[01:46] <ShawnR> did TinTin really just ask that?
[01:47] <Nothing_Much> ShawnR: Well in some places there are some people who aren't in FL
[01:47] <Nothing_Much> lol
[01:47] <Nothing_Much> that are in FL channels
[01:48] <ShawnR> i suppose, but you would assume at least the majority were from FL
[01:48] <Nothing_Much> yeah
[01:48] <ShawnR> so i'm not wanting to go through as much trouble as having a bootable ZFS system
[01:48] <ShawnR> but i would LOVE to be able to setup my home dir as ZFS and back it up to a server with same file system...
[01:49] <ShawnR> is that complicating things too much?
[01:49] <ShawnR> or would i just be better off rsyncing my home folder to a ZFS store on the network?
[01:49] <Nothing_Much> wut
[01:49] <Nothing_Much> o.O
[02:08] <ShawnR> lol... i'm doing too much thinking
[02:09] <ShawnR> i had an issue with bit rot in the past... but it was actually more to do with bad IDE cables (back when rounded IDE were the new thing, I bought cheap ones)
[02:09] <Nothing_Much> oh my
[02:09] <ShawnR> but I like the features of ZFS for storing my backups
[02:09] <Nothing_Much> ZFS is Oracle only right?
[02:10] <ShawnR> yeah... it was my 2-3 GB of mp3s downloaded from audiogalaxy (when it was a website and you had a "helper" program) and napster... on a 28.8k connection :/
[02:10] <ShawnR> well, it is mostly on solaris... but it is also on other platforms
[02:10] <Nothing_Much> Ah
[02:10] <ShawnR> mostly freebsd, freenas, etc
[02:10] <ShawnR> but also you can get it for ubuntu and other distros
[02:10] <Nothing_Much> interesting
[02:10] <Nothing_Much> I'm wondering if Ubuntu will adopt other fs's
[02:10] <ShawnR> it handles quite a bit diff than most of them
[02:11] <Nothing_Much> I heard that Brtfs was better than ext4 since it's newer and performs better
[02:11] <ShawnR> btrfs is supposed to be just as good as zfs once it gets stable
[02:11] <Nothing_Much> oh
[02:11] <ShawnR> but still missing too many features or too many features are in beta
[02:11] <ShawnR> google zfs vs btrfs
[02:11] <ShawnR> you'll learn some good stuff
[02:12] <Nothing_Much> *btrfs
[02:12] <Nothing_Much> oh
[02:12] <Nothing_Much> hmm..
[02:12] <Nothing_Much> interesting
[02:13] <Nothing_Much> phoronix's benchmarks are mostly in favor of ext4
[02:14] <Nothing_Much> but sometimes ZFS would win over BTRFS and EXT4
[02:21] <ShawnR> benchmarks?
[02:21] <ShawnR> you're only comparing speeds, right?
[02:22] <ShawnR> for backups, you don't want to wait for forever, but bit-insurance > speed IMO
[02:22] <ShawnR> if you want speed, you give up error correction effectiveness
[02:23] <ShawnR> ZFS on a machine with ECC RAM is a good way to ensure your data will not corrupt (as best as you can possibly try)
[02:23] <Nothing_Much> oh
[13:34] <munz> Solid10ftswell
[13:34] <munz> olid10ftswell
[13:34] <munz> olid10ftswell
[13:35] <munz> Solid10ftswell
[13:36] <mhall119> ya don't say
[13:36]  * mhall119 hopes that wasn't a password
[22:15] <balloons> jury duty tomorrow! Joyous fun!
[22:15] <Nothing_Much> balloons: o.O
[22:17] <balloons> Nothing_Much, yep, first time for me. Seems funny, as soon as you transfer to a new county you are called
[22:17] <Nothing_Much> county?
[22:17] <Nothing_Much> oh