DarkwingSo, I gave up my Chromebook for a real system again. 00:01
valorieyou can't make it into a real system?00:02
DarkwingIt was the ARM version and there were some major issues with configuration00:02
DarkwingSo I figured a thinkpad would be better00:03
valorieso picky00:03
valoriemuch web00:03
valorieso cloud00:03
DarkwingLol 00:03
valoriewhat's that00:04
valorieI hear a lot of good stuff about thinkpads00:04
valoriemarkey in particular should do sales for them00:04
DarkwingYeah... Works out of box. Even the fancy ones00:04
valoriemy hp pavilion is still going strong00:05
DarkwingX1 Carbon. 00:06
valorieI bought this used from my son so he could afford a newer gaming laptop00:06
valorienow he's wanting the latest new....00:07
valoriewhat a nut00:07
valorieSysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Running inside KDE 4.13.0 on Ubuntu 14.04, Trusty Tahr powered by Linux 3.13.0-24-generic, CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II P960 Quad-Core Processor at 800-1800/1800 MHz, RAM: 5538/5712 MB, Storage: 285/528 GB, 228 procs, 165.6h up00:09
DarkwingI'm running Unity still00:10
valoriedo you like it?00:10
DarkwingYeah, I actually do00:11
valorieI am not their target audience00:11
DarkwingYeah... 00:12
valoriebut really, software is not religion00:14
valorieuse what works for you00:14
valoriework with the people you enjoy00:14
valorielife can be enjoyable00:15
valorieyou don't always realize the contributions you are making, anyway00:18
DarkwingI'm heading back to KDE... 00:18
DarkwingI've missed it too much00:18
valoriethat's wonderful news, Darkwing00:18
valorieI've missed you00:19
valorieand that sentence above was for -cafe, I see00:19
valorieoh well00:19
valorieoff to dinner00:24
kubotu::runtime-bugs:: [1315969] ftp connections via kde apps take extremely long @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1315969 (by Jason Straight)01:19
agateauso I asked for some advice regarding where to file a bug yesterday, but had to leave :/ (sorry BluesKaj)07:34
agateaulets ask again now that I am in front of the laptop for the day07:34
agateaumy freshly upgraded Kubuntu fails to run my libgdx-based game. It crashes after a few seconds with a "intel_do_flush_locked failed Input/Output error" message. Which package should I file a bug against? mesa?07:34
apacheloggeragateau: xserver-xorg-video-intel or mesa07:37
apacheloggerprolly upstreamthough... even though I have no clue what sort of patching actually goes on there ;)07:38
agateauapachelogger: I guess I pick one and the competent people will reassign if neccessary07:38
apacheloggeragateau: yeah, I have no clue where in launchpad that is tracked07:38
apacheloggerupstream it'd be bugs.fdo -> product mesa component intel07:38
agateauapachelogger: ok, will look into this. Thanks.07:39
kubotu::runtime-bugs:: [1089483] package kde-runtime-data 4:4.9.2-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: package kde-runtime-d... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1089483 (by Richel Bilderbeek)08:38
* apachelogger marks that fixed because he can09:06
apacheloggerkubotu: is lunchpad drunk or are you?09:06
jussiboth? 09:08
jussikubotu: order a beer for kubotu09:09
* kubotu slides a beer down the bar to kubotu09:09
jussikubotu: order a beer for apachelogger 09:09
* kubotu slides a beer down the bar to apachelogger09:09
Riddellmitya57: welcome to kubuntu-devel list :)09:11
mitya57Thanks Riddell!09:33
* Riddell spots 4.99.0 in unstable/frameworks09:39
kubotu::runtime-bugs:: [1089483] package kde-runtime-data 4:4.9.2-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: package kde-runtime-d... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1089483 (by Richel Bilderbeek)09:42
shadeslayerRiddell: mitya57 what's up with the Qt mergery?10:10
shadeslayerare we tracking merges somewhere?10:10
shadeslayershoot :/10:16
shadeslayervalorie: I might not be able to make it for the CC meeting, will you be able to attend?10:16
shadeslayeror I reschedule my thing to tomorrow10:16
BluesKajHowdy folks10:21
shadeslayerapachelogger: drinking so early in the morning? :O10:40
apacheloggerjussi suggested it10:40
shadeslayerjussi: are you trying to get apachelogger drunk so early :O10:41
apacheloggerit's monday anyway, so it does not matter10:41
shadeslayerwait what10:41
shadeslayerdrinking on monday's doesn't matter?10:41
apacheloggershadeslayer: can you do verifiction for pam-kwallet?10:41
apacheloggerso we have at least two people who can confirm it nto being broken10:41
shadeslayerapachelogger: sure, lemme finish off kde workspace 4.11.9 first10:41
apacheloggerbug 1314118 bug 1314119 bug 131412010:41
ubottubug 1314118 in pam-kwallet (Ubuntu Trusty) "/usr/sbin/lightdm:6:__libc_message:malloc_printerr:_int_malloc:__GI___libc_malloc:__GI___strdup" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131411810:41
ubottubug 1314119 in pam-kwallet (Ubuntu Trusty) "/usr/sbin/lightdm:11:__GI__IO_fwrite:createNewSalt:kwallet_hash:pam_sm_authenticate:_pam_dispatch_aux" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131411910:41
ubottubug 1314120 in pam-kwallet (Ubuntu Trusty) "/usr/sbin/lightdm:11:__GI__IO_fread:fread:kwallet_hash:pam_sm_authenticate:_pam_dispatch_aux" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131412010:41
shadeslayeroh my :310:42
jussishadeslayer: its not about drunk, its about ballmer peak... :D10:44
shadeslayerpsht, if you're off by even 0.1 ml .....10:44
jussishadeslayer: :D10:44
apacheloggerbetter be accurate then10:45
Riddellshadeslayer: no formal tracking currently, but I'm looking at the qt one from mitya57 and sgclark's work10:45
jussikubotu: order a vodka for apachelogger10:45
* kubotu slides a vodka down the bar to apachelogger10:45
shadeslayerRiddell: ok10:50
shadeslayerapachelogger: bug 1314118 fails11:13
ubottubug 1314118 in pam-kwallet (Ubuntu Trusty) "/usr/sbin/lightdm:6:__libc_message:malloc_printerr:_int_malloc:__GI___libc_malloc:__GI___strdup" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131411811:13
shadeslayerapachelogger: on logging into the user where I made my custom wallet/password , it makes 2 wallets on login11:13
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/05/plasma-desktopJv2749.png11:14
apacheloggershadeslayer: needs to be named kdewallet11:14
shadeslayernot mentioned in the testcase mate :P11:14
apacheloggeryeah, forgot to add it when I did the testrun :P11:14
apacheloggershadeslayer: you'd better check with alex whether that is intended though11:15
apacheloggernot a new behavior though11:15
shadeslayeranyway, apart from that it passes11:15
apacheloggershadeslayer: they all have the same test case btw11:16
apacheloggerthe actual crash causes are somewhat arbitrary11:16
shadeslayercan mark them all as verification done then :P11:16
apacheloggeryou may want to up your actual system though11:16
apacheloggergive it real life testing until promotion to updates pocket11:16
apachelogger(although, I have not had any issues so far ^^)11:17
shadeslayerI'm always running proposed11:18
shadeslayerapachelogger: alex says it's a bug11:23
shadeslayerso I'll report it upstream11:23
shadeslayerapachelogger: verification-done on all 3 bug reports btw11:26
shadeslayerapachelogger: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33437311:31
ubottuKDE bug 334373 in general "PAM module creates a new a 'kdewallet' even though the user deleted it and created a custom wallet" [Normal,Unconfirmed]11:32
shadeslayerincase you want to track it11:32
apacheloggerlooks like the wrong product, I think someone needs to make their project a proper kde playground project or something :P11:32
lordievaderGood afternoon.12:06
Riddellhi lordievader 12:09
lordievaderHey Riddell, how are you doing?12:10
Riddellgetting all excited about the new frameworks release :)12:12
Riddellnow the question is, do we upload this to utopic?12:12
lordievaderKF5 you mean? I should test it some more...12:13
Riddellnot much to test just now but I plen to do a plasma next release at the end of the week12:13
lordievaderOehh fancy :)12:14
Riddellapachelogger: do we have a date yet for the kickoff meeting?12:19
apacheloggerRiddell: I sent a mail I think, please check12:26
apacheloggeror at least I think I sent one ^^12:26
Riddellhi sgclark 12:33
sgclarkRiddell: morning :) there was the lintain attached to that mail with questions, want it as is?12:34
Riddelloh didn't spot questions12:35
Riddellupdate symbols on libqt4-declarative:12:36
sgclarkok thank you12:36
Riddellfor the circular dependency you can work out what in libqt4-declarative depends on libqt4-gui and vice-verse and then we can work out if they need split12:36
Riddellotherwise all good12:37
kubotu::runtime-bugs:: [1316108] What Are Things You Can Do to Slim Down Healthily @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1316108 (by Olivia Ava)12:50
shadeslayerspam :/12:54
kfunkat least the category is correct12:56
apacheloggershadeslayer: ye may want to throw that at #launchpad13:02
kubotu::runtime-bugs:: [1316108] What Are Things You Can Do to Slim Down Healthily @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1316108 (by Olivia Ava)13:53
kubotu::runtime-bugs:: [1316150] Is Slimming Down a Challenge? Find out about Turmeric Benefits @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1316150 (by Olivia Ava)13:53
apacheloggershadeslayer: dude, please tell #launchpad13:54
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1312806] Please update kde-workspace to 4.11.9 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1312806 (by Kubuntu IRC Bot)13:55
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1313193] Missing "$" in /usr/bin/startkde @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1313193 (by Rafael Jesus Alcantara Perez)13:55
apacheloggershadeslayer: did you poke someone with it?14:52
shadeslayer<cjwatson> shadeslayer: Suspended14:53
shadeslayernow send me cookies14:53
apacheloggerkubotu: order cookies, xmas for shadeslayer14:54
* kubotu slides a whole bunch of last year's, now all dry cookies, down the crappy decorated and totally falling apart bar to shadeslayer and shouts: Happy whatever -.-14:54
kubotu::runtime-bugs:: [1089483] package kde-runtime-data 4:4.9.2-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: package kde-runtime-d... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1089483 (by Richel Bilderbeek)14:58
kubotu::runtime-bugs:: [1106271] systemsettings does not start @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1106271 (by piotrekw1)14:58
apacheloggerI really wonder what causes the rss feed bumps of old bugs today15:02
shadeslayerkubotu is being silly today15:09
apacheloggerwell, it only reports what the bug rss feeds say15:10
apacheloggerso something must trigger those old bugs to appear, but i can't find the cause in the bug reports themselves15:11
apacheloggerthe activity log doesn't show anything15:11
shadeslayeranyone want to review http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde/revision/6315:29
Peace-Riddell:  try to install kwin-style-dekorator 15:42
Peace-it says15:42
Peace-he following packages will be REMOVED:15:42
Peace-  kde-plasma-desktop kde-standard kde-window-manager15:42
Peace-and it's not a nice thing 15:42
apacheloggershadeslayer: Package: kdegames15:46
apacheloggerwhy was it arch any15:46
shadeslayer  * Make kdegames arch any and do not depend on packages15:47
shadeslayer    not built on arm15:47
apacheloggersame for kdenetwork15:47
shadeslayersame for kdenetwork15:47
apacheloggershadeslayer: I doubt you can drop that then15:47
apacheloggerunless all deps now build on arm15:48
shadeslayerapachelogger: I checked kdenetwork, all packages it depends on built on arm IIRC15:48
shadeslayerlooking at kdegames15:48
apacheloggershadeslayer: well, FWIW you could just upload, but you definitely would need to watch proposed migration logs15:48
apacheloggerthat's why we excluded stuff, it didn't build and blocked promotion15:48
apacheloggershadeslayer: kdenetwork recommends ends with a comma it seems15:49
shadeslayerapachelogger: comes from debian then15:49
Peace-apachelogger: can you see if installing  kwin-style-dekorator it removes  kde-plasma-desktop ?15:49
apacheloggershadeslayer: fix it anyway plz ;)15:49
shadeslayerpsht http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/utopic/kubrick/utopic/view/head:/debian/control#L2815:50
* shadeslayer will try to fix kubrick15:50
apacheloggerbazaar browser diffs are really shitty to read15:53
apacheloggershadeslayer: does look fine otherwise from what I see15:53
apacheloggershadeslayer: don't forget to build with -vLASTUBUNTUVERSION15:53
apacheloggerPeace-: there was an ABI breakage15:53
* apachelogger wonders why we did not remove dekorator15:54
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Mamarokshadeslayer: yes, we are, to answer your question to me earlier :)16:41
Riddellhi Darkwing 17:05
RiddellDarkwing: so how do we use this kubuntu twitter account?17:05
Riddellso blue http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_4.99.0_trusty.html17:06
Riddellutopic's influence is going far http://www.theguardian.com/politics/shortcuts/2014/may/05/new-currency-independent-scotland-unicorn17:21
Riddellsgclark: how are you getting on with qt?17:34
ovidiu-florinhello world17:37
ovidiu-florinyour married ovidiu-florin is back :D17:37
sgclarkRiddell: running into problems, but I think it is something I did...17:38
apacheloggerovidiu-florin: congratulations!17:38
Riddellovidiu-florin: awooga!17:38
Riddellovidiu-florin: all happyness and love in the florin house?17:38
ovidiu-florinI'm still not fully sober, but I'm mostly ready for action.17:38
ovidiu-florinRiddell: ovidiu-florin is my first name17:39
ovidiu-florinBogdan is my last name17:39
ovidiu-florinthe answer is yes :D17:39
ovidiu-florinthe ring will take some getting use to17:39
ovidiu-florinthank you all17:40
* ovidiu-florin is catching up with the emails17:43
ovidiu-florinthe mumble is in 1 hour?17:43
apacheloggernext week17:44
apacheloggerI gave the wrong url17:44
apacheloggeralas, that's 5th of may anyway, so doesn't matter ^^17:45
apacheloggerpeople talk so little with me on the ML there's now a thread with 4 mails all from me :'<17:47
Riddellapachelogger: where is the meeting?17:47
apacheloggerRiddell: the mumble, although yofel did not confirm yet17:50
ovidiu-florinEtriaph: hello18:18
shadeslayerapachelogger: ack18:18
shadeslayerhi Etriaph18:18
EtriaphHi shadeslayer18:18
apacheloggershadeslayer: what did i say?18:18
apacheloggerI didn't say anything18:18
* apachelogger runs into wall18:18
ovidiu-florinEtriaph: as I've said in the email, the tasks I've mentioned there don't require acess to the server. You can do them on any wordpress instance.18:19
shadeslayerI made apachelogger run into a wall ... muwhahaha18:19
shadeslayerapachelogger: re meta-kde18:19
Etriaphovidiu-florin: I'm aware, I guess I'm looking to see what you have now to put the tasks into context18:19
apacheloggershadeslayer: ah18:19
ovidiu-florinand if you're lucky you can do it even without an WP instance18:19
EtriaphNot the code so much as the site18:19
shadeslayermy internet is so very shitty18:20
shadeslayerprobably as shitty as apachelogger's18:20
apacheloggerI find that hard to believe18:21
Etriaphovidiu-florin: After reading the list of tasks you have yet to complete I'm just trying to visualize what it is you're looking to get done.18:21
ovidiu-florinEtriaph: do you think you can help me with setting up the child theme for Evolve?18:22
ovidiu-florinI've been having difficultied doing that.18:22
ovidiu-florinI can help you get started if you want18:22
ovidiu-florinbut after that you'll have do do some figuring out, since that's the part I've been having trouble with18:23
Etriaphovidiu-florin: I can give it a shot.  What obstacles have you run into with it?18:23
EtriaphAnd are you using community themes or have you rolled your own?18:24
ovidiu-florinEtriaph: When I made the child theme instead of just adding the child's CSS to the parent, it broke the parent.18:24
ovidiu-florinEtriaph: https://wordpress.org/themes/evolve18:24
ovidiu-florinthis one18:24
ovidiu-florinmodified a lot18:24
ovidiu-florinin structure and in layout18:24
ovidiu-florinso, updating it would be a problem18:24
EtriaphOK, do you have a pre-rolled child theme you're trying to integrate with it?18:25
ovidiu-florinNot anymore18:26
EtriaphOr have you tried to create your own?18:26
ovidiu-florinEtriaph: this one offers all that we need and it's under GPL, so there is no need to roll  a new one.18:26
ovidiu-florinit's developers controbute ocasionally with updates, that might be usefull18:27
ovidiu-florinso, a child theme would be the best way to go, IMHO18:27
EtriaphOK, so you are properly trying to ensure that you can update Evolve when necessary without breaking anything18:27
ovidiu-florinEtriaph: I would recommend we try this on a clean WP instance18:28
ovidiu-florinwith a clean version of the theme18:28
ovidiu-florinand if that works, we'll just upload the new child theme18:29
EtriaphI have Apache/PHP/MySQL setup on my desktop here, so I can start from scratch and start playing with it18:29
ovidiu-florinEtriaph: can you start working on this please?18:29
EtriaphYup, I'll give it a go.18:29
EtriaphWhat version of WP are you running?  3.9?18:30
yofelapachelogger: you mean me providing the mumble instance? Sure, can do. Though just running it with a plain config on our server would work just as well18:31
ovidiu-florinEtriaph: always the latest18:33
EtriaphRoger that.  So just to confirm (in the case it may be pertinent) I'll be using Apache 2/PHP 5.3 + MySQL + WordPress 3.9 + Evolve 2.9.218:34
ovidiu-florinEtriaph: currently we have Evolve 2.9.118:36
ovidiu-florinApache/2.2.22 (Debian)18:37
ovidiu-florinPHP 5.4.418:38
ovidiu-florinmysql  Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.5.3518:38
EtriaphOh, I'm on PHP 5.5 apparently18:38
ovidiu-florinit's a debian machine18:38
EtriaphOur versions match closely enough I think we'll be fine18:38
ovidiu-florinpackages are slightly older18:38
EtriaphI'm on Kubuntu 14.0418:39
ovidiu-florinI recommend you work on a Debian VM18:39
EtriaphThat would be more of a feat18:45
shadeslayerI doubt it18:46
EtriaphI mean for me to setup a vm to create a child theme for WordPress; that's kind of overkill. :)18:47
Mamarokovidiu-florin: congratulations :) Careful not to forget your ring on sinks ;)18:59
ovidiu-florinMamarok: thank you. I'll try19:02
Etriaphovidiu-florin: Engaged?19:11
EtriaphOr newly married I take it?19:11
Etriaphovidiu-florin: OK, I do have it working (ie., the caroussel doesn't break); however, it requires you to copy a few folders each time you update Evolve.  It's either that or you hack Evolve itself.19:43
EtriaphAfter reading about the theme, it's complexity makes it difficult to make a child theme out of19:44
EtriaphIt uses constants to define the paths, so everything always points to the child and not the parent by way of media requirements (javascript, css, etc.)19:44
Etriaphovidiu-florin: If you want, I can give you a web address to see the result at.19:48
Riddellhi Etriaph, welcome along20:44
EtriaphHi Riddell, thanks20:44
joseRiddell: today I'm shipping my first DVD request for the cycle in the country: includes a requested Kubuntu DVD20:56
DarkwingRiddell: ping21:00
joseDarkwing: he's been idle since his last message - already 10pm in the uk21:02
Darkwingjose: I was afread of that.21:03
Riddellhi Darkwing 21:10
Riddelljose: what what? why do you get dvd requests?21:10
joseI'm the contact for Ubuntu Peru21:11
DarkwingRiddell: care for a PM?21:11
Riddellsgclark: lots new packages to fix :) http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_4.99.0_trusty.html21:51
sgclarkRiddell: ok, still fighting with cirular depend22:02
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