[01:33] <mpeaton> just installed 14.04, getting an error.
[01:33] <mpeaton> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[02:02] <mpeaton> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[02:02] <mpeaton>  fixed it
[06:36] <jhenke> hi, I have a problem with the 14.04 ubuntustudio 64bit iso. When I try to boot from it, it ends up in an error "initramfs" no live file system found. I already downloaded the iso twice, once direct, once via torrent. I use the exact same settings to run Xubuntu and it works like a charm, so I rule out problems with the system settings. Are there known prolem with ubuntu studio on uefi systems?
[15:05] <OvenWerk1> jhenke: I am sorry but I personally have had no problems. So long as you can see the boot screen you "should" be good.
[15:08] <jhenke> OvenWerk1 thanks for the reply, but it does not reall help me, could it be that the image is not including some kernel modules other flavours do?
[15:08] <OvenWerk1> My mother board allows me to boot the ISO as either efi or bios style... whichever way you boot is the way it will install.
[15:08] <OvenWerk1> That part is not really any different.
[15:08] <jhenke> I tried to run in Hyper-V, which works with Ubuntu and Xubuntu images
[15:08] <jhenke> but not with with UbuntuStudio
[15:09] <OvenWerk1> The only difference between the two is that the kernel has one setting changed
[15:09] <jhenke> which one?
[15:10] <OvenWerk1> Our ISO is based on xubuntu
[15:10] <OvenWerk1> preempt
[15:10] <jhenke> I know, that's why I find it strange that it does not work
[15:11] <OvenWerk1> I did purposely not install the efi on this computer, but I did on my sons... but then his is kubuntu too.
[15:12] <OvenWerk1> Give me a minute and I will boot efi on this machine.
[15:12] <jhenke> okay
[15:15] <OvenWerk1> Ok, I am now running in the live session booted from the uefi boot
[15:15] <OvenWerk1> So I am assuming you got to the grub screen anyway.
[15:15] <jhenke> hmm okay that narrows it down to a possible problem with the hypervisor
[15:15] <jhenke> yes I get the selection for live session or installing
[15:16] <jhenke> but either choice leads to the mentioned (initramfs): no live file system found problem
[15:16] <OvenWerk1> Personally I always choose live session even when installing
[15:16] <OvenWerk1> So I am no help then.
[15:17] <OvenWerk1> The other way of putting studio on is to install xubuntu and install ubuntustudio-installer and go from there
[15:20] <jhenke> not really a solution, if possible I would like to make it work, also for others that are trying the same thing
[15:20] <OvenWerk1> Makes good sense
[15:21] <jhenke> I am somehow tempted to think some required kernel module is missing in the studio image
[15:22] <jhenke> for this use case
[15:22] <OvenWerk1> Are using a real DVD? or a memstick?
[15:23]  * OvenWerk1 hasn't made a dvd for ages
[15:23] <jhenke> as it is a VM, I boot straight off the iso file
[15:24] <OvenWerk1> OK. I haven't tried any of those.
[15:24] <jhenke> but I made sure the file is not damged, downloaded it again via torrent after the prolbem appeared
[15:24] <OvenWerk1> Checking the md5sum should be enough
[15:25] <jhenke> well the torent did that
[15:26] <OvenWerk1> Ya, I use zsync for the same reason
[15:26] <jhenke> I rule out file corrpution for that reason
[15:29] <OvenWerk1> So grub boots, then starts the kernel running, and the kernel then mounts the ISO and grabs the initramfs and mounts it as a memdrive. It sounds like the kernel is looking for the ISO image in the wrong place.
[15:30] <jhenke> or it cannot access the image for some reasons
[15:30] <OvenWerk1> Ya
[15:34] <OvenWerk1> I am sorry but you are out of my knowlage area. You need someone with better vm understanding.
[15:34] <jhenke> which comes back to my original idea, is studio including all kernel modules the other falvours do?
[15:35] <OvenWerk1> As far as I know yes, even the non-free stuff like vnidia. zequence would be the person to ask though. as he does that kernel.
[15:36] <OvenWerk1> (can't spell right... nvidia)
[15:37] <OvenWerk1> I don't think it is the kernel, I think it may be the way that grub creates the commandline.
[15:37] <jhenke> okay, I am just needing the hyper-v modules
[15:37] <jhenke> well it is strange that I do see the boot screen (plymoth) but then end up in the error
[15:38] <jhenke> so I do not even have a terminal to check dmesg
[15:38] <OvenWerk1> plymouth is not loaded till after the initramfs as far as I know.
[15:39] <OvenWerk1> I think it is on that filesystem
[15:39] <jhenke> I did see the studio image though, but could also be that my memory playes tricks and it was before grub
[15:40] <OvenWerk1> As soon as you see that screen you should be able to hit esc and bump out of plymouth to consol
[15:41] <OvenWerk1> When I booted efi I had no image at all before grubs boot screen
[15:41] <OvenWerk1> When I boot non-efi there is a boot image, but that is not grb.
[15:42] <jhenke> UEFI is a bit special in the grpahics I know
[15:43] <OvenWerk1> non-efi uses syslinux to start.
[15:43] <jhenke> I just try it again
[15:44] <jhenke> okay so I am in grub
[15:44] <OvenWerk1> Have you tried starting with nomodesset? (
[15:44] <jhenke> trying live session now
[15:44] <OvenWerk1> F6 I think
[15:45] <OvenWerk1> Well I don't know on the efi grub
[15:45] <jhenke> okay long balck screen now the studio boot logo
[15:46] <jhenke> takes a long time
[15:46] <OvenWerk1> I was going to say that was normal, but I am used to starting from a slow memstick
[15:47] <OvenWerk1> How much memory do you assign to the VM session?
[15:50] <OvenWerk1> If you have got the studio spinning logo then I don't think nomodeset will help.
[15:50] <jhenke> intially, just now 512MB yesterday 1024MB, but it should be able to allocate up to 4GB
[15:51] <jhenke> the VM has balloning, i.e. the vm can get more memory from the host on request
[15:51] <OvenWerk1> I am just guessing in the dark :)
[15:53] <jhenke> I am getting this: https://www.taujhe.de/images/UbuntuStudio_error.png
[15:55] <jhenke> and it takes unusally long until it get's there
[15:55] <OvenWerk1> So initramfs in loading fine, then tries to mount the filesystem in memory and that appears to fail so when it looks for it to swroot, it is not there.
[15:56] <jhenke> I am also not getting any console there
[15:56] <jhenke> it seems completely locked
[15:56] <jhenke> CTRL+ALT+Fx does not bring any luck :(
[15:57] <OvenWerk1> In the old days that would be a kernel panic.
[15:57] <jhenke> sadly I cannot access the kernel log either... :(
[15:59] <OvenWerk1> As soon as the spinning logo shows, if you hit esc you should get logging to screen.
[15:59] <OvenWerk1> It may not be very informative logging :( but some.
[15:59] <jhenke> I think that did not work, but I try again
[16:00] <jhenke> does not work
[16:00] <OvenWerk1> does VM allow you to examine the running system from outside at all? Like look at what it has mounted or mountable?
[16:01] <jhenke> no, I really get the feeling that the Hyper-V kernel modules are not laoded
[16:01] <jhenke> (which includes the lack of keyboard input, as you need a kernel module for that under UEFI)
[16:02] <jhenke> you are using 3.13 for trusty, right?
[16:03] <OvenWerk1> uname -a
[16:03] <OvenWerk1> Linux music 3.13.0-24-lowlatency #46-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 10 19:40:23 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:04] <jhenke> hmm
[16:07] <OvenWerk1> a search for "hyper" on /lib/modules/ gives:/lib/modules/3.13.0-24-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/video/hyperv_fb.ko
[16:07] <OvenWerk1> /lib/modules/3.13.0-24-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-hyperv.ko
[16:07] <OvenWerk1> /lib/modules/3.13.0-24-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/input/serio/hyperv-keyboard.ko
[16:08] <jhenke> okay, the question now, are they included in the live image and also loaded correctly
[16:08] <OvenWerk1> there is also a hyperv folder with a net driver in it
[16:08] <jhenke> yeah that seems to be correct
[16:09] <OvenWerk1> Ok, I am at my time limit I have to play some music this morning so I have to go.
[16:10] <jhenke> OvenWerk1 okay, thanks for your answers
[16:10] <OvenWerk1> sorry they were not more helpful
[16:10] <jhenke> and your time, have fun with the musci tommorw
[16:11] <jhenke> don't worry I know it is a specific problem
[16:12] <jhenke> maybe somebody else here has an idea, I keep ideling here, so any ideas are appreciated
[21:12] <rhizo> Hi folks
[21:53] <dreamy_> is this a musicians room?
[21:55] <shostak> No idea, I'm a musician at least.