| mpeaton | just installed 14.04, getting an error. | 01:33 |
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| mpeaton | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. | 01:33 |
| mpeaton | sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf | 02:02 |
| mpeaton | fixed it | 02:02 |
| jhenke | hi, I have a problem with the 14.04 ubuntustudio 64bit iso. When I try to boot from it, it ends up in an error "initramfs" no live file system found. I already downloaded the iso twice, once direct, once via torrent. I use the exact same settings to run Xubuntu and it works like a charm, so I rule out problems with the system settings. Are there known prolem with ubuntu studio on uefi systems? | 06:36 |
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| OvenWerk1 | jhenke: I am sorry but I personally have had no problems. So long as you can see the boot screen you "should" be good. | 15:05 |
| jhenke | OvenWerk1 thanks for the reply, but it does not reall help me, could it be that the image is not including some kernel modules other flavours do? | 15:08 |
| OvenWerk1 | My mother board allows me to boot the ISO as either efi or bios style... whichever way you boot is the way it will install. | 15:08 |
| OvenWerk1 | That part is not really any different. | 15:08 |
| jhenke | I tried to run in Hyper-V, which works with Ubuntu and Xubuntu images | 15:08 |
| jhenke | but not with with UbuntuStudio | 15:08 |
| OvenWerk1 | The only difference between the two is that the kernel has one setting changed | 15:09 |
| jhenke | which one? | 15:09 |
| OvenWerk1 | Our ISO is based on xubuntu | 15:10 |
| OvenWerk1 | preempt | 15:10 |
| jhenke | I know, that's why I find it strange that it does not work | 15:10 |
| OvenWerk1 | I did purposely not install the efi on this computer, but I did on my sons... but then his is kubuntu too. | 15:11 |
| OvenWerk1 | Give me a minute and I will boot efi on this machine. | 15:12 |
| jhenke | okay | 15:12 |
| OvenWerk1 | Ok, I am now running in the live session booted from the uefi boot | 15:15 |
| OvenWerk1 | So I am assuming you got to the grub screen anyway. | 15:15 |
| jhenke | hmm okay that narrows it down to a possible problem with the hypervisor | 15:15 |
| jhenke | yes I get the selection for live session or installing | 15:15 |
| jhenke | but either choice leads to the mentioned (initramfs): no live file system found problem | 15:16 |
| OvenWerk1 | Personally I always choose live session even when installing | 15:16 |
| OvenWerk1 | So I am no help then. | 15:16 |
| OvenWerk1 | The other way of putting studio on is to install xubuntu and install ubuntustudio-installer and go from there | 15:17 |
| jhenke | not really a solution, if possible I would like to make it work, also for others that are trying the same thing | 15:20 |
| OvenWerk1 | Makes good sense | 15:20 |
| jhenke | I am somehow tempted to think some required kernel module is missing in the studio image | 15:21 |
| jhenke | for this use case | 15:22 |
| OvenWerk1 | Are using a real DVD? or a memstick? | 15:22 |
| * OvenWerk1 hasn't made a dvd for ages | 15:23 | |
| jhenke | as it is a VM, I boot straight off the iso file | 15:23 |
| OvenWerk1 | OK. I haven't tried any of those. | 15:24 |
| jhenke | but I made sure the file is not damged, downloaded it again via torrent after the prolbem appeared | 15:24 |
| OvenWerk1 | Checking the md5sum should be enough | 15:24 |
| jhenke | well the torent did that | 15:25 |
| OvenWerk1 | Ya, I use zsync for the same reason | 15:26 |
| jhenke | I rule out file corrpution for that reason | 15:26 |
| OvenWerk1 | So grub boots, then starts the kernel running, and the kernel then mounts the ISO and grabs the initramfs and mounts it as a memdrive. It sounds like the kernel is looking for the ISO image in the wrong place. | 15:29 |
| jhenke | or it cannot access the image for some reasons | 15:30 |
| OvenWerk1 | Ya | 15:30 |
| OvenWerk1 | I am sorry but you are out of my knowlage area. You need someone with better vm understanding. | 15:34 |
| jhenke | which comes back to my original idea, is studio including all kernel modules the other falvours do? | 15:34 |
| OvenWerk1 | As far as I know yes, even the non-free stuff like vnidia. zequence would be the person to ask though. as he does that kernel. | 15:35 |
| OvenWerk1 | (can't spell right... nvidia) | 15:36 |
| OvenWerk1 | I don't think it is the kernel, I think it may be the way that grub creates the commandline. | 15:37 |
| jhenke | okay, I am just needing the hyper-v modules | 15:37 |
| jhenke | well it is strange that I do see the boot screen (plymoth) but then end up in the error | 15:37 |
| jhenke | so I do not even have a terminal to check dmesg | 15:38 |
| OvenWerk1 | plymouth is not loaded till after the initramfs as far as I know. | 15:38 |
| OvenWerk1 | I think it is on that filesystem | 15:39 |
| jhenke | I did see the studio image though, but could also be that my memory playes tricks and it was before grub | 15:39 |
| OvenWerk1 | As soon as you see that screen you should be able to hit esc and bump out of plymouth to consol | 15:40 |
| OvenWerk1 | When I booted efi I had no image at all before grubs boot screen | 15:41 |
| OvenWerk1 | When I boot non-efi there is a boot image, but that is not grb. | 15:41 |
| jhenke | UEFI is a bit special in the grpahics I know | 15:42 |
| OvenWerk1 | non-efi uses syslinux to start. | 15:43 |
| jhenke | I just try it again | 15:43 |
| jhenke | okay so I am in grub | 15:44 |
| OvenWerk1 | Have you tried starting with nomodesset? ( | 15:44 |
| jhenke | trying live session now | 15:44 |
| OvenWerk1 | F6 I think | 15:44 |
| OvenWerk1 | Well I don't know on the efi grub | 15:45 |
| jhenke | okay long balck screen now the studio boot logo | 15:45 |
| jhenke | takes a long time | 15:46 |
| OvenWerk1 | I was going to say that was normal, but I am used to starting from a slow memstick | 15:46 |
| OvenWerk1 | How much memory do you assign to the VM session? | 15:47 |
| OvenWerk1 | If you have got the studio spinning logo then I don't think nomodeset will help. | 15:50 |
| jhenke | intially, just now 512MB yesterday 1024MB, but it should be able to allocate up to 4GB | 15:50 |
| jhenke | the VM has balloning, i.e. the vm can get more memory from the host on request | 15:51 |
| OvenWerk1 | I am just guessing in the dark :) | 15:51 |
| jhenke | I am getting this: https://www.taujhe.de/images/UbuntuStudio_error.png | 15:53 |
| jhenke | and it takes unusally long until it get's there | 15:55 |
| OvenWerk1 | So initramfs in loading fine, then tries to mount the filesystem in memory and that appears to fail so when it looks for it to swroot, it is not there. | 15:55 |
| jhenke | I am also not getting any console there | 15:56 |
| jhenke | it seems completely locked | 15:56 |
| jhenke | CTRL+ALT+Fx does not bring any luck :( | 15:56 |
| OvenWerk1 | In the old days that would be a kernel panic. | 15:57 |
| jhenke | sadly I cannot access the kernel log either... :( | 15:57 |
| OvenWerk1 | As soon as the spinning logo shows, if you hit esc you should get logging to screen. | 15:59 |
| OvenWerk1 | It may not be very informative logging :( but some. | 15:59 |
| jhenke | I think that did not work, but I try again | 15:59 |
| jhenke | does not work | 16:00 |
| OvenWerk1 | does VM allow you to examine the running system from outside at all? Like look at what it has mounted or mountable? | 16:00 |
| jhenke | no, I really get the feeling that the Hyper-V kernel modules are not laoded | 16:01 |
| jhenke | (which includes the lack of keyboard input, as you need a kernel module for that under UEFI) | 16:01 |
| jhenke | you are using 3.13 for trusty, right? | 16:02 |
| OvenWerk1 | uname -a | 16:03 |
| OvenWerk1 | Linux music 3.13.0-24-lowlatency #46-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 10 19:40:23 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 16:03 |
| jhenke | hmm | 16:04 |
| OvenWerk1 | a search for "hyper" on /lib/modules/ gives:/lib/modules/3.13.0-24-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/video/hyperv_fb.ko | 16:07 |
| OvenWerk1 | /lib/modules/3.13.0-24-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-hyperv.ko | 16:07 |
| OvenWerk1 | /lib/modules/3.13.0-24-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/input/serio/hyperv-keyboard.ko | 16:07 |
| jhenke | okay, the question now, are they included in the live image and also loaded correctly | 16:08 |
| OvenWerk1 | there is also a hyperv folder with a net driver in it | 16:08 |
| jhenke | yeah that seems to be correct | 16:08 |
| OvenWerk1 | Ok, I am at my time limit I have to play some music this morning so I have to go. | 16:09 |
| jhenke | OvenWerk1 okay, thanks for your answers | 16:10 |
| OvenWerk1 | sorry they were not more helpful | 16:10 |
| jhenke | and your time, have fun with the musci tommorw | 16:10 |
| jhenke | don't worry I know it is a specific problem | 16:11 |
| jhenke | maybe somebody else here has an idea, I keep ideling here, so any ideas are appreciated | 16:12 |
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| rhizo | Hi folks | 21:12 |
| dreamy_ | is this a musicians room? | 21:53 |
| shostak | No idea, I'm a musician at least. | 21:55 |
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