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Krenairokay so I should run a command to finish the upgrade in the mounted drive, but chrooted so it thinks it runs on the drive00:00
daftykinscorrect00:00
Krenairdaftykins, tried to install 'dchroot' as the page suggests, it can't be located00:03
daftykinsshouldn't be necessary, just "sudo mkdir /mnt/chroot" then "sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda5 /mnt/chroot"00:04
daftykinsthen "sudo mount -o bind /proc /mnt/chroot/proc"00:05
Krenairdone00:05
daftykinsthat should be enough, then "chroot /mnt/chroot"00:05
daftykinsnot sure if that needs sudo or not00:05
Krenairok, great00:06
Krenairnow I need to finish the upgrade00:06
daftykinsthen try "sudo apt-get update"00:06
daftykinsto see if it has networking00:06
KrenairI'm root, don't need sudo00:06
Krenairhm, no networking00:06
daftykinsit might just be lacking DNS00:06
daftykinsopen another terminal that's still in the live session - presumably that's online fine?00:07
Krenairyeah, I just logged it into the wifi00:07
daftykinscool00:07
Krenairbut the programs under chroot can't use it00:07
daftykinsso in the chroot terminal, you may need to force some DNS server IPs by overwriting /etc/resolv.conf00:07
daftykinsit'll need to contain at least "nameserver x.x.x.x" where those X's are either your router IP, or just pick something like google's with 8.8.8.800:08
Krenairthat apparently doesn't exist, creating00:08
Krenairyay, apt-get update runs now00:08
daftykinsexcellent00:08
daftykinsnow try a "sudo apt-get -f install"00:09
Krenairit said run dpkg --configure -a00:09
Krenairwhich appears to be completing the install00:09
daftykins:)00:09
KrenairMight this fix the issue with initramfs?00:09
daftykinsit may00:10
Krenairgreat00:10
Krenairthanks for all your help so far daftykins00:10
Krenair(especially at this ridiculous hour)00:10
daftykins:) my pleasure00:10
daftykinsi'm often on the nightowl shift00:11
Krenairugh. lots of dependency issues00:11
Krenairit's leaving lots of thing unconfigured00:11
Krenairand halts processing after too many...00:12
daftykinsis it still going or completed?00:12
Krenairit stopped00:12
Krenairtoo many errors00:12
daftykinserk, perhaps it's in a significantly broken state neither in the prior OS nor in the new00:13
daftykinsstuck in limbo00:13
KrenairI'll try apt-get -f install now00:13
Krenairwhich appears to be setting up a lot of stuff, not many errors00:15
Krenairmaybe it'll even resolve some issues the other command was having00:15
daftykinscould be, apt-get doing the install is kinda the daddy to dpkg as the child in some ways00:16
daftykinshow's it looking?00:21
Krenairstill running00:21
KrenairIt actually just ran update-initramfs00:21
daftykinsmmm lots to do perhaps00:21
daftykinsooh00:21
KrenairWhich is one of the commands that got me into this mess00:21
daftykinsperhaps configured right now00:22
daftykinsright as in correctly00:22
Krenairah, okay00:22
Krenairso it just finished and listed some errors00:22
daftykinscan you pastebin them?00:22
Krenairone moment00:22
Krenairdaftykins, http://pastebin.com/3WLxCZps00:24
Krenairnot particularly useful00:26
daftykinssec00:27
Krenairalso http://pastebin.com/tCHz90yw00:28
daftykinsrunning it again continue at all?00:30
daftykinsah it is missing /dev/pts00:31
daftykinsthink that can sometimes be an extra step in a chroot00:31
Krenairdo we need that?00:32
daftykinsnot sure00:32
daftykinsapt-get -f install just keep repeating now?00:36
daftykinsor does it attempt to make progress :D00:36
Krenairlooks like it is not making any more changes00:36
daftykinsfrom your pastebins where it says "...but it is not configured yet"00:36
daftykinstry running "dpkg-reconfigure <packagename>" on some of those00:36
Krenair /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: network-manager is broken or not fully installed00:37
daftykinshrmm00:37
daftykinswell that's pretty conclusive00:38
Krenairmy system is broken?00:38
daftykinsjust that package00:38
Krenairwell00:38
Krenairand all the other packages listed00:38
Krenairlike libpam-systemd:amd64 (that looks like a fairly important package, just going by name...)00:39
Krenairaptdaemon00:39
Krenairpulseaudio, ubuntu-system-service, policykit-100:39
daftykinsi presume an attempt of "apt-get install --reinstall network-manager" will just complain about other stuff not working?00:40
Krenairdaftykins, E: Internal Error, No file name for network-manager:amd6400:42
Krenairdaftykins, maybe I should try booting and see what happens?00:44
daftykinssure00:46
daftykinsi think as you pointed out some pretty serious stuff is broken though00:47
Krenairdaftykins, yay, it booted00:56
Krenairand got to the login screen00:56
Krenairsome styling a bit messed up, but meh00:56
daftykinshehe00:56
daftykinssurprising00:57
daftykinsit could probably still do with a lot of sorting out00:57
KrenairI can log in!00:57
KrenairAnd see my files!00:57
daftykinsstep 1: backup time :D00:57
KrenairThank you so much daftykins !00:57
Krenair(but we still have stuff to do.)00:58
daftykinshehe00:58
daftykinsglad i could help00:58
KrenairRunning "sudo dpkg --configure -a" now. "sudo apt-get -f install" next.00:59
daftykinsi'm gonna have to head to bed now01:01
Krenairyay, looks like that fixed everything.01:01
daftykinsoh really :O01:01
Krenairthank you again daftykins01:01
daftykinsexcellent 8)01:01
daftykinsnp! you may repay me by backing up ;)01:02
daftykinsg'night \o01:02
Krenairg'night01:02
mappoh04:17
mappno04:18
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dwatkinsmoin moin08:23
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:18
SuperMat1morning09:23
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brobostigonmorning SuperMatt09:31
Myrtti_D is explaining me his school. Finnish schools don't have houses, so I have to draw from my circle of experience. "Is it like Gryffindor?" :-D09:44
brobostigon:)09:45
Myrtti_"YOU WENT TO HOGWARTS!"09:45
brobostigoni think any little boy or girl would be excited by that.09:45
Myrtti_I didn't realise how the school holidays went either before I read HP's09:46
brobostigonhp's?09:51
MartijnVdSharry potter09:53
brobostigonyes, sorry. brain fail. brian still half asleep09:54
brobostigonbrain*09:55
bashrcmorning10:07
brobostigonwhy would two seperate domains, result in, one pointing at /var/www and the other pointing at /var/www/wordpress and both resulting in the same page coming up.?12:44
penguin42because you've accidentally overridden the wordpress one with the /var/www one?12:45
brobostigonthe only thing i can think of, is for some reason both domains seem to be pointing at /var/www/wordpress ,12:46
brobostigonthe question is why, where do i look.12:46
penguin42I guess at the site def for the wordpress one?12:46
penguin42but I'm not good at debugging this stuff12:46
brobostigondef ?12:46
penguin42the thing in apach2/sites-available?12:47
brobostigonhttp://pastebin.com/bGip14pR12:48
brobostigonthat the one pointing at wordpress.12:50
penguin42and what's the other one you have?12:50
brobostigonthats the only one in there, except for 000-default.conf  default-ssl.conf12:50
penguin42ok, so that's setting DocumentRoot which I think will set it for the whole host12:53
penguin42what do you actually want to do?12:53
brobostigoni want the right domain, pointing at the right place, one pointing at wordpress the other pointing at /var/www12:54
* penguin42 doesn't know how multiple domain names on the same thing work, but I read that as saying that for that port you get that document root, so I don't see how it selects based on the name12:56
brobostigonso i change that documentroot, and theoreticlly it should point at the right place again?13:00
penguin42but I don't understand what you've done for your other domain13:01
brobostigonwith MartijnVdS's help the other day, i setup the virtualdomain, for the domain welltravelledbear.co.uk to point at the wordpress folder.13:02
brobostigoni dont know either, why that wont point at the place.13:03
penguin42http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/vhosts/name-based.html13:05
penguin42so I think you need another one of those virtualhost sections with the other serveralias/servername that you want13:06
brobostigonso i setup another virtualhost to point at /var/www ?13:06
penguin42 'If no matching ServerName or ServerAlias is found in the set of virtual hosts containing the most specific matching IP address and port combination, then the first listed virtual host that matches that will be used.'13:06
penguin42yeh I think so13:06
brobostigonok,13:07
penguin42because my reading of that page is that if you don't have a servername/alias match then it just picks the 1st one13:08
brobostigonok,13:08
brobostigonthat seems to have done it.13:13
brobostigonty penguin4213:13
beilbyUbuntu 14.04 please help, I cannot get one user to use a password at logon, user has a password set14:49
penguin42is that just because they have the automatic login set?14:52
beilbyno, automatic login is not set14:53
beilbyto see if that would help I did set automatic login then reboot then remove again and reboot14:53
beilbyaccount was originally created without a password I think, then a password was set from command line, passwd, then was changed using the user settings dialog, we still have a situation where the user does not need to enter a password at desktop logon14:57
KrenairSo last night with the help of daftykins I managed to get my laptop back to a usable state. Now I've noticed some minor issues:15:22
KrenairWhen I lock the computer and then go back on, I get two login screens, one after the other15:22
KrenairOn the main signon screen there is a white patch around where the user name and password input are15:23
KrenairThere is a similar white patch on the calendar around the alternative (non-local) clocks15:23
SuperEngineerI still use 12.04.  Would I be correct in assuming it's ok to also install 14.04 to spare partition?15:28
SuperEngineer switch back to 12.04 & reinstal Grub from 12.04 to correct the order of things in grub selection & also be able select 14.04 [to give it a better try than just using live dvd]?15:28
SuperEngineer[yeah gads - that was a long winded question!]15:30
penguin42yeh that should work15:35
beilbystill have the issue15:36
penguin42SuperEngineer: just be careful you know exactly which disk you're installing to15:36
SuperEngineerpenguin42: will do ;)15:39
popeypenguin42: no crash yet with upstream 3.1415:43
penguin42popey: Promising - then you just have to apply the internal blame resolution operator15:44
popey15:45
* SuperEngineer ponders on whether the release of 12.04 was 2 weeks too early... 15:47
SuperEngineerIf they'd just waited until after the my op... I could have done as sooo much bug hunting!15:47
SuperEngineer[or have been sooo much of a pain in backside for reporting duplicates]  ;)15:48
popey12.04?15:48
popeyi keep mistyping 14.04 as 12.0415:48
beilbywhat is the best thing to do with this user login without password issue?15:49
SuperEngineerpopey: correct - I do appear to be suffering the same 12.04 / 14.04 temptation.. is this a bug???15:50
SuperEngineerbug: CRITICAL  no auto catch in 12.04 when meaning to type 14.04 or vice versa15:51
popeyhttp://launchpad.net/popey file a bug ☻15:51
SuperEngineer;)15:51
penguin42SuperEngineer: file it against dwim15:51
KrenairAlso all of gedit's menus are disabled15:52
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beilbyokay will submit as a bug16:01
SuperEngineerbug #131590216:14
lubotu3bug 1315902 in popey "Ubuntu 14.04 released before *I* got to test it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131590216:14
* SuperEngineer slaps wrist16:15
beilbynot sure if anyone is or has talked to me but have logged bug Bug 131590116:27
lubotu3bug 1315901 in popey "Problem, it is not possible to log onto Ubuntu 14.04 i386 desktop using a password using a specific account. My understanding is that an account created without a password, later a password was created using passwd, subsequently the password was changed using the "user accounts" dialog. Also tried turning on automatic login, rebooting, turning automatic login off again and rebooting." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13116:27
shaunobeilby: what does passwd --status thatuser say ?16:32
beilbyP 05/04/2014 0 99999 7 -116:33
shaunohm, so it's not locked.  odd16:34
penguin42beilby: Tried logging in on the text console?16:38
beilbyno16:38
daftykinswhat does that user's /etc/passwd entry look like?16:38
beilbywe get asked for password when installing packages etc.16:39
SuperEngineerbeilby: I think you have just looged your bug against popey!  Try looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs16:39
beilbyused the link in IRC text16:40
Myrtti_who was it who had the ubuntu spicecollecton hot or not, AlanBell_ ?16:43
beilbylogging into the text console works with current password, does not work with a simple carriage return, I get to text console with CTRL,ALT,F2... is that correct?16:44
penguin42yep16:45
penguin42beilby: OK, so I think you're saying you can login to the text console, but not through the GUI?16:45
beilbyI can login at the GUI without a password using enter key or mouse click16:46
beilbyI can login to both, text console requires password GUI does not require password, would like password protection16:47
penguin42nod16:47
beilbypasswd is hashed (/usr/bin/passwd)16:48
penguin42we know that there is a password since that's what the text login is doing16:48
beilbyindeed16:48
penguin42so it's only the lightdm config I guess that can autologin stuff?16:49
beilbybig security issue, the GUI does not require it to give access16:49
penguin42right, but it's something that you're allowed to enable like that16:49
beilbyso need to disable16:50
penguin42beilby: Can you cehck /etc/lightdm16:50
beilbyfrom command line?16:50
penguin42beilby: I've got a /etc/lightdm/users.conf   with [UserAccounts] section showing minnimum-uid, hidden-users and hidden-shells16:50
penguin42beilby: Yeh command line, are there any other files in /etc/lightdm or any other items in users.conf ?16:51
* SuperEngineer logs off to instal 14.04 on spare partition16:51
beilbylightdm.conf  users.conf16:52
penguin42beilby: Right, do you have an /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf - when I turned on auto login it added an entry to lightdm.conf16:52
penguin42beilby: You should find it says autologin-user=youruser16:52
penguin42beilby: so just to confirm as well, if you go to system settings, user accounts, select the user with the problem what does the 'Automatic Login' thing show?16:53
beilbyhow do I display contents of lightdm.conf16:53
penguin42cat lightdm.conf16:53
beilbyautomatic login off in system settings16:53
penguin42ok, what does that lightdm.conf look like16:54
beilby[SeatDefaults] autologin-user=16:54
beilbyjust those 2 lines16:55
* penguin42 is out of ideas - since that's where it seems to put users with autologins16:57
beilbyauto ogin is disabled, this user does not autologin16:58
beilbyyou have to login manually16:58
penguin42oh hmm, so you have to login manually - but it just works with a return?16:59
beilbythats right yes16:59
penguin42oh hmm16:59
beilbywhere is that setting? seems strange given there is a password associated17:00
penguin42I didn't know what you're seeing is possible17:00
beilbywould you agree it is a security issue then?17:00
penguin42beilby: On your system yes, but it's not obvious to me what's wrong on your system yet17:01
* penguin42 will be back in ~20mins - I have a crumble to crumble17:01
beilbysorry, I am no expert on Linux thanks for your help17:02
penguin42beilby: OK, how many users do you have on this system?17:25
beilby2 users17:35
beilbyactually logged in as affected user atm17:36
penguin42beilby: OK, and the two users, do they have similar usernames - it's not like one is a shorter version of the other or anything like that?  and the user with the problem, is the password 'normal' - i.e. no weird characters or anything?17:37
beilbyno nothing like that17:37
penguin42ok17:38
penguin42beilby: So after you login as this user without the passowrd, I'd take a copy of /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log    you should see something like    Authentication complete for user  whatever  with return code 0        starting session ubuntu17:40
penguin42beilby: I'd check you are seeing that - there are a lot of other messages as well - that file is the one that has a lot of the login debug17:41
beilbygetting cat: x-0-greeter.log: Permission denied17:42
beilbygot it with sudo17:43
beilbyyes I see Authentication complete for user  whatever  with return code 017:45
beilbyalso seeing Starting session ubuntu quite a few lines lower17:47
penguin42beilby: OK, I think you need to file your bug by running the command     ubuntu-bug unity-greeter17:48
brobostigonstargate, ch5, :)17:49
beilbywhat should I put under further information?17:52
penguin42beilby: You'd describe everything17:53
beilbycopy this transcript then?17:53
penguin42beilby: Things like the way you need the password for a text login, the information about how it didn't originally have a password, then you set it, the contents of those /etc/lightdm files that we looked at before17:53
penguin42beilby: can do - but don't miss anything out17:54
penguin42beilby: Be clear about what works and what doesn't17:55
beilbyhow about this17:59
beilbytwo users on this system, other user works as exprcted. Other user does not, my understanding is that the faulty user was originally set without a password. Later a password was set with passwd, from this point onwards logging on to text console worked as expected with a password but logging on to GUI did not require a password simply pressing enter key was sufficient to logon17:59
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penguin42beilby: Put the important stuff first - the important stuff is that you can login with just the enter key on the gui, then make sure to note that it's only the gui18:02
beilbydraft 218:04
beilbyFirstly I can logon with the affected account simply by pressing the enter key but only on the GUI. There are two users on this system, one user works as expected. Other user does not, my understanding is that the faulty user was originally set without a password. Later a password was set with passwd, from this point onwards logging on to text console worked as expected with a password but logging on to GUI did not require a password simply pre18:04
beilbyssing enter key was sufficient to logon. Beyond this the password has been changed using the user settings dialog, also, automatic login has been enabled and enacted then removed again to no avail.18:04
penguin42yeh go for it18:05
beilbyticking  This bug is a security vulnerability?18:05
penguin42beilby: Not sure - we don't know what's actually wrong on your machine18:07
beilbyOK done, my new bug is 131591918:10
beilbywhat do I do about bug 131590118:10
lubotu3bug 1315901 in popey "Problem, it is not possible to log onto Ubuntu 14.04 i386 desktop using a password using a specific account. My understanding is that an account created without a password, later a password was created using passwd, subsequently the password was changed using the "user accounts" dialog. Also tried turning on automatic login, rebooting, turning automatic login off again and rebooting." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13118:10
penguin42are you sure it's 919 - I don't see it18:11
penguin42oh, did you mark it security?18:11
beilbyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/131591918:12
lubotu3Error: launchpad bug 1315919 not found18:12
beilbyuser has password but GUI gives access to system without a password Edit    Ubuntu    “unity-greeter” package    Bugs    Bug #131591918:13
lubotu3Error: Launchpad bug 1315919 could not be found18:13
penguin42beilby: Yeh it's hiding that one - I think because you set security on it, the security guys will look at it18:14
beilbyyes I think so18:14
beilbywhat do I do about bug 1315901?18:14
lubotu3bug 1315901 in popey "Problem, it is not possible to log onto Ubuntu 14.04 i386 desktop using a password using a specific account. My understanding is that an account created without a password, later a password was created using passwd, subsequently the password was changed using the "user accounts" dialog. Also tried turning on automatic login, rebooting, turning automatic login off again and rebooting." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13118:14
beilbydo I need to change information type on 919?18:15
penguin42you should be able to close it18:15
* penguin42 goes to consume crumble18:16
beilbynot seeing that option18:16
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beilbyhow do I close bug 1315901? created in error18:30
lubotu3bug 1315901 in popey "Problem, it is not possible to log onto Ubuntu 14.04 i386 desktop using a password using a specific account. My understanding is that an account created without a password, later a password was created using passwd, subsequently the password was changed using the "user accounts" dialog. Also tried turning on automatic login, rebooting, turning automatic login off again and rebooting." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13118:30
penguin42beilby: I've closed it for you18:41
beilbyThank you for all your help18:41
beilbymy preference is rhubarb18:41
daftykinsnoooo, apple!18:46
* penguin42 burps apple crumble18:49
penguin42twas good18:49
daftykins:D18:49
daftykinsso where's mine?18:49
dwatkinsI had it.18:49
daftykinswith hot custard i hope18:49
daftykinsugh i pop out for 5 mins and dwatkins swoops in :(18:49
dwatkinsNo, squirty cream.18:50
daftykinsthat's infinitely inferior18:50
* penguin42 had his crumble neat18:51
daftykins:o18:52
dwatkinsI hope there's lactose free custard.18:55
daftykinsnope.19:03
daftykinsshould i call an ambulance?19:03
daftykinsaaah finally able to add more data to my array now that it's happy19:04
dwatkinsIt's fine, normal milk just makes me fart a lot.19:04
* penguin42 flicks the lighter19:05
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/1lm0b70y2ikmiqv/array.png19:06
daftykinsoops.19:06
penguin42daftykins: You need a pile of 2TB drives19:07
daftykinsi ordered some ;)19:11
Azelphurwhat's the easiest way to move contacts from an iPhone to Android?20:41
maps|wrkgah regular expressions confuse me21:05
daftykinsAzelphur: i think a mate bought an app when he upgraded ;)21:14
daftykinsmaybe that was more a Windows prog21:15
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maps|wrkwindows eh21:16
shaunothere's an app "my contacts backup" that'll export to vcf (yeah it's third-party, but it's free if you've got less than 500 contacts - http://mycontactsbackup.globile.biz )21:18
daftykinshttp://i.imgur.com/xcmd355.jpg21:28
daftykinswow.21:29
penguin42that's ....odd21:41
popeypenguin42: 3.14 - still crashed22:05
penguin42popey: hmm, and it's a solid hang - but alt-sysrq works?22:19
ali1234popey: who is responsible for the ubuntu irc logs?22:28
ali1234it would be infinitely easier to use if they were stored by channel/year/month/day instead of year/month/day/channel22:28
ali1234this could even be done with symlinks, thus not breaking existing links22:28
penguin42popey: SO you've got an ssh into this laptop from somewhere else; can you just leave it running a vmstat 1    it should print out a line of stuff every second23:16
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