to select text doesn't work anymore in the current version in ubuntu repositories. It worked in previous versions.
[21:34] <teward> amigamagic: you'll have to follow the Stable Release Update procedures that rbasak linked you
[21:34] <amigamagic> if you want, I could create the bug report on launchpad
[21:34] <teward> but without a bug filed on this on Launchpad, there's nothing to apply to the SRU
[21:34] <teward> yes, you should do that, if you want an SRU to fix these kinds of things
[21:34] <teward> amigamagic: which version of Ubuntu is affected by this
[21:35] <amigamagic> 14.04
[21:35] <teward> !info abiword trusty
[21:35] <teward> boo
[21:35] <teward> laggy you are
[21:35] <amigamagic> exactly that
[21:35] <teward> oooo it's in universe
[21:36] <teward> you can file a bug report but ultimately it's up to the community to prepare debdiffs/patches for it
[21:36] <teward> (meaning that even if the bug is "triaged" it'll be "fixed soon (tm)"
[21:36] <teward> but there's no timeline for fixing, really)
[21:37] <amigamagic> but the bug is already fixed from more than 2 months in the svn of the original package mantainer
[21:37] <amigamagic> and there is a patch fix in that bug report too
[21:37] <teward> but where is the original package maintainer, in Debian?
[21:37] <teward> mainly the point stands that in Ubuntu someone in the community has to do the bug triage, and create the debdiff and such, and while I could, i'm in the middle of working on nginx
[21:38] <teward> (it'd still need sponsored to get uploaded to the repos though)
[21:38] <teward> note to self: 50 Ubuntu VMs is confusing, keep only a few.
[21:38]  * teward grumbles
[21:38] <brainwash> I can prepare the branch (already did for 3.0.0-4ubuntu1)
[21:39] <brainwash> we had to include patches from stable to fix 2 major issues
[21:39] <teward> less work for me ^.^
[21:39]  * teward goes back to stabbing nginx's build rules
[21:40] <amigamagic> hi brainwash
[21:40] <brainwash> hey amigamagic
[21:40] <brainwash> but it's "only" abiword after all, not many people care about it anymore
[21:40] <brainwash> especially since ubuntu always ships a somewhat broken version of it :)
[21:41] <amigamagic> yes brainwash I know. I think I should uninstall it after all.
[21:41] <amigamagic> Being that I was on a virtual machine, I wanted to waste less space for a word processing program.
[21:41] <brainwash> but we can fix this issue, just need the launchpad report to get started
[21:42] <amigamagic> ok I will file that
[21:42] <teward> brainwash: if you don't have bugcontrol i can mark it triaged, so long as there's enough details for it to be worked on by someone :)
[21:42] <teward> otherwise enjoy
[21:42] <brainwash> for 14.10 I expect that a new stable release will be ready
[21:43] <brainwash> no bugcontrol yet, despite having over 3500 karma from bug report activities :D
[21:43] <teward> lol
[21:43] <teward> you'd have to apply for bugcontrol status
[21:44] <brainwash> I know
[21:44] <teward> i have bugcontrol status, i'll set it triaged for ya :)
[21:44] <teward> i have to go stab a few other bugs anyways
[21:44] <amigamagic> is this the page where I should file the report? https://launchpad.net/abiword
[21:44] <brainwash> but I usually bother other people to triage reports or change the status
[21:44] <teward> amigamagic: if you have a 14.04 box it's easier to do `ubuntu-bug abiword`
[21:44] <teward> from the command line or the dash
[21:44] <brainwash> which is rarely the case
[21:44] <teward> rather than file it manually by hand
[21:45] <teward> brainwash: yeah, for 'nginx' it's usually "Check with teward, he is usually watching"
[21:45] <teward> but before that i just bothered here :)
[21:45] <amigamagic> teward, I'm on a xubuntu vm... it's the same thing?
[21:45] <teward> amigamagic: yeah, as long as it's xubuntu 14.04
[21:45] <amigamagic> yes
[21:56] <amigamagic> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abiword/+bug/1315949
[22:00] <teward> that patch needs DEP3 tags
[22:00]  * teward downloads and modifies accordingly
[22:02] <teward> FYI the patch doesn't apply cleanly
[22:02] <teward> it may need tweaked
[22:11] <amigamagic> I will check if it's applied in that way in the svn main commit
[22:12] <teward> it's probably got something to do with quilt
[22:12] <teward> but i'm pretty sure brainwash is familiar with these things
[22:18] <amigamagic> abiword devs have applied that patch to their stable branch: http://svn.abisource.com/abiword/branches/ABI-3-0-0-STABLE/src/af/ev/gtk/ev_UnixKeyboard.cpp
[22:19] <teward> amigamagic: i meant that the patch itself doesn't cleanly apply to Quilt
[22:19] <teward> s/to Quilt/via Quilt/
[22:19] <teward> which is the tool for debian package patch management
[22:19] <teward> i can manually create the patch if i have to and then still quote Origin
[22:19] <teward> but meh
[22:20]  * teward has other things to do
[22:20] <amigamagic> ah sorry, I don't know that tool
[22:23] <teward> no probledm
[22:23]  * teward is bored and is already making the patch :P
[22:25] <amigamagic> teward, thanks :)
[23:25] <amigamagic> what's a cherry-pick ?
[23:27] <jtaylor> selecting a patch from a branch to apply to an older version
[23:27] <jtaylor> typically backporting bugfixes from newer versions/development version to older versions
[23:33] <teward> ^
[23:33] <teward> jtaylor: -4ubuntu1 becomes what with a typical sru, -4ubuntu2 or -4ubuntu1.1 ?
[23:33] <teward> the security team version document says .1
[23:33] <jtaylor> 1.1
[23:33] <teward> okay, that's what i thought
[23:33] <jtaylor> it depends on the versions in newer releases
[23:33] <teward> I've screwed that up twice before though
[23:34] <teward> jtaylor: what about abiword
[23:34] <jtaylor> it can also be 1.12.04.1
[23:34] <teward> which is what i'm asking about (because amigamagic's bug)
[23:34] <jtaylor> for precise
[23:34] <teward> it's -4ubuntu1 in Trusty
[23:34] <jtaylor> -4ubuntu1.1 is ok there
[23:35] <jtaylor> a more qualified version would be required if utopic were released already
[23:35] <teward> but it's not :)
[23:35] <jtaylor> as trusty and utopic have the same version
[23:35] <jtaylor> as utopic is devel its next ersion will be ubuntu2 so 1.1 is ok
[23:38] <teward> right
[23:39] <teward> or it may have an even higher version if it's updated in Debian before release, right, jtaylor?
[23:39] <teward> amigamagic: also, unrelated FYI to what jtaylor and I are discussing, debdiff uploaded for consideration.  :P  (bzr still doesn't want to work right for me)
[23:40] <jtaylor> yes debian always updates the first number
[23:40] <jtaylor> -2 in this case
[23:41] <teward> brainwash: in the off chance you're still around, there's a debdiff attached to that bug
[23:41]  * teward yawns
[23:42] <teward> i gotta stop stabbing nginx source code, it's giving me a headache
[23:45] <amigamagic> thanks for the info guys... What's a debdiff?
[23:45] <amigamagic> a diff to apply to a deb package?
[23:45] <teward> amigamagic: it's basically a diff for a deb package
[23:45] <teward> amigamagic: FYI, you need to fill out the SRU template.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#SRU_Bug_Template
[23:46] <teward> and put it in the description
[23:46] <teward> well, someone does
[23:46]  * teward won't :P
[23:47] <amigamagic> you mean on the description of the bug on launchpad?
[23:48] <teward> correct
[23:49] <teward> impact of the bug, a test case for reproduction, potential of regression, and other info
[23:49] <amigamagic> ok I will try...
[23:49] <teward> if you're unsure of the regression potential we can poke around and guesstimate, but judging as this is an upstream patch, it's probably got very low regression potential
[23:50] <teward> s/judging as/judging on the fact that/
[23:50] <amigamagic> I agree
[23:52] <teward> (note: it's not normal for me to venture outside of the nginx package when it comes to debdiffs.  But i was bored :P)
[23:53] <teward> jtaylor: what's the consideration for -4ubuntu1.1 vs. -4ubuntu2 or something?  whether the version bump, even a small one, will conflict with $nextrelease ?
[23:53] <teward> (where $nextrelease is whatever the next subsequent release is in the series of Ubuntu releases)
[23:55] <jtaylor> you always need an upgrade path to the next release
[23:55] <jtaylor> so the version in the next release must be higher